"I Don't Want To Invest In Your Side Project" | Dragons' Den
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2024
- Michael is seeking 40,000 for 10% for his company Van Guardian. A tool to deter criminals from breaking into vans.
Season 20, Episode 5.
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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None of the dragons will ever experience the utterly devastating effect of having their entire means of making a living being stolen from them.
Just happened to me two months ago. A crackhead who probably sold my tools for a little if nothing.i still haven't replaced all of them
@@drekelley2352 I have them here I'll give em back for 200
@drekelley2352 how much money do you think that cost you?
@@dominicharvey6048 2500 dollars
well said. we all know someone who's van was broken into by low-lifes. this looks like a good effective deterrent so the dragons should have supported him.
Peter really doesn't understand, breaking into a van causes massive damage before the alarm goes off and this will deter the casual burglar and get them to move on.
How many of these have you bought? Or anyone you know? They are out there?
Have a simillar product, for me and my family, also you can controll it from a remote, if you want to turn it off or on, such a great thing to have.
Obviously you don't think Peter is right when he's 100% right.
What credentials does Peter Jones have in the security industry? None, he has no idea what he's talking about.@@joewas2225
@@joewas2225 except he isn't....
The guy pitching is absolutely right, detecting a break-in before it occurs makes a huge difference - once someone is in, even if the alarm is triggered, they'll just grab what they can and make off. If I were him, I'd be approaching the insurance companies to see if they were interested in partnering somehow.
I can just picture you sitting in the waiting room of an insurance executive all day wearing your dad's suit, til the receptionist eventually tells you he can't make it today
@@MF_JONESWell the insurance executive would be foolish to ignore this opportunity to really improve the van's security. It's a game-changer, theoretically. 🤔👍✌️
I like your idea. What can insurers do with this, though?
Agreed. Once somones in, what’s the point of stopping? You’ve already committed the crime. Stop them getting in in the first place and the chance of them leaving the van is much greater.
@@ceterisparibus8966offering discounts if having it installed
The Dragons be like “if you don’t want your stuff to get stolen, don’t have stuff then?”
Legend 😂
I don’t usually leave comments on RUclips but I brought these for my new van around a month ago and they work great, my van doesn’t have a factory fitted alarm and van crime is a big problem where I live.
They only took 20 minutes to fit and now the whole back of my van is protected.
And the side? I've seem door peeling onnthe side door
Have you considered leaving liverpool?
the problem for you is thieves will now leave the back of the van intact, and the rest of the van will be gone.
@@Professional_RUclips_Commenter : You REALLY need to leave Liverpool.
Another fine example of the Dragons being uneducated but thinking they know everything...
They know everything. About rich people life
Not enough thieves around when they were young.
People knock on the window for direction and then grab whatever they can from either the front seat (hand bags) or even the glove box - while you are at a red light.
You can't get out and you can't drive off.
it is a telly show......
Well its their money and their opinions so even if they are wrong, its their loss if it hits big.
Unfortunately a lot of people think wealth = knowledge.
This is the only time I’ve watched of these and thought “brilliant product” but it’s crazy none of the dragons can see it!
He could not answer a straight question.
It was almost unwatchable
We drive twin can high spec transit customs and VW transporters at my work and we are being forced to have these on our vans. The alarm is about a 3rd of the volume of the standard alarm and all this does is advertised that I have tools worth stealing in my van. Terrible product.
@@Dadaadad268he’s an electrician he’s never had a business conversation like this before. He knew he was inexperienced and he was trying to overcompensate. Totally wrong profile of investor for him and his product, but again he doesn’t know enough about business to even consider that. He needs a mate or family member to give him some coaching because this is a really good product
It wasn’t Michael’s failure to explain his ‘IP or Patent’ to Tuker, rather Contrary, it was Tuker being ‘thick’ to understand when Michael explained 3x !!
A dragons ability to imply your stupidity because they can’t understand? Really you would wonder how they have succeeded?
He could not answer a straight question.
It was almost unwatchable
@@Dadaadad268 your repeated comments are unreadable
@@darrylkemp3253 He could not answer a straight question.
It was almost unwatchable
I have to agree. I even understood what’s going on in the first time.
