Brother you are such a Gem on RUclips, just a wealth of knowledge, I really appreciate your knowhow and sharing it with us all, You are Never to Old to Learn Anything. God Bless you and sweet Ginger❤
I like how you reference "if you've seen in 3rd world repair videos". I've seen those, they are clever, as is this video. Instead of the wheel roller, you can just use the edge of a soup can and roll the edge back and forth while putting pressure. Olden days (1970s) tire tube patch kits were sturdy cardboard with metal bottom and metal screw on cap and you'd roll the hard bottom rim of that kit back and forth to grind in the pressure.
This was a terrific video. I work on a military base as a contractor, and some of our heavy equipment have tires that are very expensive, and we get shrapnel punctures daily. I am all over this technique. Thanks for the clinic!!!
That outro was priceless! Mini Baby Sasquatch trying to poke a hole with the wrong end of the pike! Then spliced into the same sequence Ginger going through, on the scent. Looks like you’re having way too much fun in editing! 😂👍
You do good work. Most people are too lazy to put in the effort that you put into a repair. I like that fix things rather than throwing stuff away. The look on Ginger's face was precious 😍.
Thanks. It's funny that Ginger gives me the utmost attention when I start talking to her. Has no idea what I'm saying but, acts like it... What a good sport!.
@@sixtyfiveford That's just more evidence supporting my contention that when they say dog is man's best friend they mean men not mankind. Why? Because when a man speaks, a dog is the only creature that looks at him as if he is saying the most amazing things.
Back in the 70’s, I worked in a farm machinery dealer shop. We had vulcanizing pads that we would repair tractor tires with. You lay them over a patch that was similar to a tire boot. We would soak the heating pad with lighter fluid and light them with a match. It would burn out in 30-40 seconds. You remove it from the tire and you have a perfect patch. Your video brought that repair to mind.
Exceptionally well explained video. My brother moved to the Philippines and in just the few short months he's been driving there has has 6 to 8 repairs completed. Like you mentioned, the labor is so cheap that the repairs make sense.
I actually had quite a bit of help learning this from people from the Philippines. One guy in particular runs a shop down there. I bent his ear more than he wanted to teach me.
Great video, like you said there are a million repairs done in this fashion in the world where labor is cheap and parts are expensive or non-existent . Enjoyed very much . Congratulations on the subs, life is good.
Another viewer here who never realized this was a thing! This is giving me ideas for all sorts of other applications not connected with tires or tracks.
Awesome video it’s awesome to see this art of tire repair is not lost completely I used to do this in the 80s and 90s when I worked at a tire shop but it soon disappeared because of like you said the labor cost its funny know you take a tire in to get it fixed a lot of big box stores won’t fix the tire if there is a nail with in a inch of the side wall it’s just pathetic
For anyone who’s interested, I recently purchased a similar bead breaker off Amazon for $36 and used it successfully on a large zero turn tire. It’s pretty heavy but built really well.
@@mjktrash Narrow gullies/canyons with sharp granite boulders on each side. Generally, they're V'd out as well for water to run down the middle, so you're really only running on the outside edges of your tires.
You must have lived several lifetimes before this one to learn all this stuff. You never cease to amaze! Have you considered adding a tiny bit of elemental sulfur powder before the heat treatment? Supposedly, that is how they do the original "Vulcanizing". The Sulfur forms crosslinks between the rubber polymer molecules. Nut sure if it would help on a repair or not.
Fantastic repair. If I was doing a lot of off-roading, I would certainly invest in one of these vulcanising units, as it really is a money saver. Thanks for sharing
Man thats great to know about making the vulcanizing glue yourself with the cushion gum. If I can remember to keep fresh gum in stock, that would work way better because I only patch stuff once a year or so.
About 1983 I saved up and bought a new set of eagle st for my 442 and immediately tore hole in my sidewall. None of big shops would touch it ,I found a old man tire shop and he vulcanized it for me. Kinda ugly but I never had a problem with it
very informative vid , as always . i have been wanting to know about this type of repair before but as you mentioned , no one uses this in our parts of the world , im from denmark and kind of poor since everything over here cost arm and legs so its ggood to have knowledge of things all over , thanx a heep , and by the way ,i think your dog is friends with the sas!!
i was thinking instead of tin cans you could use silicon baking sheets.. its thinner more flexible and may let more heat permeate. thoughts? Fantastic info as always
I did your other method, and while it wasn't leaking yet, my scissor lift had a slice on one tire. I sanded it and super glued a piece of rubber onto it, after gluing the slice back, and sanded it and it looks like your tire. Thanks!
We use to have a tire shop in our town that made recap tires an also did vulcanizing repairs for off road tires then in the late 1960s vulcanizing repairs became illegal to do because of radial tires and people doing repairs on street legal tires the shop I spoke of repaired thousands of tires using the reinforced rubber never saw a failure of the repair
Normally wouldn't recommend tire protection plans, but we've had two go out in one year (one literally today), and it saved our butts. Latest one had the nail nice and crosswise into the sidewall.
