Stacking Mexican Silver Volume 4B: 1980 to The Present

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июл 2023
  • Part B of this two-part video on modern Mexican silver pieces explores in depth the exciting prototype of modern silver bullion coin: the 1978-1980 silver "Onza". Then we'll shift into overdrive along with the Mexico Mint as they gear up and release the first true modern .999 silver troy ounce legal tender coin that started it all: The Libertad
    We'll dive into the context of these early pieces, we'll look at their purity standards, their importance, and their impact on the modern bullion world they helped to create.
    In this video, I mention how I was recently presented with the opportunity to rotate out of vintage Engelhard bars into an unopened roll of vintage Libertads. Check out that video here as I weigh that decision and come to a conclusion:
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Комментарии • 61

  • @williamfender661
    @williamfender661 9 месяцев назад +6

    Just started buying libertads this year. Bought my first 5 ounce libertad and I was hooked. So far I have bought 5 5 ouncers, 5 2 ouncers, 3 1 ouncers and 4 1/2 ouncers. The kilo is a crazy price. I actually sold some of my undesirable silver and traded up for the libertads. I will definitely have to have some proof versions.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  9 месяцев назад +2

      Whoa! That's a lot of libertads!

    • @trock6921
      @trock6921 6 месяцев назад +1

      Started buying Libertads this year myself. Bought proofs for all the mintages this year except the 2023 2 and 5 oz

  • @jonathancrocker366
    @jonathancrocker366 Месяц назад +1

    Just bought my first "graded" 1979 Mexican Mo Onza PCGS MS66. The toning is absolutely stunning. I've got tons of Mexican silver raw... but now, I've started collecting various graded Mexican silver to add to the graded Libertads I already have. Mexico silver is so cool. There's a certain mystique about it. When I think of lost treasure chests, I think Mexican silver. I will continue to add Mex silver to my stacking and collecting for as long as I'm able.
    THANKS FOR THE INFO, brother!

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Месяц назад

      Congrats! I think these have long term potential, too. And I agree about the mystique of Mexican silver. There's just something about it!

  • @bradleyozbun1012
    @bradleyozbun1012 2 месяца назад

    💯 on the info/ history of Libertad

  • @birdsherbsadventures3014
    @birdsherbsadventures3014 9 месяцев назад +1

    Love my Mexican vintage, your video was incredibly informative, interesting, and entertaining. Thanks for sharing !!

  • @jasonking7729
    @jasonking7729 Год назад +2

    Great info boss! Thanks!

  • @theresnotoolinthispool857
    @theresnotoolinthispool857 11 месяцев назад +1

    These coins are so beautiful wow. Awesome stack!

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  11 месяцев назад

      I really appreciate it. Anyone can do it, it just takes time :)

  • @vancebradler1717
    @vancebradler1717 Год назад +1

    Great content

  • @fastwest433
    @fastwest433 Год назад +3

    Another great video!
    Just to add, and correct me if I’m wrong…:
    1982 Libertads actually didn’t come out until 84
    91 libertad had 2 types. Type 2 being much more rare.
    99 libertad had a mule with the wrong obverse. Pretty rare.
    Edited for spelling….

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад +1

      Thank you! Yes, I think you are correct about the delay. But I seemed to recall it was mid- to late 1983. Long time ago, so I'm probably wrong. Some really fascinating types with the Libertad series. I'm afraid to get too far into the types and overstrikes and doubling because that would shift me from "stacker" to "collector" of these pieces. And I like the Mexican bullion pieces too much as a stacking vehicle to get too deep into collecting them!

  • @danganz8153
    @danganz8153 Год назад +2

    very informative, thanx Whyrecross

  • @kellyvansant4007
    @kellyvansant4007 Год назад +2

    Professor WhyteCross,, thanks for the lesson!

  • @LegacyStacker
    @LegacyStacker Год назад +2

    Hi WhyteCross Precious Metals and Numismatics! I've subscribed to your channel! Nice video content! 😎

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      Hey thanks! Love your encouraging the next generation!

