Losing sucks, but I don't mind losing to a better team on the day. Our first half was embarrassing, we only started to play like World Champions in the second half. Congratulations to Ireland, they're an amazing team. They gave us a taste of our own medicine with a 1 point defeat.
@@Wildkardfor some reason “correct “ because Ireland basically beat the crap out of them. We were told of how great SA were to have the same turn out with no injuries but every big guy you had fell like flies 10 minutes in, I don’t think SA were fit hence they died in the first 10 minutes.
How disappointing an analysis .. after such a great game, what do we focus on .. the ref / TMO decisions.. and how you can say that Doris is looking at his leg is totally beyond me .. honestly I think it shows how biased you are & u need to reflect on that.
he was also pulling the leg towards to him before he dropped on it with his left hand. u really cant defend him with "he didn know where the leg was argument. "
What a game. All week I had this nasty feeling in my stomach, thinking that Ireland was going to throw the kitchen sink at us. The team announcements did nothing to comfort me; I looked at that team sheet thinking that Ireland might be stronger this week and it turns out I was right. Credit to Ireland for coming out swinging and bringing the fight to the Boks. It was an all out assault and it is a credit to the exceptional resilience of the Springboks to still be in the game at half time. Second half came, bomb squad came and we were without doubt the better side during that period. Thing with one point wins is this - both teams were very equal, but the one team was just able to do what was necessary to clinch it. Ireland did just that; despite being bested for almost the entire half, they were able to scratch and claw their way into the narrowest of leads at the latest of moments. Well done to this absolute champion side for the most exhilarating game of rugby played since the end lf the world cup. I know this is scant consolation, but Ireland proved that they definitely were good enough to win the world cup last year. Had they had one or two calls go their way, had they had jist a little more luck, had they pushed jist a little bit further, they could really have done it and tonight proved it. A series decider would have been nice but... I don't think my heart would have been able to hold out. I suspect a fair amount of Irish and South Africans would agree. Well done, Ireland. You've done yourselves proud.
Me too bro.. I knew that Ireland was somehow might win GUT FEELING. Loosing is not nice but it humbles you to be better next time. Its Ok to lose. Welldone to Ireland. To be honest the Boks have not been their best since last game at the world cup. Our rash defence has been sleeping from the Wales game and I think its because they implementing new game play.
@@motlhabanemedupe8635 The new game plan is exciting, but as you say, maybe the defense was slipping some because we were really caught sleeping a few times last week. Also, Willie Le Roux's absence. I'm a huge fan of Sacha an he played a great knock, but he was played out of position (for obvious reasons) and we did miss and old hard general like him last night.
Ireland deserved that win, better decision making, better under the high ball, better kicking and better all round execution. Boks scrum was great but never looked too threatening in open play. Well done Ireland! Wish we had a 3rd decider test!
@@Wildkard And don't forget how many Irish starters were missing. Some of the players on the field were 3rd/4th choice and they all stood up. Yes, SA are world cup champs but its worth remembering, the last 5 games between the sides, Ireland have 4 wins, SA have only 1.
As a bok supporter, Springbokd didnt deserve to win, they were too poor, if they wouldve won, it would be undeserved. We were not outplayed by any means, we just made stupid mistakes.
I definitely say Boks were outplayed, beautiful trick play to score Murray’s try just like Ireland did in the first test. Boks only scored penalty kicks and couldn’t get through the Irish defence - that’s definitely Boks being outplayed
@@kmclel1814 Outplayed? A trick rehearsed play bordeline obstruction since there was crossing and springboks were outplayed? Since when does a single try determine being outplayed? Springboks dominated the All blacks in 2009 without scoring a try. Springboks won 3 world Cups without scoring a try and Ireland none. Ireland were 10 points ahead and if Sacha let the ball go into touch, Springboks win the game...So nobody was being outolayed, it was an even game
As a South African I am disappointed but truly the Boks didn't deserve to win. Body language at the start said they were going to lose this game right from the start. Ireland rattled us physically 😮 Better we lost now than in the Rugby Championship.
The Boks rarely win the Rugby Championship. It will be won by New Zealand again. And Australia should be better this season so they could get 2nd which means Boks will be 3rd. But it's OK because Boks won the World Cup which is the most important tournament. Everything in between the Word Cup is just preparation for the next World Cup 😊
Thank you for highlighting important things in this video @wildkard. Not you are the only one who is speaking about Doris landing on Marx's leg. For anyone reading, that could have been a nasty injury regardless of whaever else happened in the game. It should've been red. How either teams played or what calls were made doesn't matter, what matters is that a player almost got injured on the same leg that was fresh out of an injury due to dangerous play and no red card was given for that.
Horrible video to watch. Your assessment of Dorris "attacking the limb" is insane. People fall on legs and heads and arms all the time unintentionally in rugby near a ruck when ones weight is no longer supported. Slow motion would redcard every player.
Agree, he’s already in motion and IMO releasing from would be roll where he looked in split second while already falling away is irrelevant, he can’t change direction at that point - slow no clip does no favours in situations like this. Agree with bin as not intentional but to suggest otherwise is more than subjective
@@Wildkard I get your point however I feel your subjective analysis on this is being deliberate is off. My ( and I would feel most who see this) opinion is Doris initially engages in a clearout on their hooker, but releases due to Ryan also engaging or rolling the same player. Doris is already low and falling with weight and force of James Ryan tackle coming through. It’s a rugby incident which was reviewed and Doris was carded based on it not being intentional. To claim straight red has to be based on your claim that Doris knew or intended to do harm. I feel this is where your fair points loose weight. I enjoy the channel and your breakdowns, just feel this specific focus as an argument for red is harsh when all else is taken into account on this phase of play.
Goeie dag Wildcard. All things aside, that was an epic test match and very well deserved victory for Ireland as they can go home holding their heads held high and I think this is just what the Boks needed before The Rugby Championship.
As a South African supporter in NZ, only watched the game now. Boks blew so many chances in first half and Ireland was better team in first half. Boks were better in first 30min of 2nd half. Ireland really did well with the defence. Good arm wrestle. Congrats Ireland - definitely deserved the win.
Throwing yourself purposely on someone's leg then pulling him over yourself is shocking... Should never be allowed in the game. Nz did the same thing to Bongi in the world Cup. Out the game for 8 months.
Here we go, didn’t the SA roll on kellahers leg last week and Ireland lost a try and SA were given a penalty. You’re wrong its a decision by the bunker your now saying there is noise reason to have a bunker. . I personally think you have just made an idiot out of yourself this was the best test by far of any over all these tests and you think it was most important to bring this shit up first. There were a lot more bad and costly decisions made last week and you were obviously found wanting. It seems this was all about your disappointment in the boks but little or no credit for an Irish team that are beaten SA for fun these days.
So how are you feeling about the fact that Dorris broke Marx's leg? Did the "roll" on the Irish player last week break his leg? How about the fact that the roll could quite possibly ruin Marx's career
Congratulations to Ireland. I think Springboks playing game in first half lost us the game. Second half seemed different plan but too little too late. Ireland was always in the game. Thank you Wildkard. Cheers from Durban.
Ireland brought the fire, amd the Boks seemed suprised by it, and rarely looked like winning. A few Bok egos need a reality check: Bongi, Faf, PSdT...the soccer dive by PSdT, and then having a go at the ref for penalising him was embarassing and shameful.
I don't think Doris was aiming for the leg, I think he tried to make a legitimate clearout, found himself falling to the side where, if he holds on, will get pinged for a crocodile role, so he lets go and comes down on the leg. He doesn't drive into the leg, that's just where he falls. But I do get your point, it is like throwing a punch or any other vicious act, its either a red or it's nothing, however if the offence is for recklessness for not trying to avoid the leg, then yes a yellow can be warranted
thats a good point if hes just being careless a yellow can be argued. i really felt he should have made a better attempt to avoid landing on the leg especially when he looked at it.
Thanks for addressing this. did I hear the ref say doris had little/less control of his fall because the 2nd row changed his momentum? And he knew it was Marx, who could rip the eye from a hurricane....I'm siding with Wildkard if only because doris looked sheepish on the sidelines ,0
@@Wildkard as Doris entered the ruck it moved and his momentum latched him on to Marx (who had come in at side and was illegal) look at the position of Ryan and Doris and how the roll happens it was a rugby incident and not malicious a card was correct call as even the TMO came back and said momentum and body positions of both Marx and Doris with Ryan made it a shitty incident.
