@@Tricia-h3p I know. But you have absolutely no facts to support that. And most of them that were in the so called Bible have been disproven. But whatever. You pray to your old hairy man in the. Clouds dressed like a wizard 🤣🤣🤣 and I'll so me.
Pat Fenis732 I feel bad for you... so I will try and be a light untoo your life quickly- just so on your personal day of judgement you will never be able to say nobody told you. There is a GOD, his name is Jesus Christ- he is real, he came to earth as man and tried to give us important messages in the scripture, maybe just go look up some of what he taught about to start, than you can take it from there. The Bible is the most historically accurate book ever written and not one single thing has ever been a contraindication- study the scriptures for yourself, or be the devils little spokesmen without even knowing it... your call. God bless you and your family hunn..
Just wanted to stop and say THANK YOU. This is %1000 a mental and spiritual process. I’m on day 12 and can tell a world of a difference. While yes it has been hell for me, I feel it has affected those around me more than anything. The depression and sympathy is high but the will to keep going is not going away. Lack of sleep and ability to get comfortable due to muscle pain is where it’s the roughest. Your videos have gotten me through a lot and I just wanted to say thanks. You don’t know me but you’ve touched me from miles away and have made a huge impact in helping me get through this process. I’m not huge on religion but I encourage anyone trying to just be open to it, even just the thought.
Hang in there, it looks like the worst may be over. I've been on it for 12 years. Tried quitting a few times but when the exhaustion and inability to sleep well was still not getting better after 30 then couldn't take it anymore. Started on 16mg then got down to 8 five years ago. Now down to 1mg a day and hopefully ill be off for good within couple of months. New patients should be told about the problems they'll face down the road and should taper off quickly and not be kept on it for more than a year. Good luck!
Stevee D Hey man....Really glad you found my video. I need to tell you that last night...for the 1st time I SLEPT!! 3 hours, then a bathroom trip, then another 3 hours, then another... AND I didnt sweat out my sheets. I dont want to get too excited about this, but this has been an incredible milestone for me. Not only did I sleep, but I do not remember tossing and turning each time after waking...It was like head down, lights out, DONE...Like a normal person!! I hope this give you some hope. My gut feeling is that perhaps you jumped at too high a dose wheb you tried the 1st time OR you had too much stress in your life at the time. I know that once you get down low enough, and have mentally and spiritually prepared yourself, YOU WILL DO IT Keep in touch ny friend
Goodbye Suboxone: the mental aspect plays a huge part because it's not just a physical addiction it's also psychological so part of the plan to go off has to be mentally preparing yourself and believing you can do it. I look forward to having a clear mind. Thanks for your reply, I look forward to your future clips.
Goodbye Suboxone: by the way, my shrink actually mentionned a couple of times that I might want to stay on low dose of 1mg indefinitely because it's been found to help with depression. (I have chronic depression). and to make things worse he put me on methylphenidate to help with low energy. But at least there's no physical dependency with that.
Stevee D My take and experience is that only you can decide whether or not to stay on or get off completely. Nobody can tell you what is "right" for you. For me, I never planned my detox. All my circumstances came together in a bit of synchronicity which opened my mind up to the idea and eventually the decision...Once I made the decision, I never looked back. Your moment of synchronicity WILL COME.
Yeah that happened to me aswell. I believe it's the pupils dialating from flight or fight response. Aka the withdrawals. Just like going and having your eyes dilated at the doctor and having to wear those huge shades lol. I do believe it's also our bodies experiencing energy and life again too.
@@justintime753 I noticed that too. For me everything looks gray at first. Like a tint. And the air smelled so bad. Everything smelled like chemicals. Drove me nuts. I would close my eyes and cover my nose
Just wanted to say, thank you, I'm 25 and I've been on and off heroin and suboxone, and blues for 10 years. I've been consistently on sub for a couple of years now. What some people don't know is metabolism has a lot to do with the duration of withdrawals and how quickly they come on. I'm about 5'10 150Ibs and drugs get out of my system super quick, so I was in full withdrawal around 40 hours in or so. I'm on day 3 was down to taking about a 1/4 of an 8.7 zubsolv every day, last night was super rough absolutely no sleep, assume tonight will be mostly the same. But I will get through this!
I feel sooo much better today. However, my house is completely shot! I literally wash a dish & a utensil every evening to eat. 😆. I’m just so disgusted with Subs that I have to make it through this. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for your video. I am on day 7 and been back at work since day 3. I run a small company and it has been super tough but manageable. I think the more you stay busy the faster time goes by. My mind is is getting less foggy everyday. FYI 6 Years of subox at 12-16 mg a day then tapered for the last 3 months.
Mark Stuart Outstanding! These truley are the stories we need to hear more about. Enough of the horror stories about how this is impossible. Very happy for you sir.
20-24 mg a day for 7 years went down to 16 a day for one week then down to 12 for a week then down to 8 for a week then down to 4 for a week then to 2 for a week and I'm on day 7 today . I can smell again i can taste again i can feel again .Everyday seems to be a little bit better . its not easy but i believe its worth it . Thankfully we are here that's all i can say . Suboxone is a shitty deal and not prescribed right . My bro never wanted to take it because of this and he's dead now . If i didn't get on this when i did i wouldn't be here right now so whatever the F i gotta deal with now i'll get through this and so will YOU !
I’m on day 2. I haven’t been a big smoker for awhile now but edibles and smoke really help me. I’ve also bought some kratom but I’m not really big on it either although it does help you get through the day. I’ve been using subxone for about two years & I’m done with it..The journey starts now. Good luck with yours man. Thank you for making this videos.
Robert Paraday I’m still struggling to be honest. I’m trying to taper down right now..I was never prescribed suboxone. I had to buy it off people who had it but I pretty much did an 8mg tablet almost everyday for two years.
Robert Paraday Kratom does work I just don’t really care for it. It makes me feel dizzy and I’ll piss literally all day. It might not affect you the same way as it does me though. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it from other people. Maybe I need to get a different kind.