I think this is a great product tbh; can imagine most work vans getting one installed
He should've explained how this is like having timed lights, fake cameras, or a bike lock, but for van theft. A cheap, but very effective deterrent that keeps all but the most determined thieves away
Agreed! Most thieves are on the fence or first time offenders. They are opportunists. It will never stop desperate people but will ABSOLUTELY give people a second thought about breaking into a car
DeWalt have installed these VanGuardian alarms on their bright yellow trade vans and it's already prevented the break in of several vans at the Sandown Park Toolfair when they were targeted by criminals. Good luck to Mike. 👍🤩
Definitely a great idea. I reckon a thief would leave instantly if the alarm went off on touch. If those door don't come open thousands of pounds would be saved in tools
I know nothing about owning a van and I know nothing about being an investor, but even I can see the massive difference between a van alarm going off before and after a break-in. I'm sure it was the guy's very indirect manner of communication that blew this for him in the end, not the product, because this is genuinely a really good idea for vehicle security and I'm sure Debora would've made him a deal if he had been more direct with his answers.
The other girl said this is a product she would buy for her vans but she can’t see it being able to make enough profit to make them money
Remember brewdog also got turned down by the dragons and they are now huge
Why were they acting like he was talking another language? it was really easy to understand what his patent was for and why his alarm system was better than ones that go off after the doors are opened 😂
He was waffling on instead of just answering the questions asked.
@@BenjaminGoose he definitely wasn't
@@BenjaminGooseNo he wasn’t waffling he was explaining very clearly. The dragons were impatient and rude.
@@BenjaminGoose He answered 3 times. Touka didn't understand. Not sure why, I thought it was easy to grasp.
He could not answer a straight question.
It was almost unwatchable
Forget about the pitch......
How did they bring that van up those stairs 😮
Stairs? It's a ground-floor studio.
Maby they got the fake lift to work
They remove the roof of the Warehouse and a helicopter drops it in
Hidden under Deborah’s turkey neck
😅@@ArthurMorgan1920
tbf i think this was the most successful pitch in which all dragons went out. All of them said they understand why the product exists and why it will sell, but that it's not investible.
My dads a builder and I would love for him to of been there to have a word with these dragons. The damage they do to these vans is very expensive and the theives often know how to not set the alarm off.
And yet, even if the alarm is set off it's too late! They're in! They'll just grab what they can. Tools are never cheap and often a builders best tools aren't easy to replace.
Honestly, their lack of understanding is baffling. Tthis setting off just by any touch can be enough for the sods to run off (and sadly try a van that is a easier target)
Really think this is a great product.
I know loads of people who have had vans stolen, this looks a great product to me. Touch the van and it goes off, nobody going to try and break in once that goes off
I’m from Leeds and I’ve just had my transit drilled. Nothing stolen thankfully . You see so many vans now with plates on the doors were they have been drilled
Tool theft is out of control in England. Crime isn't being dealt with.
@@RossKempOnYourMum01 is like the police don’t even exist at the moment . I know a few people who’ve had their house broke into or car stolen and the police haven’t even come out they were just given a crime reference number.
Touker Soleman used to ask my brother to move his work van from the front of his house because he said his son was bringing him something from the chippie later on and he needed the space!
I’ve fitted a sensor connected to an alarm to my pick truck up after a break in. It works like this one. Only cost me £18. Works great.
The dragons need to bring their asses to America and see from his POV. Brilliant product. It would be great for vans here in America especially for businesses like Amazon etc.
Is this guy from America? We already have like 6 similar products on Amazon for under $50
@@GuessTheSongMSyes, can't you tell from his accent 😂
Following the show the guys business went IPO, he’s subsequently bought all the dragons a van and robbed each of them
haha
Quality😂😂
There are creators and there are investors, not everyone can be both, sometimes you need to guide a great creator and have big rewards! Dragons you just missed a big oportunity of something that can be great.
What a lovely bloke, I think they were a bit harsh on him here
I felt the same about them but Sarah and Steven were ok, they don't know what it's like to lose your livelihood 💯
Peter doesnt seem to understand that no one really pays attention to car alarms that much anymore.
I think this demonstrates how out of touch the dragons are with all their money. A lot of people are tradespeople with a van. Many of those vans are much older and in need of better security than is built in. Not just but also people with campers etc would benefit from this.
I also think that the way he was talking was reminiscent of someone with ADHD, in which case it's pretty unfair that the dragons don't consider it's just the situation which is sending him off track a bit.