@@ericdavison6186 "I'm siding with Wildkard if only because doris looked sheepish on the sidelines ,0" eh no, he was the captain and had just got sent off for 10 in the final quater of a test match that was in the balance ANY player would be upset with themselves or did that not cross your mind?
It was an absolute 'bloody' beast of a spectacle... an awesome game. Lots of mistakes from both sides, bit what a game... nail-biter. Wait, the next match will come... Boks out for revenge. I am stoked that we have a rivalry building now between us and Ireland...
The season is too long, fixture congestion needs to be fixed. Only a few weeks between Autumn Internationals and pre season training for the club season.
The only reason people are complaining about a third test is because the score is one each, if the results were two nil there would complaining about flogging the players
It hurts but must say well played to Ireland..Bokke far from the finished product and didn't see any of the new Tony Brown attack influence.In fact...we looked very flat on attack..Thx for a great series Ireland..wish there was a third Test
@theomoller6637 it's a yellow for the croc roll. Which is fair because it is dangerous and they're clamping down on it. Not deliberately targeting the lower limb so not a red
You're literally the only person complaining about the ref favouring Ireland. All the saffer fans and pùndits have been very gracious in defeat with no complaining whatsoever. They all agree that the best side won on the day. Wildkard, you need to do better.
@@Wildkard I watched the video, mate. As I said, do better. You're not even a saffer but you're always biased towards them. It's not a good look, especially when you're an Aussie.
I think Ireland are one of the few teams who can match the famed South African physicality. I think most other top teams would have lost both tests by at least 10 points in that feral atmosphere with the Boks on a revenge mission. No one over here thinks Ireland are better than the Boks. That's just the media hyping things up. I must admit I didn't think that this tour was a good idea. I thought our boys were already showing signs of fatigue in the league and and European competitions. I thought we would lose both tests and probably be hammered in one of them. Instead i think we have got much more positives than negatives. The first test we played quite poorly for half the game but managed to get ourselves back in contention. The second test was a big improvement. Main benefit for us was the emergence of Osborne as an alternative to Kennan and Frawley as a viable option at ten.
yeha these tours are there to build characters, the young 10s really stepped up one after another. i think winning and loosing is just a number the important part was the experience these players went through and it will be important for the rwc in 2027
Was impressed the Irish were so prepared to meet the physicality. A lot of teams just don't have the cattle to begin with or are flat out bullied out of it by the Boks. Irish understood the way to deal with that intimidation factor is meet it head on, gave them the platform to win this test.
The ridiculous call on the croc roll was that no 5 (Ryan) infringing was the mitigating factor. In what world does one crime cancel or minimise another crime.
After the ref awarded Ireland a penalty. The ref missed a Irish Lineout dummy. What's a Lineout dummy you ask? A Lineout dummy is where you pretend to throw the ball the first time and throw the ball on the second time. I was not expecting a Irish drop goal in the dying seconds of the match. South Africa weirdly enough refused to score any tries this match, and only did penalty kicks. So Ireland was the only team that was able to score the only try of the match.
That Malcom Marx situation was nothing compared to the Craig Cassey matter. At least someone was sent off this time (yellow card). The Craig Cassey situation should have been a red to Snyman, late tackle on a scrum half or at least a penalty to Ireland. Thats why there was so much blood in just the first 15mins of the first half.... Ireland were being revengeful for the previous game man.
If Ireland got the benefit in that decision then it goes some way to make up for Like Pierce.s disgraceful refereeing last week which cost Ireland the game.
@@Wildkard insults again from you, take a break from work mate, have a holiday, the comment was reasonable and even if you feel it's wrong why the insults!
All credit to Ireland, even after a loss last week and probably considered the underdogs they weren't intimidated they came out looking dangerous and physical leaving the Bokke skittish in the first half. Irish defence was very solid and they deserved the win. The Springboks played well but their new gameplan is still a work in progress. I think a 1-1 drawn test is a fair result all around.
The bias for SA of this analyst is off the charts. Look at the pain in his face at 11:04 .. he couches the Irish compliment with the equivalent of "good kick at the end" and couldnt help mention the TMO and referee. Jesus even the SA supporters in the comments here are less begrudging.
@@Wildkardcalling people stupid is not a good look, your sore that most comments are saying your wrong basically. Going on about the box's like they don't stand on hands and do whatever they can to hurt ppl within the laws and on the edge of them is laughable
@@davidroseitghey mate who are the box's? That's got to be the funniest typo I've seen for a while. Although is it a typo or just simply lack of knowledge about the subject.
Glad the Boks lost that game, their egos needed to be checked. So disappointed by PSTD’s attitude. Where is the humility? The quiet confidence? Hopefully the loss will help re-centre them
Outplayed on the day. Congrats Ireland. This loss will sting and motivate the Boks. After three 1 point wins in the RWC, we know what it feels like. Long may the rivalry and banter live
Thank you for your insight. It is obvious that Ireland wanted to make sure that Marx would not be a factor in the game. It brings back to memory the blatant foul play incident in the world cup final with regards to Mbonamb,s leg injury
People get red cards for a slip high tackle,but aiming to injure a player is a yellow. This actually destroyed a perfect game. Unbelievable that he got away with this bull!
Can't wait for the match review to say the exact same thing you just said, Wildkard. I think World Rugby and TMOs are too focused on the outcomes of injuries in incidents instead of ruling on the act. I just find it funny that they swallow the whistle for this but had it been a NZ on the other side lets say Finau. It would've been called
It WASN'T a deliberate act to injure the other player!! He fell against the side of his leg! I rarely disagree with your analysis but you're way off on this!
take your meds please, that in no way was a red mate, whats your opinion on the RG flooring of Craig , was that nothing ?, we can nit pick every game , no game is perfect but both are trying tricks to win, one thing i know is Ireland are not dirty players
@@WildkardIt was redeveloped stadium for the soccer club, and I personally think the length is too short for Rugby. Great stadium though. Also there are loads of different stadiums in London. I can think of 5 large stadiums besides Twickenham.
As a 100% Springbok supporter I say Ireland deserved to win .What's more they are actually Irish for real .Unlike some European soccer teams that are infact Afrikan imports. Well done Ireland ( and Boks)
Congratulations to Ireland. Looks like you really wanted to prove a point. I've never seen so many Boks bleeding so much in any game before. Eventhough you really wanted to hurt our boys, they really put up a hell of a fight in the 2nd half. Eben was especially targeted. I guess he should not have said anything about the Irish team before.
Cant say im exactly convinced Doris dropped on Marx leg on purpose to hurt him ,seems entirely subjective, you can not tell if he is looking at Marx leg.
Agree - don't think he could tell where his leg was as it was very splayed. The croc roll was a dangerous act. Calling it a deliberate attack on a lower limb is BS
Can’t see why you would be convinced it was deliberate. As you say it is subjective and if we look at your profile picture it suggests you’re 100% Irish. So why would you come to any other conclusion.
if he was looking directly at the hip and is fully aware his above marx's leg. i would have said 100% rugby incident move on. but the fact he was looking strait at it moments before release his right hand it make me question the incident. put yourself 5 inches away from someone's hip and you will immediately know if you can see where their leg is or not.
That was a proper game, a test match between some class players, ref, meh, poor, but neither team folded, scrapped hard, and I couldn't pick it, not that I'm good at it or anything, but both teams had that game. Huge ups for both, to my mind, game of the weekend, great game.
@@Wildkard Both nations should be so proud of the crews wearing their colours, it was a cracker game, looking forward to the Northern tour now, strewth, rugby tuff to win now, that was a blood covered bare knuckle scrap from start to finish, wow, rugby eh.
@@Wildkard you are singling out what you think is a red card. For balance maybe include others also. Direct head contact comes into that equation. What about the croc roll in the Australia v Wales match which wasn’t even a yellow? No balance just bias.
@@Wildkard that would have not even happened if Etzebeth standing offside wasn’t obstructing players to that ruck. It was also the action of two Irish players, the second in Ryan, pushing Dorris further up and off to the side. It did not look deliberate to me and Dorris has no history of cheap shots or dirty play.
