Micro Tube Amp Shootout! | Orange | Joyo | Peavey
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
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Today's (long) video features three micro hybrid amps from Orange, Peavey and Joyo! Let's see how these tiny lunchboxes do!
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Hey folks, hope you're enjoying this long video!
Here's a little help to navigate:
Full mix:
4:30 Peavey
5:37 Joyo
6:46 Orange
7:54 Laney
Playthrough:
9:02 Joyo
10:33 Peavey
11:20 Orange
13:15 Discussion and verdict
Great stuff :)
+Soulhenge Gear Reviews Any plans on reviewing the Mooer ge200?? I'd be really interested in hearing your thoughts on it and how you think it stacks up vs the hd500 and helix
Well I do believe I shot myself in the foot here so just ignore me lol. Just watched your unboxing video for the ge200 and in that video you said you were planning on checking it out and seeing how it was next to the hd500. I can't wait to see!
Haha, the GE200 Video is uploading as I'm typing this comment, should be online in a few hours ;)
Soulhenge Gear Reviews the Micro dark sounded fuller and more like a real tube amp compared to the others.
this gotta be one of the best tracks I've heard in youtube guitar gear demos
Great video! I own the MicroDark and I have a couple of comments. First, I basically agree with all you’ve said except about the Orange not being for metal. Depends on what kind of metal. I play more doomy, down-tempo stuff and when you crank the gain, with the Shape knob at noon it’s a massive slab of sound. Second, the headphone out DOES have a cab sim on it. It’s not as bad as you describe-not the best but not bad at all. When you put it through a 4x12 all the negative aspects seems to disappear. Lastly, about the volume.....yeah, I hate when amp companies have a volume knob with with 80% of the volume in the first 10% of the pot. Also, for truly. brutal tones use a boost into it fully cranked. It’s doom in a box.
I tried MicroDark yesterday in music store with 212 V30s and MXR boost, I play mostly metalcore, deathcore and stuff like gojira and it sounded fucking great! The trick for good metal Orange tone is that Oranges have that sweet spot near max of the gain! Now I want to sell my Boss Katana (home practise amp) and buy this because this sounds a lot better!!!
I own one as well. I'm not sure if someone at Orange is into sludge but that slab of sound lasts well into Drop A territory. It's amazing but that volume knob... such sweet sorrow.
I got mine Recently. I use it for old-school Thrash/Speed Metal, with a Ibanez TS9 in front of it. At the end of the day, it's how you set the tone know on the amp that matters, as having it at around 1 - 2 o'clock will sound tighter, than having it at anything before 12 o'clock, which sounds more muddy and thick and good for doom/sludge stuff. Your speakers also play a key part. The Orange cab I have with ot is a bit crap, and I mostly use ot for practice, however when recording I use Ignite Amps NadIR with Slayer Impulse Responses, which results in a thrashier tone. In fact, while amps can change your tone's character, it's the speakers that will make or break said tone, as they're what actually puts your sound out there into the physical realm, for people to hear. Honestly, I find the Orange sounds really heavy and is a massive step up from Amp Sims, as my tone now has more body and sounds professional.
@@AnkothOfficial The Orange has excellent dynamics even when cranked.
I recently picked up the Orange Pedalbaby 100 to solve the 'not loud enough' issue.
Killer piece of gear.
Also, the MD fulfills an important criteria-I can use the tone for rhythm and lead and both sound excellent.
Yeah the orange kicks absolute ass for metal it's the only metal amp. Funny comments I also use mine for metal. It is the sound!!
why am i not subscribed yet
Because he doesn't play 035
People just hate seeing a 17 year old kid with 30,000 USD worth of equipment...
Because he's not bro
Because of arabian dad
Micro dark through a 2x12 with an overdrive pedal soumds amazing. Can confirm.
jaredy18 Yep, that’s how I use mine
How it will sound with a tubes screamer pedal.
@@paulruiz4778 I use the ts808 mini and it sounds pretty damn good even through a 1x12
I own the micro dark, it's amazing how much tones You can get with clean tube sound plus every disto/overd/ fuzze/ etc you plug on it.
I had a pleasure to play on all those mini power boxes and Joyo... surprised me mostly! It's a beast.
