Oh sweet Helaena. I was LOL at her speech during dinner. You can hear Daemon chuckling in the background. She basically offered such a diss to her husband/brother LOL, it's so hilarious. And Otto was like 'Good!'--I think I can safely say Otto treats Helaena better than he did Alicent. He used Alicent as a pawn, with Helaena, he doesn't have to do this so he can freely be a grandfather to her....
We must take into account that, apart from being a mother, Alicent is also the queen, and well, she can't do everything. It's a lot of pressure and a lot of responsibility too.
The scene between Helaena and Jace always kills me. Shows what the future could have been if they were king and queen. I hope we get a scene between them on season 3.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER Don't think that's gonna happen because Jace dies before Rhaenyra invades Kings Landing and takes the throne. So that scene is the last scene we will see between the 2 of them
Those dreams are really nothing but a curse. It takes everything from this girl, for example. She never was able to make friends or socialise, simply due to seeing and knowing things she couldn't even understand yet. It'd be easier if it made her an omniscient, but her dreams only grant her very specific foresight on certain matters. When she's told by Alicent about the funeral procession, she doesn't even understand the whys of it all. She knows things before they happen, but that curse won't even let her participate in the real world long enough to understand the basics of her daily life. Then later, because of that, she even gaslights herself into thinking that she has no right to grief. Absolutely heartbreaking.
And according to the books, she goes crazy after Jaehaerys's death and jumps from a window until she falls on some spikes, dying instantly (or so I seem to remember, I didn't read the books jet) I don't know what will happen to her in the future.
Everyone is blaming Alicent for fucking uo her kids and maybe she did. Maybe they could do better but at least she was there. She had to act like both mother and father because that poor excuse of a king didn't. Yet the same people praise Viserys for being good father. No. You are not good parent if you are good to just one kid and others you leave neglected
@CommamderLongJhon If you think that Viserys Is a good person and a good father, let me tell you that he Is not. Only blame Alicent it's wrong, she doesn't have 100% the blame, Viserys has it too and much more than her
Who praised Viserys of being a good father? LOL. People who have eyes should know that he clearly was not that good of a father. Rhaenyra (his 'golden child') had a complex all her life thanks to Viserys and his 'goal' to have a son. To be fair, Viserys did treat her better than his spares (Aegon-Aemond-Daeron-Helaena)....he barely was present to be father to his 4 'spares.' But on the other hand, his condition also prevented him to do more for any of his children, only Rhaenyra, he did much more for, so I'm not surprised the rest of the children (Aegon-Aemond-etc) felt slighted and overlooked and had their own complex thanks to that. Add that with a mother who was more than happy to remind them that Rhaenyra will be a kinslayer and kill them due to their threat to her rule, that didn't make a great growing up...
Maybe I am petty, but if Cersei Lannister is solely to blame for Joffrey then Alicent should be treated the same way. She gets absolutely no sympathy from me. After a certain point she is consciously doing things she knew caused further damage but still did them because she was miserable. Not because she truly thought these things because if she did then she wouldn't look to have any relationship with Rhaenyra going forward, yet she does. Who wants to remain the friend of a woman she truly believes would murder her children?
Seriously, if ol' Vyssie kept her closer, he prolly would have heard her more often and figured out that she was 'Dragon-Day-Dreaming'. He, being all concerned with prophecies and destiny, woulda enjoyed that.
Viserys was never a good father, he had a preference towards Rhaenyra, he only loved her (or that's what it seems). So maybe that's why he never wanted to spend time with her or listen to her prophecies.
Yes, i understand that, but it doesn't mean that he Is a good person, father or king, you are not right if you think that. Viserys only loved Rhaenyra and that Is the truth, stop defending him
He was also 15+ years older when he had his kids with Alicent!!! Man was barely alive - by the time Rhaeynera was capable and he was failing in health, he and Alicent were having BABIES. Now I'm not saying Viserys is the best dad ever. Now OTTO HIGHTOWER however, pimping his daughter out to an old ass king just for power!!! He's the real shit as dad and reason for this war. OR had Alicent agreed to Helaena marrying Jace, their son would be Targaryen on both sides and would have made the dance an impossibility.
Alicent slowly understanding Helena and realizing she simply wants to play with her bugs in peace. Since they’ve changed a lot of her character I HOPE they keep her alive. I know she’s suppose to die due to her grief but I just want Helena to live a peaceful life away from everyone with her dragon. She deserves peace.
@@peydaee_ my comment keeps disappearing on my end so I’ll just comment it here *SPOILERS* Helaena apparently still dies by suicide but GRRM was expressing that her death is pointless because there’s no built up to it since Maelor doesn’t exist in the shows therefore blood and cheese didn’t have that much of an impact as he liked. He just had a lot of disagreements over the direction of the show and how the story is being adapted and changed.
@@SkylerAzula that lowkey makes no sense. Like what would be her reason. She already forgave herself and her mother for the death of her son. I see why he is upset.
