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@@whaterverman479 The games original selling point was “fully voice acted” and now they are making content that is not “fully voice acted” so therefore, it’s more than reasonable for people to criticise it in that way. “It’s not replacing voice acted content” well I’m pretty sure this *could have* been voice acted, but isn’t. Always open your mind to EVERY perspective of the argument if you seek to understand it.
@@swcentral Well, look at their perspective then. Broadsword does the updates for the game, but they don't have the same resources bioware had for VA. Comlinks are a good addition to the game and I hope they do keep the voice acting for the main story bits going forward, the side stuff doesn't need to be VA.
We've had the Emperor die, and come back, die and come back. We've had Revan, die and come back, die and come back. Now it's Malgus, dying and coming back, dying and coming back. I don't want to spoil things, but once this is done, I have a feeling where the next story might go.
I'm really starting to hate Malgus at this point even though I have the newest released figure of him and some pics of him upon my walls. Just wish they'd either kill him off already (the guy's in his 80s already anyways so....), make him say that he's sorry for everything he's ever done to harm the sith empire or turn him into a light side/grey Jedi character aka have him redeem himself completely.
The fact that they're going heavier on graphics upgrades tells me they are they have longer term plans for this game, because if not there would be no reason at all to go through with something like that.
I haven't played in quite some time, but the character model updates are long overdue. It was always kind of jarring seeing this really detailed npc and then having the camera pan to my character's weirdly smooth clay-like face. So yeah, that's a welcome change imo.
@@mikeity2009 When I first saw the theatrical trailers, I thought the game was going to look 'that' good. HUGE disappointment :( The story made up for it. At least it did till they started with the Mandalorian ark.
@@TechnoDelta a photo-realistic swtor would require swtor to be moved onto a more powerful game engine and losing some swtor fans who only have a low-powered pc/laptop to play on though. It would be great if a photo realistic swtor existed, still
Swtor having a story delay after they stated that they would be reducing the amount of voice acted scenes is very worrying. Delays in the past usually meant that additional time was needed to polish and fix things. However lately delays in games have caused gamers to wonder if priorities are being properly planned out.
swtor won't be the same without the voice acted scenes, though here i see two possibilities: 1- they remove the voice acted scenes and replace them with KOTOR style cinematics 2- they keep doing voice acted scenes but due to lack of personnel story-related updates would be delayed
I liked swtor BECAUSE of the voice acting. I trudge through the fighting, just to experience the story. Haven't played for a couple years. Doesn't sound like I've missed much.
Bioware Killed off most of their development team when Anthem became a thing. That is why we stopped getting weekly and monthly updates in like 4.0-5.0 timeframe. An they never recovered. Broadsword inherited the mess that Bioware Executives left them, and they kept most of the staff on board, and they're pushing content out that is millions of times better than what they did in the last 4 years at Bioware. As a responsible adult, I personally feel, that Legacy of the Sith should not be used to judge Broadsword. I will Judge broadsword once they complete a full expansion that wasn't started under a different executive team. Also, they fired the Story Lead, or he quit. Based on the language used I personally feel he was forced to resign, and after the backlash of the Malgus line, it was honestly for the best. The story is not creative or engaging anymore, which was SWTORS biggest pull. A WoW clone of our favorite universe with AMAZING STORY.... Oh well, I'm gonna keep laughing from the sidelines at how horribly mismanged this shit is. Also, them trying to make us pay money for a sub just to keep our character names? Crazy... Also, not worth it. All in all, I have serious speculations of Broadsword can even hold on that long before the IP actually gets shut down. Outlaws performed terribly, and the Star Wars IP is crazy danger right now of being shut down for any new content for awhile on any of the Star Wars IPs..... Go woke and go broke!! 8=========D~~~~
So we know that pre alpha the intent was to get companions to ride in the second seat of speeders that had them but that was never completed... Kind of crazy that it makes it in 13 years later
lets be honest folks the game is on life support just like the star wars IP. maybe once disney and lucasfilm figure out what they actually want to do with it and end all this floundering the game might see some extra support but that is unlikely. i would not be surprised if the game is sunsetted within the next 2 years
what i dont get is , and this is a big one , why the fu.. they dont give us the option to replay the class story and the other expansion chapters after we finished them like with the immortal empire chapters, i hate the fact that if i want to replay a class`s story or one of the other expansions to make different choices i got to make a new character
I'd have to do some digging, and I don't know if it is still up since Bioware released that news, but they have stated that based how the old base game is coded, thats why they've had issues doing anything with it. Something about having to rewrite everything and they'd basically have to rebuild it. But they went to 64bit, so I don't understand, because they basically had to do that already. So doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm also not a developer working for Bioware or Broadsword. Nor would I ever work for anything EA related. LMFAO
While I agree with this, I'd rather create 30 Jedi Guardians and replay everything with them just ffs give us GOOD stories. If need be, go back and retcon some of it - just do something good, for heaven's sake. I have like 100 ideas how to do that and while I am definitely not a genius, I'm pretty sure most of the SWTOR community would prefer like 90% of my ideas to those of BioBroadmalfunction. It's a laugh.
I really hope they don't get rid of a voice acted protagonist, it helps me feel more attached to the character because I can hear their emotion etc etc. Also as much as I like the new characters, I really do miss the original companions from the base game. I hope they include more of them in the story eventually like KOTFE and KOTET 😭😭
@@vodkavonblyat433mood I think they need to hire new writer’s personally like I want all the characters to have a fair chance to interact with the player especially whoever we romance
@@ladyice-6 I agree I was disappointed when they showed comps coming, I was excited for Rass and Jekiah. I wish that Lana wasn’t the only LI comp coming in the patch. I mean I like Lana but I miss the other LI comps to.
@@Mr.Curious364 I am getting tired of the whole dicking around the galaxy with Lana fighting Malgus and Mandos like come on how hard is it to have a classic Imps vs Republic where you the player have to solve this planetary conflict out and this situation is/was affected by your past choices.
