What Deborah said was correct, she is not upset that she wasn't their first choice, but it was how they said that she wasn't their first choice. Dragons shouldn't be upset, or surprised, that people have preferred dragons.
It is clearly a oooh thats a nice idea thing you see on social media, but in reality you don't want to buy it - realistically, youd you want one for every sauce in your house? Cleaning must be a nightmare. Better would be bottles that are full silicone that you can just fill up and wash with ease.
That in itself says nothing. You need to spend money to make money. This episode aired at the end of Q1 2022 so it would be logical it needed some time to kick off after that. On the other hand, I doubt the deal even went through since no new shareholders have been registered. Also, there where 2 notices for compulsory strike-off earlier this year, albeit that both have been cancelled. I agree with the person above, it looks like a nice product, but it certainly is one I wouldn't want to own because cleaning would indeed be a nightmare...
I think this is a product where all the dragons would've brought something valuable. The product has the visual "show and tell" element that makes it great for social media and tv shop, where Sara and Steven can open doors. They need to get their manufacturing cost down (and maybe some London office spaces), Touker can help with that. Deborah has the drive and knowledge for eco products. And Peter has all the contacts.
For the dragons being such powerful business magnates, it always amazes me at how easily they get emotional. The guys doing the pitch were put on the spot and sure enough, they handled it poorly, but still
I think they have been instructed to be dramatic by the producers. If they really wanted to invest they would look past that slight, just like Deborah did.
Not every refusal after a slight is about EGO. What's this garbage about ego, ego everywhere?? Sometimes it's strategic to think... Hmm these guys talk before they think, might be dangerous hopping into bed with them on a 10 million pound deal... not everything is about EGO. Grow up!
Infected Mushroom has an album named "Return to the Sauce," and you have to say it with a British accent to get the pun. Same pun in this video, loved it
@2:14 A most notable moment occurred just before the entrepreneurs walked in, during a moment of pre-show chatter, was Peter’s nervous laughter in response to Steven’s remark, “I’ve seen bigger [sausages].”
I'm at 9:36 of this video. I'm an everyday consumer who could not benefit from this product. Why would I need to buy this, since ALL of bottles come in plastic? If i ran a restaurant, and bought ketchup, mustard in bulk, then this product would be excellent.
touker should have shafted steven by under cutting their offers, instead of letting steve shaft everyone else with that question. He knew they needed him. Right at the end he should have offered all the money for 15% just to drag the other 3 down.
September 2024 It seems the Company, Saucestream Limited, was Gazetted three times, but that this year compulsory strike off action was discontinued. I've never seen one of these accessories anywhere I've eaten, and I don't frequent The Savoy Grill😂 I've never seen on in a supermarket either. I wonder why nobody mentioned that there are already many variations of a plastic, washable and refillable sauce dispensers available, or that people are content to use glass bottles to dispense directly? That did seem to be obvious, even to my dog.
If it were me, would’ve said i want all the dragons by mentioning what i want and refer to each one 😂 Like i want A for so reason , B for so , C for so, D for so . And smile 😅 Take that for an answer
Honestly that was pure tactical move from Steven to get the other dragons to be alienated and drop out, I dont think they should be able to ask that question because it’s unfair
Ironic how when discussing pitches the claim is “this isnt a friendship, this isnt about if we like you. The question is can I make a return on investment…. Then i see videos, and this isnt the first, where they go “you didnt name check me or stroke my ego right so im out” I get it was dumb to list 2….but the response was a bit overreaction
That was a really good deal for them to be honest, it's a odd product that they are never going to sell by themselves, so having 3 dragons backing it will really help
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What I don't understand is that the sauce companies need to take up using glass for it to work.
@chrisbarry9345 Thank you. I thought I was misunderstanding. I grew up with glass bottles and some food co-ops where you could refill them from bulk, but those days seem to be gone forever. Convincing modern manufacturers to change their packaging just seems nearly impossible
A much better eco idea would be something that supermarkets can use to allow people to refill existing squeeze plastic sauce bottles. Carting around heavy glass bottles of sauce is just adding to the problem
Entrepreneurs often look for a certain Dragon(s), which, in my mind is no problem!! Why do the other Dragons get so annoyed? It has often happened in these circumstances before.