Ireland were brilliantly brutal in the first half. We couldnt recover in the 2nd half even with a bombsquad coming on. Those drop goals kept ireland in the game. Well done. U out bokked us👏👏👏
The fact that the Bokke played so bad being 10 points down early, and still lost by only 1 point from an audacious drop kick tells you everything you need to know. To their credit Ireland came to play and injure and did this to their best.
@Wildkard man it was a great game but that was not a red yellow yes but over all great two weeks pity there isn't a third test would have been great for rugby
@Wildkard listen pal rg tackle on a smaller man without the ball was way more dangerous !!! There was no intent to injure by Doris but snyman knew exactly what he was doing !!!
Love the commitment to the pronunciation of the hard 'g' but it's literally Grant, like 'go'. Thanks for the content, always good to get another perspective. I hear you on the dangerous play but we follow Rassie on this one. The refs gave a difficult job as it is. Pity our injuries are cast aside so easily though. Our boys' injuries are as important as any European team. 😢
You are right when you say you are a bit biased , you are way over the top on the Doris yellow card , you are seeing what you want to see !!! Worst decision you ever seen !!! 😂 wow, you make lots of little subtle anti-Irish comments , silly really your better than that mate
@@user-nj8di5tj8hWildkard is a bullshit artist. His anti-Irish prejudice has been obvious for a while now but has spilled out everywhere after this match. His love of the Boks and Marx is there for all to see and its embarrassing. Usually, rugby pundits on You Tube avoid bias and favouritism but not our Wildkard, no siree!!!! Two Cents has the good grace to wear the shirt of the winning teams on his channel. But look here, Wildkards ia wearing his Boks shirt after the loss!!!! A little show of solidarity with his beloved team who got beaten up physically and he's not happy about it. Not happy at all. 😂😂😂😂😂 He wants Doris banned for 6 months!!!!!!! A total joker and not worth the subscription.
You had a problem with Doris falling on the leg but you’re fine with 125Kg+ tackling a 76Kg 5’5” scrum half while offside…not biased at all mate. They beat us up in the first game, this was returning the favour.
@@Wildkard not legal if it’s off the ball and offside - look at the video! One of several incidents the officiating team missed last week but was highlighted by everyone else after the match.
@@Frankabagnale33 a tackle is not a move thats designed to dislocated someone's leg mate, its cant be that hard to understand the difference. its banned in rugby league cos people were getting injured at an alarming rate.
@@Wildkard you think shoulder to the throat of a man half his size offside long after the ball has been offloaded slamming him to the ground wasn’t designed to hurt, then you my friend are naive.
I dunno bro, regarding the Doris yellow card. Because of the 2nd player, we can't say 100% that Doris really intended to target the leg. If Ireland 5 wasn't involved, and it was the same result, then I'd agree with you. As a Bok fan I'm really pissed in any case, we don't know yet if Marx is injured again, he did finish the game, but the risk to injury there is really very high. But even so, with the influence of Ireland 5, TMO couldn't say for sure that it was an intentional attacking of the leg. For all we know, Doris could've been looking at the leg thinking "oh fuck, I hope I don't land on Marx's leg" because I think at that point he might not be in control of his actions. So ja, yellow for a reckless croc roll probably evens out. I just hope Marx is fine
The Springboks didn't loose against Ireland, they lost against themselves. If they only took half of their chances, they would have won quite comfortably.
Super evil actions indeed! If you believe there was nothing wrong with that incident, you should seriously reevaluate your morals. This dude had just came back from an injury, and this could have sidelined him for another year or more. It doesn't matter if this was against a player from a team you dislike; these are ordinary people like you and me, with families to support. Who knows what another injury could do to his career. I'm really glad he didn't get hurt.
@davidwalker2402 Come on now....completely different! One was a player getting badly injured by deliberate malicious act, and the other was a rugby incident where no one was hurt. Wait... 🤔
@@davidwalker2402 This is the exact moral issue I was referring to. I point out a morally wrong incident, and immediately I'm met with people saying, "What about this incident?" This shows a complete lack of accountability and self-awareness. For example, when discussing Craig Casey's HIA, some may compare it to a long-term knee injury, but regardless of the comparison, my point remains valid. I find it difficult to address something morally wrong when the immediate reaction isn't agreement but rather a redirection to another incident. It makes it hard to believe that you are a logical and morally sound individual.
Your analysis is extremely biased and gives little credit to the Irish phsicality in matching the Boks. The comments by the SA suppotrers are more gracious and reasonable.
I feel Tassie should have changed the team for the 2nd Test Faf was out of the game,and the way we kick possession away lost the game for us,with ball in hand the score would have been different
@@Wildkard yes but I think this weekend against Portugal he will release the Young's guns,this is good for springbok rugby alot of competition,so the will be building for 2027
Yes the better team won at the end not without a blood bath. A slaughter was planned. I beg everyone to go look at the game again please. I watched it 3 time live and 2 times after. You can see the reasons why all out Mauls collapsed. Marks were definitely planned. Porter should have had a yellow card after the 3rd scrum pull down. Only thing dickson did right there was to pay attention to that just not gave the card. At the mauls there was always a player off the feet behind bongi that new rolled away and with push back from Ireland caused the boks to trip over that player. The fact that none of the AR's or tmo didnt pick that up wow. Beside the hurdle jumping again the rucks still offside players were not penalized. This is just a few points but go look at the game again and hopefully you will understand what i am saying. Frawley well done you deserve your flowers. I cant really say the same for the rest
Losing is good too... Reminds us that winning is not preordained... you need a bit of luck in the game and we didn't get the rub of the green much... Agreed with you on the Marx incident. Intentionally dropping your weight on someone's leg can end their career. That someone else has then done a croc roll on Marx somehow mitigates the action because it made it look worse? The ref needs a talking to.
Ireland vs Ireland + Pollard. The amount of plenties from both sides but more so Ireland was ridiculous. Must have been a plenty called every 5 mins with is at this level supposedly the highest is shocking and not in a good way.
I thought from the game footage that Caelan doris(8) was yellow, if they had done the yellow to James Ryan(5) instead if think it would have been upgraded to red. Your specific analysis makes sense but small margins without pausing a whole lot. SA kicking away counterattack and turnover ball infuriates me. Great watch, close contest. SA lineout as bad as the ABs, sad turn of events.
I knew the springboks were going to lose as soon as they decided to go for 3 in front of the posts with Dorris in the bin when they had a dominant scrum. Ireland always looked to have way more points in them than 3s the whole game
July DeLight!! ☘️😊💯Especially as D Ref/TMO gave us nothing. Gave SA ‘3’ for THEIR knock on. FFS. Last week was a joke 🤡 Also Lost some respect for SA claiming ‘Obstruction’ by throwing Dselves at ☘️ players. Not soccer ⚽️. #classless Only as good as your last game sooo we just beat the Double WC winners, at home ☺️🙌 G’wan the lads! ☘️
Totally agree on the Doris cro-roll. I was expecting the ref to give a straight red and was very surprised when even the bunker didn't upgrade it. It is such a cliché by now, but we all just want consistency.
@@Wildkard I think World Rugby are tying themselves in knots. On the one hand, they want to protect themselves from future litigation, while on the other, they don't want big games like the RWC final being marred by red cards. If they're not consistent, though, they will create a situation that is worse for player safety and attractability of the sport to broader audience.
It seemed like a longer game with all of the stoppages (medics etc) and slow play on the field versus the England & NZ game… both were great games tho!
He is driven forward by James Ryan. Just advice ( you can ignore )…: be careful using words like “ attack” and/ or “assault in public forum like this. I Like your channel ..: just advice
Attack the leg 😅, so wrong to say that , so bias ! Sad really. Let's look at all the SA late tackles and off the ball holding shall we, or the 3 knock on from tackles given , or the scrum penos that at not , give it a break lad 0:01
Snyman hitting casey off the ball last week and knocking him clean out should have been a red card also...so stop whining marks was unharmed and played on.
It was definitely a red card. The Irish always play dirty. That being said, the Boks played crap and Ireland desirved to win. Many of the Boks don't have the hunger to win, Faf de Klek is one of our biggest handicaps. He is incredibly slow behind the pack and his decision making is below part... I won't mention the execution.
Fantastic battle between 2 rugby titans. It was a well deserved win. Despite the complaints about the 50/50 decisions last week, the Boks deserved their win too. Pity there was no 3rd test as it feels a bit like unfinished business between these two amazing teams. You went over the top on the red though. Yellow was enough. If there was a red card for every illegal tackle there'd be no players left on the field. There were no injuries, he wasn't crushed into the ground. Grow up mate.
