Also, just as is Filoni's style to leave a characters story open-ended. Making room for a new ones to add to it. We have not seen the last of Barris or Lynn.
I personally think Barris is dead. She stopped breathing. Benefits of the scene taking place in the cold. Her breath stopped showing. Maybe she could have survived, but I don’t think so.
@@TheTuneShifter nah but after that Lyn is like "I'm not going to let you die 😠" She wouldnt have said that if she was *_"dead dead"_* and not just _"dead."_ So they still left the door open for her possible return. Listen if a dude can get chopped in half and fall down a bottomless pit and still come back... Then Barriss has a shot 🤷🏽♂
The transition from "You're holding back. It makes you so predictable," to "Your anger makes you so predictable" has to be one of the best. From the time I saw Bariss in the trailer for this series, I knew Bariss would turn to the light again. Hearing her tell the Jedi, "I won't let you die, you aren't alone" confirmed my thoughts. Such a great character!
I love everything Barriss says to the little boy and the jedi because these are all classic villain lying to you lines, but with the context of Barriss I think she honestly meant it
Bariss lied to herself (my opinion; I'm not a psychologist)...I think she actually believed what she told the child. She seemed to see herself, even while bombing the Jedi Temple, as a "Jedi Inquisitor".
I think that’s definitely safe to assume and I’m at least glad that that was addressed even if we didn’t get a full on scene with them in the show. I don’t know if Barriss died there at the end even if implied to who knows if we do seem on screen together again.
@@jdogthegreatone8700 Yeah. I enjoyed this. I was looking forward to it a little TOO much… but they were pretty good. Like Reva I think this gives them a chance to be part of ‘The Path’ in future stories… hmm, 3 former inquisitors… that’d be cool.
@@briguy_81 That crucial couple of minutes in between getting stabbed and receiving force first aid really makes a difference. Damnit if only Obi-wan hadn’t been ‘too late.’
The whole "Barriss looking older than she actually should be" is especially notable considering the High Republic multimedia project had just revealed that Mirialans can live at least twice as long as humans.
I recall a lot of people complaining that Filoni turned Barris into a terrorist in the lead up to Tales of the Empire's release, since she was a healer in Legends. I personally always liked the story he told, but I love how he is able to keep the essence of how the character was originally written while also telling a completely new story.
the animation team was just flexing with this one, the shots of Barris an the 4th sister climbing, the shot of Morgan punching the ground, also grievous his mechanical laughter was so ominous and creepy
7:03 I'd say that, in fact, what Morgan wants isn't revenge against someone in particular (nor a particular group), but rather, the *desire* to get revenge against anyone, the revenge she didn't get when her trauma was fresh. It's kinda common for people like her (I think, my knowledge in psychology is very basic) who went through something similar to redirect all that anger and lust for revenge against everyone around her simply because that sense of no closure doesn't let them live peacefully, and so, hurting others in similar forms is a way for her to try to fix that in herself, although, she'll never get it
Came for Barriss, stayed for the Fourth Sister. I thought she was great, which really surprised me. Scary at times, and of course we love a redemption arc.
The Fourth Sister's turn was a pleasant surprise. The way the show made her look despicable in episode 5 and then show up to confront an *older* Barriss, truly made me think it was going to be the end for her. I thought she was supposed to be like a sneaky foil to Barriss that would be overcame, and also a way for the show to get rid of a loose-ended inquisitor.
I watched the Morgan Elsbeth story and immediately rewatched the Mando episode with her. It gives so much context to a character who desperately needed it
I love how Bariss's Inquisitorius helmet takes some design cues from Asajj's Bounty Hunter helmet. It hearkens back to her initial fall but her willingness to take it off and use her face to connect with others shows that she's not truly gone.
Tales of the Empire was really good, but now I want a Tales of the Sith. I wanna see Palpatine kill Plagueis and I REALLY hope that it's like the original novel by James Luceno. Also, would be nice to see Dooku building up the Separatists and training Grievous (and also Grievous's own backstory, not sure how much of it is the same/different in canon compared to legends tho)
I feel like something as big as Palatine killing plagueis should be saved for a full series tbh, animated or live action, but that probably won't happen tbh
I loved it. The animation is stellar and the story was amazing, especially bariss’s. Seeing the fourth sister more was cool, and Barriss was amazing. Morgan was also pretty cool, seeing her becoming corrupted and having her connect with Thrawn. Morgans episodes weren’t as good as Barris’s but I don’t think anyone expected them to be. I literally gasped when barriss was stabbed. It was unexpected. I assumed barriss would be killed by Vader or something. Once again we must ask of what happened to barriss. Despite the line saying “ I won’t let you die” I imagine barriss died in the fourth sisters arms, just as they exited the caves.
To quote Palpatine from Star Wars Darth Vader | Legacy's End regarding Barriss' own quote about Lyn's anger : "My friend, at times I think you might kill every being in the galaxy. With the Jedi gone, very few opponents remain who are worthy of our skill and power. It can be... deadening, I know. We are surrounded by lesser beings, who deserve only our hate, our contempt. I feel these things too, Lord Vader, and this is good. These emotions open a door to the great power of the dark side. Nothing is more natural than surrendering to that power. Death, pain, rage... these are the tools of the Sith. But I offer a warning. Fall too deep, and the relationship turns. You become the tool, and they... Your masters".
I also thought Barriss looked too old, I mean she and Ahsoka have the same age and the 3rd episode takes place around 'Rebels', where Ahsoka is a young adult. And I thought the same thing, Barriss have been giving her life force away to heal others, that's why she looked older and that's why this technique it's not used so often by the Jedi, because it's kinda dangerous to use but Barriss take the risk to atone for her sins.
A little odd that Pellaeon has already met Thrawn before he was Grand Admiral, but I guess that adds to Thrawn: Treason that Thrawn knew Pellaeon personally rather than assuming how the captain would act
This with the Defender changes makes me think that Pellaeon was always with Thrawn and that all 6 Thrawn books are reconned. I was already thinking that this could be the case because Thrawn seemed really pro Empire when in the books he’s more pro Chiss.
@@Bobrob1597 I’m not sure about that, every time we think they’re retconning the books, they end up not really doing so. Thrawn’s support of the Chiss is usually expressed through inner monologue rather than expressed openly especially to other Imperials. He could be Chiss supportive yet won’t claim so knowing that his allies would turn on him.
@@Bobrob1597I think him being pro empire is due to his desire to protect the Chiss. I hope we get to see that he does not seek power for power sake but rather to ensure his people’s safety in the live action story’s we get
@@e115mastery yup - he wants a stronger Empire to ally with the Chiss. The Chiss can’t handle the Grysk threat on their own, but a strong Imperial alliance would help. A weak and crumbling Empire would not.
Let’s vote on the next tales series: Separatists: trench and grievous Bounty hunters: jango, embo, bossk, dengar Underground: hutts, pykes Background: Dexter Jettster and the death sticks guy
Loved the stuff with Thrawn, Rukh and Pellaeon. Was disappointed that Vader, Marrok and the TOTJ Inquisitor were silent cameos. Felt like it was building up to another episode with them, but then they just didn't return at all. 😅
@TCO_404 its kinda what Disney does, hyping characters or lines as main things and then revealing they were minor or throwaway lines. Examples being obiwans flashback of luke when that was like one episode, ventress being in one episode bad batch and retconning her death, dooku saying I've warned them abt the coming darkness while having anakins face, hyping up project necromancer and leaving it up for interpretation at the end etc
@@fornax5798 You fought in the Clone Wars? No disintegrations. Ahsoka Lives. Siege of Mandalore. What happened to Barris? Ahsoka the White. The list goes on. You must learn patience, young Padawan!