I don't know why they put ketchup in long bottles which always leaves 10% smeared inside unable to be used. Would prefer a short jar with lid where you just use a spoon to take out what you need.
3:03 I love Peter Jones 🥺 if Allah blesses me with a chance to go on Dragon’s den , Peter would be the dragon of my choice! And Debra tbh Touker’Your Cost is too High’ Suleiman Sara ‘TV shopping’ Davies Steven ‘I’ve built the world biggest brands’ Bartlett Debra ‘what’s your share structure’ Meaden Peter the ‘what are your revenue figures in the past 12 months’ jones
I am so confused that they didn't immediately think deborah was their dragon considering the environmental part. I am also so confused that they DID think peter was their dragon ... coz sauce?!
They made Deborah speechless. That doesn't happen very often in the den. Peter saved the day for the entrepreneurs and he also involved deborah who clearly wanted to be part of the deal
Horrendous decision to name their favourite dragons! Talk about showing your hand. Literally one of the worst negotiating tactics you can do, clowns. Lucky they still got a decent deal in the end
The Dragon's complain when you don't answer their questions honestly, unless it bruises their ego. 😂 They'd be dumb if they didn't expect entrepreneurs to have preferences.
Sometimes I question Steven Bartlett's sexuality with that naughty sausage joke at the start... Dont know why Deborah and Sara got so angry when in the Den, the entrepreneurs are normally asked what Dragon they want? If they had said Sara or Touker, Steven would have been FURIOUS! Peter would have been out the door if Deborah was chosen!
I don't get why the three dragons were wounded by who they wanted. Maybe the TV company uped the score, but really they have denied so many "Entrepreneurs" why then do they get hurt. At the end of the day It's a business financial transaction not a marriage.
Isnt it low key crazy how we’re all sitting here watching this bunch of rich ppl giggling and discussing how they charge us, average schmucks, 15$ for a product that costs them 3$ to make? Clown world.
"you weren't even third Touker" brutal lol 🤣
That was pretty careless of them naming their preferred dragons whilst all are in.
I have said this for years!! Ill never understand why they answer that question when there are multiple dragons still in.
they could have gone about it in another way saying all dragons bring value in different areas.
Agreed, but my word considering they call themselves "dragons" they sure do have fragile egos.
Because they've got the negotiating skills of Jeremy Corbyn.
What Deborah said was correct, she is not upset that she wasn't their first choice, but it was how they said that she wasn't their first choice.
What Deborah said was correct, she is not upset that she wasn't their first choice, but it was how they said that she wasn't their first choice. Dragons shouldn't be upset, or surprised, that people have preferred dragons.
The host should have thrown in this cheesy line: "Dragons may look big and mighty, but their egos are delicate like dandelion." 😛
the 2 x Entrepreneurs are a bit basic
8:49 "Well, all dragons here have a particular skillset that can propell the business."
Boom there you have an answer
fail to see how they dug worse with that
I'd have said Richard Farleigh
@@jimllspinitI'd have said Smaug
Even jenny I'm out
“Im not offended, but your poor judgement in not tip toeing around our fragile egos makes me disappointed” brilliant Deb. Just brilliant 😂
Yes, well handled
"I'm upset and that's not your fault" is endearing in a person 😅
Imho, she was referring to how easily these two chose to limit their options
So foolish. Just say that every dragon has something great to offer!
She's a smart lady
Every time Sara eats a chip, have a shot. You'll be drunk by the end of the episode.
Steven really brought a fresh breeze on the Den. Such a productive negotiation
They had almost 200k loss in 2022. Despite all the talk the product never seemed to have taken off.
So the great social media war lord failed to deliver? 😅 Shocker
It looks bulky, difficult to clean and according to D ultimately not earth friendly.