All that said! I'm not entirely convinced by this execution. I have an old vw bus with no alarm and thought 'oh yeah great' until I saw it was stuck on the outside with adhesive. The more effective alarm system would be on the inside where it can't be nabbed, I also don't like the idea of glueing things onto my vehicle
I was thinking the same, if it’s adhered to the metal of the van and it sets off an alarm by touch, how would it differ from being inside away from eyes ?
Agreed that this is an underrated product by the Dragons standards who would never use such a product because they are too rich! Confused why Touker was so confused when he explained what the patent was. They seemed to ask too many questions.
Peter missed point, but that was partly the pitchers fault because he didn't explain it. Not all buy a new van and any decent mechanic will tell you that installing a secondary aftermarket alarm system is a big gamble because it doesn't matter if the factory one works or not it can mess them both up. This should also be marketed for boat engines, trailers etc.
_Now, Deborah “Juggz” Meaden wants to drill down into the details of the business_
To deter the thieves it might be a good solution to install a flow system that goes away from the van stopping the crime in its tracks.
Debra at 11:36 "My problem is that you can't tell us really straight and simple questions without chucking words out there" she means "answers" not "questions". Ironic. 😅😂
Not massively ironic there champ. More Allanis Morissette irony
He should probably try to partner with a commercial fleet. If he could sell it to a fleet or two, honestly that is a pretty high proportion of vans, and then OTHER fleets would notice and try to match it... if it works, lol.
How did they not see what a brilliant idea this is? Huge huge difference between waiting for the thief to get access already then start the whole securing process, and between you being notified literally before they even start working on unlocking your van !
I think the dragons missed out here. He just struggled to talk and sell his solution clearly.
Car alarms that go off when touched or even coming near it were on the market in 80s and 90s and they stopped making a lot of them because they didnt protect cars they just annoy people when they go off on accident
Incredibly harsh on him when he’s trying to solve and really big issue
Funny to see all these 'smart' wealthy people still staying 6 feet apart....
I understood what he meant about the IP straight away.
This product is amazing! I've got friends in the trade that have had their vans broken into numerous times. At hotels, on the worksite, at home. Something like this is genius and will save so many tools from being taken.
A simpler knock sensor siren installed under the bonnet powered by the vehicle battery, and cannot be ripped off.
100%
Why not make the whole van out of the part that cannot be ripped off? No battery or sensors needed.
I'm sure this can be adapted for a normal family car. I think he is onto a good thing personally. Shame he doesn't have any backing to help him on his way.
This would be a great investment for gigging bands and musicians too. Hear so many stories of bands having their vans broken into and their livelihood taken away.
Having a van stolen, I think it’s a great product I would buy!
why have you not then?
been out for ages.... VAN GUARDIAN
@@RUclipsHero666 Calm down lol. They obviously just seen it on here for the first time.
The floor is creaking with the van on it but saying the egos in here are far heavier
What a great product! I will look into this and see if I can fit it on my garage doors. 👍🏻
Great idea for someone in the trade
Guy is right about damage being extensive before theft, but a hockey puck that can be torn off and thrown is a bit useless. If it’s inside the van, it’ll be muffled too much.
In Argentina this would be highly demanded. It's a brilliant idea!
I think the product is very clever is it life changing? no however it’s better than existing products
Just in time for my takeaway 😂
Did you get it from the muslims? They probly spat in it 😂
@@nikolibolokov4521 huh? weird guy
@@zd1281 he's not wrong. they are a wild breed
While thinking about marrying their brothers or sisters young 'uns. @@nikolibolokov4521
interbreed!@@mendi02
Peter “I was unable to embarrass you on live TV so for that reason I am out” 😂
I want to know how the van fit inside the elevator
Brilliant idea
"It's a side project"
"I don't want to invest in your side project"
"Its not a side project"
Could it be used on a peddle bike ?
I wonder how he fitted the van in the lift...
Our whole fleet of vans use these now. The fact that the dragons couldn't understand why the alarm going off BEFORE the burglars get inside the van was so important, shows that they weren't the right people anyway.
Gobsmacked thought Sarah or Deborah would have invested -just needs the door opening -great bloke 😢😢😢😢
The key is in the quality of it. If it's good then at £150 it's a bargain and will sell well. If it's got loads of false alarms etc or it doesn't last very long etc etc then it'l go on the heap with the rest of them.
What a great product I really hope he’s sold loads
Got them on my van and it’s brilliant
I love dragons den
Lol peter was so wrong on this
He understands nothing about security. On that product that protects doors from silent entry he was like "bUt tHeY cOuLd sTiLl gEt tHrOugH tHe wIndOws".
