@zeroyon223 They are easy to work, have great aftermarket support, and the Type R is a awesome collectors piece. However the S2000 is the better track car IMO between the two.
my 1993 Prelude 2.2 survived a complete drowning in 2012.I spent 9 Months, cleaning and rebuilding it. Thanks to your channel its working again.Till today I'm still happy owning and driving it !
S2000: miata with a long front end Porsche boxster: miata with an additional 100hp, also mid engine Corvette c5 zo6: miata with 405hp Mazdaspeed miata: miata w/turbo Fiat 124: the gentlemans miata Alfa 4c: Miata with a shot of expresso
@Sideways G RSX is fine for normal driving. Look at some track setups for the ridiculous things people do to get those cars to rotate though. 2000lb rear springs, flipping the steering rack... they really dropped the ball with that car compared to the previous generation.
@@benpalumbo6726 This. You're RSX is fine for canyon carving, and your not wrong for liking it but there's no denying that McPherson Struts is a cheaper, less performance setup. In Hondas defense, yes, you would never notice the difference on roads. But that car along with the ditching of many mainstay models Eric mentioned marked a transition for Honda. The fact that there was a Type R DC5 is embarrassing because it's absolutely not a track car anymore.
@EF8Max I'm not by any means a suspension expert, I'm just going off what track teams tell us. There's a cool MotoIQ video on RUclips you can find about the suspension... I think its an EP3 but its the same suspension.
@Sideways G I've owned 2 Integra sedans & test drove my friends Rsx when he used to have it. It didn't handle as well as my teggys and I could tell immediately tell the difference in macpherson strut vs double wishbone, both in ride quality & handle.
I get it, though. All the Honda's I loved died when the S 2000 was born. I love the S 2000, but you can't deny everything was much better before that car.
@@AaronAbbotttheoncomingstorm S2000 is a true honda sports car, along with NSX. I think if he actual drove one then he wouldn't hate it. Prelude, and del sol have nothing on a S2000.
I have followed you for a few years now. Never commented but I thought this is a good time to chime in. Like you, I have 2 integras. Both 98 GSRs. One a black hatch and the other a green sedan. Both are originals with no modifications of any kind. I just find the integra a very very good car as a daily driver. Now, with the GSR or the Type-R. You get the added benefit of being able to go fastER and thus translates to being a very fun driving experience. Keep up with the good work. I enjoy you videos.
Good video. I fell in love with Honda's in 1988, I drove a then new '88 Accord sedan and I was blown away. Perfect size steering wheel in diameter and thickness, perfect shifter (it was a manual), clutch, etc. It was quiet, comfortable, fun, super plush (overly expensive) floor mats, door shut thunk was perfect, horn beep was spot on, driving dynamics were great, visibility (all that glass was awesome) and it was all wrapped up in a family sedan, seriously, I couldn't believe it. The other thing is every button, every knob, dial, etc. had a satisfying weight/heft and click to it. I grew up on GM cars, it was like comparing Metal Tonka trucks to Dollar Store plastic trucks from the bargain bin. Golden era Honda's, to me, run from the 80's to the 90's although I absolutely detested the 4th gen Prelude interior (dash reminded me of a GM design) loved the 2nd/3rd and 5th gen Preludes. Also never was a fan of the jelly bean design theme Honda had going on back then. Anything ever more of a sleeper fun car than a '91 Civic Si hatchback with a stick shift? I think one of the biggest let downs was the 5th gen Civic. I remember badly wanting a new '91 Civic or Accord but I was still in college. I remember graduating in '92 and going to the Honda dealership and being so let down with the then new '92 Civic with that cheap looking jelly bean design, the chintzy door handles and goofy headrests, to me, Honda lost my love for Civic with that specific car but later rebounded nicely the following generations. I own a 2008 Accord that I bought in 2009 (w/14k miles for my wife, it has 150k+ and will go to my son soon when he turns 16) and I "like" that car, it's been really good but I don't love it like I loved the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen Accords, those were pretty much perfect, fun, reliable, inexpensive family sedans for the money imho.
I had a 1994 Acura Intergra I did all the maintenance on it two timing belts I got rid of it at almost 300K miles. Since I live in mid west the rust just started to kill everything. But I really loved that car. Been a Honda Fan since I was born. Currently drive a 2011 Civic Si which I will give to my son when my new 2020 Typre R in boost Blues comes in. Keep up the good work Eric and stay safe. I also never like the S2000 however recently it is starting to grow on me, maybe because there are so many limited ones out there.
I borrowed a 5 spd 83 Prelude in 1993. It was an amazing car for the time period. Best 3 days of my life. I could see the problem with pop up headlights though..
Respect your opinion. My friends thought I was crazy for buying a Delorean. It has a lot of problems but still one of my favorite cars. I never thought of the S2000 as a Miata with a long nose till you said it. Now I can’t unsee it that way!!
I have been a staunch Honda owner since the early 1990s. Each successive Honda I've owned (except my Odyssey), has been an incremental disappointment. From the clutch change on my 2004 Civic SI (remove the entire subframe?!) to the 2015 Accord LX (VTEC Cam gear not recalled for 2015 - but every 4-banger on either model year side?!). When I decided to make a substantial investment in a truck, I considered Honda's answer to the F150, but instead decided to give Ford another chance with my current F250 SD. Ride a little rougher than the Honda, but it's a truck and not a wannabe. Thanks for all you do for us shade-tree mechanics, Eric!
Honda wasted a ton of time and money on things that squandered their talents;HondaJet, Asimo, IndyCar...not making any Acura rwd platform luxury cars like what Toyota did.Maybe one day when management comes to their senses they will. but Hyundai and Kia are cutting into their bottom line
I hope they do. I lost most of my respect for Honda when they replaced the absolutely amazing K20 and K24 engines that they used in their Civic SI with the new 1.5 turbo engines. I do not see those engines as an improvement, I see them as an ugly, complicated, problematic mess without enough of a benefit to justify its use. They are not innovative, they don't even have the VTEC system that Honda came up with decades ago.
@@copperlocks1 The home market in Japan has been in malaise for three decades as South Korea has been in growth. Toyota has responded better to changes than Honda. EVs will either boost some car makers, or ruin them. Honda isn't willing to go head to head with Toyota on the U.S. truck market, and thus far the Koreans have not done so either.
@@averyalexander2303 BMW has made similar moves toward turbos and the reliability has been lacking, but that is probably an interim move towards hybrid EVs
I hope so. The most interesting thing they've done in recent memory is the Honda E. Bold design choices in EVs is their chance to turn around. Otherwise, I don't think they're long for this world. Or at least the USDM market
Del sol vtec trim is the type r of del sols, in 94 in the US Honda gave it the 1.6 dohc vtec engine with short gearing transmission that made that car a force to be reckoned with back in 94.. the DEL SOL RECEIVED FIRST A DOHC VTEC POWERPLANT (b16a3) IN THE STATES BEFORE THE CIVIC... Then in 96-97 which may now become holy Grails pretty soon in the Honda tuner market, (which I luckily own one 1997 haha) received the VERY POPULAR B16a2 which many people know it BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT CAME OUT AS POWERPLANT FOR THE EXTREMELY POPULAR 99-00 CIVIC SI a couple of years later! THE 1997 vtec trim model received abs, Integra brakes all around, front strut bar, crossmemeber bar, front and rear sway bars. Fun fact, the front sway bar of a del sol vtec trim is the same size as a usdm model Integra type r front sway bar.
Great info from a guy who knows more about Hondas than I. The quirkiest Honda I ever owned was a '71 Z600 Coupe. Drove it to death, and would do it all over again. The worst was the '07 Civic I just buried. No one should have to spend 4 hours replacing a starter...