It is clearly a oooh thats a nice idea thing you see on social media, but in reality you don't want to buy it - realistically, youd you want one for every sauce in your house? Cleaning must be a nightmare. Better would be bottles that are full silicone that you can just fill up and wash with ease.
@@keyquestionshe's a hack job. I was the ceo of a 300million dollar company, no you weren't
That in itself says nothing. You need to spend money to make money. This episode aired at the end of Q1 2022 so it would be logical it needed some time to kick off after that.
On the other hand, I doubt the deal even went through since no new shareholders have been registered. Also, there where 2 notices for compulsory strike-off earlier this year, albeit that both have been cancelled. I agree with the person above, it looks like a nice product, but it certainly is one I wouldn't want to own because cleaning would indeed be a nightmare...
I think this is a product where all the dragons would've brought something valuable. The product has the visual "show and tell" element that makes it great for social media and tv shop, where Sara and Steven can open doors. They need to get their manufacturing cost down (and maybe some London office spaces), Touker can help with that. Deborah has the drive and knowledge for eco products. And Peter has all the contacts.
Are you after Evan's job?
@@solidstateresistor2485 I can't make enough puns! 😅
Peter Jones rescued this pitch for the entrepreneurs.
for sure.
They lost nearly 300k in 2022
@@Haywood-Jablomienot surprised. I wouldn't want it.
@@Haywood-Jablomiethat’s good money
They would have received an offer even if deb went out.
Worked out more perfectly than expected.
For the dragons being such powerful business magnates, it always amazes me at how easily they get emotional. The guys doing the pitch were put on the spot and sure enough, they handled it poorly, but still
I think they have been instructed to be dramatic by the producers. If they really wanted to invest they would look past that slight, just like Deborah did.
its a show
Best episode by far.❤❤❤❤ so interesting to watch
Entrepreneurs should have their website and website address visible in their pitch which will generate sales after their pitch
Pretty sure they've proposed that but I'm thinking it must be against regulations.
I would have rubbed in the missed opportunity of the last product lol
Would risk alienating the rest. The answer they gave was just wrong.
The Subtle dramatic nature of Deb's silence... Like the way she calmly came back into the deal, overcoming her ego..💯
Not every refusal after a slight is about EGO. What's this garbage about ego, ego everywhere?? Sometimes it's strategic to think... Hmm these guys talk before they think, might be dangerous hopping into bed with them on a 10 million pound deal... not everything is about EGO. Grow up!
@@keyquestions
She only came back in because she was scared of getting on the wrong side of Peter
Infected Mushroom has an album named "Return to the Sauce," and you have to say it with a British accent to get the pun. Same pun in this video, loved it
Why’s Bartlett always look like he’s just woke up😂
Dee Ruggs
Adderall bro
With a dry skin face
@2:14
A most notable moment occurred just before the entrepreneurs walked in, during a moment of pre-show chatter, was Peter’s nervous laughter in response to Steven’s remark, “I’ve seen bigger [sausages].”
The deal never went through after negotiations they said no to the 3 dragons... lol After all that....
Bad decision. They should have finalised that deal.
Well done for the second time around❤
I'm at 9:36 of this video. I'm an everyday consumer who could not benefit from this product. Why would I need to buy this, since ALL of bottles come in plastic? If i ran a restaurant, and bought ketchup, mustard in bulk, then this product would be excellent.
Should’ve said they’re all in the top 5
"You weren't even third, Touca!" - unusually savage Sara Davies. Ouch!
🔥🔥
Shafted on % given away and shafted by Stevens question.
touker should have shafted steven by under cutting their offers, instead of letting steve shaft everyone else with that question. He knew they needed him. Right at the end he should have offered all the money for 15% just to drag the other 3 down.
September 2024
It seems the Company, Saucestream Limited, was Gazetted three times, but that this year compulsory strike off action was discontinued.
