Ukraine's new mobilization law: not effective enough? | DW News
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- At least two people have been killed and several wounded in the latest Russian airstrikes on the Ukrainian city of Kharkiv. Kharkiv, which is close to the Russian border, and has increasingly been the target of attacks.
In western Ukraine, at least five people were killed and 30 wounded in a Russian missile attack on the Black Sea port of Odesa. One of the buildings badly damaged was a law school commonly known as the 'Harry Potter castle' of Odesa.
With the frontline situation worsening, Ukraine has been stepping up recruitment efforts. As part of a new mobilization law, Kyiv has stopped issuing passports and providing consular services for military-age men. Our next report looks at what this means for Ukrainians abroad.
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Safest country for Ukrainian men is ironically Russia.
No. They will be persecuted and probably interrogated due to "espionage" and "savoteours"
Send Boris Johnson...
Yes, no retreat for him.........😄
An excellent idea
Send Putin, first.
@kyoungd Putin was willing to negotiate 2 months after the war broke out. It’s just those fear mongers kept screaming “there is no one to negotiate with”, “he is going to invade us next”.
And his hair dresser too …..
Poor and crippled will fight. Rich and well-connected won’t.
Facts.
That is official policy. High tax payers are exempt - since they are essential to the economy.
@@Hereford1642 what are you talking about, mate? There is no such policy. It doesn’t exist. The only “policy” here is corruption on the scale of the state. Poor people are kidnapped from the streets and sent to the frontlines.
That happened even during world wars too, rich Americans used their influence and money to dodge conscriptions. Same right now with Ukrainian and russian rich/elites!
But infamous Joseph Stalin had that capacity. He refused to exchange his son an airforce officer of USSR imprisoned in Germany in lieu of some German high ranking officials during 2nd world war !!
.... when the wars begins, politicians give ammunition, the rich gave foods and the poor give their children. When the war end politicians shake hands, the rich raise foods price, and the poors look for the grave of their childrens....
~ Serbian proverb
''I dont blame the politician, i blame the soldiers who keep showing up, they're not that bright'' ~ George Carlin
Spot on...dark humor 😂
"War is when the government tells you who the enemy is. Revolution is when you decide that for yourself." ~ Benjamin Franklin
Blame the poor for sending their children to die for politicians then?
Victims of the War Pigs
I’m from Russia.
Don’t deport them back to Ukraine. They just want to live.
Russia should grant them political asylum. Most of them left the country because of the Clown in Kiev.
Oh look the russian advises us in military matters, let's all listen
Slava Russiye
They escaped the corrupt Ukrainian economy and government. Now EU will struggle with workers for all the lost jobs they provided tomthem.
@@alexwest2514 maybe u should, the Nato military advisors are jokers
If Ukrainians like Denys Davydov can avoid draft and keep living peacefully abroad, other Ukrainians could and should too!
Yeh don’t get it he post lot of videos daily talking about it but he wont go defend or join ukraine airforce
DENYS DAVYDOV, is not very smart. He leaves the country already sometimes in 2022.
@@kimchan382but he wants others to keep fighting while he making motivational videos
Yep!! They need to get their lives in order in new places and live in peace
@@victoranawanti5267 yup and it only caters western viewers, His type of vlog is for milking money not to support morally.
trapping civilians in Ukraine and forcing them to fight is insane
desperate times calls for desperate measures
Human shield
No, it's the democracy and european values.
Are you saying if your country was facing an existential war of existence you'd run? What do you stand for then?
@chrisdawe5976 I don't risk my life for a political class no lol. Ukraine is historically Russian this is basically a civil war
They should be drafting women too, Aren't women equal to men these days? what about gender equality. Democracy at its finest.
Exactly!! So much for equality
That's in the mentally ill NATO that has usurped the term "the west"
Ukraine was a smaller Russia until 2014 they're not at that level yet
They should, but feminists are silent as a grave on this issue, unsurprisingly.
They can't define a woman in America,
And toddlers
Rich man's war poor man's fight
Those people are called soldiers, not military officers
Sleepy Joe Biden and Boris Johnson 😏
@@greatman5836 last we checked the draft dodger Trump was having dozing off in court, and while president did fuckall to to get Crimea back to Ukraine.
Quite literally in this case. If you pay enough taxes in Ukraine you are exempt from military service.