I feel like such a stalker. I rewatch everybody’s sub withdrawal videos. At the tail end of my taper, and these videos really make me feel more hopeful.
Hang in there brother. It takes a while. I've been on Suboxone, 20mg per day and I'm feeling somewhat better. I go through most of the things you mentioned including constipation but it all outweighs the bad. I wish you nothing but success. God bless you brother. Much love.
I'm beginning this letting go of suboxone myself after almost eight years. I've tapered myself this last year and I've gotten down to about one milligram and i stopped going to doctor which was a big decision but I've been building my body and brain with nootropics and nutrition but it's time and will continue to work towards this all to be the past... Thanks for making these videos
Josh Roudebush hello. I was wondering what kind of nootropics you have liked? I have been on sub for8 years as well and I am at 1 mg as well. I am about to do a .25 taper so I was just wondering what you took. Good job
How are you making out now? I’m thinking of weening down and stopping going to the doctor but I’m scared of making that leap to just stop going to the doctor and finish a taper with what ever I have left. I see all these people that are sick for months and it scares the hell out of me.
I'm 15 days now without Suboxone or Subutex, still can't sleep. I have been a hermit, thankfully I have a wonderful wife that understands what I'm doing with the detox and two amazing boys I want to be there for, I went to town yesterday and the sun was so damn bright I thought I was going to run someone over trying to find a parking spot. You're doing a great thing with the videos, I appreciate it all. It's good to know others are feeling the same way and that I'm just not crazy...
I am really impressed how you're describing the details on day 20. I get the worse brain fog that I lose train of thought really easy. On day 41 and there's no way I'll be able to have a 20min conversation. By the way you do a great job on all your videos
Lovely to see a positive video about coming off subutex. I'm currently doing the same I was put on it in August, then a few weeks ago I was told by my prescriber that there taking me off it (I wanted to come off but no where near as fast as there bringing me down) I was on 18mg but not stable,then I was brought down to 16mg the next week 14mg then the withdrawal symptoms got bad. I asked for the taper to be slowed down, or some meds to help they said we will help we will speed it up to 4mg a week to get it over with! I asked them not to but they did anyway. I'm currently on 6mgI'm having bad symptoms, very little sleep, constantly yawning eyes watering,nose running,aching legs and back, anxiety, nausea,no appetite, stomach cramps that are agony , allways cold,and feeling weak and no energy. My drug service after a family member complained to them how ill I was have agreed to let me stay on 6mg over Christmas but then back to drops 2mg a week untill I hit 2mg then nothing. I asked could I go lower than 2mg but was told no as it wouldn't make a difference (I disagree) they've also told me I'm proloning my withdrawell symptoms and making it worse for myself by staying on 6mg over Xmas (again I disagree,I think I'm giving my body chance to catch up!) What's your opinion on it? Should I jump at 6mg like they said (mind you these are the same people who told me it's like mild flu and won't last more than 2 weeks and then I'll be fine) or should I taper? Thank you so much!
To taper down from 16 mg should take many months. I think the rule is only go down by 10% each time & only if you aren't already having strong withdrawal symptoms. You're right about your body needing time to adjust.
If NOTHING else is taken from this, make them give you the 2 mg strips, that way you have access to going lower than 2 mgs. Cutting the 8s into fractional pieces can be difficult in dosing and it's just better to have the 2 mg strips. Trust me, you will be happy you did. You can also try to find a "connect" for them, as that's some bullshit and doctors do not always know what is best. But then again neither do I. You'll know what you need more than I or even a doctor will. There is no shame in "doctor shopping" or buying these things off the street as I did 8 YEARS of heroin IV use, and I can confirm suboxone produces the same withdrawal effects. Just longer. I urge you to accept these feelings. As they are coming. They are as bad or as good as you decide to make it. Over the counter medication help barely imodium is a life saver, it activates gastrointestinal opoid receptors AND because they do not cross the blood brain barrier they will not give the dreaded precipitated withdrawals. If you need anything, ask. I have years of experience on this subject :p
Yes, thank you for this. I watch them over and over just for motivation. I’m on day 12 and finally feeling partiality better. Can’t sleep, toss and turn, maybe get an hour or few hours per Night, but better than when I couldn’t on days 6-10. I’ve eaten at least a couple fruits a day cause that’s all I was able to eat in the beginning when I chewed 100 times to swallow. Finally getting a small appetite days 10-12. My withdrawals didn’t hit me till day 5 because I was taking 3 8-mil Buprenorphine pills per day all in half’s. I’ve been pounding water after water. Also what I think helps me at least, CBD gummies to take a very small edge off even tho I don’t smoke weed, and lots of showers, walking around as much as I can even tho no motiv or desire to want to do a thing. Fortunately in the same situation as you my wife works, it’s Covid and not working and I’m tired of being in that loop with doctors and pharmacy’s ripping me off. Anyways, I really appreciate this video. Do you have any other people you related to and watched? I’m not sure if you’re responding to these but JW. Thanks again. It’s hard for sure, but doable if you really really want to. I stopped from this dosage to 0 cold turkey.
Thank you I’m a month clean after 30 years on meth and I’m in metal and physical pain to the maxi I’m in torture and tortured it’s hell I don’t know if I’m going to make it I’m in a Tornado I’m up in it I’m being wipped away I stayed on it to long but if it kills me I won’t touch it again no sleep no rest no way out it’s terrible but I done it to myself and this is pay back time and if I do make it I got at least 6 months of this I’m nauseous all the time my head is buzzing we’re my brain is panicking and so is my body I have no energy at all im lost and scared and 60 I have got to pay for the abuse I put I my body in but heart ❣ ache and physical emotional and pain kept it going now it time to stand up to it but it’s so very hard man good luck with your Journey I know you’re probably really well today I’m happy for you man
keyna Tyler its crazu but i feel like you are talking about my life..i am methadone for almost 20 years right ni am sick 12 mm and look impossible to quit ..i hope you are doing good after all this months ...
