@Mr Sir you never go 0-100... it's usually 0-50, or 50-90, or 90 to 140(or whatever you highway speed limit is), or 50-140. or 30-40 to 90-140 whem joining the lane Not once do you have to go 0 to 100. Maybe 0 to 140 if you are on a gas station on the highway.
@@purwantiallan5089 They really don’t. Not the old ones and not the new ones. They’re just really good a putting power down on the wheels when compared to other cars. Even in this race the Porsche has less horsepower and less torque than the BMW
@@MrSandChess It also has less wheight and the difference in torque is negletable, power to weight ratio, do the math and they will be around the same, not that hard to understand.
The 997 Turbo S did a 10.9 in the video with all the 911’s racing compared to 11.2 here and I’m fairly sure in the past the normal M5 Competition did something like an 11.1 I believe On another note, the 997 Turbo and Turbo S really do hold their own for the age even compared with modern stuff. It’s insane how well Porsches make use of their power.
@@jordanclarkson2010The 997 Turbo S is a wonderful machine, imagine driving it 10y ago - basically all the AMGs, Ms, RS models were way slower. Love that Porsche
Hey! We all wanna an ultimate V10 drag race! BMW M6, Audi RS6, Dodge Viper, Porsche Carrera GT, Lexus LFA, 1st gen of Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo. And for fun would be great Touareg V10 TDI. 😂
That 997 is older, but it still delivers :) As expected from Porsche ~~ And that M5 CS, we don't even need to talk about how much of a beast that car is from BMW~ Just the way that ZF 8-speed shifts in the BMW and how it can deliver that power is insane~
Not really you're just a porsche fanboy the M5 is a heavy sedan with aerodynamics of a brick at higher speeds the porsche is lighter and better aerodynamically.
@@Mr_Glenn It just like saying "It is amaizing that a 20 year old Ferrari Enzo can keep up with today sports car" ofc it can because it is lighter and a sports car comparing to a family sedan which is 300kg heavier. Year of the car doesnt matter whene the performance it is good
@@Mr_Glenn A sports car vs a sedan lol fix up will ya and I'm definitely not salty over a vehicle I don't discriminate if a cars good I give it its dues in this case all I'm seeing is fangirling lol
@@sancho2112 brother that's just stupid a ferrari enzo can't even compete with a high end performance sedan (for example model s ludicrous, or m5 cs) also the m5 cs is anything but a family friendly sedan its practically a supercar with 4 doors and chairs also new technology>>>weight in acceleration figures
997.2 Turbo S is so visceral. Launching one for the first time scared me and that was after driving multiple 991's thinking those were fast. 997 feeling is unmatched.
That’s very true! I owned a 997.2 turbo S and now a 991.2 turbo S - the 997.2 is in fact the slower car but the „balance“ of the turbo S coming with a slight delay gives you really this kick. The 991.2 is way more linear and therefore feels less kicking your a** . Even tough its accelerates absolutely brutal when you see the sheer numbers
power to weight ratio is what got that porsche, 0.33 hp per kg to .35 hp per kg on the CS. 2 different categories though, a 4 door vs a 2 door, I'm sure that porsche would take the upper hand on a track vs straight line speed. Good video
For the 1st time ever, i dunno what to appreciate more, the modern day super sedan being able to beat a high end sports car from a decade ago, or a decade old sports car showing it can still sorta keep up with the latest super sedan. Love both brands tho and love carwow for making such awesome content.
One of the most impressive things always , is the way those suction pads hold on !! Think back not so long and your suction mirror fell off as soon as the sun shone !! Now 150mph + and it's still there !!
From my perspective, 911's (whatever generation and version you choose) are by far the most well achieved car in a wide scope of parameters. Ok is a sport car, right. Can not be compared to a Fiat Panda, ok right we all know that. But still overall the crazy amount of "spot on 9or10 out of 10" evaluations are undeniable, in my humble opinion which makes it one if not the the most well achieved car in the automotive industry. Any thoughts on this from other users? Cheers!
Thats for me the weakness the last 20 years. Too much machine, not enough soul. 964 or 993 for me. Today more Maserati, Ferrari, Aston or Benz GT. Maybe Corvette or GTR. More emotions, more individualism.