Putins war
Nato will continue to fight to the last Ukrainian 😢
their lives are cheap in the eyes of NATO leaders cause it won't effect their poll numbers
Russia can end the war today, by going back to Russia. Why is Russia continuing the fight to the last Ukrainian? "Brothers" much, right?
The Russians are stopping the eastward movement of nato. Nato is the invader here. @@Puleczech
It's not NATOs war. It's Russia's war
@@timomueller3021 It's NATO war against Russia.
That is the democracy and freedom Europe always preaches.
The word democracy comes from the Greek words "demos" and "kratia", meaning people's rule.
The biggest mistake people make when talking about democracy is they assumed all people are "people".
Ancient Greece had a large slave population that weren't considered people, and when Europe preaches democracy, they only ever considered themselves as people.
The consider Ukrainians slaves.
@@vlhc4642 russian bots chatting with other russian bots...
@@anssiluomaranta34not everyone who disagrees with you is a bot lmfao.
@@itsv1p3r Except a russian bot can easily be identified. Or do you support Russia?
@@sobsag i certainly dont support my money being sent to ukraine. This war doesnt matter & it only exists to fund arms dealers. While Ukraine has a right to defend itself, they will never win, they never had a chance of winning, and its sad that so many young men are dying on both sides. Ukraine could come to the table and negotiate peace but instead its politicians prefer laundering more western support money at the cost of their citizen’s lives.
As a former Yugoslav, there is no money in the world I would take to go fight in a war... Like we didn't see that movie before. Lost everything, lost family Members while the politicians and their sons live their best lives.
100%
Well said! Yugoslavia was wealthier and better run than Bulgaria, , Romania and Greece before the civil war. It was such a total tragedy with the primadona ex communist leaders of each region suddenly finding god and nationalism as a tool for carving out their own political agenda. The whole coin could have joined the EU and then peacefully split like Czech and Slovakia. That war was a colossal waste of lives and money. At least Croatia and Slovenia made it into the EU.
Only 30k casualties but needed 500k to keep the frontlines defended, 😂, no wonder Ukraine's Military chief called Zlensky a liar lol
To be fair, Zaluzhny said that he needed 500,000 recruits (plus 400 billion dollars and 17 million shells) in order to attempt to take back Russian occupied land.
Its amazing to see how the west has failed and zelensky has become a billionaire its like another afghanistan
@@Hereford1642 earlier in the war, Ukraine said they have strong, high morale army, 800-1million men at best. Where are they now? Lol, all MIA? 30k only recorded casualties? Lol
@@nuke_Godjira + all taken from streets to a 1.5 mil total, noone knows where is those poor guys
Ukraine hasn't reported it's casualties. The 30 k is a straw man.
Nobody chooses the country they're born in, or the consequences of the choices of its leadership. If you can't convince a man to willingly fight for his home, his family and his country then you have bigger problems than the enemy at your doorstep. Maybe there isn't anything worth fighting for.
It seems their homes and families are elsewhere now.
But people of donbas and crimea are russians, and they want to live in russia, their right
Why should a man have to fight when a woman simply flees
Exactly, men should just flee too@@madmax5841
Why aren't we talking about equality ? Where are the conscripted woman ?
Men have to be provider , defender and then listen to bickering from women?
Well that is because Ukraine decided it to be so. Go bicker at them.
you are not wrong but it is because of childcare
read other news, dude
the women are serving the Ukrainian generals in the office
@@Onatyrade Many women don't have children these days, yet they still don't have to take part in the war effort. I'm not denying biological facts and the battlefield usually requires a strong physique. There are, however, other tasks during war time such as logistics and nursing, in which women are desperately needed. It is beyond absurd, that you can find Ukrainian women on tinder in the West at the same time young men are banned from leaving the country (the latter I fully understand and accept, the first is insane).
The original reason was to protect population recovery over the long term. Soviets had more women in military service than anywhere else during WW2. This was in spite of strong attitudes against it because they were desperate. Women continued in service postwar but there was also pressure for them have children to restore the population. Ukraine has conscription laws largely based on expectations of family roles and some gender bias based on perceptions of capabilities. But this is partially a product of the history of repeated demographic disasters in Ukraine such as the mass starvation of the Holodomor as well as wars.