@sixtyfiveford it was definitely a great roll ngl. And I grew up in the Philippines. Vulcanizing is a corner shop deal there, but thankyou for spreading the knowledge.
I have several questions: 1) Tire places won't mess with sidewalls - is this just the labor cost, as you mentioned, or is there any safety concern. (That is, is a repair like this ok for highway speeds? 2) On that note, does the wheel have to be re-balanced after? 3) Your track repair near the end makes me wonder, could a person make their own tracks by cutting+stitiching existing (snowmobile, probably) tracks?
The first thing you have to realize is the entire automotive industry is run off of fear-mongering. Irrational mentions of doom and destruction, death and financial ruin; if you don't service, repair, refill, flush, or follow their guidelines to a T even if it doesn't coincide with what the manufacturer says. 1) First, nobody is trained to do it. Second, the process can take upwards of an hour of Hands-On time which is around $200 shop rate. Third, there's more money in fear-mongering and just telling somebody they need to buy a new $200 tire that only cost them $50. You know what if you're replacing one, you might as well replace all 4...... Safety concerns.... It really depends on the tire and the damage. A passenger car tire is paper thin and can barely hold its own weight to begin with. An LT truck tire is way more substantial and can take 10 times the abuse. A semi truck tire is nearly indestructible and could be repaired over and over. What I'm saying is there has to be common sense and a skill set already in place for these repairs to happen. Someone that knows what will work and what won't. Problem is all the guys that used to do this in the US haven't done this since the '80-90s and are all gone. 2) A tire needs to be rebalanced every 3,000 mi according to the superwise tire shops..... I promise they're not in business just to make money...... So would this need to be rebalanced, yes. 3) Absolutely. You would want to make your own custom jigs to be able to do a full track width at a time. This repair is done in the US for conveyor belts at rock, quarries etc. A track is essentially a conveyor belt with lugs.
@@sixtyfivefordthat is spot on man. I recall my first few days as a new mechanic at an auto shop. $7 rotors sold for $50. Tires marked up 50-70%. I was floored. This was back in the early 2000’s. Also young and stupid. Those few years in that shop taught me so many things.
Sooo cool, Moe! I have seen the vids of the third world folks doing these repairs, I had no idea that was a legit repair. No I know. /thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us!
Get yourself one of those carbon felt welding/plumbing torch blankets to store the heat in, use it to weld or torch too. I can arc weld over quite a few objects with a 6 millimeter thick blanket.
Mid-70's in a "real" gas station, very similar patching done. Against the instructions, on the advice of the older guys that worked there, we'd light the glue on fire after applying it. Dried the glue faster and warmed the rubber. Peel and lay on the patch, work it on good with the Stitching roller (looked similar to Mo's home-made thing) and charge them ... $3.50. You wouldn't believe the guys who complained about that after we went up from $2.50. I haven't seen a buffing wheel since then, and got all nostalgic when Mo opened with it.
Yes and no. It would really depend on the severity and direction of cut. sub 1" and a repair would be successful. Over that and more cords have been cut and more reinforcements need to take place. Over 2-3" and a typical Radial tire is just too weak to start with to hold any repair.
Back in the day they used those a lot at roadside shops for tire repair. Not sure why they stopped doing that. I actually make casting molds (for pewter) from unvulcanized rubber. I have a large floor plate vulcanizer I use. You can't fix a tire with it but it's fun. I need a smaller one. It's for sale (cheap) to anyone that wants it. It weighs 500lbs though.
Excellent, counter landfill economy of wastoids, detailed instruction! Man, been waiting for a video like this. Seems like the earlier RUclips had a video or two of or maybe was like done when people traveling abroad and not specifically the more I think about. Yes, seems like I saw once or twice of people traveling abroad with their vehicles. Wondering if those teflon sandwich toaster bags would work as a resist layer as well or like oven non stick teflon pads? Man, if could somehow level unevenly worn tires like with the cross slide grinder method or other would be an interesting video. Anyways, keep it up. Thanks for sharing!
The aluminum sheet sticking really isn't a big deal, you just don't want to put the die directly on. I would think Teflon would stick about the same way where you would have to force it to come off as you're putting that clamp under probably 1000-2000 plus pounds of pressure.
Thats cool! Once Again, excellent information sir! I must say though, you are HARD on tires. I have done alot of off roading and 4 wheeling with quads etc , never Have I seen such tire carnage 🤪
damn i wish this came out a couple weeks ago. someone popped one of my font tires in my driveway. i just used self vulcanizing cement and a thin store-bought patch. its stayed sealed so far, but your patch looks way stronger. what do you think of self vulcanizing tire glue? im curious because im really hoping my patch doesnt fail on me lol
Great Video 👍.....🤔 Maybe find some nylon screen made out of that same tire string material. Or maybe kevlar screen fabric would also work & sew into the hole.
