How Scrappers Cash In On Gold From Your Old Computer | World Wide Waste | Business Insider

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @BusinessInsider
    @BusinessInsider  8 месяцев назад +17

    Want to see more of this trash? Have a question? Let us know! Send tips about surprising or innovative ways people deal with garbage to worldwidewaste@businessinsider.com. Your message could inspire our next episode!

    • @albertbas2837
      @albertbas2837 5 месяцев назад

      why do you have English voice quieter than for example other languages voice, that no one can understand? LOL. That makes this video hard to listen to, and lowers your audience, just a friendly advice

  • @TheOtherGuy27
    @TheOtherGuy27 10 месяцев назад +1980

    If we really want to reduce e-waste we need to force companies to start making products that are repairable again instead of designing them to be thrown out and replaced.

    • @UrSSuL
      @UrSSuL 10 месяцев назад +29

      Electrification will make E- waste explode

    • @302big5
      @302big5 10 месяцев назад +78

      And upgradeable with interchangeable parts. Like how you can build your own pc, should be like that for phones and different phone brands. So over the years you’ll end up wit a different phone but through parts and updates. Not buying entire new computer, game console.

    • @UrSSuL
      @UrSSuL 10 месяцев назад

      @@302big5 imagine that being the case for game consoles, where we wouldn't have been today

    • @caragas9331
      @caragas9331 10 месяцев назад +25

      But company cannot survie on that. they need a constant need of products.

    • @kinghenry7058
      @kinghenry7058 10 месяцев назад +28

      ​@caragas9331 just constantly sell "new and exciting!" product-parts that are just a step or two better every few years. those susceptible to the temptation will buy new parts each year and sell or scrap their old parts

  • @sirheisenberg4459
    @sirheisenberg4459 12 дней назад +297

    Gold and Silver are "outside the system" savings accounts for me and only buy on huge dips like we have seen recently. Buying Gold and Silver keeps me from spending money on silly and unnecessary purchases. Holding physical Gold and Silver allows me to quickly pull in emergency needs and sell at my LCS and walk away with cash when needed. Not looking for it to moon and get rich off the purchases

    • @Tanner-c2m
      @Tanner-c2m 12 дней назад

      I 100% agree, it is basically an inflation hedge, or insurance. Not dumb to own, but if you are looking for returns and compounding growth, look elsewhere.if you don’t have the discipline to avoid silly purchases, buying gold wont help you. learn self control.

    • @PremSteve-yg4de
      @PremSteve-yg4de 12 дней назад

      In the current circumstances, it's wise to diversify by moving investments from real estate to financial markets or gold, despite potential future drops in home prices. Considering prevailing mortgage rates and economic uncertainty, seeking advice from a knowledgeable independent financial advisor is advisable for guidance.

    • @samuelrandy-k8x
      @samuelrandy-k8x 12 дней назад

      How can I participate in this? I sincerely aspire to establish a secure financial future and am eager to participate. Who is the driving force behind your success?

    • @PremSteve-yg4de
      @PremSteve-yg4de 12 дней назад

      REBECCA NASSAR DUNNE is her name. She is regarded as a genius in her area and works for Equity Services inc. She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

    • @PennyBernadette
      @PennyBernadette 12 дней назад

      Found her webpage, I wrote her an email and scheduled a call. Hopefully she responds. Thank you.

  • @nkag545
    @nkag545 10 месяцев назад +543

    This takes "one man's trash is another man's treasure" to the next level.

    • @rewindcat7927
      @rewindcat7927 10 месяцев назад +3

      10X your trash 😂

    • @StqindYT
      @StqindYT 10 месяцев назад +1

      @Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1 pursuasion does not always work my guy.

    • @Tripleblyet
      @Tripleblyet 10 месяцев назад +3

      why do you post these in comments?@Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1

    • @gabox17da88
      @gabox17da88 9 месяцев назад +3

      If you consider treasure as gold, then it also takes it to the literal level

    • @rewindcat7927
      @rewindcat7927 9 месяцев назад

      @@gabox17da88 the real treasure is the comments we read along the way 😊

  • @BinneReitsma
    @BinneReitsma 10 месяцев назад +615

    In the Netherlands there's a big problem called 'weeelabex'
    This means if you own a business then it's illegal if you dismantle electronics, with the exception if you get a very expensive and regulated licence.
    So allot of people sell it illegally overseas.. Talk about environmental friendly.

    • @robertthallium6883
      @robertthallium6883 10 месяцев назад +107

      Refreshing to hear other country bureaucrats are just as boring as USA.

    • @hermaeusmora2945
      @hermaeusmora2945 10 месяцев назад +29

      Why is it illegal to dismantle electronics?

    • @BinneReitsma
      @BinneReitsma 10 месяцев назад

      @@hermaeusmora2945 only with a license, if not you get fined big..
      Why? Big companies got a monopoly position

    • @andreabc1469
      @andreabc1469 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@robertthallium6883 😂

    • @andreabc1469
      @andreabc1469 10 месяцев назад +22

      @@hermaeusmora2945 Only certified companies are allowed to handle electronic waste due to environmental risks

  • @wood6454
    @wood6454 10 месяцев назад +519

    They went to old mines to harvest specific types of bacteria to help with their extraction process. How cool!

    • @gayraffe
      @gayraffe 10 месяцев назад +3

      really? that's pretty cool!

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад +8

      you are being sarcastic...
      but the bacteria now can break down plastic into fuel... jokes on you

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад +9

      ​@@gayraffehe was ironically being sarcastic and actually its true... little does he know 😅

    • @lord_rainbowman
      @lord_rainbowman 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@dertythegrower you dont need bacteria to turn plastic into fuel just pyrolysis

    • @PunMister
      @PunMister 10 месяцев назад +10

      @@dertythegrower It didn't read like sarcasm to me. You may be misinterpreting over text

  • @josephacosta5252
    @josephacosta5252 10 месяцев назад +65

    Here's a rough idea/business plan for Mint:
    1) Create a nonprofit arm focused on developing countries.
    2) Open a new processing plant in Dehli, India.
    3) Recruit and train the people currently working on electronic stripping into full, safety-regulated employment in the plant. (Unsure what the age labor laws are there, but there could also be a combination of school credit and money paid to kids working there.)
    4) Repeat this process in other developing countries where we "outsource" electrical recycling.
    A plan like this can make a difference where "developed" have historically created problems by dumping such waste.
    Great video and cool companies!