I'm at 72 hours, I'm fortunate midnight is the time of last dosage of suboxone. I'm glad I'm seeing someone that didn't do daily progress because that can be disappointing hearing other people detailing it gets worse after this point. I hope to be myself again after 3 relapses at 24 with having 3 years clean at one time in-between.
Day 20 here, why the hell am I not okay? I’ve used Suboxone for 5 years. The acute withdrawal symptoms are gone but the restlessness and aches are still there.
Thank you , your videos are very real and encouraging. I have been on subs 10+ yrs never a high dose. I am tapering now down to 1mg. Have been on 2mg for a yr. Doctor tells me no big deal I should be able to jump off if I want to. But finding that to be a Big jump. Hope you are doing well . 🌻
Tammy Lyn Ask him or her how many times they themselves have jumped off with "no problem" : D But seriously, thats fantastic! I am very happy to hear that you are well on your way. It really will be no big deal in the grand scheme of life. You will gain so much from this experience and come out battle hardened on the other side. Keep us posted
It scares me Im just stabilized on 8 mg Was trying 4 mg for 4 months with bad results Had no energy and motivation Now is much better but again im on 8 mg We will see how it goes but Im planning to stay on 8 for few months giving me some time fir healing and then cut it to 4
How small do u want? The company suboxone doesnt make anything smaller than 2mg... stop complaining. I tapered down to mg had no very veryminor withdraws comin off...
I’m on day 14 I ended up trying gabapenton and it works great for me the first 2 days on it were a little rough with dizziness and tiredness but that went away by the 3rd and I haven’t missed 1 day if work so I’m going to start tapering off the gabapenton tomorrow
@Marcus Ralius Reeder to be honest it took a while not with the sickness but with the anxiety I found my self saying to myself omg how am I going to get through this day and my heart would start pounding and there was this dude his name was Joey and he could see it in my face what I was going through and he said to me that these feelings I’m having are coming in waves you’ll feel like shit for 10 minutes and then it goes away for an hour then the wave hits again but just remember it’s going to go away
@Marcus Ralius Reeder hey if truly serious about this email me jamesmoran5273@gmail.com I do not want any money from you at all I got a full time job I just want to help people break out of this cycle
Yes, the malaise is the worst part.im on day 40 and I'm still not out of the woods by a long shot. However, slowly but surely every day gets better. Thanks for this video.
I'm still on Suboxone 8mg- 12mg, + XANAX... I WANT OFF! SO SCARED, NO SUPPORT FROM SPOUSE! WHERE DO I BEGIN? AFRAID I WILL DIE IN PROCESS, IVE TRIED BEFORE I CAN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I HAVE NO WILL POWER! HELP!ADVICE!🙏
Linda Rodriguez Having support from someone you live with will be paramount here. Tell me why he or she doesnt support you if you dont mind sharing. This is not something you will want to do while living with someone who isnt "on board". Let me know what goin on. Im here to chat friend.
Linda were on in the same, 12 mg suboxone, 2, 2mg xanax daily 2 years (thanks doc) he really cured our addictions huh? From my experience. And this is just me lose the benzodiazepines first. They're "harder" to come off of, mostly it's the seizure risk. Suboxone helps in coming off the benzos barely but once you're over that. The suboxone will be pretty easy. I'm having rebound anxiety and post acute withdrawal symptoms that literally make me think I am going to die. My heart jumps I'll get the brain zaps and seizure feeling (light headed electrical pulses from my neck deep into the brain) but mostly it's the heart attack feeling. I get flush red faced hot burning sweating and spiked heart rates. I've thought I was going to die in 5 minute intervals for the first like month. Straight with no let up. I HAD to taper the benzos. That was not an option for me. I tapered both medications at once. It may be best to start off this way but I wouldn't "jump off" both at once like I did.
I dont know how much vitamin c you are taking but I do know excess amounts can also cause diarrhea. When I watched your day 4 I was thinking dude the withdrawal hasn't even started yet. It usually takes me roughly 5 days off Suboxone before "real" withdrawal starts.
im on day 22 and still cant sleep more than like 2 hrs RLS drives me nuts, i eat constanly and have tummy aches , but i started taking some neurontin and sleeping pill for RLS, so idk i feel like im cheating and later ill have to withdraw from neurontin n sleeping pills, but at least with those 2 i get like 5 or 6 hrs of sleep, which i need or i wont b able to function at all, but it is alot better than fisrt 2 weeks!
I started taking subs because I was taking opiates for a couple years and some sold me a fake 30 that was straight fent luckily I only took a half and it almost killed me. I’ve been off subs for 8 days now feeling ok just can’t sleep and dreading going back to work Monday. I work in a freezer for 10 hours a day it’s going to be rough
He wes how are you? That's good that you don't feel nauseous. that's one of the big things that scares me along with maybe having a rapid heart rate the entire time? I don't want that.
What’s up bro I hope you’re doing good. I got encouragement from you on day 3 when I was feeling so bad and alone. I’m on day 8 and I feel amazing!!! No anything mental just sleep and some stomach pains but I laugh at those compared to sweating and sneezing and anxiety from the first week lol. I’m a chemical engineer and just got a new great job after searching for months. It’s like my life gets so much better each day. I cry like a girl sometimes now from all the new emotions but I love it. I drive and listen to music like it’s the first time I’ve done it. I would suggest to people that using a sauna in conjunction with vitamins, water+amino acids, and mental supplements sped this up so much for me. Thanks for the inspiration. I truly needed it. I’m a new man that gets better each day. I get angry when I get cravings. I’ll never go back! Good luck😎
tyler brown Thats all great to hear friend. I often wonder what my experience would have been had I never researched he subject of suboxone detox...had I never read a single horror story. So much of what we go through (anxiety in particular) is born out of our own anticipation. If a person can find a way to stay very objective ("I am doing this for a great reason, and I WILL get better over time") and try to stay focused on that it really helps. Its when we get caught up in the moment, thinking about how bad we feel right that second that things spiral out of control. Please keep checking in. So happy for you and congrats on the job.