I knew the word “vulcanized”. Saw it all the time for tire advertising back in the ’50’s onwards. I always thought it just meant heat - didn’t realize it also meant pressure. Kinda like rubber diamonds!
Would the vulcanizing glue fix my lawn tractor dry rotted tires? I tried making a homemade "slime" using motor oil and ground rubber....works on some, will it last, I doubt it.
Interesting thought. I think it would be too soft. The premise behind the oil in homemade slime recipes is to swell the rubber. I think gasoline would do a much better job. I will say the tire buffer I use puts off a ton of perfect fine rubber dust. I was saving it there for a while and have a baggie somewhere. Mix that with some gasoline and a little bit of oil. Or maybe even diesel fuel?
Love this video, gonna subscribe. When you said the aluminum sticks to the rubber, I was wondering if you had tried parchment paper? If you said what temperature the heating elements were, I missed it while writing this, lol
These heating elements turn off/on at 300F /150C. The aluminum sheets I use aren't that difficult to remove I just mention it because it's something to be mindful of vs accidentally applying the die directly to the tire(you can still pry those off, it's just difficult). You wouldn't want to introduce any wax or in the case of parchment paper, silicone into the molten rubber.
Do that same knot but put the string through the loop on the square knot part 3 times. It's a popular knot for fishing I forgot the name, but it holds extremely hard and allows you to pull the knot in like you want.
Yes and no. All the strength is in the cordage/string. The problem with a belt is all the cords are running with the belt and there is really nothing to grab/stitch too. Could you make it work? Likely, but I can't imagine the belt would be anywhere as strong as original.
If I have a full set of MasterCrafter Courser Mxt’s with gashes in all of them. Would I be better off vulcanizing them or fixing them with the “trail repair” method you posted about a year back I am limited on finances and tools but don’t wanna toss these tires!!!
@@indy4030 The glue method works well but I have had a few fail and had to redo it. I feel pretty comfortable doing up to about a 2-in gash. The cost out of pocket for that is right around 25ish bucks to do two dozen repairs. I have my original repair that I keep on the front left from that video that has probably a thousand miles on it. I did do the inside as well but the outside patch has never pulled off. The glue is a must but I also really recommend the rasp that goes in the drill/die grinder that's around 10 bucks. Makes this whole process way easier. The vulcanizing method is a more stable repair/ permanent. You can do far greater damage up to probably 4 inches. The cost out of pocket is closer to $150-180, but that would probably do 100 repairs. The vulcanizing machine itself is about 120 bucks. The rubber is right around 30 to 40. Most of the other tools could be improvised.
Yes. you can just use bead sealer when remounting and that takes care of most small damage. You can pinch a chunk of bicycle inner tube between the damage and rim(bead sealer also helps here). Or if the flap is still there you can glue it back into place with super glue. Just try to make the damaged area seat first when airing up.
I actually have some. They were the exact same principle. You have cushion gum and the little flammable disc in the metal pan that's supposed to be clamped down.
Do you know if pr40 would patch a cracked fuel tank on a string trimmer ? I do not know what kind of plastic it is. Does the pr40 go bad and harden in the bottle?
It will not hold back fuel. It will harden with moisture, so a bottle will eventually harden in a year or two depending if it's been open to the atmosphere,
I wonder if you can try just using one side of that machine to repair a bicycyle tube or an atv tube? How would you use it for that also? Im very intrested in getting one for repairing my motorized bike tubes. would it work?
I have done a handful of tubes now as well. You just use one heating element and it takes about 15 to 20 minutes. You can do massive tears with this method and aren't limited to just little pinpricks like a patch. I even went as far as making some custom tooling to put brand new valve stems on tubes.
@@sixtyfiveford Show us, make some videos! Im loving the tire repair stuff. id love to see if its possible to remould a section of bicycle tire that has a flat skid mark on it. Id like to see you remould the treat portion and test it to see if it wears as evenly as the rest of the tire. :)
Get a cheap needle driver or two and learn the simple interrupted instrument tie, it's a square knot. Super fast, used for 99% of superficial lacs. If there is lots of tension, you can wrap the first throw twice and cinch down on the "post" side of the thread to help hold in place until you get the next opposing one down to lock in the tension. This is much easier with threaded cord. Edit: You can also add in locking stitches, where each stitch is threaded under the loop of the preceding one on the surface of the work first, before pulling the throw tight. If only tying one knot this helps prevent catastrophic failure if that knot fails.
Have you had any luck with repairing blisters in non high way tires like small tractor tires with this?? Yes it's impossible to find information on repair of this nature liability ect and yes labor costs. I would have liked to repair my two front tractor tires with blisters they were just a year old.
I generally call them tire bubbles. They are caused by the inside rubber abrading and exposing the nylon cord. Air travels from the inside of the tire up the cord and inflates the passage where the cord would sit. You can just mark it, take the tire off and view from the inside. If you can see where it's entering from the inside to the cord you can put a patch over it. This is generally caused by hitting something hard and pinching the rubber against the rim and whatever you hit.
