Why Japanese Women Split Over Having Kids

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
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  • @Andrew-gn9qp
    @Andrew-gn9qp 6 дней назад +83

    Why you would want low fertility (child free), and then at the same time high immigration. You're just creating a society where children are expensive and cheap labour is abundant. This makes no sense.

    • @MusiqueMonsieur
      @MusiqueMonsieur 6 дней назад

      It doesn't make sense until you realize that the goal isn't to build a cohesive society. It's to provide cheap labor for the wealthy. So many people on the left think that mass immigration is somehow sticking it to the man, when almost every billionaire is 100% in support of it. It's so crazy.

    • @SystemBD
      @SystemBD 6 дней назад +44

      You are not "creating" a society. You are simply replacing it with another.

    • @deker0954
      @deker0954 6 дней назад +3

      A marriage contract should be created by the couples. It should be legally enforceable upon signing it. Marriage laws now are a no go.

    • @adambane1719
      @adambane1719 6 дней назад +13

      It does to the elites. Its exactly their goal.

    • @luodeligesi7238
      @luodeligesi7238 6 дней назад

      @@adambane1719no they don't - they want a society where they can hoard the wealth and you get nothing. How that is actually accomplished doesn't matter as much to them as getting to that point.

  • @verynice5574
    @verynice5574 4 дня назад +17

    Using immigration to solve a low birth rate is like pouring Pepsi on your cereal because you ran out of milk.

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX 2 дня назад

      Indeed

    • @Quinceps
      @Quinceps День назад

      @@verynice5574 Inmigration is exactly what’s saved European powers from decay. Stop trying to save your own exclusive spot in Japan as if you somehow mattered more. Japan won’t complain if it can’t survive on its own and will for sure open its arms to more immigration. The problem is the obsolete political system plagued with dinosaurs and dynasties.

    • @moxine_
      @moxine_ День назад

      ​@@Quincepsthere's no "powers" in Europe, Germany, France and the UK are all falling apart at an alarming rate

  • @johnoconnell8609
    @johnoconnell8609 4 дня назад +17

    "You don't have to be perfect, to be a good parent." This is a golden rule and one that so many people are unawares of.

    • @lancelala5556
      @lancelala5556 20 часов назад

      Yeah, and use your child as an experiment for you to learn to be a parent right? Every parent is so selfish that they only think of fulfilling what they want, not what harm they are imposing on their child who does not need to exist in the first place

    • @lancelala5556
      @lancelala5556 20 часов назад

      Even using your child to improve the economy is selfish and stupid. Existing people should solve the world's problems themselves, not dump the responsibility on beings who don't need to be here
      If one doesn't have kids, they have so much more time and resources to make a difference than to shove the burden onto the next generation. People are indeed brainwashed

    • @asyraf210
      @asyraf210 10 часов назад

      ​@@lancelala5556 every parent? Lol😂 pity you no one love u.

  • @secondhorizon
    @secondhorizon 7 дней назад +72

    Japan Government Figures for "Foreign Workers" greatly exaggerate how many are actually working vs. simply holding the privilege (papers) to be legally employed.

    • @griffihn
      @griffihn 6 дней назад +8

      as an addendum to that: most of those that have the papers to be legally employed in Japan have either never been in the country or have left several years ago. this is due to the digital age and the ease of internet access and data transfers. and yet, they are still counted as "foreign workers" because they actually contribute the automatic taxes on their pay. welcome to bureaucracy!

  • @JohnDoe-pt7ru
    @JohnDoe-pt7ru 6 дней назад +26

    I don't take antinatalism seriously when it comes from the same people who think we should import third world migrants to "help".

    • @johnoconnell8609
      @johnoconnell8609 19 часов назад

      @@JohnDoe-pt7ru I absolutely agree with you on that.

  • @ekurisona663
    @ekurisona663 6 дней назад +154

    at age 75, ask women who had children if they regret having children
    at age 75, ask women who didnt have children if they regret not having children

    • @johnnymosam7331
      @johnnymosam7331 6 дней назад +42

      Finding 75 year old women without children is hard right now, but will be very easy in 30 years!

    • @mardshima2070
      @mardshima2070 6 дней назад +27

      Nah, even women at late 40s - early 50s many of them regret that.
      The same also true for men.

    • @mark9294
      @mark9294 6 дней назад +4

      The answers may surprise you.

    • @mark9294
      @mark9294 6 дней назад +1

      The answers may surprise you.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 6 дней назад +19

      People have literally done studies on this, the vast majority regret not having kids, and of the current women who either aren't able to have them or are likely not to most wanted kids, they left it too late.
      There is a reason why IVF has exploded.

  • @JoshSJoshingWithYa
    @JoshSJoshingWithYa 6 дней назад +27

    The lady at 5:44 hits the nail on the head. It isn't about capability or skills, it's about commitment and willingness.

  • @AhidoMikaro
    @AhidoMikaro 6 дней назад +57

    "doesn't cross my mind"
    **hugs her baby size teddy bear**

  • @teppatreppa859
    @teppatreppa859 7 дней назад +67

    I think there is a reverse pressure to be a career woman in this era. When I left my job/career to be a full time mom, my boss told me to “be careful” because employers don’t like to see gaps in resumes. And she made sure to emphasize that it’s going to be really hard to find a job when (or if) I want to go back to the work force.
    I left my job and I really feel that it was the right decision. I loved my job, and I am happy for the time I’ve worked, but I am happier knowing that I can spend this part of my life with my kids, while they’re still young and they need me most.
    I won’t get the validation of being a very important person in charge of very important things at a very prestigious company, but my kids will always have nutritious meals and lots of time with mom lol.

    • @Aequitas4VERlTAS
      @Aequitas4VERlTAS 6 дней назад +4

      I laugh because I know a lot of people who can't cook.

    • @samiuseliina
      @samiuseliina 6 дней назад +6

      Must be nice to be in a situation where 1 income provides for the family. Majority are not in that situation. Childcare needs to be subsidized to make it affordable and the work life balance needs to be a priority for companies that make having multi-kid families possible.
      My work is very friendly and flexible to parents. Which is why we have enough kids within the office to run a GeoCamp in the summer. employees can take paternity leave and then adjust their work schedule when they return until the child is older or full time child care is obtained (you need to be on wait lists the moment you know you are pregnant). Until Japan changes the work culture to allow flexibility of both parents to BE parents. It's not going to increase the birth rate.

    • @YumukoChan
      @YumukoChan 6 дней назад +10

      Just wanted to let you know that your values are in the right place and you are doing the best thing.

    • @thathandsomedevil0828
      @thathandsomedevil0828 6 дней назад +4

      You did great, thank you for being there for your children. 😊

    • @jmw1982blue
      @jmw1982blue 6 дней назад +10

      When your kids are grown, you'll be able to go into whatever you want. Employers give a lot of propaganda by thinking they own people. In the end, if you have skills and they need someone that's all that matters.

  • @bradenwoodward7881
    @bradenwoodward7881 5 дней назад +18

    Uh huh... Pro-immigrant. While getting a bank account in Japan as a foreigner is a nightmare. Getting discriminated by landlords for affordable housing. Japanese actively avoiding you on public transportation. Not offering full time jobs to foreigners so the companies don't have to pay for social security or healthcare. Yeah, Japan is really pro-immigration. Another case of Japan saying something that sounds good but never backs it up with their actions.

    • @charleskuhns6042
      @charleskuhns6042 2 дня назад

      Absolutely correct. Isn’t it like 3 months max you can stay over there on a visa? Meanwhile I believe in Korea you can stay for 1-2 years on a visa. Japan is very conservative in changing their policies but it would seem things might be faster than it has been in the past for change

  • @Astitto-yv6vn
    @Astitto-yv6vn 6 дней назад +37

    Without kids a society become a dying society.

    • @mahakhatib27
      @mahakhatib27 6 дней назад +5

      And no lasting future.

    • @TheInternationalAsshole
      @TheInternationalAsshole 5 дней назад

      Dnt worry guys China is making a baby machine 😅

    • @1Manimation1
      @1Manimation1 4 дня назад

      Nice propaganda from the government. Because all the government needs is more cogs in their machines. Yes, breed so we can bring your kids up in more minimum wage labor jobs and send them off to wars to die in our grand plan. It’s only a "dying society" according to the rich and powerful when the people think for themselves and not wanting to have kids when they are not ready. But it’s not a “dying society” when the government doesn’t fix its work system so the people don’t actually die from overwork and have time to have kids. And then “fix” this problem by bringing in immigrants to become the new cogs in the machine, replacing the natives with the immigrants, therefore changing the structure of the country forever.

    • @TheLegitAlpha
      @TheLegitAlpha 4 дня назад

      You sorta summed up one of the effects of late capitalism.