Thanks for this amazing video. I have a 2003 Accord sedan LX with a K24 engine mated to a 5-speed AT. Apart from routine maintenance and some oil leak a couple of years ago, which I fixed, it still runs like new after ~16 years of use. I hate the fact that recent Accords being manufactured are turbocharged. I would really have preferred Honda engineers work towards a naturally aspirated engine/option, mated with an AT. In as much as I love the efficiency of Honda, I place a premium on durability too. This was why I fell in love with Honda in the first place. These turbo engines won't last except they are just bought to be kept in museums. I do hope I am not alone.
You are not alone👍. I own a 98 Prelude. It leaks oil and body is rusting out but dont want to get rid of it. It's the first stick shift I've owned and still has OE clutch.. 250k. 100% agreement with newer cars having turbos and CVTs👎
I had an 03 Type S and it had four transmissions replaced by 100,000 miles. I hated the front brakes. The steering wheel radio controls didn’t work. The volume knob would do whatever it wanted when you turned it. There was a rattle/squeak in the overhead console that I couldn’t find. Other than those minor things 😒 the fuel economy was great!
I'm a big fan of the CB7 chassis Accords from '90-'93. I think this might've been the last car Soichiro Honda approved for production. Very well built and designed, and tough as nails. Parts are still readily available and cheap, and they last a long time. They can be left to handle like the cream puffs they are, or you can mod the suspension a little bit and they handle great. They also readily accept the H22 you're so fond of. I have two :)
Eric, You are THE BEST on the Web! :-) I am a former auto mechanic. I also have a lot of experience working on Hondas. Civics are my favorite. I have owned MANY. Great cars for many reasons. Keep up the good work! :-) Regards, Tim
Got rid of my 2010 tsx due to a bad vsa modulator. Convenient price of over $2,000 for another bad from factory unit which 2 separate Acura techs told me would also likely fail. I'll drive a bmw or something far more exciting than a Euro Accord if I have to buy $2,000 bad from factory parts in order to not lose 90% brake function. No thanks. Great car otherwise. Negated by that massive Achilles heel
@@RothBeyondTheGrave 1st gen TSX is the way to go. I own an 04 135k miles and runs like a dream. At the time the salesman tried to talk me into a 2010 model and it did nothing for me. I drove the 04 he had on the lot (yeah used car dealer) and I just fell in love with it.
This man just put it down folks. I dare anyone to say that he's wrong. Honda/Acura died in 2001. The RSX is absolute junk and I wouldn't give more than $1K for a Type-S and that's just so I could pull the motor and trash the chassis. I've had a 93' Cobra #1682 Vibrant Red (Around 430ish HP 331) still have my Dad's bought new 91' Red on grey 5-Speed Mustang GT, Had a GSX Eclipse etc etc etc.. However no car in my entire 32 years of life has me like my 99' GSR Integra. I'll Touge the car in the mountains of TN at 3am at night and hang harsh off camber corners next to rock ledges at 90 MPH in this thing and all it ever says "Give me more.. more..MORE!!" I'm telling you I've driven them ALL when it comes to sports cars but their nothing better than a good sorted 90's Honda/Acura. Believe that. These cars are already legends but they will become legendary.. So, be good to them, because eventually the ricer kids will kill them off one by one.
Hi, 1st time viewer: Just bought a 1998 Civic LX with 168K on it. Did a good tune up and fluid change. Still needs some love on the body but wow! What a car. Has new rubber and handles like a dream. Quite peppy too. I do have a question or two about the automatic but that can wait. Thanks and I agree Honda could have gotten more 'mileage' out of those models that were axed. You obviously know you stuff. Thanks for the info.
Hearing a Honda/Acura expert's opinion is always valuable. BTW, that RSX was still Integra in Japanese market, which I'm sure you know. Honda did lose their spirit as "Being Different" some years ago. Even Honda enthusiasts in Japan have been pissed off for the last 15 years or so, because Honda switched to minivan/lightweight car company (lightweight cars are popular in Asia & certain parts of EU). I also blame it on "globalization". When Honda/Acura vehicles were purely made in Japan & the U.S, they were fine cars but now parts are made all over the world, with not very impressive quality control.
As an owner of a ‘91 Accord LX, I wholeheartedly agree for me. Great looks with an extremely well-made interior. I only have a few gripes with it, but what a great car to drive.
I had one and sold it to my daughter. She drives the absolute crap out of it and loves it. It's also her first manual car first Honda so I think we have a loyal convert lol.
renndub That’s great hear that it’s treating her so well and small world! My Accord is just the same for me when I got it, 3 years/36,000 miles ago and I don’t imagine ever parting with it. Hopefully, it treats us as well as Joe LoCicero’s! Always glad to hear of another happy 4th-generation Accord story!
As someone that also works on a lot of cars and specifically a lot of Hondas I couldn't agree more. Honda really started ruining their automatics when they listened to their customers who complained about "harsh shifting." They started programming the transmissions to slip more between gears so it would feel smoother to the least common denominator of a buyer (therefore wearing faster). Anything with some power would just eat transmissions like crazy. I tell anyone to avoid any V6 Hondas made from about 97 to 2008. The legends are some of my favorite cars AND favorite cars to work on. They are truly made to last an absolute eternity. I put a grand in maintenance parts into a friend's 1992 180k mile Legend a few weeks ago. When I was done I noticed that it had a burned out tail light bulb. Much to my surprise when I opened it up,the burned out bulb wasn't burned out, it just had a little bit of corrosion on it, so I cleaned it off, put some bulb grease on it and put it back in. Out of curiosity I checked the other bulbs, Every last one of them was the original KOITO factory bulb. On a 28 year old car!! That's just insane to me. (Not to mention I often see brand new Hyundais driving around with burned out tail lights!! lol) I will have to ask my friend to share the story of his 1990 Legend with you sometime... The best 900 dollar car ever. Finally, S2000s are great and can be fun but especially now they are overrated... I love engines you can rev the freaking balls off of but the S2k is literally slow until you hit vtec, and then it's just too little too late. It's also not as easy to daily drive like an Integra or even a miata... ...I also hate how the shifters feel in those. I've been driving stick for 18 years and every time I get in one I feel like I'm going to mis-shift because the throw is too short AND kinda vague. A bad combination!
Yeah whats up with the bulbs Hyundai uses? They must be cheap junk I see them burned out all the time. I notice Prius taillights seem to go out a lot too and I believe those are LED's so you have to replace the whole assembly.
My first Honda, 3rd gen accord, was a love/hate relationship with me. It had more vacuum lines than I've ever seen on any vehicle which made it a pain for working vacuum leaks.
The Civics have maybe 5 vacuum lines for the whole engine. I always admired Hondas lack of emission equipment, basically just a vapor canister for the fuel vapor and a catalytic converter. They still seem to pass emissions easily even when they burn oil.
I have a 1986 honda civic wagon. Excellent car, except the vacuum lines can be nightmare fuel to some. However, I always appreciated the engineering behind them with all the electro-mechanical components.
@Sideways G Porsche also stubbornly sticks to the inferior rear mounted engine and neuter's the mid engine Cayman (or whatever number they call it now) because if they were equal, the 911 would be destroyed, so what's your point?
I had a 2003 Acura TL Type S, bought it certified with 30k and was only 3 years old. Drove it 30 miles from the dealership to home and 30 miles back to the dealership...where they replaced my AT. As for the trim and other little things...well you are spot on about that car!
My auntie had a 1987 Acura Integra 5 speed. She got over 333,000 miles on it until it caught fire. And those were hard miles; lived in San Francisco for awhile (all the hills with a manual...) and tons of road trips up and down the west coast.