I actually own the Orange Micro Dark so I might be a bit partial, but I think it has the most balanced tone. When your throw an Overdrive, eq, and a noise gate on it sounds amazing.
That sounds like a lot for someone starting out. I used to play bass and I'm taking up electric guitar now too. I don't wanna have to buy two pedals when I'm going cheap like this on an amp
I'm also a bit partial with my opinion, the Pirahna 6505 sounded like ass when I tried it. I fiddled with all the knobs, tried different speakers, crunch vs lead channels, nothing sounded good out of it when I tested. So either all the piranhas on YT are modified or the one I tested was broken.
Nate Gin get a used overdrive for under $70 on Reverb. You got to get a certain amount of gear to achieve any certain tone, it just depends how much research you want to do to save yourself money
SticksAndStones I own a Micro Dark too, swapped out the pre-amp tube for a JJ Gold Pin 12AU7. Use it as a pedal platform with EQ, Gate, Delay and reverb in FX Loop, front End with a Jet City dual Overdrive, ProCo Rat, EHX Big Muff OpAmp, Boss CS-3 Compressor. My cab is a Panama oversized 2x10, Gibson LP Studio and Fender Jazzmaster. I have played legit shows in large and small venues (large as in 1k people) on the regular with that setup and it’s shocking how good this amp sounds. I liked the OG tube but stacking Drives, distortions and fuzz was a nightmare. The tube swap helped out tremendously. I can push the amp and tube hard and it takes effects and my drives beautifully.
@@vids595 dude, I live in Canada. Music gear here is almost double American prices...
Finally a productive comparison between the micro amps. I'm really digging about it in order to buy one of those, and this video made my decision. I'll go with Zombie, for sure! Thank you so much.
Man I love the attitude of your music; that smokey, meaty sound and those calm but dark chords really have a special something to them. Keep up the great work, greetings from Austria
Orange is the winner. Volume, tone ,dynamics, will always win. It's EQ'd to get killer tones fast, if you use it to gig as a stand alone, and most times any lack you find can be fixed with a OD, Pre Amp, or EQ pedal , that's why OD pedals like Tube Screamers and Klons have such a mid boost.
If the Orange didn't have tube like qualities I wouldn't have bought it.
I feel these lunchbox heads almost require an EQ pedal.
Zombie has an FX loop. Add an EQ pedal and the possibilities are endless.
For sure, luckily there are a handful of cheap clone pedal companies that offer a range of different band EQs that kick ass and are basically all under 50$
@@nickdrey1200 I bought a Joyo EQ pedal for $45. Works great.
@@djtripnosys hell yeah, duder. I am a heavy proselytizer for Joyo. I, seriously, think that we have them to thank for pioneering this amazing movement of boutique level effects and products, at prices that are basically rivaled by...strings lmao
@@nickdrey1200 Even just buying a separate power amp to get to 50-100 watts is still less than half the cost of any Mesa, Marshall, Engl, etc.
The Micro Dark is my sound. Boost ->noise gate->MD full gain, Shape knob about noon,with a Cuvave Dig Reverb in the loop, all knobs fully counterclockwise. Into a Barefaced 2x12. Totally and completely crushing. Insane but controllable. Vary the gain with your pick attack. Get clean/dirty with the volume knob of your guitar.
You are so correct about the taper of the Volume pot. You hit 60% of the volume before 2 on the knob.
Even with one channel, Shape knob, Volume knob issues it’s a great amplifier.
such huge sound in da tiny stuff~
wow the orange you can really hear every string and note very clearly
I bought one with the impression "small amp small sound" good for 1 bedroom apartment ... I have never played past a 2 on volume. Its loud and very nice.
@@coreyjwingate same!, and I agree even with the volume on 2 my family still think its way too loud 😅
@@xvor_tex8577 this will be my first head and cabinet amp I’m getting because I have used combos for the last 4 years and I was gonna start small and get either the joyo or orange in this video but do U have any recommendations on a good cabinet?
Yeah, I've been considering buying the Joyo Zombie for a while since my combo broke, but I think now I'm pretty sure about it
Piranha was buried in the mix. Joyo stood out surprisingly well, powerful low end and plenty of articulation. Micro dark was impressive for the intro with the dynamics, but it turned a bit muddy past that.
Yup my very same thoughts!!!
