Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Milling an End Spline to Repair the Crank Handle

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  • Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Milling an End Spline to Repair the Crank Handle
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Комментарии • 185

  • @Barnagh1
    @Barnagh1 Год назад

    All the work involved in making this small part puts me in awe of the original builders of the machine, long before digital readouts and all the modern aids.

  • @lodkathree
    @lodkathree Год назад

    Hello Keith, I love your channel and the learnings that come from it. The reason I am commenting is to request please, please, wear safety glasses when you are using machines like the lathe and belt sander. You are a mentor for many people and it would be best practice to set the best example for everyone. The last thing we all want is a video lamenting a visit to the emergency room. You only get gifted one set of eyes. Thanks again. Cheers Lodkathree.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Год назад

    Cutting pie pieces with squares is surely a challenge but you got it done!

  • @noberet
    @noberet Год назад

    Today is the day we celebrate the machinist.

  • @rw3dog
    @rw3dog Год назад

    Nice work. That is some serious math figuring out the 7 slots and the dividing head etc. Thanks for sharing.

  • @glenc90240
    @glenc90240 Год назад +2

    Gotta love the sander power switch without a cover!

  • @thisolesignguy2733
    @thisolesignguy2733 Год назад

    At first I thought "why not just cut the handle off, weld on the back of it, and weld the handle back on?" or "why not just make a piece the full length and weld the handle on that?" but then towards the end, I saw that that's steel and the handle is cast iron and then I had a
    AH HAH! moment lol. Nice job Keith!

  • @kindablue1959
    @kindablue1959 Год назад +1

    Band-Aid should do a sponsorship of all the machining channels. If they put their logo on the bandages, they'd get screen time in practically ever machining video. 😲

  • @nkelly.9
    @nkelly.9 Год назад +10

    Sir,
    you are an extremely clever and skilled operator.
    Thank you for sharing.

  • @davidapp3730
    @davidapp3730 Год назад +7

    Nice job on the crank handle. These days it would have to have a spring to push it out of engagement for safety. 100 years ago you were responsible for your own safety.

  • @Farm_fab
    @Farm_fab Год назад +5

    Keith, speaking of painting your handle yellow, a teacher who taught at the same school as my mom had lost a contact lens on the floor. My dad, some time later, mentioned to her, that if she had painted the lens red, it might have been easier to find.😁

  • @PhotoArtBrussels
    @PhotoArtBrussels Год назад +1

    As a European it is amazing that people freely chose to work in fractions; 1" 7/8 ... 47.625mm; and at the same time everything around you is decimal.
    But ... why not, it is a free world! :-) Thanks for all the great content!

    • @bw3506
      @bw3506 Год назад +3

      I was discussing with my wife yesterday about how when I was in grade school (Which would be early 70s) They pushed us hard to learn the metric system because we were supposed to convert to it soon but it never happened. She's a few years younger than me and didn't learn it at all. I liked it and thought it was far easier in all aspects. Guess they figured it was too much stuff to change and too many opposed it.

    • @monkeyboy4746
      @monkeyboy4746 Год назад +2

      It's not 1/4 inch, it's 250 thousandths, so we already think in decimal, our inch is our "meter", since they work to the nearest thousandths, they do not have to think in fractions.

    • @ellieprice363
      @ellieprice363 Год назад +1

      Fractions are strange critters if you’re not used to them. Most Americans learned them in the fourth grade so they’re easy for us.

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад +4

      The metric vs imperial discussion is so old and tired. Like 100 years old and tired. When will people understand units don't matter. Any decent machinist should be able to do a job in any unit system. Just get the job done in whatever units you want.

  • @petegraham1458
    @petegraham1458 Год назад +11

    Good lesson on how to make a complex bit of geometry with old school manual machining ! You make it look easy, however I know it takes lots of thinking and time with tables and calculators to get this sorted !

    • @peterhobson3262
      @peterhobson3262 Год назад +1

      The number of engineering hours spent calculating the dividing head circles must have been massive.

  • @passenger6735
    @passenger6735 Год назад

    Painting the really useful tools yellow!
    Sooner or later you have a workshop full of yellow tools, and you're back to square one.
    That was an excellent demonstration of cutting angled splines on the dividing head.