Universal conscription regardless of gender would be more fair and more useful. But it would be an unpopular change in the law at this point. It still might happen if necessary.
Most of the ukanian living abroad left the country because they were fed up of corrupt polititians and lack of oportunities. Now those corrupt polititians want them to come anf fight for them. That's CRAZY, send the polititian to fight. Those people have their own lifes now. I have a few UKranian friends
Why isn't there any talk of a peace deal?
neither Russia nor Ukraine see any value in it, so it won't happen.
@@AlvarazCMSBnonsense. Putin offered peace but Boris Johnson made sure there wouldnt be peace. The west wants war to make more money.
There were peace talks, in Istanbul 2 years ago. But some countries (UK according to Putin, Germany and USA according to Naftali Bennet) made them fail
That boat sailed long ago, it's South Vietnam mode now.
@@AlvarazCMSB Zelensky prohibited any talks with Putin
Why can't USA mind it's own business and leave the world in peace.
They need resources of entire world to provide their prosperity and high standards of living, otherwise levels of prosperity will drop significantly.
USA consumes 50+% of world resources. Think about that.
Greed
They love to play the big bull in the china shop and throw their weight around.
Peace is not business, US can’t get some money if theres peace.
Frank has suddenly become more realistic than he used to be, things must be really bad for Ukraine's war efforts.
most realistic expert gave Zelensky 60 days max and Putin said a major operations in May and it'll end by September that 2 months ago sohis military might exceed his expectations why May? cause in May 20th Zelensky government will be illegitimate under international law so wish him luck
@@NoobGamer-sc9lt💯
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This war has become unwinnable and unsustainable for Ukraine in term of military. Ukraine has lost its ability to decide what’s going on next. It is fighting a Nato-Russia war. Negotiating is the best way out.
You don't negotiate with people that break into your house and claim your kitchen as theirs.
@@chrisdawe5976 only if you value your life less than your kitchen
@@chrisdawe5976 It is Russian land. Look at any map of Europe before 1991.
@@Simon-d what makes you think he’s only after ur kitchen
@@dennismenace3440 the only way to know that is to start the negotiations
You cannot make people fight if they don’t want to.
Remember when Syrians were Coming to Germany and Everyone was saying “why are these young men not fighting for their country”. Typical Hypocrisy of West🤮🤮🤮
In the ukriane they have been doing for 2 years lol
Hahahahahaha.
Ukraine lost 31K soldiers (Zelensky), and it needs 500K new soldiers to replace them.
and how many russia lost with mobilization and a dozen recruitment schemes?
Yes indeed. And we did not gave them enough to win... Yeah right!
@@MrKakibuy Russia has 50 thousand dead. Ukraine has 500 thousand.
@@MrKakibuy those where Subhuman minorities from far territories and not the Pure blooded "Muscovit" people so for them they cost nothing in lives.
@@MrKakibuyaccording to reliable sources the ration is 1:10 so Russia have lost around 50K
Because most people don't want to lost their lives.
More people serving reduces the individual risks for everyone as people can rotate through with less time on the front.
@@stupidburp Ukrainian army welcomes foreign volunteers. Why don't you conscript and help with the rotation?
@@user-je5hf8ow6g because it's easier to be brave whilst sitting safely at home on the computer.
@@user-je5hf8ow6g those year one volunteers are all dead or wounded. They disbanded
I bet they love Boris and brandon even more now.
This is PURE EVIl!
Exactly
Peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia without the western alliance.....the only way to create peace in eastern Europe
actually its opposite, the one who should NEGOTIATE is US
@@skarhabekgreyrukh8601😂😂 US, NATO, EU 😂😂what a joke. Minsk, Istanbul peace talks went to the winds. Now Russia will dictate the price.🎉🎉🎉
Thank you Boris and brandon for sending this kids to their demised 🖐
One of the problems, if not the most important one, is that the West won't stick to the terms of any agreement they make with Russia. If you make a deal with Ukraine and the West decides they don't like it, and they never do, they'll send more money into Ukraine to get them to renege on the deal. The heart of the war is in DC.
Then trust the US to scramble that on their way again
But President Zelensky said that only 30 000 Ukranian soldiers died... Why do we need more soldiers???? Arent there 800k more Ukranian soldiers on hold???
coz 500K is missing lol
😂😂😂
They are.....in other countries, like Germany.😆
Have you considered the wounded?
