Testing More Viral Woodworking TikTok Techniques
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- Опубликовано: 8 июн 2024
- I tested the most viral woodworking tiktoks sent to me by you guys! Some of these get ridiculous
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That pine looked like it had been soaked in water for awhile before he sliced it.
def looked soaked or steamed
or it was a wax coating
Looks like wax or glue to me.
It was cypress.
Something definitely not right with that cut.
Edit Edit: so apparently the planing championships don't do cross-grain planing like here, so the authenticity is still in question
Edit: apparently the thinly sliced wood isn't pine, but port orford cedar, notable for fine grain and good cross-grain strength, making such thin slices possible
I think the translucent layer in that tiktok might have been glue or other stuff they'd applied to the end and then just peeled off with the chisel.
I don't think wood like that has enough cross-grain integrity to hold together when cut to such thin sheets.
That was my first thought too
almost looked like wax
@@Grouchy_Hermit Wax coatings will still break apart if you shave them off.
It's a polyurethane or lacquer
@@ryanokeefe12 depends what wax
I think it’s wax too. Similar to what Rockler or Woodcraft would use in their small blocks to seal them.
Could he have wet the timber when he chiseled it, looks wet to me?
It maybe a stabilising resin too
It's definitely the wood and not the chisel. There is no way any dry wood on end grain would behave like that like in the original.
He had it treated with something. There was a sheen and the wood looks stabilized somehow for sure.
i was thinking it was wet as well
it's totally embedded in wax
For the "table saw lathe" one, *I* was fully puckered and I'm 1500 miles away and several days removed. You are a brave brave man, John Malecki.
Actually a pretty safe cut. Stumpy nubs tested it a bunch. Izzy swan was the first place I saw it. He has adapted it to make a variety of shapes.
@@hartman601 Izzi is the man
@@hartman601 whenever I’m doing, stumpy nubs for the final say 😂 he’s like my woodworking fact checker
@@hartman601 You can tell how long people have been on RUclips watching woodworking vids... Referencing 'I saw Izzy do that years ago' is definitely one of the ways.
@@hartman601 May be a pretty safe cut, just probably not quite how John did it lol
The wood for the end grain one looked like it was finished or had resin on it. I think he was shaving off something else there's no way end grain held together like that. You don't get ribbons from planning end grain right...
you can see the difference in color, it looks wet after it's "shaved"
I thought it was played in reverse at first
wax
Wax was my first thought also!
I believe it was probably green wood?
Tip on the bending: use the THINNEST possible blade in your arsenal, make cuts that are the same spacing as the cuts, lightly sand (or use angled cuts for the whole thing) each slice to a taper, and GENTLY bend backward to insert the glue, making sure there are NO voids. You may also want to use epoxy rather than glue. Do the whole project slow and gentle as the frills are Very delicate until sealed if done right
The bending one wouldn't need testing because that method of bending is used in acoustic guitar construction. That's how you attach the sides to the top and back.
I did some kerf bending on a cabinet project. Learned a few things on the way. Test cuts to determine ideal cut depth. If it snaps when you go to bend it, cut deeper. Be mindful that you are bending the long grain, especially if working with plywood. There are online calculators to help with ideal spacing. As I understand the math your total kerf through the bend should be the length difference between the inner and outer curve. Use a thin kerf blade for a smoother curve. Sand BEFORE you cut kerfs so you don't sand away your thin curve exterior. If the design can hold its shape and you don't cut too many kerfs, then glue isn't vital. The compression across the kerfs is actually pretty good at keeping the joint secure.
The best way in my opinion to do it is to use a 0 point 18 degree router bit. then do 5 passes. You also don't end up with any gaps when bending it.
(Table saw lathe) "There's nobody here in the shop who could rush me to the hospital. Let's do the sketchiest thing we can find on the internet..."
Cypress, not pine. It's a near perfect wood for doing super thin shavings. All the competitions using Japanese style planes do it on cypress
On the bending one you can just make thinner cuts, soak it a bit in hot water and mix that wood's sawdust with the glue to close the gaps then maybe round it over, or cover the edge with thin laminate. Great effort nontheless, it's always good to know even professionals don't always get it right the first time they try something, teaches any one starting their journey that it's not the end of the world when you mess up sometimes.