@@Wildkard He wasn't injured. There are a lot of tackles that if people got red cards after suffering no injury, there'd be 5 red cards in every game. You're the only one who went over the top on this one. You got it wrong.
@@brianmsahin the law is there to protect the players before injury not after, btw just cos other people say its ok doesnt mean they are right. You need to look at the evidence and make up your own mind. Doris saw the leg and pulled it towards him then dropped his weight on it.
@@Wildkard You're still not looking at this the right way. There can be an illegal head contact for example. Depending on the severity it can be yellow or it can be red. It's exactly the same here. Again if every foul play resulted in a red, it would be stupid. Last week Snyman took out Craig Casey AFTER the ball had gone, took him out of the game and didn't even get carded for dangerous play. Gary Ringrose got clobbered in a high tackle off the ball in this game and the TMO didn't even look at it. Get a grip mate. The ref and TMO made the right decision. If anything the decisions in this game favoured the Boks. You're wrong.
so in rugby league a much more popular sport here in australia has banned whats called "hip-drop tackle" which follows a similar idea that banns players dropping body weight on another player's legs. This is a very unpopular law, but they had to introduce it because the teams where "accidentally" injuring key players in opposition teams at a alarming rate. unlike a head on head collusion or a rough tackle this move is designed to injury someone like a submission move
Losing sucks, but I don't mind losing to a better team on the day. Our first half was embarrassing, we only started to play like World Champions in the second half. Congratulations to Ireland, they're an amazing team. They gave us a taste of our own medicine with a 1 point defeat.
1st half boks looked like the away team for some reason
@@Wildkardfor some reason “correct “ because Ireland basically beat the crap out of them. We were told of how great SA were to have the same turn out with no injuries but every big guy you had fell like flies 10 minutes in, I don’t think SA were fit hence they died in the first 10 minutes.
@davidwalker2402 it's a draw mate
@@davidwalker2402 what’s up with the cocky tone buddy? Relax we are having a civil discourse here, no need to beat your chest in front of us.
@@MosesMatsepane when someone calls you a retard don’t run home to mummy 🤣
Ireland were better than us on the day regardless of any mistakes from the ref. We'll done to them, they are an excellent rugby team.
Well deserved win
From a saffa, I agree. Boks weren't really in this match
Irish teams have a reputation for drop goaling during the dying moments.
How disappointing an analysis .. after such a great game, what do we focus on .. the ref / TMO decisions.. and how you can say that Doris is looking at his leg is totally beyond me .. honestly I think it shows how biased you are & u need to reflect on that.
he was also pulling the leg towards to him before he dropped on it with his left hand. u really cant defend him with "he didn know where the leg was argument. "
What a game. All week I had this nasty feeling in my stomach, thinking that Ireland was going to throw the kitchen sink at us. The team announcements did nothing to comfort me; I looked at that team sheet thinking that Ireland might be stronger this week and it turns out I was right.
Credit to Ireland for coming out swinging and bringing the fight to the Boks. It was an all out assault and it is a credit to the exceptional resilience of the Springboks to still be in the game at half time.
Second half came, bomb squad came and we were without doubt the better side during that period.
Thing with one point wins is this - both teams were very equal, but the one team was just able to do what was necessary to clinch it. Ireland did just that; despite being bested for almost the entire half, they were able to scratch and claw their way into the narrowest of leads at the latest of moments.
Well done to this absolute champion side for the most exhilarating game of rugby played since the end lf the world cup.
I know this is scant consolation, but Ireland proved that they definitely were good enough to win the world cup last year. Had they had one or two calls go their way, had they had jist a little more luck, had they pushed jist a little bit further, they could really have done it and tonight proved it.
A series decider would have been nice but... I don't think my heart would have been able to hold out. I suspect a fair amount of Irish and South Africans would agree.
Well done, Ireland. You've done yourselves proud.
Hopefully we get to the Semis next world cup.
Me too bro.. I knew that Ireland was somehow might win GUT FEELING. Loosing is not nice but it humbles you to be better next time. Its Ok to lose. Welldone to Ireland. To be honest the Boks have not been their best since last game at the world cup. Our rash defence has been sleeping from the Wales game and I think its because they implementing new game play.
@@OscarOSullivan on that note, how many of your current crop will make it?
@@motlhabanemedupe8635 The new game plan is exciting, but as you say, maybe the defense was slipping some because we were really caught sleeping a few times last week.
Also, Willie Le Roux's absence. I'm a huge fan of Sacha an he played a great knock, but he was played out of position (for obvious reasons) and we did miss and old hard general like him last night.
well said mate. great game of rugby from both teams and ireland really took the physicality to another level
Ireland deserved that win, better decision making, better under the high ball, better kicking and better all round execution. Boks scrum was great but never looked too threatening in open play. Well done Ireland! Wish we had a 3rd decider test!
well deserved indeed. lots of work done behind the scene for the irish
@@Wildkard And don't forget how many Irish starters were missing. Some of the players on the field were 3rd/4th choice and they all stood up. Yes, SA are world cup champs but its worth remembering, the last 5 games between the sides, Ireland have 4 wins, SA have only 1.
As a bok supporter, Springbokd didnt deserve to win, they were too poor, if they wouldve won, it would be undeserved. We were not outplayed by any means, we just made stupid mistakes.
yeah definetely room for improvement too many silly decisions
Boks couldn’t even score a try the whole game. Cmon mate Ireland deserved that win.
@@2valu4ever, I think that’s what’s said. Ireland definitely deserved the win.
I definitely say Boks were outplayed, beautiful trick play to score Murray’s try just like Ireland did in the first test. Boks only scored penalty kicks and couldn’t get through the Irish defence - that’s definitely Boks being outplayed
@@kmclel1814 Outplayed? A trick rehearsed play bordeline obstruction since there was crossing and springboks were outplayed? Since when does a single try determine being outplayed? Springboks dominated the All blacks in 2009 without scoring a try. Springboks won 3 world Cups without scoring a try and Ireland none. Ireland were 10 points ahead and if Sacha let the ball go into touch, Springboks win the game...So nobody was being outolayed, it was an even game
Irish fire 🔥 my god what a brilliant end to the series. Frawley and osborn, welcome to the team.
those drop goals were really well done!
As Saffa all credit to Ireland. They deserved the win.
As a South African I am disappointed but truly the Boks didn't deserve to win. Body language at the start said they were going to lose this game right from the start. Ireland rattled us physically 😮 Better we lost now than in the Rugby Championship.
yeah 1st half was really off, almost looked like they were the away team, pulled them selves together late but still
The Boks rarely win the Rugby Championship. It will be won by New Zealand again. And Australia should be better this season so they could get 2nd which means Boks will be 3rd.
But it's OK because Boks won the World Cup which is the most important tournament.
Everything in between the Word Cup is just preparation for the next World Cup 😊
I love the 2019 and 2023 squad, but I think it's time to bring on fresh legs
@@thomaslanders2073 I can see Boks finish second in Championship because they are unlikely to beat ABs twice but coming in third unlikely.
Wow your way OTT with Dorris yellow, you are seeing what you want to see !!!
Worst decision ever !!! Really
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Thank you for highlighting important things in this video @wildkard.
Not you are the only one who is speaking about Doris landing on Marx's leg. For anyone reading, that could have been a nasty injury regardless of whaever else happened in the game.
It should've been red. How either teams played or what calls were made doesn't matter, what matters is that a player almost got injured on the same leg that was fresh out of an injury due to dangerous play and no red card was given for that.
yeah that could be a career ending injury if hes injured again on the same leg...
Horrible video to watch. Your assessment of Dorris "attacking the limb" is insane. People fall on legs and heads and arms all the time unintentionally in rugby near a ruck when ones weight is no longer supported. Slow motion would redcard every player.
am i insane? or are u insane for the fact that he looked at marx's leg and decided to land on it instead of avoiding it
Agree, he’s already in motion and IMO releasing from would be roll where he looked in split second while already falling away is irrelevant, he can’t change direction at that point - slow no clip does no favours in situations like this. Agree with bin as not intentional but to suggest otherwise is more than subjective
@@ciaran.k50 doris had his left hand on the leg and he pulled it towards him as he dropped.
@@Wildkard is this some weird trolling route you are going down to farm engagement?