@@KylewithaK she jumps off in the books, they might change it to push considering she has accepted her sons death which she doesnt in the books so there is a good chance she might be pushed off, however the pushing off theory was of her daughters not her
@@sxzz3480 Oh ok, I didn’t read the books. I got the vibe that aemond would push her off right before his battle with Daemon thinking he can change his fate
@@KylewithaK aemond would never however there is someone in my mind who will do it, anyways haelanas death is what probably causes the team black to lose so it will happen either way
Almost no one has recommended, asked or suggested me if I can make a video about something, so I really appreciate you did it. PS: I am not a native English speaker either, I am using the translator (I always do it)
@@RaEy22 it feels jarring a bit. Also including a little bit of the scene before she talks feels like it flows together and could extend your videos. Especially if it’s a conversation with her and other people. It’s just my opinion but I think either cut out all the silent parts and keep only her or include the sound and maybe even a little more of the scene to give context and get you back into the moment of the show. Hope it didn’t sound mean
Oh sweet Helaena. I was LOL at her speech during dinner. You can hear Daemon chuckling in the background. She basically offered such a diss to her husband/brother LOL, it's so hilarious. And Otto was like 'Good!'--I think I can safely say Otto treats Helaena better than he did Alicent. He used Alicent as a pawn, with Helaena, he doesn't have to do this so he can freely be a grandfather to her....
Helena is such a sweet heart among a crazy family. Pity her❤
Alicent looks beat when she’s trying to calm baby Helena
We must take into account that, apart from being a mother, Alicent is also the queen, and well, she can't do everything.
It's a lot of pressure and a lot of responsibility too.
@@RaEy22she might’ve had postpartum with Helena maybe even aegon too.
She was also a child
@@Cowboy_vvitchYes, she was so young
@@RaEy22then where was her so called husband! He should be there attending to his kids
HELAENA DANCED LIKE A HAPPY CHILD
She is gorgeous. She also deserves better. Poor girl
Helaena was the stand-out for me in Season 2, she's so innocent and loveable yet tragic at the same time.
The scene between Helaena and Jace always kills me. Shows what the future could have been if they were king and queen. I hope we get a scene between them on season 3.
SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER
Don't think that's gonna happen because Jace dies before Rhaenyra invades Kings Landing and takes the throne. So that scene is the last scene we will see between the 2 of them
Those dreams are really nothing but a curse. It takes everything from this girl, for example. She never was able to make friends or socialise, simply due to seeing and knowing things she couldn't even understand yet.
It'd be easier if it made her an omniscient, but her dreams only grant her very specific foresight on certain matters. When she's told by Alicent about the funeral procession, she doesn't even understand the whys of it all. She knows things before they happen, but that curse won't even let her participate in the real world long enough to understand the basics of her daily life.
Then later, because of that, she even gaslights herself into thinking that she has no right to grief. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Helaena and Jace look so cute together actually
They remind me of Margaery Tyrell and Tommen Baratheon actually. The King and Queen that could have brought peace
Alicent always seems to protect her instinctively
Otto’s reaction after Helaena’s toast to Baela and Rhaena was so cute 😂❤
I pity Helaena. She deserved better.
@jesney0842 She really did!
Yes, poor Helaena, she deserves the best, she has suffered too much 💔
And according to the books, she goes crazy after Jaehaerys's death and jumps from a window until she falls on some spikes, dying instantly (or so I seem to remember, I didn't read the books jet)
I don't know what will happen to her in the future.
“Queen helaena, a sweet and gentle soul, is much beloved by the smallfolk of Kings Landing” - GRRM on Queen Helaena Targaryen
While Rhaenyra was not
@@queenxx1690not because rhaenyra was bad or anything tho it's just the small folk hated everyone except haelena
Everyone is blaming Alicent for fucking uo her kids and maybe she did. Maybe they could do better but at least she was there. She had to act like both mother and father because that poor excuse of a king didn't. Yet the same people praise Viserys for being good father. No. You are not good parent if you are good to just one kid and others you leave neglected
@CommamderLongJhon If you think that Viserys Is a good person and a good father, let me tell you that he Is not.
Only blame Alicent it's wrong, she doesn't have 100% the blame, Viserys has it too and much more than her
She was horrible in the books, so stop trying to defend her, she was just the same as viserys, they just don’t know how to screen-write anymore
I can defend her because Is my channel and i can think what i want, it's freedom of expression 🤷🏻♀️
Who praised Viserys of being a good father? LOL. People who have eyes should know that he clearly was not that good of a father. Rhaenyra (his 'golden child') had a complex all her life thanks to Viserys and his 'goal' to have a son. To be fair, Viserys did treat her better than his spares (Aegon-Aemond-Daeron-Helaena)....he barely was present to be father to his 4 'spares.' But on the other hand, his condition also prevented him to do more for any of his children, only Rhaenyra, he did much more for, so I'm not surprised the rest of the children (Aegon-Aemond-etc) felt slighted and overlooked and had their own complex thanks to that. Add that with a mother who was more than happy to remind them that Rhaenyra will be a kinslayer and kill them due to their threat to her rule, that didn't make a great growing up...