    • @donovanlewis6708
      @donovanlewis6708 9 месяцев назад +11

      It’s unfortunate that this right thing to do never deems profitable enough to make companies execute this

    • @-e6195
      @-e6195 9 месяцев назад

      @@donovanlewis6708 that and the fact that , this company would be raided daily by organized crime

    • @jii-khoh8620
      @jii-khoh8620 9 месяцев назад +4

      thats makes no sense at all to open in india as there labour is cheaper than doing it automated and the costs of you having to ship to india not cheap at all
      it only works to do in the 1st world were labour costs are high and were most of the waste comes from and no need for expensive shipping

    • @John.Flower.Productions
      @John.Flower.Productions 9 месяцев назад

      The business plan is to use idiots in the government to force citizens to pay to make the company money, at a horrible cost to the taxpayer and environment.

    • @vanhalenps4
      @vanhalenps4 9 месяцев назад +2

      The plant is almost fully automated like a dozen people can run the entire operation.
      You'd end up with a big security problem

  • @jackt883
    @jackt883 10 месяцев назад +695

    I am intrigued to know what happens to the 70% plastic that was shredded and turned into a pulp.

    • @BinneReitsma
      @BinneReitsma 10 месяцев назад +149

      Usually gets burned by waste plants for energy.

    • @Bluenautica
      @Bluenautica 10 месяцев назад +49

      Since they already use some bacterial and fungal species to collect and absorb some of the metals, they might have some fungi or bacteria that specifically break down plastics.

    • @SamCruise
      @SamCruise 10 месяцев назад +93

      ​@@Bluenautica Not yet, but they are working on a bacteria derived from wax worms.

    • @tomsriver2838
      @tomsriver2838 10 месяцев назад +13

      Smoothie for the braves 😋

    • @JohnHesse-v8g
      @JohnHesse-v8g 10 месяцев назад +20

      Landfill. Plastics aren't recycled.

  • @Penultimeat
    @Penultimeat 10 месяцев назад +124

    That’s actually a really impressive facility Mint has there

  • @fraugiblets6955
    @fraugiblets6955 10 месяцев назад +263

    Old but literally gold.

    • @jont2576
      @jont2576 10 месяцев назад +7

      just to get that much gold they literally have to reprocess god knows how many tons of motherboards.

    • @owenkelsey6279
      @owenkelsey6279 10 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah and the fact there’s like incredibly small pieces of gold in old computers makes these guys want to rip them apart when some old computers are fine and work normally but still go into the shredder to make like .0001 USD when it could have a resale value of much more.

  • @CameronFussner
    @CameronFussner 2 месяца назад +588

    People choose to buy gold for various reasons, such as it’s historical role as a store of value and medium of exchange, it’s potential as a hedge against inflation or currency devaluation, and it’s relative scarcity compared to other commodities. Gold also offers diversification benefits to investment portfolio due to its low correlation with stocks and bonds. However, investing in gold carries risks and may not be suitable for everyone. Investors should carefully evaluate their objectives, risk tolerance and financial situation before deciding.

    • @fadhshf
      @fadhshf 2 месяца назад +4

      Investing in gold is a reliable choice, and I plan to keep buying more to make up for my losses. While silver, stocks and digital currencies are also good investment, my collectibles are not as similar. It's important to have clear investment goals and educate yourself on the type of investment that interests you..

    • @hasede-lg9hj
      @hasede-lg9hj 2 месяца назад +3

      Yes, gold is a great investment and a good bet against the devaluating dollar, been holding some for awhile now, I’m grateful my adviser’s moment by moment changes in the market are lightening quick, cos who know how much losses I would’ve had by now.

    • @lowcostfresh2266
      @lowcostfresh2266 2 месяца назад

      @@hasede-lg9hj this is all new to me, where do I find a fiduciary, can you recommend any?

    • @lowcostfresh2266
      @lowcostfresh2266 2 месяца назад +1

      this is all new to me, where do I find a fiduciary, can you recommend any?

    • @hasede-lg9hj
      @hasede-lg9hj 2 месяца назад +2

      Finding financial advisors like Annette Marie Holt who can help you shape your portfolio would be a very creative option. There will be difficult times ahead, and prudent personal money management will be essential to navigating them.

  • @Sean-tn7xm
    @Sean-tn7xm 10 месяцев назад +186

    I was in a high school program for kids who were getting into trouble a lot. Where we would have to tear apart old computers all day and sort the pieces into cardboard boxes I always wondered how much money they were making off us.

    • @asfsfas2435
      @asfsfas2435 10 месяцев назад +4

      cost of recycle have always been high, let's hope they can keep it running

    • @kinghenry7058
      @kinghenry7058 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@asfsfas2435 can you see this comment?

    • @sleepyjoe7843
      @sleepyjoe7843 10 месяцев назад +9

      Answer is: below average hourly wage. These computers are not yours so you can't add that money.

    • @sleepyjoe7843
      @sleepyjoe7843 10 месяцев назад +4

      @Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1 Yeah turn the other cheek. Matthew 5:38-40

    • @HonestVirtue315
      @HonestVirtue315 10 месяцев назад

      @Repent-and-believe-in-Jesus1 Harry Potter The Chamber of Secrets. Chapter 18. "Dobby has a sock! Dobby is a Free Elf!" Glad we are sharing fictional pieces of literature!

  • @markae0
    @markae0 10 месяцев назад +55

    The parts are so rare today that their value to people who want old computers is greater than the melt price. The supply IS limited and you can not find old computers anymore, that have large amounts of Gold in them.

    • @Puddycat00
      @Puddycat00 10 месяцев назад +5

      Ughh I have a few old laptops in my attic and we just threw out two very old desk top computers . I didn’t think they were worth anything. The local computer repair shop gladly took it from us to recycle. We just wanted them gone. Too big and awaste of space . Now that I think about it, I’ve given away a lot of valuable stuff. Just to get rid of, or because it was a gift from an ex and I wanted the memory gone.

    • @Ornithopter470
      @Ornithopter470 10 месяцев назад +11

      Even in old computers, there's not a huge amount of gold in your average apple II.