@@Wildkard I get your point however I feel your subjective analysis on this is being deliberate is off. My ( and I would feel most who see this) opinion is Doris initially engages in a clearout on their hooker, but releases due to Ryan also engaging or rolling the same player. Doris is already low and falling with weight and force of James Ryan tackle coming through.
It’s a rugby incident which was reviewed and Doris was carded based on it not being intentional. To claim straight red has to be based on your claim that Doris knew or intended to do harm. I feel this is where your fair points loose weight.
I enjoy the channel and your breakdowns, just feel this specific focus as an argument for red is harsh when all else is taken into account on this phase of play.
Sad day that my beloved Boks lost today, but Ireland wanted it more and deserved the win.
Reall big lift from ireland tonight
Goeie dag Wildcard.
All things aside, that was an epic test match and very well deserved victory for Ireland as they can go home holding their heads held high and I think this is just what the Boks needed before The Rugby Championship.
yeah plenty to look at and figure out before the big matches against the all blacks. and bigger matches against the wallabies
@@Wildkard So this was not a big match.
2nd most important match in my world tonight
As a South African supporter in NZ, only watched the game now. Boks blew so many chances in first half and Ireland was better team in first half. Boks were better in first 30min of 2nd half. Ireland really did well with the defence. Good arm wrestle. Congrats Ireland - definitely deserved the win.
Was a great match.
1st half was really lack luster for the boks
It was a croc roll. Yes. It wasnt an attack on a lower limb. You are, I suggest, talking through your Springbok crest.
Throwing yourself purposely on someone's leg then pulling him over yourself is shocking... Should never be allowed in the game. Nz did the same thing to Bongi in the world Cup. Out the game for 8 months.
You realise he’s Australian right?
Agree, should have been a red card.
mate he can see the leg, hes face was 5 inches away from it and decided to land on it and not roll away.
Stop will you, your way off on the doris tackle.
@@scoobydee3954 not a tackle its a clean out.
Doris was being a mean skulldugger. That was deliberate. Just like Frizell's takeout of Bongi's leg in RWC final was deliberate.
@@MorkelErasmus yup same as the bongi one
Southern Hemisphere fans can’t handle getting out muscled by the north and they cry baby tears and demand cards when it happens, bunch of hypocrites
What a game!!!! Haven’t seen so much blood in a test match for long while
i know people were bleeding in less than a minute
Here we go, didn’t the SA roll on kellahers leg last week and Ireland lost a try and SA were given a penalty. You’re wrong its a decision by the bunker your now saying there is noise reason to have a bunker. . I personally think you have just made an idiot out of yourself this was the best test by far of any over all these tests and you think it was most important to bring this shit up first. There were a lot more bad and costly decisions made last week and you were obviously found wanting. It seems this was all about your disappointment in the boks but little or no credit for an Irish team that are beaten SA for fun these days.
Maybe u should watch the video before sounding like an absolute moron
@@Wildkard I have watched it and the only retard is you 🤣 it must choke you to have to even acknowledge Ireland were the better team.
How about Ireland try to win a RWC QF for fun. 😂
Give us a break mate, we're trying our hardest 😂 @Darren_S
So how are you feeling about the fact that Dorris broke Marx's leg? Did the "roll" on the Irish player last week break his leg? How about the fact that the roll could quite possibly ruin Marx's career
Congratulations to Ireland. I think Springboks playing game in first half lost us the game. Second half seemed different plan but too little too late. Ireland was always in the game.
Thank you Wildkard.
Cheers from Durban.
thanks for watching mate!
Such bias. But you always suffered from that.
hey im just taking a page from off the ball mate.
@@Wildkard are you South African? Cause I know the ‘Off the ball guys are Irish’
nah matt william is not irish
@@Wildkard he is just a guest and another biased Australian.
@@aidanmasterson50 true but i always support southerner teams over Lions tour member nations.
Ireland brought the fire, amd the Boks seemed suprised by it, and rarely looked like winning.
A few Bok egos need a reality check: Bongi, Faf, PSdT...the soccer dive by PSdT, and then having a go at the ref for penalising him was embarassing and shameful.
u mean when he blocked the high ball kick? 🤣
I agree some of the excess attitude shown towards the refs by players isnt a good look
@@vanrensburgarchitecturebim1641 the dive squad 🤣
@@Wildkard yes that's the one....PSdT took tips from the Afghanistan T20 cricket team on taking a dive. 🫣
Agreed. Don’t like milking. That’s the reason I watch rugby and not football.
I don't think Doris was aiming for the leg, I think he tried to make a legitimate clearout, found himself falling to the side where, if he holds on, will get pinged for a crocodile role, so he lets go and comes down on the leg.
He doesn't drive into the leg, that's just where he falls.
But I do get your point, it is like throwing a punch or any other vicious act, its either a red or it's nothing, however if the offence is for recklessness for not trying to avoid the leg, then yes a yellow can be warranted
thats a good point if hes just being careless a yellow can be argued. i really felt he should have made a better attempt to avoid landing on the leg especially when he looked at it.
Thanks for addressing this. did I hear the ref say doris had little/less control of his fall because the 2nd row changed his momentum? And he knew it was Marx, who could rip the eye from a hurricane....I'm siding with Wildkard if only because doris looked sheepish on the sidelines ,0
@@Wildkard as Doris entered the ruck it moved and his momentum latched him on to Marx (who had come in at side and was illegal) look at the position of Ryan and Doris and how the roll happens it was a rugby incident and not malicious a card was correct call as even the TMO came back and said momentum and body positions of both Marx and Doris with Ryan made it a shitty incident.
@@ericdavison6186 "I'm siding with Wildkard if only because doris looked sheepish on the sidelines ,0" eh no, he was the captain and had just got sent off for 10 in the final quater of a test match that was in the balance ANY player would be upset with themselves or did that not cross your mind?
It was an absolute 'bloody' beast of a spectacle... an awesome game. Lots of mistakes from both sides, bit what a game... nail-biter. Wait, the next match will come... Boks out for revenge.
I am stoked that we have a rivalry building now between us and Ireland...
its a great game indeed! have to wait very long for another one
1-1 was a fair series result. Both teams were outstanding. Just a shame we aren't getting a decider I suppose.
world rugby dont know how to make money obviously a 3rd test in november in ireland would make millions
A 3rd test for the Irish would have been beyond them they looked exhausted
The season is too long, fixture congestion needs to be fixed. Only a few weeks between Autumn Internationals and pre season training for the club season.
The only reason people are complaining about a third test is because the score is one each, if the results were two nil there would complaining about flogging the players
You are so so sad 😥 unsubscribing from Ireland
cya mate thanks for watching
It hurts but must say well played to Ireland..Bokke far from the finished product and didn't see any of the new Tony Brown attack influence.In fact...we looked very flat on attack..Thx for a great series Ireland..wish there was a third Test
yeah the attack was so basic, had to resort back to kicking
Not even a yellow card😅😂😂😂
If you want to play chess or snooker, its your choice.
Read the law book
Minimum yellow card all day.
@theomoller6637 it's a yellow for the croc roll. Which is fair because it is dangerous and they're clamping down on it. Not deliberately targeting the lower limb so not a red
You're literally the only person complaining about the ref favouring Ireland. All the saffer fans and pùndits have been very gracious in defeat with no complaining whatsoever. They all agree that the best side won on the day.
Wildkard, you need to do better.
i did not complain about the referee at all. maybe u should watch the video before posting stupid comments
Watch the video before you make snarky remarks 😂
@@Wildkard I watched the video, mate. As I said, do better. You're not even a saffer but you're always biased towards them. It's not a good look, especially when you're an Aussie.
@@shennediamond6216 I watched the video, that's why I commented in the first place.
4 wins for Ireland in the last 5 games against SA 😂😂😂😂
@@PB22559 and yet you have a win in your pocket. Big whoop move along already
Fair play to Ireland, for beating the Rugby World Cup 2023 Champions South Africa (Springboks).
I was not convinced at times we would win that match.
well done indeed
Complete bias.. this is painful, nothing but a rant about Doris and the bunker
says the guy ignoring the fact doris looked at marx's leg and decided to land on it?
