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Not What I Expected - Squier Affinity VS Fender American Professional - Tele Deluxe Tone Comparison
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Let's compare tones between the Squier Affinity Telecaster Deluxe & the Fender American Professional Telecaster Deluxe
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1:43 - Clean tones
4:25 Dirty tones
7:12 - the Results
7:53 - Why didn't I do that other guitar?
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Let's compare tones between the Squier Affinity Telecaster Deluxe & the Fender American Professional Telecaster Deluxe
Timestamps:
0:00 - What we've got here is
1:43 - Clean tones
4:25 Dirty tones
7:12 - the Results
7:53 - Why didn't I do that other guitar?
The next comparison needs to be the Squier Affinity Deluxe vs a Murphy Labs les paul
Yep, I had Y as the Squier, simply because X sounded more 'airy' or articulate, not so 'in yer face' as Y. Yes, you can tell there's a price difference, but 5 times the price?...China (?) are producing some seriously good guitars, it cannot be denied, I mean $300 vs $1500, I do not hear $1200 worth of difference.
Agreed!
This is a great example of the overwhelming importance of a great amp over a more expensive guitar.
yes!
Biggest mistake I made was buying good guitars, but cheaper amps! Absolutely a major priority. That’s why all these RUclips channels play a $100 guitar through a $2,500 rig! Makes quite a difference. That’s lowballing the price!
The amp and setup lacked you say ? must be. I thought Y was a bit more lively and thus the expensive American, I was wrong. Phil McKnight has a Glarry Video with him playing an American Professional. Very good comparison, must be because of digital processing.
Just ordered a Squire Tele Deluxe, and am glad I did now.
Ok… I’m blown away! Didn’t expect guitar Y to sound like that. In my opinion, so much better than guitar X. Wow…
Sound is one thing, but there are so many other considerations. Hardware and electronics quality, tuning stability, alignment of the strings over the neck. I’ve owned “inexpensive” guitars, Indo PRS, and Squiers, ( bought online!)and gotten rid of them because of shortcomings in these areas. And being somewhat of a hack player, I lack the talent needed to overcome these issues. Granted, made in USA is no guarantee of perfection, but I think by and large, the quality is superior. Worth 5x more? Well, if the inexpensive one has one or more of the issues listed above, I’d have to say yes.
Nevermind! Just watched a Phil McNight unboxing of the American Professional Tele Deluxe, and it was a piece of crap! Can’t depend on anything, or anyone anymore.
X was obviously the Fender. Y was obviously the Squier Affinity. But they were closer than I was expecting them to be - particularly on the clean tones. The Fender had more clarity punch and presence. The Squier Affinity was louder but muddy and harder to make out the notes both separately and in the chords. But I'd be very interested to hear the Affinity with some decent (not necessarily expensive) Alnico lower output humbuckers with better clarity/definition and see how much the difference between the two guitars reduces...I'm sure for not too much money this could be achieved.....
I got a Fender telecaster HH and found the same problem so I swapped the fender pickups for alnico 5 with nickel covers and got the validity back
Or you can got straight to the Squier telecaster deluxe Classic Vibe, eyes closed, believe me...
@@gregb2964 I have been tempted but ABSOLUTELY HATE the gloss necks on the Classic Vibe series. If you sand it down then your invalidate your warranty if you have bought the guitar new.
@@mikenorman6697 you're right, I sanded the neck on the 50's CV strat and I kept it glossy on my 50's CV Tele and 70'S CV Tele Deluxe, I can feel the differnce but it is not a so big issue
@@MrRafaztar should have swapped out your speaker
Man, it's close! My guess at half way through: fender is Y, based on clean bridge pickup detail.
I'd be more likely to buy the Squier on price, and I don't think I'd even swap out the pickups.
Edit at end:
Oh wow! Ok. Wow.
You're the best comparo man on RUclips with so many people world wide considering Squiers not only just as a first guitar these days. Brilliant marketing by Fender to improving it's lesser branding to capture the by far biggest market and price point.
I couldn't choose which was which both sounded great
I knew Y was the Squier straight away due to it's pickups being hotter. But yeah, they were ballpark similar otherwise. On an album or live no-one would really flinch. I think the 5x cost is more about the quality and durability of the instrument (and is totally worth it). All my cheap Squiers have had input jacks, selector switches, other wiring go bung over time. Never had a Classic Vibe level Squier though.
