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If you have never played a total war game before and you are super excited about the time period you should buy the game! If you have played total war games before, or you are not super excited about this time period in particular, don't buy it. It is an overpriced expansion/reskin of a previous total war game (Troy) and it has sold extremely poorly so will likely not receive long term support, something CA has a recent history of doing.
Before buying the game people should really check out what the totalwar streamers who got early access are saying about the game (spoiler alert, nothing good). There are two types of total war games, full games and saga's. Full games are exactly that, a whole game with DLC. Saga games are smaller in size, fewer in features, and overall aren't given much development post release. Pharoh seems to be a saga game but being sold as a full game.
Definitely, although part of that is that Egypt's medicine was among the best in the world at the time and part of it is definitely the fact that a pharaoh would be filthy rich, never lacking for the best food and comfort possible at the time. Like, it's STILL remarkable, but his massive privilege definitely helped.
Egyptian life expectancy was kinda higher than 19th century Europe tho, as they had primitive antibiotics (moldy bread) and didn't know humorism so didn't bleed people out with dirty instruments to "cure" them... Dry climate also helped.
For anyone wondering about that poem for Ramsesses The Great, here it is: I met a traveller from an antique land Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand, Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown, And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command, Tell that its sculptor well those passions read Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things, The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed: And on the pedestal these words appear: ‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’ Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Shelley describes a crumbling statue of Ozymandias as a way to portray the transience of political power and to praise art's ability to preserve the past.
Well... The Hitites actually wrote about their victory. And the treaty signed betwen Hatussilis III (that comanded the chariot charge at Khades when still a prince) pulls back the gains made by Ramses II father. The problem w Hitite texts was they were only decifred in the 1920s and all the Hatussas archive was in Berlim. East Berlin...
They won according to ... THEIR narrative? They failed to capitalize on a fragmented Egyptian army despite having the larger troop count albeit being closer to their homeland than the latter was! Ramses had a great ego no doubt about it ... , but he had admitted to his mistake at the beginning of the battle and had a huge poem about his doubts and fear throughout.
The Goldilocks rule of heirs: This king has no sons! His kingdom will have a shaky transition in power. This king has too many sons! His heirs will weaken the throne. This king has just enough sons! His kingdom will last for another generation.
One thing to be careful about when the king has enough sons is high-level courtiers and nobles: so many great kings in the making died in "hunting accidents", "swimming accidents" and "strangely contained outbreaks of sudden ilnesses".
@@michaelramon2411 Louis XIV outlived his son and grandson (and one great grandson, but that was because that one died with an age in the single digits), and since his other two grandsons had to renounce their right of succession to become kings of other countries, that period of French History ended up with two concurrent heir apparents, neither of which ever inherited the throne, and one king that technically was never an official heir to the throne.
To elaborate, most previous pharaohs had their hieroglyphs embossed on walls... easy to chisel off and replace. Ramesses had his hieroglyphs engraved into walls, making them much more durable
Points to Nefertari for being one of the best diplomats from the era, doing a huge amount to get Egypt to decisively win peacetimes much more than they won their wars.
The various Ancient Empires collapsed at slightly different times. Egypt's collapse was after - but some of the other empires collapsed during his long reign. Indeed one of Extra History Channel's first series - The Bronze Age Collapse included the peace treaty from Battle of Kadesh in its final episode.
Even though I think I'll keep to playing Age of Bronze for Rome 2 instead of Pharaoh, Im glad CA sponsored this, learning more about the past is always good and I couldn't help but smile when I heard Ramses II got a parade again after thousands of years. Keep up the good work Extra History.
Well Ramesses did the Odin before Odin did it himself, as in he sacrificed to himself in his name, all he needed as a final gift (to himself) was to impale a spear through his chest as he died for a final sacrifice.
It’s awesome to see how you guys are still getting sponsorships by the Total War guys, considering they were the ones who originally got this series going with a video on the first Roman-Carthaginian war for Rome Total War ages ago.
Some kings win the war but lose the peace. This one simply declared his victory and absolutely dominated the following peace. BTW there has been a certain leader who declared victory on an aircraft carrier rather preemtively as well.
Ramesses the Great seems like the kind of person who would NOT be surprised to find out that people still talk about him several thousand years after he died!
@@scarletkingdom2359That’s what everyone thinks, so everyone tells their story making them overrated. The pendulum always swings to extremes. I can’t hear a story from Egypt without hearing about the Nubians. Even when they’re not important to the story.