I think Ireland are one of the few teams who can match the famed South African physicality. I think most other top teams would have lost both tests by at least 10 points in that feral atmosphere with the Boks on a revenge mission. No one over here thinks Ireland are better than the Boks. That's just the media hyping things up. I must admit I didn't think that this tour was a good idea. I thought our boys were already showing signs of fatigue in the league and and European competitions. I thought we would lose both tests and probably be hammered in one of them. Instead i think we have got much more positives than negatives. The first test we played quite poorly for half the game but managed to get ourselves back in contention. The second test was a big improvement. Main benefit for us was the emergence of Osborne as an alternative to Kennan and Frawley as a viable option at ten.
yeha these tours are there to build characters, the young 10s really stepped up one after another. i think winning and loosing is just a number the important part was the experience these players went through and it will be important for the rwc in 2027
Was impressed the Irish were so prepared to meet the physicality. A lot of teams just don't have the cattle to begin with or are flat out bullied out of it by the Boks. Irish understood the way to deal with that intimidation factor is meet it head on, gave them the platform to win this test.
Ireland deserved that win…well played
they did clutch that one
The ridiculous call on the croc roll was that no 5 (Ryan) infringing was the mitigating factor. In what world does one crime cancel or minimise another crime.
i know its so dumb how 2 illegal moves can mitigate each other just awful referee
After the ref awarded Ireland a penalty. The ref missed a Irish Lineout dummy. What's a Lineout dummy you ask? A Lineout dummy is where you pretend to throw the ball the first time and throw the ball on the second time. I was not expecting a Irish drop goal in the dying seconds of the match. South Africa weirdly enough refused to score any tries this match, and only did penalty kicks. So Ireland was the only team that was able to score the only try of the match.
referee had some bad 50/50 calls but it was bad both ways
There was a SA lineout that was thrown so crooked right into his own team mate, like he was playing basketball 😂
That Malcom Marx situation was nothing compared to the Craig Cassey matter. At least someone was sent off this time (yellow card). The Craig Cassey situation should have been a red to Snyman, late tackle on a scrum half or at least a penalty to Ireland. Thats why there was so much blood in just the first 15mins of the first half.... Ireland were being revengeful for the previous game man.
yeah dont think trying to end someone's career who was not involved in the cassey tackle is a good look on the irish rugby team.
If Ireland got the benefit in that decision then it goes some way to make up for Like Pierce.s disgraceful refereeing last week which cost Ireland the game.
@@typhoontim125 touche! The universe ballance it self
@@Wildkard Indeed..and so the series ends 1-1.
@@Wildkard insults again from you, take a break from work mate, have a holiday, the comment was reasonable and even if you feel it's wrong why the insults!
@@davidroseitgwhen did he insult anyone? Do you know what touché means?
Took me 48h to watch you again...lol. now I know how you feel. rugby still rules!!!
All credit to Ireland, even after a loss last week and probably considered the underdogs they weren't intimidated they came out looking dangerous and physical leaving the Bokke skittish in the first half. Irish defence was very solid and they deserved the win. The Springboks played well but their new gameplan is still a work in progress. I think a 1-1 drawn test is a fair result all around.
Very close in both tests lots to work towards for the boks. Which is good.
The bias for SA of this analyst is off the charts. Look at the pain in his face at 11:04 .. he couches the Irish compliment with the equivalent of "good kick at the end" and couldnt help mention the TMO and referee. Jesus even the SA supporters in the comments here are less begrudging.
hey at least u watched the video before making this comment you dont sound as stupid as u did with your last deleted comment
@@Wildkard You make it hard to watch through to end when you have such naked bias.
@@Wildkardcalling people stupid is not a good look, your sore that most comments are saying your wrong basically. Going on about the box's like they don't stand on hands and do whatever they can to hurt ppl within the laws and on the edge of them is laughable
@@davidroseitghey mate who are the box's? That's got to be the funniest typo I've seen for a while. Although is it a typo or just simply lack of knowledge about the subject.
@@cosmic_diver whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. I am super ignorant of rugby because I miss type something lol, taking the loss well then...
Glad the Boks lost that game, their egos needed to be checked. So disappointed by PSTD’s attitude. Where is the humility? The quiet confidence? Hopefully the loss will help re-centre them
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Just to add if you want to give out about the ref all the time maybe you should go to Pamplona and run with the bulls and then decide who is correct
the bunker is not the referee
Outplayed on the day. Congrats Ireland. This loss will sting and motivate the Boks. After three 1 point wins in the RWC, we know what it feels like. Long may the rivalry and banter live
@@cl0udbr3ak well played indeed
Thank you for your insight. It is obvious that Ireland wanted to make sure that Marx would not be a factor in the game. It brings back to memory the blatant foul play incident in the world cup final with regards to Mbonamb,s leg injury
yeah i thought that was very similar and it did not look good
People get red cards for a slip high tackle,but aiming to injure a player is a yellow. This actually destroyed a perfect game. Unbelievable that he got away with this bull!
yeah bit of a gray area in this one.
Can't wait for the match review to say the exact same thing you just said, Wildkard. I think World Rugby and TMOs are too focused on the outcomes of injuries in incidents instead of ruling on the act. I just find it funny that they swallow the whistle for this but had it been a NZ on the other side lets say Finau. It would've been called
world rugby dont know anything about rugby mate. they are just terrible.
As a die hard Bok supporter. Ireland you deserved the win. Boks we’re disjointed.
It WASN'T a deliberate act to injure the other player!! He fell against the side of his leg! I rarely disagree with your analysis but you're way off on this!
I would of agreed except he looked at the leg, instead of avoiding it he dropped on to it. Clear as day.
@@Wildkard what did you think of the boks trying to cheat and get the winning drop kick disallowed
@@some_might_say that was actually quite embarassing
take your meds please, that in no way was a red mate, whats your opinion on the RG flooring of Craig , was that nothing ?, we can nit pick every game , no game is perfect but both are trying tricks to win, one thing i know is Ireland are not dirty players
neither of the incidents looked good
That is a red card you retard
European Cup finals were not in Twickenham, but north east London in Tottenham Stadium. I was there.
Ohh right my bad it was in england i assume it was at twickenham
@@WildkardIt was redeveloped stadium for the soccer club, and I personally think the length is too short for Rugby. Great stadium though. Also there are loads of different stadiums in London. I can think of 5 large stadiums besides Twickenham.
@@limerickman8512 yeah scoocer fields always have short end zones, i love murray field cos its end zones are massive
As a 100% Springbok supporter I say Ireland deserved to win .What's more they are actually Irish for real .Unlike some European soccer teams that are infact Afrikan imports. Well done Ireland ( and Boks)
rugby imports are big business mate!
Congratulations to Ireland. Looks like you really wanted to prove a point. I've never seen so many Boks bleeding so much in any game before. Eventhough you really wanted to hurt our boys, they really put up a hell of a fight in the 2nd half. Eben was especially targeted. I guess he should not have said anything about the Irish team before.
@@wot4922 physical game mate just brutal
Cant say im exactly convinced Doris dropped on Marx leg on purpose to hurt him ,seems entirely subjective, you can not tell if he is looking at Marx leg.
Agree - don't think he could tell where his leg was as it was very splayed. The croc roll was a dangerous act. Calling it a deliberate attack on a lower limb is BS
Can’t see why you would be convinced it was deliberate. As you say it is subjective and if we look at your profile picture it suggests you’re 100% Irish. So why would you come to any other conclusion.
@@JRish22you are correct. Marx legs was sprayed. I guess Doris thought he was going for the ball.
@@loots0533 cheers for the value add
if he was looking directly at the hip and is fully aware his above marx's leg. i would have said 100% rugby incident move on. but the fact he was looking strait at it moments before release his right hand it make me question the incident. put yourself 5 inches away from someone's hip and you will immediately know if you can see where their leg is or not.
I didn't see the post match presser,but I think rassie must take this result on the chin for those 1st half tactics.....
1st half was bad they were better in the 2nd
That was a proper game, a test match between some class players, ref, meh, poor, but neither team folded, scrapped hard, and I couldn't pick it, not that I'm good at it or anything, but both teams had that game. Huge ups for both, to my mind, game of the weekend, great game.
great game indeed, very close and all credit to the great drop goals
@@Wildkard Both nations should be so proud of the crews wearing their colours, it was a cracker game, looking forward to the Northern tour now, strewth, rugby tuff to win now, that was a blood covered bare knuckle scrap from start to finish, wow, rugby eh.
Hey Wild card why not review the cause of Porters HIIA. You won’t because you are blatantly biased.
i didn review anyone's HIA incident why would i single out porter's HIA?