Maybe I am petty, but if Cersei Lannister is solely to blame for Joffrey then Alicent should be treated the same way. She gets absolutely no sympathy from me. After a certain point she is consciously doing things she knew caused further damage but still did them because she was miserable. Not because she truly thought these things because if she did then she wouldn't look to have any relationship with Rhaenyra going forward, yet she does. Who wants to remain the friend of a woman she truly believes would murder her children?
This actress is underrated.
Seriously, if ol' Vyssie kept her closer, he prolly would have heard her more often and figured out that she was 'Dragon-Day-Dreaming'.
He, being all concerned with prophecies and destiny, woulda enjoyed that.
Viserys was never a good father, he had a preference towards Rhaenyra, he only loved her (or that's what it seems).
So maybe that's why he never wanted to spend time with her or listen to her prophecies.
Yes, i understand that, but it doesn't mean that he Is a good person, father or king, you are not right if you think that.
Viserys only loved Rhaenyra and that Is the truth, stop defending him
A good person doesn't love one of their children, many people will agree with me of it
I'm right because exists so many proofs that Viserys only loved Rhaenyra, stop defending people like him
He was also 15+ years older when he had his kids with Alicent!!! Man was barely alive - by the time Rhaeynera was capable and he was failing in health, he and Alicent were having BABIES. Now I'm not saying Viserys is the best dad ever. Now OTTO HIGHTOWER however, pimping his daughter out to an old ass king just for power!!! He's the real shit as dad and reason for this war. OR had Alicent agreed to Helaena marrying Jace, their son would be Targaryen on both sides and would have made the dance an impossibility.
Alicent slowly understanding Helena and realizing she simply wants to play with her bugs in peace. Since they’ve changed a lot of her character I HOPE they keep her alive. I know she’s suppose to die due to her grief but I just want Helena to live a peaceful life away from everyone with her dragon. She deserves peace.
Have your read the post GRRM made about the new season? He revealed Helaena's fate in the show if you want to know!
He say it in X (Twitter)?
@@SkylerAzula no I haven’t! What did he say?!
@@peydaee_ my comment keeps disappearing on my end so I’ll just comment it here
*SPOILERS*
Helaena apparently still dies by suicide but GRRM was expressing that her death is pointless because there’s no built up to it since Maelor doesn’t exist in the shows therefore blood and cheese didn’t have that much of an impact as he liked. He just had a lot of disagreements over the direction of the show and how the story is being adapted and changed.
@@SkylerAzula that lowkey makes no sense. Like what would be her reason. She already forgave herself and her mother for the death of her son. I see why he is upset.
Most interesting character with very little screentime
She ate
Helaena looks so beautiful at the usurper's coronation
Thank you so much for this, I love helaena!! Any chance you could do the other scenes from s2 plz??
helena was crying beside the window she will jump out off... ironic
Jump, or pushed out
@@KylewithaK she jumps off in the books, they might change it to push considering she has accepted her sons death which she doesnt in the books so there is a good chance she might be pushed off, however the pushing off theory was of her daughters not her
@@sxzz3480 Oh ok, I didn’t read the books. I got the vibe that aemond would push her off right before his battle with Daemon thinking he can change his fate
@@KylewithaK aemond would never however there is someone in my mind who will do it, anyways haelanas death is what probably causes the team black to lose so it will happen either way
Why do book nerds have to ruin of story for everyone else?
Where is the volume ? Helaena is mentioning what its like to be married and then no noise
Copy rights
I think Alicent felt remorse Towars Helena
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Heleana is like ffrigging human antenna😂
“We have nothing in common” fuck yeah you do that’s your sister bro 😂
Hey, Idk if you take suggestions or whatever it's called (I'm not native english) but... can you do s2 Rhaenyra or all Jacaela (Jacaerys+ Baela)?
Yes, I Will
Thanks for the suggestion 😊
Almost no one has recommended, asked or suggested me if I can make a video about something, so I really appreciate you did it.
PS: I am not a native English speaker either, I am using the translator (I always do it)
@@RaEy22 Tysm and ty for answering
I upload a video of Rhaenyra some hours ago, thanks for the suggestion (again)
Please if you’re including clips in the video where she isn’t speaking don’t just mute them
Why not?
@@RaEy22 it feels jarring a bit. Also including a little bit of the scene before she talks feels like it flows together and could extend your videos. Especially if it’s a conversation with her and other people. It’s just my opinion but I think either cut out all the silent parts and keep only her or include the sound and maybe even a little more of the scene to give context and get you back into the moment of the show. Hope it didn’t sound mean
@bugtesties If she Is not speaking i have to mute it, this scenes have copyright too
My Autistic sister can NOT be this cute
How The Queen can have less time on screen and lines than Mysaria like come on
I don't know, Helaena is better than all of the other characters. She deserves more
When are you going to post part 2?
Soon, I'm making another video
Is that a man?
Who? If you talk about Helaena, no, she Is a woman