I’ll keep ya updated. One quick question... did you experience some sweating. I thought I was over it but like in the evenings I’ll sweat bad on my chest and back and I’m it’s 25 degrees right now where I live so when I walk outside it’s so cold. If you had sweating did it stop after a month or so?
tyler brown I had strange sweats in my palms, arm pits and feet. It wasnt terrible but seemed to come on when I was anxious. Those came and went until about day 60 or so.
Dang bummer lol not that big of a deal I can live with that I was just going you’d say like 2 weeks ha it’s gonna be a long ass winter. I’ll check in after I’ve made some progress. Stay strong 💪
hey bro hope youre doing well just checking in to say i Havent given up and am past day 30 and still chucking foraward. ive been going to the gym every day, I started my new job making bank, and im a much better person to my child and wife. Life is good i still get sweaty at night but its not like im soaked and its always when im having weird dreams. All is good and I try to stop thinking of suboxone and quit watching videos on it. I am focusing on moving forward and staying so busy I forget I kicked it for sometimes for 2 days which you know is a big deal lol good luck bro which im sure youre doing great at this point
I'm on day 6 and I went outside yesterday and the day befor and I noticed the sun really hurts my eyes and i kinda see things blurry i think it mite be from my pupils being so diolated . Kinda freaked me out
hey! you mention not getting much sleep & insomnia being your worst symptom, but never said how many hours a night you were sleeping around that time.. do you happen to remember (roughly)?
Alexandra K Between days 5-30 sleep was touch and go. There were many nights where I did not sleep at all. Other nights I would get about 1-2 hours, wake up for 3 hours and watch youtube, then sleep 1 more hour. Falling asleep is a struggle. Your mind won't shut off even though your body is exhausted. Yes, it sucks, BUT my sleep got much better after day 30 or so, and has been 100% normal since day 50 I think. You will reach a breaking point with frustration but you must trust the process. It will get better.
Man I needed to read that! I'm on day 20 and the lack of sleep is the absolute worst! I'm sticking it out no matter what but damn this no sleep shit really sucks!
I'm tapering Subutex, started at 16 mg for about 7 years. i am tapering down 2 mg a week, down to 14 mg a day this week. Did you have anxiety attacks? I have Klonopin 0.5 mg that the psychiatrist gave me. He does not know I am tapering yet but said I could take Klonopin for my anxiety attacks which I also want to get off. Just wondering if you had anxiety and what what did you do for it?
Hey man this is inspirational what mg did you finally jump off from and what was your taper method? Ive been on about a mg a day for 2 weeks took .75 today was planning on using my last strips 8 mg at .5 for 8 days .25 for 8 days then .125 for 8 days then hopping but im terrified of the wd...is it bad or will it be tolerable?
Cory Shields Hey there friend. Let me start by telling you there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Reserve that kind of fear for the unknown...This is so very tolerable. But the person must be ready and without reservation about what they are doing. If you truley believe that now is your time to jump, then you will be fine. I did not really taper. I got down from 8mg/day to 2mg/day over the course of 4-6 weeks. Based on my short "taper" there are many who would have told me I would experience hell...that the depression would be crushing and could last years...or forever! Well 136 days later I can tell you that just isn't so. I am happy, healthy, full of laughs, sleep 8 hours a night without issue, and have a great sex drive. Remember, it IS the fear that makes this so much harder. Fear not!
Goodbye Suboxone thanks dude ive got my last couple stripa then im done so hopefully all goes well your feedback has given me more motivation than anything i could find on the internet....rhx bro
Jessica R Bostic wow! Big jump! I’m on day 23. Was getting subs off the street so my doses were completely not regulated. Withdrawals are present but not nearly as difficult as days 1-10. I realize your post was 6 months ago. How are you now? My prayers are with you and all who are struggling with this demon.
“Be sober, be vigilant; because the devil.. as a roaring lion, walketh about.. seeking whom he may devour”
1 Peter 5:8
Jesus loves you !
Hi tricia
Imagine believing in a so called God 🤣🤣😭
Pat Fenis732 imagine not...
@@Tricia-h3p I know. But you have absolutely no facts to support that. And most of them that were in the so called Bible have been disproven. But whatever. You pray to your old hairy man in the. Clouds dressed like a wizard 🤣🤣🤣 and I'll so me.
Pat Fenis732 I feel bad for you... so I will try and be a light untoo your life quickly- just so on your personal day of judgement you will never be able to say nobody told you. There is a GOD, his name is Jesus Christ- he is real, he came to earth as man and tried to give us important messages in the scripture, maybe just go look up some of what he taught about to start, than you can take it from there. The Bible is the most historically accurate book ever written and not one single thing has ever been a contraindication- study the scriptures for yourself, or be the devils little spokesmen without even knowing it... your call. God bless you and your family hunn..
Just wanted to stop and say THANK YOU. This is %1000 a mental and spiritual process. I’m on day 12 and can tell a world of a difference. While yes it has been hell for me, I feel it has affected those around me more than anything. The depression and sympathy is high but the will to keep going is not going away. Lack of sleep and ability to get comfortable due to muscle pain is where it’s the roughest. Your videos have gotten me through a lot and I just wanted to say thanks. You don’t know me but you’ve touched me from miles away and have made a huge impact in helping me get through this process. I’m not huge on religion but I encourage anyone trying to just be open to it, even just the thought.
Hang in there, it looks like the worst may be over. I've been on it for 12 years. Tried quitting a few times but when the exhaustion and inability to sleep well was still not getting better after 30 then couldn't take it anymore. Started on 16mg then got down to 8 five years ago. Now down to 1mg a day and hopefully ill be off for good within couple of months. New patients should be told about the problems they'll face down the road and should taper off quickly and not be kept on it for more than a year. Good luck!