@@fornax5798 and yet eventually the stories were told, Disney or older. Even somehow Palpatine returned is being elaborated on now. It’s all connected.
We see Morgan’s journey as a survivor of the nightsister massacre to a vengeful, tyrannical magistrate We see Barriss’ brutal training as an inquisitor to a healer returning to the light helping others from other Jedi survivors to even inquisitors
I was a little disappointed by the Barriss episodes. Not because she didn't confront Vader or have some epic blowout with Ahsoka, but because I feel like there was so much more to explore here. We never really get a moment to see Barriss recognise just how horrible what she did to the Jedi Temple was or how she betrayed someone who trusted her. Regardless of how right her reasoning was, she still did terrible things, particularly to Ahsoka. There was so much potential to explore why she did the things she did and what she thinks of them now that she's attempting to be better. Ultimately, this arc for her, while on paper being what I was hoping, fell flat for me simply due to the fact that I honestly think it was rushed. There was a lot to be explored here surrounding the psychology and principles of Barriss and ultimately what we got was a shadow of what could've been.
I think ultimately that has been a problem with a couple of characters in the last few shows that we've seen in Star Wars. Bo-Katan Kryze was, and I try not to use this word lightly, a terrorist who was attempting to subvert her own sister's position of power on Mandalore through violent upheaval with Pre Vizsla that only left the Death Watch when her vision of Mandalore wasn't what Maul saw. We don't see her grapple with her choices in Mando, Rebels, or TCW. It's the same case with Barriss, she finds it in her heart to forgive herself but we don't really see WHY or HOW, she just does.
I think that’s an issue with these small format episodes but also Star Wars as a whole. A lot of character arcs in star wars go completely undeveloped and we just jump forward a lot. Anakin’s fall to the dark side *still* doesnt make a lot of sense even with TCW because ROTS and AOTC did such an awful job of developing his character and making that transition plausible. I think it’s also due to the way that Star Wars media tends to portray the Jedi and Sith in a very binary good vs evil, while simultaneously trying to act like there is nuance. Ahsoka’s story is probably the closest we’ve come to seeing the Jedi as visibly flawed. In the main movies, their flaws aren’t really explored and are lightly implied, at best. This in turn hurts the credibility of characters like Bariss and Anakin as you have to take the jedi/sith at face value and do mental acrobatics to justify why these characters would become so evil.
I think you have to remember that these are "shorts", and they just provide some broad brushstrokes of Barriss' arc after The Clone Wars. Now that these animated shorts have been completed, I wouldn't be surprised if a comic or book was made that continued to fill in even more details and that will provide exactly the information you are looking for.
@davepruitt Yeah that's the whole problem This really wasn't a story that should've been told in a shorts format 😭 There simply isn't enough time to effectively delve into the stuff that really makes it interesting
BIG AGREE!!! The Empire used her old master's CORPSE in Rebels to lure Jedi out of hiding. We got nothing out of that? Yeah, her episodes felt rushed. Wish we got like one more or something to breathe.
I’m like 70% sure that the final episode takes place on Illum. The landscape are VERY reminiscent of the big wall surrounding the temple in Fallen Order, it explains the weird voices Lyn hears, and it also just makes sense for Barriss to be there. Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but I feel like it’s plausible.
True I wonder if it was but one question i have is wasn't the empire already all over illum taking its resources since Cal visited the temple, idk if she would be safe there if the planet was in the empires view as a resourceful planet
Same and I think its cuz Morgan's motivations just don't make sense past episode 1. In episode 2 she says she lent her abilities to the empire because she wants revenge but revenge on who?? Grievous, Dooku and the separtists are dead. She has no one alive to hate anymore.
I thought Barris looking older than Lyn was a way of showing that Barris was accepting the will of the Force, since aging is part of life and natural. Lyn looking the same was a way of showing how she was against that. Or maybe I'm overanalyzing it.
You have a point. I think it symbolizes Lyn being stuck in the past. She barely changed her appearance since she first recruited Barris. She is still clinging on to her hate and anger. Barris moved on. She decided to help others and let time naturally take affect. Barris changed, while Lyn didn't.
@@duncanthomson7894 Bariss is a Mirialian, which age extremely slowly. The fact that Barris has aged speaks to some other element - whether it’s the planet has aged her, or her Force Healing has aged her, etc…
When they showed the darkness approaching I really thought it was about to be Vader, it looked a lot like him. I’m happy that her story is gonna probably continue but it would have been just as good to see her attempt to hold off Vader.
Barris facing an enraged Lyn without a lightsaber so she may stall for others to escape reminded me a lot of Luke and Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi.
I really enjoyed. Some people say they are disappointed with the potential, but I view as people having too much high hopes. If it tells the story well, then it is good enough for me. I will say that the Tales of the series could be an opportunity to enlighten certain characters that we know very little about or visit certain moments that we never got to see. One of the possible ideas for this series is a Tale of The Bounty Hunter season. It can focus on other bounty hunters but there is one character that comes to mind: Boba. It was ashamed that we never got to see the boba and cad arc from the clone wars. This could be an opportunity for that arc to be revived. I can only pray to the force. Happy May the 4 to everyone and may the force be with you all
That R8 droid had more sense than whoever sent those troops to detain Morgan. They sent pistol-wielding New Republic soldiers behind enemy lines to detain a well-defended magistrate. New Republic incompetence at its best.
The way I'd describe Morgan's arc is that in each episode, she found herself in the company of other people than her own, and each time she never felt at home or feeling any kind of attachement to others, just like she said in The Path of Anger : "These are not my people, how could they ever be?" Meaning that since her people died, she hasn't been able to call anywhere else home, to truly be part of another goup of people and share their beliefs than her own. Being ostracized from the Mountain Clan for her actions, gaining the distrust and contempt of the people she ruled over on Corvus after "failing " to convince the Empire to collaborate with her, refusing to be part of the New Republic, or even siding with the Empire and in the end, when Thrawn said in Ahsoka : "For the Empire" she whispered : "For Dathomir". Because she never truly believed in the Empire, it was just a means to an end to help her own and only people, and her history is determined by everything she has done when it only benefited her people and no one else, or even at others' expense with pain and suffering.
Would have loved if they showed us the visions/voices Morgan heard of Peridea - to show her obsession with bringing the Dathomiri back and how everything else was a means to an end.
Random fact: in Ep.4, Dante (the fallen Jedi who fought Barriss) was played by Nicolas Cantu, who was the VA for Rowan Freemaker. Always good to see actors return to the Star Wars galaxy!