My first car was a '77 Accord hatchback with both a manual transmission and manual choke. Easy to work on. Taught myself how to do a tune-up using my Chilton's manual. Fun to drive, but rusted like crazy. Didn't make it to 100K.
Great video. I like that you are talking about it from the perspective of someone who works in these cars professionally. Not from the point of a customer.
I bought a new 2019 Pilot. Wow, what a disappointment. That was my 1st and last Honda. What drove me crazy was how loud and unrefined the noise level was. It almost sounded like the rear suspension was loose (it wasn't). The dash display that was so "busy" with "stuff'. The transmission felt like it was "holding back" when coasting as though it needed to upshift. It seemed that after engineering 70% of the car, they put into production. I kept the car for about 6 months and traded it in for a different brand.
I love the 2000 civic si, best car so far in my mind. Also the 2006 to 2011 civic, they are easy to work on and have minor issues if you keep up with regular maintenance. I agree about the prelude, awesome.
I agree with the 2000 Civic Si. It's a beautiful and fun car. But I disagree with the 8th Gen Civic. In my opinion, it's the ugliest civic of them all, especially the European version. The interior is nice, though
First time watching your videos, and gotta say they’re really good. You know what you’re talking about and it’s cool that you say it’s your opinion and you’re open to discussion. Good stuff.
First gen CRVs were cool and more Jeep like, any civic with a stick are fun cars to drive, now Honda Acura CUVs and SUVs are soul less appliances that are meh.
See above comment...started w/98 AWD CRV, 250K miles, loved it...briefly drove a 2002, totally different trucklike beast, hated it...now got a 2000, back to luv'n it. Great snow car, utility stuff like hauling firewood, comfortably ergonomic, roomy, good on gas, and much more.
So glad to hear you shout out the prelude. I had 2 5th gens both type sh with full bolt ons and coil overs and still my favorite car I’ve ever owned. Bought the second one from a dismantler for $800 and hit the jackpot because it had a genuine mugen cat back on it and it sounded incredible
@@SI0AX Yeah I don't think Acura exists anywhere outside of North America. We got the Integras but it is called an Acura here rather than a Honda. And the last generation of the Integra (the DC5) is called an Acura RSX here.
I own a 2003 Acura TL Type-S A-Spec. The previous owner had already replaced the transmission which was good for me. I love the car, and I've been lucky with some of the issues you were mentioning about it. It's still running strong in 2021 with 320,000 km's.
I absolutely loved my wife's 95 Civic DX 2 dr coupe, teal green. Great MPG, great to drive, easy to take care of. Wish I had it back. Wife sold it last year with 95k miles. Her mother bought it new.
Had an '03 tl that literally may have been mechanically totaled due to constant brake work alone. Died with its 3rd transmission in it. 1st went at 44k mi when my mom owned it before me. What's worse is she traded her FLAWLESS '94 Legend for it which drove no different at 205k mi as it did when new. '03 tl = worst Honda I've ever experienced. '94 Legend = aside from an '89 Camry I had, most consistent car I've ever experienced. They'll NEVER make them like that, period.
I agree with you about the RSX -- you nailed it on that one. Definitely a downgrade from an Integra. The Integra was an awesome car -- absolutely amazing. But I disagree with you about the S2000 - that's a way better car than the Del Sol. I've never been a fan of the Del Sol. It's just not as good looking as the S2000, and it's *so* slow. I'd take an S2000 any day. Even over a Miata, actually. The S2000 is the best 2-seater Japanese roadster, in my opinion, especially when it's been supercharged.
Had several integra’s and really loved them, in the rust belt in Canada and there are not many around in a solid format. Had a few others, a CL and a RSX. Paused then and picked up a 2018 TLX, SH AWD A SPEC V6. Now that’s a fun car to drive, love it and is summer driven only! Miss the old integra. Love yours. Love the video’s keep them coming..
Yeah, Honda switching to McPherson on all their lineup was the cornerstone for Honda. The suspension would never be anywhere close to what it was before.
My Honda of choice is the Prelude. I own a 91' 3rd gen with a h22a engine in it and a 96' 5th gen as a beater and a Lexus IS200 as my daily. I absolutely love the 3rd gen Preludes styling and with the h22 it's a beast. Hoping I never need to part with it. Wish we had Integras where I live probably would own one as well. Would love to own a CRX too those things look sexy. Unfortunately every time they come up for sale here they are heavily moded or are complete pieces of junk and not worth the enormous rarity tax that people think the car deserves.
I acquired a 2001TL with lots of little problems. The rotor issue was a tough nut to crack but in the end the car had 230k mileage and the original front end and steering components. The left rotor was replaced and within a month the vibration on braking and pull to the left was back. High mileage made replacing components acceptable since if they were not bad they were well worn. Replaced tie rods, bearings, and ball joints then resurfaced that left front rotor and all the ride and steering issues were gone. My theory is the worn steering components would reach a harmonic vibration and increased wear at specific location on the rotor during moderate breaking. Over time there was a high spot on each side of the rotor 180deg apart. This made for violent shimmy when breaking hard.
It interesting to hear your opinion on cars enthusiasts like and cars technicians like and vice versa. My dad is also a Honda mechanic and he hates modern Hondas, especially the turbo ones.
i don't really have much experience with hondas (except for the fireblade and the cbr600f) but when i was a kid, my mom had a 1995 Civic LSI Coupe with which we were travelling to croatia every year during summer break and sometimes even for the winterholidays. i thought the car looked cool and i liked the sound the engine made. 90hp seemed plenty to me back then, cause my dad drove a ford fiesta with 55hp i think. my moms civic had run a little over 400.000km when some woman ran a redlight on an intersection and crashed into it. insurance covered the body repair, but later it was discovered that the crash has caused a crack in the engine block, the car ran funny after that crash, burned oil and water, first it was thought the headgasket was gone, but it was the previously mentioned crack. my mom sold it for 500€ to some guy who had a spare engine in his backyard. it had almost half a million kilometers by that point.
My wife and I had a '00 Honda CRV and drove it 315,000 miles during college. The thing was a trouble free tank as long as you kept good balanced tires on it. (AWD system is touchy with worn tires) The A/C died at 120k and at 220k miles, the cat went bad at 289k but other than that we had no issues with it. I'd buy another one today if that's all I could afford or had to buy a beater for someone. We ended up selling it to an oversea shipper for $3500. :)
Haha, I knew Prelude would make the list. I love my 3rd gen, but it is EFI... and 4WS, so I have 16+ ball joints 😂😂; the USDM 4WS was mechanical, 29 years old and no issues.
@Christopher gendron, So jealous. I had the 2 wheel steering carborated automatic base. Boooo. QUESTION, does your 4 wheel steering model have super light steering, like steering pinky finger only from rack to rack? Mine was like that, always wondered if 4ws had crazy light steering too.
@@foellerd it is the greatest. Light and agile like no other, it turns easily and quickly. My 5th Gen feels like a pregnant cow in comparison. It is a beacon from the Golden Age of Honda.
I've owned 3 s models but never an si and doing a swap was well out of reach with the b20a5 pulling a premium for no reason as well as not finding them in junkyards around me.
I had an 86 SE prelude,fuel injection. Ran perfect up to 450ish thousand kms. I currently have a 92 Civic si hatch with a toasted motor at 462 thousand,a 2001 Prelude,5 speed,leather interior and a 14 civic coupe 5 speed. My wife has a nice 05 TL to round out my Honda collection 😎
98-02 Honda Accord EX-L Coup 4 cyl manual. Best car I've ever had. Super, super reliable. I had 350,000 miles on mine when I sold it and it still had the factory clutch. The V6s had the same problems as the 99-03 TL with the automatic trans.