For the first one try a 1:1 water + alcohol mixture (vodka will work too) to soak the end grain. It definitely changes the process of end-grain planing and chiseling. Not sure about the paper-like single shaving though.
if i had to guess probably like a see through sticker or something that they just peeled off with the chsel to make it look like it was a paper thin slice
Yea, looks like wood glue to me. @@mrroboshadow
1st one is a scam you can see its a thin layer that isn't wood. Apply it to to end grain but it up to a pc of glass and let cure. Butter, wax in a solvent, pva might all work. Wax is a generic name for a range of materials it's not all brittle. Super soft plastic like crayton would probably work. (the plastic in gel candles)
Definitely wet the pine it makes a huge difference. They also may have used some green wood. With stuff like pine and fir if it's old or has been kiln dried the sap will have hardened making it more difficult to work. Thats part of why timberframers can peel off thin strips of wood when fitting the green fir beams.
Thank you for mentioning me!😄Good job on the joint👌👍 17:26
I think the person in the first video used glue on it, because the wood underneath the peel is shiny.
If you felt like re-trying the kerf bending one. Use your new finger joint indexing guide to have even spacing.
The first video is fake. It's probably a layer of glue. End grain pine will never stay together like that roll up and be almost transparent.
Agreed. I was also thinking it could be wax.
I think the bends were probably steamed first, even a simple handheld garment steamer maybe. Otherwise you would need truly perfect stock everytime, the tiniest grain difference could ruin pieces easily.
definitely would have helped to take the steamer to the non-cut side before bending/gluing. also would have done a lot more math to make the cuts more symmetrical and so each corner did 90 perfectly, but for a beginner attempt john did ok :)
Love that you explain how to do it, just seeing the videos doesn't necessarily give you all the info. Keep up the good work!
I wish I could be in your shop every day, we would always have fun. And I love woodworking. Thank you for sharing, sir. One love to all.
I had a 1950s craftsman radial arm saw and that thing was SO MUCH more terrifying than any anything else I ever used
i have did the corner cuts before. best way to get it perfect. is to build a jig. cut corners on top. and clamps and jig on bottom on a flat surface to make it square.
Always love your videos, glad to see one as it premiered while im up all night taking care of my sick kid
John... Not sure I would have had the intestinal fortitude to try the table saw lathe. I am going to do the finger joint one, it looks like something even i could do. But then again, you make everything look so easy. :-) Thank you for sharing!
@6:56 I just would like to mention this might be the reason for the failed curve is that you didn't do equal interchanging cuts on both sides of the board like it is shown in the video allowing it to be more flexible.
That finger joint jig looks so cool. I've only made a couple things woodworking like a coffee table and a bathroom cabinet. I really want to try that joint.
John that was great video love the finger/box joint explanation you did been looking do this for bit so thank u for the help on that!! Love the series hope u and the fam are good!! 🏴👍
Yes! Thank you for the explanation and walk through if finger joint
Paint the end grain with pva, when it dries it will be clear and easy to take a cellophane thick slice off it with a sharp chisel.
The Reolink cameras are a great option for people that don’t have great internet. Use a SD card for storage. You can still access them from the internet. Good video.
The finger joint technique is super awesome...I am going to try it
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For the kerf cutting, to eliminate the ugly gaps that are left showing, don't use a miter saw (or saw of any kind) but instead use a 6.2 Degree taper CNC bit in your router
this is smart. Thank you!
6.2deg? Only specific, most tapered endmills are in steps of 5, or 10 maybe 1 or 2 deg once you get to shallow tapers.
@@Volt64boltwith CNC bits it's not uncommon to find them with tapers specific down to the hundredth
@@RGun90 I take it you don’t mean those funky little half faced ‘engraving’ bits?
@@Volt64bolt def not the engraving bits, but professional TAPER bit. They arent cheap but they give that insane incremental level of options.
Japanese pine is not just pine, its an amazing quality wood. The chisel has its merit, but the wood takes the cake.