*[1]* I love that Thrawn had his forehead bumps. I imagine they were excluded in _Ahsoka_ so that Lars Mikkelson could move his brow, but they make the character look more alien. *[2]* It's a shame that Barriss didn't also recognise the Grand Inquisitor, so she could name him too. *[3]* Marrok looks even more like a knight with that half-cloak. *[4]* I loved all the ideological back-and-forth between Barriss and the Fourth Sister, as well as their different methods of getting information. *[5]* Barriss coaxing the child was uncomfortable not only because it was so evil, but because I wasn't certain if she was deliberately manipulating or just trying to get through a child's fear (removing her helmet reminded me of when Waxer took off his helmet to show Numa that him and Boil weren't droids). *[6]* I was surprised to see the child hug Barriss, but it offered some solid, silent characterisation. Barriss almost puts herself between the child and the Fourrh Sister, but not quite. She tells him to not look, but doesn't comfort or apologise, or even say something like "I didn't know she'd do that." She's got some compassion, but she's still an Inquisitor, and not supposed to comfort children. I totally expected the Fourth Sister to kill him too, but she doesn't. She's definitely evil, but she won't kill a kid, so there's still some good in her - foreshadowing her apparent return to the Light Side in the next short. *[7]* It's a brief moment, but Bariss warns the Fourth Sister of the rockfall, and the Fourth Sister doesn't catch or wait for Barriss when she's hit by it. *[8]* I was totally expecting one of the other Inquisitor contenders, or the Jedi hiding in the mountains, to be a youngling from _The Clone Wars'_ youngling arc. A missed opportunity, I think. *[9]* Non-binary representation? Both the village child and Barriss refer to the unnamed Jedi with they/them pronouns. *[10]* Seeing some lines on Barriss Offee's face relieved me, because it made me think she's been a healer for a long time; she doesn't leave the Inquisitorious only to die a few months later. *[11]* The description _"A shadow from Barriss' past catches up with her"_ made me think that Luminara or Ahsoka might appear in the third short, and confronting her would snap Barriss out of the Inquisitorious. When I got a second look at the approaching figure, the cape made me think it was Vader. But it was probably best to have a consistent presence across all three shorts (and I don't think Vader cares about how she hurt Ahsoka, or that a Luminara/Barriss relationship could be re-established well in just one short). *[12]* I expected Barriss to fight the Fourth Sister with white lightsabers, since she is a healer - maybe still in the same hilt. But it's better, as a Jedi and a healer, for her to just evade attacks rather than return in kind. It's also a good flip on the Grand Inquisitor's first lesson. *[13]* When the Fourth Sister shouts "Barriss!" and she responds "I'm here," the sound effect when the former strikes the ground is from Exogol, when Kylo Ren meets Palpatine. *[14]* Barriss saying "I forgive you" after getting stabbed is about the most Light Side thing she could say, and a complete 180° on her previously writing off the Jedi Order for their violence. *[15]* The shot of Lyn leaving her lightsaber behind reminded me of the final shot of _Victory And Death,_ with Vader walking away from the clone helmet in the snow. *[16]* With Lyn mirroring Barriss' words to the unnamed Jedi, we get another parallel. These three shorts really like parallels, and I am not complaining. It's like poetry, they rhyme.
Q&A: Since we did saw the epilogue ending of Omega leaves the Bad Batch and Pabu for joining the Rebellion as a Pilot. What if The Mandalorian Season Finale, The Mandalorian and Grogu Film, or the upcoming Vs. Thrawn Film will do the similar thing like they showed an Epilogue for Din Djarin and Grogu that Grogu becomes a Teenager (or Adult) in a Time Jump to closer to the Sequel Trilogy era to have him join the Resistance to stop the First Order and might going to say Good Bye to Din Djarin (since he's pretty much an old man in that era) or possibly the first look of the era in the upcoming Rey's new Jedi Order film might going to have Grogu join the similar faction will be established in the Rey film and Grogu might say good bye to Din Djarin in the grave site? (We pretty much know Grogu would be around 100 years old in that era and I don't think Din Djarin will be around in that era.)
That would be cool! Seeing Grogu as a teenager, perhaps with a larger puppet or CGI model talking with his Dad, and maybe fighting alongside Rey and Finn would be cool to see!
So with my memory and some added help from people in the comments (Feel free to reply with any info I missed or if I got something wrong), we have a timeline for TOTE. Episode 1: Around 20 BBY. Episode 2: Between 14 BBY & 2 BBY. Episode 3: Sometime around or before 9 ABY. Episode 4: Around 19 BBY. Episode 5: Sometime after 19 BBY. Episode6: Sometime after 19 BBY.
The current fleet-mixing trend in animation with the Venator/Imp 1 mixes are awesome and are nice nod towards how the early Imp(erator at that time) would have been used in the last months of the Clone War.
The Way out mirrored Return of the Jedi in that it is a selfless act that gets you back. These shorts like the Tales of the Jedi ones were so well done and so powerful, and also have imo so much truth in them. Fantastic
I agree. Morgans story showed that she was unfortunately played from the start. From joining the empire, who are ran by the person responsible for her family dying, to corvus turning against her because she didn't get them jobs, to ultimately being used by the nightmothers in Ahsoka as the last line of defence whilst they escape with thrawn.
I’m glad that Barriss was wounded but not outright killed, and then carried away by Lyn, presumably to somewhere safe. I feel like that was a good middle ground between killing her and just letting her escape unscathed.
@@Lee-dt3wu I just see it as depending on where you get stabbed and if it destroys your vitals. It’s like being shot in the stomach, but a bit more extreme.
We really liked this season. We are very happy that they gave Bariss an ending. Hopefully next we get the arc where Thrawn meets Anakin during the Clone Wars.
Regardless of the in-universe explanation, Barriss looking old while Lyn looks identical it works quite well symbolically - Barriss has matured, while Lyn, who Barriss previously looked up to, hasn't changed at all.
I enjoyed these shorts a lot, and will be interested to revisit them. Agreed on the music; that was strong throughout. Barriss' story was effective, though I appreciated the Morgan episodes a little more -- both for understanding her better, and for the connections therein. I didn't expect Pellaeon and Rukh to play a part, and Thrawn himself was awesome. The most emotional parts for me were bookend moments: the death of Morgan's mother (interestingly and fittingly voiced by Diana Lee Inosanto) and Lyn's moment of commitment to help Barriss. The contrast in those two is partly what makes me think Barriss is alive.
I dont think Morgan had any inherent Magik, she was just being enhanced by the spells of others, and when they died in the massacre Morgan's powers faded. We know Talzin and Merrin both survived as well, and they didn't lose their powers because they learned and mastered them internally rather than needing to be boosted by others. Morgan regained her Magik near the end of Ahsoka when the trio of Great Mothers restored her tatoos and enhanced her combat prowess to the level of Ahsoka.
I like the subtle shift in Lyn's character between Realization and The Way Out. She seems a bit more tired, jaded, and resigned, like the years of darkness have taken their toll. She seems almost disillusioned, somehow. The fact that she doesn't attack Barris right away and actually tries to get her to stand aside before swinging is some really subtle and compelling character development.
The Morgan shorts explain why Captain Pallaeon is so loyal to Thrawn, before this they had only just met like a few days before the end of Rebels, but now we know that Pallaeon served under Thrawn for a time beforehand, which is why he has such a high admiration for him.
As Barriss mentioned her old friend Ahoska which led me to assume she made up with her in between these time which I really hope so, and the fact that she may also know about the hidden path
The Morgan arc really shows how in getting revenge, she was actually causing just more destruction like the Separatists. Another thing I liked is how a dark sider shows Barriss the way into the Empire and Barriss shows the dark sider the way out of the Empire.