I love the unique eyes like headlight design of Porsche cars and the unique 2 grill design of BMW cars! The way how Porsche and BMW cars perform is insane! I love Porsche and BMW cars!
Porsche really was ahead of their time with the 911 Turbo S, especially within this 997, which is still a beast to this day. I mean that flat 6 engine from the company is no joke.
dude we know how fast the bmw but it won over 10 years old car with less power and way cheaper in these days and yet the porsche handle it very well considering the gap
Porsche cars have there unique design, insane performance and insane brakes! Company's founder Ferdinand Porsche is a legend in the automobile world. Hybrid cars won't be there if Ferdinand Porsche didn't invent them. He's my hero. That's why I love Porsche cars!
Hybrid 1901 and Electric in 1897, not only cars, busses, and trucks as well. The main difference is that Elon Musk added a chip & Lithium battery; nevertheless, the entire principle was indeed from Ferdinand Porsche, an electrical and mechanical engineer, and finder of Porsche.
I am genuinely amazed by this result. I was convinced that the BMW being so much newer, more powerful, new gearbox etc. would absolutely WASTE the 911.
@@iohanncenturion9343 240kg* that's definitely not "almost 300kg" 😂😂 And weight isn't a problem when you have the power to move it. That said the bmw has a better power to weight ratio, more gears, newer technology, better tires, longer wheelbase, not used etc etc. The only advantage the Porsche has is a rear mounted engine, but it only helps during the launch or if it is rwd.
yeah porka did well, but at end of day the bmw, although newer, is still a big 4 seat 4 door saloon car with boot space etc, so its pretty nuts, in other videos it runs 10,5 quart miles.
Like all drag races, first and most important thing is power to weight ratio, since the BMW is in a clear disadvantage with 300 more kilograms, but it's more powerful. Then comes traction, gearing and aerodynamics, wich you can see are very good in both cars. That was a close and interesting race. Thank you for these kind of videos!
No it would not. The CS do a 10.5 and the 992 Turbo S 10.2. Something wrong on this video. So the difference is not too far off. A simple ECU and cheap tune with all tock part on the M5 CS would absolutely destroy the 992 in every way possible.
@@arc_sa8292 It's smoking the M5 easy, the 991.1 Turbo S however is a bit faster than the 997 so that would be a good race for sure. The "problem" is a 991.2 have 650hp, 977 and 991.1 have similar power with 530 vs 550hp, improved pdk and a few horses do alot.
I almost bought that 997 Turbo 7 years ago. Amazing how well it has held value. Performance today is still fantastic. at half the price of the BMW, it is a no brainer. Get the Porsche and a minivan if you need the extra space .
I’ll who remembers that turbo’s review on top gear back in the late noughties? When Jeremy talks about the flexible of engine? One second to get to 40 to 60mph! The car was a monster!
I would be really interested to see the difference in performance between an M5 fully loaded with five (large) passengers versus and M5 with just the driver
Without a doubt one can say that the M5 CS would win as it's the most potent BMW ever and also the Turbo S used here is one generation older, thereby being less promising.
@@leogro4458 yeah what you're saying is true but also you need to look upon the fact that people associate the name 'Turbo S' with invincibility but here when you get to know that it's not the current Turbo S but an older one and that too it is pitted against the M5 CS, you're safe to say that the M5 is going to win for it's the most powerful BMW ever made.
@@jacquincedras yup.. 👍🏼 tha ka for the correction. I remember seeing this very model of Turbo S, driven by Jeremy Clarkson, being pitted against a Ferrari in one of the Top Gear episodes.
There was a time in my life where I thought, man I’d never be able to afford that Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche. Didn’t think I’d ever say it about a family Saloon BMW. 140k…
I think in the specs, though you said, it is a flat six, the Editors wrote i6 wich is not completely wrong, but i would say, f6 would be a better shortening
@@Toyota4Life Toyota got smashed by NIssan in the official SGT recently. What do you feel now as a Toyota fanboy ? Are you on those who say that the new BMZupra is better than the 400Z ? Because Toyota fangirls are all the same. I have a friend IRL like that.