  • @evanharriman5352
    @evanharriman5352 Год назад +6

    Great job as always, Kieth! It’s fun to watch you do so many non-critical “measurements” in one video.

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 Год назад

    The issue with the handle not clearing would drive anyone crazy.
    It's great when you can identify the problem and make a solution.

  • @davidmitchell7791
    @davidmitchell7791 Год назад +5

    That was a hard one to get my head round 😂

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 Год назад +12

    Great job Keith.
    Thanks for sharing the process.
    Can't wait to see the HBM up and running doing the first job.
    Take care, Ed.

  • @josephsawicki9335
    @josephsawicki9335 Год назад +1

    Wow The way you do math on the fly is impressive Thanks for another great video.

  • @Sizukun1
    @Sizukun1 Год назад +2

    A coat of yellow would match those oiler caps! Nothing wrong with making a tool you're always looking for more visible!

  • @RutherfordRyan1
    @RutherfordRyan1 Год назад +3

    Great machine Keith and a good man operating and repairing it.
    How about 4 of these handles around your Lucas…?
    Less wear on each, hang them around all sides.
    Thanks for your website and all your videos

  • @dannyl2598
    @dannyl2598 Год назад +2

    Thank you.

  • @benhancock1408
    @benhancock1408 Год назад +10

    In order to simplify things a bit, I think I would cut the original sleeve and add a piece in the middle. That would retain the splines you already have, and making it a bit longer would give you room to re-cut the splines in the future if you ever need to.

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 Год назад

      I think his end result (deeper engagement) was perfectly served by his technique.. The splines already needed cutting deeper at the outset.

    • @scowell
      @scowell Год назад

      Then I would have missed a dividing head lesson! I think the new teeth are better anyway.

    • @artszabo1015
      @artszabo1015 Год назад

      I personally agree with you but that would require two welds increasing the likelihood of misalignment. So technically I agree with Silas Marner on this one.
      Art from Ohio

    • @Henning_S.
      @Henning_S. Год назад

      But the old splines didn't fit as well, it seems like someone just milled 7 wide slots with parallel sides instead of the slots with 30degrees included angle.

    • @rizdalegend
      @rizdalegend Год назад

      My first thought, but then this channel is about doing things differently with a dash of education.

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 Год назад

    GREAT JOB, GREAT VIDEO...

  • @junkmannoparts9696
    @junkmannoparts9696 Год назад +1

    Hey Keith nice job this reminds me of making a knee 9 spline on Bridgeport mill Mr Pete had a video on how to thanks . JM

  • @dwayneruthig242
    @dwayneruthig242 Год назад +2

    Nice job, Keith. Always fun to see you use the dividing head.

  • @walterplummer3808
    @walterplummer3808 Год назад +2

    Thanks Keith. Getting closer each step.

  • @dgr8t1
    @dgr8t1 Год назад

    I want to congradulate you on your weight loss journey! As you've lost weight it has become more visually apparent. I hope it continues to be a true blessing to give you a healthy and prosperous life ahead!! and as always thank you for the amazing content!!

  • @HipocratesAG
    @HipocratesAG Год назад +6

    how badass ts that belt sander!?

    • @ruben_balea
      @ruben_balea Год назад +1

      You can use it as a treadmill too!

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob Год назад +4

    I'd have probably put a close fitting pin through the hole, to keep the two parts aligned, while it was being welded.

    • @robertlevine2152
      @robertlevine2152 Год назад +3

      I believe he did just that. When he was at the lathe he showed fitting the old handle onto the new end. The end stub acted as a chill ring for the weld.

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 Год назад +1

    Thanks for sharing. I was so lost there for a moment but my little brain finally caught up to what you were doing. You explained it perfectly I just didn’t get it, but seeing it made it clear. I had one of those “ that’s so kool moments “

  • @storetrollet404
    @storetrollet404 Год назад

    Those increments with the dividing plate! Wow - so impressed with the way you kept track! Thank you for sharing!

  • @robertsmith4788
    @robertsmith4788 Год назад +2

    Quite a complicated little project Keith. Thanks for sharing and doing such a good job of explaining the math needed. Bob

    • @artszabo1015
      @artszabo1015 Год назад

      Yeah, somewhere between math and magic, at least to me it was.
      Art from Ohio

  • @jackpledger8118
    @jackpledger8118 Год назад +1

    I always learn something useful from your videos. Thanks

  • @stephenmorgan8510
    @stephenmorgan8510 Год назад

    I love watching as these old machines get put back together.