I thought Takes of the Empire just like Takes of the Jedi was awesome!!! Thank you for the review and insight. This was positive and helpful unlike 75% of the negative unhelpful videos out there. Peace
Here are my thoughts. Ep. 1: very good, love the irony in Elsbeth’s own fear of the droids returning causing the droids to return. Also, new Commando Droid blaster? Ep. 2: while I like it, I don’t love how it glosses over the events of the Thrawn and Thrawn Treason novels. Pellaeon was good but Eli would have been better, and I didn’t like how it was Morgan who came up with the Defender Ep. 3: while the episode was kinda meh, her speech at the end was fascinating from a psychology perspective Ep. 4: probably my favorite, both visually and content wise. It honestly felt like a fever dream, what with the colors, and I think that’s super fitting Ep. 5: another good one. My god was Lyn brutal. Ep. 6: goddammit Barriss’ story ends on another cliffhanger. But I enjoyed it nonetheless, especially with the call back to Barriss’ healing ability
Thank you and May the Fourth be with you!🩵 I'll be watching Tales of the Empire! And for the next crossover story is a Techno-Organic War between the Yushan Vong vs the Reapers (Star Wars Legends vs Mass Effect)
The second episode retconned some things, Pellaeon met Thrawn after he was made grand admiral. Also this episode should be set around 2bby, slightly after or before the battle of Batonn, making them venator cruisers quite old in perspective (20 years of service) even tho they could be still very functional. 5:55
Excellent review Alex. I more or less agree with you - redemption all round in Barris and tragedy and the ingratitude of the townspeople leads Morgan to anger and evil. Cheers.
5:52 eh using an expensive large ship for 8 years is not unheard of, alot of the US Navy is over 40-50 years old and still leagues ahead of the next 10 countries. I am actually glad they are making the transition not as unrealistically rapid as bad batch is trying to portray it as.
I love that you're so positive about it. I'm tired of so many youtubers bashing everything new just because the story is exploring female characters... Thank you
Yeah this show opened a lot of questions about canon haha. Like, how do Mirialans age? Barriss looks like she aged so much in just 5-10 years, but in the Acolyte trailer we see Vern looking older but still great despite it being like 100 years later.
I really like that all the "Tales of..." arcs have revolved partially at least around how to galactic powers can totally neglect or outright dominate and destroy the outer rim planets with less influence. We got to see a lot of what life is like on impoverished less important planets, and I think it's thematically important that in the time of the Empire, thats where Jedi make their home. Stark contrast to the corrupt and tone deaf Jedi of the prequels.
I hope so. I always liked her and weirdly enough felt kinda sorry for her ‘fall’ in TCW. Happy to see her redeemed and now that that TOTE made me even more fond of her, I hope she survived and that we’ll see more of her. I’d love to see her and Ahsoka meet again. Think it’d make me cry lol.
I have a real problem with how the Inquisitorius is being handled in Star Wars lately. Fallen Order does a great job making them feel like a terrifying entity, worthy to be Vader’s protégés. But this series makes them look like pushovers. Knowing the Inquisitors are all former Jedi who have been trained since childhood, the training should focus around stamping out their light side affinities and twisting them into evil instruments (as we see in Fallen Order). But no one seems to sense or notice Bariss’s obvious conflict, and she’s sent on missions without even understanding the objective. In reality, an organization that operated this way would be disastrously ineffective, and it makes Bariss’s choice to turn back towards the light much more shallow. It pains me to see Star Wars creators do this to such a cool concept as the Inquisitors are. I understand that doing it right would create a very dark and mature theme, but I can’t give Filoni a pass on that this time. He chose to tell this story, after all.
I liked both sets of stories, but similarly I appreciated the stories about Bariss a bit more. I think her story was very well done. I think now that the broad strokes of her story have been told within this animation, I wouldn't be surprised if a comic or a book was written to provide more details and fill in further gaps. I also won't be surprised if she now turns up in the Ahsoka series - I think it was very purposeful that her "death" was left open-ended.
When Bariss was impaled, I gasped 😨 which is surprising because I hated her ever since she became a terrorist and did Ahsoka dirty 😂 They handled her story very well tbh 👏
I liked BOTH and I hope Morgan Elsbeth becomes the new supreme mother! I feel like there’s so much more they can do with the witches and how they use the force.
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Leave it to Filoni to answer, "What happened to Bariss?" with "What happened to Bariss?"
Also, just as is Filoni's style to leave a characters story open-ended. Making room for a new ones to add to it. We have not seen the last of Barris or Lynn.
I personally think Barris is dead. She stopped breathing. Benefits of the scene taking place in the cold. Her breath stopped showing. Maybe she could have survived, but I don’t think so.
@@TheTuneShifter nah but after that Lyn is like "I'm not going to let you die 😠" She wouldnt have said that if she was *_"dead dead"_* and not just _"dead."_ So they still left the door open for her possible return.
Listen if a dude can get chopped in half and fall down a bottomless pit and still come back... Then Barriss has a shot 🤷🏽♂
Nobody really dies anymore thanks to Disney Star Wars. They're too afraid to invent their own characters without being able to cameo old ones.
@@EagleLeader1 that is not unique to disney star wars lol. That’s star wars in general.
The animation quality of when Morgan punched the ground was CRAZY. Like each grain of sand moved and looked so realistic.
I cant remember. Which scene?
@@blackburn1489 When she's looking upon the burning remains of Dathomir and falls to her knees.
Yes! When Bariss and the 4th sister arrived on the desolated planet, the animation almost looked like live-action. They really did an amazing job.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually earth cleverly superimposed into animation.
Dude the side profile of Vader literally looked real as well.
The transition from "You're holding back. It makes you so predictable," to "Your anger makes you so predictable" has to be one of the best. From the time I saw Bariss in the trailer for this series, I knew Bariss would turn to the light again. Hearing her tell the Jedi, "I won't let you die, you aren't alone" confirmed my thoughts. Such a great character!
I love everything Barriss says to the little boy and the jedi
because these are all classic villain lying to you lines, but with the context of Barriss I think she honestly meant it
Great point
Little girl, actually.
Bariss lied to herself (my opinion; I'm not a psychologist)...I think she actually believed what she told the child. She seemed to see herself, even while bombing the Jedi Temple, as a "Jedi Inquisitor".
Barris saying “old friend” at least to me seems to give the implication that her and Ahsoka probably reconciled at some point.
That's my guess too.
I think that’s definitely safe to assume and I’m at least glad that that was addressed even if we didn’t get a full on scene with them in the show. I don’t know if Barriss died there at the end even if implied to who knows if we do seem on screen together again.
Barris also referred to her friend as 'she,' which would also point at Ahsoka.
@@neora5that’s a good catch when in the previous episode Bariss refer the Jedi as they/them. Using she they were definitely hinting Ashoka.
To everyone who sees this comment, May the 4th be with you, always
May the 4th be with you brother!
May the 4th be with you too
U too
May the 4th be with you brother
Good news everyone! After a decade of waiting, we now know that Barriss Offee’s fate was ambiguous!
I DID MY WAITING! 11 YEARS OF IT!
She lives! I’d bet on it. She only took a lightsaber through the torso. That’s only killed one Jedi, Qui-Gon
@@SkepticalJedi would not go so far as to say they're pointless lol
@@jdogthegreatone8700 Yeah. I enjoyed this. I was looking forward to it a little TOO much… but they were pretty good. Like Reva I think this gives them a chance to be part of ‘The Path’ in future stories… hmm, 3 former inquisitors… that’d be cool.
@@briguy_81 That crucial couple of minutes in between getting stabbed and receiving force first aid really makes a difference. Damnit if only Obi-wan hadn’t been ‘too late.’
“Not trapped by the cave, trapped by your mind” -Yoda, Star Wars the clone wars.
The whole "Barriss looking older than she actually should be" is especially notable considering the High Republic multimedia project had just revealed that Mirialans can live at least twice as long as humans.
@@Rebel_Scum1138or just the stress of running from the space gestapo
@@Rebel_Scum1138 this - I appreciate the recognition of the MedStar Legends novels which canonized her as a healer first and foremost!
She got the Obi Wan treatment
they probably were just trying to show the passage of time between episodes without outright saying it
@@whatisreddin7367 but then why does Lyn look exactly the same?