Fantastic race. It would have been a different ball game had a 991 Turbo S raced. Maybe M5 Competition would of been a more fair car to pit against the older car.
yeah, that's true what you're saying but also we need to look at the fact that people associate the name 'Turbo S' with invincibility. But the moment you get to see that it's an older generation Turbo S, you're assured that the M5 CS, which is the most powerful BMW ever, will win without a doubt.
They make 2 seat cars that weigh nothing. BMW, Mercedes can do this as well. Infact the new S58 is more than likely more potent than any porsche engine. There is a supra with just the B58 doing 1/4 mile in 8.3s.
I can appreciate why people like the M5 but at the end of the day one of these cars is a 5 series with a V8 and the other is a version of the best sports car ever made🤷🏼
Matthew there was a kind of way you used to review cars back 2018 to 2019 absolutely nice video back then today drag race to drag race there is a new BMW 3 series facelift yet we have not seen it just keep the theme to find new cars coming to market
Clean sweep! The M5 CS is arguably the greatest internal combustion super saloon ever produced. I don't think there will be any other to knock it off its throne since the EVs are coming.
The first race was unfair. The BMW jumped the start and it would have been much closer if they started at the same time. Surprised they didn't do best of 3 considering. This channel is BMWWow, far too many bloody BMW's in the drag races.
Insane where we are in 22. Last 2 years made a BIG step. A heavy big 4 door sports salon is as fast as a supercar from a legendary sportscar company. And EVs are much faster. Crazy...
A 10 year old and much cheaper Porsche holding its own to a current very fast, pricey and over rated saloon.. Porsche are great and in a different league to any BMW..
Cool video as always !! We saw almost all fastest car drag races . Me and some other people i guess would be very happy if we could see a drag race between german diesel cars between 2010-2015 year of production . ThankU for all good videos .
Porsche or BMW - which manufacturer makes the best performance cars!? VOTE below!
VOTE: BMW!
VOTE: Porsche!
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Porsche!
I love both Porsche and BMW because both Porsche and BMW make cars with an insane look and insane performance!
Hey Carwow, it would be very cool if you could add the speed the cars have reached when crossing the finishline!
If you want to know the speed use the distance traveled (0.25Miles) divided by the time taken to cross the line by the 🚗
@@ahmadsyed6847 It doesnt work like that. It would only work if the cars were driving at a consistent speed but they are accelerating
I agree.
@@ahmadsyed6847 and that would give you the average velocity not the final one
@@ahmadsyed6847 wow ok mathematician
Hey Matt along with quarter mile times please also include their speeds. It's absolutely necessary thing in a race.
@Mr Sir 0-100 is a pretty pointless metric though.
@Mr Sir add also a 2km drag time.
@@rattlehead999 but still pretty logic.
@Mr Sir you never go 0-100...
it's usually 0-50, or 50-90, or 90 to 140(or whatever you highway speed limit is), or 50-140.
or 30-40 to 90-140 whem joining the lane
Not once do you have to go 0 to 100.
Maybe 0 to 140 if you are on a gas station on the highway.
@@rattlehead999 I like how you double down even though you know you are wrong. You do way more 0-100 than any other "categories".
I am a bmw fanboy but I really love how consistent the Porsche is after all the time. It just shows what kind of a quality German cars have
The Porsche has better spec regardless of how old those cars are.
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@@purwantiallan5089 Not really, it depend on what model.
@@purwantiallan5089 They really don’t. Not the old ones and not the new ones. They’re just really good a putting power down on the wheels when compared to other cars. Even in this race the Porsche has less horsepower and less torque than the BMW
@@MrSandChess It also has less wheight and the difference in torque is negletable, power to weight ratio, do the math and they will be around the same, not that hard to understand.
The CS is rapid but a 10 years old Porsche keeping up is insane
13 years
@@youloveit1 14 years
The 997 Turbo S did a 10.9 in the video with all the 911’s racing compared to 11.2 here and I’m fairly sure in the past the normal M5 Competition did something like an 11.1 I believe
On another note, the 997 Turbo and Turbo S really do hold their own for the age even compared with modern stuff. It’s insane how well Porsches make use of their power.
yeah wasnt a fast day on that video, as most clips on youtube show the bmw m5 cs doing a 10.6 quarter mile.
in cars age doesn't matter
If its specs are still good it will hold up
yes, 911 is down a 100hp but its also way lighter which is why it holds up
@@irtiza4262 That is true, its just that most cars now are so ridiculously fast so its good to see an older car still holding its own.
