Game Scoop! 698: Spoiler-Free God of War Ragnarok Opinions

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Welcome back to IGN Game Scoop!, the ONLY video game podcast! This week your Omega Cops -- Daemon Hatfield, Sam Claiborn, Justin Davis, and Jada Griffin -- are discussing God of War Ragnarok, PSVR2, early '80s games, and more. And, of course, they play Video Game 20 Questions.
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Комментарии • 187

  • @jadimich
    @jadimich Год назад +21

    Sam clearly states that the game wasn’t really made for him. For HIM. And then proceeds to say what he likes in games (open worlds, free exploration, etc.). Totally understandable, and I’m with him there. If it’s not for him, then it’s not for him.

    • @Woodlouse81
      @Woodlouse81 Год назад +3

      100%

    • @sakuragi1062
      @sakuragi1062 Год назад +4

      If its not for him them why is he even in the conversation then?If you dont like the genre or the game then whats the point of him inputting his opinion?

    • @Woodlouse81
      @Woodlouse81 Год назад +8

      @@sakuragi1062 To offer insightful and interesting comments, which he did.

    • @ChemyNoSurfea
      @ChemyNoSurfea Год назад +8

      @@sakuragi1062 if you surround yourself with people of the same opinion then you'd never get criticism that would help you improve!

  • @hcsanitymw
    @hcsanitymw Год назад +27

    Playing on hard mode is always the way to go if u want more out of any game since the PS2 era

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +1

      100% agree with you there, sometimes it can be frustrating but the rush you get from overcoming something that challenging is a sweet hit of dopamine.

    • @shavedraven
      @shavedraven Год назад +2

      In most cases, that just means moving a sponge slider up and down the spectrum, which is artificial difficulty. Very few games actually have differences in enemy AI behavior or varying scales of skill based difficulty of any kind.

  • @daniel_najar
    @daniel_najar Год назад +5

    Sam is like Daemon when Elden Ring came out lol

  • @Thewizzard15
    @Thewizzard15 Год назад +75

    Who hurt my boy Sam? 😢 Who doesn’t like a father and son learning to see eye to eye!?😂

    • @deedeepilgrim6658
      @deedeepilgrim6658 Год назад +34

      It's because is not zelda

    • @Monolith64
      @Monolith64 Год назад +6

      @@Wolvie10 he doesn’t even like Elden Ring lol

    • @Wolvie10
      @Wolvie10 Год назад

      @Monolith 64 my mistake it's just he pretty much describes the elden ring combat system.

    • @SofaKingOverThisIsh
      @SofaKingOverThisIsh Год назад +19

      Hahaha Sam is a bitter 90 year old man at heart

    • @illogik
      @illogik Год назад +3

      @@SofaKingOverThisIsh But it sounds like he loved the first game and thus brings up valid arguments

  • @danielw3508
    @danielw3508 Год назад +6

    31:10 Pistol Whip is a 10/10 game and well known to the majority that play VR!! Yet you're calling it shovelware 🤣🤣

    • @thechicagobox
      @thechicagobox Год назад

      VR will always be a niche experience.
      Too many people are not able to use it due to motion sickness, price point and the fact that it’s not as leisurely as standard gaming. They also need to rethink the games they’re making for it.

  • @scruz6293
    @scruz6293 Год назад +51

    “Yeah it’s incredible. So what.”
    -Sam Claiborn.

    • @3mileisland516
      @3mileisland516 Год назад +9

      Did he really say that?! Damn, what a hater!

    • @julionogales5939
      @julionogales5939 Год назад +7

      That guy is lame

    • @mattlintott3870
      @mattlintott3870 Год назад +11

      @@julionogales5939 for having a opinion that differs to you?

    • @R17759
      @R17759 Год назад +4

      @@mattlintott3870 People can’t handle differing opinions about entertainment these days.

    • @gwvaio
      @gwvaio Год назад

      lol

  • @jsanchez60
    @jsanchez60 Год назад +14

    Sam with a litany of hot takes this week! Also, Mischief Makers is totally rad...

  • @Stillhovering
    @Stillhovering Год назад +37

    My question for Sam would be what would he expect from the sequel knowing it’s already about a father and a son

    • @TheSaltyRice
      @TheSaltyRice Год назад +24

      Freya casting a spell in the beginning to turn the game into a Pinball game.

    • @ChemyNoSurfea
      @ChemyNoSurfea Год назад +1

      @@TheSaltyRice u deserve more likes tbh

    • @fotografick
      @fotografick Год назад +1

      less expectation, more execution. It will be interesting what they do for the next game. Egypt?