I bought my first Integra 4 years ago when I was 15(didn't even have a license). Bought another one when I was 18(last year). Plan on resto-modding one to summer drive until I finish college. Complete build video will be on my channel sometime in November hopefully.
I had a 1996 Prelude SI with the H23, swapped a JDM H22A and with a chipped and tuned ecu, that car was a blast. Got hit by 3 major hail storms in DFW, pulled the engine and sold her to the junk yard. One of the coolest Honda's IMO
@@murkinstock Very true, some more than others for sure. It's just hard for me to see the company that made some of the best cars in modern history fall on its face. Also, a pro tip: Dont buy a Subaru.
The 1994 Honda Civic LX - grey exterior/grey interior. Drove til' 285,000 miles - replaced the engine with a JDM motor from TX back at 190,000 when the original motor lost its head gasket the 2nd time. Bought it back in Sept 2001 with 74k miles from the dealer that I traded the 1988 Civic that the thermostat slammed shut and roasted the motor at 200k. A/C worked every year I had it, and it was a great long distance driver with great gas mileage - 34 to 38 mpg. Had to get rid of it due to severe rust issues at the rear dogleg area and wheel arches. Traded it in for a 03 Honda CR-V LX with 94k miles . Still miss the 94 Civic.......
@@ruinunes8251 lol look at the ae86 corolla. Early 2000s you found then for 2-3k eveb less. Now a "ok" example is 10-15k. Ive seen a ae86 auto with most of the body rusted. Still sold for 7k
mike n the same with the s2000. I have seen some of them full of rust falling apart and they go really expensive. It is almost cheaper buy gold than buying a S2000
One of my all time favorites was my girl friend's 1993 Accord 2 door SE High Output. Leather, Factory Bose Automatic. It was probably a 4 speed auto. The ride was fairly supple but it handled quite well. That car just really amazed me at how quick it was. Interior, comfort, it was a pleasure to drive. I almost cried the day she traded it on a plain Jane Subaru Impreza 4 door hatch.
A year after my prior question I'm watching this video again and have decided I would consult you before I ever buy a Honda. My very first car was almost a Honda Accord way back when they first started selling them. If I buy a Honda at some point in the future it would most likely be a CRV or Pathfinder.
Have to say I agree regarding the change in Honda’s around 2000-ish. Family and friends had several 80s and 90s Honda’s that were great vehicles. My dad bought his first Honda in 2001, a brand new Civic. He had many fitment/trim issues as well as various other issues to the point where the dealer swapped it out for a 2002 Civic. Same issues. My brother had issues with his 2008 Civic as well. Have to say this colored our experience with Honda and my dad would be hard pressed to buy another one after his Civics. Nearly our entire family drives Subaru’s at this point and they have been wonderful cars.
I never knew you owned a prelude back then and im happy to know that you did! I own a 1998 prelude and love the h22. If you ever get your hands on a prelude and start to do some work on it, that would be awesome! We need more prelude content out there on youtube
Helped my aunt pick out a 02 TL typeS in 02 very pretty sedan if you ask me and I felt like a hero cause she went from a caravan with constant transmission troubles to a nice reliable Honda product. Lost track of how many times she had to take that TL in for transmission troubles but I think the entire thing had to be replaced twice. 😧
My 98 civic was bulletproof. Great motor, bad input shaft bearings for 10years, still never failed. My 87 accord lxi with the efi ran to 296k miles, original motor and auto trans, still shifted and ran GREAT. Head gasket went and we decided our car that we joked was totaled every time it ran out of gas was due to be retired.
the integra type R is one of the best automobiles ever made.
@zeroyon223 They are easy to work, have great aftermarket support, and the Type R is a awesome collectors piece. However the S2000 is the better track car IMO between the two.
@zeroyon223 223 is overrated
zeroyon223 you having owned one did u like the power that came with it? What did feel was overrated about the car?
It's when they were an Engineering company
b18 dc2r im just about done with my k24a2 swap. Im extremely exited to see how it feels to drive.
my 1993 Prelude 2.2 survived a complete drowning in 2012.I spent 9 Months, cleaning and rebuilding it. Thanks to your channel its working again.Till today I'm still happy owning and driving it !
one of my ex girl friends had a Prelude , .......... really good reclining front seats
... so are the Civic's ...
next, "Scotty: Toyotas I don't like"
That won't happen 😉
Toyota Tercel
Scotty sucks.
@@michaelw6277 nonsense, Scotty loves Toyota but he also has some strong things against toyota
@@carholic-sz3qv Scotty sucks
S2000: miata with a long front end
Porsche boxster: miata with an additional 100hp, also mid engine
Corvette c5 zo6: miata with 405hp
Mazdaspeed miata: miata w/turbo
Fiat 124: the gentlemans miata
Alfa 4c: Miata with a shot of expresso
Eunos Roadster: Miata
GTR-R35: A totally re-designed Miata
Hondajet: Miata that can fly
Amen!
ZX6R - Miata on two wheels
RX-7 : *happy rotary noise
Lamborghini gallardo: Miata thats just Italian with an extra 450hp
Struts 👎
Double wishbone 👍
@Sideways G yeah but aren't porsche's struts *inverted* ?
@Sideways G RSX is fine for normal driving. Look at some track setups for the ridiculous things people do to get those cars to rotate though. 2000lb rear springs, flipping the steering rack... they really dropped the ball with that car compared to the previous generation.
@@benpalumbo6726 This.
You're RSX is fine for canyon carving, and your not wrong for liking it but there's no denying that McPherson Struts is a cheaper, less performance setup.
In Hondas defense, yes, you would never notice the difference on roads. But that car along with the ditching of many mainstay models Eric mentioned marked a transition for Honda.
The fact that there was a Type R DC5 is embarrassing because it's absolutely not a track car anymore.
@EF8Max I'm not by any means a suspension expert, I'm just going off what track teams tell us. There's a cool MotoIQ video on RUclips you can find about the suspension... I think its an EP3 but its the same suspension.
Accord = double wishbone
The RSX was sold as the Integra outside of the United States.
Dont forget canada. Just cus were neighbors doesnt mean canada is part of it :p
@Sideways G McPherson strut < Double Wishbone Suspension.
@Sideways G
I've owned 2 Integra sedans & test drove my friends Rsx when he used to have it. It didn't handle as well as my teggys and I could tell immediately tell the difference in macpherson strut vs double wishbone, both in ride quality & handle.
Okay Eric, we got your least favorite Hondas, how about a video on your favorite Hondas? Also Prelude, next vehicle?
Watch my channel, I've owned just about all of them. ;)
ETCG1 you like the Acura vehicles
“The Hondas I Don’t Like”
Shows a S2000....
BLLLLLLASPHEMY!!!
😂
Some people just wanna watch the world burn lol
I get it, though. All the Honda's I loved died when the S 2000 was born. I love the S 2000, but you can't deny everything was much better before that car.
@@AaronAbbotttheoncomingstorm S2000 is a true honda sports car, along with NSX. I think if he actual drove one then he wouldn't hate it. Prelude, and del sol have nothing on a S2000.
the stock rearends are trash and they had a "dealer recall" on them. if they let you know about it.
@@ajuggas lol.
I have followed you for a few years now. Never commented but I thought this is a good time to chime in. Like you, I have 2 integras. Both 98 GSRs. One a black hatch and the other a green sedan. Both are originals with no modifications of any kind. I just find the integra a very very good car as a daily driver. Now, with the GSR or the Type-R. You get the added benefit of being able to go fastER and thus translates to being a very fun driving experience. Keep up with the good work. I enjoy you videos.