Stevee D Hey man....Really glad you found my video. I need to tell you that last night...for the 1st time I SLEPT!!
3 hours, then a bathroom trip, then another 3 hours, then another...
AND I didnt sweat out my sheets.
I dont want to get too excited about this, but this has been an incredible milestone for me.
Not only did I sleep, but I do not remember tossing and turning each time after waking...It was like head down, lights out, DONE...Like a normal person!!
I hope this give you some hope. My gut feeling is that perhaps you jumped at too high a dose wheb you tried the 1st time OR you had too much stress in your life at the time.
I know that once you get down low enough, and have mentally and spiritually prepared yourself, YOU WILL DO IT
Keep in touch ny friend
Goodbye Suboxone: the mental aspect plays a huge part because it's not just a physical addiction it's also psychological so part of the plan to go off has to be mentally preparing yourself and believing you can do it. I look forward to having a clear mind. Thanks for your reply, I look forward to your future clips.
Goodbye Suboxone: by the way, my shrink actually mentionned a couple of times that I might want to stay on low dose of 1mg indefinitely because it's been found to help with depression. (I have chronic depression). and to make things worse he put me on methylphenidate to help with low energy. But at least there's no physical dependency with that.
Stevee D My take and experience is that only you can decide whether or not to stay on or get off completely. Nobody can tell you what is "right" for you.
For me, I never planned my detox. All my circumstances came together in a bit of synchronicity which opened my mind up to the idea and eventually the decision...Once I made the decision, I never looked back. Your moment of synchronicity WILL COME.
I'm on the same boat, where you at now?
The first thing I noticed was how much brighter light seemed. I almost feel like the energy of the earth i was numb to is finally coming through.
Yeah that happened to me aswell. I believe it's the pupils dialating from flight or fight response. Aka the withdrawals. Just like going and having your eyes dilated at the doctor and having to wear those huge shades lol. I do believe it's also our bodies experiencing energy and life again too.
@@justintime753 I noticed that too. For me everything looks gray at first. Like a tint. And the air smelled so bad. Everything smelled like chemicals. Drove me nuts. I would close my eyes and cover my nose
@@justintime753 yes
Just wanted to say, thank you, I'm 25 and I've been on and off heroin and suboxone, and blues for 10 years. I've been consistently on sub for a couple of years now. What some people don't know is metabolism has a lot to do with the duration of withdrawals and how quickly they come on. I'm about 5'10 150Ibs and drugs get out of my system super quick, so I was in full withdrawal around 40 hours in or so. I'm on day 3 was down to taking about a 1/4 of an 8.7 zubsolv every day, last night was super rough absolutely no sleep, assume tonight will be mostly the same. But I will get through this!
I feel sooo much better today. However, my house is completely shot! I literally wash a dish & a utensil every evening to eat. 😆. I’m just so disgusted with Subs that I have to make it through this. Thank you for the video.
Thanks for your video. I am on day 7 and been back at work since day 3. I run a small company and it has been super tough but manageable. I think the more you stay busy the faster time goes by. My mind is is getting less foggy everyday. FYI 6 Years of subox at 12-16 mg a day then tapered for the last 3 months.
Mark Stuart Outstanding! These truley are the stories we need to hear more about. Enough of the horror stories about how this is impossible. Very happy for you sir.
Mark Stuart How many mg's did you taper down to before you jumped?
20-24 mg a day for 7 years went down to 16 a day for one week then down to 12 for a week then down to 8 for a week then down to 4 for a week then to 2 for a week and I'm on day 7 today . I can smell again i can taste again i can feel again .Everyday seems to be a little bit better . its not easy but i believe its worth it . Thankfully we are here that's all i can say . Suboxone is a shitty deal and not prescribed right . My bro never wanted to take it because of this and he's dead now . If i didn't get on this when i did i wouldn't be here right now so whatever the F i gotta deal with now i'll get through this and so will YOU !
Thank you so much. This has helped me motivationally more than you could ever know!
Kandis Kane Thanks Kandis. That means a lot. Check in with us as often as you like. Good luck!
Hi kandy
I’m on day 2. I haven’t been a big smoker for awhile now but edibles and smoke really help me. I’ve also bought some kratom but I’m not really big on it either although it does help you get through the day. I’ve been using subxone for about two years & I’m done with it..The journey starts now. Good luck with yours man. Thank you for making this videos.
Is the kratom working? What mlg of subs were u on when u stopped?
Robert Paraday I’m still struggling to be honest. I’m trying to taper down right now..I was never prescribed suboxone. I had to buy it off people who had it but I pretty much did an 8mg tablet almost everyday for two years.
Robert Paraday Kratom does work I just don’t really care for it. It makes me feel dizzy and I’ll piss literally all day. It might not affect you the same way as it does me though. I’ve heard a lot of good things about it from other people. Maybe I need to get a different kind.
Robert Paraday apart from that it has definitely helped me the days I’ve taken it for sickness I’m just not big on it like most people are
I feel like such a stalker. I rewatch everybody’s sub withdrawal videos. At the tail end of my taper, and these videos really make me feel more hopeful.
That's what i do i watch the sub videos and it really helps knowing im not the only one that fights with the devil
Ricky Harvey same here! It’s something nobody else can understand, unless they have been on it themselves.
did you ever get off? Took me 7 trys to finaly get off them.
@@williamwinn948 I did! And I'm happier than ever! Congratulations to you! It's really hard.
Ugh! I’m getting ready to start. I’m scared to death
Hang in there brother. It takes a while. I've been on Suboxone, 20mg per day and I'm feeling somewhat better. I go through most of the things you mentioned including constipation but it all outweighs the bad. I wish you nothing but success. God bless you brother. Much love.