I listened to both guitars, though the Squier has a slightly shallower body, there was no real difference in the tones of both side by side, a bit of a disappointment considering the US Fender was five times the price. The Affinity would be the best choice unless you are a brand snob
Well put and probably the weight that tipped my scale… I’ve been really wanting a deluxe. Now it’s affinity or classic vibe.. love my Squiers
There’s a lot more to the differences besides tone. Time can be had cheap but fit and finish and quality hardware and electronics go a long way. American fenders are hard to beat.
The Affinity sounded quite good and I wonder how the Classic Vibe telecaster deluxe $619 CAD would do against the fender MIM which at present is $1239 CAD.
In the process of changing the Squier into a custom and changing the bridge to a Telecaster single coil .. with new pots and caps...that's the great thing about this guitar with 2 vol 2 tone .. that it can be converted easily..well semi-easy lol.. still a lot of work.. great video BTW !
have fun!
Just couldn't tell which was which 😮
New Tele Pro look like wide range pups but sound like regular hbs. This comparison shows why if you're playing distorted all the time a cheap guitar will be fine, you only need the more expensive pups for clean articulation. That natural finish looks sweet.
In cleans Fender is brighter, the Squier sounds more crunchy, with distortion the Fender sounds excellent, but the Squier sounds a bit muddy, like the notes are lost in the distortion but just a bit. I knew the x was the Fender principally for the cleans, I ordered a Squier Affinity Tele deluxe and I'm happy, I like a lot of genres but I really like metal, it'll work.
I almost think you need to do these challenges on a small inexpensive amp. Like you said in the Squier thing. EVERYTHING sounds good on the Princeton. The moral of the story to me is buy Squiers and a Princeton.
The smart move has always been, for the home player at least, to put more money into the amp than the guitar.
@@I.M.Guitar-Nerd If that were the conventional wisdom more guitar channels would be doing more about amps.
I'd say that should be the moral of most demos. Get a really good amp so most guitars will sound good.
@@DaringDan Think of it this way; how good is a Murphy Labs Les Paul going to sound through a $99 Fender Frontman? Not very good. But if you take a $99 Glarry and run it through Fender Princeton, it's probably going to sound pretty good.
For the home player, you will get better tone from spending more on a better amp than you will on a better guitar.
@@I.M.Guitar-Nerd We're in complete agreement. It's not the conventional wisdom of youttube channels is my point and it's not what the layman learns. Guitars are presented as the factor. And as you and I agree, they actually aren't when it comes to electrics. My first post LITERALLY says "The moral of the story to me is buy Squiers and a Princeton."
I found myself liking guitar Y but didn’t really have a clue on which it was. It’s all preference and if it happens to be more or less expensive, it just is.
I was wrong. That Affinity sounds awesome, and love the Hail, Hail riff!
I like these with the regular headstocks
I’m assuming that Y was the less expensive guitar based on it being a little less articulate with distortion.
Especially in the clean tones.
I've been a musician for over 50yrs and, I could not tell the difference. Definitely can tell you for bucks spent I'd go with the Squier.
I just pulled the trigger on a black affinity deluxe. That's TWO guitars you talked me into!
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I was right. I thought x had less output and more clarity, and the y had more output and was slightly "muddy". Therefore making y the squier because they do high output typically. I was pretty amazed how much these two sounded alike
thanks for spoiling the comparison....I got the answer from you before I heard the video.....i
X sounded like it had more growl in the low notes than Y. Y had bright sounding highs. Not a huge fender guy but it seemed like a dead give away on the dirt settings. Thanks for the comparison Landon.
X sounds so clean and nice. Y sounds muddy. X is the fender and y the squire. For a beginner definitely get an affinity
I got them right, but I secretly wanted to be wrong. The spikiness of the Squier pickups gave it away, but they don't sound bad! And true WR pickups just have their own sound, kinda like mini humbuckers but more mid scooped. I would have no qualms buying the Squier. Cheap enough to swap PUS, hardware and electro-guts and still have money left over.
Sounds like a plan!
I think you can recognise the Affinity right from the start .The sound with a clean neck pickup is brighter and not as fat as the first guitar.But ,man,the difference between the two guitares is so small!