That first video with the chisel, he was cutting off WAX. LOL
You need to calculate the difference between the inner and outer radius of the kerf and then remove that amount of material by calculating how many cuts it’ll take with the kerf of your blade. That way, you’ll get a perfect 90 on the bend.
so it depends on a lot of things, blade width, wood thickness... probably sometimes planning before "just doing" will yield better results? :O
Oh, so you got the gist of it then?
Blocklayer is a site ive used for this kind of thing. they have a curf bending calculator. Its pretty nifty.
pretty sure its cedar coz when you watch japanese wood joinery house builds they plane it and it makes big long cuts that look like snake skin
Right. But that's done with Japanese planes and also cut with the length of the grain. The person in the video had the wood stabilized somehow I'm pretty sure.
I think its japense cedar too. Its for sure not pine haha i was stupid to think that when i tried
It's cypress. AKHIRA (the woodworker in the video) mentioned it in his comments.
You are the king epoxy and woodworking.
I never took wood shop in high school, I was in metal shop, so all these things are really neat. That finger joint was really neat.
What if he laid a thin layer of wood glue down and let it dry, then shaved it off?
That’s what I was thinking. Honestly I’m not a woodworker so I dunno but if I was trying to fake it that would be the first thing I’d try.
Could have been something like bee's wax, too.
That endgrain thing is for sure peeling off finish and not cutting wood
I think it could be Japanese cedar.
He for sure used wood glue on the end grain.. 100%
Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all
You're a quick thinker and entertaining and whoever edits these is hilarious!
I think the first one is a hoax, maybe a layer of wax over the endgrain and then he chiselled it off, dont think wood can behave like that
I think it was japanese cedar after it kicked my ass and i did some research haha
If you want to do the chisel trick you have to chisel off the rough end with the chisel first, once you chisel off the rough first layer it will be smooth enough to try it.
For the first end grain cut with a chisel, the technique to start the peel would be to keep one finger above the chisel and push the handle gently sideways so that you obtain a circular motion of the blade edge. This way, the angle of attack would be lower than the 25 or 30 degree on your chisel and prevent the split of the fibres.
That key joint was so awesome looking and so much surface area for glue. I bet it's insanely strong.
Awesome video John….it’s awesome to see some different ways to do wood working.
Dude, your chisels aren’t sharp enough
This is a brilliant chanell. I hate tool tick tocks and shorts, but i love seeing you verify them!
3:46 my childhood brain… “HIT SELECT BITCH!!! HIT SELECT!!” Mortal Kombat has been awesome for decades.
Excellent work, John! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
You need a good Starwars "Its working. It's working!!" in here every once in a while
For the kerf bending, I've seen a video where someone used a steep angle v bit to cut the kerfs, so when folded there were no gaps in the side grain
OH!!!! Good idea!
Shout out to my favorite RUclipsr John Malecki for entertaining the masses again with just another great video!
Love the finger joint.
The wood was wet and the chisel sharp that's the trick, the wood looks like hinoki cypress, i can get a complete shaving with my kanna on the end grain. And the water trick is used when planeing wood with knots.
Great stuff John!!!
Keep up the great craftsmanship and hard work John. Fab On. Weld On. Keep Making. Stay squirrely. God bless.
I love the David Blaine spoof gif that’s a deep cut 😂
The cool pary about the dowels is you can make arches also almost any sìze we made them 36 inch arch by useing the dowel idea only not spinning it.
Great content as usual, I was thinking if you need ideas for content what about an "ask John" segment where people write in questions on how to do stuff? Like how do you cut on round stock or dowels as in making bookends with a cutout that mates up to the other bookend to make a heart or a star?
I had NO IDEA this crazy yinzer was so close! Came for the epoxy vids and stayed for the unboxing/pallet vids.
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The fake David Blaine add-in clips were hilarious!!! Totally forgot about those videos
To make the bent wood with the kerf, if you use a tapered router bit, you eliminate the open spots at the bottom of the cut when it’s folded. Being your saw blade makes a rectangular kerf, you’re left with a triangular gap once you bend it. The tapered router bit fixes that
What's the smallest tapered bit available?