@@Wildkard well if you are bleating on about red cards, you should include all that reach that bar. But then you bias is almost manic.
@@Wildkard you are singling out what you think is a red card. For balance maybe include others also. Direct head contact comes into that equation. What about the croc roll in the Australia v Wales match which wasn’t even a yellow? No balance just bias.
@@aidanmasterson50 mate landing on someone leg has one of the highest injury rate in rugby its banned in rugby league
@@Wildkard that would have not even happened if Etzebeth standing offside wasn’t obstructing players to that ruck. It was also the action of two Irish players, the second in Ryan, pushing Dorris further up and off to the side. It did not look deliberate to me and Dorris has no history of cheap shots or dirty play.
Ireland were brilliantly brutal in the first half. We couldnt recover in the 2nd half even with a bombsquad coming on. Those drop goals kept ireland in the game. Well done. U out bokked us👏👏👏
Brilliant drop goals.
@@citedcanvas85 How is legal to bludgeon players. Not one but two of the hardest guys in the team had bad cuts. Something behind the scenes
@@lucymcintosh343 if they put their heads where they don’t belong thats what happens ….
The fact that the Bokke played so bad being 10 points down early, and still lost by only 1 point from an audacious drop kick tells you everything you need to know. To their credit Ireland came to play and injure and did this to their best.
first half wasnt great from the boks u are right
Jesus great game and this guy is high
High indeed mate
@Wildkard man it was a great game but that was not a red yellow yes but over all great two weeks pity there isn't a third test would have been great for rugby
i just think the way he looked at the leg and used his left hand to pull it under him wasn't an indicator for accident. timestamp 4:08
@squide rugby tweeted the same about that Doris incident. Besides that Ireland were class and deserved that win 🥇
@@deborahlawson5109 yeah deserved the win regardless.
Craig casey had his head ploughed into the ground and there was no card let's get real here kid
its just a game mate, if u think people should be taking revenge on people u should stop watching.
Exactly... Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house @wildkard
@Wildkard listen pal rg tackle on a smaller man without the ball was way more dangerous !!! There was no intent to injure by Doris but snyman knew exactly what he was doing !!!
It was not a card Doris was in u are been biast it was accident boks commutes many fouls.u should be impartial meaning shut yup
@@thomaspollock5709 classic
Love the commitment to the pronunciation of the hard 'g' but it's literally Grant, like 'go'. Thanks for the content, always good to get another perspective. I hear you on the dangerous play but we follow Rassie on this one. The refs gave a difficult job as it is. Pity our injuries are cast aside so easily though. Our boys' injuries are as important as any European team. 😢
@@antheacarolus8084 thanks fir watching im just joking with grant's name
Man I couldn't even sleep after this defeat .......congrats to Ireland ✌🏿
mate i couldnt sleep cos all the hate comments
@@WildkardYou brought those comments on yourself, dufus! Maybe a bit more objectivity and less bias would do the job. Awful stuff from you.
So you can read Doris' mind can you? Calm down lad, you're just a pound shop 2 Cents Rugby.
he can see the leg, its 5inches away from him, you can test this yourself. and he decided to land on it and not avoid it.
@@Wildkardkeep crying bro Irelands the real RWC champs gonna put 100 on Lostralia lol
Neither of them know rugby bro ha ha Hakatime and Uggy the best now g
You should be wearing the winners jersey. Respect.
im a southerner. but if ireland was playing france i would be wearing it for sure!
You are right when you say you are a bit biased , you are way over the top on the Doris yellow card , you are seeing what you want to see !!!
Worst decision you ever seen !!! 😂 wow, you make lots of little subtle anti-Irish comments , silly really your better than that mate
doris broke marx's with this
@@WildkardDo you have proof that his fracture came from this incident or are you making things up? No one in the Bok camp has confirmed this.
@@user-nj8di5tj8hWildkard is a bullshit artist. His anti-Irish prejudice has been obvious for a while now but has spilled out everywhere after this match. His love of the Boks and Marx is there for all to see and its embarrassing. Usually, rugby pundits on You Tube avoid bias and favouritism but not our Wildkard, no siree!!!! Two Cents has the good grace to wear the shirt of the winning teams on his channel. But look here, Wildkards ia wearing his Boks shirt after the loss!!!! A little show of solidarity with his beloved team who got beaten up physically and he's not happy about it. Not happy at all. 😂😂😂😂😂 He wants Doris banned for 6 months!!!!!!! A total joker and not worth the subscription.
Rassie! Can you make some changes now... time you give Morne van den berg a run at 9. And please bring back Jasper Wiese at 8!!!!
Ngomezulu at 10.
Wiese is still banned i think 6 weeks he had
@@Wildkardexactly
@Wildkard kwagga not going great at 8. Would try out anyone with a bit more size at the moment, and that gets over the advantage line.
You had a problem with Doris falling on the leg but you’re fine with 125Kg+ tackling a 76Kg 5’5” scrum half while offside…not biased at all mate.
They beat us up in the first game, this was returning the favour.
doris performed an illegal move thats designed to dislocate somone's leg mate. a tackle is a legal move thats accidently caused an injury to another.
@@Wildkard not legal if it’s off the ball and offside - look at the video! One of several incidents the officiating team missed last week but was highlighted by everyone else after the match.
@@Frankabagnale33 a tackle is not a move thats designed to dislocated someone's leg mate, its cant be that hard to understand the difference. its banned in rugby league cos people were getting injured at an alarming rate.
@@Wildkard you think shoulder to the throat of a man half his size offside long after the ball has been offloaded slamming him to the ground wasn’t designed to hurt, then you my friend are naive.
I dunno bro, regarding the Doris yellow card. Because of the 2nd player, we can't say 100% that Doris really intended to target the leg. If Ireland 5 wasn't involved, and it was the same result, then I'd agree with you. As a Bok fan I'm really pissed in any case, we don't know yet if Marx is injured again, he did finish the game, but the risk to injury there is really very high. But even so, with the influence of Ireland 5, TMO couldn't say for sure that it was an intentional attacking of the leg. For all we know, Doris could've been looking at the leg thinking "oh fuck, I hope I don't land on Marx's leg" because I think at that point he might not be in control of his actions. So ja, yellow for a reckless croc roll probably evens out. I just hope Marx is fine
@@kristian762 fair call mate i felt he could have rolled away instead of landing on it
@Wildkard ja maybe he could have
Most sensible post here
The Springboks didn't loose against Ireland, they lost against themselves. If they only took half of their chances, they would have won quite comfortably.
@@Rooster1212 i agree 1st half was very average
Great comment
I agree with the red card call 💯
cheers!
Who is this loolaa? I lasted 20 seconds
@@nefmot your mum would be disapointed
Wildcard, ignore the haters..you have a great channel.
cheers mate!
Too many egos in Springbok team. Lazy performance.
Might have a point 1st half was looking like that
As Nick Mallet said at halftime: the Springboks slapgattedness. 😂🙈 That means useless, lazy and undisciplined Wildkard.
@@claireforbes1808 yep agree
@@claireforbes1808 i didn watch half time but if i did i wouldnt know what that means lol
Oh you're pretty sore, Wildkard. 😂😂
touche!
Agree, I said the same thing! That was a red, no question about it.
thanks for agreeing with me
Super evil actions indeed! If you believe there was nothing wrong with that incident, you should seriously reevaluate your morals. This dude had just came back from an injury, and this could have sidelined him for another year or more. It doesn't matter if this was against a player from a team you dislike; these are ordinary people like you and me, with families to support. Who knows what another injury could do to his career. I'm really glad he didn't get hurt.
100% mate people defending this is beyond comprehension
@Wildkard are people defending it? Or just questioning your take on it. Don't think anyone wants those injuries in the game
@@9hdf_landing2 Craig Casey being tackled to the floor by a player offside that was fairly vicious. I’m sure you posted to that last week .
@davidwalker2402 Come on now....completely different! One was a player getting badly injured by deliberate malicious act, and the other was a rugby incident where no one was hurt. Wait... 🤔
@@davidwalker2402 This is the exact moral issue I was referring to. I point out a morally wrong incident, and immediately I'm met with people saying, "What about this incident?" This shows a complete lack of accountability and self-awareness. For example, when discussing Craig Casey's HIA, some may compare it to a long-term knee injury, but regardless of the comparison, my point remains valid. I find it difficult to address something morally wrong when the immediate reaction isn't agreement but rather a redirection to another incident. It makes it hard to believe that you are a logical and morally sound individual.