But President Zelensky said that only 30 000 Ukranian soldiers died.He was high on coke as usual when he said that!
I live in Kyiv. It's just impossible to register at military ofice - they let in only 20 persons out of 100 in a queue a day.They are not volonteers - the are forced by government co come or to have severe problems. And now I feel that if Zelensky led us to this war - let him fight there himself, this war is exactly his fault!
queues at the recruiting offices? Not in any video I have seen since 2022.
You blame Zelenskyy for the war and not the guy who's invading you? Are you high?
Do you hate Zelensky? Was Ukraine/Petrenko/Zelensky actually shelling Civilians in Donbass since 2014?
Who invaded Ukrain was USA in 2014 coup with Victoria Nuland at command.
@@mikev9 Western liberals are so entitled and have so little understanding on realpolitik that you just dont get how this is a NATO proxy war against Russia, it has always been... and inside Ukraine there is a loooooooot of people aware of this, it's natural if they dont want to die in the name of the west and their decaying culture.
Nobody wants to fight a loosing war
There are many things that you don't want to do but you have to.
NAFO fellas want it that way. But not with them on the battlefield, but with the Ukrainians on the battlefield.
@@markmd9you don’t have to die for geopolitics proxy wars against Russia 🇷🇺
@@bugazi3037 nobody except Russia wants this war.
@@markmd9 NAME ONE!
Yeah .. .forcing people to fight a war they dont want to be involved in will surely build a robust fighting force
Bravo.
There will be an express lane for surrender at the front.
WWII soldiers were drafted.
That's basically how every war ever has been fought.. read a book
If Russia wins their children will be forced to fight.
Yeah, those who are fighting in the front trenches must have had been dreaming to get there! Surely!
There are no men left in villages and towns to force into recruitment.
Of course, there are still men capable of fighting in Ukraine. You are talking nonsense!
@@vincentlagrange2329 where are they?? if they had then how come the militairy is looking for more constantly and forcing man into the militairy by dragging them from schools, work and more? Ukraine army is 90% dead and they force man to join now, ask even NATO to send soldiers as Ukraine can't fight against the power of the Russian army
Its a free real estate😆
@@vincentlagrange2329ya they are all rich. Ukraine doesn't have a middle class like the West does. You are either poor or well off.
@@etheu9sby292 You are wrong! Bulgaria is part of the EU since 2007, and a NATO member since 2004. Overall, the Bulgarians are among the poorest in Europe. I could also name Romania, Poland, Hungary, and Greece.
Fighting to the last man standing is just evil.
As a Ukranian who lives aboard I can take care of myself and my family without state "help". No money worth dying or becoming permanently mentally/physically disabled. If the country doesn't look for a solution to save as many people as possible why do people have to give their lives for nothing? There's no shame in striving to have a decent life for the people who you really need around (for the government you are just a number).
From my "peasant" point of view - neither Crimea nor any other part of Ukraine is worth a single human's life.
If you stand for nothing, you fall for anything.
Why call yourself Ukrainian if you aren't willing to fight for that identity?
@@chrisdawe5976 why are you not in trenches?
@@chrisdawe5976 Dude you mom is calling you, dinner is getting cold.
@@chrisdawe5976 Why women call themselves Ukrainian if they aren't willing to fight for that identity?
@chrisdawe5976, that’s why you fell for this sham pro ukraine stance
So is France coming in to save Ukraine?
Yes coming to surrender.
France and the United Kingdom together have enough manpower to take down Russia. You guys don’t have unlimited amounts of men lol. France and United Kingdom’s population nearly equal that of Russia’s.
😂😂😂😂@@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
Macron is enjoying on a freshly opened bottle of Chateau D'Feat.
Its amazing to see how the west has failed and zelensky has become a billionaire its like another afghanistan
Where are all the feminists now?
Ukrainian women are volunteering in large numbers as some men try to avoid serving.
@@stupidburp small numbers perhaps.
in the kitchen
Feminists are at the shopping malls getting their nails done.
@@stupidburp they don’t fight on the frontline though, they may work as medics very far from the frontline
The smart Ukrainians left before the war
The smart Ukrainians left in 90s
Why?
Denys Davydov 🇨🇭 🏃🏻♂️
@@mickg7299 good one
Revoke their Passports so they can't return after the war...