    • @flyagaric007
      @flyagaric007 10 месяцев назад +15

      @@Puddycat00 to get 1gram of gold you need about 100 old computers,dont worry you didnt waste much

    • @the_mariocrafter
      @the_mariocrafter 10 месяцев назад

      @@flyagaric007agree

    • @DecibelAlex
      @DecibelAlex 10 месяцев назад +2

      @@flyagaric007 that's not what the post is about

  • @aikotoba99
    @aikotoba99 9 месяцев назад +31

    People may call me cheap but I hold onto my electronics until I absolutely can't do anything with them. I take pride in being cheap and not wanting to produce more e-waste. Some time back, there was a 60 minutes story about children in China picking apart hazardous e-waste for just a few dollars a day. The water was undrinkable in their village due to massive amounts of chemicals. That really broke my heart to see that. We wouldn't want that for our kids or anyone else's kids or anyone for that matter. Be proud , be cheap and do your part to reduce waste.

    • @anisalikanchwala
      @anisalikanchwala 8 месяцев назад

      Can you share the video link which you mentioned?

  • @moonlitcreeper4087
    @moonlitcreeper4087 10 месяцев назад +64

    I did this for years from 1999 to 2006, but most of them I repurposed into homes that couldn't afford them... It was a hobby, and a learning experience.

    • @michaelzedalis4690
      @michaelzedalis4690 9 месяцев назад +3

      Was it worth it?

    • @moonlitcreeper4087
      @moonlitcreeper4087 9 месяцев назад

      @@michaelzedalis4690 yes, it was.. the satisfaction of watching someone succeed where they wouldn't have is a priceless feeling.

    • @be4stable
      @be4stable 8 месяцев назад

      @@michaelzedalis4690 absolutely not lmao

    • @Smile200-z4y
      @Smile200-z4y 8 месяцев назад

      Depends. On its own yes but if there was a much better way of doing it then it be considered a waste. 7 years is a lot of time to expand and improve on your hobby.

    • @moonlitcreeper4087
      @moonlitcreeper4087 8 месяцев назад

      @@michaelzedalis4690 yes

  • @aye3678
    @aye3678 10 месяцев назад +138

    That's awesome! Golden opportunity to turn waste into precious metals and these guys nail it!

    • @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket
      @GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket 10 месяцев назад +22

      This is bogus nonsense. I had a friend who had STACKS of various CPU's and RAM back in the day, he barely got a tiny bead out of all of it. You'd need THOUSANDS, maybe tens of thousands computers make $85 in gold off it.

    • @giornikitop5373
      @giornikitop5373 10 месяцев назад

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket yeah, chip interconnects used gold decades ago, when the silicon production was not so advance and the scale wasn't in nanometers. sure you can collect all the "retro" hardware you can find, but several tons are needed to make a tiny quantity of gold. $85k a day? unlikely, unless he managed to find all the monsterous supercomputer chips that still exist. you need extreme knowledge of exactly which electronics have the potential to make this kind of worth the risk. i'm sure he makes more money with general elctr. recycling, than extracted gold.

    • @robertlee6338
      @robertlee6338 10 месяцев назад

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket Only need about 3 old computers or 8 modern computers to make $85 in gold
      But its not worth it, getting an education is better outcome

    • @andreabc1469
      @andreabc1469 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket no, old CPU is 0,1 g Gold, you need 10 for a gram

    • @jackmclane1826
      @jackmclane1826 10 месяцев назад +5

      That business model will break down soon. Modern electronics are so low in valuable content, that in 5 years you won't be able to make money on it. Except if the gold price multiplies by 10.

  • @tihzho
    @tihzho 10 месяцев назад +165

    0:39 That computer is worth more as is than the gold extracted from it - about $280 for collectors

    • @cyberchiefx
      @cyberchiefx 10 месяцев назад +37

      11:20 they clearly say it's part of his own collection, not for recycling.

    • @coagulantLegume
      @coagulantLegume 10 месяцев назад +25

      @@cyberchiefx they also said that he might want to consider scrapping them since they have more gold than modern tech. which... like, i get it technically, but that's like saying you should melt down a gold coin from ancient egypt. the form and the history have way more value than the material. it will also increase in value over time, unlike the gold inside it.

    • @kenroberts9082
      @kenroberts9082 10 месяцев назад

      I shur would like to find a collector who would pay that kind of money here in Southern Ohio.

    • @meepk633
      @meepk633 10 месяцев назад

      How are you going to get it to the collector?

    • @tihzho
      @tihzho 10 месяцев назад

      @@meepk633 eBay

  • @ironspider9280
    @ironspider9280 10 месяцев назад +103

    This is absolutely beautiful. We need more work like this being done in the world.

    • @merlinwarage
      @merlinwarage 10 месяцев назад +2

      Why aren't you do it?

    • @mariuxxxx1
      @mariuxxxx1 10 месяцев назад +6

      nothing is beautiful here guy literally said it's hard labor for a single person you earn better at MC donalds you need expensive eqipment to handle all that waste i'm not even talking about how unhealthy it is to scrap that at home

    • @Rem_NL
      @Rem_NL 10 месяцев назад

      There are many people out of jobs and they might not be the most wanted people by your average HR department. These people do a fine job in these centers and gives them a sense of purpose. I have done this work myself with many others. The money it brings in go's to refugee programs and animal welfare/meat alternative research. Which makes the work people do there even more rewarding. @@mariuxxxx1

    • @aidanconnolly9170
      @aidanconnolly9170 10 месяцев назад

      ⁠@@mariuxxxx1did you watch the same video that I did? The whole point of the video was stating that this new company is using a larger scale and new technology to improve the process so it is less harmful and more efficient.

  • @Stop4MotionMakr
    @Stop4MotionMakr 10 месяцев назад +18

    That gold bar is more beautiful than any gold jewellery I've ever seen 🤩

  • @Alexibawendi
    @Alexibawendi 6 месяцев назад +83

    As a newbie that wants to invest, you must have these three things in mind
    1. Have a long term mindset.
    2. Be willing to take risk.
    3. Be careful on money usage, if you're not spending to earn back, then stop spending.
    4. Never claim to know - Ask questions and it's best you work with a financial advisor.