Your analysis is extremely biased and gives little credit to the Irish phsicality in matching the Boks. The comments by the SA suppotrers are more gracious and reasonable.
i did give big credit to irish physicality, maybe u should watch the video before posting.
I feel Tassie should have changed the team for the 2nd Test Faf was out of the game,and the way we kick possession away lost the game for us,with ball in hand the score would have been different
i think he just wanted consistancy cos game 1 wasnt perfect and he wanted to improve on that
@@Wildkard yes but I think this weekend against Portugal he will release the Young's guns,this is good for springbok rugby alot of competition,so the will be building for 2027
I think Tony brown should work around the springbok system, not springbok working around Tony’s plan… I mean why fix something thats not broken??😢
@@Carlo4rm1doorblock not sure what tony brown added to this team tbh
Thanks to you I had a fight with my Girlfriend because she said you look sexy in your Springbok Shirt!
🤣🤣sry mate, thats very kind of her.
Your team booded our kickers and still lost your team was rubbish Irish well able for u
@@thomaspollock5709 ur fans booed your own legend ronan o'gara
Yes the better team won at the end not without a blood bath. A slaughter was planned. I beg everyone to go look at the game again please. I watched it 3 time live and 2 times after. You can see the reasons why all out Mauls collapsed. Marks were definitely planned. Porter should have had a yellow card after the 3rd scrum pull down. Only thing dickson did right there was to pay attention to that just not gave the card.
At the mauls there was always a player off the feet behind bongi that new rolled away and with push back from Ireland caused the boks to trip over that player. The fact that none of the AR's or tmo didnt pick that up wow.
Beside the hurdle jumping again the rucks still offside players were not penalized.
This is just a few points but go look at the game again and hopefully you will understand what i am saying. Frawley well done you deserve your flowers. I cant really say the same for the rest
better team won indeed, sht happens in rugby cant always get the dice on the referee
@@Wildkard everyone have their own feels on this game. Give it to Ireland each to their own. Well done Ireland
Losing is good too... Reminds us that winning is not preordained... you need a bit of luck in the game and we didn't get the rub of the green much... Agreed with you on the Marx incident. Intentionally dropping your weight on someone's leg can end their career. That someone else has then done a croc roll on Marx somehow mitigates the action because it made it look worse? The ref needs a talking to.
yeah its two separate issues, croc roll is a croc roll, the landing on the leg is an issue on its own.
Got be me a break. It was a yellow
it was a yellow right?
What the **** is a "Field Goal"?
goal score out in the field
@@Wildkard Field goals don't exist in rugby union any more, they were abolished. What Frawley scored was a drop goal.
@@normanstewart7130 righto mate
Also feel technically pollard was tackled in the air in the first min of the Game, his legs taken from under him.
50/50 calls
Remember, World Rugby(really at the behest of the NZRU) thinks a game with less than 5 tries is boring and scrums ruin the spectacle
i disagree with their assessment
Ireland vs Ireland + Pollard. The amount of plenties from both sides but more so Ireland was ridiculous. Must have been a plenty called every 5 mins with is at this level supposedly the highest is shocking and not in a good way.
I showed the stats it was actuallu low overall in penalty count just most of them are kickable.
@@Wildkard 👍👍
I don't see any looking ar the leg unless he has eyes on the side of his head Wildcard.
@@stevewilliams8944 do u see him hook the leg with his hand? He wont be able to do that without seeing the leg
I thought from the game footage that Caelan doris(8) was yellow, if they had done the yellow to James Ryan(5) instead if think it would have been upgraded to red. Your specific analysis makes sense but small margins without pausing a whole lot.
SA kicking away counterattack and turnover ball infuriates me.
Great watch, close contest. SA lineout as bad as the ABs, sad turn of events.
thanks for the input mate, i really felt doris should have made a better effort to avoid the leg. but it was a great performance by the irish.
I knew the springboks were going to lose as soon as they decided to go for 3 in front of the posts with Dorris in the bin when they had a dominant scrum. Ireland always looked to have way more points in them than 3s the whole game
yeah the boks attack really looked out of ideas
July DeLight!! ☘️😊💯Especially as D Ref/TMO gave us nothing. Gave SA ‘3’ for THEIR knock on. FFS. Last week was a joke 🤡 Also Lost some respect for SA claiming ‘Obstruction’ by throwing Dselves at ☘️ players. Not soccer ⚽️. #classless Only as good as your last game sooo we just beat the Double WC winners, at home ☺️🙌 G’wan the lads! ☘️
well done ireland really did a good job pulling out of that one!
Totally agree on the Doris cro-roll. I was expecting the ref to give a straight red and was very surprised when even the bunker didn't upgrade it. It is such a cliché by now, but we all just want consistency.
yeah they say they wanted to hammer down on this issue and this was over looked in a big way
@@Wildkard I think World Rugby are tying themselves in knots. On the one hand, they want to protect themselves from future litigation, while on the other, they don't want big games like the RWC final being marred by red cards. If they're not consistent, though, they will create a situation that is worse for player safety and attractability of the sport to broader audience.
It seemed like a longer game with all of the stoppages (medics etc) and slow play on the field versus the England & NZ game… both were great games tho!
it was very long the 1st half almost took an hour due to the injuries
He is driven forward by James Ryan. Just advice ( you can ignore )…: be careful using words like “ attack” and/ or “assault in public forum like this. I Like your channel ..: just advice
cheers mate! we are not living in 1984 yet, but i will change it so people dont get triggered
That was a red card
Attack the leg 😅, so wrong to say that , so bias ! Sad really. Let's look at all the SA late tackles and off the ball holding shall we, or the 3 knock on from tackles given , or the scrum penos that at not , give it a break lad 0:01
No class whinging tosser and that’s being kind to you Willard
Who the fk is willard🤣🤣 u must be special.
Snyman hitting casey off the ball last week and knocking him clean out should have been a red card also...so stop whining marks was unharmed and played on.
irish logic, "my player got injured, lets try end someone's career the next week."
It was definitely a red card. The Irish always play dirty. That being said, the Boks played crap and Ireland desirved to win. Many of the Boks don't have the hunger to win, Faf de Klek is one of our biggest handicaps. He is incredibly slow behind the pack and his decision making is below part... I won't mention the execution.
yeah especially in the 1st half the boks team looked unmotivated
Fantastic battle between 2 rugby titans. It was a well deserved win. Despite the complaints about the 50/50 decisions last week, the Boks deserved their win too. Pity there was no 3rd test as it feels a bit like unfinished business between these two amazing teams. You went over the top on the red though. Yellow was enough. If there was a red card for every illegal tackle there'd be no players left on the field. There were no injuries, he wasn't crushed into the ground. Grow up mate.
its my opinion he looked at the leg and hooked it toward him with his left hand, u can look at it how you want yourself
@@Wildkard He wasn't injured. There are a lot of tackles that if people got red cards after suffering no injury, there'd be 5 red cards in every game. You're the only one who went over the top on this one. You got it wrong.
@@brianmsahin the law is there to protect the players before injury not after, btw just cos other people say its ok doesnt mean they are right. You need to look at the evidence and make up your own mind. Doris saw the leg and pulled it towards him then dropped his weight on it.
@@Wildkard You're still not looking at this the right way. There can be an illegal head contact for example. Depending on the severity it can be yellow or it can be red. It's exactly the same here. Again if every foul play resulted in a red, it would be stupid. Last week Snyman took out Craig Casey AFTER the ball had gone, took him out of the game and didn't even get carded for dangerous play. Gary Ringrose got clobbered in a high tackle off the ball in this game and the TMO didn't even look at it. Get a grip mate. The ref and TMO made the right decision. If anything the decisions in this game favoured the Boks. You're wrong.
so in rugby league a much more popular sport here in australia has banned whats called "hip-drop tackle" which follows a similar idea that banns players dropping body weight on another player's legs. This is a very unpopular law, but they had to introduce it because the teams where "accidentally" injuring key players in opposition teams at a alarming rate. unlike a head on head collusion or a rough tackle this move is designed to injury someone like a submission move
Wild card it's red 👺
@@thomaspollock5709 it should be cos its ends careers, and banned in rugby league