@@DarthBarasthethicc I know, I miss it to. Although usually when I mention it, all I hear is, “the devs are small staffed and don’t have the resources for that.” Although I also miss imp vs pub. I mean if you (the writing dev team) can’t do class stories anymore. Can you at least go back to imp vs pub, or give us 2 separate stories because forcing tech users and force users together, is a bad combo. It was stupid when they did it in kotfe and stupid now.
I cant be alone in not thinking Malgus is a good or intimidating villain, i feel like your own character is simply stronger than malgus already and he needs a bunch of extra things to actually be a threat
Man it’s been years since this mandalorian civil war started.i just wish they could wrap up this story so we can go back to the republic vs empire storyline again
i just deleted the game again from my PC, until the story come back. " oh wait another bunch of ugly outfits for CC go buy it now!! seeya next live update guys!! " - i'm so F tired of mandalore that i want to choke all of them, imagine being a lord of the sith and get scoled by a stupid mandalorian who could easily die to us. - graphics and face adjustments are always welcome. - delaying story hoping they have a good writer for this, if not get ready to see more dread hairs in the game and "colored" character in story narrative, OR delay to adjust the VOICE ACTING which is the best thing in this whole game. - i play this game since beta and oh lord i really love this game deeply, i really REALLY hope that they take they work seriously and listen to the community screams and understand that WE know more what is good for the game than them. - ALSO, WTF they did to Darth Malgus...the iconic character treated like crap in this story arc, he needs justice Malgus is way too important for the story since the beginning. PS: (sorry about my crap english, not a native speaker)
One of their greatest achievements is to make everyone hate the Mandalorians. Quite an accomplishment! If you love Mandalorians go and play SWTOR and you'll surely hate them all. Which idiot came up with ideas like this? To quote Valkorion: "Pitiful!".
Agreed Mandolorians whould be used sparingly and in badass moments but no its you and Lana dicking around fighting mandos and some times Malgus who is a broken record at this point.
You mean you'd rather wait ten years for a story right? During one year they are usually able to churn out a 5-minute dialogue. Maybe three times 5 minutes. So a full story will take them 10 years. It's pathetic.
I joined Empire like millenia ago when all started raised ranks and lead entire Empire agaist republic to conquer Corelia...it was most epic thing ever ...pure awesomeness....since that story completely forgot that whole fricking trailer epic and game hype was about war bettween those two factions...and did everything other than that...yes there was some small bits here and there to flex lightsaber but come ON, screw all the crap cartels, pirates, mercs, ethernal empires and bring back the full scale war scenario.... how hard concept is that...just let sith fight jedi...it is a fricking star WARS...you have two factions and they fight...that is the main point of whole thing...why stwor devs don't get that...
I am prone to believe the recent bioware leaks regarding veilguard and culture within the company. There is no reason for that not to be the same thing within swtor development team. I don't like the current story team.
You do know that swtor is no longer run by Bioware right lol ? The running of it was taking over by another studio and they are now the ones doing the updates including story content.
I was excited that there was gonna be more story but I was also hoping that they would do some more date nights too. I was ready for them to announce Kira's date night but nooooo. I will say that Bioware made the biggest mistake handing over Swtor to broadsword. I know it was to focus on dragon age veilguard but that absolutely did terrible story wise and other things.
For me the story ends at eternal empire. I wish there was a single player release of just the origins, and the eternal empire storyline. But it's more likely that the servers get shut down and the game including the brilliant parts of the story just disappear.
I feel like they screwed him over from the beginning by making him go full retard via, "oooooooooooooo, wouldn't it be nice if aliens from all different worlds could be a part of the sith empire instead of just humans and the sith species!?" Like dear creators of him, the Sith are literally space nazis. How did you not know this?🤣😂
Man I want to like this game but feels like the Devs aren't doing anything to make me wanna stay. Like I played for years but the content and lack of incentive makes me not want to return.
what it bothers me! is that since Kira Karsen and lord scourge returned, they cant be placed as decorations in our strongholds! (they can but as holos). They have the audacity to want me to spend good money on decorations, when story wise i cant have my Knight`s best buddies!! I gave them several years to fix this bug,and reported to forum, but still none cared enought!
It’s not , there’s a strike on rn with voice actors striking because of big companies using AI for voice work and also so voice actors can get better pay (I swear everyone expects the worst)
they turned "low resolution trash" into "slightly less low resolution trash that looks ugly and wrinkled." 5:00 What exactly is the difference other than a catchlight for the eyes and different lighting? What?
They're saying it's "bugged" and they intend to work on it more before it goes live. With any luck they will implement player feedback. The changes are nice, but it does seem to age our characters a bit.
The game started to die after Knights of the Eternal Empire. The best parts is from loading screen to Valkorion dying. Edit. The graphics update looks amazing, wanna go through the story one more time.
I can't remember how long ago it was now but I remember you (Sam) did an interview with Eric musco and asked him my question 'do you have a plan when it comes to your story content' mainly because it looked like the malgus plot wasn't good anywhere, it seems he lied and they clearly don't
It's kinda obvious they would need to delay it when they literally reworking game textures...But still idk how this game can go alive again. If they want to do some last try with this game, then some big big big release with consoles (if they plan it)
The switch to Boradsword turned out to be the beginning of the eulogy of SWTOR after all. A bloody exit scam is what it is. I was cautiously optimistic after the initial reaction that the game was going on life support whilst what's left of the playerbase was gonna get siphoned from as much money as humanly possible. Looks more and more like my gut feeling was correct, and only my biased love towards the game (and sunk cost fallacy, considering that I've been playing since Beta) is what made me deny it for this long.
ok may sound harsh but when i ment nothing burger, its like we got the buns (the expansion) and we got the toppings and sauce of our burger (the update textures, missions and market items and rewards) but no burger (no story) xD
Same here. It’s wild some other creators are calling this update a “mini expansion” haha! It’s literally missing story content so that is ridiculous to suggest.
The main thing that drew me to SWTOR was the story, building a personalized adventure for my toon, enjoying the roleplay aspect. Everything else in the game was on par with, or worse than, features available in other MMOs. These days, our characters often don't speak, breaking immersion for me. Class, race, and choice don't impact the railroaded story anymore. The cumbersome player housing system has been abandoned, save for the occasional drop of new (and sometimes buggy) decorations. The cosmetic system doesn't even have a preview mode. It feels to me like the roleplay aspects of the game are on the backburner.