Good video. I fell in love with Honda's in 1988, I drove a then new '88 Accord sedan and I was blown away. Perfect size steering wheel in diameter and thickness, perfect shifter (it was a manual), clutch, etc. It was quiet, comfortable, fun, super plush (overly expensive) floor mats, door shut thunk was perfect, horn beep was spot on, driving dynamics were great, visibility (all that glass was awesome) and it was all wrapped up in a family sedan, seriously, I couldn't believe it. The other thing is every button, every knob, dial, etc. had a satisfying weight/heft and click to it. I grew up on GM cars, it was like comparing Metal Tonka trucks to Dollar Store plastic trucks from the bargain bin. Golden era Honda's, to me, run from the 80's to the 90's although I absolutely detested the 4th gen Prelude interior (dash reminded me of a GM design) loved the 2nd/3rd and 5th gen Preludes. Also never was a fan of the jelly bean design theme Honda had going on back then. Anything ever more of a sleeper fun car than a '91 Civic Si hatchback with a stick shift? I think one of the biggest let downs was the 5th gen Civic. I remember badly wanting a new '91 Civic or Accord but I was still in college. I remember graduating in '92 and going to the Honda dealership and being so let down with the then new '92 Civic with that cheap looking jelly bean design, the chintzy door handles and goofy headrests, to me, Honda lost my love for Civic with that specific car but later rebounded nicely the following generations. I own a 2008 Accord that I bought in 2009 (w/14k miles for my wife, it has 150k+ and will go to my son soon when he turns 16) and I "like" that car, it's been really good but I don't love it like I loved the 2nd, 3rd and 4th gen Accords, those were pretty much perfect, fun, reliable, inexpensive family sedans for the money imho.
I had a 1994 Acura Intergra I did all the maintenance on it two timing belts I got rid of it at almost 300K miles. Since I live in mid west the rust just started to kill everything. But I really loved that car. Been a Honda Fan since I was born. Currently drive a 2011 Civic Si which I will give to my son when my new 2020 Typre R in boost Blues comes in. Keep up the good work Eric and stay safe. I also never like the S2000 however recently it is starting to grow on me, maybe because there are so many limited ones out there.
"S2000 is a Miata with a long front end"
I will never unsee this 😣☹
Kinda like saying an Integra is a Corolla with stiffer suspension
I borrowed a 5 spd 83 Prelude in 1993. It was an amazing car for the time period. Best 3 days of my life. I could see the problem with pop up headlights though..
Respect your opinion. My friends thought I was crazy for buying a Delorean. It has a lot of problems but still one of my favorite cars. I never thought of the S2000 as a Miata with a long nose till you said it. Now I can’t unsee it that way!!
I have been a staunch Honda owner since the early 1990s. Each successive Honda I've owned (except my Odyssey), has been an incremental disappointment. From the clutch change on my 2004 Civic SI (remove the entire subframe?!) to the 2015 Accord LX (VTEC Cam gear not recalled for 2015 - but every 4-banger on either model year side?!). When I decided to make a substantial investment in a truck, I considered Honda's answer to the F150, but instead decided to give Ford another chance with my current F250 SD. Ride a little rougher than the Honda, but it's a truck and not a wannabe. Thanks for all you do for us shade-tree mechanics, Eric!
I wonder if Honda will ever come back around. The innovations they used to have, compared to the crap in the showrooms today - it's saddening.
Honda wasted a ton of time and money on things that squandered their talents;HondaJet, Asimo, IndyCar...not making any Acura rwd platform luxury cars like what Toyota did.Maybe one day when management comes to their senses they will. but Hyundai and Kia are cutting into their bottom line
I hope they do. I lost most of my respect for Honda when they replaced the absolutely amazing K20 and K24 engines that they used in their Civic SI with the new 1.5 turbo engines. I do not see those engines as an improvement, I see them as an ugly, complicated, problematic mess without enough of a benefit to justify its use. They are not innovative, they don't even have the VTEC system that Honda came up with decades ago.
@@copperlocks1 The home market in Japan has been in malaise for three decades as South Korea has been in growth. Toyota has responded better to changes than Honda. EVs will either boost some car makers, or ruin them. Honda isn't willing to go head to head with Toyota on the U.S. truck market, and thus far the Koreans have not done so either.
@@averyalexander2303 BMW has made similar moves toward turbos and the reliability has been lacking, but that is probably an interim move towards hybrid EVs
I hope so. The most interesting thing they've done in recent memory is the Honda E. Bold design choices in EVs is their chance to turn around. Otherwise, I don't think they're long for this world. Or at least the USDM market
Del sol vtec trim is the type r of del sols, in 94 in the US Honda gave it the 1.6 dohc vtec engine with short gearing transmission that made that car a force to be reckoned with back in 94.. the DEL SOL RECEIVED FIRST A DOHC VTEC POWERPLANT (b16a3) IN THE STATES BEFORE THE CIVIC... Then in 96-97 which may now become holy Grails pretty soon in the Honda tuner market, (which I luckily own one 1997 haha) received the VERY POPULAR B16a2 which many people know it BUT ONLY BECAUSE IT CAME OUT AS POWERPLANT FOR THE EXTREMELY POPULAR 99-00 CIVIC SI a couple of years later! THE 1997 vtec trim model received abs, Integra brakes all around, front strut bar, crossmemeber bar, front and rear sway bars. Fun fact, the front sway bar of a del sol vtec trim is the same size as a usdm model Integra type r front sway bar.
Early 90's was Honda's pinnacle.
Great info from a guy who knows more about Hondas than I. The quirkiest Honda I ever owned was a '71 Z600 Coupe. Drove it to death, and would do it all over again. The worst was the '07 Civic I just buried. No one should have to spend 4 hours replacing a starter...
The '94-'97 Honda Accords are my favorite Honda creations.
Thanks for this amazing video. I have a 2003 Accord sedan LX with a K24 engine mated to a 5-speed AT.
Apart from routine maintenance and some oil leak a couple of years ago, which I fixed, it still runs like new after ~16 years of use.
I hate the fact that recent Accords being manufactured are turbocharged. I would really have preferred Honda engineers work towards a naturally aspirated engine/option, mated with an AT. In as much as I love the efficiency of Honda, I place a premium on durability too. This was why I fell in love with Honda in the first place. These turbo engines won't last except they are just bought to be kept in museums.
I do hope I am not alone.
You are not alone👍. I own a 98 Prelude. It leaks oil and body is rusting out but dont want to get rid of it. It's the first stick shift I've owned and still has OE clutch.. 250k. 100% agreement with newer cars having turbos and CVTs👎
I had an 03 Type S and it had four transmissions replaced by 100,000 miles. I hated the front brakes. The steering wheel radio controls didn’t work. The volume knob would do whatever it wanted when you turned it. There was a rattle/squeak in the overhead console that I couldn’t find. Other than those minor things 😒 the fuel economy was great!
Im glad you didnt hate the 5th gen prelude i really would love to own one
I'm a big fan of the CB7 chassis Accords from '90-'93. I think this might've been the last car Soichiro Honda approved for production. Very well built and designed, and tough as nails. Parts are still readily available and cheap, and they last a long time. They can be left to handle like the cream puffs they are, or you can mod the suspension a little bit and they handle great. They also readily accept the H22 you're so fond of. I have two :)
What are some good sources for parts and/or instruction on upgrades the suspension? I also want to transfer in an h22 at some point.
Eric, You are THE BEST on the Web! :-) I am a former auto mechanic. I also have a lot of experience working on Hondas. Civics are my favorite. I have owned MANY. Great cars for many reasons. Keep up the good work! :-) Regards, Tim
I'd like to hear your detailed opinion of the TSX's sometime.