Surrender is the best strategy to save lives
That’s gonna start a wayyyyyyyyy bigger war
Since when lives matter?
@@JamesJenkins-ce9wvwith who ? You think NATO is ready for a nuclear war over Ukraine , don’t believe the hype kids
There's only going to be one winner,and Ukraine knows that,it will be called a peace deal.and the terms will not be favourable to Ukraine.theres been enough death and destruction. So I agree with you.
@JamesJenkins-ce9wv
It won’t, unless NATO attacks Russia. Russia does not want to go with war with NATO, that would be suicide. Compare budget spending of CSTO and NATO.
Hm...how come? We have been listening about great, brave Ukrainian victory, about Russia's running out of missiles, about Russian rockets flying on microchips from stolen washing machines, and DW is trying to explain us that Ukraine needs new 500k young men.
Also, Zelensky said that they "only" lost 31000 soldiers. More likely 310000.
@@aurex8937 Sadly, it is more than 310000. Ukraine had more than a million-man army. So, 500+ thou are more likely
@@donalexey and Russia has 600k in Ukraine and 1.5 million in reserves trained or under training and ready for next rotation non of the Russians have to keep fighting for years like Ukraine and the key victory is 3 to 1 infantry so Ukrainian clearly outnumbered in frontline
Russia ramped up military production and increased defense spending by a lot
You didn't hear about many brave Russian comrades
who fled to Turkey, Kazakhstan, Finland, and Mexico.
Only Ukrainian Men? when is the Women and the ?
Like the russian forces do?
@@gluteusmaximus1657 Ukraine are fighting for western values - like equality. Aren't they?
@@Hereford1642 They sure do. But i am pretty positive that not all western countries are drafting women equal to men. I mentioned russia because the kremlin uses female prisoners to fill the ranks, wich i found remarkable.
I thought women wanted equality.
That's possible
Only when it's beneficial
"Victims" don't want equality, they want revenge.
@@MrNPC that's quite true, I have six kids with, x,wife going through divorce in court 😞 she got custody of all the kids, even got custody of the judge 😄 lol women are too emotional they're no good on the front lines
😂
Why must we die for a corrupt government, they need to come to the front with us
Don't go!
Please don't throw away your lives
Don't go
Remember when they were saying Ukraine was winning 😂🤣😂😂
Ukraine can win or can loose but Russian will only have to loose either way.
@Arnold_Slater1223😂😂 looks like coping harder
👌👌👌👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
@@izajahmed8863😂😂😂😂😂
The whole thing is a money laundering thing. Such a joke. I'm in Canada and we throw so much Money to Ukraine that Canada is being destroyed! They said Canada only has enough ammunition for 3 days of war if someone attacked us. We give everything to Ukraine and Canadian soldiers are sleeping in their cars because they can't afford to live anywhere else. Monaco's Harbor is full of HUGE Ukraine owned yachts. Wonder what's going on.
The war is lost
?
Go read a history book
Yes, Putin can't win this war. You are right!
@@notapplicable4567looks like you should...
the war is already lost, thats why after 3 years and 450000 casualties russia can't take a single major Ukrainian city
Who would wish to risk their life and limb for a lost cause?
What about the women? I thought men and women has equal rights.
They don't want to get their hair doo mussed up.
equal rights, not equal obligations
@@josephhall1049yet another reason to not force men
LOL! They don't want equal rights when it comes to dangerous work or when the Titanic is sinking.
That’s a good point. Yeah should be same obligations.
Why are you guys forcing, if they are not interested?
Good question. I think it's Money laundering 🎯🎯
because ukraine does not have people left to fight, neither the weapons
@@julia-gx9eo If people dont want to fight,let them be.The rich kids in ukraine aint dying on the battle field.They are shielded from conscription .
That's what you do during war. When there's no more volunteers, you call up people to he mobilized.
I bet they love Boris and brandon even more now...
why you want to force people who doesn't want to join military? what is this ?
I thought women and men are equal in Europe? Why only man fight this war? This is ridiculous
Women are fighting in the Ukrainian war
Those rainbow colored are exempted as well 😂
"Ukraine has won the war by not losing all its territory".
By that logics the yanks won in Vietnam, or Germany won ww2
🤣🤣🤣 laughed at that part when the interviewee said that
😂😂😂😂😂 losing 600000 armed services personnel is winning?
