Which EURO NYMPH Fly Rod Should I Buy?!?
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2022
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Lots of great Euro nymph rods, and here's a link to the BEST, enjoy! EURO RODS: tacticalflyfisher.com/collections/rods?sca_ref=3715493.Nnci2avL5O
My first fly rod was a 9’ from my grandfather. Started mostly dry and wet fly fishing but began fishing with a Cortland Competition 10.5’ 4 weight. I started to use a tandem euro nymph rig at an all wild pocket water stream that releases anywhere from 150cfs to 850cfs. Love it. Just ordered an 11’ 3 weight. We’ll see what happens.
Sage ESN 10 foot 2 weight for me is the perfect weapon on my small to medium rivers, it has the backbone to play the bigger ones and the finesse to fish extremely light tippets and small nymphs with tremendous sensitivity.
Appreciate the feedback, Rob! Many fly fishers love the ESN, and I have yet to try one in a 2 weight. Glad to hear some thoughts on it. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Very informative and professionally presented.
Great info!👍
Appreciate the kind words and hope all is well on your end! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Great video! Are you still fishing the hanak superb and are you still a fan?
After it's all said and done, what works for me, Hardy Ultralite LL 10'8" #0-2 paired to Custom J.W. Young Rolling Pin with a Non-Coiling Mono.
I went from a 10’3wt clearwater to a T&T contact 2 10’9” 2wt. Night and day. If I get another it will be a T&T 10’ 2wt. I love the 2 wts.
Nice, that's great to hear! Can you talk about the differences you've noticed going from a 3-weight to a 2-weight? Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa sensitivity of course. Especially fitted with a micro mono system. I feel more in touch/contact with with the lighter nymphs. I believe it offers better tippet protection as well. Can you point me to a good wf flyline for T&T contact 2 10’9” 2wt. I’m gonna ditch the euro line and just attach the mono rig to wf line that I could throw drys on? I was curious if I should use a 3wt line with this rod?
The info is great!!
Thanks so much for the kind words! Please consider sharing this video with your fly fishing friends so the information is passed onto others. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have an ( ca ) 10 year old Loop opti. I love it and I actually bought á int line i #3 and sometimes just us it like a " normal rod" because it actually has the backbone 4 that.
I know what you mean, Sigurdur, occasionally when I throw a typical 4 or 5 weight, it's a refreshing feeling! :-) Thanks for the comment, and I would love to try that Loop sometime. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
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I fish a Discovery HPS 10 Ft. 3 Wt. from BFC (Bulgarian Fishing Tackle). I'm sure you can't get it in the States, but for 130 € it's just a great rod. I also use it for delicate
dryfly fishing with a 3 Wt line and a 8X(!!) tippet. Works great.
Greetings and tight lines 🎣 from the Čech Republic 🇨🇿.
Thanks for the information, Robin, that sounds like a great rod to check out! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
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A shop here in the Čech Republic where you can get this rod is Jan Šiman's Goflyfish. When I write this I'm in office. Tonight when I come home I will sent you contact to him.
Until then, Robbie "RobinRed".
Yet another excellent video collaboration with Devin! It is so hard to decide on which rod and reel to choose. I did a lot of research on rods, reels and techniques before I made a purchase. I took a gamble and spent more money ($800) on my first Euro nymphing outfit than I have ever spent on any of the fly fishing outfits I have purchased over decades of fly fishing. Within three outings I was extremely happy with my catch rate compared to any other style of nymph fishing. I have yet to get skunked, even on the notoriously finicky trout streams I fish. That says a lot!
I'm glad you're happy with the rod you researched! It can seem like a leap of faith, yet your catch speaks for itself! Congrats, and I hope you continue to have fun with the new outfit. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I never found a 10’ fly rod that could be balanced properly. It’s mainly because companies refuse to put a longer cork grip on them. A few do at least put on a down locking reel seat and that helps, but I don’t ever like having to put a death grip on a fly rod. When you relax your grip, the rod should stay in position, but instead, the tip drops into the water immediately. So, result is having to use a heavy reel to balance. It’s all physics and you can apply the same to many 9’ rods, and rod companies now trying to get by with shorter cork. Make a 10’ nymphing rod with about 8” of cork, and maybe I’ll buy one. But for now, I will continue to nymph successfully with a 9’ fly rod or go Tenkara.
10’ 3wt Sage ESN is the best euro nymph rod I’ve ever fished. Orvis Clearwater is a good rod lower on the cost scale.
I have the 2 wt and just love it.
Another great video! And not to sound like an add for Tactical Fly Fisher, but I've never been disappointed with any purchases I've made there. And great service!
Thanks for the kind words, J.R., Devin is an incredible guest! Consider sharing this video with your fly fishing friends, as the great information deserves to be heard by others. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
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Great Video. Have a 10’ 4wt rod Primal ( New Zealand made) great rod fishing New Zealand Big Water, then brought a Orvis Black Out Euro Rod ( silly me) love it but a Big learning curve.