    • @Beresunablle
      @Beresunablle 4 дня назад +1

      ​@@TheLegitAlpha capitalism is just how society will always going to be there no other choice

  • @rustyburger
    @rustyburger 7 дней назад +62

    Nearly everywhere is having this problem, it's not just a "japan problem" the way our societies are being run makes this happen by design.
    Types of industries that men work in have been under cut again, and again, and again while the dollar value is inflated everywhere along with inflated housing just creates a scenario where men are less independant, and women aren't attracted to men that can't provide for themselves, or their potential family. To truly address this problem we must fix our economies, and get to the root cause of the problems in them rather then blame women, or blame men. Give people security, and these problems will go away. The lack of lucrative employment, and reasonable housing, and the under cutting of wages and the literal dollar inflation on top of that is what is responsible for birth rates being low, and it's by design. All blaming men, and blaming women does is distract from the reality. Break the genjutsu.

    • @TrytheGreenOne
      @TrytheGreenOne 6 дней назад +10

      This. It's definitely a security problem. If we made money the way we did in the last century, where one full-time partner could afford a house and everything in it, we would have plenty marriages bearing children. If both people in the partnership have to work to keep finances afloat, adding kids into the mix can be brutal. I foresee job market getting worse with AI taking over some types of jobs. ( I know it's a bit of a bogeyman right now but already happened at my friends place, removed most of his department. ) unemployment rates going to be tough.

    • @蓮90
      @蓮90 6 дней назад +1

      Yep. Never would have considered having my son if we didn't have a parent at home and more money coming in than we can spend. Even still, we won't be having any more kids. Life would just be too hard with the way things are. It's no mystery people don't want them. I feel so bad for future generations who will have to deal with this problem once it has spiraled out of control.

    • @piotrmalewski8178
      @piotrmalewski8178 6 дней назад +3

      It's highly developed nations problem only. Everyone else have the problem of having too many children they can economically support, or even their local environment can support.
      In these terms there are two basic cultures; one most highly concerned about what future children are going to have, and the other, that has absolutely no concern for them or even sees them as a tool for ideology war effort.

    • @FenrirRobu
      @FenrirRobu 6 дней назад

      It's a good point, but if we have an opportunity to learn what's pressuring people not to have children, we might as well learn that too. For example, in the past people spent a lot of time maintaining their households. Nowadays, that is not fashionable, and so many people want to be away from their homes more. What has changed to make people desire more adventures and achievements over family?
      I could buy a dozen apartments in a village for the price of one apartment in a city, yet I buy none.

    • @777Lxxx
      @777Lxxx 5 дней назад +1

      It's being done on purpose

  • @thathandsomedevil0828
    @thathandsomedevil0828 6 дней назад +20

    Get rid of the horrendous work culture at the very least!

  • @theboredengineer2947
    @theboredengineer2947 7 дней назад +174

    As a woman, I'd be fine giving birth but cost of living these days are rapidly increasing while wages stagnate. It is so demotivating to raise a family this way honestly. No chance for me in this situation to focus on having and raising a baby for a while especially on the delicate first 3 years of life. I don't want a nanny or daycare for these years as I want to raise my baby with my whole time, energy and effort. My husband's salary alone and my measly savings won't cut it if our family will be a solo income for a while.

    • @jamesdrake3651
      @jamesdrake3651 7 дней назад +41

      Wages stagnate because the wealthy like it that way. That's why the wealthy love immigration. An over saturated labor market means flattened wages.

    • @akhsanarrazi7825
      @akhsanarrazi7825 7 дней назад +28

      ​@@jamesdrake3651and those wealthy people forgets that if the middle and lower class stops making babies, it's only a matter of time till there's no one left to do their dirty work

    • @sage4293
      @sage4293 7 дней назад +10

      People keep complaining about wages but if that's a barrier, then how were people during the Great Depression able to have such large families?

    • @gotakazawa408
      @gotakazawa408 7 дней назад +9

      I understand your feelings and the current situation well. I want to clarify that I don't mean this in a negative way, but historically in Japan, families could support themselves solely on the husband's salary, for better or worse. As women have made advancements in society, it has become ironically challenging to have and raise children. This phenomenon is observed in many advanced countries. Specifically in Japan, I feel that this issue is exacerbated by negative messaging from the government and media, including social media. (I'm not sure why, but it seems the government is very keen on increasing taxes.)
      However, there are companies implementing progressive initiatives in reality. Unfortunately, these efforts are seldom highlighted, and many people don't even have the opportunity to learn about them. Nobita should consider creating videos to showcase the initiatives of such companies.

    • @Quinceps
      @Quinceps 6 дней назад +12

      @@sage4293 Because they didn’t have any contraceptive methods. Lofe was just different. Kids were sent to work. That’s not a choice whatsoever.

  • @mr.g6875
    @mr.g6875 6 дней назад +20

    This is what my parents told my sister childhood friend and a best friend when they were about to have a baby " No one is born ready to be a parent but you learn along the way with you child"

    • @mahakhatib27
      @mahakhatib27 6 дней назад +3

      Exactly. You're not going to be perfect with everything you try for the first time.

  • @BlackPhoenix313
    @BlackPhoenix313 6 дней назад +10

    So let me get this straight.
    Japan is more tolerant of immigration now, but over-tourism is a problem?

    • @JamieBar
      @JamieBar 4 дня назад

      Many Japanese people think immigration and tourism are the same thing.

  • @kylekylelam3870
    @kylekylelam3870 7 дней назад +15

    Since the urban metropolitan in Japan is overwhelming, the best choice is to assist young people to move back to countryside where people are lacking in.

  • @Uchidaful
    @Uchidaful 6 дней назад +9

    like the most German womens (2 cats, 1 Dog, but 0 kids) , very sad!

  • @37000
    @37000 6 дней назад +7

    I think many people ignore the fact that the modern world offers so many things to do that having children means giving up those things and for many the supposed benefits of having children do not outweigh the decision.
    In times past and especially when women were very limited in deciding what to do with their lives it was normal that starting a family was the "only" logical way to go.
    Add to this that Japanese culture makes it difficult to make new friends, find a partner, start a married life etc. These are complicated things and it is more normal that many women (and men) do not want to have children.
    And this is talking about practical reasons because many people are still not able to accept that not everyone is interested in becoming a parent just because.

    • @JohnDoe-pt7ru
      @JohnDoe-pt7ru 6 дней назад

      That would make sense if women weren't more miserable than ever and taking anti depressants while making tik tok videos of how lonely and sad they are.

    • @charleskuhns6042
      @charleskuhns6042 2 дня назад

      This is an interesting argument. Each individual person having a subconscious battle inside of their mind; ‘things I like to do’ vs ‘basic reproduction’.
      I guess the bread and circuses so to speak are so great that we’re witnessing it in real time and what effect it has on basic evolutionary psychological functions.

  • @luziaflone1951
    @luziaflone1951 2 дня назад +4

    Been married for 6 years now and no kid. Actually kinda glad that way. Costs of living is mad nowadays.

  • @Sup_D
    @Sup_D 7 дней назад +56

    One of the primary reason i think relating to lower childbirth is the increase in the notion of being Independent and Living separately from Parents.
    As this is creating more Single/Nuclear Family, which is putting more pressure on the Women in the current career based society as neither couple has the capacity to take time-off for child-rearing.
    Atleast in the case of a Joint Family, there would always be someone to look after the kid while the parents are busy with their work or taking a break.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 7 дней назад +13

      Yes, this is correct.
      Social degradation makes life difficult.
      Community building is probably something to be investing in as an actual thing and not just a corporate buzz word. The number one investment is time, as social relationships are built on the social stuff, not government grants, even if grants are measurable.

    • @Melody5p
      @Melody5p День назад

      dad should be working it’s always been that way. And if the solution is to have a nanny watch the kid, then dad should’ve married the nanny not a career driven woman

  • @mongoriansrus
    @mongoriansrus 7 дней назад +208

    As soon as I heard them say "western influence" I literally face palmed. America is in shambles in terms of social and family issues. We've fallen so hard and so fast away from reality here that if we're influencing other countries with this idiocrasy, the world should be concerned. Their citizens for the first time in a long time should not emulate American standards and trends. They are not sustainable and certainly go against common sense and history. It's a shame. Don't fall like America Japan, you're such a unique and amazing country.

    • @ivanbluecool
      @ivanbluecool 7 дней назад +42

      @@mongoriansrus Japan already fell that's why they have been having the same birth rate issue for a decade ago least now. Korea is now feeling the extra affects same as west Taiwan. You need to get out of your bubble and see that. East doesn't automatically mean better it's just bad but a different side of bad

    • @Redcloudsrocks
      @Redcloudsrocks 7 дней назад +31

      japan fell into this issue long before america
      It's not just about copying other countries.
      peoples values etc. what they want and wish for nowadays is far more ''live the good life and grasp for anything for YOURSELF'' rather than actually build a family or legacy

    • @Momo-qo7is
      @Momo-qo7is 7 дней назад +16

      @@mongoriansrus it’s not the trend. It’s about the weakened 円 and stigmatised issues towards single mothers in the society. There is still limited career progression and salary growth in Tokyo and Japan for women.