I got them wrong but Im not surprised because they sounded so similar. If the Tele Deluxe was my favorite guitar type I would get the Fender, but if I was buying to round out a collection and get new sounds the Squire is the way to go.
Got it correct. It seemed like there was more clarity and brightness in the fender(x). The squier(y) was a little darker and less defined. Seemed slightly out of tune.
they sounded so close I didn't bother guessing it. yes, the fender was slightly clearer, but s little idc. What this did to me though is made me gas for a classic vibe one of these, since it should be of higher quality and still sound awesome
What's everybody talking about. They both sounded EXACTLY the same. I think people differences has more to do with preconceived notions of how a Squier is not going to sound as good as a Fender at 5 times the price. I have the Squier Burgundy Mist arriving today. Technically, I am not blown away by the way either of them sounds, but then again, I am not controlling the settings. I have intentions of being able to drop a nice set of humbuckers in there. Oddly enough the Squier has the stock humbucker configurations to allow an easy swap. Maybe a set of humbuckers with coil split capabilities, and individual volume or tone knob splitting so any combination is possible? I'll have to go look at what Breja Toneworks has with an HH wiring options.
Got 'em right! I liked the Fender a lot. But as I just mentioned in a comment on your deep dive on the Affinity, that's what I ordered! I'm sure I'll be totally happy. I think in the direct comparison the Affinity was a wee bit muddy by comparison. I bet I can clean that up, if not with the tone control, then with a bit of fiddling with the amp.
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I could hear it.. there is a difference idk how much that difference makes to most .depends on many factors i have American Fenders , i have a japanese Squier..i have MIM ..i play them all.
Let's be honest, the shawbuckers are very average anyway. Fender are yet to make (exluding the original widerange humbuckers) a truly nice sounding humbucker. Plus on top of that, Squier is really upping their game. I just bought an affinty jazzmaster and I can't fault it. For $250 it's absolutely incredible.
Well said!
Affinity humbucker guitars are an AMAZING value. They sound great! I have 1 Fender ProTele (single coils), and FIVE Squier Tele's, from single coils to humbuckers, and I love them all. Thanks for the video. It shows that you don't have to spend a lot of money to have a great guitar. Heck, one of my favorite Tele's is a Squier bullet. You just can't beat a good Tele!
Tele!
This was a funny comparison. The editing cracks me up!
Guessed right but it was closer than i thought it would be. But i reckon ALL the difference is in the pickups not the rest of the guitar. Actually that would be a great experiment! Switch their pickups and run it back!
They're different sized so that's not possible.
Was wrong, thought the neck pickup on clean on the squier sounded less bassy and therefore less muddy so I thought the squier was the fender
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Great compare. They’re not real wide range pickups in the fender are they?
I guessed right! And I was rooting for the Squier. To be fair though, I thought the Squier sounded really good clean, but the fender kind of muddy. But with drive little difference. The Squier had more mid range the fender a little scooped.
I’m sold on the affinity
they are Shawbuckers in the Fender
Damn, I picked Y every time😅 really impressed with the Squier, it sounded absolutely beautiful to me
I had them wrong. I thought guitar y had more note definition and was more chimey when played clean, and was a bit darker played dirty, but retained the note separation. To my ears the squier sounded better.
I guessed right! The Fender Tele had more clarity. But I just order the same Squier Tele today partly because this video showed that there isn't that much difference between the two.
I liked Y and found it funny how the dirt made it even less differentiating. Well done Squier, well done Landon.
However another aspect beside the sound is how it feels, how it plays, how is the neck and frets.
Close but clear difference, having a good amp certainly makes them both shine
A good amp is key for sure!
Good video they were so close I REALLY HONESTLY could not tell the difference.
X Affinity by Fender Squire Telecaster
Y The Expensive Fender American Professional Telecaster
I want to buy something this month, it’s Fender Month at L&M... BUT what ?
Help, I do NOT have a Telecaster in my collection.
And, I WANT to but something under $500 Canadian.
They're very close, but I guessed guitar Y was the Squier because of the ceramic humbuckers w/a slightly hotter output. They're closer than I expected tho, but a Princeton reverb can make just about anything sound good imho.
ya the Princeton is pretty great
I liked the sound of Guitar X for the most part. I wanted the affinity to do better because I almost never will buy guitars that are so expensive. I think X sounded better to my ears, but don’t know if it’s that much better.