    • @KaterinaEvan159
      @KaterinaEvan159 6 месяцев назад

      How
      ..? Am a newbie in crypto investment, please can you guide me through on how you made profit?

    • @Alexibawendi
      @Alexibawendi 6 месяцев назад

      YES!!! That's exactly her name (Maria Davis) so many people have recommended highly about her and am just starting with her 😊 from Brisbane Australia🇦🇺

    • @Louisbrus498
      @Louisbrus498 6 месяцев назад +1

      Wow I'm just shocked you mentioned Maria Davis, thought I'm the only one trading with her

    • @KaterinaEvan159
      @KaterinaEvan159 6 месяцев назад

      Alright thanks for the recommendation, but how do I reach her?

    • @Louisbrus498
      @Louisbrus498 6 месяцев назад

      Sure! She interacts on what's Apk using the digit below 👇

  • @farukdee7502
    @farukdee7502 10 месяцев назад +57

    “..family nicknamed it flash because it’s red, it’s electric and it buzzes around everywhere” is absolutely gold.

  • @yardmine
    @yardmine 9 месяцев назад +8

    We’re actually writing a book on this right now for the US market. Will definitely be reaching out to Wade.

    • @justinzoohouse9918
      @justinzoohouse9918 9 месяцев назад +1

      Tons of electronics recycling companies in the US already. My facility processes 40000lbs a month. 2 semi trucks. Look up R2 certified companies and you will find a ton of responsible electronics recyclers.

    • @_TheOgre_
      @_TheOgre_ 9 месяцев назад

      @@justinzoohouse9918Is it a well established market already? How does starting up somewhere like central Colorado look like?
      Been toying with this idea for the last couple of weeks since I first seen this video. Was interested in picking at someone’s brain who is either in this business or works adjacent to it.

  • @ronaldcole7415
    @ronaldcole7415 8 месяцев назад +4

    There was once a small jetti that shot off Midway Island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean at the site of the famous Naval battle. I was stationed there in 1981 - 1982. It was called the marine dump. Everything and anything the Naval command disregarded for whatever reason ended up in the marine dump. There were F4 phantom jets. Huge old computers. And things I couldn't identify. The place was off limits and I never gave it a thought.
    However, there was an older guy, I'll call him Beamer that knew far more than the rest of us. The isoand was going to close for awhile in 1982 and we were all being reassigned. Beamer decided we all needed to through a final farewell and have a great party. BBQ, drinks, beer, all the girls from the nursing school, the whole nine yards.
    After that party, which was only 5 days out from most of us leaving, Beamer invited me to his private room to have some farewell cocktails of some special stuff he was saving. While drinking that night, he showed me an huge electric smelter he had somehow bought and had flown to the island which he hidep in an old firehouse barracks. Hising such things wasn't hard on Midway. We also had a giant diesel generator capable of lighting up half the island which hw plugged the electric smelter into.
    Well, turns out ole Beamer was going to the marine dump several times a week a night digging put previous metals from all the old discarded equipment. He peeled off all the titanium from the F4 jets and made bard of it qhen titanium was so valuable it made gold look like tin foil. He smelted hundreds of pounds of gold, platinum and all sorts of other metals and had it all shipped to San Francisco. He had told me he had sold over 6.5 million dollars of the stuff in a 3 and a half year period. And this was 1982. The Navy considered it junk, but he still kept his mouth shut.
    This is the first time Ive told the story and I'm pretty sure Beamer is no longer with us. But it made me aware from back then all the computer stuff since 1981 was valuable. And I too took notice.

  • @Kalendale
    @Kalendale 10 месяцев назад +11

    1:11 Ya, that Apple II is getting sold as vintage instead of getting processed.

  • @marcusseal1647
    @marcusseal1647 9 месяцев назад +3

    This is what I do, only not as advanced as Wade's setup we don't break things down in the warehouse into materials, we basically refurbish ewaste if someone wants to buy it, if not we break it down into parts eg circuit boards with gold plating and sort those to send off, I have gloves and we have a hydraulic press to separate metals (although I never used it)
    I'm from England and I genuinely love this job, I work with a few people it's like a small team and this isn't my real job, only my work experience but I genuinely love it and I hope I can do this as a career
    I am actually treated well and respected in my work and it's just a great energy from everyone even my boss is so damn nice and chill and I reach my qoutas well

    • @watermang1680
      @watermang1680 9 месяцев назад

      In the uk aswell, how did you come across the people you work with,? it's something i'd like to get into myself.

    • @marcusseal1647
      @marcusseal1647 9 месяцев назад

      I knew a teaching assistant at college who's cousin done this work, so I got lucky

  • @ibec69
    @ibec69 10 месяцев назад +13

    The best e-waste comes from decommissioned army boats and submarines. There’s so much gold in the boards they use in the consoles. Also old school Pentium Pro CPUs are highly regarded and sought after for their gold content.

    • @zaaxi7424
      @zaaxi7424 2 месяца назад

      I will check my local landfill for the decommissioned subs

  • @deano6912
    @deano6912 9 месяцев назад +12

    Well done Wade and Mint. The useless governments in Australia should be providing financial backing to help acquire the equipment needed rather than wasting it like they love to do. The private sector leads the way…..again.

  • @TiborRoussou
    @TiborRoussou 10 месяцев назад +6

    I'm one man, with one truck and a small garage. I live in a big city in western Canada where metal waste is in abundance. I also noted that it wasn't mentioned in the video is the aluminum that also accompanies circuit boards. We can't just keep taking from the earth.

  • @bobbates7343
    @bobbates7343 10 месяцев назад +9

    Nearly twenty years ago I hauled what the paper work said were computers to the USA from Canada . Ended up on a rough road narrow as well. Not an industrial area at all . Found the place . It was a house with a new barn like building in which a small number of people sat at a bench and took the metals from the boards. I had thought it was new computers so I was going really slow on that old dirt road because I did not want damage. Anyway they guys opened the doors and it was just a huge pile of junk in my trailer. The guy told me it was very profitable

    • @hood3243
      @hood3243 9 месяцев назад +2

      Lmao that's pretty funny

  • @DaShaneo
    @DaShaneo 10 месяцев назад +3

    Wade! That portable Compaq was what I flew my first helicopter sim on back in 91. That Compaq is what got me into computers. 11:20

  • @brentchristopher7363
    @brentchristopher7363 19 дней назад

    Had 2 Osborn portable computers decades ago. I got into computer scrap in the early 2000s. My garage was also a nightmare to move around in. I had people bringing me old and broken new computers. My next obvious step was to go industrial with my obsession. I loved tearing them apart. No longer doing that because I moved into a homeowners association development. I still collect them if I see any of the curbside. I been watching E waste Ben for at least a decade and am amazed by the growth of his e waste operation. Fun hobby that with some luck you can become self employed with a nice income.