@@jordanclarkson2010The 997 Turbo S is a wonderful machine, imagine driving it 10y ago - basically all the AMGs, Ms, RS models were way slower. Love that Porsche
That new BMW M5 is a monster....and that Porsche also was quick, inspite of being old....🔥
That Porsche is 100% a sports car..
@@duffydon1741 Agreed and the BMW isn't completely a sports car.... 😜
@@duffydon1741 yep. Sports and Race Special Cars.
@@ronatif more like half sports, half luxury cars.
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That Turbo S is such a beauty! Actually, even that CS too!
German cars in general
We know
@@emdjo6485 no
@@emdjo6485 German cars know everything in terms of maximizing performances.
@@atlanticjatt7525 Assalamualaikum, ATLANTIC JATT. 🙏
Hey! We all wanna an ultimate V10 drag race!
BMW M6, Audi RS6, Dodge Viper, Porsche Carrera GT, Lexus LFA, 1st gen of Audi R8 and Lamborghini Gallardo. And for fun would be great Touareg V10 TDI. 😂
@Sigrid Kaag he meant the C6
@Sigrid Kaag the old one isnt
that would be so great
And I would add a Hennessey HPE1200 Jeep Trackhawk, would beat all of these hands down.
@@commonsense-grs that's not a v10 tho. So pointless
That 997 is gorgeous, my favorite generation of 911. The M5 CS is amazing too and guaranteed future classic
That 997 is older, but it still delivers :) As expected from Porsche ~~ And that M5 CS, we don't even need to talk about how much of a beast that car is from BMW~ Just the way that ZF 8-speed shifts in the BMW and how it can deliver that power is insane~
2:46 Drag race
4:20 Rolling Race 1
5:04 Rolling Race 2
6:12 Brake Test
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@@dimmacommunication ANDREA, have u own a BMW car before? Most of the people own at least one of them.
@@purwantiallan5089 No , never owned a bmw , should I jump off a cliff now ? 😂
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A 10 year old Porsche holding up its ground to the M5 CS just shows how good Porsches are.
Shows how light they are.
100%
it means that Porsche is sportcar, m5 cs is sedan
Engine at the front vs Engine at the back.
Hell no, a family saloon winning against a porsche 911 turbo s just shows how good the cs is
I'm still impressed by this porsche, the way it kept holding on is insanely nuts.
Not really you're just a porsche fanboy the M5 is a heavy sedan with aerodynamics of a brick at higher speeds the porsche is lighter and better aerodynamically.
@@Islam_is_the_truth.4 You're just salty that a decade old Porsche did a good job against a new car. The Porsche truly is impressive.
@@Mr_Glenn It just like saying "It is amaizing that a 20 year old Ferrari Enzo can keep up with today sports car" ofc it can because it is lighter and a sports car comparing to a family sedan which is 300kg heavier.
Year of the car doesnt matter whene the performance it is good
@@Mr_Glenn A sports car vs a sedan lol fix up will ya and I'm definitely not salty over a vehicle I don't discriminate if a cars good I give it its dues in this case all I'm seeing is fangirling lol
@@sancho2112 brother that's just stupid a ferrari enzo can't even compete with a high end performance sedan (for example model s ludicrous, or m5 cs) also the m5 cs is anything but a family friendly sedan its practically a supercar with 4 doors and chairs also new technology>>>weight in acceleration figures
Damn the 997 Turbo S is so beautiful
And the fact that it’s keeping up so good just shows how good it is still after so many years
Porsche is miles ahead of BMW.
Well a Koenigsegg doesn’t come below 1Million Euros, that’s another league
Crazy especially its 13y old. If you compare the acceleration figures of cars from this period the turbo s was so damn fast
997.2 Turbo S is so visceral. Launching one for the first time scared me and that was after driving multiple 991's thinking those were fast. 997 feeling is unmatched.
That’s very true! I owned a 997.2 turbo S and now a 991.2 turbo S - the 997.2 is in fact the slower car but the „balance“ of the turbo S coming with a slight delay gives you really this kick. The 991.2 is way more linear and therefore feels less kicking your a** . Even tough its accelerates absolutely brutal when you see the sheer numbers
I miss those 180+ mph rolling races
😂🤣😂
Me too.... Those 180mph rolling races are epic in the past.