Question, could I repair SUV tire that has a screw hole right at the edge of tread and start of roll of side wall of tire? Brand new tire less then 1,000 miles on it? TIA
A gas or something like that in the sidewall would have me questioning or repair . A screw hole, I wouldn't even think twice about repairing that on a car tire.
20 years ago I use to jump right to a tube in scenarios like this but that has changed. The main thing is future puncture resistance is gone with a tube. You can't plug a simple nail hole. It becomes an hour long process, to remove the tire/tube and patch it. A situation like this could be handled with a tube. You would just need to find a $10 reinforced sidewall patch and then install a $40-50 tube and your good.
Obviously you and Ginger have an acquaintance with the tiny sasquatch who is messing with your tires at the end. She had no reaction to it other than a passing how-do-you-do. She was interested in getting back on the trail, and she knew what you were saying as she was so attentive to every word. Put her on a plane or send me a future puppy. She is one smart lady, and they are hard to find. I never thought I would be interested in something like this, but I think fixing tractor tires is not so far-fetched using this also. Many tractors get punctures from rocks and sticks. You are a farmer's friend when fixing things quickly is needed. If you want to get that harvest in and all the stores are closed but a punctured tire is all that stands between you and success, this is the way to go. Good Demonstration.
For the Surgeon's knot, you'd need hemostats, colloquially known as a roach clip. Consider horizontal mattress, running and interrupted as search terms.
I have had very mixed results with the 3M Scotch-Weld PR40. Basically your patch piece needs to have the exact same profile as the tire itself or else you won't get good adhesion.
With rubber I find the surface has to be sanded/scuffed for good adhesion. Acetone also helps temporarily soften and clean the surface and you get a better bond.
Try putting heat resistant Teflon tape on the steel can cover and it should come right off. I work it the cheese packaging industry and all the sealing elements have this replaceable tape. It comes in different width rolls.
For guys like me who just love learning how to fix stuff, one of the best channels on RUclips. Never a bad video.
Mad respect for this man.
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This guy has singlehandedly changed my view on working on my own stuff!! Great work!
Great to hear!
Brother you are such a Gem on RUclips, just a wealth of knowledge, I really appreciate your knowhow and sharing it with us all, You are Never to Old to Learn Anything.
God Bless you and sweet Ginger❤
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I like how you reference "if you've seen in 3rd world repair videos". I've seen those, they are clever, as is this video. Instead of the wheel roller, you can just use the edge of a soup can and roll the edge back and forth while putting pressure. Olden days (1970s) tire tube patch kits were sturdy cardboard with metal bottom and metal screw on cap and you'd roll the hard bottom rim of that kit back and forth to grind in the pressure.
Agreed! I rolled plenty of bike tubes in the 70s. 👍👍
And the lid was serrated to use to rough up the tube surface!
@@Rein_Ciarfella It most certainly was!
This was a terrific video. I work on a military base as a contractor, and some of our heavy equipment have tires that are very expensive, and we get shrapnel punctures daily. I am all over this technique. Thanks for the clinic!!!
That outro was priceless! Mini Baby Sasquatch trying to poke a hole with the wrong end of the pike! Then spliced into the same sequence Ginger going through, on the scent. Looks like you’re having way too much fun in editing! 😂👍
You do good work. Most people are too lazy to put in the effort that you put into a repair. I like that fix things rather than throwing stuff away.
The look on Ginger's face was precious 😍.
Thanks. It's funny that Ginger gives me the utmost attention when I start talking to her. Has no idea what I'm saying but, acts like it... What a good sport!.
@sixtyfiveford
Ginger is a keeper, she always makes me smile.😂
@@sixtyfiveford That's just more evidence supporting my contention that when they say dog is man's best friend they mean men not mankind. Why? Because when a man speaks, a dog is the only creature that looks at him as if he is saying the most amazing things.
Back in the 70’s, I worked in a farm machinery dealer shop. We had vulcanizing pads that we would repair tractor tires with. You lay them over a patch that was similar to a tire boot. We would soak the heating pad with lighter fluid and light them with a match. It would burn out in 30-40 seconds. You remove it from the tire and you have a perfect patch. Your video brought that repair to mind.
Interesting!
My god, this guy can fix literally anything. I never would have attempted this had I not seen this video, but after... I'd consider trying it for sure
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You proved how much this process has saved you by showing ONE tire and track repair at the end. That's $ in the bank all day long man! 👍👍
Exceptionally well explained video. My brother moved to the Philippines and in just the few short months he's been driving there has has 6 to 8 repairs completed. Like you mentioned, the labor is so cheap that the repairs make sense.
I actually had quite a bit of help learning this from people from the Philippines. One guy in particular runs a shop down there. I bent his ear more than he wanted to teach me.