  • @catmandeke1177
    @catmandeke1177 Год назад +8

    The fact that PSVR2 isn't backward compatible with PSVR1 is a major deal breaker

    • @stuartbagley2586
      @stuartbagley2586 Год назад

      Seems very odd that it’s not given PS4 games are backwards compatible on PS5. Should have enough juice to emulate if nothing else.

  • @TheFearian
    @TheFearian Год назад +3

    PSVR2 cost about the same as PSVR(with camera and controllers) and has alot newer and better tech(PSVR was outdated on arrival). PSVR2 will also have alot more games from the start with games like RE8 and Horizon. PSVR2 will also stay fresh alot longer than PSVR. IGNs take on this is bad, PSVR2 is alot better than PSVR and Quest. And Yes you can play Alyx on Quest, but you need a 1000$ computer and PSVR2 has much better tech than Quest( i.e better screen, tracking and overall picture quality).

  • @judah_macabe
    @judah_macabe Год назад +2

    Mark Turmell is the main person behind NBA Jam...as well as an unlockable character.

  • @jamiedeering3400
    @jamiedeering3400 Год назад +32

    Honestly not surprised Sam doesn't like it or last of us or uncharted. Definitely seems like he doesn't like modern games

    • @seananih7609
      @seananih7609 Год назад +3

      Agreed. Some people just can’t be satisfied.

    • @mattlintott3870
      @mattlintott3870 Год назад +7

      @@seananih7609 not true he raved about tunic

    • @seananih7609
      @seananih7609 Год назад

      @@mattlintott3870 Touché

    • @apimb1396
      @apimb1396 Год назад +1

      And that's ok....I don't like em either

    • @ChemyNoSurfea
      @ChemyNoSurfea Год назад +1

      If by modern games you mean movies... (I'm exaggerating) he likes games that are videogamey not the cinematic ones... No problem with that ...

  • @thechicagobox
    @thechicagobox Год назад +4

    GoW Ragnarok is a great sequel to one of the best PS games ever. Nothing is really blowing people away these days, in my opinion it’s due to the cross generation requirements. Sam is also an old curmudgeon 😂

  • @strictlyskeeby
    @strictlyskeeby Год назад +1

    Love that Daemon has a Men Without Hats on vinyl!

  • @TheCmurley131
    @TheCmurley131 Год назад +6

    Help me Marina!!! Shake shake

    • @edmundowatts
      @edmundowatts Год назад

      We need Mischief Makers remade or remastered.

  • @justinhumphrey4177
    @justinhumphrey4177 Год назад +6

    “Father son stories aren’t that interesting” this guy hates his dad lol

  • @apimb1396
    @apimb1396 Год назад +16

    Thanks Sam ! For peeling the onion ....keep it up ! Great show as always

  • @mokhot
    @mokhot Год назад +4

    Thanks sam at last honest opinions and not afraid to say what he thinks. I’ve not played the game and it does look exactly how you explained

  • @TheBlackAdder1964
    @TheBlackAdder1964 Год назад +24

    "People say Marvel movies are formulaic but they don't feel that way"
    ...Most of them are though you can predict the bloody story beats from the trailers, they're also going to have infuriatingly poorly written quippy dialogue every 10 seconds and a key jangling post credit scene how is that not formulaic? lol

    • @Joshua3.33
      @Joshua3.33 Год назад +5

      Yes sam lost me with that one

    • @adiemthevamp
      @adiemthevamp Год назад +11

      He doesn't like narrative based games, it very clear. It is what it is. His justification was bad though.

    • @TheBlackAdder1964
      @TheBlackAdder1964 Год назад +13

      @@adiemthevamp He literally complained about using XP to unlock attacks because "this isn't a fighting game"...like how is anyone supposed to take a smooth brain take like that seriously lol

    • @IonSquared
      @IonSquared Год назад +6

      Yeah what a weird take. Sam lost me with that one too.

    • @Monolith64
      @Monolith64 Год назад +3

      He literally said they are formulaic but they just don’t feel that way

  • @SirJabb0k
    @SirJabb0k Год назад +6

    Great episode

  • @darmy713
    @darmy713 Год назад +16

    So what if they are the same game as TLOU and Uncharted?! They are my literal favorite game and clearly the best story games ever made.