@@purwantiallan5089 why did they stop with that
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@@wasmiddelsap3379 Im guessing fear
The 997.2 will forever be the prettiest 911 series. Timeless Design, so classy and modern. Gotta love it
993🙏
The 997.2 Porsche looked like a car from NFS SHIFT 2 UNLEASHED.
wrong, interior design is hideous
Stop the cap, the new gts is prettier than it.
@@Cxs1a3 what’s wrong with it???
I'd still rather the the Porsche, such a timeless beautiful machine and just wait until it's track day.
Actually they're pretty even on track day. 7:29:57 min on the Nordschleife for the BMW, 7:29:00 for the Porsche. Both are just such great cars!
@@ilovebeerpong6026 but the porsche is 60k cheaper lol
@@tecnogadget2 the porsche isnt a luxury sedan with 4 seats?
@@Fritzje98 No shit sherlock
You can get a Turbo S 997.2 for around 70-85k. The m5 is 170k isn't it? lol
So the BMW M5 CS won every challenge… and I would still choose the Porsche every day of the week and twice on Sunday… 😍
Always love a Porsche & Bmw drag race, both display superb engineering and best in class performance.
Me too love Porsche and BMW drag race as a NFS fan.
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I discovered this channel days ago, and as a car lover, I love this channel.
Don’t click the number that someone commented with, it will be a scam, I’ve reported the comment
Damn your late
@@Jake-ie6bi yep. Too many times we see this right now.
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You have a huge backlog of drag races to get through! Enjoy.
As a big bmw and porsche guy , i just love to see a 10 year old porsche keep up with the fastest bmw of our generation . Amazing.
M4csl is quicker than the m5 cs
@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr Quicker on a track not in a straight line.
@@jhxzzy863 If it's straight line, grab a base Model S taxi-edition Tesla. It beats every BMW on the straight.
@@jhxzzy863 it has better hp/kg ratio than the m5cs so it should be quicker, at least if it has some gripp
@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr M3 CSL too.
power to weight ratio is what got that porsche, 0.33 hp per kg to .35 hp per kg on the CS. 2 different categories though, a 4 door vs a 2 door, I'm sure that porsche would take the upper hand on a track vs straight line speed. Good video
I love the color of that Porsche! Gorgeous 😍
Ugly as fuk. Its like having a red merc or bmw. Yuck
Race starts at 2:43
For the 1st time ever, i dunno what to appreciate more, the modern day super sedan being able to beat a high end sports car from a decade ago, or a decade old sports car showing it can still sorta keep up with the latest super sedan. Love both brands tho and love carwow for making such awesome content.
Need more M5CS drag races
One of the most impressive things always , is the way those suction pads hold on !! Think back not so long and your suction mirror fell off as soon as the sun shone !! Now 150mph + and it's still there !!
From my perspective, 911's (whatever generation and version you choose) are by far the most well achieved car in a wide scope of parameters.
Ok is a sport car, right.
Can not be compared to a Fiat Panda, ok right we all know that.
But still overall the crazy amount of "spot on 9or10 out of 10" evaluations are undeniable, in my humble opinion which makes it one if not the the most well achieved car in the automotive industry.
Any thoughts on this from other users?
Cheers!
Thats for me the weakness the last 20 years. Too much machine, not enough soul. 964 or 993 for me. Today more Maserati, Ferrari, Aston or Benz GT. Maybe Corvette or GTR. More emotions, more individualism.
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I love the unique eyes like headlight design of Porsche cars and the unique 2 grill design of BMW cars! The way how Porsche and BMW cars perform is insane! I love Porsche and BMW cars!
👍👍👍👍 Me too, Okith.
@@purwantiallan5089 Hi
@@purwantiallan5089 Thank you
This shows how ahead of the game the turbo has always been.
Because it kept up with a 4 door family saloon?
@@t8506 yes because its faster than some modern supercars
@@t8506 because it kept up with a 4 door saloon that beats most supercars and the fact that the car is 10 years old
@@t8506m5 cs isn’t a family car it’s a high end sports car wth u smoking
I’d have expected the M5 CS to do high 10’s over the quarter mile…. Nevertheless, great drag race 👍
Its done high 10s before on this drag strip.