I got them wrong! Yeah, that's a good job on Squier's part!
Picks right, but I liked the squire equally in different positions. Hail Hail! The PJ on the Fender was Nice!! Liked it on the Fender!
I think you were the first to catch the Hail Hail :)
Love the blind X/Y testing.
This is just me, but...a tele isn't a tele if it has one or more humbuckers on it. Having said that, for the money, the Squier for the win, hands down!! Cheers! :)
that's right it's a Tele Deluxe! 😆
@@landonbailey It (they) may be called "Deluxe," but should be called anything but a tele!! Cheers!! :)
Landon should check out the Fender Telecaster FMT custom HH if he hasn't already. I just got it last week and it's a blast to play and very versatile.
I have one of those in spalted maple and it is my favourite guitar,absolute joy to play.
Fender American for me , no contest. I've had both and sold my Affinity. Both the quality and sound for me was extremely noticeable.
You had the updated 2021 model??
Thanks for this comparison. My ears are still good. I knew which one was which but I could tell the difference more with the over driven Bridge pickup demo.
Thanks for watching!
I know I’m late here but the biggest give away for me was that the squier was out of tune needs to be intonated as they always are. They are great for the money but having learned on a squier myself I would never recommend one for a beginner because you’ll always feel like you suck and be discouraged when really the guitar is just always off- at least in my experience. You’re paying for tuning stability and clarity with the fender and they’re worth it IMO. Great video!
Sounds aside, is there a 5x price difference in the feel?
Does the Squier one come 'well' set up, or 'ok' set up, like a Player?
ie.. with a few hours fettling, will an Affinity feel nicer than its price point..?
I just purchased a Squier Deluxe, and it came out of the box perfectly setup, and plays just great. I have. an American standard Strat from 1984, and another affinity single coil tele. The first affinity tele is a nice guitar, but needed a lot of setup and some fret work. The new deluxe plays as well as my Strat, an amazing value. The feel of the neck is really awesome.
They say playing a Squire Affinity is like riding a moped. It's all fun until your friends see you playing it.
they lie!
lol I love how funny you were at the end
I got them right,but there is no big difference in sounds to me, maybe the finishing is the main issue.
I just ordered my Affinity version, today. For the money, why not? I also want the Jazzmaster, in the Placid Blue, which it looks like you also have, back there.Thanks!
Preferred the Squire. Good news for me.
I have such Squire model so I had had the answer from the 1st minute of test. Mine sounds absolutely similar and I love it
I got it right also.
Got it right. Neck pick on Y very muddy, but both bridge pickups similar. Y maybe a touch brighter. X was the winner over all.
Nice work with the video. Squier wins hands down, with the money I save i can buy more gear!
Good choice!
X had to be the Fender. The clarity was really good and it had a manageable output. Y is the Squire. The put put was hot and it didn't quite have the clarity as X. All in all, that is an Amazing guitar. If I had the money right now, I would buy that Squire hands down.
As usual...... I wish they made the Squire in lefty
Got it right😊 my question for Landon is did you adjust the settings at all between each guitar?
For instance I do have an affinity telecaster and if I switch between that and say my gretsch with filtertrons the output is so different i have to increase the gain and play with other settings to compensate.
I had the Squier as Y, it sounded a little brighter and a touch more clear than X did...
I'm commenting and watching before it's over and I prefer guitar X
Let's see if I'm am idiot or what lmao. I think guitar Y has hotter brighter pickups and X seems more controlled and darker. Again I know nothing just an opinion from average Joe
This is totally nuts, I was so sure, Y was the Fender becsuse the sound had so much more transparency and high end.
I was thinking "comparing ghose wide range PUs to conventional humbuckers is not fair".
Actually those cheap Squier humbuckers seem to have a much flater frequency response than the Fender wide range PUs.
And the whole guitar sounds better to me. Unbelievable!
the Fender Deluxe has Shawbuckers
@@landonbailey Oh, didn't know that. That explains the more lowmid focused sound.
The same here. I liked Y more and I was sure that was the Fender. Thank you
Guessed it right. Squier is a little bit louder. Fender got more balanced and consistent tone.