I'm beginning this letting go of suboxone myself after almost eight years. I've tapered myself this last year and I've gotten down to about one milligram and i stopped going to doctor which was a big decision but I've been building my body and brain with nootropics and nutrition but it's time and will continue to work towards this all to be the past... Thanks for making these videos
Josh Roudebush Thanks for being here : )
Josh Roudebush hello. I was wondering what kind of nootropics you have liked? I have been on sub for8 years as well and I am at 1 mg as well. I am about to do a .25 taper so I was just wondering what you took. Good job
THE MOOSH L-theanine,DMEA, Bacopa, and lions mane....
It's a struggle but worth it!!! Good luck to you!!!
How are you making out now? I’m thinking of weening down and stopping going to the doctor but I’m scared of making that leap to just stop going to the doctor and finish a taper with what ever I have left. I see all these people that are sick for months and it scares the hell out of me.
I'm 15 days now without Suboxone or Subutex, still can't sleep. I have been a hermit, thankfully I have a wonderful wife that understands what I'm doing with the detox and two amazing boys I want to be there for, I went to town yesterday and the sun was so damn bright I thought I was going to run someone over trying to find a parking spot. You're doing a great thing with the videos, I appreciate it all. It's good to know others are feeling the same way and that I'm just not crazy...
Dude you are a rock star! Good job
I am really impressed how you're describing the details on day 20. I get the worse brain fog that I lose train of thought really easy. On day 41 and there's no way I'll be able to have a 20min conversation. By the way you do a great job on all your videos
Again thankyou for the vids my friend. Day 27 for me. Better than yesterday. It's the crappy sleep that plays on me the most now.
Lovely to see a positive video about coming off subutex. I'm currently doing the same I was put on it in August, then a few weeks ago I was told by my prescriber that there taking me off it (I wanted to come off but no where near as fast as there bringing me down) I was on 18mg but not stable,then I was brought down to 16mg the next week 14mg then the withdrawal symptoms got bad. I asked for the taper to be slowed down, or some meds to help they said we will help we will speed it up to 4mg a week to get it over with! I asked them not to but they did anyway. I'm currently on 6mgI'm having bad symptoms, very little sleep, constantly yawning eyes watering,nose running,aching legs and back, anxiety, nausea,no appetite, stomach cramps that are agony , allways cold,and feeling weak and no energy. My drug service after a family member complained to them how ill I was have agreed to let me stay on 6mg over Christmas but then back to drops 2mg a week untill I hit 2mg then nothing. I asked could I go lower than 2mg but was told no as it wouldn't make a difference (I disagree) they've also told me I'm proloning my withdrawell symptoms and making it worse for myself by staying on 6mg over Xmas (again I disagree,I think I'm giving my body chance to catch up!) What's your opinion on it? Should I jump at 6mg like they said (mind you these are the same people who told me it's like mild flu and won't last more than 2 weeks and then I'll be fine) or should I taper? Thank you so much!
That is messed up. They shouldn't be allowed to do that.
To taper down from 16 mg should take many months. I think the rule is only go down by 10% each time & only if you aren't already having strong withdrawal symptoms. You're right about your body needing time to adjust.
If NOTHING else is taken from this, make them give you the 2 mg strips, that way you have access to going lower than 2 mgs. Cutting the 8s into fractional pieces can be difficult in dosing and it's just better to have the 2 mg strips. Trust me, you will be happy you did. You can also try to find a "connect" for them, as that's some bullshit and doctors do not always know what is best. But then again neither do I. You'll know what you need more than I or even a doctor will. There is no shame in "doctor shopping" or buying these things off the street as I did 8 YEARS of heroin IV use, and I can confirm suboxone produces the same withdrawal effects. Just longer. I urge you to accept these feelings. As they are coming. They are as bad or as good as you decide to make it. Over the counter medication help barely imodium is a life saver, it activates gastrointestinal opoid receptors AND because they do not cross the blood brain barrier they will not give the dreaded precipitated withdrawals. If you need anything, ask. I have years of experience on this subject :p
Yes, thank you for this. I watch them over and over just for motivation. I’m on day 12 and finally feeling partiality better. Can’t sleep, toss and turn, maybe get an hour or few hours per Night, but better than when I couldn’t on days 6-10. I’ve eaten at least a couple fruits a day cause that’s all I was able to eat in the beginning when I chewed 100 times to swallow. Finally getting a small appetite days 10-12. My withdrawals didn’t hit me till day 5 because I was taking 3 8-mil Buprenorphine pills per day all in half’s. I’ve been pounding water after water. Also what I think helps me at least, CBD gummies to take a very small edge off even tho I don’t smoke weed, and lots of showers, walking around as much as I can even tho no motiv or desire to want to do a thing. Fortunately in the same situation as you my wife works, it’s Covid and not working and I’m tired of being in that loop with doctors and pharmacy’s ripping me off. Anyways, I really appreciate this video. Do you have any other people you related to and watched? I’m not sure if you’re responding to these but JW. Thanks again. It’s hard for sure, but doable if you really really want to. I stopped from this dosage to 0 cold turkey.
were you better by day 30?
I'm on day 21!!!!! It has been hard. But I promise it gets better. Ty for ur videos man
Thank you I’m a month clean after 30 years on meth and I’m in metal and physical pain to the maxi I’m in torture and tortured it’s hell I don’t know if I’m going to make it I’m in a Tornado I’m up in it I’m being wipped away I stayed on it to long but if it kills me I won’t touch it again no sleep no rest no way out it’s terrible but I done it to myself and this is pay back time and if I do make it I got at least 6 months of this I’m nauseous all the time my head is buzzing we’re my brain is panicking and so is my body I have no energy at all im lost and scared and 60 I have got to pay for the abuse I put I my body in but heart ❣ ache and physical emotional and pain kept it going now it time to stand up to it but it’s so very hard man good luck with your Journey I know you’re probably really well today I’m happy for you man
keyna Tyler its crazu but i feel like you are talking about my life..i am methadone for almost 20 years right ni am sick 12 mm and look impossible to quit ..i hope you are doing good after all this months ...