I've never seen one of these accessories anywhere I've eaten, and I don't frequent The Savoy Grill😂 I've never seen on in a supermarket either.
I wonder why nobody mentioned that there are already many variations of a plastic, washable and refillable sauce dispensers available, or that people are content to use glass bottles to dispense directly? That did seem to be obvious, even to my dog.
Fantastic episode.
If it were me, would’ve said i want all the dragons by mentioning what i want and refer to each one 😂 Like i want A for so reason , B for so , C for so, D for so . And smile 😅 Take that for an answer
Exactly lol stroke their egos and keep em guessing
Honestly that was pure tactical move from Steven to get the other dragons to be alienated and drop out, I dont think they should be able to ask that question because it’s unfair
Well they aren't obligated to answer it
They can just reply, 'Anyone of u dragons would be great.' Job done.
I thought it was sneaky & very manipulating of him
@@gordonbennet1094 if they said that Stephen would have dropped out saying they weren't honest
That was obvious to anybody, I don't know why Sara and Touker didn't immediately see that and undercut Stephen out of spite
I would've said what Deborah said, "I am open to all offers," and I'd never mentioned any one or two specific dragons I would do business with.
Ironic how when discussing pitches the claim is “this isnt a friendship, this isnt about if we like you. The question is can I make a return on investment….
Then i see videos, and this isnt the first, where they go “you didnt name check me or stroke my ego right so im out”
I get it was dumb to list 2….but the response was a bit overreaction
Why were they so keen on somthing with no pattent that could be so easily copied. Was there a bribe or somthing I don’t get it.
That was a really good deal for them to be honest, it's a odd product that they are never going to sell by themselves, so having 3 dragons backing it will really help
What I don't understand is that the sauce companies need to take up using glass for it to work.
When ask who their preferred Dragon was they should have said Duncan!
There's no markwt for this one. You need to make companies produce glass bottles... And it has to sell for under $10
@chrisbarry9345
Thank you. I thought I was misunderstanding. I grew up with glass bottles and some food co-ops where you could refill them from bulk, but those days seem to be gone forever. Convincing modern manufacturers to change their packaging just seems nearly impossible
What's up with the audio mix? I can hardly hear the narrator.
A much better eco idea would be something that supermarkets can use to allow people to refill existing squeeze plastic sauce bottles. Carting around heavy glass bottles of sauce is just adding to the problem
Yh I was thinking of a local refilling centre that houses all variety of sauces available to man 😅
Not very hygenic
Entrepreneurs often look for a certain Dragon(s), which, in my mind is no problem!! Why do the other Dragons get so annoyed? It has often happened in these circumstances before.
These guys were dumb to tell the dragons who they wanted smh
They still got who they wanted + Deborah, so does it really matter 😂
You would have said it too - being on the fence in 2023 is highly criticised.
@@TheManInBlueFlames I would've said I came on the show because all 5 dragons could add value
Deborah's ketchup defying gravity 7:19
I don't know why they put ketchup in long bottles which always leaves 10% smeared inside unable to be used. Would prefer a short jar with lid where you just use a spoon to take out what you need.
probably to separate it from tomato sauce which would be in those jars. eg mayo is usually in that type of jar
How do you wash this thing? 😅
How is this business doing today? Any update?
3:03 I love Peter Jones 🥺 if Allah blesses me with a chance to go on Dragon’s den , Peter would be the dragon of my choice! And Debra tbh
Touker’Your Cost is too High’ Suleiman
Sara ‘TV shopping’ Davies
Steven ‘I’ve built the world biggest brands’ Bartlett
Debra ‘what’s your share structure’ Meaden
Peter the ‘what are your revenue figures in the past 12 months’ jones
Still never seen it anywhere yet
Damn, Sarah was furious.
I am so confused that they didn't immediately think deborah was their dragon considering the environmental part.
I am also so confused that they DID think peter was their dragon ... coz sauce?!
Everyone picks Peter. He had one massive success but a load of failures
We know you’ve seen bigger Steven
I dont get how it saves plastic, your filling it up from a pastic bottle into a glass?