Bad DA probably, this exact Porsche did 10.9 1/4 a couple of videos ago)
@@richardlabeja i am expecting this to go 7.9 seconds time in a drag race 500m.
@@coolguy_2997 why bad DA, Cool Guy?
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We all know the m5 cs is a beast but around of applause for the 10year old Porsche still keeping up with it
Porsche really was ahead of their time with the 911 Turbo S, especially within this 997, which is still a beast to this day. I mean that flat 6 engine from the company is no joke.
A 4 door saloon killing supercars is madness. 2 cars you can't go wrong with...an M5...and a Nissan GTR. Absolute supercar killers
dude we know how fast the bmw
but it won over 10 years old car with less power and way cheaper in these days
and yet the porsche handle it very well considering the gap
Porsche cars have there unique design, insane performance and insane brakes! Company's founder Ferdinand Porsche is a legend in the automobile world. Hybrid cars won't be there if Ferdinand Porsche didn't invent them. He's my hero. That's why I love Porsche cars!
Hybrid 1901 and Electric in 1897, not only cars, busses, and trucks as well. The main difference is that Elon Musk added a chip & Lithium battery; nevertheless, the entire principle was indeed from Ferdinand Porsche, an electrical and mechanical engineer, and finder of Porsche.
I am genuinely amazed by this result. I was convinced that the BMW being so much newer, more powerful, new gearbox etc. would absolutely WASTE the 911.
Almost 300kg heavier too
Engine at the back is physically the most efficient for a combustion sports car, albeit sacrificing practicality.
@@iohanncenturion9343 240kg* that's definitely not "almost 300kg" 😂😂
And weight isn't a problem when you have the power to move it. That said the bmw has a better power to weight ratio, more gears, newer technology, better tires, longer wheelbase, not used etc etc. The only advantage the Porsche has is a rear mounted engine, but it only helps during the launch or if it is rwd.
yeah porka did well, but at end of day the bmw, although newer, is still a big 4 seat 4 door saloon car with boot space etc, so its pretty nuts, in other videos it runs 10,5 quart miles.
Just shows how amazing any modern 911 is! Every 911 punches way above its price point.
Like all drag races, first and most important thing is power to weight ratio, since the BMW is in a clear disadvantage with 300 more kilograms, but it's more powerful. Then comes traction, gearing and aerodynamics, wich you can see are very good in both cars. That was a close and interesting race. Thank you for these kind of videos!
Kudos to the 997 for holding up against so well but the CS is a beast.
It didn’t even do its quickest time which is 10.9s ..
U think the CS did it's quickest time?
If that 997 wins, it’s a miracle. It’s frickin’ 10yrs old
That’s not old tf it’s a Porsche and that a big sedan ofc ut should be that fast
Then it's not a miracle at all 🤣
@@bobhey4969 That Sedan is the fastest BMW ever made! Hence the worry!! 2 gen-old Porsche vs the most extreme BMW ever made!
Damn, for sure didn´t expect that result of the brake test. 😳
Crazy how refined ABS-systems have become!
I love the Cs, but a 992 Turbo S would annihilate it. Makes you realise how far cars have come and how much more power the Cs has than claimed 😂
No it would not. The CS do a 10.5 and the 992 Turbo S 10.2. Something wrong on this video. So the difference is not too far off. A simple ECU and cheap tune with all tock part on the M5 CS would absolutely destroy the 992 in every way possible.
CS does 10.6 and the Turbo S 992 did a 10.1
M5CS vs E63s
M5CS vs 488 Pista
M5CS vs GT63s
M5CS vs Huracan
(M5 on original P Zero Corsa)
M3 xDrive vs E63s
Love how you guys are bringing old car on the channel and not just new cars
That M5 is just out of this world
a tesla beats it...
@@disconunu3210 said no man ever…
M5cs is a beast bmw have done some black magic to that thing
😂
Even old Turbo S going head to head with that M5 CS🤧🤧
We want the new Turbo S vs the cs
@@arc_sa8292 the 992 is in its own league lol
@@arc_sa8292 It's smoking the M5 easy, the 991.1 Turbo S however is a bit faster than the 997 so that would be a good race for sure.