  • @manuelmiranda726
    @manuelmiranda726 2 месяца назад

    Great information

  • @Eli-qr9hc
    @Eli-qr9hc 10 месяцев назад

    Good topic and options. Liked and sub’d.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  10 месяцев назад

      Thanks! Really appreciate it!!

  • @michaelbuckley6710
    @michaelbuckley6710 7 месяцев назад +1

    Just ordered 3 1985 Onza/Libertads for my collection today!

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  7 месяцев назад

      Awesome! How can you not like the older libertads?

  • @andrewkolb6309
    @andrewkolb6309 Год назад +1

    Wow you have a lot of Mexican Silver coins and rounds keep on stacking them

  • @johnkratz2476
    @johnkratz2476 Год назад +1

    Those vintage coin tubes may be scarce, but there are 43mm coin tubes readily available if you google it. Alternatively, perhaps a tube designed for coins in capsules would work as well.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      Great! If you've got a link please share!

  • @leftythunder
    @leftythunder Год назад

    You remind me of SilverfishVT. Anyways, 10/10 content. I subbed.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      Hey that's neat. I appreciate the comments and the sub!!

  • @bill4572
    @bill4572 10 месяцев назад

    Like the older Mexican silver

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  10 месяцев назад

      Me too! Big handfuls!

  • @michaelbuckley6710
    @michaelbuckley6710 Год назад +1

    Are you going to ever open those "Shotgun" wrapped rolls ?
    Each coin could be very valuable !

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      No. Alone the coins are "worth" maybe $40 each. In the roll, unopened, they sell for $60 to $70 each--sometimes more. And every day, another roll gets broken open (attrition), leaving fewer and fewer unopened rolls.

  • @Evom777
    @Evom777 Год назад +1

    I'd rather have one Libertad shotgun roll and one Engelhard 10oz bar in its original flip than two of each.😉

  • @erics4066
    @erics4066 5 месяцев назад

    Great presentation about Mexican silver coinage! Years ago, I purchased a 1986 roll of Libertads ; it came in its original box with the tube roll inside. The box is worn, but is complete. I've left it as I got it. Opening the box to look at roll more closely, seemed like sacrilege, in a way. I have had it about 21 years. What would a unopened box & roll be worth as opposed to 20 BU Libertads in a modern tube? Curious!
    P.S. I think the older Winged Victory is the more beautiful rendition!

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  5 месяцев назад

      Hey that's very cool! I don't know if I've ever seen any kind of original box for a Libertad roll. Is it a shipping/cardboard box, or is it more of a presentation type box? Sealed rolls of 1986 libertads have sold recently on eBay for $700 to $730--or about $35 for each coin. If the box is interesting, made of wood, etc. and is actually a mint box, I would guess it would add another $50 to $100.

  • @threetoesstacker3725
    @threetoesstacker3725 Год назад +1

    I was lucky to add a roll of 84s to my stack 😊

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад +1

      That's AWESOME. And in just a few months, they'll be 40 YEARS OLD!

    • @martin-fc4kk
      @martin-fc4kk Месяц назад

      wow, i am searching for one too

  • @paulswickard2656
    @paulswickard2656 Год назад

    That 69 dcam is wild!

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад +1

      Crazy, right?

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      I see that there is a PCGS 69DCAM on ebay right now:
      www.ebay.com/itm/325704250613?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=rHSTxMMoRiK&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=flIQ9TpkS7K&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

  • @Eli-qr9hc
    @Eli-qr9hc 10 месяцев назад

    In todays spot, what would you consider a good price for the onza?

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  10 месяцев назад

      It's really dependent on where you are. If I can find nice uncirculated examples for less than $5 over spot, I'd probably buy them.

  • @michaelbuckley6710
    @michaelbuckley6710 Год назад

    1949 or 1978,1978, 1980 onza would you suggest purchasing.
    I was looking at them Friday night.
    As a collector maybe a few of each ?