So I'm a recently returned player. I am personally more interested in endgame progressions and group content, but I completely understand if others love the story and are anxious to continue it. I watched the 7.6 stream and was excited to see the interaction between the new lair boss and better augments. I have always enjoyed crafting and operations more than any other content. People in game sometimes claim it's "dead", which I think is an exaggeration. But I do see why some think it has gotten stale. As a fan of games like Diablo and Path of Exile, one of the aspects of those games that has always amazed me is how the developers designed it so that there is really no end to one's ability for self-improvement. Diablo's progression was somewhat static, so they introduced paragon levels and greater rifts. In Path of Exile they introduce new content each season that can be used to enhance your gear/abilities. The overall frustration I sense with people playing Swtor is that the endgame flatlines for them with no clear way to progress. Maybe you reach the end of the story, or maybe you max your gear rating, or maybe you don't have enough access to operations because groups are too scarce. If I were in charge of the dev team at Swtor, I would push to find a way to break through the current endgame ceiling by synchronously and simultaneously adding advancements to crafting, endgame gear, and group content. There are all kinds of ways this could be done too. Maybe do something like introduce a new gear slot for holocrons, which is exclusively unlocked through story advancement. Then release new raids for obtaining varieties of holocrons, which reward better and better ones the higher difficulty you choose. I'm just thinking out loud. But the point I'm making is that there needs to be more creativity on gameplay advancement and less focus on cosmetics that can be obtained through the cartel market. Set a deadline for producing a new storyline advancement chapter each quarter, without fail. They won't always be great, but it'll be something we look forward too, regardless. Gradually open up the endgame gearing system to allow fanatics and NiM raiders the option to improve their characters with harder and harder content while simultaneously chasing better and better gear. This is all to say: I personally believe if they took a chance on being more creative with the endgame by advancing storylines, operations, flashpoints, gearing, and crafting, they would attract more people, which would make the game more fun. As it is now, I think there are a lot of us veteran players who yearn for more to do, beyond just a new lair boss and dynamic encounters. I'm still very excited for 7.6, but I know they can do more if they just take a chance.
Im sorry man, all I heared in this video is *MASS EFFECT MUSIC INTESIFIES!!!*, devs going "mewmewme, we can't do anything properly" and your live reaction! XD
I left years ago because the majority of updates involved only low level or new characters, and I already had a male and female of every class (16 charaters) through all the content the game had to offer. I wasn't asking for new expansions yearly, just something I could enjoy on my existing toons. Like maybe companion customization for the KotFE and KotET companions. Or some upgrades to my ships, or the Odessen base. Maybe our own flaghip as a new hub once we rejoin the Empire or the Republic.
The story since 7 has sucked so is it REALLY that bad that its delayed? The actual bad thing about this patch is the announcement of the upcoming augments requiring having to kill the newest boss to get the god damn item to make them. Just what the game needs, WoW style having to do a dungeon 1000x. I guess we should be glad we are getting anything at all in this low population low money making game though it sure would be NICE if those that buy a game out actually looks at its history and what drove players away and...I dont know...NOT keep the shit that did that and maybe try to get people to come back?
Was an amazing game back in the day. Still a good game today. I usually go back to it once a year or so just because it still feels like a home away from home.
The fact is that like 5 people are working on this game and it doesn’t have the budget or support to pump out content at a reasonable pace with full voice acting. It’s probably much cheaper to pay a few designers to upgrade textures than hire more writers, quest designers, VAs, etc.
"Chase Malgus", huh? Looks like they're taking a page out of Inu-Yasha. 200 episodes, we're going after Naraku! We are fighting Naraku! Oh, it's a clone. 200 episodes, we're going after Naraku! We're fighting Naraku! Oh, it's a clone. Ad nauseum.
I'm not going to lie, i'm sad to see how much SWOTOR has changed from how it started. I can only hope next year will be better, but on a happier note i'm thinking of rewatching some of your Big Videos for Christmas since they're so relaxing to listen to.
cant wait to capture malgus again... would much rather want some early origins lore of ben quadinaros, and no droopy mccool? cylon jiggy, hello? honestly just give us some glup shitto content at this point idk
The edited FMJ clip was perfectly hilarious. I bet they were absolutely bricking it when they knew they were going to announce the STORY of all things was being delayed, yet they more than happily droned on about the cartel market additions. I know it's the only thing keeping the game alive, but they really are tone deaf as they never acknowledge the fact that the Cartel Market has long been the biggest point of contention for a majority of the dwindling player base.
i really dont want to wait 5 years for the mando and heta kol crap to end or more they are dragging this out the game hasn't been the same since shadow of revan i did like onslaught.
I played during original launch, then quit when it went free to play. I got the itch last month and reinstalled. When I logged in, I noticed the character models were way different from launch and in a much worse way. They were so bad that it instantly killed that itch and I just uninstalled. I couldn't even make it past the character creation screen because the faces and head designs were so bad.
I wish they could improve performance of the engine somehow. I have a very high end PC and still can't get a steady 60 fps in warzones or group content.
been away for a long time and seeing all these changes is really nice but at the same time hard to see ie delays still happening oc. The coms console seems to be a fix/workaround regarding the sag strike and voice actors issues EA is having.
Here my new player take.. Why am I obliged to have some pleb companion follow me around the entire game.. Dismiss it and it just respawns after every npc interaction.. It just feels wrong trying to be some badass jedi/sith with some random npc making me twice as strong... I dismiss it constantly to have more immersive difficulty and individuality but it just keeps respawning..
Upto 80 staff work at the studio full time. Then they have 200-1000 outsourced staff, as per the credits for each expansion. Small dev team? No. Smaller dev team than WoW? Yeah that’s fair.