How did the van fit in the lift and how do I invest in the technology involved?
The guy is a genius, but the way he tried to explain too elaborately to everything and every questions made the dragons to doubt him. He needs to learn more about explaining in simple words.
Dragons missed out on this one.
Sometimes the damage to the van from scumbags breaking in, costs more to fix them replacing the tools , I think it's a great product , the dragons clearly out of touch on this .
i want one. what a great product
I’ve got them - they are great!
Great product. A slightly better pitch may have got 5 offers
Great product but I agree with Deborah, he needs to hire a CEO quick so that he doesn't waste time with waffling to simple straight forwards questions.
All a person needs to do is get some vinyl lettering from a sign writer's
All the sign has to say is
Van Watch
Which is a visual deterrent
And if enough Van owners put a sign on their Van saying
Van Watch
Every Van owner will be part of a van watch scheme
Fit a decent alarm/immobiliser with a proximity sensor that would be a lot better than just a stuck on box imho
He’s made this point, his product can be self applied, and is considerably cheaper
Yes your talking £2k for a decent alarm system and his costs 200 quid if it deters the thief its done its job
Well feel free to buy one I know which one I’d trust
Its annoying that all the dragons bowed out. He was really clear when explaining his patent. He should have corrected Touker when he kept asking about the patent. He answered him several times. Surprised that none of the dragons noticed
I get that the guy wasn't the best salesman out there, but if I had the chance to make that product a business I would've jumped on it.
I mean they're dragons, they're supposed to see opportunity and expansion possibilities even when others don't or don't know how to
The answer is better built vans with built in security
Quality product
Not show how they got a patent of a moulded panel that moulds onto a van panel where the van manufacturer had a patent for
Isn't the alarm going to do body work damage with that glue? looks like it could rip paint work off if you try to remove it.
What would rather all your tools missing or some paint come off if you decide to remove it?
@@valtros2k10 I don't know, I like the invention but the glue part, must be a better way of installing it, like a clip that goes inside the door or something.
Really surprised this didn't have an investment. Great idea
This is a great invention. I know people who have had this happen to them and their entire means of making a living is gone instantly which is invaluable, and a few grand's worth of tools with it.
Peter really doesn't get it and is probably making soo much money he doesn't care or even hear about how much he's losing from his vans so fair enough. But its the same reason people leave a downstairs light on or have a security automatic floodlight... they do work. They don't stop 100% of break ins... they are a deterrent. There was a study that airport security has an absolutely terrible record when tested. Its just for show and yet it still works and is a deterrent, even though physically it doesn't stop anything, mentally it does.
I really hope he does well! 💪🏻
Well I don't know how much it's worth but it is still going strong.
its junk a screwdriver at the back and it will pop straight off
Lmfao at the Covid Banner... wth!?😂
Covid-19 is still around and people are still dying from it, although it is not the epidemic it was a few years ago.
Video does reference the plandemic @ 07:00 - 07:30
WokeTube....
@Nigelfarij My original reply to you got deleted.. 🤣I missed the plandemic reference.
Imagine using the term "plandemic" unironically. Is it like some kind of advertisement that you're not very bright?@@Nigelfarij
Van Guardian... Leviosa! 🧙♂️
how do they get huge objects, like a van in the den!
Peter tries to break his alarm, then when he cant he goes back to his seat, looked like a sabotage intent to me.
Dragons are so detached from regular people 😂
The product is selling well.
I use this and saved my livelihood ❤
Peter didn't understand the massive issue of smash and grab tool theft.
His alarm company is still operating in May 2024.
The bloke needed to supply videos of criminal door pealing to get his points across
A factory-fitted alarm can be set to go off when the vehicle is touched, just like this. I don’t get how this is an invention.
That alarm would break.
Thank you RUclips-Google for informing about Covid-19..... today February 2024 😂
The dragons missed a buck there! Where can I buy this ?
The money they spent getting a patent on a curved base bracket was probably a waste. It won’t stop anyone making anything similar.
You’re far better off just concentrating on making a good product at a good price.
There’s nothing wrong with working a day job to support a start up. It reduces the company debt because it doesn’t have to pay you a wage and you don’t starve the company of its small profits in its early days.
Often workmen aren’t too far away from their vans and no crack head wants an angry tradesmen with a hammer chasing them.
Hope the publicity helps him grow.