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      Funny you should ask. In my follow up video (Stacking Mexican Silver: WhyteCross' Choice) I'll talk about my 5 top picks from the entire Stacking Mexican series. Hint: One of them is the Onza, and I'll talk about why I think two of those dates are the best :)

  • @mafiawarsdad
    @mafiawarsdad Месяц назад +1

    Not sure this will get a response but I am hopeful. I have various Libertad's and all but one of them ring when they are pinged. I just recently bought a 1993 1OnZa it is marked LeY .999, it weighs correctly is not magnetic but does react as if it is diamagnetic but it does not ring when pinged. I bought it from a reputable online dealer who has offered to take it back but 1993 is one of my children's birth year and I would like to keep it for them. Is it common for that year to not ring when pinged? I do not own or know anyone who does own a Sigma Tester and usually am comfortable with making sure they weigh correctly, ping correctly and react as if diamagnetic. But this one not pinging makes me uncomfortable because I do not have a known good 1993 to test it against. I would appreciate it so much if this does get a response.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Месяц назад +1

      Hey @mafiawarsdad! Glad you're here. I see every comment and I try to respond if I can!
      I don't know of any counterfeit 1993 libertads. Doesn't mean they don't exist. But rather than shell out the $1000+ for a sigma, you might try a few other things. First, if the other libertads you have are the same style (they changed the style in 1996), compare the one that doesn't ping to one that does: GENTLY stack one on top of the other. You should be able to feel any difference in diameter with your fingers. If there is little to no difference, are they the same thickness? Finally, you can compare the weight. If you don't have a digital scale, check Amazon for a scale that measures to .01 grams (1/100th of a gram). There are several on sale right now for $10 or less. The 1993 libertad should weigh 31.1 grams. If it is the same diameter, thickness, and weight as the others, then there is a very good chance it is real. Let me know your results!

    • @mafiawarsdad
      @mafiawarsdad Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for the prompt reply! The coin matches the expected weight, thickness, and width. It also exhibits the expected diamagnetic properties. The only anomaly is the lack of a ringing sound when pinged.
      Ideally, I'd compare it to a verified 1993 Mexican coin, particularly from the same mintage series, to see if the sound is consistent. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to locate one yet.
      Luckily, I found someone in the area with a Sigma machine, and I'll be using it later this week for definitive testing. I'll definitely post back here with an update, especially if the coin is confirmed genuine despite the lack of pinging sound.
      Thanks,
      David Metcalf

  • @blueocean7761
    @blueocean7761 Год назад

    Hey, do you know how much a 2 Onzas Piedra de los Soles coin from 1993 is worth?

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад +1

      I've never had one myself. Mexico released several similar series of these smaller than and larger than a troy ounce pieces in the 1990s, IIRC. But I see that one of the 1993 2 ounce pieces in NGC PF68 cameo is on eBay right now for $474.95.

  • @konradv7
    @konradv7 Месяц назад

    If the Thaler was gold, that purity would be 20K.

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Месяц назад

      True (or really close to it). Strange how we don't ever see 20K gold in anything. 24K, 22K, then down to 18K. Great observation!

  • @LongLivedCoins
    @LongLivedCoins Год назад

    Doh just missed it 😖

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 Год назад

    Silver is running out forever By 2032 ,China's Underground silver Deposit will be fully depleted, leading to resource extinction. 9 years of silver left in China.
    By 2026 Mexico silver mining & reserves will be exhusted forever. By 2045 United States of America silver will be exhusted & reserves to.
    And Chile reserves will be run out by 2039 Poland silver reserves will run out by 2073 Peru silver reserves will run out by 2049

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      But in history when one resource has become exhausted, another is found with similar or sometimes even better attributes. If silver mines run out, it would be just as logical to think that would cause the price of silver to collapse--because it will no longer be used or in demand--than to assume that the price of silver will skyrocket. I choose to continue my same course of action: Long, stable acquisition of all precious metals as one part of my portfolio.

  • @user-ke4uu3mk3k
    @user-ke4uu3mk3k Год назад

    the most over rated and over priced bullion coin you can buy i stay well clear of them

    • @Dub-C_Coins
      @Dub-C_Coins  Год назад

      Really high premiums right now for sure. But what if you were to find them with a low premium? So much of buying well is being in the right place at the right time.