@@sixtyfiveford It's a small world.
Great video, like you said there are a million repairs done in this fashion in the world where labor is cheap and parts are expensive or non-existent . Enjoyed very much . Congratulations on the subs, life is good.
Another viewer here who never realized this was a thing! This is giving me ideas for all sorts of other applications not connected with tires or tracks.
Awesome video it’s awesome to see this art of tire repair is not lost completely I used to do this in the 80s and 90s when I worked at a tire shop but it soon disappeared because of like you said the labor cost its funny know you take a tire in to get it fixed a lot of big box stores won’t fix the tire if there is a nail with in a inch of the side wall it’s just pathetic
Thank you, enjoyed...
I remember the old burn on patches...
Dad still has the old clamp we used to fix flats with on the farm, but no sulfur pads or patches.
For anyone who’s interested, I recently purchased a similar bead breaker off Amazon for $36 and used it successfully on a large zero turn tire. It’s pretty heavy but built really well.
Got a link for it?
As inflation continues out of control , your videos are more relevant every day👍 vote accordingly …tis the season🇺🇸
wow, I have installed a lot of tire plugs and patches but this is a whole different level of repair, i'm impressed
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I'm baffled by the number of times you've poked holes in your sidewalls! ; )
@@mjktrash Narrow gullies/canyons with sharp granite boulders on each side. Generally, they're V'd out as well for water to run down the middle, so you're really only running on the outside edges of your tires.
To get tire bead broken I've laid it on the driveway and then drive my pickup onto the tire. Works well.
You must have lived several lifetimes before this one to learn all this stuff. You never cease to amaze! Have you considered adding a tiny bit of elemental sulfur powder before the heat treatment? Supposedly, that is how they do the original "Vulcanizing". The Sulfur forms crosslinks between the rubber polymer molecules. Nut sure if it would help on a repair or not.
The cushion gum already has that in it. The sulfur was added when they were using rubber straight from the tree.
Fantastic repair. If I was doing a lot of off-roading, I would certainly invest in one of these vulcanising units, as it really is a money saver. Thanks for sharing
thanks again Moe for saving people lots of money. I never knew they could be patched.
MM77 Approved 👍🏼 👍🏼…………………………………………………………………..The commercial before the “ Ginger Show “ is getting ssssooooooo long!! LOL 😆
Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. You're damn near a genius.
Mostly when he stands near Ginger ... 😆 JK! I'd kill to have Mo as a neighbor, most clever repair guy I've ever seen.
Never knew this was even a thing. Great video!
That Sasquatch hunt at the end... LOLZ!!!
Thank you (as always) for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
As a parachute packer…a surgeons knot with locking knots on the running ends. It’s nylon so it’s slick. Good job thanks for sharing
Man thats great to know about making the vulcanizing glue yourself with the cushion gum. If I can remember to keep fresh gum in stock, that would work way better because I only patch stuff once a year or so.
The older I get the less I want to buy new things, and rather fix the old stuff. Thanks for your videos.
About 1983 I saved up and bought a new set of eagle st for my 442 and immediately tore hole in my sidewall. None of big shops would touch it ,I found a old man tire shop and he vulcanized it for me. Kinda ugly but I never had a problem with it
I have a tractor tire that's been waiting for this video. Thanks
very informative vid , as always . i have been wanting to know about this type of repair before but as you mentioned , no one uses this in our parts of the world , im from denmark and kind of poor since everything over here cost arm and legs so its ggood to have knowledge of things all over , thanx a heep , and by the way ,i think your dog is friends with the sas!!
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Haha, sasquatch cameo was great!
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This man is a genius
i was thinking instead of tin cans you could use silicon baking sheets.. its thinner more flexible and may let more heat permeate. thoughts? Fantastic info as always
I did your other method, and while it wasn't leaking yet, my scissor lift had a slice on one tire. I sanded it and super glued a piece of rubber onto it, after gluing the slice back, and sanded it and it looks like your tire. Thanks!
Great job!
We use to have a tire shop in our town that made recap tires an also did vulcanizing repairs for off road tires then in the late 1960s vulcanizing repairs became illegal to do because of radial tires and people doing repairs on street legal tires the shop I spoke of repaired thousands of tires using the reinforced rubber never saw a failure of the repair
yes, the end skit was absolutely worth doing!
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Awesome content, never even knew about this being possible. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Glad you liked it!
This was a really cool repair. Thank you for sharing your skills knowledge and experience. I appreciate you. And Ginger
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Normally wouldn't recommend tire protection plans, but we've had two go out in one year (one literally today), and it saved our butts. Latest one had the nail nice and crosswise into the sidewall.
It's a gamble and you won. To stay on top, never buy the warranty again as the odds are way against you. Worse odds than Vegas .
@sixtyfiveford it was definitely a great roll ngl. And I grew up in the Philippines. Vulcanizing is a corner shop deal there, but thankyou for spreading the knowledge.