No your videos are not long there perfect good information you can never get enough.
I'm at 72 hours, I'm fortunate midnight is the time of last dosage of suboxone. I'm glad I'm seeing someone that didn't do daily progress because that can be disappointing hearing other people detailing it gets worse after this point. I hope to be myself again after 3 relapses at 24 with having 3 years clean at one time in-between.
Day 20 here, why the hell am I not okay? I’ve used Suboxone for 5 years. The acute withdrawal symptoms are gone but the restlessness and aches are still there.
Me too
@@candeceseagrist4895 Don’t worry, it finally goes away and you feel fine.
Your giving me hope. I'm terribly scared to cold Turkey off suboxone... I'm in day 5 and I'm so ready!!! Thank you!
Hi gore
Thank you , your videos are very real and encouraging. I have been on subs 10+ yrs never a high dose. I am tapering now down to 1mg. Have been on 2mg for a yr. Doctor tells me no big deal I should be able to jump off if I want to. But finding that to be a Big jump. Hope you are doing well . 🌻
Tammy Lyn Ask him or her how many times they themselves have jumped off with "no problem" : D
But seriously, thats fantastic! I am very happy to hear that you are well on your way. It really will be no big deal in the grand scheme of life. You will gain so much from this experience and come out battle hardened on the other side. Keep us posted
It scares me
Im just stabilized on 8 mg
Was trying 4 mg for 4 months with bad results
Had no energy and motivation
Now is much better but again im on 8 mg
We will see how it goes but Im planning to stay on 8 for few months giving me some time fir healing and then cut it to 4
Maciej Konferowicz Lower by .5mg at a time, it'll be a lot easier that way.
How small do u want? The company suboxone doesnt make anything smaller than 2mg... stop complaining. I tapered down to mg had no very veryminor withdraws comin off...
I’m on day 14 I ended up trying gabapenton and it works great for me the first 2 days on it were a little rough with dizziness and tiredness but that went away by the 3rd and I haven’t missed 1 day if work so I’m going to start tapering off the gabapenton tomorrow
@Marcus Ralius Reeder I’m clean brother I still drink though but that’s about it
@Marcus Ralius Reeder to be honest it took a while not with the sickness but with the anxiety I found my self saying to myself omg how am I going to get through this day and my heart would start pounding and there was this dude his name was Joey and he could see it in my face what I was going through and he said to me that these feelings I’m having are coming in waves you’ll feel like shit for 10 minutes and then it goes away for an hour then the wave hits again but just remember it’s going to go away
@Marcus Ralius Reeder hey if truly serious about this email me jamesmoran5273@gmail.com
I do not want any money from you at all I got a full time job I just want to help people break out of this cycle
@Marcus Ralius Reeder hey drink plenty of water you want your piss to clear as water
I can't seem to considerate on something anything. Thats my only problem day 8 for me,standing strong
Yes, the malaise is the worst part.im on day 40 and I'm still not out of the woods by a long shot. However, slowly but surely every day gets better. Thanks for this video.
I’m on day 14. This gave me hope
I'm still on Suboxone 8mg- 12mg, + XANAX... I WANT OFF! SO SCARED, NO SUPPORT FROM SPOUSE! WHERE DO I BEGIN? AFRAID I WILL DIE IN PROCESS, IVE TRIED BEFORE I CAN'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I HAVE NO WILL POWER! HELP!ADVICE!🙏
Linda Rodriguez Having support from someone you live with will be paramount here. Tell me why he or she doesnt support you if you dont mind sharing. This is not something you will want to do while living with someone who isnt "on board". Let me know what goin on. Im here to chat friend.
Linda Rodriguez Hey there! How’s it going Linda?
Linda were on in the same, 12 mg suboxone, 2, 2mg xanax daily 2 years (thanks doc) he really cured our addictions huh? From my experience. And this is just me lose the benzodiazepines first. They're "harder" to come off of, mostly it's the seizure risk. Suboxone helps in coming off the benzos barely but once you're over that. The suboxone will be pretty easy. I'm having rebound anxiety and post acute withdrawal symptoms that literally make me think I am going to die. My heart jumps I'll get the brain zaps and seizure feeling (light headed electrical pulses from my neck deep into the brain) but mostly it's the heart attack feeling. I get flush red faced hot burning sweating and spiked heart rates. I've thought I was going to die in 5 minute intervals for the first like month. Straight with no let up. I HAD to taper the benzos. That was not an option for me. I tapered both medications at once. It may be best to start off this way but I wouldn't "jump off" both at once like I did.
Wonder how Linda is doing.
I dont know how much vitamin c you are taking but I do know excess amounts can also cause diarrhea. When I watched your day 4 I was thinking dude the withdrawal hasn't even started yet. It usually takes me roughly 5 days off Suboxone before "real" withdrawal starts.
im on day 22 and still cant sleep more than like 2 hrs RLS drives me nuts, i eat constanly and have tummy aches , but i started taking some neurontin and sleeping pill for RLS, so idk i feel like im cheating and later ill have to withdraw from neurontin n sleeping pills, but at least with those 2 i get like 5 or 6 hrs of sleep, which i need or i wont b able to function at all, but it is alot better than fisrt 2 weeks!
I started taking subs because I was taking opiates for a couple years and some sold me a fake 30 that was straight fent luckily I only took a half and it almost killed me. I’ve been off subs for 8 days now feeling ok just can’t sleep and dreading going back to work Monday. I work in a freezer for 10 hours a day it’s going to be rough
You’re a honest guy. I like your vids. It’s a hell of a thing to go throw!
Nimitz 17 Sure is. Thanks for stopping by and for the kind words.
He wes how are you? That's good that you don't feel nauseous. that's one of the big things that scares me along with maybe having a rapid heart rate the entire time? I don't want that.