  • @bobaloo2012
    @bobaloo2012 Год назад

    It looks like your surgery is working well, it's sure nice to not hear you wheezing every time you move. Hoping to have you around a lot longer.

  • @WilliamTMusil
    @WilliamTMusil Год назад

    Hiya Keith

  • @keithburton7516
    @keithburton7516 Год назад +1

    That would have tested my brain, I cut wrongly if I have to turn things upside down. I would have had many cups of tea before I was sure what to do. Many thanks for your content, I enjoy watching them even tough I do not often use such machinery.

  • @edwinfriedl2446
    @edwinfriedl2446 Год назад +1

    when you were wondering what the material was on the cylinder part. The sparks from the belt sander would have given a clue especially as they were being ground off anyway.

  • @stancloyd
    @stancloyd Год назад

    Excellent job.

  • @phlodel
    @phlodel Год назад

    Grinder and paint makes me the welder I ain't.

  • @whall6101
    @whall6101 Год назад

    Great video!

  • @BigLapua
    @BigLapua Год назад

    Keith, I just LOVE your videos, the production is great. When your vid pops up, I settle in for about 30 min of great stuff at breakfast. I aspire to do the stuff in my shop that you do. Keep it up!

  • @cameraforchristmas
    @cameraforchristmas Год назад

    Great video. Thanks!

  • @sblack48
    @sblack48 Год назад

    The view at 2:00 looks like the cab of a locomotive to me. Which tells you all you need to know about how much I know about locomotives 😜

  • @petemclinc
    @petemclinc Год назад

    Perhaps another way would be to swing the ram 15 degrees on your mill and offset the table in the X axis the required distance then crank
    the dividing head for the 5 spaces.

  • @kindablue1959
    @kindablue1959 Год назад +1

    'inconventional' is an unconventional word. 🙂

  • @TgWags69
    @TgWags69 Год назад +1

    Hi Keith, the name of the arm on your dividing head is a sector arm...not sceptor

  • @paulkinzer7661
    @paulkinzer7661 Год назад +1

    I would sure need to do a lot of studying to be able to use a dividing head, especially for something like this! Fascinating!

  • @user3141592635
    @user3141592635 Год назад

    A funny thing about English. When I visited the USA, my host asked me about using the word "gonna", instead of "going to". I told him it's the way we are told in television, haha. Yes, I am Scandinavian / Swedish.
    Swedes does not generally dub films, but they are viewed with text or subtitles in Swedish.
    An extremely funny example, is in the Movie "Blues Brothers", in German: "Und wir haben Sonnenbrillen !" "And we have sun-glasses". This film was viewed in Germany by a Swede I know. He laughed, because the fun of it got totally lost in German :)

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад

      Most native speakers of any language will have shortcuts/contractions to common words and phrases. French even formalizes it. Le + amour == l’amour, vois + là == voilà

  • @jackgreen412
    @jackgreen412 Год назад

    Always enjoy seeing your approach to and expertise in solving problems.

  • @jdmpilot8001
    @jdmpilot8001 Год назад

    Couple of newbie questions. 1. When your talking about taking 0.100 off of the diameter, do you fee in 0.050? Do you do the math in your head or are the lath markings setup to allow for the difference in in-feed and diameter? 2. What do you do with all the chips and shavings? Do you sweep them up or use a magnet or what? By the way love your content. Thank you

  • @johnmcdyer7297
    @johnmcdyer7297 Год назад

    That was a great job Kieth thank you so much for taking the time to post

  • @rustyshackleford928
    @rustyshackleford928 Год назад

    Keith, this was great. I wanna take you out for a burger my man, you ok? Thanks for this.

  • @richardsurber8226
    @richardsurber8226 Год назад

    very nice thank you

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Год назад

    Fun project with a valuable end product. Thanks for sharing.

  • @propulsar
    @propulsar Год назад

    Interesting video.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 Год назад +2

    Thank you for sharing. Very nice.👍

  • @tomnorman5461
    @tomnorman5461 Год назад +1

    As always, well done, well filmed and edited.