Thanks for the kind words, Warren! I'd love to check out that Primal rod, but have yet to see one. And the Black Out...I have one, too! It's a great stick that does its job better than most. Thanks again! Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I have a nine foot rod that wobbles and it's impossible to get good casts because the wobble kills the line speed and it kills shooting line out.
I fish a T&T 10’ 3 wt. , moonshine epiphany 10’4” 2 wt. , Diamond back 10’ 1 wt. and the Sage ESN HD 10’ 2 wt. all three of these fish really well !!! Of the three, the moonshine is the heaviest but it’s a great rod. It recovers well, has a very light flexy tip and has backbone galore. For $299 I think from a novice to a professional, this blank suits every situation that a 2wt euro rod can do. I absolutely love the sage , t and t and the Diamond back as well. How a euro rod is rated by a weight can be deceiving. They can have a light flexy tip but have a stiff backbone. The Diamond back one wt backbone is comparable to a five wt dry fly rod. It would probably be difficult to buy a bad euro rod now days. Thanks for the video !!!
Lots of great rods you've gone with...you sound committed to this style, too! Thanks for sharing some insight and ideas with others; you're right, there are many great rods today. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
Thank you both. You mentioned the Moonshine. Is it worthwhile?
You're welcome, and thanks for the kind words. The Moonshine rod I had the most success with is the Vesper. I tested an early prototype of the Euro nymph model and was impressed with it at the price point. I also use the 9' 6 weight Vesper in Iceland, another great stick. Link to Vesper: amzn.to/3VQD0DX
My people say a man should make his own Arrows.
Take the time and learn the process (it's not easy) to build your own Czech Nymphing Rod or whatever you want to call them. Buy a good blank or two, single foot guides, lite flex coat and quality rapping threads and learn. I've seen high dollar rods that were built not knowing the proper Sline (important).
I too would like to know your thoughts on the moonshine epiphany 10’6 3wt. Thank you for the video.
Hi Bri, the Moonshine model I prefer is the Vesper. The 10'6" 3 weight Vesper is lighter, balances well, and has great recovery speed. Between the Epiphany and Vesper, I'm choosing the latter. Thanks for checking! Tim Link: amzn.to/3VQD0DX
@@TimCammisa I’m thinking about the diamondback 10’ or 10’10 2wt. Thoughts on either? 10’10 just seems really long and maybe not as universal for other methods?
@@bripen1019 Right now, I prefer an 11' 3 weight, and love the extra length for a variety of reasons. I wouldn't hesitate to go the extra 10" with the Diamondback. Good luck!
So what I tell people is get a rod that feels right. Now granted I fish mostly 10 footers and up but I always tell people who are getting into euro nymphing is get something in the 200-500 dollar range to start. You don’t want to be in it a lot if you don’t like it. The rods I recommend are orvis clearwater and recon along with cortland nymph rod. I have my opinion on other rods that I will keep to myself for the respect of others and their opinions as well as those companies but if you can only afford say a cortland nymph at the time go with that. I find in my own personally experience I can bounce between different rod lengths with ease but I have been doing it for a long time as well
Thanks for the insight, Corey, and you have some great ideas for others! The Recon is a rod I've had success with over the years, too...plus the Cortland series is excellent. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
@@TimCammisa I own several recons from the nymph rods to a 10’ 7 weight that I use for lakes, streamers and steelhead. I tell people to afford what they can. I use a cortland nymph all the tine and I’m very accurate and deadly with it
Great to know, and your advice for others is excellent!
@@TimCammisa once people get to know me and everything they tend to find out I don’t sugar coat things and I tell them how I see it and I’m not afraid to say I don’t like a certain rod. What I have found over the years is find what you feel most comfortable with because one rod is not perfect for everyone and not all situations. Different rods for different waters
A 10' 3wt ORVIS CLEAR WATER IS JUST FINE
Do you want "fine" or "great" in a rod? ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com
If u want a good euro rod, get the ones fished by the European guys, Vision nymphmaniac. The rod that is fished by most of the Spanish team and design by David ferreras. World champ...just saying .
Thanks for the comment, Luis, and I actually reached out to Vision. Currently, there are not many distributors in the United States, but hopefully more in the future. Tim www.troutandfeather.com
My 11 foot strike is far easier to cast, more accurate for me, is plenty sensitive and absorbs shock from bigger fish. Placing so much emphasis on recovery is not necessary
Appreciate your thoughts, Steven, and that's a rod I have yet to try out. You mention recovery, would you say the Strike is more sensitive or firm? Tim www.troutandfeather.com
I'm looking to purchase a Euro rod, my rod company preference has been Redington for a few years, I just like the way they perform. Very interested in the strike, saw a lot of good reviews by reputable companies, just wanted to know if you have fished the rod, and if so how did you like it? Thank you
Thanks for checking in, and Redington makes some good stuff. When it comes to Euro rods, I think there are a couple others I'd recommend around that price point. Shoot me an email: tcammisa@gmail.com Thanks! Tim