I think I've heard it argued that Ramses with his many building projects may have been the Pharaoh referenced in the Biblical story of Moses. I can see the great migration stories turning into the search for the Promised Land, and the advent of the Sea Peoples turning into the Pharaoh literally getting crushed by the sea.
It’s a theory that has been popularized by Hollywood’s portrayal of the Exodus in multiple films, but you’d need to adjust the timeline by a good bit to make the biblical account fit Rameses as Rameses was a good bit more recent than the biblical account claims the exodus happened.
@AdamNisbett It's also unlikely that the "exodus" happened at all, and far more likely that the Israelites never went anywhere. The generally accepted theory is that the Israelites were in Israel, and it was conquered, and the "slavery" is less actual slavery and more subjugation to a foreign king. The Exodus wasn't the Israelites leaving Egypt, it was Egypt leaving them at the advent of the bronze age collapse, when Egypt's power declined so that they could no longer control their territories in Israel and the Levant.
@@nickkerber1145 I’d agree that’s a reasonably common view by those who regard biblical stories as mythology rather than historical. It does require making major revisions to the account, not only those that you mention, but also the timeline, as the Bronze Age collapse happened a few hundred years after the events of the exodus are said to have happened according to the biblical account.
@@AdamNisbett Exodus 1:11 actually names the two cities built; Pithom and Raamses. That bit would take a lot less timeline tweaking. I kind of want to see an Extra-Extra-Mythology on how these things come about.
@@haemocyte2224 yes, two cities are named, but it’s much less certain whether those are specifically connected to more modern cities of similar name, if they were different cities that reused similar names, or if the biblical references refer to a more recent city at the same site as the original storehouse city that the Bible refers to them building. Basically that far back there’s a lot of theories and a lot of conjecture but little concrete evidence that doesn’t come with a bit of speculation and assumptions.
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!
I disagree with you about Ramesses II, his successors were not up to the task (or rather, they suffered incredibly hard circumstances, every other civilisation in the Mediterranean sea collapsed during the Bronze Age ending, Egypt did remarkably well by surviving in a weakened state XD), but it's not the fault of Ramesses 😅 And for Aristotle, I straight up don't understand what you're talking about.....
@krankarvolund7771 To this day our Western ideas of science, government, and philosophy are built around what Aristotle said. Every word out of his mouth was wrong.
@@prestonjones1653 So the Earth is flat? He's the one who proved Earth is a globe XD No, not every word out of his mouth was wrong, he had some nasty ideas because he lived in a time where these ideas were the norm, and he made mistakes because he didn't had our advanced technology. Other than that, his methods were usually good, like when he proved that the Earth is round, he did it by observing the sky, boats on the horizon, by interviewing a navigator that went to Iceland and told him of the six months night he saw, etc.... Good evidences. Plato at the same time said that the Earth is round because it's the perfect shape, that's not a scientific reasoning XD We didn't based all of our civilization on Aristotle, we don't have slaves and women are legally equal to men, but we did used parts of his reasoning for our science, among many other scientists throughout history, that's how science works, a lot of people propose ideas and experiments that are reviewed and criticized by other people and accepted if they seem true. And discarded if new discoveries prove that we were wrong.
It was a stalemate . Both factions described the battle as a win to their respective side but at least Ramses recounted his feelings and doubts in his poem.
I know this format is more monitizable, but a series for a character with this much history would have taken 10-14 parts like the japanese, kosrou, and east roman series.
Total War: Pharaoh should release a DLC that covers Ramsey's war with the Hittites. Maybe even make the Battle of Kadesh, along with other famous Egyptian battles like the Battle of Magiddo "historical battles".
It should be noted that ancient people saw religion and politics differently from us "modern" people. For them, the two were not separate categories but rivers that very often intersected if not joined into one river. Thus, the public works and religious acts Ramesses takes were not simply a matter of ego or politics with a religious facade. Rather, they were sincere religious acts that also played into the political structure of ancient Egypt.
I mean britain is technically still a divine right monarchy. The monarch is head of the church too. So its not even a foreign concept in the industrialized world
@@YOSSARIAN313 True, but how big of an impact does the monarch even play in the Church of England in the last century or so? Most of the focus is on the archbishop of Canterbury. And if you went up to the average Anglican or Episcopalian, they're unlikely to describe the impact the current (or past) monarch had on their religious praxis. Also, a divine right monarchy is an absolutist monarchy. Britain is a constitutional monarchy with a heavy emphasis on constitutional.
@@YOSSARIAN313You see, that's just it. The Pharaoh wasn't just a symbol. He was literally a god/embodiment of a god to the Egyptians. Everything he did and said had religious purpose and significance which is so foreign to our modern way of thinking.