I have several questions:
1) Tire places won't mess with sidewalls - is this just the labor cost, as you mentioned, or is there any safety concern. (That is, is a repair like this ok for highway speeds?
2) On that note, does the wheel have to be re-balanced after?
3) Your track repair near the end makes me wonder, could a person make their own tracks by cutting+stitiching existing (snowmobile, probably) tracks?
The first thing you have to realize is the entire automotive industry is run off of fear-mongering. Irrational mentions of doom and destruction, death and financial ruin; if you don't service, repair, refill, flush, or follow their guidelines to a T even if it doesn't coincide with what the manufacturer says.
1) First, nobody is trained to do it. Second, the process can take upwards of an hour of Hands-On time which is around $200 shop rate. Third, there's more money in fear-mongering and just telling somebody they need to buy a new $200 tire that only cost them $50. You know what if you're replacing one, you might as well replace all 4...... Safety concerns.... It really depends on the tire and the damage. A passenger car tire is paper thin and can barely hold its own weight to begin with. An LT truck tire is way more substantial and can take 10 times the abuse. A semi truck tire is nearly indestructible and could be repaired over and over. What I'm saying is there has to be common sense and a skill set already in place for these repairs to happen. Someone that knows what will work and what won't. Problem is all the guys that used to do this in the US haven't done this since the '80-90s and are all gone.
2) A tire needs to be rebalanced every 3,000 mi according to the superwise tire shops..... I promise they're not in business just to make money...... So would this need to be rebalanced, yes.
3) Absolutely. You would want to make your own custom jigs to be able to do a full track width at a time. This repair is done in the US for conveyor belts at rock, quarries etc. A track is essentially a conveyor belt with lugs.
@@sixtyfiveford All of that is great info! Thank you so much for taking the time out to answer! (And also for making the video in the first place)
@@sixtyfivefordthat is spot on man. I recall my first few days as a new mechanic at an auto shop. $7 rotors sold for $50. Tires marked up 50-70%. I was floored. This was back in the early 2000’s. Also young and stupid. Those few years in that shop taught me so many things.
That was a great video! Have you tried using a high temp silicone baking sheet instead of the sheet metal? Where do you buy that roll of rubber from?
Sooo cool, Moe! I have seen the vids of the third world folks doing these repairs, I had no idea that was a legit repair. No I know. /thanks for sharing your vast knowledge with us!
Very impressed. Love the sasquatch bit at the end.
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Get yourself one of those carbon felt welding/plumbing torch blankets to store the heat in, use it to weld or torch too. I can arc weld over quite a few objects with a 6 millimeter thick blanket.
I used to vulcanize my bike tires and tubes as a kid starting at 6 years old. Grandpa showed me all the tricks.
Mid-70's in a "real" gas station, very similar patching done. Against the instructions, on the advice of the older guys that worked there, we'd light the glue on fire after applying it. Dried the glue faster and warmed the rubber. Peel and lay on the patch, work it on good with the Stitching roller (looked similar to Mo's home-made thing) and charge them ... $3.50. You wouldn't believe the guys who complained about that after we went up from $2.50. I haven't seen a buffing wheel since then, and got all nostalgic when Mo opened with it.
Moe, it looked like you applied some layers without using the DIY adhesive. Does it matter?
You don't need the mixture between layers.
Pakistan mechanic videos. I have watched many. Great repair.
Great fix Thanks TANK what about slashed truck tires if done properly ?
Yes and no. It would really depend on the severity and direction of cut. sub 1" and a repair would be successful. Over that and more cords have been cut and more reinforcements need to take place. Over 2-3" and a typical Radial tire is just too weak to start with to hold any repair.
Thank you for sharing, another great video, i learn a lot, you are a great teacher and your explanation are awesome 👍👍👍👍
Thank you!
Awesome video, will definitely be using this method. Thanks man, as always
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Back in the day they used those a lot at roadside shops for tire repair. Not sure why they stopped doing that. I actually make casting molds (for pewter) from unvulcanized rubber. I have a large floor plate vulcanizer I use. You can't fix a tire with it but it's fun. I need a smaller one. It's for sale (cheap) to anyone that wants it. It weighs 500lbs though.
Excellent, counter landfill economy of wastoids, detailed instruction! Man, been waiting for a video like this. Seems like the earlier RUclips had a video or two of or maybe was like done when people traveling abroad and not specifically the more I think about. Yes, seems like I saw once or twice of people traveling abroad with their vehicles. Wondering if those teflon sandwich toaster bags would work as a resist layer as well or like oven non stick teflon pads? Man, if could somehow level unevenly worn tires like with the cross slide grinder method or other would be an interesting video. Anyways, keep it up. Thanks for sharing!
The aluminum sheet sticking really isn't a big deal, you just don't want to put the die directly on. I would think Teflon would stick about the same way where you would have to force it to come off as you're putting that clamp under probably 1000-2000 plus pounds of pressure.