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky 10 месяцев назад +14

    All depends on amount you can store, what you have access too process the waste and comes down to money for investing (its why it can work as a side hustle in some places but others not as the time isn't worth it) but long term having less e-waste an more recyclable will make the world a better place.
    Don't know where Wade does his stuff but rent alone in most places in sydney would outweigh what you could collect an turn over in most cases + if its run as a business or even side hustle he probably isn't actually follow worksafe requirements by the state of that storage space an what he does or paying taxes for the income which would take a chunk (which is why sometimes people who scrap or work for themselves actually cause issues with the systems in place because of declaring it etc)

  • @simonkh7278
    @simonkh7278 6 месяцев назад

    Shark scrapper is a man who have popularized amateur e-scrapping much last years.
    Thanks for a great coverage!

  • @jahnavi.youtube
    @jahnavi.youtube 10 месяцев назад +12

    As an indian i didn't knew this was happening in India
    This video showed the other side of the world to me
    Thank you for putting out this video

    • @Puddycat00
      @Puddycat00 10 месяцев назад

      Maybe help your fellow poor Indians .

    • @jahnavi.youtube
      @jahnavi.youtube 10 месяцев назад +9

      @@Puddycat00 may be u help yourself with improving ur mental state and start being respectful towards other people
      What's the use of being rich and wealthy when u don't know how to be respectful and humble

    • @becausebuzzbomb6133
      @becausebuzzbomb6133 10 месяцев назад

      I don't mean to be disrespectful at all with my comment, so please do not be insulted by what I'm about to ask, but I genuinely wonder: are you as an Indian, probably living in a well developed area of India, aware of the general image of your country abroad? Sadly, most imagery that I come across involve extremely polluted cities, at least compared to cities in my country (Czech Republic), and I must say that my people can be considered quite bad at keeping their environment clean as opposed to, say, Austrians or Germans.
      Said imagery makes it look like India is mostly polluted wasteland, much like as shown in this video. And I have no idea what India is actually like in general. Of course, there areas that are more developed than others, but how "common" is it for Indians to live and work in places like those shown in this video?
      With such questions asked, I can add that I personally have pretty much no idea how my country is perceived abroad. I know we earned some bad reputation with our neighbors (there was a time when Austria placed signs along borders that asked us not to steal in their country, the Polish are rightfully pissed at us for storming their shops for much, much cheaper goods), but I wonder what other countries think of us - if they even know about us, we are a rather tiny country.

    • @Reichstaubenminister
      @Reichstaubenminister 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Puddycat00>NYC

    • @ray24051
      @ray24051 9 месяцев назад

      @@jahnavi.youtube 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @sky-eo8tz
    @sky-eo8tz 10 месяцев назад +11

    Thank you to those people who help us recycling and thank you for doing such a nice informative video

  • @outdoorloser4340
    @outdoorloser4340 10 месяцев назад +26

    0:12 Jason from MBMMLLC!! Thats my neighbor!

    • @markae0
      @markae0 10 месяцев назад +3

      he has a great RUclips channel. I watch it all the time.

    • @cammo253
      @cammo253 10 месяцев назад +2

      Was NOT expecting to see him within the first few seconds of this video hahahah! So good! :D

  • @Omegapork
    @Omegapork 10 месяцев назад +7

    Im really happy to see as much as possible getting recycled!
    As a "tech enthusiast" it does make me kind of sad to see some of these things destroyed, even if most of it is garbage to anybody else... I wonder what kind of collector's gold has has been shedded for its actual gold content!

    • @relo999
      @relo999 10 месяцев назад +1

      Look online, quite a lot. As the stuff that's highly collectable also tends to be of the age that it has quite a lot of gold compared to modern devices.

    • @Omegapork
      @Omegapork 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@relo999 I cringed when I saw all of those wires getting cut. I know time is of the essence, but would it kill them to at least unplug the cables that have sockets :(
      Now that I think about it, a lot of the newer stuff would be better off reused anyway. It's only the metals that get recycled from this process. The plastics still end up in the garbage.

    • @ZeWaka
      @ZeWaka 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@Omegapork Problem is the sockets are made of plastic, which you need to separate out.

  • @-_Nuke_-
    @-_Nuke_- 10 месяцев назад +25

    If you are a mom - be sure that your child have access to your garage, it seems that everyone started from there for some reason xD
    It would be good to not become a mom before owning a garage too xD

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад +1

      It is where people store their garbage for six days before the bin goes out for the local pickup

    • @Puddycat00
      @Puddycat00 10 месяцев назад +1

      I agree completely

  • @thetacoguyy
    @thetacoguyy 9 месяцев назад +2

    Starting to believe algorithm reads minds,
    I was thinking about this the other day and now i get it recommended.

  • @piemaster9225
    @piemaster9225 10 месяцев назад +57

    What a great idea. People like wade and mint are crucial

    • @TheGreatestShowman69
      @TheGreatestShowman69 10 месяцев назад

      Wade is trying to take jobs from those in India….

    • @seffard
      @seffard 10 месяцев назад +4

      No, people conscious of savage consumerism are crucial in the first place.