As an endgame player and frequent NiM raider, I thoguht I should give a little bit of insight into the changes revolving around endgame content, primarily the new lair boss and augments. In my opinion, with the addition off new augments as well as the lair boss, I can confidently say that this is a golden opportunity for anyone who has been interested but feeling overwhelmed by endgame content, as when the update drops there will be a multitude of people running the new lair boss for the schematics and whatnot, so gearing up to a level where you can raid becomes very easy if you play even a little bit. In previous patches, viable augment setups would cost hundreds of millions of credits to obtain off gtn or through crafting with cybertech, however with RPMs and OEMs getting cheaper, as well as the base high level augments only requiring crafted materials to get, hitting tertiary stat thresholds, (Accuracy, Alacrity, and Critical) becomes very cheap, and can be done in a few hours of materials gathering and crafting, this will bypass the need to play ops at a low Item Rating, (other than the lair boss). The state of endgame content at the moment is that if you have 344 gear with purple augs you can do almost every boss in the game, so being able to get that equivalent power with the new augments is a step in the right direction, allowing new players to get into the content without the hundreds of millions of credits that is ideal for entry. If you have any further questions go ahead and ask.
From what I’ve seen the PvP community isn’t too happy about having to play the new lair boss to be able to get the augs. So while this could be a small and minor positive step for PvE players, is now a huge inconvenience for PvP players. The only thing that softens the blow is the fact the mats and schematic will be trade-able of course. I’m not sure making augs cheaper and more accessible is a thing we need. The game is still easier than it’s ever been. I tanked DF VM for the lolz not too long ago and took my severely undergeared Assassin with no augs. Didn’t die once. Healers did not struggle to keep me alive. Fair enough, I’m awesome, but my point is that the game is easy no matter the difficulty. NiM raiding is not something all players will do. In fact, already we know that less than 5% of players replay operations at all. Now imagine how many are playing NiM. Augs more accessible? Doesn’t matter.
Agree with these points, I was looked at the effects very one dimensionally and looked at how they would impact the endgame scene directly, which would be encourage more people to try it, because it’s easier. I have only ever PvPed a few times, and it isn’t that fun for me, so I am nowhere near qualified to make a comment on how it would impact PvP.
Tbh for me it was kinda of a hopeful new to have the story delay, they cant give us good story content like before with the months they have, they don't have the ressources for it sadly anymore. A lot of people where disapointed with the kotor cutsenes (myself included) and said that they would prefered waiting longer and have cutscenes instead. if taking more time improve the quality and remove that im all for it. I prefer having a good time once in many months that be disapointed regularly every like 3-5 months, I don't mind playing other games in the meantime 👍 But we'll see if its because they listened when the story drop...Could still be something else
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The voice acting made this game, so having less of it seems to undermine the game.
yeah , the voice acted story with multiple choices is the main reason ive been playing this game
They literally said comlink isn’t replacing voice acting . Do people watch the whole stream
@@whaterverman479 The games original selling point was “fully voice acted” and now they are making content that is not “fully voice acted” so therefore, it’s more than reasonable for people to criticise it in that way. “It’s not replacing voice acted content” well I’m pretty sure this *could have* been voice acted, but isn’t.
Always open your mind to EVERY perspective of the argument if you seek to understand it.
@@swcentral Well, look at their perspective then. Broadsword does the updates for the game, but they don't have the same resources bioware had for VA. Comlinks are a good addition to the game and I hope they do keep the voice acting for the main story bits going forward, the side stuff doesn't need to be VA.
@@Kairac112 That is also, a good point :)
We've had the Emperor die, and come back, die and come back. We've had Revan, die and come back, die and come back. Now it's Malgus, dying and coming back, dying and coming back. I don't want to spoil things, but once this is done, I have a feeling where the next story might go.
I'm really starting to hate Malgus at this point even though I have the newest released figure of him and some pics of him upon my walls.
Just wish they'd either kill him off already (the guy's in his 80s already anyways so....), make him say that he's sorry for everything he's ever done to harm the sith empire or turn him into a light side/grey Jedi character aka have him redeem himself completely.
Yeah, Palpatine is going to die and come back. Somehow.
The fact that they're going heavier on graphics upgrades tells me they are they have longer term plans for this game, because if not there would be no reason at all to go through with something like that.
Agree. They show no signs of shutdown. Despite how bad things get.
It's called justifying your pay check
They threw out the entire Korriban lore with the graphic update.
@@cLaw27 I felt the same way
Let’s hope it is delayed for more voice acting scenes then kotor. Also hoping it means an improvement in the story.
That’s the dream
Nope, they just haven't finished their DEI implementations...
@@csabanagy7898 that’s why I said hope not likely.
@@swcentral yeah if only, so do you think satire can still be fixed or is it possibly to far gone now?
@@Mr.Curious364 I have a new video sorts covering this question soon… it’s a surprise though shhhh
Honestly, the delay better mean that they want to end this story with a bang, instead of just delaying it to give us 5 more years of Heta Kol
I haven't played in quite some time, but the character model updates are long overdue. It was always kind of jarring seeing this really detailed npc and then having the camera pan to my character's weirdly smooth clay-like face. So yeah, that's a welcome change imo.
What's worse is the more revealing outfits. The head is a completely different color than the rest of their body.
The models look terrible, Dry and full of wrinkles.
This is not my swtor, i don't need realism in my cartoony art-style game.
@@mikeity2009 When I first saw the theatrical trailers, I thought the game was going to look 'that' good. HUGE disappointment :( The story made up for it. At least it did till they started with the Mandalorian ark.
@@TechnoDelta a photo-realistic swtor would require swtor to be moved onto a more powerful game engine and losing some swtor fans who only have a low-powered pc/laptop to play on though.
It would be great if a photo realistic swtor existed, still
Swtor having a story delay after they stated that they would be reducing the amount of voice acted scenes is very worrying. Delays in the past usually meant that additional time was needed to polish and fix things. However lately delays in games have caused gamers to wonder if priorities are being properly planned out.
And we still have 16-person operations with frame rates dropping to 20 fps...
swtor won't be the same without the voice acted scenes, though here i see two possibilities:
1- they remove the voice acted scenes and replace them with KOTOR style cinematics
2- they keep doing voice acted scenes but due to lack of personnel story-related updates would be delayed
I liked swtor BECAUSE of the voice acting. I trudge through the fighting, just to experience the story. Haven't played for a couple years. Doesn't sound like I've missed much.
I wish they would make class origin storylines repeatable in the way you can do KOTET and KOTFE missions.