  • @byronwatkins2565
    @byronwatkins2565 Год назад +1

    At 27:00, the needed y-offset is R sin(15 deg). If the I.D. is 0.8", then y = 0.4" sin(15) = 0.1035". The other side will be -0.1035".

  • @stancloyd
    @stancloyd Год назад

    You can see where the handel was welded. Make new toothed sleeves the right length, then weld the handle back on. Less work, better crank handle.

  • @shanewalker9564
    @shanewalker9564 Год назад

    i would make the adapter for each shaft with a grub screw to protect the original shafts and to eliminate ware slop

  • @georgewoodzell1315
    @georgewoodzell1315 Год назад +2

    Excellent work, Keith - and a very instructive video. Well done!

  • @melshea2519
    @melshea2519 Год назад

    Good Morning Keith! 😊

  • @michaelkoch2109
    @michaelkoch2109 Год назад

    Really good work! Best regards from Dresden! I am already looking forward to new videos! 👍👏❤🛠🇩🇪❤🇺🇸😎

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Год назад +2

    nice work keith Thank you for sharing

  • @johncloar1692
    @johncloar1692 Год назад

    Thanks for another steep along the way. Thanks for the effort you put in these videos.

  • @darmah1959
    @darmah1959 Год назад +7

    Curious as to why you did not just make a extension on the other end and reweld the handle to it?

    • @bw3506
      @bw3506 Год назад +4

      Sure but then nobody gets the education on how to actually make the splines.

    • @darmah1959
      @darmah1959 Год назад

      @@ralphgesler5110 The handle looked like it was already welded on, the splines probably needed to be deeper, just wondering why it was done this way as making a round bushing is a whole lot easier.

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад

      He wanted new teeth.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Год назад +1

    Looks like you got a good 'handle' on things.... 🙂

  • @Stefan_Boerjesson
    @Stefan_Boerjesson Год назад +5

    As always, well done, well filmed and edited.
    Just built and verfied a digital control of a rotating table. 7 steps would be no problem as well as the 15 degree adjustments. A little Arduino UNO, a stepper driver and motor.... 39:01

    • @silasmarner7586
      @silasmarner7586 Год назад +1

      I mean this unsarcastically: You should video it it in action and put it on your channel since I see you do indeed have a channel.

    • @Stefan_Boerjesson
      @Stefan_Boerjesson Год назад

      @@silasmarner7586 Thanks! The video recording equipment is either the cell phone, impossible to hold during milling, or a Go Pro hanging in strings, but I'll consider it!

  • @ronwilken5219
    @ronwilken5219 Год назад +1

    Hi Kieth, that was some dance step with the dividing head. While youve got it set up why not turn another, longer one and make a second handle for the other end of the table.
    You're also going to need a longer boreing bar. Josh Tupper at the Tupper engineering site just made a five foot one for his different Lucas HBM. Might give you some ideas.
    Regards from Canada's banana belt.
    🤞🇨🇦🍌🥋🇺🇦🕊️🇺🇲👍

  • @johnrice6793
    @johnrice6793 Год назад +1

    I’m impressed. A most excellent job. You do excellent work. Good on yuh.👊🤜🤛

  • @buckinthetree1233
    @buckinthetree1233 Год назад +1

    I think I would have cut the splines off, weld in an extension, and reweld the existing splines back onto the extension. Mostly because I'm too lazy to figure out how to cut new splines. I am however grateful you made this video incase some day I need to make one from scratch.

  • @scottvolage1752
    @scottvolage1752 Год назад

    Love the Videos Keith. Keep up the good work. Thank you for making the trades great again.

  • @isbcornbinder
    @isbcornbinder Год назад

    God job

  • @themikebray
    @themikebray Год назад

    Great job Keith!

  • @johnfriend240
    @johnfriend240 Год назад +2

    How many crank handles would have come with the mill? Three would be useful, one at headstock, one for the table and one for the tailstock end...

  • @mattyt9999
    @mattyt9999 Год назад +5

    Wouldn't have been easier to remove the handle ands add the extension to the back?

    • @bw3506
      @bw3506 Год назад +3

      Sure but then nobody gets the education on how to actually make the splines.

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад

      He didn't want to have to weld onto the cast iron arm. Someone else already did that part.