You buy it in a glass bottle
11:17 she straight up sleeping 🛌
4:47 get it down Sara
They made Deborah speechless. That doesn't happen very often in the den. Peter saved the day for the entrepreneurs and he also involved deborah who clearly wanted to be part of the deal
2nd time the charm for these guys
Horrendous decision to name their favourite dragons! Talk about showing your hand. Literally one of the worst negotiating tactics you can do, clowns. Lucky they still got a decent deal in the end
some nice winks and nods at the shows history in this one.
The nod to peter at the beginning
The Dragon's complain when you don't answer their questions honestly, unless it bruises their ego. 😂 They'd be dumb if they didn't expect entrepreneurs to have preferences.
Deborah has demonstrated yet again that she is a class act.
Sometimes I question Steven Bartlett's sexuality with that naughty sausage joke at the start... Dont know why Deborah and Sara got so angry when in the Den, the entrepreneurs are normally asked what Dragon they want? If they had said Sara or Touker, Steven would have been FURIOUS! Peter would have been out the door if Deborah was chosen!
14.99 is very expensive for the item
Why havent i seen this in Tesco's ??
They are not business people just engineers
Can we just have a video of Sara eating chips.
no you can't
Yes. This is it 😂😂
Sara and Touker took a hit to their fragile ego’s 🤣
And I understand 😊
That's why you don't tell your them your preferred dragons
@@tmfromdenmark9158 You shouldn’t have a fragile ego my man 😊
And she started stuffing her face with the chips/fries.^^*
@@00Kuja00 They should have walked over and taken the chips off her.
Steven set them up lol
Terrible negotiators. They would definitely go down to 10 each but the dragons took advantage of their blunder.
It was a bad decision of the entrepreneurs to answer that Q, but a really low and sneaky strategy of Steven to ask it! 👎
5 dragons would have been heaven
That's actually not true. The most deals that fall through are deals with multiple dragon investors. This one also fell through.
So then After the Show they Declined the offer decided that Equity % was too High
Sharks sulking because their ego is bruised that they were honest and have preferences. 😂
Thats the first time I've seen Deborah's feeelings "not be hurt" by not being the chosen 1. She nust have had doller signs in her eyes.
They could've gotten all five to be honest
Props to Deborah for checking her ego at the door.
I don't get why the three dragons were wounded by who they wanted. Maybe the TV company uped the score, but really they have denied so many "Entrepreneurs" why then do they get hurt. At the end of the day It's a business financial transaction not a marriage.
sauce Stream LTD will go it alone after failing to come to a final agreement with three investors on the show in 2022
French Fries!
nevER pick one dragon over another BEFORE the pitch,they always get real arseey over it,BAD MOVE,its like theyve never seen the show before
Sure they forgot to ask if the design had a patent…
Honesty is the worst policy ...
Sucked in dudes.
When they say an we do like Deborah aswell after she weren't 1 of there 2 preferred dragons
2:59
Debroth is Brillent ❤❤❤❤
Ethereum 👍
Should’ve offered Sara more chips
Jenny was the their first choice and was still out.
Ha…ha?
i hered she phoned in just to say shes out
Good designers but bad entrepreneurs
Sarah's personality is a sight
Great to see Steve Martin move into entrepeneurship.....
Titel change: Narcissist Den. I thought they were "dragons" that fought for an investment. :P
Short sighted. All of the dragons had skillsets they could use
The three dragons should have gone to speak to the wall first .
Deb just wanted the money lol no ego.
Will smith put them on the spot and they fell for it
Steven wanted his mummy and daddy to come with him
They should have a crack dealer edition
2:18 I've seen bigger😂
Haha funnies video ever on dragon den
Isnt it low key crazy how we’re all sitting here watching this bunch of rich ppl giggling and discussing how they charge us, average schmucks, 15$ for a product that costs them 3$ to make? Clown world.
No plastic, just silicone 🤡