In ancient Greek sources, he is called Ozymandias, derived from the first part of his Egyptian-language regnal name: Usermaatre Setepenre. Ramesses was also referred to as the "Great Ancestor" by successor pharaohs and the Egyptian people.
Funny enough I've watched a Nancy drew game that involes the famous missing Queens, one of them being Ramesses II wife Nefertari as the main one for the story. Hearing of the mans accomplishments during their reign.
So, to clarify my understanding. Didn't egyptian pharaohs wear the head pieces of gods during ceremonies and religious events? So if Ramsey was depicting himself as a God couldn't that be construed to say he was trying to take more power from the temple priests. So he wouldn't have to play the part of a random God but could play the part of himself. A part no temple priest could tell him how to play? While not making up some new God, like some other less success pharaohs may have done?
I didn't found anything about that. If anything, it's the priests that were acting in place of Pharaoh who, as the official représentant of Egypt in the God's world, was supposed to be the only one who could accomplish the rituals. Given that we're talking about daily rituals performed in thousands of temples across Egypt, he didn't and delegated his authority XD But if there was no Pharaoh it would be a catastrophe, the world will stop, and the Sun would stop to rise! Even if the Priests took more and more importance especially during the New Empire, Pharaoh was generally more powerful. Maybe you think about the two crowns of Egypt that were blessed by two Godeses, Nekhbet and Ouadjet, and were associated to Horus and Set.
Ramses would have made many political marriages to all kinds of nobles both in his own kingdom and beyond. As stated in the video, he also had a main wife, a kind of a queen, who had actual political power. The official position of Great Royal Wife was also a highly ceremonial position, that was at times fulfilled by some of Ramses's daughters, who presumably were only wives in this very specific ceremonial role. I suspect many of his wives Ramses only met a few times during the marriage, though his high number of kids suggests he certainly didn't ignore them.
Hey, I was jut wondering how real i the book "The Egyptian" by Mika Waltari? It seems to depict pretty much what you mention but in a book that reads like the lord of the ring? This is sick I want more now.
@@mayasej It starts during the previous dynasty, with the death of Amenhotep III, the reign of Akhenaten then of Tutankhamen, then of Horemheb, who was the final pharaoh of the 18th dynasty, and then Ramesses I (Ramesses II's grandpa) comes along and starts the 19th dynasty.
It’s really great book and classic here in Finland, it’s impressive how much research he managed to do accurately. Hollywood made a film version in the 50s but I have not seen or know if it’s good.
There's no real concrete evidence, archeological or otherwise, in support of the account in Exodus of the Hebrews being enslaved en masse in Egypt, Ramesses II being long portrayed as the pharaoh of the Exodus is due to the _Book of Exodus_ speaking of how the *city of Ramesses* was one of the constructs the Hebrews were tasked to build.
No evidence either archaeologically *or* biblically that this, *had* it happened as described, would have coincided with Rameses the Great's reign. That specific connection is purely a product of historical-fiction writers.
Extra History likely left it out because it would've infuriated the atheist Leftists and they'd try to boycott the channel. You have no idea how angry they get when biblical events do coincide with historical evidence. It's likely it really wounded Rameses' ego, thus he excluded it out of his "great works". Which is evident from his loss against the Hittites which he then claims was a total victory. And it's fairly evident, given the recent events I will NOT speak of, there's a large swath of anti-Semitism going on at the moment. And Extra History said before in other videos they don't want to pick sides to inflame tensions online and send hopes/prayers to innocents on both sides who suffered greatly. However, some Leftists did get pretty mad with them in the past. Especially for including Bible stories in some videos, DESPITE it being an Extra Mythology episode to placate them. And they certainly weren't happy they made a Joan of Arc series.
@@chedelirio6984 Or Rameses embellished the details because he refused to accept a higher God dethroned the "god-king" in a rather spectacular way and just chose not to write it on his walls.
Having too many sons was a common thing for monarchies outside of post Roman Europe. European strict succession law and monogamy culture prevented this, though still risky because succession crisis became much more often.
Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in Ancient Egyptian warfare I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series. The same on the Traditional sacral royalty religion
at a time where most people were considered elderly in their late 40's and 50's how TF did he manage to live way into his 90'S???? thats honestly so based, bro just wouldnt quit
The idea that people in their 40s/50s would've been "elderly" is a myth, mostly from misunderstandings of "average life-expectancy." Infant & childhood mortality, before Western medicine, was *shockingly* high. But, if you lived past your teens, making it to your 60s or 70s would not have been terribly rare. Basically stats saying "average life expectancy was 30/etc" are almost meaningless, due to how many likely died tragically young.