I recall a lot of people complaining that Filoni turned Barris into a terrorist in the lead up to Tales of the Empire's release, since she was a healer in Legends. I personally always liked the story he told, but I love how he is able to keep the essence of how the character was originally written while also telling a completely new story.
But as a side note i really feel like people need to stop surviving being stabbed with a lightsaber. Qui-Gon is turning in his ashy grave
@@goshdarnchicken han solo beg to differ
the animation team was just flexing with this one, the shots of Barris an the 4th sister climbing, the shot of Morgan punching the ground, also grievous his mechanical laughter was so ominous and creepy
7:03
I'd say that, in fact, what Morgan wants isn't revenge against someone in particular (nor a particular group), but rather, the *desire* to get revenge against anyone, the revenge she didn't get when her trauma was fresh. It's kinda common for people like her (I think, my knowledge in psychology is very basic) who went through something similar to redirect all that anger and lust for revenge against everyone around her simply because that sense of no closure doesn't let them live peacefully, and so, hurting others in similar forms is a way for her to try to fix that in herself, although, she'll never get it
Came for Barriss, stayed for the Fourth Sister. I thought she was great, which really surprised me. Scary at times, and of course we love a redemption arc.
You didn't mention how ridiculously good the combat scenes were. I want live action combat to look that good.
Basically impossible. Anime has been far surpassing anything possible in live action for decades, it's just something animation does better imo
The action was top notch!
The Fourth Sister's turn was a pleasant surprise. The way the show made her look despicable in episode 5 and then show up to confront an *older* Barriss, truly made me think it was going to be the end for her. I thought she was supposed to be like a sneaky foil to Barriss that would be overcame, and also a way for the show to get rid of a loose-ended inquisitor.
It was perfect and a great redemption for her
I watched the Morgan Elsbeth story and immediately rewatched the Mando episode with her. It gives so much context to a character who desperately needed it
I love how Bariss's Inquisitorius helmet takes some design cues from Asajj's Bounty Hunter helmet. It hearkens back to her initial fall but her willingness to take it off and use her face to connect with others shows that she's not truly gone.
The designs in these shows are always top notch
Tales of the Empire was really good, but now I want a Tales of the Sith. I wanna see Palpatine kill Plagueis and I REALLY hope that it's like the original novel by James Luceno. Also, would be nice to see Dooku building up the Separatists and training Grievous (and also Grievous's own backstory, not sure how much of it is the same/different in canon compared to legends tho)
I feel like something as big as Palatine killing plagueis should be saved for a full series tbh, animated or live action, but that probably won't happen tbh
Morgan burning Caladan, okay, long live the spice
i was looking for this comment lol
I thought it was Corvus..?
@@TYSniper He's making a Dune joke😆
She dumped the spice-
@@fornax5798 Like Trace
I loved it. The animation is stellar and the story was amazing, especially bariss’s. Seeing the fourth sister more was cool, and Barriss was amazing. Morgan was also pretty cool, seeing her becoming corrupted and having her connect with Thrawn. Morgans episodes weren’t as good as Barris’s but I don’t think anyone expected them to be. I literally gasped when barriss was stabbed. It was unexpected. I assumed barriss would be killed by Vader or something. Once again we must ask of what happened to barriss. Despite the line saying “ I won’t let you die” I imagine barriss died in the fourth sisters arms, just as they exited the caves.
EXACTLY ❤😊
It was cool to see Captain Pellaeon, but I *really* would have loved an on-screen appearance from Eli Vanto!
To quote Palpatine from Star Wars Darth Vader | Legacy's End regarding Barriss' own quote about Lyn's anger :
"My friend, at times I think you might kill every being in the galaxy.
With the Jedi gone, very few opponents remain who are worthy of our skill and power. It can be... deadening, I know.
We are surrounded by lesser beings, who deserve only our hate, our contempt.
I feel these things too, Lord Vader, and this is good. These emotions open a door to the great power of the dark side.
Nothing is more natural than surrendering to that power. Death, pain, rage... these are the tools of the Sith.
But I offer a warning.
Fall too deep, and the relationship turns. You become the tool, and they...
Your masters".
I also thought Barriss looked too old, I mean she and Ahsoka have the same age and the 3rd episode takes place around 'Rebels', where Ahsoka is a young adult. And I thought the same thing, Barriss have been giving her life force away to heal others, that's why she looked older and that's why this technique it's not used so often by the Jedi, because it's kinda dangerous to use but Barriss take the risk to atone for her sins.
If the empire was still around by the last episode she’d be 36 at most
A little odd that Pellaeon has already met Thrawn before he was Grand Admiral, but I guess that adds to Thrawn: Treason that Thrawn knew Pellaeon personally rather than assuming how the captain would act
It's in the books
This with the Defender changes makes me think that Pellaeon was always with Thrawn and that all 6 Thrawn books are reconned. I was already thinking that this could be the case because Thrawn seemed really pro Empire when in the books he’s more pro Chiss.
@@Bobrob1597 I’m not sure about that, every time we think they’re retconning the books, they end up not really doing so. Thrawn’s support of the Chiss is usually expressed through inner monologue rather than expressed openly especially to other Imperials. He could be Chiss supportive yet won’t claim so knowing that his allies would turn on him.
@@Bobrob1597I think him being pro empire is due to his desire to protect the Chiss. I hope we get to see that he does not seek power for power sake but rather to ensure his people’s safety in the live action story’s we get
@@e115mastery yup - he wants a stronger Empire to ally with the Chiss. The Chiss can’t handle the Grysk threat on their own, but a strong Imperial alliance would help. A weak and crumbling Empire would not.
Let’s vote on the next tales series:
Separatists: trench and grievous
Bounty hunters: jango, embo, bossk, dengar
Underground: hutts, pykes
Background: Dexter Jettster and the death sticks guy
I hoped that they would show more Thrawn, Marrok and Inquisitor from Tales Of The Jedi, but overral pretty good show 8/10
Loved the stuff with Thrawn, Rukh and Pellaeon. Was disappointed that Vader, Marrok and the TOTJ Inquisitor were silent cameos. Felt like it was building up to another episode with them, but then they just didn't return at all. 😅
@TCO_404 its kinda what Disney does, hyping characters or lines as main things and then revealing they were minor or throwaway lines. Examples being obiwans flashback of luke when that was like one episode, ventress being in one episode bad batch and retconning her death, dooku saying I've warned them abt the coming darkness while having anakins face, hyping up project necromancer and leaving it up for interpretation at the end etc
@@fornax5798 You fought in the Clone Wars?
No disintegrations. Ahsoka Lives. Siege of Mandalore. What happened to Barris? Ahsoka the White. The list goes on. You must learn patience, young Padawan!
@Marandahir the first two were pre disney. With the exception of siege of mandalore the last 4 were either underutilized or poorly defined.
@@fornax5798 and yet eventually the stories were told, Disney or older. Even somehow Palpatine returned is being elaborated on now. It’s all connected.
We see Morgan’s journey as a survivor of the nightsister massacre to a vengeful, tyrannical magistrate
We see Barriss’ brutal training as an inquisitor to a healer returning to the light helping others from other Jedi survivors to even inquisitors
I was a little disappointed by the Barriss episodes. Not because she didn't confront Vader or have some epic blowout with Ahsoka, but because I feel like there was so much more to explore here.
We never really get a moment to see Barriss recognise just how horrible what she did to the Jedi Temple was or how she betrayed someone who trusted her. Regardless of how right her reasoning was, she still did terrible things, particularly to Ahsoka. There was so much potential to explore why she did the things she did and what she thinks of them now that she's attempting to be better.