I owned an 07 tsx and that was an amazing vehicle.
@@ogH714 But did you own an Integra?
@@Ayeobe I actually have owned an integra but what does that have to do with the question with the tsx
Got rid of my 2010 tsx due to a bad vsa modulator. Convenient price of over $2,000 for another bad from factory unit which 2 separate Acura techs told me would also likely fail. I'll drive a bmw or something far more exciting than a Euro Accord if I have to buy $2,000 bad from factory parts in order to not lose 90% brake function. No thanks. Great car otherwise. Negated by that massive Achilles heel
@@RothBeyondTheGrave 1st gen TSX is the way to go. I own an 04 135k miles and runs like a dream. At the time the salesman tried to talk me into a 2010 model and it did nothing for me. I drove the 04 he had on the lot (yeah used car dealer) and I just fell in love with it.
This man just put it down folks.
I dare anyone to say that he's wrong.
Honda/Acura died in 2001. The RSX is absolute junk and I wouldn't give more than $1K for a Type-S and that's just so I could pull the motor and trash the chassis. I've had a 93' Cobra #1682 Vibrant Red (Around 430ish HP 331) still have my Dad's bought new 91' Red on grey 5-Speed Mustang GT, Had a GSX Eclipse etc etc etc.. However no car in my entire 32 years of life has me like my 99' GSR Integra.
I'll Touge the car in the mountains of TN at 3am at night and hang harsh off camber corners next to rock ledges at 90 MPH in this thing and all it ever says "Give me more.. more..MORE!!" I'm telling you I've driven them ALL when it comes to sports cars but their nothing better than a good sorted 90's Honda/Acura. Believe that. These cars are already legends but they will become legendary..
So, be good to them, because eventually the ricer kids will kill them off one by one.
Eric you know the old saying, Honda givith and Honda taketh away. It applies to way more than just their trim lines.
Hi, 1st time viewer: Just bought a 1998 Civic LX with 168K on it. Did a good tune up and fluid change. Still needs some love on the body but wow! What a car. Has new rubber and handles like a dream. Quite peppy too. I do have a question or two about the automatic but that can wait. Thanks and I agree Honda could have gotten more 'mileage' out of those models that were axed. You obviously know you stuff. Thanks for the info.
I used to have a 99 Civic SiR EM1 and I loved that car! Definitely one of my favorite Hondas I wish I had never sold it
Hearing a Honda/Acura expert's opinion is always valuable. BTW, that RSX was still Integra in Japanese market, which I'm sure you know. Honda did lose their spirit as "Being Different" some years ago. Even Honda enthusiasts in Japan have been pissed off for the last 15 years or so, because Honda switched to minivan/lightweight car company (lightweight cars are popular in Asia & certain parts of EU).
I also blame it on "globalization". When Honda/Acura vehicles were purely made in Japan & the U.S, they were fine cars but now parts are made all over the world, with not very impressive quality control.
Happy birthday! Btw, my 90 Accord was one of the best cars I've owned. That 2.2 was great.
As an owner of a ‘91 Accord LX, I wholeheartedly agree for me. Great looks with an extremely well-made interior. I only have a few gripes with it, but what a great car to drive.
'90 Accord EX checking in, fantastic car and I'd argue one of the best cars Honda made. My first car and I ran it up to 172k.
I had one and sold it to my daughter. She drives the absolute crap out of it and loves it. It's also her first manual car first Honda so I think we have a loyal convert lol.
renndub That’s great hear that it’s treating her so well and small world! My Accord is just the same for me when I got it, 3 years/36,000 miles ago and I don’t imagine ever parting with it. Hopefully, it treats us as well as Joe LoCicero’s! Always glad to hear of another happy 4th-generation Accord story!
I own a 2000 type R honda Integra 200k's full service and still fun!
As someone that also works on a lot of cars and specifically a lot of Hondas I couldn't agree more.
Honda really started ruining their automatics when they listened to their customers who complained about "harsh shifting." They started programming the transmissions to slip more between gears so it would feel smoother to the least common denominator of a buyer (therefore wearing faster). Anything with some power would just eat transmissions like crazy. I tell anyone to avoid any V6 Hondas made from about 97 to 2008.
The legends are some of my favorite cars AND favorite cars to work on. They are truly made to last an absolute eternity. I put a grand in maintenance parts into a friend's 1992 180k mile Legend a few weeks ago. When I was done I noticed that it had a burned out tail light bulb. Much to my surprise when I opened it up,the burned out bulb wasn't burned out, it just had a little bit of corrosion on it, so I cleaned it off, put some bulb grease on it and put it back in. Out of curiosity I checked the other bulbs, Every last one of them was the original KOITO factory bulb. On a 28 year old car!! That's just insane to me. (Not to mention I often see brand new Hyundais driving around with burned out tail lights!! lol)
I will have to ask my friend to share the story of his 1990 Legend with you sometime... The best 900 dollar car ever.
Finally, S2000s are great and can be fun but especially now they are overrated... I love engines you can rev the freaking balls off of but the S2k is literally slow until you hit vtec, and then it's just too little too late. It's also not as easy to daily drive like an Integra or even a miata... ...I also hate how the shifters feel in those. I've been driving stick for 18 years and every time I get in one I feel like I'm going to mis-shift because the throw is too short AND kinda vague. A bad combination!
I agree 100% on the transmissions. As soon as they started softening them up, they started to go bad on a regular basis. Thanks for your comment.
@@ETCG1 if you have one of those cars is there a conventional way to flash a controller to modify the shift points?
Yeah whats up with the bulbs Hyundai uses? They must be cheap junk I see them burned out all the time. I notice Prius taillights seem to go out a lot too and I believe those are LED's so you have to replace the whole assembly.
I agree, a lot of enthusiasts don't realize going from double a-arm to Macpherson strut suspension= no Bueno.
My first Honda, 3rd gen accord, was a love/hate relationship with me. It had more vacuum lines than I've ever seen on any vehicle which made it a pain for working vacuum leaks.
The Civics have maybe 5 vacuum lines for the whole engine. I always admired Hondas lack of emission equipment, basically just a vapor canister for the fuel vapor and a catalytic converter. They still seem to pass emissions easily even when they burn oil.
I have a 1986 honda civic wagon. Excellent car, except the vacuum lines can be nightmare fuel to some. However, I always appreciated the engineering behind them with all the electro-mechanical components.
Eric the Integra is so good I agree, I love my GS-R so much it's got 348k miles on it, 2nd engine (HMO swap b18c)
McPherson is just cheaper, easier, and smaller. An engineer can also explain why it's worse than almost everything. It's a matter of geometry etc.
double wishbones are the best
@Sideways G Porsche also stubbornly sticks to the inferior rear mounted engine and neuter's the mid engine Cayman (or whatever number they call it now) because if they were equal, the 911 would be destroyed, so what's your point?
johnkilo I believe he is referring to the 944. Porsche did a really good job making the strut suspension work on that car.
I had a 2003 Acura TL Type S, bought it certified with 30k and was only 3 years old. Drove it 30 miles from the dealership to home and 30 miles back to the dealership...where they replaced my AT. As for the trim and other little things...well you are spot on about that car!
Eric not liking Hondas? This quarantine is really getting to him lol haha jk
not liking "SOME" Hondas!!!
My auntie had a 1987 Acura Integra 5 speed. She got over 333,000 miles on it until it caught fire. And those were hard miles; lived in San Francisco for awhile (all the hills with a manual...) and tons of road trips up and down the west coast.