    • @jamesdrake3651
      @jamesdrake3651 7 дней назад

      @@Momo-qo7is More career opportunities for women does not mean you will have more children or a healthier culture. The West leads in this yet the West is in the midst of widespread cultural and population decline. Working, career, making money doesn't make your culture better. It simply feeds the people on the top who convince the plebs below them that working and buying stuff stuff is the ideal way to live.

    • @t-spark
      @t-spark 7 дней назад +3

      ​@@Momo-qo7iswell said about economics. Most jobs dont have the career progression to show women that a similar aged could support her easily if she didnt work.
      But also, the jobs that do often require so much training that the guys arent very well socialized by the time they have money (all their time was spent on school)

  • @LukasVokrinek
    @LukasVokrinek 6 дней назад +8

    I think it's also fair to blame the news negativity bias. Sure there were TV news before but now that we're literally bombarded with negative news every day, it's bound to have an impact. The positivity of having children in the times of our parents and grandparents has slowly been seeping away. It could also be perceived as part of traditional values / roles which certainly not everyone is appreciative of these days. Lastly, raising a child should definitely be a team effort, especially today, just like marriage and the relationship itself. The materialistic and individualist focus of today's society is antithetical to that. So a lot of factors are not making the notion of child bearing a positive one unfortunately, even for those who want to have children in the first place.

  • @t-spark
    @t-spark 7 дней назад +33

    The concern over readiness is a type of social consciousness thats more present in Japan. But no one knows if theyre ready for such a big step.

    • @Akio.B.7
      @Akio.B.7 7 дней назад +1

      and when they turn 80s or 90s they gonna cry cuz no one around them instead of robots like wt.... they think of??

    • @t-spark
      @t-spark 7 дней назад +7

      ​@@Akio.B.7 Its a big decision that requires being all in, and maybe that shouldnt be written off so simply. A lot of people are too anxious to think clearly and optimistically about many decades later

    • @Akio.B.7
      @Akio.B.7 7 дней назад +1

      @@t-spark well said 🫡

    • @gotakazawa408
      @gotakazawa408 6 дней назад +1

      A few years ago in Japan, the government presented calculations suggesting that retirees would need around 20 million yen (approximately $120,000 USD) in addition to pension funds, which sparked significant discussion at the time. (Many people lack such liquid assets.) Meanwhile, recently in the United States, an article stated that retirees would need 400 million yen (approximately $2.5 million USD) in assets. I wonder what percentage of people actually have such liquid assets totaling 400 million yen (approximately $2.5 million USD)?

    • @t-spark
      @t-spark 6 дней назад

      ​ @gotakazawa408 That's an interesting question, but do you think that it's cheaper or more expensive to live together in Japan? In theory, a stable relationship means paying less for dates, housing, and taxes, than both people would individually, and that should make it easier to have a retirement fund.
      Also: $2.5mil sounds outrageously high. No one actually /needs/ to live in a big city like San Francisco or NYC while retired.

  • @Nachowz
    @Nachowz 2 дня назад +2

    Part of this cultural shift (ALL over the world, especially westernized locations) is that we do not like discomfort.
    Having children can be very uncomfortable: financially, physically, and spiritually. You’re forced to give up creature comforts and certain luxuries, you’re tested through lack of sleep and manual labor, and your children can become a daunting spiritual mirror for you (showing you all the ways you lack patience/kindness/all the good things you thought you had but actually lack). Thing is, you don’t become stronger unless you’re tested. You can’t gain patience unless your patience is tried. And you wont ever truly know how special having a child is (or isn’t) to you, unless you have one.
    Obviously it isn’t for everyone. But I think many more people would want them if they understood the price versus the gains.

  • @syafiqrenaissance6490
    @syafiqrenaissance6490 7 дней назад +17

    Having kids came with a lot risk... The environment you raised them, the cost of raising kids from baby to 18 years old, the divorce rate within the countries, possibilty of losing jobs in future and so on.. you dont want to born babies into this world with so many disparity surround them..

    • @michaelbuddy
      @michaelbuddy 6 дней назад +1

      yeah giving up and dying depressed and alone is a guaranteed worse risk. Imagine the difference in living between 60 to 80 with kids vs without kids. One life is fulfilled and happy and vibrant, the other is a recipe for depression and a waste of a family lineage and all the work your ancestors have done to bring you here. Squander what your parents did for you.

    • @TrytheGreenOne
      @TrytheGreenOne 6 дней назад +7

      @@michaelbuddy it would be a pretty shit choice to make human beings merely to escape the idea of your own eventual depression, to create life in a pretty miserable world just to not die alone sounds pretty selfish and I have known some people that did just that. It doesn't fix your life. There are also more ways to give to society than merely procreating. Even just having a job is giving to society. Anyone can procreate, I leave that to the people who earnestly want to do that. Know too many shit parents who bumbled into it and did a shit job which comes to no surprise.

    • @yoshiegg6537
      @yoshiegg6537 6 дней назад +1

      people back in the day didn't stop having kids ever, even during wartimes. Nowadays people are very soft and even the prospects of "economic downturn" or "scary environment" are enough to stop people

    • @marccrossland785
      @marccrossland785 6 дней назад

      Is that not defeatist? Plant a seed, water it. We make the world, the world does not make us.

  • @KarlKarsnark
    @KarlKarsnark 6 дней назад +12

    Imagine choosing to dedicate your life to a company that doesn't care about you, rather than to a family that will. Wait until these women are replaced by younger/foreign workers. Then they'll be left with nothing. No job. No husband. No children. No Future.

  • @user-pr8gx3vb9h
    @user-pr8gx3vb9h 7 дней назад +11

    Wages stagnate which is not helpful.

    • @attackxxx
      @attackxxx 6 дней назад

      Wages are going up, but prices are going up faster.

  • @marccrossland785
    @marccrossland785 6 дней назад +5

    Money does not mean much if you have nothing to dedicate it to.

    • @mahakhatib27
      @mahakhatib27 6 дней назад

      Exactly. You get all the cosmetics, clothes, purses, and food that you could ever want. However, you got no one to appreciate and share them with. At the end of the day, it gets stale, and you will want a change in your life.

    • @Ana-jf1ch
      @Ana-jf1ch 6 дней назад +1

      ​@@mahakhatib27 you have friends, and pets, and hobbies! We come to this world alone and we leave alone.

    • @mahakhatib27
      @mahakhatib27 5 дней назад +2

      @@Ana-jf1ch True, we did enter this world alone and we do leave alone. Something to keep in mind, there are some people who leave a legacy and have left behind something, wither that be knowledge, advice, ongoing charity, etc. Those people will be remembered long after they are gone and will have a higher chance of feeling accomplished in life. And there are some people who didn't leave anything behind and who's "friends" have very little to remember you by other than the fact that you have a cat, and you like to play bingo in your spare time. They also tend to leave this world with regret over what they couldn't accomplish and experience. I would rather be of the people who leave something useful behind, but that's just me, I guess.

  • @MusiqueMonsieur
    @MusiqueMonsieur 6 дней назад +27

    Raising a child well would produce 10x the benefit to society compared to what 99% of people could ever hope to achieve working in a career. People need to stop basing their life choices on glamorous TV/movie depictions of "careers".

    • @mark9294
      @mark9294 6 дней назад +3

      I would say it depends on the job and the child

    • @Tom-yj3dw
      @Tom-yj3dw 6 дней назад +2

      Do you base all your important life decisions on if they will be good for "society"?

    • @thathandsomedevil0828
      @thathandsomedevil0828 6 дней назад +4

      ​@@Tom-yj3dwthe Japanese do. We are talking about Japanese society.

  • @EmptyHand49
    @EmptyHand49 6 дней назад +5

    9:14 She makes a good point. Parents can also get help from family members and daycare services to raise their child.

    • @angellightsup1
      @angellightsup1 6 дней назад +1

      That is if they want to or can afford to. I don't know how much it is in Japan but daycare is expensive where I live. Getting help from family and friends only works if they are willing to. The people you would like to depend on may not be able to provide you with that type of assistance. They might have jobs of their own or have plans they aren't willing to cancel. It wouldn't be the first time I've seen a grandparent encourage their kid to have children only to not provide the support they claimed they would.

  • @williamgregory1848
    @williamgregory1848 5 дней назад +2

    A Japanese friend jokingly told me “Soon, there’ll be no need for abortion clinics in Japan because nobody is getting pregnant.”

  • @wirelessdirk
    @wirelessdirk 6 дней назад +15

    Being a father myself i can only say that the good of being a parent far outweighs the bad.