Amen, right on the money
I have all 3 honestly the Joyo is built more solid. The Orange is built like dog poop but sounds sweet
bingo
I personally think that the Joyo Bantamp Zombie is a very good sounding little amp... especially for the money. Reminds me a lot of how the Marshall Valvestate amps sounded. They share the same sort of tech, so it’s no wonder (a single 12AX7 tube paired with a solid state power amp). For me it’s somewhat of a nostalgic sound... as when I was growing up and learning how to play, I had a Valvestate combo amp that I loved. It’s tone was amazing.
My brother sent me this video. Hadn't come across this channel before and I wouldn't have considered an amp like this, but I'm now I'm thinking I might have to. Great video man.
Dude, nice review man! You really don't get these types of reviews in Metal genre! Thank you so much! Very informative!
Excellent review, it convinced me even more to get a Joyo Zombie, thanks for posting! Cheers!
Awesome video man! This was a perfect comparison video and i think the Joyo sounded the best. It had a certain warmth to it that i absolutely loved. Keep up the good work! Greetings from India!
As an orange micro dark owner I can say that you have pointed out all of the issues that I had found with the orange I love it anyway as well! Good video keepem coming!
Great demo! That X2N's output is nuts
Thanks, the X2N has indeed an incredible amount of output and force!
Thanks man! I was going to buy a micro dark, I don't think im going to bother now!
dont tell me you thought the piranha sounded good...
The more recent Zombie II beats all of these as it has separate EQ for each channel and a footswitch to change channels
I love the drums during the breakdown section especially when the cymbal goes to the offbeat! Very tasteful.
Orange cleans sound super. I’m agree the micro all clear on every string played.
Hello, I'm from Brazil, I found your channel for some time. I would like to congratulate you on the quality of the content you produce. In my country access to some quality equipment is very difficult, any product arrives here for at least double the original value, be it a guitar, amplifier, etc.
Sim bro, é foda. In Europe you just find for E$ 370,00 a Laney Irt-studio and in Brazil at least not double but triple of the original value, plus, working with brazilian money it's like something impossible to achieve, just terrible.
Amazing video, even though I'm much more of a metalcore guy I went with the Orange for my first amp in ages (played off my PC for the past...8 years?) and with the right pedals I think I could get a super unique, incredibly responsive tone.
Excellent in-depth report!!!!!!!!!!! Very nice!!!!!
Great shootout video! To me, it was hard to tell the difference in the mix, but when you played them separately, I very clearly preferred the Joyo.It has less fizz, and is tighter and chunkier. I just wish it had a foot switch to switch channels, and a pre amp out so you can use it as a pre amp.
That's why I got a Zombie XLII, with separate knobs for each channel and a foot switch.
The Peavey has some mojo actually. I'm not really a fan of that sad face EQ modern metal sound (it sounds mid heavy, but leaves no room for bass and treble and kind of sounds squashed) but with some EQ I think I'd quite like that amp. I can see how it would work in a DAW environment.
My pick honestly has to go to the orange though, the depth is there. But you never know when watching someone else, gonna go try these out myself :)
The Joyo overdelivers more than any amp I've ever played, but the weird honkey mid sound is a little annoying at lower volumes. You turn it up super loud and they get drowned out and it just sounds like a Mesa Dual Rectifier and shakes your house. Wildly fun to play.
Out of the three lunchboxes, I liked the joyo more lol
Same here!
Yeah me too... hell.. i may even get one now.. or at least added it to the list of buying potential.. nice little thing, compared!
vomitoriumbassist heyo
I have the Joyo Zombie. It's good. It definitely needs a boost or overdrive however!
How's the joyo on a 4x12 cab?
This is the second preview of the Joyo and really enjoyed it. As a Metal player the Joyo sounds really cool and as in the other video it has a Mesa type tone which I like. On your review it does give it more Metal than the Orange. The Orange is alright but not as heavy as the Joyo. I'd like to connect two Joyo;s in an ABY switch box and run both at the same time with a V30 speaker and EMG pickups.
i truly enjoyed your presentation. .you made sense and i could really see and hear your comparisons.
i really dig your content! and you have a really polite vibe :)
really enjoyed the comparison and review. Great video!
Great video man! I love your channel. Always honest, and you do great analyzation.