So it took 4 years for them to create 8 separate story lines, and they can't do a single one in 6 months?
Bioware Killed off most of their development team when Anthem became a thing. That is why we stopped getting weekly and monthly updates in like 4.0-5.0 timeframe. An they never recovered. Broadsword inherited the mess that Bioware Executives left them, and they kept most of the staff on board, and they're pushing content out that is millions of times better than what they did in the last 4 years at Bioware. As a responsible adult, I personally feel, that Legacy of the Sith should not be used to judge Broadsword. I will Judge broadsword once they complete a full expansion that wasn't started under a different executive team. Also, they fired the Story Lead, or he quit. Based on the language used I personally feel he was forced to resign, and after the backlash of the Malgus line, it was honestly for the best. The story is not creative or engaging anymore, which was SWTORS biggest pull. A WoW clone of our favorite universe with AMAZING STORY.... Oh well, I'm gonna keep laughing from the sidelines at how horribly mismanged this shit is. Also, them trying to make us pay money for a sub just to keep our character names? Crazy... Also, not worth it. All in all, I have serious speculations of Broadsword can even hold on that long before the IP actually gets shut down. Outlaws performed terribly, and the Star Wars IP is crazy danger right now of being shut down for any new content for awhile on any of the Star Wars IPs..... Go woke and go broke!! 8=========D~~~~
"You Won't Like This Update..."
Yeah, that's been the case for almost all updates since 6.0
:(
So we know that pre alpha the intent was to get companions to ride in the second seat of speeders that had them but that was never completed... Kind of crazy that it makes it in 13 years later
lets be honest folks the game is on life support just like the star wars IP. maybe once disney and lucasfilm figure out what they actually want to do with it and end all this floundering the game might see some extra support but that is unlikely. i would not be surprised if the game is sunsetted within the next 2 years
what i dont get is , and this is a big one , why the fu.. they dont give us the option to replay the class story and the other expansion chapters after we finished them like with the immortal empire chapters, i hate the fact that if i want to replay a class`s story or one of the other expansions to make different choices i got to make a new character
You’re not alone on this.
I'd have to do some digging, and I don't know if it is still up since Bioware released that news, but they have stated that based how the old base game is coded, thats why they've had issues doing anything with it. Something about having to rewrite everything and they'd basically have to rebuild it. But they went to 64bit, so I don't understand, because they basically had to do that already. So doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm also not a developer working for Bioware or Broadsword. Nor would I ever work for anything EA related. LMFAO
While I agree with this, I'd rather create 30 Jedi Guardians and replay everything with them just ffs give us GOOD stories. If need be, go back and retcon some of it - just do something good, for heaven's sake. I have like 100 ideas how to do that and while I am definitely not a genius, I'm pretty sure most of the SWTOR community would prefer like 90% of my ideas to those of BioBroadmalfunction. It's a laugh.
I really hope they don't get rid of a voice acted protagonist, it helps me feel more attached to the character because I can hear their emotion etc etc. Also as much as I like the new characters, I really do miss the original companions from the base game. I hope they include more of them in the story eventually like KOTFE and KOTET 😭😭
I really wish the story would progress at a good pace and have actually changes that matter
I really hope the story comes out soon and not mid 2025
Only thing i need from this game is more story,
but seems like the devs don't want the same things :(((((((((((((
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I think they need to hire new writer’s personally like I want all the characters to have a fair chance to interact with the player especially whoever we romance
@@ladyice-6 I agree I was disappointed when they showed comps coming, I was excited for Rass and Jekiah. I wish that Lana wasn’t the only LI comp coming in the patch. I mean I like Lana but I miss the other LI comps to.
@@Mr.Curious364 I am getting tired of the whole dicking around the galaxy with Lana fighting Malgus and Mandos like come on how hard is it to have a classic Imps vs Republic where you the player have to solve this planetary conflict out and this situation is/was affected by your past choices.
@@DarthBarasthethicc I know, I miss it to. Although usually when I mention it, all I hear is, “the devs are small staffed and don’t have the resources for that.” Although I also miss imp vs pub. I mean if you (the writing dev team) can’t do class stories anymore. Can you at least go back to imp vs pub, or give us 2 separate stories because forcing tech users and force users together, is a bad combo. It was stupid when they did it in kotfe and stupid now.
I cant be alone in not thinking Malgus is a good or intimidating villain, i feel like your own character is simply stronger than malgus already and he needs a bunch of extra things to actually be a threat
Man it’s been years since this mandalorian civil war started.i just wish they could wrap up this story so we can go back to the republic vs empire storyline again
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Voice actor strike was the delay.
Every time there’s a hysteria the hysteria is wrong , just like the whole “maintenance mode” BS 2 years ago, TBEY ARENT GETTING RID OF VOICE ACTING
That’s true idk why is being so bitchy about it
the storyline makes no sense at this point. after seeing those writers I think I know why.
They've had no issue releasing half-assed bug riddled trash until now. It must be literally unplayable to earn a delay.
Pretty sure it's because of the voice actor strikes in Hollywood.
@@regishel They've released patches with missing or placeholder VO before so I doubt that's it.
3:34 imagine using that mount along with Darth Malgus in the "Jedi under siege" chapter lol
It only works with so many companions I believe, but yes it would be funny if it worked 😏
Maybe I’ll try it
i just deleted the game again from my PC, until the story come back. " oh wait another bunch of ugly outfits for CC go buy it now!! seeya next live update guys!! "
- i'm so F tired of mandalore that i want to choke all of them, imagine being a lord of the sith and get scoled by a stupid mandalorian who could easily die to us.
- graphics and face adjustments are always welcome.
- delaying story hoping they have a good writer for this, if not get ready to see more dread hairs in the game and "colored" character in story narrative, OR delay to adjust the VOICE ACTING which is the best thing in this whole game.
- i play this game since beta and oh lord i really love this game deeply, i really REALLY hope that they take they work seriously and listen to the community screams and understand that WE know more what is good for the game than them.
- ALSO, WTF they did to Darth Malgus...the iconic character treated like crap in this story arc, he needs justice Malgus is way too important for the story since the beginning.