Ultimately, this arc for her, while on paper being what I was hoping, fell flat for me simply due to the fact that I honestly think it was rushed. There was a lot to be explored here surrounding the psychology and principles of Barriss and ultimately what we got was a shadow of what could've been.
I think ultimately that has been a problem with a couple of characters in the last few shows that we've seen in Star Wars. Bo-Katan Kryze was, and I try not to use this word lightly, a terrorist who was attempting to subvert her own sister's position of power on Mandalore through violent upheaval with Pre Vizsla that only left the Death Watch when her vision of Mandalore wasn't what Maul saw. We don't see her grapple with her choices in Mando, Rebels, or TCW. It's the same case with Barriss, she finds it in her heart to forgive herself but we don't really see WHY or HOW, she just does.
I think that’s an issue with these small format episodes but also Star Wars as a whole. A lot of character arcs in star wars go completely undeveloped and we just jump forward a lot. Anakin’s fall to the dark side *still* doesnt make a lot of sense even with TCW because ROTS and AOTC did such an awful job of developing his character and making that transition plausible.
I think it’s also due to the way that Star Wars media tends to portray the Jedi and Sith in a very binary good vs evil, while simultaneously trying to act like there is nuance. Ahsoka’s story is probably the closest we’ve come to seeing the Jedi as visibly flawed. In the main movies, their flaws aren’t really explored and are lightly implied, at best. This in turn hurts the credibility of characters like Bariss and Anakin as you have to take the jedi/sith at face value and do mental acrobatics to justify why these characters would become so evil.
I think you have to remember that these are "shorts", and they just provide some broad brushstrokes of Barriss' arc after The Clone Wars. Now that these animated shorts have been completed, I wouldn't be surprised if a comic or book was made that continued to fill in even more details and that will provide exactly the information you are looking for.
@davepruitt Yeah that's the whole problem
This really wasn't a story that should've been told in a shorts format 😭 There simply isn't enough time to effectively delve into the stuff that really makes it interesting
BIG AGREE!!! The Empire used her old master's CORPSE in Rebels to lure Jedi out of hiding. We got nothing out of that? Yeah, her episodes felt rushed. Wish we got like one more or something to breathe.
"This story isn't about trivia." Damn, I feel super called out right now.
I’m like 70% sure that the final episode takes place on Illum. The landscape are VERY reminiscent of the big wall surrounding the temple in Fallen Order, it explains the weird voices Lyn hears, and it also just makes sense for Barriss to be there. Maybe it’s wishful thinking, but I feel like it’s plausible.
exactly what I thought
True I wonder if it was but one question i have is wasn't the empire already all over illum taking its resources since Cal visited the temple, idk if she would be safe there if the planet was in the empires view as a resourceful planet
Also, i love that the Way Out of fear is to stop being afraid for yourself and start being motivated to help others.
I was way more into the Barriss episodes. I enjoyed the first episode of Morgan's but 2 & 3 weren't as interesting to me
Same and I think its cuz Morgan's motivations just don't make sense past episode 1.
In episode 2 she says she lent her abilities to the empire because she wants revenge but revenge on who?? Grievous, Dooku and the separtists are dead. She has no one alive to hate anymore.
I thought Barris looking older than Lyn was a way of showing that Barris was accepting the will of the Force, since aging is part of life and natural. Lyn looking the same was a way of showing how she was against that. Or maybe I'm overanalyzing it.
different species, aging slower? possibly
@@duncanthomson7894 could also be
You have a point. I think it symbolizes Lyn being stuck in the past. She barely changed her appearance since she first recruited Barris. She is still clinging on to her hate and anger.
Barris moved on. She decided to help others and let time naturally take affect. Barris changed, while Lyn didn't.
@@duncanthomson7894 Bariss is a Mirialian, which age extremely slowly. The fact that Barris has aged speaks to some other element - whether it’s the planet has aged her, or her Force Healing has aged her, etc…
It could just be different individuals aging in different ways and at different rates, like real life lmao
I looooved the 6th episode and the way Bariss handles everything there. That story specifically is one of my favourites, possibly ever!
I was REALLY hoping for Barriss to die to Vader, wouldve been a poetic ending
Yep dying to either Vader or Ahsoka, or being redeemed y by Ahsoka. I loved this ending too but definitely would’ve hit harder
@@Aaron-fb6mb One of hte few times I hope a character didnt die to a lightsaber wound, they have so much more they could tell
When they showed the darkness approaching I really thought it was about to be Vader, it looked a lot like him. I’m happy that her story is gonna probably continue but it would have been just as good to see her attempt to hold off Vader.
Barris facing an enraged Lyn without a lightsaber so she may stall for others to escape reminded me a lot of Luke and Kylo at the end of The Last Jedi.
I really enjoyed. Some people say they are disappointed with the potential, but I view as people having too much high hopes. If it tells the story well, then it is good enough for me. I will say that the Tales of the series could be an opportunity to enlighten certain characters that we know very little about or visit certain moments that we never got to see. One of the possible ideas for this series is a Tale of The Bounty Hunter season. It can focus on other bounty hunters but there is one character that comes to mind: Boba. It was ashamed that we never got to see the boba and cad arc from the clone wars. This could be an opportunity for that arc to be revived. I can only pray to the force. Happy May the 4 to everyone and may the force be with you all
Totally!
That R8 droid had more sense than whoever sent those troops to detain Morgan. They sent pistol-wielding New Republic soldiers behind enemy lines to detain a well-defended magistrate. New Republic incompetence at its best.
If they show up with an army, how does that make them look any different from the Empire tho? Just another occupying force.
A good act does not wash out the bad, nor a bad act the good. Each should have its own reward.
I understood that reference
my knee is bending...
The way I'd describe Morgan's arc is that in each episode, she found herself in the company of other people than her own, and each time she never felt at home or feeling any kind of attachement to others, just like she said in The Path of Anger : "These are not my people, how could they ever be?"
Meaning that since her people died, she hasn't been able to call anywhere else home, to truly be part of another goup of people and share their beliefs than her own.
Being ostracized from the Mountain Clan for her actions, gaining the distrust and contempt of the people she ruled over on Corvus after "failing " to convince the Empire to collaborate with her, refusing to be part of the New Republic, or even siding with the Empire and in the end, when Thrawn said in Ahsoka : "For the Empire" she whispered : "For Dathomir".
Because she never truly believed in the Empire, it was just a means to an end to help her own and only people, and her history is determined by everything she has done when it only benefited her people and no one else, or even at others' expense with pain and suffering.
Would have loved if they showed us the visions/voices Morgan heard of Peridea - to show her obsession with bringing the Dathomiri back and how everything else was a means to an end.
"what was her inquisitor name" i'm guessing she didn't get one because she was an inquisitor for all of about 35 seconds.
11 years of waiting payed off. Also that last episode gave me Avatar Last Airbender vibes.
SECRET TUNNEL!
Random fact: in Ep.4, Dante (the fallen Jedi who fought Barriss) was played by Nicolas Cantu, who was the VA for Rowan Freemaker. Always good to see actors return to the Star Wars galaxy!
*[1]* I love that Thrawn had his forehead bumps. I imagine they were excluded in _Ahsoka_ so that Lars Mikkelson could move his brow, but they make the character look more alien.
*[2]* It's a shame that Barriss didn't also recognise the Grand Inquisitor, so she could name him too.
*[3]* Marrok looks even more like a knight with that half-cloak.