@@pickeledminister317why not 6 million, orc?
"Russia has won, it only took half of donbass after 500000 casualties"
The Bear will take Odessa for the family
russia will not take odessa, this grave was buried with Kherson
@@MrKakibuy We will allow time to tell 😂
ruZZia hasn't even gotten Kherson how you expect them to get Odesa who's like 5 times bigger as a city 😂😂😂
@@PurpleChamelion-iy2xe If russia could take odessa, they just would. we don't need any theories and stories about what they will do in the future.
@@mikev9 people are delusional
Did Frank just say that Ukraine has already won the war?😮
LOOOOOL
Clever man…A real expert! 😂😂😂😂
he get payed to say that
Why hasn't the Russian military been pushed back to Moscow yet? I thought the Russians have lost the war due to massive American aid to Ukraine.
But Putin said he could take Kiev " within two weeks "... what happened there ?
Aid means nothing . The winners are those who fight actual wars .
@@steveb890 🤡💩🤫 Shhhhhh
@@steveb890 Please share the link or sound bite where Putin said that. As a US citizen in California, I have searched for this and couldn’t find it
Russia has flying shovels.
People who think that Ukraine is winning are living in denial. They seek comfort in subjective reality and ignore all the facts.
They usually see those channel in which one Russian soldier died, another one who surrendered, another one who was hit by a drone. Specific cases
Most of them are high in copium.
"People who think that Ukraine is winning are living in denial." As well as the people that think Russia is a super power is "living in denial." They are a gas station with nukes, nothing more.
That may be true - but you are obviously a bot account. You post pro China/Russian or Hamas content all round RUclips.
Are you in denial that Hamas has lost its war?
@@nuke_Godjira And will bash anybody publishing maps with Crimea under Russian control even if it's already been >10 years ago
Realistic analysis. It's no mistery why the young in the middle classes (and higher) are excluded from military service. It's always the lower classes that fight and die for their country. And I wonder if EU law would permit people to be sent back to Ukraine against their will without a legal process in a court of law.
EU courts are capable of any kind of depravity.
@@neilreynolds3858 Says the russian criminal.
War means killing
War means destruction .War beings no fruits
Weren't you complaint about Americans in Afghanistan? How's this any different
@@jimpachihaihachima1753 Afghanistan was lunacy. This is lunacy. Lunacy is how you gain status in the West.
@@neilreynolds3858 the two wars have no resemblance in even the slightest way. Afghan was a policing type effort. This is a clearcut medieval seige of a nation that has never even had the slightest tones of aggression toward ANYone! It is the most barbaric attack by obviously soldiers of such low mentality that they are mere common criminals, not soldiers per se. Ru will be contained by someone, OR there will be no future economy of this planet, bcuz the real economy factors of this planet rely on Europe. You need to get real and cut the b.s. from the cold war.
When the war started in 2022, they claimed that the Russians are fleeing their country for fear of conscription, now this one speaks volumes.😂😂 We know the fact by ourselves
Conscription is slavery.
commence peace talks
Please just agree to peace talks, ffs. Victory is not achievable, save what is worth saving.
2 white countries kill each other. Ukr was 38 mil population, wonder what will be the official population after the war.
The West always underestimates Russia, the same mistake over and over again.
As a millennial man I applaud those unwilling to become easy prey in a war they didn't call for.
It’s easy to be brave behind a keyboard, harder behind a rifle
They are now blackmailing the Ukrainian citizens .. tragic
if a country doesnt provide passport services it may be is time to ask polythical asylum in another country
This is absurd!!! Women should also be included in the draft. Why is there not any feminist representative advocating for women’s equality
Can I ask why only men, not women are "recruited"?
Conscription is inhumane, no matter what country or cause... And this is definitely not "recruitment".
Its amazing to see how the west has failed and zelensky has become a billionaire its like another afghanistan
@@blackhorse9729So men and women are treated equally in terms of mobilization?
@@k.s.mountakis170 easy answer , NO. men and women are not treated equally
because somebody needs to take care of the children... as it has always been
Kudos Russia.
Fighting against NATO single handedly.