Thanks for bringing this to us. This information is difficult to come by, as though it is suppressed. I will put it to good use.
Thats cool! Once Again, excellent information sir!
I must say though, you are HARD on tires. I have done alot of off roading and 4 wheeling with quads etc , never Have I seen such tire carnage 🤪
Nice video, and very cool ending.
That's pretty cool. I never knew about that stuff before. Nice.
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damn i wish this came out a couple weeks ago. someone popped one of my font tires in my driveway. i just used self vulcanizing cement and a thin store-bought patch. its stayed sealed so far, but your patch looks way stronger. what do you think of self vulcanizing tire glue? im curious because im really hoping my patch doesnt fail on me lol
Great Video 👍.....🤔 Maybe find some nylon screen made out of that same tire string material. Or maybe kevlar screen fabric would also work & sew into the hole.
As always, I enjoy your videos because they cover every day home garage shop repairs. Plus I really like Ginger who is such a cutie! Thanks Moe!
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Great repair.
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Stay well, Joe Z
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@@sixtyfiveford You're welcome
I knew the word “vulcanized”. Saw it all the time for tire advertising back in the ’50’s onwards. I always thought it just meant heat - didn’t realize it also meant pressure. Kinda like rubber diamonds!
More info about the glue you made. Mine is just a chunky mess. Did you strain it out?
Takes a few days to completely dissolve.
Great video! Thank you so much Moe, and Ginger!
Would the vulcanizing glue fix my lawn tractor dry rotted tires? I tried making a homemade "slime" using motor oil and ground rubber....works on some, will it last, I doubt it.
Interesting thought. I think it would be too soft. The premise behind the oil in homemade slime recipes is to swell the rubber. I think gasoline would do a much better job. I will say the tire buffer I use puts off a ton of perfect fine rubber dust. I was saving it there for a while and have a baggie somewhere. Mix that with some gasoline and a little bit of oil. Or maybe even diesel fuel?
Love this video, gonna subscribe.
When you said the aluminum sticks to the rubber, I was wondering if you had tried parchment paper? If you said what temperature the heating elements were, I missed it while writing this, lol
These heating elements turn off/on at 300F /150C. The aluminum sheets I use aren't that difficult to remove I just mention it because it's something to be mindful of vs accidentally applying the die directly to the tire(you can still pry those off, it's just difficult). You wouldn't want to introduce any wax or in the case of parchment paper, silicone into the molten rubber.
Do that same knot but put the string through the loop on the square knot part 3 times. It's a popular knot for fishing I forgot the name, but it holds extremely hard and allows you to pull the knot in like you want.
I only come to see Ginger...and learn to fix a tire the right way..👍👍👍👍
Pretty slick, nice job!
My grandfather worked in a tire factory many decades ago and when I got one of his toolboxes after he passed every nook and cranny was full of carbon.
Think you could use this method to repair drive belts?
Yes and no. All the strength is in the cordage/string. The problem with a belt is all the cords are running with the belt and there is really nothing to grab/stitch too. Could you make it work? Likely, but I can't imagine the belt would be anywhere as strong as original.
If I have a full set of MasterCrafter Courser Mxt’s with gashes in all of them. Would I be better off vulcanizing them or fixing them with the “trail repair” method you posted about a year back I am limited on finances and tools but don’t wanna toss these tires!!!
@@indy4030 The glue method works well but I have had a few fail and had to redo it. I feel pretty comfortable doing up to about a 2-in gash. The cost out of pocket for that is right around 25ish bucks to do two dozen repairs. I have my original repair that I keep on the front left from that video that has probably a thousand miles on it. I did do the inside as well but the outside patch has never pulled off. The glue is a must but I also really recommend the rasp that goes in the drill/die grinder that's around 10 bucks. Makes this whole process way easier.
The vulcanizing method is a more stable repair/ permanent. You can do far greater damage up to probably 4 inches. The cost out of pocket is closer to $150-180, but that would probably do 100 repairs. The vulcanizing machine itself is about 120 bucks. The rubber is right around 30 to 40. Most of the other tools could be improvised.
👍 Thumbs up for the sasquatch. I got a chuckle from it.
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Any thoughts or tricks on repairing a bead damaged bead unmounting a tire tears off a section of rubber?
Yes. you can just use bead sealer when remounting and that takes care of most small damage. You can pinch a chunk of bicycle inner tube between the damage and rim(bead sealer also helps here). Or if the flap is still there you can glue it back into place with super glue. Just try to make the damaged area seat first when airing up.
@@sixtyfiveford cool, appreciate the suggestions!
Great repair video!!! Do you remember Hot Monkey patches? Those were the greatest.
I actually have some. They were the exact same principle. You have cushion gum and the little flammable disc in the metal pan that's supposed to be clamped down.
@@sixtyfiveford Righ on, used to use them to patch bicyle tire all the time.