*[4]* I loved all the ideological back-and-forth between Barriss and the Fourth Sister, as well as their different methods of getting information.
*[5]* Barriss coaxing the child was uncomfortable not only because it was so evil, but because I wasn't certain if she was deliberately manipulating or just trying to get through a child's fear (removing her helmet reminded me of when Waxer took off his helmet to show Numa that him and Boil weren't droids).
*[6]* I was surprised to see the child hug Barriss, but it offered some solid, silent characterisation. Barriss almost puts herself between the child and the Fourrh Sister, but not quite. She tells him to not look, but doesn't comfort or apologise, or even say something like "I didn't know she'd do that." She's got some compassion, but she's still an Inquisitor, and not supposed to comfort children. I totally expected the Fourth Sister to kill him too, but she doesn't. She's definitely evil, but she won't kill a kid, so there's still some good in her - foreshadowing her apparent return to the Light Side in the next short.
*[7]* It's a brief moment, but Bariss warns the Fourth Sister of the rockfall, and the Fourth Sister doesn't catch or wait for Barriss when she's hit by it.
*[8]* I was totally expecting one of the other Inquisitor contenders, or the Jedi hiding in the mountains, to be a youngling from _The Clone Wars'_ youngling arc. A missed opportunity, I think.
*[9]* Non-binary representation? Both the village child and Barriss refer to the unnamed Jedi with they/them pronouns.
*[10]* Seeing some lines on Barriss Offee's face relieved me, because it made me think she's been a healer for a long time; she doesn't leave the Inquisitorious only to die a few months later.
*[11]* The description _"A shadow from Barriss' past catches up with her"_ made me think that Luminara or Ahsoka might appear in the third short, and confronting her would snap Barriss out of the Inquisitorious. When I got a second look at the approaching figure, the cape made me think it was Vader. But it was probably best to have a consistent presence across all three shorts (and I don't think Vader cares about how she hurt Ahsoka, or that a Luminara/Barriss relationship could be re-established well in just one short).
*[12]* I expected Barriss to fight the Fourth Sister with white lightsabers, since she is a healer - maybe still in the same hilt. But it's better, as a Jedi and a healer, for her to just evade attacks rather than return in kind. It's also a good flip on the Grand Inquisitor's first lesson.
*[13]* When the Fourth Sister shouts "Barriss!" and she responds "I'm here," the sound effect when the former strikes the ground is from Exogol, when Kylo Ren meets Palpatine.
*[14]* Barriss saying "I forgive you" after getting stabbed is about the most Light Side thing she could say, and a complete 180° on her previously writing off the Jedi Order for their violence.
*[15]* The shot of Lyn leaving her lightsaber behind reminded me of the final shot of _Victory And Death,_ with Vader walking away from the clone helmet in the snow.
*[16]* With Lyn mirroring Barriss' words to the unnamed Jedi, we get another parallel. These three shorts really like parallels, and I am not complaining. It's like poetry, they rhyme.
Legendary summary bro!
Really enjoyed this, the Empire, Thrawn and Nightsisters are the most fascinating pieces for me afterall
Q&A: Since we did saw the epilogue ending of Omega leaves the Bad Batch and Pabu for joining the Rebellion as a Pilot. What if The Mandalorian Season Finale, The Mandalorian and Grogu Film, or the upcoming Vs. Thrawn Film will do the similar thing like they showed an Epilogue for Din Djarin and Grogu that Grogu becomes a Teenager (or Adult) in a Time Jump to closer to the Sequel Trilogy era to have him join the Resistance to stop the First Order and might going to say Good Bye to Din Djarin (since he's pretty much an old man in that era) or possibly the first look of the era in the upcoming Rey's new Jedi Order film might going to have Grogu join the similar faction will be established in the Rey film and Grogu might say good bye to Din Djarin in the grave site? (We pretty much know Grogu would be around 100 years old in that era and I don't think Din Djarin will be around in that era.)
That would be cool! Seeing Grogu as a teenager, perhaps with a larger puppet or CGI model talking with his Dad, and maybe fighting alongside Rey and Finn would be cool to see!
7:35 burns the forest around Caladan? Like the planet name from dune?
So with my memory and some added help from people in the comments (Feel free to reply with any info I missed or if I got something wrong), we have a timeline for TOTE.
Episode 1: Around 20 BBY.
Episode 2: Between 14 BBY & 2 BBY.
Episode 3: Sometime around or before 9 ABY.
Episode 4: Around 19 BBY.
Episode 5: Sometime after 19 BBY.
Episode6: Sometime after 19 BBY.
The current fleet-mixing trend in animation with the Venator/Imp 1 mixes are awesome and are nice nod towards how the early Imp(erator at that time) would have been used in the last months of the Clone War.
The Way out mirrored Return of the Jedi in that it is a selfless act that gets you back. These shorts like the Tales of the Jedi ones were so well done and so powerful, and also have imo so much truth in them. Fantastic
I might be in the minority here but I preferred the Morgan Elsbeth episodes to the Barriss Offee episodes.
A surprise opinion for sure but a welcome one.
Me too!
same
I agree. Morgans story showed that she was unfortunately played from the start. From joining the empire, who are ran by the person responsible for her family dying, to corvus turning against her because she didn't get them jobs, to ultimately being used by the nightmothers in Ahsoka as the last line of defence whilst they escape with thrawn.
yep
We had to wait 11 years but finally we got to see Bariss's journey continue. And it was worth the wait.
Was it though?
Yep. It was.
The Morgan Elsbeth episodes were just okay for me. But I really enjoyed the Barriss episodes
Never cared about Morgan Elsbeth, think we should got Ventress episodes
@@danielmedjedovic7068Ventress would have been great but in due time Nika Futterman confirmed her return
Exact opposite from me, I feel like Barriss' episodes ended up being a big wasted opportunity
@@TheHIOJK they were terrible
@@TheHIOJKagreed
Man I hadn't thought about the life force thing for Barriss' aging. Love that!
I’m glad that Barriss was wounded but not outright killed, and then carried away by Lyn, presumably to somewhere safe. I feel like that was a good middle ground between killing her and just letting her escape unscathed.
I'm honestly starting to wonder if Canon!Lightsabers have a stun-setting
@RotalHenricsson they always have
But it's supposed to not allow things like stabbing to happem
It looks like anyone can survive being stabbed now. Well… except for Qui Gon Jinn.
@@Lee-dt3wu I just see it as depending on where you get stabbed and if it destroys your vitals. It’s like being shot in the stomach, but a bit more extreme.
@@Lee-dt3wuwell, if Qui Gon got immediate treatment he might have survived.
We really liked this season. We are very happy that they gave Bariss an ending. Hopefully next we get the arc where Thrawn meets Anakin during the Clone Wars.
Tales of the empire Morgan and barris was amazing episodes but Morgan was the back story for Ashoka and mandalorian season 2
I have been looking forward for this
Regardless of the in-universe explanation, Barriss looking old while Lyn looks identical it works quite well symbolically - Barriss has matured, while Lyn, who Barriss previously looked up to, hasn't changed at all.
I enjoyed these shorts a lot, and will be interested to revisit them. Agreed on the music; that was strong throughout. Barriss' story was effective, though I appreciated the Morgan episodes a little more -- both for understanding her better, and for the connections therein. I didn't expect Pellaeon and Rukh to play a part, and Thrawn himself was awesome.
The most emotional parts for me were bookend moments: the death of Morgan's mother (interestingly and fittingly voiced by Diana Lee Inosanto) and Lyn's moment of commitment to help Barriss. The contrast in those two is partly what makes me think Barriss is alive.