Ukraine is fighting Russia with a bit of Nato equipment. NATO troops involvement would look a lot different for all of us. As it would be a Global Conflict. 😉
@@DH-vt3ql NATO troops was in Harry Potter castle today
@@DH-vt3qla bit of equipment? 🤣
@@Chaldon-hl6yk oh yea how many? A whole Division? A full strength Army with full spectrum capability?
We all know that advisors from some Nato countries have been in Ukraine for a few years now. Don’t be coy a pretend that you have the effect of a Nato army.
State facts and not some inflated narrative. Show me NATO casualties report from conventional forces being employed in Ukraine.
@@hoang1730 in comparison to what a Nato coalition could bring to fight Russia. Yes, it is a bit indeed.
Nobody should ever be forced to fight a war
The fact is, that after 60 days training, you are a dead man walking on the front, against Russian troops trained for 2 years 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Kiev in threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee days 😂😂😂
Nah, Well trained russian soldiers are the thing of the past. At this point, there is no soldier on either side who have 2 years combat training, except the brass. Russia lost its well trained forces already.
@@ZappinaDo you have any source to confirm that or bs as usual?
@@eeg-rh7jv Just count back from the first mobilization and try to add 2 years. Now you dont mobilize if you have enough men in your professional army. Simple logic.
You can't build muscles in just 2 months it takes years to build and for army you need physical strength, so they are basically dead
You beg for weapons to fight super power county, sick determination.
To the last Ukrainian say the rich men nth of Richmond ?
Fun fact: for most sane people, being alive is more important than any other reason in an obvious unwinnable war. How about VZ just sits down and accepts the conditions for peace before annihilating its population.
Он не легитимный. Сначало нужно провести выборы. Затем отменить запрет на ведение переговоров.
@@AAhillessyes. you realize that as long as martial law is established, and VZ is constantly indebted to the West, generating continuous political pressure, the voice of the people must be very strong for him to acknowledge that the situation is a downword spiral.
And still you peddle war. How many people have to die before you talk peace ?
Ukranians know they are being used by the West and do not want to die to achieve NATO dreams of reaching to the Russian borders. They know who is Zelensky and for who he works. Your aid will end up as trophies.
No rights, no documents, no right for life. Is it democracy?
it's exploitocracy.
You can't force people to fight, just as you can not force people to vote, when Zelensky went war did he consult the public, how many of Zelensky family are fighting
Wasn’t it Russia that declared war and invaded?
They all hold foreign passports!
Population of Russia is 5x that of Ukraine. If you still have questions, see a psychiatrist.
Yeah. but population of Russia is 10 times less than combined nato.
Most military-age men fled the country. No one wants to die for the tsar.
''Population of Russia is 5x that of Ukraine. If you still have questions, see a psychiatrist.'' And your point is?
@@AlexanderTchand NATO combined is half that of china before we talk of India. All Russian allies
Let Zelenskyy and other government officials lead the charge to the front lines, so maybe some Ukrainian people will eventually follow them
Why only military aged men? Why not women? 🤔
Women soon too
@@pacivalmuller9333 Cope
So basically forcing people to fight that don’t wanna fight. This is ridiculous! Forcing people to fight will have a backlash in a negative way
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You can't force people, even if you do they'll just ran away or surrender.
Time to end this.
True, time for Russia to stop bombing Ukraine and leave.
@@vincentlagrange2329Time for Ukraine to negociate without Western interverences and end this war.
@@hugobernard9874 Only Ukraine can decide when it's the right time to negotiate. By the way, Ukraine wants to join the free world and get closer to the European Union. Therefore, it's not interferences since Ukraine is asking for their help and wants to join them eventually.
@@vincentlagrange2329Says BlackRock and JP Morgan 😂
0:40 the face of western democracy
What is the face of Western democracy? Explain yourself!
@@vincentlagrange2329 hypocrisy and deception
@@avex3903 Well, I live in a Western democracy, Canada, and I don't feel that way. Things can be improved but I'd rather live here than in a dictatorship like Russia.
Who is escalating already Herr Bundeskanzler? It is not Ukraine!
I guess they tested the Ukrainian air defense and their own precision.
Ukrainians should be thanking Boris Johnson…not he will be joining the war. He is probably in his mansion somewhere enjoying Tea and biscuits 😂😂😂
Just look at what voting a comedian into office can cause. He's now looking to Ukrainian men abroad to come home and fight? This is laughable. Incredibly hilarious! To me, it's just a gimmick to get the Americans to pay them more money!