What’s up bro I hope you’re doing good. I got encouragement from you on day 3 when I was feeling so bad and alone. I’m on day 8 and I feel amazing!!! No anything mental just sleep and some stomach pains but I laugh at those compared to sweating and sneezing and anxiety from the first week lol. I’m a chemical engineer and just got a new great job after searching for months. It’s like my life gets so much better each day. I cry like a girl sometimes now from all the new emotions but I love it. I drive and listen to music like it’s the first time I’ve done it. I would suggest to people that using a sauna in conjunction with vitamins, water+amino acids, and mental supplements sped this up so much for me. Thanks for the inspiration. I truly needed it. I’m a new man that gets better each day. I get angry when I get cravings. I’ll never go back! Good luck😎
tyler brown Thats all great to hear friend. I often wonder what my experience would have been had I never researched he subject of suboxone detox...had I never read a single horror story. So much of what we go through (anxiety in particular) is born out of our own anticipation. If a person can find a way to stay very objective ("I am doing this for a great reason, and I WILL get better over time") and try to stay focused on that it really helps. Its when we get caught up in the moment, thinking about how bad we feel right that second that things spiral out of control. Please keep checking in. So happy for you and congrats on the job.
I’ll keep ya updated. One quick question... did you experience some sweating. I thought I was over it but like in the evenings I’ll sweat bad on my chest and back and I’m it’s 25 degrees right now where I live so when I walk outside it’s so cold. If you had sweating did it stop after a month or so?
tyler brown I had strange sweats in my palms, arm pits and feet. It wasnt terrible but seemed to come on when I was anxious. Those came and went until about day 60 or so.
Dang bummer lol not that big of a deal I can live with that I was just going you’d say like 2 weeks ha it’s gonna be a long ass winter. I’ll check in after I’ve made some progress. Stay strong 💪
hey bro hope youre doing well just checking in to say i Havent given up and am past day 30 and still chucking foraward. ive been going to the gym every day, I started my new job making bank, and im a much better person to my child and wife. Life is good i still get sweaty at night but its not like im soaked and its always when im having weird dreams. All is good and I try to stop thinking of suboxone and quit watching videos on it. I am focusing on moving forward and staying so busy I forget I kicked it for sometimes for 2 days which you know is a big deal lol good luck bro which im sure youre doing great at this point
I'm on day 6 and I went outside yesterday and the day befor and I noticed the sun really hurts my eyes and i kinda see things blurry i think it mite be from my pupils being so diolated . Kinda freaked me out
same here eric.... its so bright everywhere lmao
I'm on day 13 & it just snowed. I can't go outside, even with sunglasses on. Lol
hey! you mention not getting much sleep & insomnia being your worst symptom, but never said how many hours a night you were sleeping around that time.. do you happen to remember (roughly)?
Alexandra K Between days 5-30 sleep was touch and go. There were many nights where I did not sleep at all. Other nights I would get about 1-2 hours, wake up for 3 hours and watch youtube, then sleep 1 more hour. Falling asleep is a struggle. Your mind won't shut off even though your body is exhausted. Yes, it sucks, BUT my sleep got much better after day 30 or so, and has been 100% normal since day 50 I think. You will reach a breaking point with frustration but you must trust the process. It will get better.
Man I needed to read that! I'm on day 20 and the lack of sleep is the absolute worst! I'm sticking it out no matter what but damn this no sleep shit really sucks!
I'm tapering Subutex, started at 16 mg for about 7 years. i am tapering down 2 mg a week, down to 14 mg a day this week. Did you have anxiety attacks? I have Klonopin 0.5 mg that the psychiatrist gave me. He does not know I am tapering yet but said I could take Klonopin for my anxiety attacks which I also want to get off. Just wondering if you had anxiety and what what did you do for it?
Yes, and I still do.
Yeah you wanna get off that benzo my friend. Clonidine is a safer choice for the anxiety and it's not euphoric.
im one of the no sleep people
Hey man this is inspirational what mg did you finally jump off from and what was your taper method? Ive been on about a mg a day for 2 weeks took .75 today was planning on using my last strips 8 mg at .5 for 8 days .25 for 8 days then .125 for 8 days then hopping but im terrified of the wd...is it bad or will it be tolerable?
Cory Shields Hey there friend. Let me start by telling you there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Reserve that kind of fear for the unknown...This is so very tolerable. But the person must be ready and without reservation about what they are doing. If you truley believe that now is your time to jump, then you will be fine. I did not really taper. I got down from 8mg/day to 2mg/day over the course of 4-6 weeks. Based on my short "taper" there are many who would have told me I would experience hell...that the depression would be crushing and could last years...or forever!
Well 136 days later I can tell you that just isn't so. I am happy, healthy, full of laughs, sleep 8 hours a night without issue, and have a great sex drive. Remember, it IS the fear that makes this so much harder. Fear not!
Goodbye Suboxone thanks dude ive got my last couple stripa then im done so hopefully all goes well your feedback has given me more motivation than anything i could find on the internet....rhx bro
How long until these chills go away they are killing me im on day 4
Hello really liked the video, how long does the restless leg last...
get some magnesium w/ melatonin- the RLS is awful.
I went a week and that was all I could make it. When does it curb?
Did you stop using sub 6 mg a day at once,or you are taper it down.
Did you have anxiety coming off it?
Im on my day 9 and this is fucking terrible..I jumped off from 8s. Looking for some hope anywhere!
Jessica R Bostic wow! Big jump! I’m on day 23. Was getting subs off the street so my doses were completely not regulated. Withdrawals are present but not nearly as difficult as days 1-10. I realize your post was 6 months ago. How are you now? My prayers are with you and all who are struggling with this demon.
Day 20 for me and sleep is hit or miss
6 mg a day and you get sick like that. This shits the devil wow!!!
Metoclopramide for dearea, Xanax for sleep.
Plz let us know how your doing
You come off suboxone cold turkey?
Anyone have vision trouble
Love this. Thank you, sir.
Your back on subs. You don't feel that good homie on day 20. Sorry
Well I'll let u know soon. I'm tapering right now planning to get off in a month