PS: (sorry about my crap english, not a native speaker)
One of their greatest achievements is to make everyone hate the Mandalorians. Quite an accomplishment! If you love Mandalorians go and play SWTOR and you'll surely hate them all. Which idiot came up with ideas like this? To quote Valkorion: "Pitiful!".
Agreed Mandolorians whould be used sparingly and in badass moments but no its you and Lana dicking around fighting mandos and some times Malgus who is a broken record at this point.
I gave up on this game a few years ago when they changed the talent system and added the combat style bs.
I rather wait a year and get a full story then get parts
You mean you'd rather wait ten years for a story right? During one year they are usually able to churn out a 5-minute dialogue. Maybe three times 5 minutes. So a full story will take them 10 years. It's pathetic.
So what did you expect from going to Broadsword ??
I'll just play Pantheon -- it's GOT to be better
I wish we had got KOTOR3 instead of SWTOR
The games dead mate.. They made the money they wanted of the cartel market & now gave it to broadsword to die quietly.
Character name purge ridiciolus I am pissed off hearing of this crap.
Graphics update is really nice
Agree. Imagine they held all this stuff back though and released it all at once and named it the SWTOR Remaster. That would have sold.
I joined Empire like millenia ago when all started raised ranks and lead entire Empire agaist republic to conquer Corelia...it was most epic thing ever ...pure awesomeness....since that story completely forgot that whole fricking trailer epic and game hype was about war bettween those two factions...and did everything other than that...yes there was some small bits here and there to flex lightsaber but come ON, screw all the crap cartels, pirates, mercs, ethernal empires and bring back the full scale war scenario.... how hard concept is that...just let sith fight jedi...it is a fricking star WARS...you have two factions and they fight...that is the main point of whole thing...why stwor devs don't get that...
I am prone to believe the recent bioware leaks regarding veilguard and culture within the company. There is no reason for that not to be the same thing within swtor development team. I don't like the current story team.
You do know that swtor is no longer run by Bioware right lol ? The running of it was taking over by another studio and they are now the ones doing the updates including story content.
Darth magus is now they them and we are actually the bad guys now.
Still a better story than reys arc
@@GamerAgeStevetrue, looks like it sold to broadsword and many members transitioned over. Ea is still publishing
I was excited that there was gonna be more story but I was also hoping that they would do some more date nights too. I was ready for them to announce Kira's date night but nooooo. I will say that Bioware made the biggest mistake handing over Swtor to broadsword. I know it was to focus on dragon age veilguard but that absolutely did terrible story wise and other things.
I wish this game could get a Relm Reborn treatment
Quality over quantity but in the clip you are showing, the guy's mouth isn't moving ... Not sure which game has more wasted potential, this or STO.
Aye 😂
For me the story ends at eternal empire. I wish there was a single player release of just the origins, and the eternal empire storyline. But it's more likely that the servers get shut down and the game including the brilliant parts of the story just disappear.
JFC....I stopped playing several years ago.....just wow, I really don't see myself coming back.
Was so confused the first seconds I heard the Mass Effect background music but it is somehow fitting.
Yea i wouldnt say theyre learning... if they HAD been, the annual patch delay wouldnt still be happening.
I enjoyed the mystery of the DLC´s after Valkorion, but since Malgus returned it´s just not the same. He is such a boring villain
I feel like they screwed him over from the beginning by making him go full retard via, "oooooooooooooo, wouldn't it be nice if aliens from all different worlds could be a part of the sith empire instead of just humans and the sith species!?"
Like dear creators of him, the Sith are literally space nazis. How did you not know this?🤣😂
What a joke... The writing has been mediocre for years. You're telling me it was even worse this time ? ffs
Man I want to like this game but feels like the Devs aren't doing anything to make me wanna stay. Like I played for years but the content and lack of incentive makes me not want to return.
Please let me kill malgus already, almost as bad as the emperor except without the cool lore reason
what it bothers me! is that since Kira Karsen and lord scourge returned, they cant be placed as decorations in our strongholds!
(they can but as holos).
They have the audacity to want me to spend good money on decorations, when story wise i cant have my Knight`s best buddies!!
I gave them several years to fix this bug,and reported to forum, but still none cared enought!
those devs look exactly as i would imagine
😂
I thought the same 🤪
rofl
Glad I'm not the only one with that reaction XD
Full maintenance mode engaged.
It’s not , there’s a strike on rn with voice actors striking because of big companies using AI for voice work and also so voice actors can get better pay (I swear everyone expects the worst)
they turned "low resolution trash" into "slightly less low resolution trash that looks ugly and wrinkled."
5:00 What exactly is the difference other than a catchlight for the eyes and different lighting? What?
They're saying it's "bugged" and they intend to work on it more before it goes live. With any luck they will implement player feedback. The changes are nice, but it does seem to age our characters a bit.
The game started to die after Knights of the Eternal Empire. The best parts is from loading screen to Valkorion dying.
Edit. The graphics update looks amazing, wanna go through the story one more time.
I can't remember how long ago it was now but I remember you (Sam) did an interview with Eric musco and asked him my question 'do you have a plan when it comes to your story content' mainly because it looked like the malgus plot wasn't good anywhere, it seems he lied and they clearly don't
Yeah that was 4 years ago haha! Back in November 2020.
GTA 6 get's released before the Mano story ends
It’s probably delayed because they finally realized what they’ve been releasing in the SWEU hasn’t been warmly received by fans.
Nope it’s the voice actors for strikes that are currently going on rn
Greta voice: How dare you! Many Rishi died to bring us that armor. You stole their future.
Unfortunately they only updated the face textures and not the models, also all the character heads will look like they aged about an extra 10 years
It's kinda obvious they would need to delay it when they literally reworking game textures...But still idk how this game can go alive again. If they want to do some last try with this game, then some big big big release with consoles (if they plan it)
5:16 the glow in the eyes is sticking out like a sore thumb but otherwise its a good change
Thay called that "Life in the eyes" during the stream haha!
Also the tongue and just looks like a lot of poop AI upscaling
To be honest, I didnt get excited much, I believe story won't be greay but I hope they prove me wrong
The switch to Boradsword turned out to be the beginning of the eulogy of SWTOR after all. A bloody exit scam is what it is.