I liked the Peavey the most, then the Orange and lastly the Joyo.
Thanks for the honest review.
I am considering buying the Zombie. I own an Orange Micro Terror, am still on a budget and would like a cheap 20 watt amp that can do both clean and overdriven american sounds. You told me everything I needed to know, thank you !!
gimme dat ge200 review boi (also mooer might have a track record of shitty mac support with the ge200 studio but w/e)
on topic, I totally agree with what you're saying about the piranha. supposed to be a 'mini 6505' but to me it doesn't sound like a 6505/5150 or anything like it AT ALL. guess the 6505 branding is only there to sell the bugger
Laney crushed em. Great video!
Would've been very bad if the Laney didn't crush them. I think the Joyo and Orange sounded good, but they are not a 60w all tube metal amp.
Of course, I'm a tad biased as I own a Laney IRT60H.
Ray Torvalds yeah most of the little guys struggle with a SS power section and bitty transformer.
If I couldn't make as much noise as I can where I am now, without people calling the police on me. I would go for the Orange.
Yeah clearly and the Laney even has super old tubes and has definitely seen better days. Will replace the tubes some time and see how big the difference is of old and new tubes
he said orange is still too loud for bedroom though
Absolutely cool comparison
Just got a micro dark and I run it throw a bass cab. Sounds absolutely dope. I can get a good Matt Pike tone that way. The other tone I can get nicely is a Scott Ian tone.
A bass cab really fattens it up and to me works great without needing an overdrive.
I built a custom cab when I used to play metalcore, it is a 2 speaker cab, one 10 and one 12. I had to make a little bit of a tricky circuit to allow the signal to split and distribute properly....god damn, actually I remember that being such a crazy project lmao. But in the end it was absolutely worth it as it gave me singing and wild highs and fucking disgusting bass-laden chugs. It ripped tits. I sold it to a band that I started with who got signed, dude bought it for 2000$ lmao. I put maybe 550$ into it and a weekend of time
The joyo sounds incredible for a budget brand. $230 canadian you can't go wrong. I just ordered one.
Where did you order from, and how long did it take to arrive? I'm curious 'cause I'm in Canada too.
I think I ordered it from Amazon. It's been a while so I'm not 100% sure.@@shakebabyhitler
@@craigharrison5406 Wow, thanks for the quick reply!! Still happy with it, and is it loud enough to jam with drums and bass?
Yes I'm still happy with it. I mainly use it when I'm travelling and can't use my full size stay at home tube amps. it's plenty loud to jam with If you use a decent cabinet like a 2 x12 or even 1 X 12 would do. Stay away from the micro cabs with 8 or 10 inch speakers. I have a mini Randall cab with an 8 inch speaker and it's gutless. It comes with an FX loop so you can throw an EQ pedal into it and get whatever sound you want basically. If I'm not mistaken the new version Joyo Bantamp II comes with a footswitch and 2 independent channels so you can dial in each channel to whatever sound you want and then just footswitch between them. Huge improvement over my original one. You can't get a better high gain tube sound for $250 IMO.@@shakebabyhitler
DUDE ! Four minutes 30 seconds before you start, get into it big boy. Less chat more action 😎
Great playing, there’s something about the orange amps that sit well in the mix better. I’ve heard the white orange micro amp in a mix on another demo and it sat better than the joyo also then.
Great walkthrough.
In the mix i like the orange tone and the laney, too.
Offroader-WardenburgDE british steel ftw
I have the Orange Micro Dark and it Rocks!
I own Micro dark there is cab simulation from the headphone out, as for it not being a metal amp it’s old school you use a pedal of your choice to get the metal tone you want. As for the shaping knob don’t think of it as an eq think amp styling knob so 7-12ish is moving from a Marshall style sound through to a Vox ac-30 sounds so British amps. Going past 12 you’re getting Mesa through to Fender style sounds. This is an Orange 🍊 so not exact replicas but just giving the feel you need.
This amp is an amazing pedal platform so if you need more frequency control get an eq pedal, more gain get a metal zone for all the gain running through the loop, a good reverb and delay and you’ll be on your way to a very versatile/adaptable amp. Also running it through a large cab you could easily gig small venues and get over a drummer with this amp.