Ramses lived as close to a modern western lifestyle as would have been possible at the time. He enjoyed a sufficient and varied diet, didn't do backbreaking labor in the fields and would have been treated by the best medicine available. Ofc he got lucky, as testified by his many sons who didn't live nearly as long despite presumably having similar lifestyles.
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If you have never played a total war game before and you are super excited about the time period you should buy the game! If you have played total war games before, or you are not super excited about this time period in particular, don't buy it. It is an overpriced expansion/reskin of a previous total war game (Troy) and it has sold extremely poorly so will likely not receive long term support, something CA has a recent history of doing.
Why can't I find this video on Nebula?
Before buying the game people should really check out what the totalwar streamers who got early access are saying about the game (spoiler alert, nothing good).
There are two types of total war games, full games and saga's. Full games are exactly that, a whole game with DLC. Saga games are smaller in size, fewer in features, and overall aren't given much development post release. Pharoh seems to be a saga game but being sold as a full game.
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The fact that this man lived into his early 90s without modern medicine is just astonishing
Actually it’s happened many times Askia the great for example lived to almost be 100 he lived so long he went blind
The Pharaoh of the bible was a certified tyrant and tyrants usually live longer
Definitely, although part of that is that Egypt's medicine was among the best in the world at the time and part of it is definitely the fact that a pharaoh would be filthy rich, never lacking for the best food and comfort possible at the time.
Like, it's STILL remarkable, but his massive privilege definitely helped.
Egyptian life expectancy was kinda higher than 19th century Europe tho, as they had primitive antibiotics (moldy bread) and didn't know humorism so didn't bleed people out with dirty instruments to "cure" them... Dry climate also helped.
Egyptians believe that death is a new life
The outliving all of your hundreds of sons thing is a very crusader kings moment
For anyone wondering about that poem for Ramsesses The Great, here it is:
I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert . . . Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
‘My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!’
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.”
Shelley describes a crumbling statue of Ozymandias as a way to portray the transience of political power and to praise art's ability to preserve the past.
@@barbiquearea one of my favorite poems for all time
Definitely one of the best! The inescapable nature of entropy & the folly of man's efforts in its wake...
You should hear Bryan Cranston's recitation of that poem. He did that in honor of Breaking Bad's climax of the same name. Chills.
@@kagekun1198 I have and it gives me chills
Hittites: "We beat the Egyptians at the battle of Kadesh!"
Ramses: "Unfortunately for you, history will not see it that way."
Hittites :We won against the Egyptians!
Ramesses II: Nuh hu, the Gods said that I won, on the walls that I carved. So, I won.
Hittites didn't win it was a draw
Ramses: "Query: if history is written by the victors, and I am writing the history: how could you have won?"
Well... The Hitites actually wrote about their victory. And the treaty signed betwen Hatussilis III (that comanded the chariot charge at Khades when still a prince) pulls back the gains made by Ramses II father.
The problem w Hitite texts was they were only decifred in the 1920s and all the Hatussas archive was in Berlim. East Berlin...
They won according to ... THEIR narrative? They failed to capitalize on a fragmented Egyptian army despite having the larger troop count albeit being closer to their homeland than the latter was! Ramses had a great ego no doubt about it ... , but he had admitted to his mistake at the beginning of the battle and had a huge poem about his doubts and fear throughout.
The Goldilocks rule of heirs:
This king has no sons! His kingdom will have a shaky transition in power.
This king has too many sons! His heirs will weaken the throne.
This king has just enough sons! His kingdom will last for another generation.
Heir, Spare with an extra one just in case things get really bad.
@@anthonyrinaldi1331 And even then, the heir and the spare had better get along.
One thing to be careful about when the king has enough sons is high-level courtiers and nobles: so many great kings in the making died in "hunting accidents", "swimming accidents" and "strangely contained outbreaks of sudden ilnesses".
And then there's the Ramses corollary - if you have too many sons, live for so long that most of them die before you do.
@@michaelramon2411 Louis XIV outlived his son and grandson (and one great grandson, but that was because that one died with an age in the single digits), and since his other two grandsons had to renounce their right of succession to become kings of other countries, that period of French History ended up with two concurrent heir apparents, neither of which ever inherited the throne, and one king that technically was never an official heir to the throne.
To elaborate, most previous pharaohs had their hieroglyphs embossed on walls... easy to chisel off and replace. Ramesses had his hieroglyphs engraved into walls, making them much more durable
other kings: I want to live longer.