  • @patrickmazzone9066
    @patrickmazzone9066 Год назад

    God Bless you i have learned a lot from your channel still trying to get a hang on the dividing plate turns to degree you know count holes then move dividers thanks keep it up

  • @6NBERLS
    @6NBERLS Год назад

    Yet another excellent video.

  • @scrotiemcboogerballs1981
    @scrotiemcboogerballs1981 Год назад

    Great job thanks for sharing

  • @johnb6763
    @johnb6763 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @sjmazzoli
    @sjmazzoli Год назад

    fantastic keith...thank you

  • @georgefager3772
    @georgefager3772 Год назад

    Job well done as always Keith

  • @Craneman4100w
    @Craneman4100w Год назад +1

    This is the machine to do that old steam box job, if it's still waiting.

  • @TheUncleRuckus
    @TheUncleRuckus Год назад

    For the algorithm 👍👍

  • @geneard639
    @geneard639 Год назад +1

    Great work as always. Now, me? Yeah, I would have sat down, done a drawing, sketched out order of operations, gang machined pairs of cog ends, machined new handle shafts and bent them, lathed out new handle axels and grips, put them all together, kept two, offered up the others for sale and used the money to pay for my parts and labor. I admit it, in weird that way.

  • @lecnac855
    @lecnac855 Год назад

    Excellent as usual. Well done. 👍⭐

  • @stevemahrer7097
    @stevemahrer7097 Год назад

    Keith, great series, great content. One suggestion, the power switch / contactor on the belt sander has what appears to be open / exposed 3 phase wiring…. Bad idea! I’d suggest a cover plate, before you get electrocuted! Best!

  • @geraldharkness8830
    @geraldharkness8830 Год назад

    excellent job well done again keith!

  • @danielnorman8595
    @danielnorman8595 Год назад +1

    right off the bat I'm wondering why you just didn't cut off a handle and add it to the back then rewelled the handle? You save yourself a lot of machining

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад +1

      He wanted fresh teeth on the handle.

  • @glennmoreland6457
    @glennmoreland6457 Год назад

    I've a small high speed lineshaft driven radial drill that uses similar handles with a castelation...
    They were very common...
    ☹🇬🇧

  • @THEIRONWORKER
    @THEIRONWORKER Год назад +1

    Make an extra one of those you will need it on a HBM and you are all setup to do it

  • @benpress8884
    @benpress8884 Год назад

    Love watching you figure out the math and setup of the dividing heads/rotary tables, etc, but wouldn't it have been easier to just cut the splined end off and extend it with some tube stock?

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 Год назад

      It would be "easier" to not have a hundred+ years old machine to restore! However, restoration is the function of his "Vintage Machinery" shop!!

  • @monkeyboy4746
    @monkeyboy4746 Год назад

    Back in the day, they must have had a dedicated machine(s) to cut that joint.

  • @sunnysaini9475
    @sunnysaini9475 Год назад

    gteat job sir

  • @victoryfirst2878
    @victoryfirst2878 Год назад

    How accurate is this dividing head Keith ????? Keep up the great work Sir. vf

  • @raycooper9994
    @raycooper9994 Год назад +17

    Why not cut the old one off and make a new full length piece and weld it on the handle?

    • @ericpaul4575
      @ericpaul4575 Год назад +6

      I think the handle was cast and would needed to be brazed on. Probably easier to weld on the extension.

    • @redmorphius
      @redmorphius Год назад

      Probably cause the old teeth are shitty and not quite right anyhow

    • @bradthayer6782
      @bradthayer6782 Год назад +1

      I have to agree. It seems like you picked the hardest way to do this. You could also (gasp) shorten the shafts so as to not interfere.

    • @kindablue1959
      @kindablue1959 Год назад +1

      He did not want to have to weld steel to the cast iron handle. Someone else already did that hard part (hard for him)

    • @mgmoody42
      @mgmoody42 Год назад

      As Keith said, it's probably cast iron and would have to be brazed.

  • @tiagomendes8818
    @tiagomendes8818 Год назад

    Sabe demais

  • @WreckDiver99
    @WreckDiver99 Год назад +1

    Just remember...a Grinder and Paint makes the welder you ain't. Still weld better than I can...because I can't...LOL. That dividing head job was just ouch...I would have messed that up for sure...LOL.
    Unconventional job. I think we're going to see the Coal Feeder Steam Engine getting worked on!!