The other two amps have their place to me they sound a bit boring.
Orange 🍊 has a legendary back ground and the magic is the dynamics that orange amps have to understand what this means you have to try one then you’ll understand what people are on about because when you play on an amp that’s very dynamic it feels like having massive sounds at your fingertips.
Have fun now 😎
Best option: Zombie and Orange in parallel haha.
Zombie for more metal, orange for rock, or blend the two for a thick stereo sound.
I’m still stuck between the Orange Micro Dark and the Joyo Zombie 2 😫,... I’m not sure which to get.
I heard a raw clip with the first gen Zombie, it sounds huge. Although people say it's modled after the Rectifier it's much much tighter, so if you're going for serious metal tone, the Joyo should be the best bet, I'm considering going for the MkII amp, 2 seperate channels with a footswtich
Both
Really depends on what speakers you have. Ihave the Zombie 2, I have old UK Celestion Hot 100s (didn't care for it). Celestion Seventy 80s (sounds nice, usable tones). Even tried them with my katana speakers (wasn't impressed), Then I got a Neo Creamback 16 ohm and Eminence dv77 16 ohm. They both sound great on their own with the Zombie, I love them together in 8 ohm load.
Dude, you need more subs.
My Joyo Zombie freekin cranks our brutal tones. Slave it from effect loop send into 100 watt loop return... and be ready!! Stick your favorite drive pedal in front and it dominates!! Nice video dude...
I put a tube screamer before mine. And that fixes the weirdness of the mids and gives it that hi end thing your talkin about. Highly recommend doin that! Talkin about the zombie.
check out the newer 2 channel joyo amps, big improvement imo, cheers 🎸
Just got the Zombie and it's a kickass little box to my ears.
Laney>Orange>Joyo>Peavey. I think. The only thing I wouldn't buy is the Peavey. That's funny, cos' 5150 and 6505 (MH) just means amazing tone. But not the Piranha. For me. Good video as always. :)
Great review as always!
PIranha was the clear winner in the full mix, far and away more interesting and powerful sounding.
Clean the shit out of your ears... The Zombie had fish and oranges for dinner! 🧟♂️
Deep down I wanted you to like the peavey. But everybody knows it's terrible x)
I love it.
I bought Peavey 6505 Piranha micro and 6505 1x8” for great price; now for an overdrive pedal!
i am surpised that you choose the orange micro dark i prefer the sound of the Joyo zombie in the demo
i just bought the micro dark at a pawn shop this Wednesday got for $140.00 was on sale original price was $160.00 lol thank you for the video demo i also hit Subcribed
To anyone who owns the Orange... TRY DIFFERENT 12ax7 TUBES. Its absolutely amazing how much they change the sound & gain in this little bugger.
I have listened to some good tube amps and you are correct in saying the Orange is a rock amp, it produces the best sound overall, it also produces better clarity.
And judging by what you were playing I would say it sounded much better than the other two.
However in saying this I would also say the joyo would be better for heavy metal.
You don't get that crisp sound like the orange produced.
Of course It may just be a matter of fiddling with the knobs to get the sound better but I would get the orange over the other two.
But then I do like that old tube sound over the digital sound.
The orange and the joyo are essentially the same. These are all analog. Basically solid state. One tube would not have that much gain in the preamp. Doubtful it has that much of an effect on the tone m
amazing avaliable!! congrats!!
I though the Orange sounded best, until I heard the Laney, sounds epic!
I don't own any of these, but that Peavey was badass
Fun Fact about Orange, the Orange Shape (middle knob) is like a time travel of sounds, if is 9 O'Clock your tone should sound something like from the 70s and 80s, and if is on 12 O'clock then is more of a late 80s and 90s tone, and if you blast it far on the other end, then it suppose to have that modern rock or "metal" tone. think of it this way Doom Metal, or bands like Pentagram set it to 10 or 9 O'clock with Gain in the middle between 2 O'clock and 5pm O'clock with LOL Volume as high as 7 or 8 O'clock If you want that Pantera Walk song sounds, I would say 9am at Volume, 1pm on Shape and gain at 5pm and Mudvayne tone then volume at 8am, shape to max and gain whatever you can find but after noon. Other than that have fun!
