Jeff was a wealth of knowledge and a wonderful boat designer as well as a friend to all boat enthusiasts he would answer any questions for everyone that would get in touch with him. RIP brother though you probably know all your boat plans and years of hard work are no longer available for us to purchase and that makes a lot of people around the world very sad. Rest well my brother…
You are a wealth of knowledge for the aspiring boat builder! Thank you so much for sharing Jeff. I really appreciate the background you provide on the regional connection to these boat designs!
Hi Jeff. Thanks for the information. I also enjoy hearing about your experiences and insights from years on the water. These videos have really helped keep my mind active during lockdown here in Bali. Tomorrow the beaches are opening up for the first time since March. I'm planning to go out and look at all the traditional Balinese jukung fishing boats parked on the beach with a new appreciation from all I've learned over the last few months about wooden boats. Thanks again.
When I first started designing a boat two years ago I thought I had a pretty good grasp on the subject but the more I learn I realize it's as complicated as you make it. Jeff's boats and design philosophy really helped clear away the BS. Most of us just want a safe and affordable fishing platform that we can build with decent woodworking skills. Just plop down the $60 bucks on a simple design and get to it. At worst you'll learn a lot and your wife will get an interesting flower planter for the back yard.
In 1969 or so I first saw a Radon Dive Boat, a fast, broad decked boat arrive at the Santa Barbara Harbor’s dock with an electric hoist. It was loaded with a huge cargo of abalone, destined for an Asian market. The tall, athletic, bearded diver-owner of the boat bragged that the first load had paid off his boat! Within a month there were three more Radon boats in the harbor. Within a year there were at least ten more. Five or six years later I overheard that abalone were scarce on the island and that “ Those damned Sheepshead fish were eating them all!” A few years later there arose in Asia a market for sea urchins! You guessed it… same old opera with the same old libretta: “Damned otters are killing off our business!”
Thanks. DEFINITELY a splash well for any transom bowed, v-bottom, CABIN class outboard cruiser in the 18-20’ range. Remember the Homelites? Remember the department store brands?
Here is a little unknown history about the advent of the new generation outboards, EFI, DFI, 4 stroke, etc. Years ago in CA, they created a huge body of water for a staged jet ski event. At the end of the event they were required to test the water. They found unacceptable levels of MTBE. The California Air Resources Board then mandated that all outboards must reduce their emissions or they will loose the CA market. CA is such a big market, the entire industry was finally compelled to make the advancements in efficiency that we all enjoy today! CA also ushered in the flatscreen because they mandated a phase-out of the old CRT's..
Thank you for this video Jeff. I recently purchased a set of your 19' Garvey plans. I was wondering what you think about swim platforms and transom extensions. Would love to get your thoughts. Thank you
@@tjkid07 I'm not to concerned with easy, this is a boat I will be working on for sometime. I would like to have it perfect. Not to mention the additional floatation would not hurt with off shore use.
The most reliable motor is by far an electric motor. They don't come with lower ends to change directions down the transom of a boat, or the ones that do are ridiculously expensive. In 5 years you won't be able to give outboards away.
what all is included in your hull weights ? i realize they are approximate but is that the finished bare bones boat minus any addons like seats engines fuel tanks floors cabins and such ?
Can u take a 35 allmand tri cabin sailboat and convert it to using a outboard...either in a made well or on a bracket ? How ? We are looking at a Allmand has no engine and trying to figure out what to do to get this to work.
Starting to design a custom boat. I have ZERO experience. I am wanting it to be a hybrid Cat/Flatbottom Cabin Cruiser, Live Aboard size and weight. Need it to sleep Minimum of 5. Now that those outlandish parameters are set. I also want it to run on solar, and use electric motors for propulsion. I mention this as it will help frame out the over all weight of the boat. I would like a top on plane crusing speed to be about 30 Knots. Now to the Question - What size electric motors do your recommend?
LOL. Well, you have started with one of the most difficult undertakings in boats, a high speed, live aboard, electric catamaran. You have to start off learning a LOT of things about hull design, strength, buoyancy and stability calculations, planing & drag powering calculations and lots more. It's a bit like saying, I want to design a jet fighter to compete with an F-22 Raptor, with its speed and stealth, which engines should I use? I'd suggest starting by designing a Piper cub first, then moving through a lot of more sophisticated designs until you arrive at a high performance stealthy, supercruising fighter. It only took 40 years, 1000s of designs, and thousands of losses in battle in dozens of wars to get there.
@@tjkid07 I have since decided that the power efficiency to speed curve are to much to have that kind of speed on that size boat. I am going for much less maybe 15 knots, and then making a skiff for the higher speed needs.
I think Jeff's boats would be very good for a diy inboard electric motor as they handle a lot of weight and don't need a lot of power. Electric motors have great torque capacity.
Jeff was a wealth of knowledge and a wonderful boat designer as well as a friend to all boat enthusiasts he would answer any questions for everyone that would get in touch with him. RIP brother though you probably know all your boat plans and years of hard work are no longer available
for us to purchase and that makes a lot of people around the world very sad. Rest well my brother…
You are a wealth of knowledge for the aspiring boat builder! Thank you so much for sharing Jeff. I really appreciate the background you provide on the regional connection to these boat designs!
Thanks, Chris!