Ramesses: Living long has caused to many problems.
Ramesses: will someone please invent smoking?
As a God-King myself this video was really insightful
all hail you, great god amonst the living!
Blasphemy!
@@SakibHasan-ks2fe Against the holy law of humour, more precisely the Poe's Law commendment telling to "chill" in those situations
@@Game_Hero No
@@SakibHasan-ks2fe
bro don’t insult the god king
Points to Nefertari for being one of the best diplomats from the era, doing a huge amount to get Egypt to decisively win peacetimes much more than they won their wars.
I remember seeing the procession between museums!! Incredible that his legacy has stood this grand test of time.
Ramses II [making finger guns at own statue]: "Lookin' divine, Ramses!"
Ramses statue [making finger guns in turn]: "Back atcha, Ramses!"
Even though have real love for the history of Egypt, it just astounds and befuddles me that Rameses the Great was *BEFORE* the bronze age collapse.
The various Ancient Empires collapsed at slightly different times. Egypt's collapse was after - but some of the other empires collapsed during his long reign. Indeed one of Extra History Channel's first series - The Bronze Age Collapse included the peace treaty from Battle of Kadesh in its final episode.
@@jonnunn4196 yes I have seen EH's bronze age collapse project. The scale of egyptian history is mind-boggling.
"if you think you can do better...."
God, i don't think i can. Even just outliving Ramses is a tough ask.
Even though I think I'll keep to playing Age of Bronze for Rome 2 instead of Pharaoh, Im glad CA sponsored this, learning more about the past is always good and I couldn't help but smile when I heard Ramses II got a parade again after thousands of years. Keep up the good work Extra History.
AMAZING video as always! You guys truly did the greatest pharaoh justice!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
As an Egyptian I am fond that you are spreading this knowledge that teaches how many civilisations contributed to our modern world
Well Ramesses did the Odin before Odin did it himself, as in he sacrificed to himself in his name, all he needed as a final gift (to himself) was to impale a spear through his chest as he died for a final sacrifice.
fun fact Ramesses the second actually has a passport where is written as pharaoh of Egypt it was needed for him to travel to France for studying
It’s awesome to see how you guys are still getting sponsorships by the Total War guys, considering they were the ones who originally got this series going with a video on the first Roman-Carthaginian war for Rome Total War ages ago.
Some kings win the war but lose the peace. This one simply declared his victory and absolutely dominated the following peace.
BTW there has been a certain leader who declared victory on an aircraft carrier rather preemtively as well.
Ramesses the Great seems like the kind of person who would NOT be surprised to find out that people still talk about him several thousand years after he died!
In fact, he would possibly be annoyed that his kingdom didn't keep spreading and the rulers of that region don't name their heirs after him anymore.
@@falcoskywolfwe built Ramsses temple just now in india
As an Egyptian, thank you for telling our history.
I'm also I'm Egyptian
Honestly who hasn’t
But I’m so happy he mentioned the Nubians they’re so underrated
As an American, thank you for having such a cool history.
@@scarletkingdom2359That’s what everyone thinks, so everyone tells their story making them overrated.
The pendulum always swings to extremes. I can’t hear a story from Egypt without hearing about the Nubians. Even when they’re not important to the story.
Request for Spanish Inquisition and Taiping rebellion
Thats one hell of a crossover
I think I've heard it argued that Ramses with his many building projects may have been the Pharaoh referenced in the Biblical story of Moses. I can see the great migration stories turning into the search for the Promised Land, and the advent of the Sea Peoples turning into the Pharaoh literally getting crushed by the sea.
It’s a theory that has been popularized by Hollywood’s portrayal of the Exodus in multiple films, but you’d need to adjust the timeline by a good bit to make the biblical account fit Rameses as Rameses was a good bit more recent than the biblical account claims the exodus happened.
@AdamNisbett It's also unlikely that the "exodus" happened at all, and far more likely that the Israelites never went anywhere. The generally accepted theory is that the Israelites were in Israel, and it was conquered, and the "slavery" is less actual slavery and more subjugation to a foreign king. The Exodus wasn't the Israelites leaving Egypt, it was Egypt leaving them at the advent of the bronze age collapse, when Egypt's power declined so that they could no longer control their territories in Israel and the Levant.
@@nickkerber1145 I’d agree that’s a reasonably common view by those who regard biblical stories as mythology rather than historical. It does require making major revisions to the account, not only those that you mention, but also the timeline, as the Bronze Age collapse happened a few hundred years after the events of the exodus are said to have happened according to the biblical account.