    • @dankmemes8619
      @dankmemes8619 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@TheGreatestShowman69they only recycled like a 3rd of their ewaste. I'm sure they will be find for quite a while

    • @ray24051
      @ray24051 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheGreatestShowman69 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @thend4427
      @thend4427 9 месяцев назад

      ​@TheGreatestShowman69 nothing wrong with wanting to keep the money for your own country

  • @DARK_AMBIGUOUS
    @DARK_AMBIGUOUS 9 месяцев назад +2

    Yooooo I just randomly came across this video, my dad does this as a hobby, he showed me this giant ball of gold he had, it was like a one inch ball of solid gold, I remember being a kid and our family room looked like a meth lab with beakers of sulphuric acid, and green and blue crap, my sister once spilled some on her hand and she was like crying and freaking out and I remember being scared of the fumes because it was right by our computer, we also had piles of computers and sharp circuit boards filling our family room, my sister stubbed her toe once on a stack of circuit boards, I remember my dad had a giant box of old busted flip phones and stuff, let's just say living in a house with a dad who did this as a hobby was really a thing to experience

  • @benzamg32m68
    @benzamg32m68 9 месяцев назад +3

    It's so great this report has come to us people. Personally I've saved all my phones I've purchased over the last 15 years lol. All 3 of them, I can't manage to throw away any laptops either I've owned, all 2 of them. It seems like such a huge waste to throw away like trash. I did bring one large TV to the recycling place though after I couldn't fix it myself. I have 2 others that are stored in my garage, also unfixable. People really need to pay attention to their electronics waste and like another poster said, hold companies accountable but it really starts with us.

    • @julesnorton2138
      @julesnorton2138 9 месяцев назад

      I'm the same...every mobile from me and my kids, the laptops and desktops...oh, and ipods...lol
      unfortunately, due to hard financial times i had sold both my Nokia's....i think i had a 5510 and a 3310.... still breaks my heart that i did that

  • @jack_attack_
    @jack_attack_ 10 месяцев назад +15

    Wade is the man 👍

  • @TheAnthonyr32
    @TheAnthonyr32 10 месяцев назад +12

    This is such a beautiful process, and I'm genuinely impressed. Your work has the potential to make history and shape the future. Keep pushing boundaries, making a positive impact, and inspiring others to join the journey. I genuinely hope more people contribute to your mission. Let's envision a future where your efforts continue to clean up more waste, and we can all lend a helping hand. You're crafting a legacy. Keep changing the game and rewriting the future!

  • @lucasgaiva1653
    @lucasgaiva1653 8 месяцев назад

    That's brilliant and beautiful to see that they're taking care of their own e-waste and earning money with it

  • @onej0929
    @onej0929 10 месяцев назад +15

    this is the type of business I would love to be apart of! This is amazing.

  • @liamthompson9342
    @liamthompson9342 10 месяцев назад +5

    Great stuff. Crazy to dig it out of the ground when it's already concentrated in rubbish.

    • @Redmenace96
      @Redmenace96 6 месяцев назад +1

      Ya. They outline the problem, but it still boggles my mind that recycling it is more expensive than extraction? The ore mining industry just seems to have a head start in technology and machinery/automation? If they brought those same technologies and investment to recycling.... it could be very lucrative.

  • @the1stDDD
    @the1stDDD 10 месяцев назад +14

    This was such a feel good video. Super glad this sort of thing is growing in Aus and NZ.

  • @jeffreyyoung4104
    @jeffreyyoung4104 10 месяцев назад +2

    Back in the 70s and sometimes in the 80s they were going through old gold mines and trying to leach the gold out of the tailings left after the easy to extract gold was removed. They were selling stock in the process, and they made a lot of money suckering people to by the stock, and none of the mines ever produced any gold worth the money spent on the stocks!

  • @PatriciaKlein-u1h
    @PatriciaKlein-u1h 10 месяцев назад +7

    This was such a feel good video. Super glad this sort of thing is growing in Aus and NZ.

  • @Useless22
    @Useless22 9 месяцев назад +2

    They do realize that if they succeed, and a substantial percentage of our electronic waste is handled domestically, then that would mean the people overseas would suffer because there is less electronic waste for them to mine.

    • @Adoniss99
      @Adoniss99 Месяц назад

      Well the folks over seaseas r putting themselves at risk managing the ewaste. They r already sufferening. We r just removing one method of their suffering. They would likely find another

  • @Kilomylesco
    @Kilomylesco 10 месяцев назад +8

    7:30 something doesn’t add up here. They use bacteria AND fungi to get the gold? But the byproduct is toxic enough for them to not want people around it at all, and so the facility is mostly automated? How could any cellular organism dissolve gold, which is famously non-reactive, quicker than more economically viable than just using aqua regia?

    • @PhokenKuul
      @PhokenKuul 10 месяцев назад

      Cyanide is much more economical and safe than aqua regia. Potassium iodide etches gold. There are possibilities.

    • @marcuslewis7932
      @marcuslewis7932 10 месяцев назад +6

      The toxic byproducts are just the plastics and silica that is used in the PCB making. The process is using bacteria to produce chloroauric acid and the fungi then breaks this acid down into gold nano-particles which are purple. Its far cheaper than aqua regia because the bacteria reproduce by themselves so the extraction chemicals are self replicating, whereas you have to buy the acid and have additional machinery to deliver it safely. You then have the extract from the acid again before you can purify which is an additional step.

  • @MTBNeuro
    @MTBNeuro 10 месяцев назад +2

    Maybe back in the 90s it was lucrative for the individual in his garage. Nowadays you have to do it on an industrial scale to make any real money from it.

  • @Zack-pl9np
    @Zack-pl9np 10 месяцев назад +4

    Wade we love people like you!

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl 10 месяцев назад

      Do you really think he's going through here reading your comments? Are you okay bud?

  • @Mike__B
    @Mike__B 10 месяцев назад +2

    The thing is as a consumer the government tacks an "e-waste fee" onto something we buy then we expect it will be handled with by the government in some way either by overseeing that ewaste collectors follow all regs and don't just dump the toxic byproducts in the sewer or whatever. But a lot of that recovery, yeah there's cheap which leaves toxic messes, and then there's refined which also has toxic byproducts. Although that bacterial and fungal bit is kind of cool, be interested to know more about it but of course the company is keeping that all under wraps.

  • @josiahtaylor8714
    @josiahtaylor8714 10 месяцев назад +8

    I was not expecting to see Jason on this channel lol

  • @RossPotts
    @RossPotts 10 месяцев назад +5

    Hurts me in the feels, seeing an old Osborne having to be broken down…

    • @Soniti1324
      @Soniti1324 10 месяцев назад +1

      I literally felt the same thing-- when I saw it, I audibly said "Wooooow an Osbourne!!"