Hi Jeff. Thanks for the information. I also enjoy hearing about your experiences and insights from years on the water. These videos have really helped keep my mind active during lockdown here in Bali. Tomorrow the beaches are opening up for the first time since March. I'm planning to go out and look at all the traditional Balinese jukung fishing boats parked on the beach with a new appreciation from all I've learned over the last few months about wooden boats. Thanks again.
I've bought several of those single cylinder diesel motors from Alibaba and imported here to the US. Had no problems.
Great information. Even more things for me to consider as I work towards building my first boat.
When I first started designing a boat two years ago I thought I had a pretty good grasp on the subject but the more I learn I realize it's as complicated as you make it. Jeff's boats and design philosophy really helped clear away the BS. Most of us just want a safe and affordable fishing platform that we can build with decent woodworking skills. Just plop down the $60 bucks on a simple design and get to it. At worst you'll learn a lot and your wife will get an interesting flower planter for the back yard.
In 1969 or so I first saw a Radon Dive Boat, a fast, broad decked boat arrive at the Santa Barbara Harbor’s dock with an electric hoist. It was loaded with a huge cargo of abalone, destined for an Asian market. The tall, athletic, bearded diver-owner of the boat bragged that the first load had paid off his boat!
Within a month there were three more Radon boats in the harbor. Within a year there were at least ten more. Five or six years later I overheard that abalone were scarce on the island and that “ Those damned Sheepshead fish were eating them all!”
A few years later there arose in Asia a market for sea urchins!
You guessed it… same old opera with the same old libretta: “Damned otters are killing off our business!”
Thanks. DEFINITELY a splash well for any transom bowed, v-bottom, CABIN class outboard cruiser in the 18-20’ range. Remember the Homelites? Remember the department store brands?
i had a Homelite four stroke 50 horse back in the 80's
Thank you Jeff, always informative.
I will soon build a small Spira Pacific Dory, but it will have an offshore bracket. The only way to hand an outboard
Here is a little unknown history about the advent of the new generation outboards, EFI, DFI, 4 stroke, etc. Years ago in CA, they created a huge body of water for a staged jet ski event. At the end of the event they were required to test the water. They found unacceptable levels of MTBE. The California Air Resources Board then mandated that all outboards must reduce their emissions or they will loose the CA market. CA is such a big market, the entire industry was finally compelled to make the advancements in efficiency that we all enjoy today! CA also ushered in the flatscreen because they mandated a phase-out of the old CRT's..
Yeah ca.workin on making men obsolete.
Rest in peace Jeff.
Thank you for this video Jeff.
I recently purchased a set of your 19' Garvey plans. I was wondering what you think about swim platforms and transom extensions. Would love to get your thoughts.
Thank you
I could design you a custom extension, but a jackplate and two swim steps one on each side would be much preferred and waaaay easier to build.
@@tjkid07 I'm not to concerned with easy, this is a boat I will be working on for sometime. I would like to have it perfect. Not to mention the additional floatation would not hurt with off shore use.
Thanks Jeff. Have you designed a front well Florida Mullet Skiff? Or seen plans for one? Thanks
Yes, I've messed with several designs on my Pacific Power dory hulls.
The most reliable motor is by far an electric motor. They don't come with lower ends to change directions down the transom of a boat, or the ones that do are ridiculously expensive. In 5 years you won't be able to give outboards away.
Nah.theyve said that about all kinda stuff,the internal combustion engine aint going anywhere soon.
what all is included in your hull weights ? i realize they are approximate but is that the finished bare bones boat minus any addons like seats engines fuel tanks floors cabins and such ?
Yes, but it typically includes floor (timbers? better google what "floors"means in boats.) and generally decks on larger hulls with raised decks.
Can u take a 35 allmand tri cabin sailboat and convert it to using a outboard...either in a made well or on a bracket ?
How ? We are looking at a Allmand has no engine and trying to figure out what to do to get this to work.
Starting to design a custom boat. I have ZERO experience. I am wanting it to be a hybrid Cat/Flatbottom Cabin Cruiser, Live Aboard size and weight. Need it to sleep Minimum of 5. Now that those outlandish parameters are set. I also want it to run on solar, and use electric motors for propulsion. I mention this as it will help frame out the over all weight of the boat. I would like a top on plane crusing speed to be about 30 Knots.
Now to the Question - What size electric motors do your recommend?
LOL. Well, you have started with one of the most difficult undertakings in boats, a high speed, live aboard, electric catamaran. You have to start off learning a LOT of things about hull design, strength, buoyancy and stability calculations, planing & drag powering calculations and lots more.
It's a bit like saying, I want to design a jet fighter to compete with an F-22 Raptor, with its speed and stealth, which engines should I use? I'd suggest starting by designing a Piper cub first, then moving through a lot of more sophisticated designs until you arrive at a high performance stealthy, supercruising fighter. It only took 40 years, 1000s of designs, and thousands of losses in battle in dozens of wars to get there.
@@tjkid07 I have since decided that the power efficiency to speed curve are to much to have that kind of speed on that size boat. I am going for much less maybe 15 knots, and then making a skiff for the higher speed needs.
I came across this trying to figure out if you can make a cape dory jnbord into an outboard.
What about jet drives ?
V-drive
Thought you may cover electric motors?
I think Jeff's boats would be very good for a diy inboard electric motor as they handle a lot of weight and don't need a lot of power. Electric motors have great torque capacity.
One last way to sink yiu know