  • @ramosdiaz3575
    @ramosdiaz3575 Год назад +3

    Maybe ps5 vr development costs are so low they can do profit even with low user base

  • @karlalexandregarcia7062
    @karlalexandregarcia7062 Год назад +6

    Appreciate Sam’s take here! Obviously, we can’t say much yet since we haven’t played it, but his take sounded like a critical way of seeing the game beyond than just being carried away by the emotional narrative weight and AAA gameplay

  • @kenneld
    @kenneld Год назад +12

    It's nice to hear that there are AAA studio's like Sony SM that still take great pride in the craftsmanship of game development re: no bugs, beautiful art, rock-solid frame rate, etc. Also appreciate Sam's criticisms.

  • @a00578480
    @a00578480 Год назад +1

    Sam, interesting hot take on GoW and the PSVR. If the PSVR2 is PC compatible, then it's an interesting proposition. If there's no Half Life Alex, there's no reason to own one.

  • @Live2Dye
    @Live2Dye Год назад +6

    The original cost of PSVR for inflation is about the price of PSVR2. The cost will drop by next Black Friday.

    • @solid_justice5855
      @solid_justice5855 Год назад +2

      The psvr 1 + camera + move controllers was allready almost the same price

    • @greegrok
      @greegrok Год назад +1

      Yeah that tracks as the og psvr cost 400 in 2016 with no controllers ( and 6 wires and separate box to connect it all!), but the psvr 2 is loaded with very nice tech for what it is at least.

  • @Joshua3.33
    @Joshua3.33 Год назад +20

    Who really thought PSV2 would be 250 - 300 seriously?

    • @TheSMSpider
      @TheSMSpider Год назад

      How much was the first one on launch?

    • @MomirsLabTech
      @MomirsLabTech Год назад +8

      @@TheSMSpider 400, with the necessary ps move peripherals sold separately. So this essentially is the same price as the full psvr package when that is considered.

    • @AbrahamZX1
      @AbrahamZX1 Год назад +1

      @@TheSMSpider the bundle with camera and controllers was $500 on release.

    • @MomirsLabTech
      @MomirsLabTech Год назад

      @Mcckoe it's got as many exclusive titles as PS5 does though! 🤣 jkjk
      Unless 👀

    • @provokedamoke804
      @provokedamoke804 Год назад +1

      Look at other high end vr sets like the valve index. Vr sadly is going to be expensive for a while.

  • @sprintingsnail9492
    @sprintingsnail9492 Год назад +7

    Sam went all in lol...

  • @mekman4
    @mekman4 Год назад +1

    Great Stuff, as always.

  • @DougyFreshGames
    @DougyFreshGames Год назад +15

    Jada bossin up these podcasts. Im just waiting for the Callisto Protocol. 😂

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +1

      Same I'm really hoping it holds up to my optimistic expectations. Hope you enjoyed the show!

    • @mcdonaldjames446
      @mcdonaldjames446 Год назад

      Cant stand her

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад

      @@mcdonaldjames446 can't please everyone, and I don't care to try and do so.

  • @chriswy697
    @chriswy697 Год назад

    If you thought the Intellivoice module was great check out the end of Ben Hecks video on the 1985 RDI Halcyon Laserdisc game console w/ microphone gameplay and voice synthesis. ruclips.net/video/WCFpYHY3VFE/видео.html

  • @grimmaxiom
    @grimmaxiom Год назад +5

    Sam giving off big Grampa Simpson vibes this episode 😂

  • @ValentinaMoretti
    @ValentinaMoretti Год назад +6

    Sam has a very interesting point, these Sony games are starting to feel all the same, just different skin, it doesn’t mean it’s a bad game but it’s staring to feel old the same thing over and over again just a different setting.

    • @mikebeckett2164
      @mikebeckett2164 Год назад +2

      Yeah cause there’s a major difference in the souls games, platformers, FPS’s, open world RPG’s etc. The genre is the genre. So you will get an action story game in an action story game.

    • @guarinhunt1275
      @guarinhunt1275 Год назад

      Yeah like zelda games.

    • @Hunterese123
      @Hunterese123 Год назад

      @@mikebeckett2164 Right like this could be brought up in any genre

  • @Monolith64
    @Monolith64 Год назад +6

    These comments are maddening

  • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
    @0ooTheMAXXoo0 Год назад

    PSVR 2 is "the most fanciest" in wired VR headsets outside of super expensive specialist products... Integrating all the software and hardware tightly enough to do foveated rendering fast enough to be effective will be difficult on a windows platform. Maybe for a few years, PSVR2 should exclusively have the best VR graphics available to a mass market...

  • @remymartin15
    @remymartin15 Год назад

    If the PSVR2 was PC compatible I’d agree with the price but it isn’t

  • @Dr_DoomJazz
    @Dr_DoomJazz 13 дней назад

    Sam “Dissenting Opinion “ Claiborne

  • @J.bananas
    @J.bananas Год назад

    Only way i'll even think about getting VR is if they bring Half Life Alyx. Otherwise I'll maybe get one used towards the end of its life cycle.