    • @RossPotts
      @RossPotts 10 месяцев назад

      @@Soniti1324 OMG, I said that!
      If you know, you know

    • @RelaxRelapse720
      @RelaxRelapse720 10 месяцев назад +3

      I mean he was fixing it, not scrapping it. He says that if you watch the whole video.

  • @ChuckeeCheeser
    @ChuckeeCheeser 10 месяцев назад +9

    It's always fun to find capacitors that still have a charge. Makes your heart tickle 😅

  • @Str8Maddeness
    @Str8Maddeness 10 месяцев назад

    I'm happy to see that Wade attempts to repair and refurbish before sending things to scrap right away.

  • @jackmclane1826
    @jackmclane1826 10 месяцев назад +3

    Problem is... the amount of accessible valuables in modern e-waste has become so small, that this business model is going to break down soon.
    Microwave transformers are wound with aluminium wire, instead of copper. Modern MLCCs (formerly containing palladium) are now 99% worthless. Flip chip IC designs don't contain any gold bond wires. Remaining gold plating is just a nanometer gold flashing.... dozens of examples available.
    Today there is still enough old stuff being thrown away. But it will end soon.

  • @villeveikko1
    @villeveikko1 10 месяцев назад +2

    1 ton of circuitboard waste from computers and cellphones contains:
    ~300 grams of gold
    ~1,5 kilos of silver
    - Lots of copper, tin etc.
    - Smaller mount of palladium, tallium etc.
    Imagine this:
    Its profitable to start a gold mine when theres a few grams of gold per ton of soil/ore...

  • @Ice_Karma
    @Ice_Karma 10 месяцев назад +6

    Huh. Neat to see Jason Gaber!

  • @sky173
    @sky173 10 месяцев назад +2

    That thumnail is quite misleading. $85,000 per day after gathering 100tons of electrical parts and millions in equipment to extract the gold.

    • @becausebuzzbomb6133
      @becausebuzzbomb6133 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yup, my thoughts. They did mention the plant is expensive, they never actually gave a figure. So yeah, getting 1.2 kg of gold every day sounds fun, until you realize that it will take 20 years to pay the factory back.

  • @derpmellow2
    @derpmellow2 10 месяцев назад +6

    the "secret stuff" is aqua regia, you drop gold in it desolves, then when you feel you have collected enough liquid gold, you throw tin powder in, the gold will harden and sink to the bottom

    • @Puddycat00
      @Puddycat00 10 месяцев назад

      How cool. Thank you for the info. You’re awesome ❤

  • @suisenzero1
    @suisenzero1 9 месяцев назад +1

    I was thinking that E-Waste Ben would make a guest appearance, but I do occasionally watch Shark Scrapper, so that’s cool.

    • @boardsort
      @boardsort 9 месяцев назад

      Shark Scrapper is an excellent channel to learn the correct way to scrap.

  • @DeeDee-bm9hr
    @DeeDee-bm9hr 10 месяцев назад +3

    Amazing seeing people in India squatting on British empire railroads beating electronics with a rock

  • @samuelec
    @samuelec 10 месяцев назад +1

    It's showing crt TVs and electronics which no longer exists.
    There are plenty of videos on RUclips showing how hard is to extract few grams of gold (if you happen to find a tons of 20 years old electronics cards or chips that happen to have golden plated contacts).
    Eventually the news here is that there's now a company which has apparently found an environmental friendly way to extract minerals with the help of special kind of bacteria

  • @TTzanatech
    @TTzanatech 10 месяцев назад +15

    Business Insider needs to make more sense. How can one ton of motherboards contain more gold than one ton of mined gold? I'm pretty sure they mean gold ore.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад +3

      Common sense.
      Raw gold rock mining versus motherboars weight

    • @MaxxPwrrr
      @MaxxPwrrr 10 месяцев назад

      @@dertythegrower gay balls

  • @repo12212
    @repo12212 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ah yes I always send my scrap computer stuff to boardsort best payouts and the dude is honest

  • @marcusm8009
    @marcusm8009 10 месяцев назад +4

    Exporting ewaste is not a eco friendly option when it's burned for metals.

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 10 месяцев назад

      Burning copper wire reduces the value of the wire too. The metals buyers will give you a lower price per kilo if the wires were burnt in a fire. At least thats what happens in western countries, in 3rd world countries they might get the same price.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад

      the smog is recycled into captured gas for fuel

    • @marcusm8009
      @marcusm8009 10 месяцев назад

      @@dertythegrower rrrriiiiggggghhhhttttt....

  • @isntimportant
    @isntimportant 6 месяцев назад +1

    "We want to save the environment!"
    "Oh yeah our secret sauce? Nah, we won't tell you what's in it! But we hope more solo scrappers start up out there lmao!"

  • @nadheem420
    @nadheem420 10 месяцев назад +3

    "mutant bacteria can now recover gold from electronics" Should have been the thumbnail

  • @mathewvarner6597
    @mathewvarner6597 9 месяцев назад

    I subscribe to this guy's videos and I love the work he is doing. E-waste is literally throwing away your best and rarest minerals en mass.

  • @kristensorensen2219
    @kristensorensen2219 10 месяцев назад +3

    The new gold rush!
    If we can see this waste as the valuable asset it really is!!

    • @owenkelsey6279
      @owenkelsey6279 10 месяцев назад

      Some “ewaste” still has value as is.

  • @danthelambboy
    @danthelambboy 10 месяцев назад +1

    Did you know in Melbourne Australia it is illegal to take garbage that is due to be collected by the government, whether it is marked like that or not. it is absurd.

  • @clanpsi
    @clanpsi 10 месяцев назад +2

    I brought some electronics to a big electronics shop in Japan and they tried to charge me for them to recycle it. WTF? THAT's why people don't recycle e-waste.

    • @SoraShadowdancer
      @SoraShadowdancer 10 месяцев назад +1

      It makes sense for people to charge for it though because it costs them money to provide that service for you. Just like when you have new tires put on your car (in the US) there is a disposal fee for the old ones.