I was cautiously optimistic after the initial reaction that the game was going on life support whilst what's left of the playerbase was gonna get siphoned from as much money as humanly possible.
Looks more and more like my gut feeling was correct, and only my biased love towards the game (and sunk cost fallacy, considering that I've been playing since Beta) is what made me deny it for this long.
Are they changing politically charged elements of the game last minute to avoid backlash?
Possible
Honestly, after watching that stream, it felt like a huge nothing burger :(
ok may sound harsh but when i ment nothing burger, its like we got the buns (the expansion) and we got the toppings and sauce of our burger (the update textures, missions and market items and rewards) but no burger (no story) xD
Same here. It’s wild some other creators are calling this update a “mini expansion” haha! It’s literally missing story content so that is ridiculous to suggest.
@@swcentral most of swtor content creators give a lot of merit to mediocrity.
The main thing that drew me to SWTOR was the story, building a personalized adventure for my toon, enjoying the roleplay aspect. Everything else in the game was on par with, or worse than, features available in other MMOs. These days, our characters often don't speak, breaking immersion for me. Class, race, and choice don't impact the railroaded story anymore. The cumbersome player housing system has been abandoned, save for the occasional drop of new (and sometimes buggy) decorations. The cosmetic system doesn't even have a preview mode. It feels to me like the roleplay aspects of the game are on the backburner.
I bet they hate having 16 separate voice actors they have to get together for every story update. Hating that shit now 😂
They really gotta ditch the French and German voice actors at this point
@kriegaone3658 the fact I didn't even think of the dub actors. Holy shit that's a ton of work
@@Assassino275There is nearly 100 active voice actors through all languages of the game. Definitely a lot! :)
They've already had to replace some, like the male Imperial Agent!
@@alexander9703 I’m also quite sure the VA for lord scourge was fired.
to compensate for the delay this story better be GOOD
and longer than an hour of content
You wish ... I'm afraid.
Dragonage is doing bad… SWTOR is doing bad… I wonder why? Is there something these games have in common?
The background music was driving nuts. I know I heard it somewhere, but couldn't pin point it. Then it hit me. It's from Mass Effect.
Indeed. It’s the main menu music :)
Haha me too
Vigil
Still no Krayt Dragon, and we NEED a Mandalorian themed pvp season!
So I'm a recently returned player. I am personally more interested in endgame progressions and group content, but I completely understand if others love the story and are anxious to continue it. I watched the 7.6 stream and was excited to see the interaction between the new lair boss and better augments. I have always enjoyed crafting and operations more than any other content. People in game sometimes claim it's "dead", which I think is an exaggeration. But I do see why some think it has gotten stale. As a fan of games like Diablo and Path of Exile, one of the aspects of those games that has always amazed me is how the developers designed it so that there is really no end to one's ability for self-improvement. Diablo's progression was somewhat static, so they introduced paragon levels and greater rifts. In Path of Exile they introduce new content each season that can be used to enhance your gear/abilities. The overall frustration I sense with people playing Swtor is that the endgame flatlines for them with no clear way to progress. Maybe you reach the end of the story, or maybe you max your gear rating, or maybe you don't have enough access to operations because groups are too scarce. If I were in charge of the dev team at Swtor, I would push to find a way to break through the current endgame ceiling by synchronously and simultaneously adding advancements to crafting, endgame gear, and group content. There are all kinds of ways this could be done too. Maybe do something like introduce a new gear slot for holocrons, which is exclusively unlocked through story advancement. Then release new raids for obtaining varieties of holocrons, which reward better and better ones the higher difficulty you choose. I'm just thinking out loud. But the point I'm making is that there needs to be more creativity on gameplay advancement and less focus on cosmetics that can be obtained through the cartel market. Set a deadline for producing a new storyline advancement chapter each quarter, without fail. They won't always be great, but it'll be something we look forward too, regardless. Gradually open up the endgame gearing system to allow fanatics and NiM raiders the option to improve their characters with harder and harder content while simultaneously chasing better and better gear.
This is all to say: I personally believe if they took a chance on being more creative with the endgame by advancing storylines, operations, flashpoints, gearing, and crafting, they would attract more people, which would make the game more fun. As it is now, I think there are a lot of us veteran players who yearn for more to do, beyond just a new lair boss and dynamic encounters. I'm still very excited for 7.6, but I know they can do more if they just take a chance.
Wait what was that about losing names? When do i have to log in for that NOT to happen?
To be safe, log in every day before the next update.
Im sorry man, all I heared in this video is *MASS EFFECT MUSIC INTESIFIES!!!*, devs going "mewmewme, we can't do anything properly" and your live reaction! XD
That was all you needed 😂
I left years ago because the majority of updates involved only low level or new characters, and I already had a male and female of every class (16 charaters) through all the content the game had to offer. I wasn't asking for new expansions yearly, just something I could enjoy on my existing toons. Like maybe companion customization for the KotFE and KotET companions. Or some upgrades to my ships, or the Odessen base. Maybe our own flaghip as a new hub once we rejoin the Empire or the Republic.
The story since 7 has sucked so is it REALLY that bad that its delayed?
The actual bad thing about this patch is the announcement of the upcoming augments requiring having to kill the newest boss to get the god damn item to make them. Just what the game needs, WoW style having to do a dungeon 1000x.
I guess we should be glad we are getting anything at all in this low population low money making game though it sure would be NICE if those that buy a game out actually looks at its history and what drove players away and...I dont know...NOT keep the shit that did that and maybe try to get people to come back?
Good points 😅
Was an amazing game back in the day. Still a good game today. I usually go back to it once a year or so just because it still feels like a home away from home.
Nothing in SWTOR entertains me as much, as Central criticising the devs… does not get old 😊
And it will never end :D thanks my friend!
The highlight for me in that stream was the companion mount, I laughed so hard when they showed Lana Sitting in that Side-Seat 😂
The fact is that like 5 people are working on this game and it doesn’t have the budget or support to pump out content at a reasonable pace with full voice acting. It’s probably much cheaper to pay a few designers to upgrade textures than hire more writers, quest designers, VAs, etc.