  • @Monolith64
    @Monolith64 Год назад +6

    4:15 someone tell her to never play a Xenoblade game if that bothers her lol

  • @0ooTheMAXXoo0
    @0ooTheMAXXoo0 Год назад

    PSVR 2 has comparable specs and price to headsets that also include a mobile computer and battery that we would see in $500+ mobile phones... PSVR 2 should be way cheaper since it has no mid-to-high-range mobile phone hardware included...

  • @graznardolillo4589
    @graznardolillo4589 Год назад

    Where is Astro Bot rescue mission 2 for psvr 2?

  • @timothyhurley5920
    @timothyhurley5920 Год назад +7

    Jada is a great Scoop addition!

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +4

      It was a great day to be on Scoop! Hope to be back soon!

  • @mickael486
    @mickael486 Год назад +5

    One of the best GAME SCOOP!! episodes ever.
    Nicely Job. 💯

    • @mickael486
      @mickael486 Год назад +1

      Both Sam and Justin make me bust out laughing at least once when having an "issue" with Hatfield's Yes and No answers. The veiled frustration on their faces. 😁👌👍

  • @EXxileOnline
    @EXxileOnline Год назад +14

    Really enjoyed having Jada on this episode, you guys should have her on here more often.

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +7

      Thank you!!!! I'll make sure they know I'm sad I didn't get the 20 questions though, but all the more reason for me to comeback and try again for the glory.

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +2

      @@dogfood142 aww y'all are too kind I will definitely do my best to make more appearances on Scoop, it was a lot of fun! Hope you're having a great weekend!

  • @godribbon
    @godribbon Год назад +8

    Sam hit the nail on the head with Sony exclusives so hard it completely splintered

    • @pitchen
      @pitchen Год назад

      What, that they're all third person? How is that a criticism of anything?

    • @TundraBoy69
      @TundraBoy69 Год назад

      @@pitchen Cause they are all starting to feel like the same experience, people always bring this up.

    • @bdizzle9586
      @bdizzle9586 Год назад +2

      If you think UC4, TLOU2 and Ragnorak are the same experience you might want to actually give them a go.

    • @guarinhunt1275
      @guarinhunt1275 Год назад

      Bout the same as all the zelda games becoming the same experience.

  • @T.Sizzle
    @T.Sizzle Год назад

    What’s the song that was at the end?

    • @T.Sizzle
      @T.Sizzle Год назад

      The song at the end o the podcast, not here. Sounds like Daemon.

  • @1AJBOOMER
    @1AJBOOMER Год назад +1

    Can't wait 👌🏾

  • @Kulj_No1
    @Kulj_No1 Год назад +4

    SCOOP!

  • @anipuli
    @anipuli Год назад +1

    😂😂 marvel movies aren't formulaic and these games are? Lmfaoooooooooooo

  • @aaronjones6798
    @aaronjones6798 Год назад +1

    I'm wondering if VR could fail? None of them seem to be doing too well and maybe in 10 years the different companies will have decided it wasn't worth it and would have ceased production

  • @Scotty-it8ue
    @Scotty-it8ue Год назад +1

    PSVR 2’s price isn’t comparable to other similar spec VR units because you need the PS5 to play it unlike other units which are standalone which brings the price to play over £1000/$1000 which is a ridiculous price of entry!!!

  • @carlitocafe8101
    @carlitocafe8101 Год назад +5

    Happy to see Jada on scoop

  • @Theory104
    @Theory104 Год назад +16

    Got a bit tiring hearing Sam nitpicking over things about the game in a not very meaningful way. He could simply say it wasn't his type of game rather than list off everything that defines the game as bad.

    • @Woodlouse81
      @Woodlouse81 Год назад

      He did say that.

    • @Theory104
      @Theory104 Год назад +1

      @@Woodlouse81 In that case, simply stick to only saying it's not his type of game and leave it at that.

    • @Woodlouse81
      @Woodlouse81 Год назад +1

      @@Theory104 He was very clear he was just offering his own opinion, and not trying to yuck anyone’s yum. He then offered detailed and meaningful insights. Anyone offended he didn’t love itvas much as they expect to is being a bit silly.
      In other words, he was doing his job, and he did it well.