The "problem" is a 991.2 have 650hp, 977 and 991.1 have similar power with 530 vs 550hp, improved pdk and a few horses do alot.
@@rot_v what league?
A tesla suv smokes turbo s!!,lol
@@ImDembe Correction 991.2 turbo s had 580hp and 992 have 650hp.
I almost bought that 997 Turbo 7 years ago. Amazing how well it has held value. Performance today is still fantastic. at half the price of the BMW, it is a no brainer. Get the Porsche and a minivan if you need the extra space .
It's definitely not half the price.
That M5 CS looks soo good in Matt's window post drag race. So planted and serene
He screams: "давай, давай, давай!“ 🤣
Я вот тоже подумал сначала что ослышался)
I thought this was a dumb obvious race, but that porche kept up amazingly well! Incredible 👏
Mat thank you so much for this insane video!
The 997 on Michelin Pilot Sport tires would have won the standing race. Bridgestones are way less sticky.
Would of liked to see a best of 3 on the 1/4 mile race. That same 997.2 did a 10.9 a few weeks ago when comparing all the 911 Turbo’s.
The BMW M5 CS is back!!!
Respect to BMW for representing all other sports sedans.
That M5 is a masterpiece for sure.
I’ll who remembers that turbo’s review on top gear back in the late noughties? When Jeremy talks about the flexible of engine? One second to get to 40 to 60mph! The car was a monster!
997 gen - 11.2 seconds 992 gen - 10.2 seconds. Shows how good Porsche have played with their 911 Turbo S !! ❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥👏👏
I would be really interested to see the difference in performance between an M5 fully loaded with five (large) passengers versus and M5 with just the driver
Without a doubt one can say that the M5 CS would win as it's the most potent BMW ever and also the Turbo S used here is one generation older, thereby being less promising.
No, the Turbo S is two generations older. After the 997 came the 991 and then came the current 992.
997 991.1 991.2 992
2 generations older🙈. Today you get the 992 and the previous gen is the 991. In the video is the 997
@@leogro4458 yeah what you're saying is true but also you need to look upon the fact that people associate the name 'Turbo S' with invincibility but here when you get to know that it's not the current Turbo S but an older one and that too it is pitted against the M5 CS, you're safe to say that the M5 is going to win for it's the most powerful BMW ever made.
@@jacquincedras yup.. 👍🏼 tha ka for the correction. I remember seeing this very model of Turbo S, driven by Jeremy Clarkson, being pitted against a Ferrari in one of the Top Gear episodes.
There was a time in my life where I thought, man I’d never be able to afford that Ferrari, Lamborghini or Porsche. Didn’t think I’d ever say it about a family Saloon BMW. 140k…
1:45 feedback: you could highlight the superior stats
Idk why people are shocked by the 911 the turbo s been one of the quickest production cars on the road for the past 10+ years lol
This Proves just how good both Cars are😮
"The heavy, 4-door saloon just beat a sports car. That's an M5's job. " - Jeremy Clarkson
Imagine coming home one day and seeing these two in ur garage. They're like the perfect combination although I'm not a fan of the 997
I think in the specs, though you said, it is a flat six, the Editors wrote i6 wich is not completely wrong, but i would say, f6 would be a better shortening
We need a Bugatti Chiron SS vs Rimac Nevera drag race immediately!!!
Imagine the fun, with 4 adults in the M5 laughin…😁
Almost forgot the Porsche is like 10 years old!
Because they all look the same
@@Toyota4Life Toyota got smashed by NIssan in the official SGT recently. What do you feel now as a Toyota fanboy ? Are you on those who say that the new BMZupra is better than the 400Z ? Because Toyota fangirls are all the same. I have a friend IRL like that.
Fantastic race. It would have been a different ball game had a 991 Turbo S raced. Maybe M5 Competition would of been a more fair car to pit against the older car.
its crazy to think how porsche made there new turbo s cars a whole second faster in a quarter mile then from 997 gen
11.1 was the same time as an M5 competition..and still slower than an M8. It was clearly a bad launch..especially when people are doing it in 10.6
The BMW is just a beast even though its a saloon family car.
Lol it´s not a family car, Its purpose built
@@Marvin-vj4ib purpose built for racing i think.