One thing I wondered after Morgan's power faded: if she lost her powers, how did Merrin keep hers?
I dont think Morgan had any inherent Magik, she was just being enhanced by the spells of others, and when they died in the massacre Morgan's powers faded. We know Talzin and Merrin both survived as well, and they didn't lose their powers because they learned and mastered them internally rather than needing to be boosted by others. Morgan regained her Magik near the end of Ahsoka when the trio of Great Mothers restored her tatoos and enhanced her combat prowess to the level of Ahsoka.
Maybe the mountain mother was "purifying" the nightsister magick from Morgan, and lied to her about it fading
The labyrinth with Barris was so awesome! Give us more Barris!!
I like the subtle shift in Lyn's character between Realization and The Way Out. She seems a bit more tired, jaded, and resigned, like the years of darkness have taken their toll. She seems almost disillusioned, somehow. The fact that she doesn't attack Barris right away and actually tries to get her to stand aside before swinging is some really subtle and compelling character development.
That old friend that Barris refers to when she sends that family away from Lyn, was that one Jedi that she helps after Lyn almost kills her.
I like how Barriss’ inquisitor helmet has a similar design aesthetic to the one she stole from Ventress.
Well balanced video review. Thanks a lot for this.
The episodes were awesome
The Morgan shorts explain why Captain Pallaeon is so loyal to Thrawn, before this they had only just met like a few days before the end of Rebels, but now we know that Pallaeon served under Thrawn for a time beforehand, which is why he has such a high admiration for him.
Can't believe I felt sad at Bariss death... DAMN YOU FILONI!!!
She was only impaled by a lightsaber; it has been established that that isn’t lethal unless it dramatically happens from behind
I really liked the updated looks for Rukh and the Grand Inquisitor.
Needed more episodes to explore the characters. The fights were incredible!
As Barriss mentioned her old friend Ahoska which led me to assume she made up with her in between these time which I really hope so, and the fact that she may also know about the hidden path
The Morgan arc really shows how in getting revenge, she was actually causing just more destruction like the Separatists. Another thing I liked is how a dark sider shows Barriss the way into the Empire and Barriss shows the dark sider the way out of the Empire.
I thought Takes of the Empire just like Takes of the Jedi was awesome!!! Thank you for the review and insight. This was positive and helpful unlike 75% of the negative unhelpful videos out there. Peace
Here are my thoughts.
Ep. 1: very good, love the irony in Elsbeth’s own fear of the droids returning causing the droids to return. Also, new Commando Droid blaster?
Ep. 2: while I like it, I don’t love how it glosses over the events of the Thrawn and Thrawn Treason novels. Pellaeon was good but Eli would have been better, and I didn’t like how it was Morgan who came up with the Defender
Ep. 3: while the episode was kinda meh, her speech at the end was fascinating from a psychology perspective
Ep. 4: probably my favorite, both visually and content wise. It honestly felt like a fever dream, what with the colors, and I think that’s super fitting
Ep. 5: another good one. My god was Lyn brutal.
Ep. 6: goddammit Barriss’ story ends on another cliffhanger. But I enjoyed it nonetheless, especially with the call back to Barriss’ healing ability
Thank you and May the Fourth be with you!🩵
I'll be watching Tales of the Empire!
And for the next crossover story is a Techno-Organic War between the Yushan Vong vs the Reapers (Star Wars Legends vs Mass Effect)
I want Tales of Scoundrels next year.
Tales of Underworld
The second episode retconned some things, Pellaeon met Thrawn after he was made grand admiral. Also this episode should be set around 2bby, slightly after or before the battle of Batonn, making them venator cruisers quite old in perspective (20 years of service) even tho they could be still very functional. 5:55
@@lukegill6908 the venators weren’t his tho
I am confused why Morgans face markings disappeared and Ventress’s clearly didn't?
Excellent review Alex. I more or less agree with you - redemption all round in Barris and tragedy and the ingratitude of the townspeople leads Morgan to anger and evil. Cheers.
5:52 eh using an expensive large ship for 8 years is not unheard of, alot of the US Navy is over 40-50 years old and still leagues ahead of the next 10 countries. I am actually glad they are making the transition not as unrealistically rapid as bad batch is trying to portray it as.
I CRIED. Bariss deserverd that amazing ending.
I love that you're so positive about it. I'm tired of so many youtubers bashing everything new just because the story is exploring female characters... Thank you
It’s simple. Those other dudes don’t get laid 🤷🏻♂️
Fun fact: Barris missed the beginning 6-10 months of the clone wars and was a medic at the Jedi temple. Hence the moniker the Healer. IMO
Yeah this show opened a lot of questions about canon haha. Like, how do Mirialans age? Barriss looks like she aged so much in just 5-10 years, but in the Acolyte trailer we see Vern looking older but still great despite it being like 100 years later.
The last 3 episodes were great
I can’t believe how dark that scene was in Episode 5
I was left speechless
The only problem is Vader didn't get to do much and it would have been cool if he showed them fear
I really like that all the "Tales of..." arcs have revolved partially at least around how to galactic powers can totally neglect or outright dominate and destroy the outer rim planets with less influence. We got to see a lot of what life is like on impoverished less important planets, and I think it's thematically important that in the time of the Empire, thats where Jedi make their home. Stark contrast to the corrupt and tone deaf Jedi of the prequels.
Brilliant video thank You
I say, Bariss still lives.
I hope so. I always liked her and weirdly enough felt kinda sorry for her ‘fall’ in TCW. Happy to see her redeemed and now that that TOTE made me even more fond of her, I hope she survived and that we’ll see more of her. I’d love to see her and Ahsoka meet again. Think it’d make me cry lol.
Especially since Disney likes showing so many characters survive light saber wounds.
Thank you for this video.
I have a real problem with how the Inquisitorius is being handled in Star Wars lately. Fallen Order does a great job making them feel like a terrifying entity, worthy to be Vader’s protégés. But this series makes them look like pushovers.
Knowing the Inquisitors are all former Jedi who have been trained since childhood, the training should focus around stamping out their light side affinities and twisting them into evil instruments (as we see in Fallen Order). But no one seems to sense or notice Bariss’s obvious conflict, and she’s sent on missions without even understanding the objective. In reality, an organization that operated this way would be disastrously ineffective, and it makes Bariss’s choice to turn back towards the light much more shallow. It pains me to see Star Wars creators do this to such a cool concept as the Inquisitors are.
I understand that doing it right would create a very dark and mature theme, but I can’t give Filoni a pass on that this time. He chose to tell this story, after all.
It was a fun time.
I was crying at Barriss ep 3.
SECRET TUNNEL! The way out of the cave is with love!
I'm obsessed with this show!!!
I liked both sets of stories, but similarly I appreciated the stories about Bariss a bit more. I think her story was very well done. I think now that the broad strokes of her story have been told within this animation, I wouldn't be surprised if a comic or a book was written to provide more details and fill in further gaps. I also won't be surprised if she now turns up in the Ahsoka series - I think it was very purposeful that her "death" was left open-ended.
When Bariss was impaled, I gasped 😨 which is surprising because I hated her ever since she became a terrorist and did Ahsoka dirty 😂
They handled her story very well tbh 👏
Morgan's desire for revenge by joining the Empire despite her hatred for it, parallels Reva joining the Inquisitori
Venators were still in use during the OT era, really not that weird.
I liked BOTH and I hope Morgan Elsbeth becomes the new supreme mother! I feel like there’s so much more they can do with the witches and how they use the force.