    • @enid9911
      @enid9911 3 дня назад

      Sorry this is coping because you have been tricked by the woman who pretended she was on the pill. In reality it is pointless to have children in our age because we already live in Utopia and can enjoy movies and video games. Children in the past were made because people were bored but that isn't the case anymore. The more enjoyment we have through technology, the less children people have. You child will probably not have children either in the future and you will have raised it for nothing. Might as well have gotten a vasectomy in your twenties. My my...

  • @the_justified
    @the_justified 7 дней назад +62

    I find it alarming the way all these women (japanese and otherwise) refered to having children as more in line with "a duty" or a "burden". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't remember seeing a single one of them mention having children as a good thing, not even a slightly nice event in one's life. It's like if their idea of having children is to become a slave (which it CAN feel like it is BUT SHOULDN'T). I wonder why that is.

    • @akhsanarrazi7825
      @akhsanarrazi7825 7 дней назад +17

      If everyone thinks like that, we would've went extinct many years ago😅

    • @jsoe81657
      @jsoe81657 7 дней назад +27

      If you look at Japanese household culture, most of them have housewives who have to handle all of the daily chores while the husband seldom helps out. Plus, it's not favorable for the woman to have birth while working since they are less likely to have good pay or enough time off to handle the maternity.

    • @sunen7129
      @sunen7129 7 дней назад +16

      Nobito hand picked the women who don't want children. There's plenty of people on both sides but 1 side is more vocal.

    • @gotakazawa408
      @gotakazawa408 7 дней назад +7

      @@sunen7129 I agree. It is true that the birth rate is declining, as shown by statistics. However, I believe Nobito is intentionally creating content with this in mind. He rarely proposes any solutions himself.

    • @sage4293
      @sage4293 7 дней назад

      Women today expect all able bodied males to do everything for them including building and maintaining the society those women benefit from. But yet these same think that they don't have to do a single thing for their male population. They're literally the most entitled group of females that's ever existed. They can honestly go back to living in huts as far as me and many others are concerned. I strongly urge all males to not help females in any way, shape, or form. An example of this would be to do not rush into a burning building or call for help to save the women inside.

  • @hian
    @hian 6 дней назад +6

    At the risk of sounding myopic, I think this is a symptom of post-contracptive modernity in all societies. Evolution didn't make organisms with some complex desire "to have children" as an idea-it produced animals that make children as a byproduct of their drive to have sex. If those same animals can have sex without producing children, but have the brains to consider the pros and cons, the burdens etc of child-rearing, they will often choose not to, or to have less of them later. Hence, human societies that flourish see a natural decline in births.
    That's not to say there aren't many good reasons to have children. It is just to say that, whatever those reasons are, it's not a mystery why those reasons lose out when you've made impotent the primary mechanism by which most children were made historically, namely just as a natural byprodict of libido.
    Now, I think it's good that women aren't pressured to have children and can make an informed decision when it's right for them. However, it's also important not to stigmitize the choice to have children and avoid creating a culture where aspiring parents feel like responsibly raising a child is logistically impossible. And, unfortunately, it looks to me like many nations have veered too far in this direction.
    If modern men and women don't feel confident in their ability to raise a child, we have to take a good and hard look at society and question what we can do to lessen those perceptions and burdens-not because it's anyone's duty to have children, but to allow those who want them the same freedom of choice as those who don't.

    • @daviddavidson1450
      @daviddavidson1450 2 дня назад

      Women do have a duty to have children. This isn't even up for debate. The alternative is extinction. Giving them a choice not to have them is a new experiment and it's looking more and more catastrophic by the year. There will be no more women (or men, but not like that matters) at this rate.

  • @striker7469
    @striker7469 6 дней назад +16

    If the salary raise is shit, that is not happening.

    • @Quinceps
      @Quinceps 6 дней назад +4

      @@striker7469 They’re raising taxes instead, and just to subsidize corporations, not to support people. It all sucks.

    • @striker7469
      @striker7469 6 дней назад

      @@Quinceps Gst 20 percent maximum. Corporate must pay yearly profit maximum 40 percent to the goverment. Those who earned less than 10000 Dollar monthly will be given financial aid. Majority people will be happy with the government. 😁😁

    • @plasticflower
      @plasticflower 6 дней назад +1

      That doesn't have much to do with it. It's about mindset. The poorest countries have high birth rates, not because people can better afford children, but because they probably don't think so much and just live in the moment.
      On the other hand some friend of mine wants children but doesn't make a baby out of fear of not being able to provide financially, even when they have a stable income that would be completely sufficient. As if you had to present your kid a sports car on their 18th birthday or something.

    • @striker7469
      @striker7469 6 дней назад

      @@plasticflower Well. If most of your young people do can afford marriage, then its their choice. No ones to be blame anymore.

  • @ludantikasmith2869
    @ludantikasmith2869 4 дня назад +2

    there are a few women who doesn't want children but typically a woman want children. mass immigration isn't the solution but rather something that'll make sure japan ceases to exist. i'm not sure "just spending more taxes on child care" will solve it either with the ineffeciencies of government and the many different steps involved it may be better to just lower taxes of parents and the "work culture" does appear to need some reform as well.

  • @arreng2364
    @arreng2364 6 дней назад +3

    It's funny how this can be easily fixed by gender role. Let us be realistic, both Japanese men and women are sleep walking through life. They want to focus on their career development but spend their earnings to host/hostess bars. What's up with that? 😂

  • @yoshiegg6537
    @yoshiegg6537 6 дней назад +7

    I don't understand the focus on fertility, this is just a consequence of how things are going. People aren't even dating anymore and are barely leaving their house

  • @rondesu9456
    @rondesu9456 6 дней назад +14

    I think Japan is not the only country suffering an antinatalism movement, although because of the rapid decline in their population, it's quite alarming. In a global scale, pessimism has grown rapidly, and antinatalism movement has grown fast as well, I am theorizing that probably this reaction has brought by globalization, perhaps it had brought positive effect but it also resulted some negative aspect. I am not a woman, but I am an antinatalist, this fear of uncertain future is what I believe causing this antinatalism movement to sprout from the mud, the thoughts that my offspring will suffer the same pain and fear I experience is something that I don't want them to experience, it's my responsibility to save them from this sufferings.

    • @thathandsomedevil0828
      @thathandsomedevil0828 6 дней назад

      Meanwhile supposed sh!t hole Africa don't even have the time to think that way and just have children thereby out breeding Europeans and much of the developed world. I think many people fell victim to propaganda.

    • @enid9911
      @enid9911 3 дня назад

      I think it is just because we have entertainment now. Why have a stupid brat when you can watch netflix and play video games?? Sorry I am just not stupid and that's why I got a vasectomy.

  • @CandiOsaka
    @CandiOsaka 2 дня назад +4

    I grew up in America and i love to have children and they are so precious to have and experience ! I love being a mom and i truly appreciate children and the connection i can experience!! Its beautiful moments in my life ! Im more of a traditional type girl tho

    • @daviddavidson1450
      @daviddavidson1450 2 дня назад +1

      Keep being awesome!

    • @CandiOsaka
      @CandiOsaka 2 дня назад +1

      @@daviddavidson1450 aww youre so kind and thank you for that !!💜💖💗💗✨🎀🍵 you too !

  • @Enemtee
    @Enemtee 7 дней назад +50

    You can't become a good parent until you ARE a parent. Its about growing into the role of a father and mother while you ARE. And most importantly, the base is a good relationship first between the parents. And on the topic of men and women, it should be about both, not only women. And about society, not personal choice. We live to further the human species.

    • @joyhappiness
      @joyhappiness 7 дней назад +18

      Wrong, good parents come from good PEOPLE. you don't learn how to parent while parenting -- if that's the case, is because you completely lack foresight

    • @danieldancer4065
      @danieldancer4065 7 дней назад +6

      Exactly, you won't know until you experience it first hand. But everyone has assumptions

    • @danieldancer4065
      @danieldancer4065 7 дней назад +10

      ​@@joyhappiness parenting is a lifelong learning experience bruh

    • @Enemtee
      @Enemtee 7 дней назад +10

      @@joyhappiness Being a "good" person doesn't make you a good parent, not a chance. Being a good friend, or a good co-worker, doesn't either. Of course moral & ethics affects parenting, but you can't know how to be a good parent without being or becoming one. People are too afraid of becoming parents these days, its depressing. Of course people can have different opinions or perspective on what a good parent is (and how to become one), as long as people strive to do their best and be their best version if themselves.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 7 дней назад +6

      What is a 'good' person. Is it the same as being a patriarch or matriarch.
      I see a lot of weak parenting that is meant to be nice, and a lack of responsibility from parents as much as their children.

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 5 дней назад +6

    They claim to not have money for kids yet they have anough funds to go get completely hammered a couple of times a week. Wow what great priorities

  • @greob
    @greob 5 дней назад +3

    Working hours are still too long, not enough time and energy to raise kids in Japan. Also lack of space, crammed urban cities are part of the problem.