Do you know if pr40 would patch a cracked fuel tank on a string trimmer ? I do not know what kind of plastic it is. Does the pr40 go bad and harden in the bottle?
It will not hold back fuel. It will harden with moisture, so a bottle will eventually harden in a year or two depending if it's been open to the atmosphere,
I wonder if you can try just using one side of that machine to repair a bicycyle tube or an atv tube? How would you use it for that also? Im very intrested in getting one for repairing my motorized bike tubes. would it work?
I have done a handful of tubes now as well. You just use one heating element and it takes about 15 to 20 minutes. You can do massive tears with this method and aren't limited to just little pinpricks like a patch. I even went as far as making some custom tooling to put brand new valve stems on tubes.
@@sixtyfiveford Show us, make some videos! Im loving the tire repair stuff. id love to see if its possible to remould a section of bicycle tire that has a flat skid mark on it. Id like to see you remould the treat portion and test it to see if it wears as evenly as the rest of the tire. :)
Impressive demo
Get a cheap needle driver or two and learn the simple interrupted instrument tie, it's a square knot. Super fast, used for 99% of superficial lacs.
If there is lots of tension, you can wrap the first throw twice and cinch down on the "post" side of the thread to help hold in place until you get the next opposing one down to lock in the tension. This is much easier with threaded cord.
Edit: You can also add in locking stitches, where each stitch is threaded under the loop of the preceding one on the surface of the work first, before pulling the throw tight. If only tying one knot this helps prevent catastrophic failure if that knot fails.
I just super glued a small cut (no missing rubber) in the sidewall. It's been holding alright. The main thing is for it not to spread.
Really good job my friend 👍👍
Have you had any luck with repairing blisters in non high way tires like small tractor tires with this?? Yes it's impossible to find information on repair of this nature liability ect and yes labor costs. I would have liked to repair my two front tractor tires with blisters they were just a year old.
I generally call them tire bubbles. They are caused by the inside rubber abrading and exposing the nylon cord. Air travels from the inside of the tire up the cord and inflates the passage where the cord would sit. You can just mark it, take the tire off and view from the inside. If you can see where it's entering from the inside to the cord you can put a patch over it. This is generally caused by hitting something hard and pinching the rubber against the rim and whatever you hit.
Question, could I repair SUV tire that has a screw hole right at the edge of tread and start of roll of side wall of tire? Brand new tire less then 1,000 miles on it? TIA
A gas or something like that in the sidewall would have me questioning or repair . A screw hole, I wouldn't even think twice about repairing that on a car tire.
Are tubes in those tires helpful?
That's a good question.
20 years ago I use to jump right to a tube in scenarios like this but that has changed. The main thing is future puncture resistance is gone with a tube. You can't plug a simple nail hole. It becomes an hour long process, to remove the tire/tube and patch it. A situation like this could be handled with a tube. You would just need to find a $10 reinforced sidewall patch and then install a $40-50 tube and your good.
Obviously you and Ginger have an acquaintance with the tiny sasquatch who is messing with your tires at the end. She had no reaction to it other than a passing how-do-you-do. She was interested in getting back on the trail, and she knew what you were saying as she was so attentive to every word. Put her on a plane or send me a future puppy. She is one smart lady, and they are hard to find.
I never thought I would be interested in something like this, but I think fixing tractor tires is not so far-fetched using this also. Many tractors get punctures from rocks and sticks. You are a farmer's friend when fixing things quickly is needed. If you want to get that harvest in and all the stores are closed but a punctured tire is all that stands between you and success, this is the way to go. Good Demonstration.
The hardest part is just taking the tractor tire off the rim.
Another great video. Keep them coming.
Thanks, will do!
What is your mold made out of ?
@@sojournsojourntraveler1203 Aluminum
Are you wearing your safety sandals?
I'm still learning the ways of the 3rd world.
For the Surgeon's knot, you'd need hemostats, colloquially known as a roach clip. Consider horizontal mattress, running and interrupted as search terms.
I have had very mixed results with the 3M Scotch-Weld PR40. Basically your patch piece needs to have the exact same profile as the tire itself or else you won't get good adhesion.
With rubber I find the surface has to be sanded/scuffed for good adhesion. Acetone also helps temporarily soften and clean the surface and you get a better bond.
Another great video thank you for making it🙏🏻
Glad you enjoyed it!
I could already envision other uses for that bigass C-clamp!
Wow I always thought the r stood for rim size u telling me I’m wrong?
@@coreywalker2656 R stands for Radial. If it was a Bias Ply it would have a B or D or sometimes just a dash -.
Try putting heat resistant Teflon tape on the steel can cover and it should come right off. I work it the cheese packaging industry and all the sealing elements have this replaceable tape. It comes in different width rolls.
great ending, darn sasquatch.
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oohhh smart tires ... last long and prosper... emotionless...
Id kill for peak inside your toolbox and definitely more of your homemade tools
Thanks I like the outro!!
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