I don’t care how much power it has I’m not paying 175 grand for an m5
I paid 150k euros for mine, already have an offer for 180k.
@@dimitariliyanov3680 just realized msrp in the US is 140k Jesus Christ for 140 I can build a 1000whp tt gallardo
Would love to see the M5CS VS M4CSL Next!
Considering technology advances so fast since then, that 997.2 Turbo S is still freaking fast!
I think i would rather save £60,000 on the "slightly" slower Porsche, that would guarantee to go up in value.
You cant get your Kids in the Porsche, you cant compare a sedan and a sport car, different usage
Also there's one thing to notice that the Turbo S completed the quarter mile in 11.2 seconds which is a whole second slower than the current Turbo S.
Well that’s 10 years of development and over 100 hp extra for you
yeah, that's true what you're saying but also we need to look at the fact that people associate the name 'Turbo S' with invincibility. But the moment you get to see that it's an older generation Turbo S, you're assured that the M5 CS, which is the most powerful BMW ever, will win without a doubt.
@@gregmayled the horsepower isn’t the difference, it’s the transmission. 100 hp is like subtracting a tenth of the et.
@@Youcallthesebagels_ those M5’s dyno at around 700 hp lol. Should’ve completely dropped the 911 in that case
The 997 looks like a 2010 model so technically 12 years old ;-)
Technically and technologically is even older than 12 so yea...impressive
Is there a better brand than Porsche? Has the luxury and style but the performance to rival most if not all super cars! Absolutely perfect!
It just goes to show how genius Porsche engineering is 🤝
You mean bmw?
They make 2 seat cars that weigh nothing. BMW, Mercedes can do this as well. Infact the new S58 is more than likely more potent than any porsche engine. There is a supra with just the B58 doing 1/4 mile in 8.3s.
4 door family saloon
@@Hans-qq7jd yeah crazy how bmw managed to beat a 10year old car with all that technology
Good old porsche
BMW was like "use the older Turbo S or else."
I can appreciate why people like the M5 but at the end of the day one of these cars is a 5 series with a V8 and the other is a version of the best sports car ever made🤷🏼
I just died 👍🏽🤣
Porsche is a true German engineering marvel. 100 HP is weaker and older but runs as fast as a very expensive and very fast M5 Cs
Yes, but it´s a sedan with 250 kg more and worst aerodynamics...
Matthew there was a kind of way you used to review cars back 2018 to 2019 absolutely nice video back then today drag race to drag race there is a new BMW 3 series facelift yet we have not seen it just keep the theme to find new cars coming to market
That m5 is just a complete beast 💪
Porsche probably would have done better with the right tyre pressures!
Clean sweep! The M5 CS is arguably the greatest internal combustion super saloon ever produced. I don't think there will be any other to knock it off its throne since the EVs are coming.
This same 997.2 Turbo S achieved 10.9s in the Turbo Generations Drag race
Porsche has that timeless design that newer bmw's which they had
The first race was unfair. The BMW jumped the start and it would have been much closer if they started at the same time. Surprised they didn't do best of 3 considering. This channel is BMWWow, far too many bloody BMW's in the drag races.
Oh dear, someone doesn't like BMWs!
Matt knew there was a chance the old Porsche would win, but considering he’s a bmw fanboy he wouldn’t dare let that happen
Watch it at 0.25 the cs goes right as her hand moves.
THE M5CS IS SUCH AN ICON!!!!! arghhhhh!! As a BMW fan boy I am so happy!!!!
Also. The M4 CSL! The drip!
This is a testament to how fast that Porsche is! 10 years old and wasn’t far off the M5. I thought the M5 was going to wipe the floor with it 😂
Insane where we are in 22. Last 2 years made a BIG step. A heavy big 4 door sports salon is as fast as a supercar from a legendary sportscar company. And EVs are much faster. Crazy...
A 10 year old and much cheaper Porsche holding its own to a current very fast, pricey and over rated saloon.. Porsche are great and in a different league to any BMW..
Ah, yes. Porsche Inline 6
(because that's what the video said)
Cool video as always !! We saw almost all fastest car drag races .
Me and some other people i guess would be very happy if we could see a drag race between german diesel cars between 2010-2015 year of production .
ThankU for all good videos .