My first car was a '77 Accord hatchback with both a manual transmission and manual choke. Easy to work on. Taught myself how to do a tune-up using my Chilton's manual. Fun to drive, but rusted like crazy. Didn't make it to 100K.
2000 TL 3.2 here. Dealer changed recalled transmission in 07’. Still going strong 💪🏼
Honda Double wishbone suspension is the best. Still driving 91 JHM cb7 Accord as my daily. 👍
‘91 Accord owners unite!
Great video.
I like that you are talking about it from the perspective of someone who works in these cars professionally. Not from the point of a customer.
Agree on all except S2K, that car is legendary. Also, I thought for sure you'd include the 97-99 CL (aka Frontbutt) in your list .
I bought a new 2019 Pilot. Wow, what a disappointment. That was my 1st and last Honda. What drove me crazy was how loud and unrefined the noise level was. It almost sounded like the rear suspension was loose (it wasn't). The dash display that was so "busy" with "stuff'. The transmission felt like it was "holding back" when coasting as though it needed to upshift. It seemed that after engineering 70% of the car, they put into production. I kept the car for about 6 months and traded it in for a different brand.
I love the 2000 civic si, best car so far in my mind. Also the 2006 to 2011 civic, they are easy to work on and have minor issues if you keep up with regular maintenance. I agree about the prelude, awesome.
I agree with the 2000 Civic Si. It's a beautiful and fun car. But I disagree with the 8th Gen Civic. In my opinion, it's the ugliest civic of them all, especially the European version. The interior is nice, though
First time watching your videos, and gotta say they’re really good. You know what you’re talking about and it’s cool that you say it’s your opinion and you’re open to discussion. Good stuff.
Thanks for watching!
First gen CRVs were cool and more Jeep like, any civic with a stick are fun cars to drive, now Honda Acura CUVs and SUVs are soul less appliances that are meh.
James Nasto wrong
I loved my 2000 cr-v, it was wonderful. In fact, I'm likely going to buy another when it's feasible and do ridiculous things to it for fun
See above comment...started w/98 AWD CRV, 250K miles, loved it...briefly drove a 2002, totally different trucklike beast, hated it...now got a 2000, back to luv'n it.
Great snow car, utility stuff like hauling firewood, comfortably ergonomic, roomy, good on gas, and much more.
So glad to hear you shout out the prelude. I had 2 5th gens both type sh with full bolt ons and coil overs and still my favorite car I’ve ever owned. Bought the second one from a dismantler for $800 and hit the jackpot because it had a genuine mugen cat back on it and it sounded incredible
RSX is Integra in Japan...
and Australia
Also Acura doesn't exist in Japan. It's just known as Honda.
@@SI0AX Acura doesn't exist in Europe either to the best of my knowledge.
@@averyalexander2303 Oh, wow, so it's a US only thing? Have you guys always had the Honda Integra in all generations?
@@SI0AX Yeah I don't think Acura exists anywhere outside of North America. We got the Integras but it is called an Acura here rather than a Honda. And the last generation of the Integra (the DC5) is called an Acura RSX here.
I own a 2003 Acura TL Type-S A-Spec. The previous owner had already replaced the transmission which was good for me. I love the car, and I've been lucky with some of the issues you were mentioning about it. It's still running strong in 2021 with 320,000 km's.
I had a 1991 Civic HB, loved it. I got tired of the phrase, "I didn't see you."
I absolutely loved my wife's 95 Civic DX 2 dr coupe, teal green. Great MPG, great to drive, easy to take care of. Wish I had it back. Wife sold it last year with 95k miles. Her mother bought it new.
You have really good reasons why you dont like certain ones i thought it qas click bait at first aha. Glad my 97 crv isnt on the list 😬
Had an '03 tl that literally may have been mechanically totaled due to constant brake work alone. Died with its 3rd transmission in it. 1st went at 44k mi when my mom owned it before me. What's worse is she traded her FLAWLESS '94 Legend for it which drove no different at 205k mi as it did when new. '03 tl = worst Honda I've ever experienced. '94 Legend = aside from an '89 Camry I had, most consistent car I've ever experienced. They'll NEVER make them like that, period.
I can definitely get behind the old TL cause it had a dumpster fire of a trans but ya broke my heart when ya said the S2000 and the RSX😭
I agree with you about the RSX -- you nailed it on that one. Definitely a downgrade from an Integra. The Integra was an awesome car -- absolutely amazing. But I disagree with you about the S2000 - that's a way better car than the Del Sol. I've never been a fan of the Del Sol. It's just not as good looking as the S2000, and it's *so* slow. I'd take an S2000 any day. Even over a Miata, actually. The S2000 is the best 2-seater Japanese roadster, in my opinion, especially when it's been supercharged.
What about the 04-08 TSX? They still had double wishbones and the K Series.... That was the last of the great hondas IMO
Last of the Great Hondas...nope. That ended in 2000 with the Civic.
@@ericxiong6582 idk bro my 4g tl feels very planted at high speeds with good tires
You’re making me miss my (very long hooded) 1998 3.2TL w/ that longitudinal C32 and my 1991 Integra GS sedan. Glad they didn’t show up on your list.
plz now make a video of the Hondas you do like :D
Had several integra’s and really loved them, in the rust belt in Canada and there are not many around in a solid format. Had a few others, a CL and a RSX. Paused then and picked up a 2018 TLX, SH AWD A SPEC V6. Now that’s a fun car to drive, love it and is summer driven only! Miss the old integra. Love yours. Love the video’s keep them coming..
Yeah, Honda switching to McPherson on all their lineup was the cornerstone for Honda. The suspension would never be anywhere close to what it was before.
Pretty sure you mean turning point, watershed moment, or sea change? A cornerstone is something that you base everything else off of
My Honda of choice is the Prelude. I own a 91' 3rd gen with a h22a engine in it and a 96' 5th gen as a beater and a Lexus IS200 as my daily. I absolutely love the 3rd gen Preludes styling and with the h22 it's a beast. Hoping I never need to part with it. Wish we had Integras where I live probably would own one as well. Would love to own a CRX too those things look sexy. Unfortunately every time they come up for sale here they are heavily moded or are complete pieces of junk and not worth the enormous rarity tax that people think the car deserves.
You had a ‘91 with a H22 conversion? Lucky bastard. I thought about doing that to my ‘89 but decided to sell it instead.
Yeah really, imagine how awesome the Prelude would be by now. 6-speed, turbo...... Just imagine
I acquired a 2001TL with lots of little problems. The rotor issue was a tough nut to crack but in the end the car had 230k mileage and the original front end and steering components. The left rotor was replaced and within a month the vibration on braking and pull to the left was back. High mileage made replacing components acceptable since if they were not bad they were well worn. Replaced tie rods, bearings, and ball joints then resurfaced that left front rotor and all the ride and steering issues were gone. My theory is the worn steering components would reach a harmonic vibration and increased wear at specific location on the rotor during moderate breaking. Over time there was a high spot on each side of the rotor 180deg apart. This made for violent shimmy when breaking hard.
It interesting to hear your opinion on cars enthusiasts like and cars technicians like and vice versa.
My dad is also a Honda mechanic and he hates modern Hondas, especially the turbo ones.
From a technician’s perspective: people should buy more Chevys, because, $$.
i don't really have much experience with hondas (except for the fireblade and the cbr600f) but when i was a kid, my mom had a 1995 Civic LSI Coupe with which we were travelling to croatia every year during summer break and sometimes even for the winterholidays. i thought the car looked cool and i liked the sound the engine made. 90hp seemed plenty to me back then, cause my dad drove a ford fiesta with 55hp i think. my moms civic had run a little over 400.000km when some woman ran a redlight on an intersection and crashed into it. insurance covered the body repair, but later it was discovered that the crash has caused a crack in the engine block, the car ran funny after that crash, burned oil and water, first it was thought the headgasket was gone, but it was the previously mentioned crack. my mom sold it for 500€ to some guy who had a spare engine in his backyard. it had almost half a million kilometers by that point.