    • @daviddavidson1450
      @daviddavidson1450 2 дня назад

      Aren't there countless akiya in the countryside? Or do you mean lack of space in cities only?

    • @greob
      @greob 2 дня назад

      @@daviddavidson1450 I meant in cities only. In the country side, there's basically nobody but old people at this point...

  • @Mjflight98
    @Mjflight98 7 дней назад +17

    If you wanna make a family you must make sacrifices. And compromise for better or worse in the near future.

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado 6 дней назад +3

    while i agree on their arguments for not wanting to raise kids.
    Having the support from both Government & Work Culture is still a necessary step, & a net positive for most people

  • @perry3770
    @perry3770 7 дней назад +36

    There are no rules in life saying you need to have kids or you need to get married. You do what your situation puts you in. Some people get married and have kids, some people don't want anything to do with it, neither is the right or wrong answer.

    • @michaelbuddy
      @michaelbuddy 6 дней назад +13

      Human flourishing and continuing your lineage is the right answer. Giving life is the right answer. Get your subjecitve bogus marxism out of here.

    • @jsoe81657
      @jsoe81657 6 дней назад

      @michaelbuddy so what happens if resources run out? Your so called thinking of having a population is flawed when we won't last that long if overpopulation flourishes

    • @chrishudson9525
      @chrishudson9525 6 дней назад +4

      ​@@perry3770the children recieve both the man's and woman's DNA. Last names are somewhat superficial by comparison. So yes, the woman too can continue her lineage upon reproducing.

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 6 дней назад +2

      Well a society that doesn’t replace its people somehow will eventually go away.
      So the no kids lifestyle might be “right” for many people now, but if too many ppl do it for a few generations it might not be sustainable on the societal level.

    • @johnmanole4779
      @johnmanole4779 6 дней назад

      ​@@michaelbuddy so f cuking cringe

  • @JosueC730
    @JosueC730 6 дней назад +2

    Hi there Nobita! First of all thank you for all the work you keep doing to keep people informed about Japan.
    2:31 About robots, I remember when I was a kid and even later I liked watching lots of Japanese anime with robots and videogames (and non japanese as well, you know Transformers, Megaman, Robotech, Macross, Patlabor, etc.). The ideal of the Technology companies solving AI and robots to finally get humankind to a better era where people aren't slaves of their jobs was a dream I thought possible, and it seemed that Japanese companies were going to do that. But progress seems to have stagnated. We hear that AI and robots will take people's jobs all the time nowadays with ChatGPT and Boston Dynamics and such, but that doesn't seem to be happening. And it's crucial that it happens, or humankind will never usher a new age. I personally expected something like that. I want to find someone to marry with but I don't want neither to have the burden myself nor to give her the burden of the chores, housekeeping work and such. Who will have it then? I want a maid robot to do that, and it should be affordable, everyone should be able to have one! Modern life demands it, or people wouldn't have time to do anything! Alas, that's not happening yet and we are running out of time. Japan is not the only country facing population peak and collapse, it's even happening in Europe. Spain has fertlility rates similar to those in Japan and Korea!
    2:00 It will be very sad if things end up the way she says and Japan goes exctinct. Immigration will help but won't solve it, more than that must be done.
    2:08 The info that woman has is outdated. Earth is no longer facing overpopulation, the ammount of countries that are still growing is less and less. Who knows how many women in Japan still have that old information in their minds? They need to know this impending crisis is not exclusively Japanese! Who would have thought that Spain would be in an even worse situation than Japan? Do they know that? Spanish is my native languaje (I'm from Latinoamerica), and I see how other factors play a role in their demographical problem, but the 1st thing that is noticeably bad is the economy for them, how the lack of good laws for building houses is crippling them but even worse how those economical problems will go even worse for them, as their elder population will become unsustainable.
    4:09 The childfree movement. It could be a good thing if they were only aiming to give reasonable advice for people in the few countries that are still growing population and overpopulated with young people, (India, most African countries). Women's choice to not have children or to delay having them wouldn't harm themselves that much if it's people from such countries. However that just can't be said about countries with aging population and even inverted demographic pyramids. The rest of society depends on you not only to do chores such as contributing with a job or paying taxes, but also to leave a legacy, because we humans don't live forever, thus we naturally have offspring.
    6:34 But currently society itself has raised the bar so high (life standards, etc) that both women and men standards are too high as well! So, the underlying problem that is causing that also needs to be adressed. This points back to the beginning of my comment: Robots. Humankind needs to solve the AI and labor problem to survive, or we will reach peak population and tech improvements will become too hard to keep. If we think in the scale of milennia, several civilizations have existed on Earth. Many of them are gone by now. If we ask the people in Egypt how the pyramids were built, they don't know exacttly how their ancestors did it, all they have is the answers current scientifical research has, that's all they have. Similar thing about Rome and ancient Roman Empire, they are rediscovering some of their old tech. What about Mexico and ancient Mayan Pyramids there? Some civilizations went exctinct and left very little clues on whatt could have happened to them and what wrought their demise! We can't just take civilization for granted! What's the great filter? What if this is what prevents humankind from surviving beyond our Solar system? It's critical that humankind becomes multiplanetary as well, as in the scale of the cosmic order we are just a tiny candle in the vastness of the universe. We may be the only sentient civilization in this galaxy, and since distances are so great in the universe, we may never meet other civilizations, specially if we don't pass the great filter.

  • @charleskuhns6042
    @charleskuhns6042 2 дня назад +2

    It also has to do with density of population. Subconsciously animals decide to not reproduce like rabbits when their population is overflowing and condensed. See Mice Society Experiments.

    • @charleskuhns6042
      @charleskuhns6042 2 дня назад

      I’d also like to add that now that “the cats out of the bag” so to speak, women entering the workforce has hindered other women trying to have the “stay at home mom” life. You can’t double the workforce and then expect wages to stay the same. Now you need to find a man that makes a crap ton of money if you want to have that kind of life or else you’re not living as well as double income households.

  • @KnightSoulsG
    @KnightSoulsG 7 дней назад +23

    Work career culture

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX 6 дней назад +1

      Ikt in Japan is crazy 😢 n sad

    • @KnightSoulsG
      @KnightSoulsG 6 дней назад

      @@MrWescottX different priorities that's all

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX 6 дней назад

      @@KnightSoulsG I guess so in mankind

    • @yoshiegg6537
      @yoshiegg6537 6 дней назад

      no thailand has the similair issues and they have no work career culture, young people just aren't investing long term anymore

  • @sorchamusic
    @sorchamusic 2 дня назад +1

    I think it’s daunting for women to want kids, let alone have them in Japan. Forking out money is a weak solution. Climate change, economic stagnation, lack of balanced parenting, crazy school/work schedules etc I’m really not surprised that women of childbearing age here are exploring their own potential as people and not just breeders

  • @biobusiness244
    @biobusiness244 7 дней назад +25

    While I have heard a lot about women trying to convince other women, I have not heard the men being supportive of their women becoming mothers, and it ties back to wages and sharing the family and home responsibility more evenly since both parents will be working.

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 6 дней назад +2

      When both are working it should be even also both need to have their personal time also if a women a house wife that is not a escuse for men to leave everything to them or be incompetent with laundry or dishes they should know how to do it sine their an adult and help the wife out form time to time anf house work truley never end when their kids around

  • @Ray-mo6ke
    @Ray-mo6ke 7 дней назад +36

    Women are changing drastically, society will either ignore or help them.. Society already has abandoned men at least in the west. LIFE is a beautiful struggle.

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX 7 дней назад +7

      Indeed. In West n East
      USA 🇺🇸 n Japan 🇯🇵

    • @USSAnimeNCC-
      @USSAnimeNCC- 7 дней назад +8

      Nobody abandoned men west except crappy ones I'm sorry but nobody wantbto waste their time on a andrew tate wanna be
      The problem is that some men dont get good advice form other men

    • @attackxxx
      @attackxxx 6 дней назад

      @@USSAnimeNCC- I disagree, Men have nothing, just ugly looks and shitty job. And by society they are not even allowed to enjoy nice things. "oh look at this grown up man bla bla"

    • @chrishudson9525
      @chrishudson9525 6 дней назад +5

      ​@@USSAnimeNCC- please, talk more about what you don't know...

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero 6 дней назад +8

      @@USSAnimeNCC-this is colossal levels of delusion

  • @JB-gj8pu
    @JB-gj8pu 5 дней назад +1

    Women living in overcrowded environments have fewer kids. Yet young women want to live in overcrowded cities because there are more opportunities there.
    The Japanese government needs to fix overcrowding in it's cities while providing better opportunities for it's people. This may mean increasing taxes on dense urban areas while subsidizing less dense areas.