    • @dertythegrower
      @dertythegrower 10 месяцев назад

      time and fuel cost to take it to a recycle place like these... you probably live in a big city so they dont know how to do it like we do

  • @ulspeedy963
    @ulspeedy963 10 месяцев назад +11

    It feels almost dystopian seeing people rummage through piles of discarded computer parts rather than extracting precious metals from the ground

  • @Synerge360
    @Synerge360 10 месяцев назад

    This is awesome! Hopefully we can reduce e-waste and force companies to take initiative on making sustainable technology.

  • @Icu-812-me2
    @Icu-812-me2 10 месяцев назад +5

    Aus 9% is slightly less at USA15%. That's a huge increase. Double almost . 3:02

    • @Icu-812-me2
      @Icu-812-me2 10 месяцев назад +1

      Comparing 20 million to 350 million thats a shit ton more by the numbers

  • @EngiesParadise
    @EngiesParadise 7 месяцев назад +1

    6:23 who tf throws away a computer worth thousands

  • @Ice_Karma
    @Ice_Karma 10 месяцев назад +3

    4:28 "Jacob"? For shame. At least the voicever and the closed captions are correct.

  • @stacrafty
    @stacrafty 9 месяцев назад +1

    I'm an investor in Mint Innovation - great to see them mentioned here!

    • @PettitFrontiers
      @PettitFrontiers 9 месяцев назад

      Would love to learn more about what convinced you to invest in them!

  • @buggi666
    @buggi666 10 месяцев назад +4

    Thats pretty cool! However, gold was phased out 10yrs ago in Semiconductormanufacturing so the recycling efficiency will be less and less economical in the coming years.

  • @tvwithtiffani
    @tvwithtiffani 10 месяцев назад +2

    one thing that always sticks with me is the smell of old electronics. no one ever talks about it .

  • @MinusMedley
    @MinusMedley 10 месяцев назад +4

    So why is the special formula a secret? Share it with the rest of the world, so everyone can have a go at making it financially feasible.

  • @urbeautifullboy_
    @urbeautifullboy_ 10 месяцев назад

    i am also obsessed with vintage technology
    like cool these things were!!

  • @animalrave7167
    @animalrave7167 10 месяцев назад

    I'm surprised you don't see more environmentalists supporting these recycler's and scrappers. There is clearly a demand that is being unmet for recycling services in every country. Seems like an opportunity for the right person that figures it out. The autowreckers are a pretty good example. Some of them will recycle about 95% of a broken vehicle in many cases. I wish those people at Mint luck!

    • @the_expidition427
      @the_expidition427 10 месяцев назад

      How are you surprised? Most ists are authoritarian there isn't much activism in this bueraucratic process

  • @XX-lr9sz
    @XX-lr9sz 10 месяцев назад

    Well done inspiring value based dumpster diving to keep electronics out of landfills. Wade might open an official museum of working computers allowing many to access worldwide to transfer or upgrade antiquated data to newer platforms as a side hustle.

  • @noahboat580
    @noahboat580 5 месяцев назад

    Why is this only in Australia? This can be invaluable in the bigger countries, heck my dad has all sorts of recycled gold deposits, gold snaps, gold contacts, and circuit boards.

  • @FBAagent
    @FBAagent 9 месяцев назад

    THANK YOU. My heart is soothed watching this video :)

  • @MrGragtor
    @MrGragtor 10 месяцев назад

    In Finland we have Kuusakoski oy that does this on a large scale. Big local electronic stores have to take in your E-waste and all of it gets reused or broken down to reusable raw materials. Even the plastic bits can be reused. 👍

  • @simunator
    @simunator 10 месяцев назад +1

    the acids required cost more than the gold yield for home operations

  • @santiagocercavins
    @santiagocercavins 10 месяцев назад +1

    How about upgradable items ? Instead of trowing the whole machine, you just change the only component that you want to upgrade ?

  • @serena-yu
    @serena-yu 10 месяцев назад +1

    Only profitable in countries with low labour cost and minimal environment protection laws. They collect stuff in Australia, but outsource the actual chemical work to poorer countries. China has banned imports of e-waste a couple years ago so they are going to South and Southeast Asia.

  • @sachingotal11
    @sachingotal11 9 месяцев назад

    Quote ~"One man's trash is another man's treasure" fits perfectly here.

  • @maxwebster7572
    @maxwebster7572 Месяц назад

    8:42 Correction. You cement out the copper. If you use electricity to plate out the metals you will transfer ALL metals including the gold. Copper is cemented without electricity using iron. Gold is then precipitated. If the copper is plated, the gold is not in solution at that point as they claim.

  • @LetsPlayKeldeo
    @LetsPlayKeldeo 10 месяцев назад +1

    Please remember before scrapping to first reuse it or try to fix it

  • @TheWickkit
    @TheWickkit 10 месяцев назад

    We have a recycling company that pays us less than their facility 2 states over (4 hours away) pays there for the same materials. They accept computer circuit boards and electronics but they don't pay for them. I never see them get any of that. My fiancé & I dumpster dive the same city, but only occasionally as we moved to about 90 miles away. Even when we lived there though, and had many spots we'd check consistently (business dumpsters mainly) there was no way to save even a significant fraction of the massive amount of electronic waste that gets thrown away. And this is a city in Montana with a population of less than 30,000. It's disgusting what gets wasted every single freaking day.

  • @Mrcaffinebean
    @Mrcaffinebean 10 месяцев назад +1

    This might be the most of impressive recycling system I have ever seen. 😊

  • @scorpnz4433
    @scorpnz4433 9 месяцев назад

    The worst part about scrapping is the amount of plastic used can't be recycled. Basically every single item in your home that has plastic. A few select items will have the triangle with a number in it most items will have the triangle & no number. There's quite a few full time scrappers here in south auckland that drive around collecting it as well as illegally dumped. I do it part time & pick up stuff on my mowing round. Some like myself will strip & separate the metals from transformers & wiring, while those that do it full time can't spare the time & just take it to the local scrap metal yard. For me it brings in $100 per week. Realistically it's not worth it as i earn far more money far quicker mowing lawns. That said it is fun & there's numerous items that others can use i.e if somebody wants a barby plate or a bike etc i usually just let them take it at no cost. For myself it's saved me money on parts for numerous things i might have & can repair i.e a not working microwave that's in good condition or a bolt i might need for a mower. It's surprising what gets thrown out & still works. Vacuums,pedestal fans,torches, scooters,bikes,computers etc