Tens of thousands more will die solely because of Zelensky’s ego it’s a damn shame
Imagine the motivation of a military detachment where the majority of troops are conscripted against their will often by simply being dragged from streets and sent to fight with just a couple of weeks' training. Yep, Ukraine clearly has a good plan of how to last in that war for another year.
. Think Paul, Think. Is the draft of poor young men a new concept? Is this a historically untried government policy? New to History? Think. Then answer.
What do poor young men do when drafted to War? "Imagine the motivation".
@@TriAmpHiFi Refuse to follow orders. Run. Surrender.
@@PaulV.
. Well which is it? Poor, young, male draftees did that in the past? Or are you saying they will refuse to follow orders, run or surrender now? I'm looking at history as a predictor for the future.
My answer is, they will do as they have always done which is........ What? again.
I'm hoping, Paul, you'll answer the questions because you may find their historical behavior comforting and perhaps even a bit inspiring.
@TriAmpHiFi Times have changed. Even poor young people today are not the same peasant draftees they were a century ago. Ukraine is a highly urbanized European country. The new generations are raised with comfort. They value their life much more than some hypothetical "duty to their country", for most even the concept of "home country" is alien and they think of themselves first. Some will fight. Most will do everything they can to not do that even after they find themselves on the frontlines.
@@PaulV. .
So your answer is, times have changed and poor young draftees did NOT refuse to follow orders, run or surrender back in the day but now poor young draftees WILL refuse to follow orders, run or surrender.
History and active wars today prove that wrong because hundreds of thousands of poor young draftees are firing weapons at each other on front lines all over the globe every day.
Poor young draftees get two opportunities to make a choice. First, facing the conscription itself. Run or be executed. Second, to fight when faced with people shooting at you to kill.
So what happens? What always happens? Where's the motivation you ask?
After a group of disparate poor young draftees are thrust together in boot camp training something transformative happens. They learn they have strengths they never knew they had & they learn to operate as a cohesive force without individualism. The bonds of a Soldiers Brotherhood are sown.
They WILL fight for each other. They won't care about the reasons why. The most important motivation is to stay alive. Their brother on their right alive.
Their brother on their left alive.
Poor young draftees have always fought this way and will always fight this way.
This is pathetic. Men who do not want to fight are forced to fight and die. Its almost certain that you will die or seriously wounded if take part in this war. This war must be stopped now.
Sounds like the rounding up of Military Age Ukrainians within the EU and sending them back to Ukraine option is getting closer than ever.
think so too
@@patrickgz the humanitarian European Union
In Hamilton, Canada, at a European grocery store where I work, I can't believe how many young and strong Ukrainian men come in daily to shop.
Good to hear. It means they're not being sacrificed in hopeless proxy war.
I'm sure if you were Ukrainian, you would be there.Keyboard warrior.
and canada pays them from your taxes. be happy
@@praguepersona9624 we might say the same about you
How can you distinguish them as Ukrainians?
Is like they are forcing them to go and die, if someone doesn't want to fight , why force them especially when they are outside of the country. This is against the law and respect for individual freedom
Rich people convincing poor people to die as pawns is always a mystery to me
Why peace talk is completely ignored? This war could have been apparently avoided.
Exactly. That's why the greentroll is such a liar.
The west said no to peace talks
Peace? What peace?
DW, Why you are not reporting US college protests ? This should be a big news for you right now?
because its unimportant, why western should care about Palestine?
Coz they are owned by the same shadow people that own CNN , FOX, MSNBC
because isnt part of the hate Russian agenda
because germany is an american colony
Did they lament the deaths of civil people in Belgorod?
Now if your wife tells you about equality make sure she understand you ain equals
I hope young Ukrainians will look into citizenship in Argentina
based
*Canada
@@aAverageFan too expensive, takes longer to get papers
“The fighting is being done by the Ukrainians [more than 800 thousand Ukrainian soldiers lost their precious Lives in a Proxy war Against Russia on Behalf of US, EU, and Nato], they are the people who are being killed. The US and Europe are supplying them weapons.” - Zanny Minton Beddoes, the Economist’s Editor-in-chief
Coming after those who fled the war really says to the last Ukrainian
Why is it only men? What about equality?