  • @xXSpaceMexicanXx
    @xXSpaceMexicanXx 7 дней назад +22

    When it comes to child rearing this one saying has always been true, "it takes a village to raise a child"

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero 7 дней назад

      This attitude is half the problem. The bigger the welfare state the less sustainable the system is. The is replicable globally with all western nations having negative native fertility. Its reality is the exact opposite.
      Even if this were true that would just end up further increasing the single mother rate. Single mother households by far have the worst child outcomes. Most obvious in such stats as criminality.

    • @Kaizoushin
      @Kaizoushin 7 дней назад +2

      But I hardly see that here in urban Japan. I think in rural areas, it's a lot more common/accepted.

    • @sboinkthelegday3892
      @sboinkthelegday3892 6 дней назад +5

      And a man has to pay for it all, starting with daycare. So a woman isn't burdened by having to boot camp her own child and learn the skills of a drill sargeant she could later use to start a business.
      Is it any wonder that ages 18-36 men apply themselves and are ready to fund a child. But at that point a woman wants to be that 18yo child, and didn't want to live her own life ALONGSIDE the same-aged man.
      18yo man is drafted while an 18yo woman finds it unacceptable to be bossed around by babies in diapers. And which one learns the skills to gain respect through bossing around the younger generation? The woman in party school or a man doing long nights in post-doc?

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero 6 дней назад

      Wow - Seems my last message got auto-deleted?
      This sentiment is empirically and observably backwards. In fact it is GLOBALLY REPLICABLE.
      There is no western style welfare state that has positive native fertility. And even if it did work you would just create a massive influx of single mothers. Single mothers empirically have the worst child outcomes - Most obviously in criminality - So that creates even more problems even if one ignores the inherent contradiction of expanding the welfare state to finance the unsustainable costs of the welfare state.

    • @IlluminaZero
      @IlluminaZero 6 дней назад

      Wow RUclips deleting my comment 2 times - Still getting notifications on replies to thread.
      Put even more simply - The opposite is empirically true globally. All western style welfare states have negative native fertility. The more “the village” gets involved the worse it becomes.

  • @Zero-ft3sf
    @Zero-ft3sf 6 дней назад +3

    the generation that used to make a lot of kids per one family is gone now. most people who is able to get married have up to 3 kids and that group is like 50% or less in most countries now because cost of living. times have changed a lot and honestly i think earth is overpopulated by now :/

    • @daviddavidson1450
      @daviddavidson1450 2 дня назад

      Please take a moment to look up a map that shows human population spread vs empty available (livable) landmass. We're a few blips on the earth, we barely register as existing.

  • @skyrimwarrior
    @skyrimwarrior 3 дня назад +1

    not just Japan, the whole world is not having families.
    i am one of them, it's the economy and the super large price tag of raising a family in this world. it's too expensive.
    it's not Japans fault, it's the cost of living.

    • @daviddavidson1450
      @daviddavidson1450 2 дня назад

      How are people in poor nations having so many children if it's too expensive? Shouldn't they have even less than wealthy nations?

  • @alexandremartin9278
    @alexandremartin9278 6 дней назад +7

    Just because of how biology, evolution and instincts work based on stimuli, most of them are focused on very basic things:
    1. Create pair-bonds
    2. Do the thing that creates babies
    3. If baby is born, do the thing that nurtures them.
    A "wanting a baby" instinct is higher concept.
    The fact is that for all of humanity's history until very recently, "wanting a child" had never been the deciding factor as to whether one had a child or not, and our instincts reflect that.
    We are finding out that when that becomes the only factor, it might not be enough.
    I think that some who do not particularly want a child might in fact find that they find the experience very fulfilling and rewarding were they ever to get one... But they will probably never know.
    And that's just (one of the) biological aspect.
    Not if we get into societal issues and factors....

    • @FenrirRobu
      @FenrirRobu 6 дней назад

      Ancient Romans had contraceptives.

    • @alexandremartin9278
      @alexandremartin9278 5 дней назад

      @@FenrirRobu
      Good point!
      They sure did.
      However:
      1. This is still considered "very recently" in evolutionary terms.
      2. These methods were easily not available to everyone all the time
      3. Rome is just one country(empire). most other parts of the world at that time also only had only limited access to contraception with varying degrees of effectiveness, not effective or widespread or over a large enough period of time that humans would have evolved in accordance.

  • @boneyboney3575
    @boneyboney3575 5 дней назад +4

    the great replacement is real.

  • @davidnguyen3469
    @davidnguyen3469 6 дней назад +5

    The sad thing is, you can't go back on the child free life. Once you realize you actually want children, by that time, it's more often than not too late.
    There's only like 15 years once you hit 20 that you can reasonably have kids. Any later than that, and once the kid grows to 20 yo, they'll have 60 yo parents to take care of.

  • @jaymanilla289
    @jaymanilla289 5 дней назад +1

    the Japanese women that have no desire to have kids or get married have never been in a loving relationship with a man. so sad.

  • @Aspiepilled
    @Aspiepilled 5 дней назад +2

    Japan as its known will die just by basic maths and projections, immigrants can change japan but not persevere it

    • @kattor8
      @kattor8 3 дня назад +1

      “Japan” has died many times in its history, The original ways and culture of the Ainu died when the new “immigrants” came…and since then “Japan” has gone through many changes/eras in its history to today. Nothing remains the same……ever.

  • @user-do6dl5gh1z
    @user-do6dl5gh1z 2 дня назад +1

    We need to make a societal decision. Are we living to make up some imaginary numbers and to be replaced by robots to achieve even larger numbers.
    Or are we living for people and our society survival.

  • @rylansato
    @rylansato 5 дней назад +1

    If you want to increase the birth rate then stop with the work first mentality.

  • @TrytheGreenOne
    @TrytheGreenOne 6 дней назад +12

    Proposing making babies as a way to access "self improvement" is ludicrous. I have too many friends with shit parents who just became shittier as parents. Babies doesn't fix you. Just screws up brand new people.

  • @tandysaysyoucandoanything6758
    @tandysaysyoucandoanything6758 6 дней назад +7

    As a western women who plans to have a child once im financially stable, don’t idolize our choices. We are not taught half the things Japanese girls are taught. We have no skills generally so of course we wouldn’t want the extra responsibility. Getting pregnant and motherhood is a beautiful thing but having the choice as a women is equally important. Until governments start respecting women and their struggles, women should confidently wield whatever power they have.

  • @neveronhereXD
    @neveronhereXD 6 дней назад +1

    The woman envying her childless friends, I'm over here yearning to get married and have kids. I may have less time to myself, but it's easy to underestimate just how much of a blessing family is.

  • @autumnislovely
    @autumnislovely 2 дня назад +1

    I think women need hope and security to truly want more children. I personally think I can securely have one child, but I worry about how his/her future would look like. Will the job market be just as bad or worse as it is now? Will they end up feeling hopeless and wonder if life is worth living?

  • @armorbearer9702
    @armorbearer9702 6 дней назад +1

    (6:40) How have these standards increased? Does anyone know what are the new standards or how have the standards increased for Japanese women?

  • @mrawwwh899
    @mrawwwh899 6 дней назад +15

    I know a woman who is married and had 2 kids not because she wanted to, but out of obligation to Japan and her family. She is the most miserable person I know and she's pretty sure her husband is cheating on her and she doesn't love her kids. I really hope when her kids become adults, they reciprocate by taking care of her with the same feeling of obligation she had when she had them. Too many people nowadays don't take care of their elderly parents because they don't want to.

    • @moastray5093
      @moastray5093 6 дней назад +2

      or because they cant... the economy is rough now days and a lot of peapole cant even suport themselves, let alone others

    • @sonicleaves
      @sonicleaves 6 дней назад +1

      Why in the world would her kids want to take care of a "mother" that never loved them? That's disgusting and if these kids are smart and move away and never speak to her again. Why is it their fault they were born? What a despicable woman.

    • @mrawwwh899
      @mrawwwh899 6 дней назад +4

      @@sonicleaves True, I get your point. That's the folly of pressuring someone to have kids out of obligation. The incentive/payback in the end is very low in my opinion. Plus I should clarify that she doesn't abuse them or treat them like crap in any way. They want for almost nothing except emotional closeness.

    • @spaceowl5957
      @spaceowl5957 6 дней назад

      Maybe she can’t provide emotional closeness bc of the way she grew up and the kids also can’t get emotional closeness and guidance from elsewhere because they’re not close to older siblings, cousins, neighbors, aunts, etc. So they emotionally wilt away.
      That’s how my childhood was I think

    • @mrawwwh899
      @mrawwwh899 6 дней назад +1

      @@spaceowl5957 Sorry to hear that. I grew up that way too. It's common in Asian households, the older generation at least from what I hear.