Guess I won't be coming back anytime soon!
"Chase Malgus", huh? Looks like they're taking a page out of Inu-Yasha. 200 episodes, we're going after Naraku! We are fighting Naraku! Oh, it's a clone. 200 episodes, we're going after Naraku! We're fighting Naraku! Oh, it's a clone. Ad nauseum.
Damn i run the game 4k so im glad i upgraded my gaming rig with a 4090. Some of these new graphic updates look amazing especially Korriban and Tython
Think I’ll pull my 4k monitor out for another story play through! Hehe
I'm not going to lie, i'm sad to see how much SWOTOR has changed from how it started. I can only hope next year will be better, but on a happier note i'm thinking of rewatching some of your Big Videos for Christmas since they're so relaxing to listen to.
I appreciate you!
@@swcentral Thank you, I appreciate you and your content!
Just back to us red glow eyes on characters who have turn on dark side apparence. Apologize for bad english :)
tbh I've completely lost interest in the story anyway. Haven't found it compelling or interesting or fun at all.
cant wait to capture malgus again... would much rather want some early origins lore of ben quadinaros, and no droopy mccool? cylon jiggy, hello? honestly just give us some glup shitto content at this point idk
The edited FMJ clip was perfectly hilarious. I bet they were absolutely bricking it when they knew they were going to announce the STORY of all things was being delayed, yet they more than happily droned on about the cartel market additions. I know it's the only thing keeping the game alive, but they really are tone deaf as they never acknowledge the fact that the Cartel Market has long been the biggest point of contention for a majority of the dwindling player base.
@@JynxedKoma Glad you liked it hehe!
i really dont want to wait 5 years for the mando and heta kol crap to end or more they are dragging this out the game hasn't been the same since shadow of revan i did like onslaught.
I played during original launch, then quit when it went free to play. I got the itch last month and reinstalled. When I logged in, I noticed the character models were way different from launch and in a much worse way. They were so bad that it instantly killed that itch and I just uninstalled. I couldn't even make it past the character creation screen because the faces and head designs were so bad.
Just have to say, i love how you use the mass effect songs in the background, still one of my fav soundtracks of all time
I’m at the point where I’m fed up of hearing Sith music I needed a change myself 😂
It just seems like they hear what we want but go here have some updated art instead lol
I wish they could improve performance of the engine somehow. I have a very high end PC and still can't get a steady 60 fps in warzones or group content.
I don't even watch the youtube videos anymore cause ut doesn't feel like watching a cutscene movie anymore...
They are destroying everything
been away for a long time and seeing all these changes is really nice but at the same time hard to see ie delays still happening oc. The coms console seems to be a fix/workaround regarding the sag strike and voice actors issues EA is having.
That mass effect backgound music goes hard.
>cuts to the first clip from the dev stream
>it's two overweight women
Well this is a bad sign right out the gate.
Here my new player take.. Why am I obliged to have some pleb companion follow me around the entire game.. Dismiss it and it just respawns after every npc interaction.. It just feels wrong trying to be some badass jedi/sith with some random npc making me twice as strong... I dismiss it constantly to have more immersive difficulty and individuality but it just keeps respawning..
They have a small dev team....
Upto 80 staff work at the studio full time. Then they have 200-1000 outsourced staff, as per the credits for each expansion. Small dev team? No. Smaller dev team than WoW? Yeah that’s fair.
I am so glad I quit this game, this is fucking ridiculous.
I don't know i installed the game again then uninstalled it doesn't feel like what it used to
As an endgame player and frequent NiM raider, I thoguht I should give a little bit of insight into the changes revolving around endgame content, primarily the new lair boss and augments. In my opinion, with the addition off new augments as well as the lair boss, I can confidently say that this is a golden opportunity for anyone who has been interested but feeling overwhelmed by endgame content, as when the update drops there will be a multitude of people running the new lair boss for the schematics and whatnot, so gearing up to a level where you can raid becomes very easy if you play even a little bit. In previous patches, viable augment setups would cost hundreds of millions of credits to obtain off gtn or through crafting with cybertech, however with RPMs and OEMs getting cheaper, as well as the base high level augments only requiring crafted materials to get, hitting tertiary stat thresholds, (Accuracy, Alacrity, and Critical) becomes very cheap, and can be done in a few hours of materials gathering and crafting, this will bypass the need to play ops at a low Item Rating, (other than the lair boss). The state of endgame content at the moment is that if you have 344 gear with purple augs you can do almost every boss in the game, so being able to get that equivalent power with the new augments is a step in the right direction, allowing new players to get into the content without the hundreds of millions of credits that is ideal for entry.
If you have any further questions go ahead and ask.
From what I’ve seen the PvP community isn’t too happy about having to play the new lair boss to be able to get the augs. So while this could be a small and minor positive step for PvE players, is now a huge inconvenience for PvP players.
The only thing that softens the blow is the fact the mats and schematic will be trade-able of course.
I’m not sure making augs cheaper and more accessible is a thing we need. The game is still easier than it’s ever been. I tanked DF VM for the lolz not too long ago and took my severely undergeared Assassin with no augs. Didn’t die once. Healers did not struggle to keep me alive. Fair enough, I’m awesome, but my point is that the game is easy no matter the difficulty.
NiM raiding is not something all players will do. In fact, already we know that less than 5% of players replay operations at all. Now imagine how many are playing NiM.
Augs more accessible? Doesn’t matter.
Agree with these points, I was looked at the effects very one dimensionally and looked at how they would impact the endgame scene directly, which would be encourage more people to try it, because it’s easier. I have only ever PvPed a few times, and it isn’t that fun for me, so I am nowhere near qualified to make a comment on how it would impact PvP.
Tbh for me it was kinda of a hopeful new to have the story delay, they cant give us good story content like before with the months they have, they don't have the ressources for it sadly anymore. A lot of people where disapointed with the kotor cutsenes (myself included) and said that they would prefered waiting longer and have cutscenes instead. if taking more time improve the quality and remove that im all for it. I prefer having a good time once in many months that be disapointed regularly every like 3-5 months, I don't mind playing other games in the meantime 👍
But we'll see if its because they listened when the story drop...Could still be something else