The Princeton won this one, made both guitars sound great. I know this because I guessed completely wrong.
That wasn’t easy but I got it correct, bridge pickup made the difference for me
I had guessed that the Fender Tele was Guitar X. They both sound very similar and if they weren't played one after the other, it would be hard to tell, I think. Though, the Fender seemed to be a little clearer in tone. Both sounded good, though. Thanks for the video.
I found that guitar Y was a little more sparkly and clear which I liked, so I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was the affinity!
Honestly, kinda blown away, that was tough! Got it right, though it was tricky!
The clean tone sounded very close. For the distorted tone, the Squire sounded more noisy.
Have you looked at the Classic vibe Esquire yet? It looks like the switch is the same as the original Fender.
I haven't tried one yet. I should!
In my headphones X really wasn’t that close to Y. Y seemed less distinct and clear and a little shrill and lacking depth. But not “bad”. I’d be stoked to have the Affinity. But I do think for slightly more money , the Classic Vibe option outshines it. Although what a beautiful looking instrument!
you playing street spirit (and how good it sounded) sold me on these
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I found a fucking blue frost tele+ with the lace sensors and all from 1992 on reverb for 1300 a year or two ago. And thank God I was just lurking. I bought that shit 10 minutes after I was posted , dude didn't know what he had, or thought that the chip in the paint/lacquer that looked almost like it was intentionally reliced but was genuine Roadwear somehow brought down the value of the guitar
HeyLando, I’ve been on the market for a humbucker guitar for a while now. Not a les Paul or sg fan, so these interest me. I’m a strat player and I’m wondering if either the full fat fender or the squire 2xhumbuk tele will satisfy my needs for a heavier blues/rock axe. Thoughts man?
I guessed right but I preferred the affinity...
i got it right. fender's clean is second to none.
(I am posting this blind, without reading any of the comments, and during the tone test) Guitar Y is definitely the Professional, and Guitar X is definitely the Squier Affinity.
I wish I could find a Tele Squier Affinity in Brazil... I'll keep searching
what brands are available?
Tele style with 2 humbuckers only Tagima T850. You'll find Classic vibe and Fenders but the economy is bad right now and these are costing as much as a car. Classic teles we have Michael, Strinberg and SX
Playing the guitar may not be too useful, because playing styles change, people play different, people get better or worse, and hearing something once is not enough to give an idea of what the pickup will sound like in the future.
A better measure would be to measure the inductance of the pickup, and compare it to pickups widely known to be good. For example, the Gibson PAF's have an inductance of 4.4uh with ALNICO pickups. If the Affinity also has the same, the guitars will likely sound the same (hopefully, the American will have better frets etc...)
These sounded near identical, with Y having ever so slightly more brightness. But both have pretty dark pickups, so the Y is still very dark.
I didn’t know which one was a Fender and actually didn’t care. Not the sound I search for, for both of these :)
Nice video, I would like to know volume and tone settings on guitars, amp and pedal order and settings. I know it has been over a year since you made this, but you know, ballpark settings. I believe there is finesse in getting the right tone and yours is always good. Thanks
I got it wrong because I thought the clean channel was more clear on Y
Curiously I preferred X clean on single pickup, slightly better clarity, but Y clean combined. Dunno why I preferred Y combined though.
Dirt I wasn't really fussed either way on singles, but marginally Y on combined.
I didn't bother guessing which was which. It only matters which one I'd prefer. But I'd have to figure out what pup combos I want to use first. Lol.
Incidentally, your graphics say clean at 7:00 when they probably meant dirty.
Y! More separation between strings and a slightly higher output and pronounced tone. Cheaper guitar wins! Squires rule. ( I just snagged one for $200 bucks, used on eBay, so I may be slightly biased. )
Got’em!! Ceramic touch was clear to me✨
very similar. I guessed right, but very hard to distinguish difference. Slightly more warmish on the American Fender for clean tones, but also more dirty in the dirt channel
I got x and y correct Landon, surprised!!!!
Nice video! And what about a Squier Classic Vibe 50 against a Mexican Fender Strat? Cheers!
let me know
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YAS, the video I had been waiting for! 👍🏻
I thought the y was that of the American fender model because when I listen with very good earphones the sound seems better defined, so the squier is definitely a very good guitar, at this price it's madness 😵