@@AdamNisbett Exodus 1:11 actually names the two cities built; Pithom and Raamses. That bit would take a lot less timeline tweaking. I kind of want to see an Extra-Extra-Mythology on how these things come about.
@@haemocyte2224 yes, two cities are named, but it’s much less certain whether those are specifically connected to more modern cities of similar name, if they were different cities that reused similar names, or if the biblical references refer to a more recent city at the same site as the original storehouse city that the Bible refers to them building. Basically that far back there’s a lot of theories and a lot of conjecture but little concrete evidence that doesn’t come with a bit of speculation and assumptions.
Gotta say, "look upon my works, ye mighty..." *could* be the catchphrase for this reign.
As an Egyptian whose last name is "Ramesses", thanks for telling the story of our ancestors.
Jada Pinkett Smith would be enraged.
Tahia Masr !
Are you sure your actually a decendant of the real Egyptians and not just the decendant of Arab colonisers
@@YatsarEL-17 look for another history to satisfy the inferiority complex
@@YatsarEL-17 both better than being descended from slaves
It is ironic that the problem this pharoph has is... he lived for TOO long. Usually it's the opposite
Also polygamy made it so there was much less of a physical limit to amount of children
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@@kingnaga619 the man in gauze the man in gauze KING RAMSES!!
This wins, now unfortunately that's going to be in my head all day
I am now going to refer to my CK3 runs where my ruler lives forever and has like 1000 kids "Pulling a Ramses"
Please do the Greek war of independence of 1821 against the ottoman empire next
I've been asking for this since the first episodes of the sengoku Jidai!
Imagine making a temple about yourself in Nubia bragging about your victory in Nubia
It’s kinda funny that extra history started with a total war sponsorship and now this is the most recent series
It kind of blows my mind that there were ancient egyptologist in what we would consider ancient Egypt.
I was told once that cleopatra is closer to the iPhone age then she was the pyramid age
@@KingAries85yup
Wow... now I know where Games Workshop got the idea for Settra the Imperishable's (and etc.) colossal ego from. 😂
they even copy most of ramses's title in settra's titles
You guys are as great and legendary as ramesses!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Queen Elizabeth before Queen Elizabeth (in terms of age). Makes you wonder about all the Egyptian artifacts the British have in their museums.
Ramesses was also a rare example of someone who was so great he actually destroyed the growth of his people. Another notable example was Aristotle.
I disagree with you about Ramesses II, his successors were not up to the task (or rather, they suffered incredibly hard circumstances, every other civilisation in the Mediterranean sea collapsed during the Bronze Age ending, Egypt did remarkably well by surviving in a weakened state XD), but it's not the fault of Ramesses 😅
And for Aristotle, I straight up don't understand what you're talking about.....
@krankarvolund7771
To this day our Western ideas of science, government, and philosophy are built around what Aristotle said.
Every word out of his mouth was wrong.
@@prestonjones1653 So the Earth is flat? He's the one who proved Earth is a globe XD
No, not every word out of his mouth was wrong, he had some nasty ideas because he lived in a time where these ideas were the norm, and he made mistakes because he didn't had our advanced technology. Other than that, his methods were usually good, like when he proved that the Earth is round, he did it by observing the sky, boats on the horizon, by interviewing a navigator that went to Iceland and told him of the six months night he saw, etc.... Good evidences. Plato at the same time said that the Earth is round because it's the perfect shape, that's not a scientific reasoning XD
We didn't based all of our civilization on Aristotle, we don't have slaves and women are legally equal to men, but we did used parts of his reasoning for our science, among many other scientists throughout history, that's how science works, a lot of people propose ideas and experiments that are reviewed and criticized by other people and accepted if they seem true. And discarded if new discoveries prove that we were wrong.
How to have a lasting legacy.
Turn your loss into a victory and sign your name in every monument you and others built. 👍
Common Sense : history is written by the winners
Ramses: I didn't agree to that hold my beer
It was a stalemate . Both factions described the battle as a win to their respective side but at least Ramses recounted his feelings and doubts in his poem.
Wow 90 would is pretty impressive especially for his time
I know this format is more monitizable, but a series for a character with this much history would have taken 10-14 parts like the japanese, kosrou, and east roman series.
Thank you so much for your videos about our rich history
There is so much gray aera.
Total War: Pharaoh should release a DLC that covers Ramsey's war with the Hittites. Maybe even make the Battle of Kadesh, along with other famous Egyptian battles like the Battle of Magiddo "historical battles".
Would that make Ramesses the 8th longest reigning monarch in history?
