Tale of 2 Peru piraiba catfish, assertive & skittish, 5 yo 2.5ft/75cm, compatibility issues, tricks
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- Our thread on Brachyplatystoma filamentosum aka piraiba catfish on the MFK: www.monsterfis...
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Naples, Florida 34114
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The following are some of the fish we actually work with, not "fake keywords to drive traffic": South American red tail catfish (SA RTC), Asian RTC (ARTC), tiger shovelnose catfish (TSN), RTC x TSN catfish hybrid, TSN x marbled catfish hybrid, ripsaw or niger catfish, irwini catfish, wyckii catfish, lima shovelnose catfish, sun catfish, marbled catfish, marbled sailfin, any large South American (Pimelodidae, Doradidae, etc.) or Asian (Pangasiidae, Bagridae) catfish, iridescent shark catfish, paroon shark catfish, black ear shark catfish, synodontis catfish, mystus catfish, pacu, arowana, giant gourami, eel, spiny eel, blue catfish, channel catfish, flathead catfish, bullhead catfish, white catfish, gar, peacock bass, datnoid, koi, distichodus species, mahseer, probarbus, labeo, black shark, calico shark, bala shark, tinfoil barb, Chinese high fin shark, any large cyprinids and characins, pleco catfish, bichir, knife fish, loach, piranha (legal in Florida, such as, red hook, silver dollar, etc.), barbel, barb, perch, pike, carp, sturgeon, beluga sturgeon, wels catfish, Indo-Pacific tarpon, Aral or Caspian barbel, cichlid, African cichlid, dovii, jaguar cichlid, midas cichlid, vieja cichlid, Texas cichlid, carpintis cichlid, bowfin, redfish, giant Siamese carp, tinfoil, lemon fin barb, small scale mud carp, piraiba catfish, tig catfish, tilapia, Mayan cichlid, leporinus, Prochlodus, flagtail, etc.
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I can't wait to get more room for my rescue fish, you're super lucky you have the space , I can't wait until I move to a bigger place!
Thank you. Good luck to you, albeit what we have hasn't come to us by mere luck, still plenty to be grateful for.
I find it amazing that with all those different catfish in there the piraiba picks on his own kind, they can't see
They don't need to see at all. They know their surroundings by taste / smell.
Always awesome content and great info love the channel keep up the good work
WOW .... nice 💯💪
Wish you and all your fishes a very Happy New year in advance ❤️🎉
:) Thank you, same to you :)
Can wait to see update on the Big boss. Hope he is okay. He is my favorite fish from your collection.
Thank you. I am not sure though who the Big boss is... the Suriname piraiba?
I meant the Black Devil. I saw other comments and very sad and sorry to hear it passed away. Hopefully you will have one more soon. Any update on the new corner tank?
Yes, it was heartbreaking for me too. They are so hard to find these days, IDK why... Used to be $5 at so many stores 10 years ago. Nowadays, big specimen and big prices like $150-$200 for 10"-14". ... The corner tank had no work done since the last and only video. Need to open for business first and then start saving the $$$ for the $7K-14K front window.
Thanks for sharing. How is the Wyckii doing? Hope everyone is having a healthy and happy holidays.
Thank you. Unfortunately not everyone. The wyckii passed. Been losing many fish like this over the years. My only two guesses are [1] the sump is too dirty and hence the count of normally manageable bacteria in the water column is too high for the fish immune systems to handle (solution: I need to clean the 15,000 gal sump filter more often than once a year) or [2] some pathogen is ever-present in this system of tanks and the filter and the pathogen sooner or later sickens and kills residents (one potential solution is installing a UV sanitizer; another is quarantining and treating the incoming rescue fish more thoroughly; third is wiping out the system clean and starting over).
@@Fish-Story OH NOOooooooooooooooo!!!! That's a real bummer. There's a lot of fish in there, stress could be a contributing factor.
Thank you. It was tough. There will be a closure. Video, thread post, etc.
I remember seeing that Wyckii in it's own tank, I would've never imagined that it would fit in a community tank lol. Still surprised to see it swimming along in there after so much time. I did like it in it's own tank since it made it appear more special, but I'm sure it's more content in the bigger tank with tankmates/food haha.
Thank you. Yes, the 240 was too small for it. It needed at least 500 or better 1000 gal. So yes, our visitors and I were able to play with it in the 240 gal and we missed it a lot. But it was much happier in the 4500 gal and relaxed losing perhaps 95% of its bad attitude toward tank mates... But sadly it passed. Been losing many fish like this over the years. My only two guesses are [1] the sump is too dirty and hence the count of normally manageable bacteria in the water column is too high for the fish immune systems to handle (solution: I need to clean the 15,000 gal sump filter more often than once a year) or [2] some pathogen is ever-present in this system of tanks and the filter and the pathogen sooner or later sickens and kills residents (one potential solution is installing a UV sanitizer; another is quarantining and treating the incoming rescue fish more thoroughly; third is wiping out the system clean and starting over).
love this tank
Love the Pariba. Amazing how fast the Suriname grow compared to the others.