8:04 Whaaaaaaat?!! Pop up headlights are amongst the top 3 of coolest things on a car! :-)
When they work.
My wife and I had a '00 Honda CRV and drove it 315,000 miles during college. The thing was a trouble free tank as long as you kept good balanced tires on it. (AWD system is touchy with worn tires) The A/C died at 120k and at 220k miles, the cat went bad at 289k but other than that we had no issues with it. I'd buy another one today if that's all I could afford or had to buy a beater for someone. We ended up selling it to an oversea shipper for $3500. :)
Haha, I knew Prelude would make the list. I love my 3rd gen, but it is EFI... and 4WS, so I have 16+ ball joints 😂😂; the USDM 4WS was mechanical, 29 years old and no issues.
@Christopher gendron, So jealous. I had the 2 wheel steering carborated automatic base. Boooo. QUESTION, does your 4 wheel steering model have super light steering, like steering pinky finger only from rack to rack? Mine was like that, always wondered if 4ws had crazy light steering too.
I have a 91 4ws. Still makes me smile. But it is not fun to work on. That low hood means there is no space to do anything.
@@foellerd it is the greatest. Light and agile like no other, it turns easily and quickly. My 5th Gen feels like a pregnant cow in comparison. It is a beacon from the Golden Age of Honda.
I've owned 3 s models but never an si and doing a swap was well out of reach with the b20a5 pulling a premium for no reason as well as not finding them in junkyards around me.
@@rodneybryant1326 Si was a good package. The B20 was a solid motor, iron sleeves (unlike the later B21). Go buy one now, well worth the money.
agree the Type R is one of my favorite Hondas but If only they sold them here with the JDM type headlights I do not like the USDM circle headlights
I own a 2003 acura tl type s and when I saw this video I knew my car was going to be on this list 😂😂
Same lmao
I had an 86 SE prelude,fuel injection. Ran perfect up to 450ish thousand kms. I currently have a 92 Civic si hatch with a toasted motor at 462 thousand,a 2001 Prelude,5 speed,leather interior and a 14 civic coupe 5 speed. My wife has a nice 05 TL to round out my Honda collection 😎
I think every car company has some dark spots that drive us crazy lol. Some longer than others for sure.
98-02 Honda Accord EX-L Coup 4 cyl manual. Best car I've ever had. Super, super reliable. I had 350,000 miles on mine when I sold it and it still had the factory clutch. The V6s had the same problems as the 99-03 TL with the automatic trans.
I rather have the NSX than a Vett.
I bought my first Integra 4 years ago when I was 15(didn't even have a license). Bought another one when I was 18(last year). Plan on resto-modding one to summer drive until I finish college. Complete build video will be on my channel sometime in November hopefully.
I think Honda cheaped out all around starting around 98-2000, and did not start getting their stuff back together until around 2013.
The first car i bought was a 94 prelude 2.2 and i own it to this day, that is 12 years now.
These sound more personal lol 😂
I had a 1996 Prelude SI with the H23, swapped a JDM H22A and with a chipped and tuned ecu, that car was a blast. Got hit by 3 major hail storms in DFW, pulled the engine and sold her to the junk yard. One of the coolest Honda's IMO
I will always love Hondas, but honestly, they have had some real turds over the past 15-20 years.
All companies have, my friend. Lol
@@murkinstock Very true, some more than others for sure. It's just hard for me to see the company that made some of the best cars in modern history fall on its face.
Also, a pro tip: Dont buy a Subaru.
@@tjw8t1 What's wrong with a Subaru, besides the head-gasket problems and piston ring failures?
The 1994 Honda Civic LX - grey exterior/grey interior. Drove til' 285,000 miles - replaced the engine with a JDM motor from TX back at 190,000 when the original motor lost its head gasket the 2nd time. Bought it back in Sept 2001 with 74k miles from the dealer that I traded the 1988 Civic that the thermostat slammed shut and roasted the motor at 200k. A/C worked every year I had it, and it was a great long distance driver with great gas mileage - 34 to 38 mpg. Had to get rid of it due to severe rust issues at the rear dogleg area and wheel arches. Traded it in for a 03 Honda CR-V LX with 94k miles . Still miss the 94 Civic.......
I'm crying trying to save for an s2000 :(
Me too. The annoying thing is, the more we wait, the more destroyed these cars will be and harder for us to get one in good condition.
@@ruinunes8251 lol look at the ae86 corolla. Early 2000s you found then for 2-3k eveb less. Now a "ok" example is 10-15k. Ive seen a ae86 auto with most of the body rusted. Still sold for 7k
mike n the same with the s2000. I have seen some of them full of rust falling apart and they go really expensive. It is almost cheaper buy gold than buying a S2000
One of my all time favorites was my girl friend's 1993 Accord 2 door SE High Output. Leather, Factory Bose Automatic. It was probably a 4 speed auto. The ride was fairly supple but it handled quite well. That car just really amazed me at how quick it was. Interior, comfort, it was a pleasure to drive. I almost cried the day she traded it on a plain Jane Subaru Impreza 4 door hatch.
Didn't like the s2k I almost clicked dislike.
same
my Honda love list:
NA1>DC2>EG6>AP1>FA5>EG2>DC5>EP3
0:55 😯 that's it unsubscribe. your getting to conversational Eric 😂😂 each to his own.
I was like, what's "getting to conversational Eric" and I was like, what/who is "conversational" Eric?
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Now I get it.
A year after my prior question I'm watching this video again and have decided I would consult you before I ever buy a Honda. My very first car was almost a Honda Accord way back when they first started selling them. If I buy a Honda at some point in the future it would most likely be a CRV or Pathfinder.
Have to say I agree regarding the change in Honda’s around 2000-ish. Family and friends had several 80s and 90s Honda’s that were great vehicles. My dad bought his first Honda in 2001, a brand new Civic. He had many fitment/trim issues as well as various other issues to the point where the dealer swapped it out for a 2002 Civic. Same issues. My brother had issues with his 2008 Civic as well. Have to say this colored our experience with Honda and my dad would be hard pressed to buy another one after his Civics. Nearly our entire family drives Subaru’s at this point and they have been wonderful cars.
I feel bad for anyone that bought an Automatic 99-03 TL Brand new
Completely agree with you!!! Acura manual are awesome cars. Type R yes were awesome cars. You can't just find those type R... .
Owners aren’t selling. Took me six months to convince a friend to sell me his. It was worth it.
Have to agree with you Eric about the Integras handling. Love my 94 Integra GSR! Will never sell it!
I never knew you owned a prelude back then and im happy to know that you did! I own a 1998 prelude and love the h22. If you ever get your hands on a prelude and start to do some work on it, that would be awesome! We need more prelude content out there on youtube
Helped my aunt pick out a 02 TL typeS in 02 very pretty sedan if you ask me and I felt like a hero cause she went from a caravan with constant transmission troubles to a nice reliable Honda product. Lost track of how many times she had to take that TL in for transmission troubles but I think the entire thing had to be replaced twice. 😧
This video is the most excellent 8 minutes on Hondas I have seen. Way to go Erik !
Thanks!
My 98 civic was bulletproof. Great motor, bad input shaft bearings for 10years, still never failed.
My 87 accord lxi with the efi ran to 296k miles, original motor and auto trans, still shifted and ran GREAT. Head gasket went and we decided our car that we joked was totaled every time it ran out of gas was due to be retired.