The Abu Simbel temple is a perfect encapsulation of Rameses's ENORMOUS EGO!
It should be noted that ancient people saw religion and politics differently from us "modern" people. For them, the two were not separate categories but rivers that very often intersected if not joined into one river. Thus, the public works and religious acts Ramesses takes were not simply a matter of ego or politics with a religious facade. Rather, they were sincere religious acts that also played into the political structure of ancient Egypt.
I mean britain is technically still a divine right monarchy. The monarch is head of the church too. So its not even a foreign concept in the industrialized world
@@YOSSARIAN313 True, but how big of an impact does the monarch even play in the Church of England in the last century or so? Most of the focus is on the archbishop of Canterbury. And if you went up to the average Anglican or Episcopalian, they're unlikely to describe the impact the current (or past) monarch had on their religious praxis.
Also, a divine right monarchy is an absolutist monarchy. Britain is a constitutional monarchy with a heavy emphasis on constitutional.
@@patricklee8088 i mean it was probably similar with the egyptian priests handling most of the day to day affairs while the monarch was the symbol
@@YOSSARIAN313You see, that's just it. The Pharaoh wasn't just a symbol. He was literally a god/embodiment of a god to the Egyptians. Everything he did and said had religious purpose and significance which is so foreign to our modern way of thinking.
Thank you for the video.
So happy
So for the time he wasn’t a bad ruler…huh that’s a rarity.
PANR has tuned in.
I love these
it's not what you do in life its how you're remembered in death
Ramses Harden, his own heart
In ancient Greek sources, he is called Ozymandias, derived from the first part of his Egyptian-language regnal name: Usermaatre Setepenre. Ramesses was also referred to as the "Great Ancestor" by successor pharaohs and the Egyptian people.
Egypt is so ancient, Ramses the Great's son was an egyptologist. Jesus.
Great video.
8:26 of course the British have that
Let's go new episode!!!!!!
3:32 3:43 SO many ramesses😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
Why aren't these episodes on Nebula? I almost missed them
Total War: Pharaoh can also be found on Steam.
Funny enough I've watched a Nancy drew game that involes the famous missing Queens, one of them being Ramesses II wife Nefertari as the main one for the story. Hearing of the mans accomplishments during their reign.
The man in gauze
The man in gauze the man in gauze KING RAMSES!!!
Will you ever make a extra mythology channel
To be honest I like this style for the gods better than the mythology series. and also the Anthony Clark Nedroid pane (2:12)l!!!
Louis the XIV’ing his way through his heirs.
I think my favorites are actually his characters from Babylon 5 and Stra Trek Voyager. Tragic yet satysfying.
Saw that parade when they did it. I honestly really want a model of the cars they used
a shame we don't talk about this pharaoh more
Deadly
There are two simultaneous series now?
So, to clarify my understanding. Didn't egyptian pharaohs wear the head pieces of gods during ceremonies and religious events? So if Ramsey was depicting himself as a God couldn't that be construed to say he was trying to take more power from the temple priests. So he wouldn't have to play the part of a random God but could play the part of himself. A part no temple priest could tell him how to play?
While not making up some new God, like some other less success pharaohs may have done?
I didn't found anything about that. If anything, it's the priests that were acting in place of Pharaoh who, as the official représentant of Egypt in the God's world, was supposed to be the only one who could accomplish the rituals.
Given that we're talking about daily rituals performed in thousands of temples across Egypt, he didn't and delegated his authority XD
But if there was no Pharaoh it would be a catastrophe, the world will stop, and the Sun would stop to rise! Even if the Priests took more and more importance especially during the New Empire, Pharaoh was generally more powerful.
Maybe you think about the two crowns of Egypt that were blessed by two Godeses, Nekhbet and Ouadjet, and were associated to Horus and Set.
Egyptian Pharaohs 🤝🏽 Egyptian presidents
Moving the capital so they'll be more secure
We change a capital every 500 years or so. Cairo has been the capital for the last 1050 years. Time for change
except the presidents have tanks and highway-wide roads to crush dissent of people wanting their revolution back.
Ya' know, Ramses is cool and all, but... 200 wives?... This is something hard to comprehend...
china begs to differ
@@raphaelalexandreyensen6291 oh no
Ramses would have made many political marriages to all kinds of nobles both in his own kingdom and beyond. As stated in the video, he also had a main wife, a kind of a queen, who had actual political power. The official position of Great Royal Wife was also a highly ceremonial position, that was at times fulfilled by some of Ramses's daughters, who presumably were only wives in this very specific ceremonial role. I suspect many of his wives Ramses only met a few times during the marriage, though his high number of kids suggests he certainly didn't ignore them.