From 1sthand experience, I can only speak for Peru and Suriname piraiba. Our Suriname so far outgrew the Peru duo by 2x and the disparity seems to grow with years.
Seems like I am the first one here today
There were always 3 Paraiba Catfish?
Yes. The 2x bigger Suriname piraiba lives in the other 4500 gal.
Hey brother, that sucks with the second piariba getting bullied like that. Keeping multiple same specie cats together especially piariba and their like is always a risk. U have many tigs together so they don't single one another out. I would consider getting a small pop up pool for him or putting him into the big acrylic tank but that is risky for the current residents in there. Big fish equals big problems. I see ur thought process on the fish loss u have been having and cleaning out the big sump would be a good start. Even siphoning out as much detris as possible in the settling chamber is a good start and hopefully u get things under control. In mine I run a constant drip system and a 7' uv sterilizer as well. I also change the mechanical filtration often. I try my best to remove as much organics from the water as possible!
Thank you Phil. I agree. It sounds like you are running your tank exceedingly well. Much appreciate the tips and knowing your experience.
Yes, vacuuming the 15K sump is the asap on the list. I cut my arm bad, so couldn't get in the filth for a month already but as soon as the skin completely closes up, I plan to do it. The whole sump is the settling chamber; no dedicated mechanical filtration. You are right about removing detritus - the more and the faster, the better.
Keep us updated on the hemibagrus wycki , black devil. Definitely a favorite for sure...
Thank you. It passed. Been losing many fish like this over the years. My only two guesses are [1] the sump is too dirty and hence the count of normally manageable bacteria in the water column is too high for the fish immune systems to handle (solution: I need to clean the 15,000 gal sump filter more often than once a year) or [2] some pathogen is ever-present in this system of tanks and the filter and the pathogen sooner or later sickens and kills residents (one potential solution is installing a UV sanitizer; another is quarantining and treating the incoming rescue fish more thoroughly; third is wiping out the system clean and starting over).
@@Fish-Story adding a uv would be much easier that all of those options maybe half a system wipe and uv will help?
UV system that's needed for the size and flow is very expensive, or if DIY labor-intensive and still fairly expensive.
@@Fish-Story thats what i was thinkin
thats not capapretum, i had capa and filamentosum, urs is filamentosum
I agree with you (see our piraiba thread and our Dec 28 2021 post related to this video, if interested, containing a link to another MFK thread discussing this very issue). But I also can't yet explain the huge size/growth rate disparity between Suriname fila and Peru fila.
Hey Vic, so the big big Pariba in the other tank is much bigger then the older one in the 4500 the two are?
And would it be pretty much a death sentence to put one in the other tank?
Yes, and yes. The 7yo Suriname is 5ft. The two Peruvians are 2.5+ft. Either one of the Peruvians would be swiftly killed in the other 4500 gal by the jumbos.
First at all with a little late merry christmas :) . Good tips, thanks, just a quick question, why are the few cyprinids that are left in this aquarium not in the pond with the Kois? I just recovered 3 Mylopharyngodon piceus these are really interesting fish but probably prohibited in the USA :(
Thank you for this and glad to hear. Merry Christmas and happy New Year to you and yours! [1] The cyprinids had all been in the 25K, until some of them started to attack koi while others started to bother beluga sturgeon, yet some were too small and could be too easily eaten by the wels catfish, so out they went back into the 4500 gal - certain mahseer and the lemon fin tinfoil barb, others into 240 gal and 1800 gal - the black shark and the small scale mud carp. All others that are more peaceful and bigger are still in the 25K. [2] Nice! Yeah, black carp / black Amur is a very interesting fish to me. I've never seen it live and yes, they are prohibited in the USA along with the grass carp / white Amur, big head carp, and silver carp.
will adding decorations help?
I have never seen ur wel's catfish
It might help or might not, as these fish are not hiders but open water fish. I can't add furniture to some tanks, this is one of them. ... Mr Wels lived in a 240 gal and now lives in the 25K. We have posted videos on it.
@@Fish-Story oh
Do you know where you could get a piraiba to aus
Sorry, I've no clue. I doubt one could get a piraiba into Australia at all. At any rate, I've never seen Australian peers show piraiba in their tanks.
Why not put him/her in the koi tank/pool/aquarium?
Thank you. Can't place fish in the 25K that can puncture the rubber liner.
@@Fish-Story the piraiba have spines on their Fins?
Great question. You know what? I forgot to check. Tigs for instance do not have sharp spines. I assumed piraiba do but I could be wrong. Next time I get a chance, I'll net one and check. Thank you.
@@Fish-Story you might be right, had mine real stuck in a nett once. but it looks like the dont have the spines. i need to transfer my 2 piraiba soon i will check if they have it and let you know.
Thank you. That would be helpful!