  • @vorynrosethorn903
    @vorynrosethorn903 7 дней назад +19

    It is ultimately cultural, it is about the values people hold, liberal individualism is sterile while the more traditional dogmas like Confucianism and Christianity are intensely pro-natal as traditions which aren't died quickly just as liberal society is dying. It ends up that welfare will not fill in what has become morally degraded and economically inconvenient.
    The state wants to have its cake and eat it too, they want thriving families, but each member of said family to be the private serf of a corporation for the sake of the precious GDP. Thus they talk about giving women money to not see their children rather than questioning if increasing women's work hours is a good solution to an aging population.

    • @joyhappiness
      @joyhappiness 7 дней назад

      Christianity is anti-natal, only Islam is truly pro-natal.

    • @attackxxx
      @attackxxx 6 дней назад

      Japan is most certainly not morally degraded. It is leader in morals and lack of bad people.

  • @kyopo18
    @kyopo18 6 дней назад +2

    Nobita san solchiki, hontoni, seeing my Japanese sister suffer with a personal dilemma of wanting a baby while struggling with feelings of being unloved and battling internal lonliness with decisions that end up hurting herself more. It really bothers me but perhaps I am too hyper sensitive and analytical. Maybe there is something ah noh wrong with what I can see and hear? Ganbatte to my sister. Please don't cry Onegaishimasu. 🌹(ㅠㅅㅠ; )

    • @Cozy-gz6ou
      @Cozy-gz6ou 6 дней назад +1

      The only way to find love is to get out of your main environment and go to somewhere else, like the Philippines, Malaysia or Indonesia where they value family in general. Maybe that will help with loneliness.

  • @tokyobrwn
    @tokyobrwn 7 дней назад +27

    The more non religious a society becomes the less emphasis there is to have children.

    • @MrWescottX
      @MrWescottX 7 дней назад

      Ikr.

    • @jsoe81657
      @jsoe81657 7 дней назад +7

      It barely has to deal with religion than it does with cost of living. You look at places like California and the cost of even owning a home is out of reach for many people.

    • @tokyobrwn
      @tokyobrwn 7 дней назад +2

      @@jsoe81657 Barely? You're sadly mistaken. The rabbit hole goes deep and you might not wanna go that far. I already connected the dots and what I'm saying it true. You're looking at the present day affects of something that started 65 years ago. The decline of religion was attached to many things on the front and the back end. It isn't the only cause but there is a definite correlation between the low birth rate and the decline of religious society. Look it up.

    • @jsoe81657
      @jsoe81657 7 дней назад

      ​@@tokyobrwnah yes. Religion is the source of all problems then. If that was the case, you probably had no problems with Hitler persecuting the Jews or the Christian crusades against Muslims. You people are a joke

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 6 дней назад

      iran and india are now having the same issues

  • @gieanmossmann3942
    @gieanmossmann3942 5 дней назад +2

    First world problems😅

  • @jaymanilla289
    @jaymanilla289 5 дней назад

    there's no stigma or pressure to have kids. no one is going around discouraging people from having kids. delusional to think there is.

  • @georgew8586
    @georgew8586 3 дня назад

    This not just an issue in Japan, South Korea birth rate is even lower. Even China is seeing similar issue. The cost of living in a decent area most anywhere in the world today is expensive. It takes 2 incomes to survive moderately. This affects a couple’s ability or desire to have children.

  • @Eline_Meijer
    @Eline_Meijer 3 дня назад +1

    All i see is a society that lost its men.

  • @Uchidaful
    @Uchidaful 6 дней назад +1

    5:12 like a kid, dafuq

  • @-TriP-
    @-TriP- 6 дней назад +9

    What these "child-free" advocates are not considering when they say "we have too many people already" is that if the population replacement rate of birth is not attained it has a disastrous impact on the economy as the ratio of elderly/retired people increases. Who do they think pays for them?

  • @thdotaku
    @thdotaku 5 дней назад

    with those faces i wouldnt have to have kids too

  • @soyosugawara2658
    @soyosugawara2658 5 дней назад +1

    They no longer not good.

  • @angellightsup1
    @angellightsup1 6 дней назад +4

    I'm child-free. It wasn't a matter of whether I could afford it or if I thought I was good enough; it was a matter of do I want to. Do I want to be a mother? Do I want to be responsible for another person? I could never pop out a kid just because the population is declining. Kids deserve to be wanted, I'm sure someone else is willing to do it. I'm not committed and I'm not willing.

    • @kikyamart8749
      @kikyamart8749 5 дней назад

      good, child free people are the genetic trash that takes itself out... no one needs that level of selfishness in the world...

  • @jonnil1992
    @jonnil1992 6 дней назад +1

    Chiaki is a keeper for sure.

  • @ConnortheCanaanite
    @ConnortheCanaanite 6 дней назад +5

    The common factor between Japan and the West is aspects of feminism, or women being required to take part in the workforce. As this inevitably means that women will be taking jobs and the economy then becomes predicated on having as large of this workforce as possible, whilst also cutting wages. More workers, always equals cheaper labor.
    Say for example, there is a city of 5,000 people and in that city there are only three carpenters, they have quite a bit of business and only so few competitors, so people might be willing to pay them more to prioritize their business over others. They’ll also receive more money just from the sheer volume of clients.
    This isn’t even counting the social and societal implication that are involved when it comes to women in the workplace. Wherein, these jobs will stress women out, take away quite a lot of their free time, they’ll have to adapt to the masculine world of work and see that men are their competitors in the workplace.
    It was one thing when a woman here or there wanted to work in some way, or helped her family with their workloads, like when farming…
    However, today it’s practically a requirement for these women to work, thus, taking away a large portion of the possibility to make time to raise a child or even earn enough money to make them feel comfortable in doing so.
    This is essentially like making a sacrifice. The question being; would you be willing to live roughly and struggle for at least several years, in exchange for a child?
    Then, similarly to the west, the Japanese government is beginning to usher in the solution of mass migration and foreign workers, possibly even trying to replace the birthrate by making it up with foreign groups instead. In the case of the West, these foreign groups go to places like Europe and a vast quantity of them don’t ever actually work, the government ends up spending taxpayer money to actually fund their lives. Then these groups can just eat, sleep and mate with one another, or your own people, whilst swathes of them run around committing unspeakable acts of crime. Then if you try to say something against this, they’ll call you an _”-ist or -phobic”_ .
    They’ll essentially say you’re a bigot, as if that’s actual criticism and not some bad faith attempt as manipulation.
    I’ve always been certain that eventually Japan would be subjected to the same actions as the West is today.
    Before you know it, Tokyo is majority non-Japanese, all your advertisements are full of such diversity and show Japanese women with these “immigrants” from Africa or Islamic countries.
    Then every facet of media in Japan will be covered with censorship, everything will seek to constantly shame ethnic-Japanese men, portraying every Japanese man as a bumbling fool, foreigners serving in public offices and shaming ethnic-Japanese for making up the majority of Japan. Meanwhile, those criminals of a foreign stock will run around rampant, robbing, “graping” and “perishing” men, women and children alike and then it’ll be covered up or lied about.
    That’s how it’s all happened in the West at least. Why wouldn’t they try the same with Japan, being a fellow to the Axis powers and all…
    They’ll attempt to use events from Japan’s past as an excuse for their harsh treatment of you and attempt to weaponize feelings of guilt and shame. Thankfully, Japan and Japanese tend to keep those pasts hidden and unspoken of, which can be advantage, a great advantage.
    In the West, they’ll use events from 200 years ago, or more and they’ll even lie about them and misconstrue them.
    One of the faults of the West is, I believe, is a pervasive guilt complex, which I believe is due to things such as Christianity, as the modern politics that use this guilt as a weapon, are essentially a malformed version of Christianity.
    Another aspect of how the modern West was formed, is through the women, they tend to vote based more on an emotional plea and are much easier to manipulate via that avenue.
    These political parties and modern ideologies, of which we refer to it as “Intersectionalism”, essentially use the same tactics as a man cheating on his girlfriend or subjecting her to a torrent of his physical wrath.
    These groups will implant these women with these mindsets, then use it to their will to essentially have the women lead the entire country down a path of total nihilism and masochism. In the West, it’s to a point where these women are basically protecting their own abuser and actively exalt and praise the destruction of the entire country.
    Therefore, given that this is all an intentional practice; does this not mean that it qualifies as a genocide?
    For those familiar, this is something akin to John Paul’s ‘Grammar of Genocide’(Genocidal Organ by Project Itou), a well-formed, practically scientific method for ushering in the destruction of countries.
    In the West, we have a very particular group of people, one which is not technically European or of European stock, yet, has found themselves constantly attempting to live amongst Europeans. This particular group, has had a lot of conflicts with different European countries and groups, yet, they’ve still constantly tried to live near Europeans. This particular group, has also changed their own surnames, identities, faked what religion they follow and even attempted to mate with Europeans to blend in better. This particular group, does indeed have a distinct appearance, but face blindness is quite real to the uninitiated.
    This particular group has held a deep harbored resentment of Europeans and has constantly attempting to take over various important facets of society, then use their power, wealth and influence to cause wars, various conflicts, civil wars or even usher in the very same issues that I’ve stated before this.
    I recall the Japanese PM, saying something along the lines of how much he desired to bring more BlackRock funding into Japan, however, this funding comes with a price. The CEO/Chairman of BlackRock is Larry Fink and he stated that BlackRock funding and their “ESG/DEI/BRIDGE” policies for being funded, were meant as a way to force behaviors and societal changes on everyday people, across the entire country.
    Remember that particular group I was speaking on earlier? He’s one of them…
    Imagine for a second, that a Chinaman were to identity himself as Japanese and change his name to a Japanese name, and then began to commit a series of heinous crimes and then it were to all be blamed on Japanese people as a whole.
    Well this process, is essentially what has and still is happening unto Europeans. This even happens in other ways in the U.S, for example, a criminal who is not European at all in ancestry or perhaps is mixed will be put down as European or “White”, as a way to slander Europeans descended peoples.
    Colloquially, at least in the U.S, “white” is a very subjective term, by the U.S census standards, anyone from Europe, Middle-East or North Africa but this doesn’t mean that definition is the same opinion as society as a whole. Usually, in a social sense, people only ever really see Europeans or European stocked people as being “White”, though, it does depend on the definition. However, on a societal level, most Europeans see the term “white” as being exclusive to other Europeans or European stocked people.
    Although, I’ve seen cases of Japanese considering some of their own skin tones as “white” or at least, “fair” or “pale”.
    However, considering MENA people and cultures to be grouped into the same category of Europeans is absurd, as many MENA groups are varying shades, similar to Hispanics for example.
    Thus, this is done in a way where, if people from these groups commit a crime, they’ll be able to label them as white and thus, create the belief that it’s a European or European stocked people whom is committing such a crime.
    Now imagine, that China were to control the Japanese government, most especially, through finance, influence and media/entertainment. Then the Japanese government, under the influence of the Chinese government, decides to invade several countries and establish (conveniently) more Chinese influence and power in those invaded regions. It’s akin to someone using children they’ve brainwashed as soldiers and then having them take the blame when they get caught. Then if that weren’t enough, they’d be taking vast quantities of the money you were earning and using it for their own means.
    When people often think of brainwashing, they think of countries like North Korea, however, the West has its own ways for brainwashing. By the way, it was actually made legal to brainwash American citizens (for the second time I believe) around 2008; which made propaganda that’s aimed at U.S citizens, legal.
    This reality could still occur in Japan, so this is why I attempt to inform Japanese and grant them this advice _“Be weary of what you consume, be it reading, movies, TV, news or the words of politicians. In a war of information and propaganda, you can’t trust anything.”_