@@darrinlindsey I don’t know the smallest made but a quick google search, I saw a 6.2 degree with a 1/64 tip. But you’d have to figure out what angle based on how many kerfs you want to make. To obtuse of a bit and you’d still have gaps or you’d go past the desired bent angle. To acute and you’d need more cuts. There’s a video on RUclips about it
@@darrinlindsey not sure on the smallest but i believe if you space out the cuts according to the bit you have, it works with any angle.
I wish all the people saying the first video is fake would try to recreate whatever ridiculous things they are suggesting and record it. It's real wood, end grain Japanese cypress wet with some added water ( not soaked, not green wood, not steamed) and a sharp 36mm chisel. The setup is probably harder than the actual cutting because the guide block needs to be perfect for these results. It isn't glue, tape, wax, wax paper, polyurethane, shellac, glued on paper, resin, or anything else but wood and some water. The type of wood is the most difficult thing to get but spreading some hand tool knowledge feels like it is desperately needed here.
Ya, as good a theory as mine...or better but I have been at this woodworking thing for over 60 years but you can always learn new tricks.😅
That wood they cut the paper thin sliver from was definitely moistened on the end, not plain
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Hey with the sharp chisel trick is to put sparkling water and pour it on the end grain
I like the hand router. I haven’t used one of those in years.
tip for the box with the round edges there is a callculater on the internet to get the radius that u want
Looks great.
Cool video thanks for sharing
You can use a tapered router bit (like the kind for a CNC) instead of the miter saw so that the ends all meet up on all ends. Requires a ton more prep and math, but it's WAY cleaner.
It's been long enough to pull the curtain back on the 126 million view paper thin chisel strip. Ever put rubber cement on your hand as a kid and peal it off in one piece? The see through wafer was not wood but a VERY well set and cured layer of clear silicone :)
You can use the table saw finger jig to cut slits in your wood cabinet piece and get proper deep slots, the trick for that one is to get the slots deep into the wood so it almost reaches the outside flexible wooden sheet part of the wood boards and you can get the radius of the furniture without any troubles.
At 17:19 "its a good looking joint". Yes, but not a joint that I should recommend someone to smoke 🚭🤣
an idea i think you should do is putting glass rocks in a river table and led lights i think it whould look relly cool🥰
Fun to watch.
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That was a lot of fun to watch
hey guys this video isnt actualy fake, he has other videos of him using chisels at other angles, japanese chizzels can hold high angles 25 degrees is standard with the high rockwell they will retain an edge, the wood used is Japanese hinoki (cypress). I bet i can do this myself with spruce
I did it with an Irwin chisel and a piece of basswood. You can't convince the hundreds of people that have said it is wax or finish or glue.
Hi John, I saw this video, he uses a table saw to round out a block. He made a way better jig for the saw, start the video at 12:28 for the jig. Love your content!
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2:18 - Old mate on the left has his wood around the wrong way. This is why attention to detail is ESSENTIAL in all craftsmanship. Making such a horrific error led to him failing to make the cut, literally. Nah, tbh I suspect it was soaked in water for a while beforehand it looks waterlogged. But seriously, get your grain running the right way around when you try it and see the difference.
You know that bendy thing would make a very cool raised bed
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The pine was probably soaked in oil, plus it looks like you're using Douglas fir, a notoriously splintery and tough "softwood."
I'm pretty sure Izzy Swan made the lathe table saw thing popular and relatively safe
Good stuff!
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I made the same box joint jig but for my table saw sled.
that bending trick is something they do in car audio a lot usually do it on the table saw
I like how realistic the struggle of recreating viral hacks was.
Fun fact where i come from we call the tool he used to clear the bottom of that joint at the end a 'granny tooth' because the blade looks like a single sharp tooth like a old granny would have😅
Going to do the finger joints on one of my shop draws just to practice them 😊
You not only sharpen your chisel in the exact right angle you need to polish it too.
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So hey I saw your not using that cricut up there I would love to use it if it's just collecting dust!! Love love love the videos!! ❤❤❤
I really appreciate the "Cheezits" David Blaine parody sketch quick insert during the curved cut part.
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