Could you compare the joyo zombie and the joyo vivo (5150 micro clone)
Matthew Short I’m deciding which one to get. I play a lot of metalcore, thrash and yeah
Matthew Short yes plz
@@gibsoadstudios648 which one did you get? since i can't afford 6505, my only options are only these two
O K I would go with the orange! The joyo is great too if you want more of a tighter tone. I personally like the orange sound
Great comparison.
It would be more sense to compare Orange with Joyo MeteOR, which actually produces orange'ish kind of sound.
Wow this video sent me down a rabbit hole fast. I haven’t ever given Joyo any thought but it sounds leagues better than the orange and peavey here.
I ended up ordering the Joyo zombie as a practice amp in my living room
Soulhenge, that is a bad ass guitar!
the micro dark has built in cab sim of an orange 4x12 on the headphone out
I think people really underestimate the peavey. Yep, it is way to thick. But you know what? Stick an eq in the back and it beats the shit out of the others. Having too much is always better than having too little, in Audio it’s always easier to take away than to add something that isn’t there.
Strongly agree here. On lower-price amps it's extremely important to throw an EQ pedal somewhere to tame the loose end or any unwanted frequencies. MXR 10-Band EQ does a pretty good job
This definitely has me thinking
That's what im talking about, and if you mix that with one Seymour Duncan powerstage you will have a monster of 170W of power
Zombie has the most gain, and sounds the most like a full-fledged tube amplifier. Peavey has something weird going on with the midrange, and Orange has hard distortion mostly resembling a transistor amp.
Jojo, because it sounds good and cheap
Amazing video. I liked the orange the best between the launchboxes. The joyo seemed to have a wha turned on in front of it. The laney crushed them all, but it could’ve been tweaked even better. The peavey sounded like shit tbh. I wish you’ve added the Joyo Meteor (orange voiced), to compare it against the orange. Cheers from Argentina, my friend
A launchbox. It will eject you when you play too loud :P (sorry, couldn't resist).
I agree, they Peavey sounded pretty bad to me too.
Ray Torvalds space X guitar amps lol
I thought the Orange sounded best in the mix
That's a beautiful guitar
Well done review, im going with Joyo Zombie. Have you tried the MV50 yet?
Thoughts? Try the mc50?
that laney sounds incredible
The Orange has lovely sparkle and would be my fave, though I am 50 so my tastes are more for classic rock 👍
Beautiful guitar
Orange is best by far.
Joyo is the MEAT!!!!
As much as I like the Peavey, I would get the Joyo because it has the most useful features.
I'd have to go with Orange>Joyo>Peavey based on this video. One after the other, I could just hear the clarity and definition improve. I'm probably going to buy the Orange at some point
The zombie would be perfect if only it had a footswitch!
New Gear Day so you have to change channels manually? Wtf
well it's meant to be a high gain head so i don't think it was ever meant to do a lot of cleans, however cleans are currently popular in heavy music currently so it's a bit of a downside
there is a switch on the front you have to manually flip to switch to clean though, it does take pedals very nicely though
It's djents but can y'all volume knob?
I flip channel switches with the headstock of my guitar xD
that's rather impressive haha the switches on those bantamps aren't very big!
I will have to try listening to this through some head phones or some better "system" than just on my phone, because I really couldn't hear much of a difference between the three of them. Thanks for sharing this video. I've been wanting to start a "home studio" for some time now, and with so many options available on the market, trying to make a decision on what to get, for my needs, can be overwhelming at times. Especially when price is an issue.
I own the Orange Micro Dark and I absolutely love it and I really like the shape control but, to each their own.
Also according to the Orange website the headphone jack does have an amp sim.
I enjoyed the video a good comparison, well done!
jettblack303 Headphone Jack has cab simulation, love mine too!
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Very nice review brother!
I think the orange sounded best overall. The only complaint is that it doesn't make the pinch harmonics scream like the zombie.
The Zombie wins, I got one and put a Mesa Boogie NOS 12ax7 in it from reverb and made it even better. The Joyo amp tubes suck but 12ax7 tubes are affordable enough to get a couple and try out a few to see which one you like the most. Put a New Mesa Boogie 12AX7 / ECC83 Preamp Tube in the zombie and it makes it even better.
shoutout the closed hand pick gang
awesome tone, subscribed