  • @user-ek1pe8ft6p
    @user-ek1pe8ft6p 7 дней назад +2

    i remember when you had less than 1000 suscribers.
    Thank you for continuing your work.

  • @Belihoney
    @Belihoney 5 дней назад

    If I brought kids into the world where I wasn’t at least very comfortable, I would feel so guilty it would kill me

  • @find2hard
    @find2hard 5 дней назад

    Deskslave propaganda worked a little too well.

  • @moarminerals
    @moarminerals 6 дней назад +4

    Because raising kids is a pain in the ass. The fact that you do not have to do it anymore is as good a reason for most.

    • @SystemBD
      @SystemBD 6 дней назад +1

      It requires work, but a "pain in the ass"? Only if you are also working overtime like the Japanese.

    • @mahakhatib27
      @mahakhatib27 6 дней назад

      You were a pain in the but at one point too. With patience and love, you can nurture something more beautiful than yourself. If only people saw the bigger picture.

  • @fatnabs
    @fatnabs 6 дней назад +5

    Very interesting that most places that have declininf birth rates also host american military bases

    • @fatnabs
      @fatnabs 6 дней назад +1

      Also let's mention giving child birth now is a lot easier with all the medical advances we have now yet it's still harder than it was 100 years ago when woman were having multiple kids

    • @fatnabs
      @fatnabs 6 дней назад +1

      Another point brought up is getting outside help from parents, friends, family but you're going to have fewer of those in the future since they're going to be less people overall.

    • @fatnabs
      @fatnabs 6 дней назад

      All in all I think this is a good video to watch not only for the jp perspective but because that perspective is valid in other countries with declining birth rates

  • @Quinceps
    @Quinceps 7 дней назад +12

    Why do you frame this as a matter of choice? Japanese people are slowly (?)
    getting to the point where they can barely pay their rent. Transportation is expensive, schooling is expensive, etc. And wages are worth less and less in this stagnant default economy (30 years like that). And don’t come here with your Tokyo-centric or urban-centric fallacies and fantasies. Just bring in all those very important foreign workers who will save this economy and make a few already-here foreigners feel “less exclusive”.

    • @Laoriginal718
      @Laoriginal718 7 дней назад +7

      Being childfree is a choice.

    • @vorynrosethorn903
      @vorynrosethorn903 7 дней назад +1

      Rents in Japan are way better than basically anywhere in the western world, outside of the cities housing is outright affordable, it is a place that young people could buy a house in, something that young people here would literally be willing to fight a war for.

    • @Quinceps
      @Quinceps 7 дней назад +4

      @@Laoriginal718 What do you mean? People are “choosing” this in Japan mainly because it’s too expensive for them to be able to keep decent savings, etc. How’s that really an option?

    • @jsoe81657
      @jsoe81657 7 дней назад +6

      ​@vorynrosethorn903 the problem with your point is that most jobs are located in the cities and not in the countryside. Sure you can have a house outside of the city but I doubt most are willing to spend 2 plus hours for commute.

    • @belstar1128
      @belstar1128 6 дней назад

      tell that to people in central African republic

  • @malkontentniepoprawny6885
    @malkontentniepoprawny6885 6 дней назад +10

    The desire to have children results from a natural human instinct, every person wants to have children at some stage of life, even those who claim otherwise. I think that the environment in which we live may influence decision not to have children and, more often, failures in life.

  • @dafnebolson
    @dafnebolson 3 дня назад

    Every argument reduced to money and expectations like having a baby is a work. So, you have free hours, recognition, promotion, things like that.
    But no one talked about love. Do you love your partner? Do you love your kid?
    It's easy to say the guilt is on the westernization of japanese womans.
    Instead of change one by one your society to make it better for you rearing a child, just give up and don't have any because of "social preassure".
    Why to trust in two politician without childs? Again they put money as the only motivation. When the real problem is why the couples don't love each other, why if you can abort, k1ll your own son? Because you didn't love your own kid.

  • @Momo-qo7is
    @Momo-qo7is 7 дней назад +13

    Japanese society still discriminates against single mothers who raise their kids alone. The support they get from the society and places they work for is very limited and stigmatised. How can women make sure that they are not going to get divorced and raise their kids alone? Do they have to just be tolerated by any forms of unhappiness in their households?
    This reason is in addition to the economic difficulties and weakened 円.
    By the way the society does not appreciate women who are single and career-focused. The career paths for women in Japan and Tokyo are limited. Child-free women who want to focus on their career progression are not the majority of the cases in Tokyo.
    Higher standards for men make sense in Japan because they need financial support after marriage. Being a housewife is a job in Japan. It is pretty much like choosing the lifetime company to work for.

    • @JohnDoe-pt7ru
      @JohnDoe-pt7ru 6 дней назад

      Then don't be a single mother. Stop opening your legs for men who won't be there to raise the child. It's actually not difficult.

  • @BebopBandicoot777
    @BebopBandicoot777 6 дней назад +6

    Welcome to modernity, enjoy the decline everybody.🔥💀#BlackPillsForAll

  • @nogi48
    @nogi48 5 дней назад

    If they get influenced by other society's its going to make things worst because just at them, It's the same problem.

  • @ekurisona663
    @ekurisona663 7 дней назад +1

    all according to plan

  • @zurc_bot
    @zurc_bot 6 дней назад

    I just watched a video of a mangaka power couple (HxH and Sailormoon) about how they got married, . The guy had a strange view of women and marriage.

  • @Collector_Phil
    @Collector_Phil 6 дней назад +2

    I’ve lived in Tokyo for 15 years, originally from Canada, and all these points are straight FACTS
    Good Job Nobita, I’ve been a listener since 2015-16

  • @Queltamas
    @Queltamas 6 дней назад +8

    Meanwhile in Europe you've got mass immigration and they are having an insane amount of children. All the while not working or contributing to society but getting paid just for being there and having more children. Eventually they become and majority and things like what happened in the UK will continue to happen elsewhere as well.

  • @Uchidaful
    @Uchidaful 6 дней назад

    4 kids is good