Glory to Usaarmatre
So, that's the end of the story?
8:27 What ancient Egyptian temple did they steal it from?
Hey, I was jut wondering how real i the book "The Egyptian" by Mika Waltari?
It seems to depict pretty much what you mention but in a book that reads like the lord of the ring?
This is sick I want more now.
ok so apparently the book is spot on historically accurate and this is amazing. guys go read it.
@@mayasej It starts during the previous dynasty, with the death of Amenhotep III, the reign of Akhenaten then of Tutankhamen, then of Horemheb, who was the final pharaoh of the 18th dynasty, and then Ramesses I (Ramesses II's grandpa) comes along and starts the 19th dynasty.
it's AMAZING@@samrevlej9331
It’s really great book and classic here in Finland, it’s impressive how much research he managed to do accurately. Hollywood made a film version in the 50s but I have not seen or know if it’s good.
So, I have one question. What about Moses and the plagues Egypt went through?
Jewish myths
Never happened , Egyptian empire ruled the tribes of judea for hundreds of years
There's no real concrete evidence, archeological or otherwise, in support of the account in Exodus of the Hebrews being enslaved en masse in Egypt, Ramesses II being long portrayed as the pharaoh of the Exodus is due to the _Book of Exodus_ speaking of how the *city of Ramesses* was one of the constructs the Hebrews were tasked to build.
No evidence either archaeologically *or* biblically that this, *had* it happened as described, would have coincided with Rameses the Great's reign. That specific connection is purely a product of historical-fiction writers.
Extra History likely left it out because it would've infuriated the atheist Leftists and they'd try to boycott the channel.
You have no idea how angry they get when biblical events do coincide with historical evidence. It's likely it really wounded Rameses' ego, thus he excluded it out of his "great works". Which is evident from his loss against the Hittites which he then claims was a total victory.
And it's fairly evident, given the recent events I will NOT speak of, there's a large swath of anti-Semitism going on at the moment. And Extra History said before in other videos they don't want to pick sides to inflame tensions online and send hopes/prayers to innocents on both sides who suffered greatly.
However, some Leftists did get pretty mad with them in the past. Especially for including Bible stories in some videos, DESPITE it being an Extra Mythology episode to placate them. And they certainly weren't happy they made a Joan of Arc series.
@@chedelirio6984 Or Rameses embellished the details because he refused to accept a higher God dethroned the "god-king" in a rather spectacular way and just chose not to write it on his walls.
Nice
RETURN THE SLAB!
OR SUFFER MY CURSE!
What's yer offer?
Having too many sons was a common thing for monarchies outside of post Roman Europe. European strict succession law and monogamy culture prevented this, though still risky because succession crisis became much more often.
Illegitimate children: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Return The slab
People go listen to Bob Briers Lectures on Ancient Egypt. It's amazing!
"Return the slab."
Ramsey is just settra the imperishable
Which Pharao was the one who the Hebrews fled from?
You can't really say because the Exodus isn't a real historical event.
Suffering from success
Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in Ancient Egyptian warfare I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series. The same on the Traditional sacral royalty religion
Is it on RUclips?
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So basically Rameses II was doing the "Obama gives medal to Obama" meme thousands of years before us.
Cool
Ramses the Not So Bad
at a time where most people were considered elderly in their late 40's and 50's how TF did he manage to live way into his 90'S???? thats honestly so based, bro just wouldnt quit
Healthy lifestyle. Good genes
Maybe there’s something to this whole “make myself a god” thing…
The idea that people in their 40s/50s would've been "elderly" is a myth, mostly from misunderstandings of "average life-expectancy."
Infant & childhood mortality, before Western medicine, was *shockingly* high. But, if you lived past your teens, making it to your 60s or 70s would not have been terribly rare. Basically stats saying "average life expectancy was 30/etc" are almost meaningless, due to how many likely died tragically young.
Bcuz Ramesses was a royal, positioned as the _head of an entire country?_ He'd have access to the best quality physicians and doctors and such.
Ramses lived as close to a modern western lifestyle as would have been possible at the time. He enjoyed a sufficient and varied diet, didn't do backbreaking labor in the fields and would have been treated by the best medicine available. Ofc he got lucky, as testified by his many sons who didn't live nearly as long despite presumably having similar lifestyles.
Guess the writing was on the (temple) wall.
This man is the definition of "A small bit of an ego"
Another monarch with TOO MANY heirs: Edward III
So he had the same heir problems I do in ck3