    • @ChemyNoSurfea
      @ChemyNoSurfea Год назад +3

      @@Theory104 "don't have opinions, just shut up"

  • @gwvaio
    @gwvaio Год назад

    Lol I’m not playing SF6

  • @cristobalc5425
    @cristobalc5425 Год назад +7

    Jada Griffin rules. 🧠💡💪🏽💯🤘

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад

      Thank you Cristobal hope you enjoyed the show and are having a fantastic weekend!

  • @shinkounova8485
    @shinkounova8485 Год назад +5

    Sam what the hell? At 21:40 you complain about what you unlock with the skill trees? LMAO that's been a GOW staple since the original games. Also, it's very common in single player action games.
    And how is that not interesting? It literally adds another layer of complexity to the video games. Plus, you prefer parries? That was in STREET FIGHTER games before all, if not, most games.

  • @coryk.9025
    @coryk.9025 Год назад

    Agree with Sam as usual, boring, bloated, by the books. Skip the skill trees and upgrades and dumb puzzles.

  • @Thewizzard15
    @Thewizzard15 Год назад +21

    Jada was on Scoop, Beyond, and NVC this week! Love it!

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +12

      I was going for the full gambit but missed unlocked and NGCW this week, we shall see if the stars align again and my schedule allows for me to go for it again haha. 😅

    • @firez7131
      @firez7131 Год назад +1

      Love you jada but you can't be on unlocked leave my xbots alone ... completely kidding obviously console wars only exist if you don't have all the platforms like a true gamer

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +2

      @@firez7131 haha exactly, I once had a friend tell me the only way to be happy is own all the consoles, which I laugh about nowadays but honestly if that was the case I think we all might have less of those stupid console war bickering filled arguments.

    • @firez7131
      @firez7131 Год назад

      @@jadarina5035 agree and honored for your reply now go plays games 🎮 😄

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +2

      @@firez7131 Playing some Marvel Snap as I type this my weekend is just about here, have a great weekend too and hope you get some great gaming time in as well!

  • @elpiquetegames787
    @elpiquetegames787 Год назад +7

    Awesome Jada is on the show 🔥

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +4

      Scoop was a lot of fun I hope you enjoyed the show!

  • @locoism1025
    @locoism1025 Год назад +18

    Justin is the type of dude who would give RAGNAROK a 6/10…

    • @dangerass1982
      @dangerass1982 Год назад +25

      @Mcckoe And Dark Souls gets a pass, why? It literally has been almost the same game four times now, with the exception being the open world that connects the levels of Dark Souls 4.

    • @jal.ajeera
      @jal.ajeera Год назад +22

      @@dangerass1982 Exactly! If Elden Ring can be considered a masterpiece for its gameplay which is literally the same for quite some years now, then GoW Ragnarok is a masterpiece too!!

    • @lynchdj
      @lynchdj Год назад +5

      @Mcckoe why would their be a generational leap? It’s on the PS4

    • @JMGauthier
      @JMGauthier Год назад +6

      Why do you care what his opinion is?

    • @Monolith64
      @Monolith64 Год назад +6

      He literally said it deserves all the 10/10s it’s getting???

  • @Wolvie10
    @Wolvie10 Год назад +16

    Sam is so raging! He wants it to be elden ring

    • @JMGauthier
      @JMGauthier Год назад +13

      Why do you care what his opinion is? He prefers open exploration than heavy story. That’s been very well established.
      No need to rage over someone’s opinion if it differs from yours.

    • @Monolith64
      @Monolith64 Год назад +4

      @@JMGauthier he has also said a bunch of times he didn’t like Elden ring lol

    • @JMGauthier
      @JMGauthier Год назад +2

      @@Monolith64 yeah 😂

  • @christophertorres5111
    @christophertorres5111 Год назад +14

    Oh man why Jada. Bring back Tina lol

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +13

      I too wish that I could have been on an episode of scoop with Tina, I will just have to coordinate my schedule with her next guest appearance.

    • @CampbellYoungblood
      @CampbellYoungblood Год назад +2

      Why comment that? Some people 🤦‍♂️

    • @R17759
      @R17759 Год назад +1

      You would never say this to her face so why are you commenting it?

  • @BiggTonyStyle
    @BiggTonyStyle Год назад +2

    Scoop!

  • @outremer84
    @outremer84 Год назад +15

    Not Jada. Is nothing sacred?

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +15

      Did something I say offend or hurt you?

    • @derekschwartz2127
      @derekschwartz2127 Год назад +12

      @@jadarina5035 he's probably just a dude that doesn't like women giving opinions

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +11

      @@derekschwartz2127 yeah it's sad that people still think and act like that, Hope you enjoyed today's Scoop!

    • @EXxileOnline
      @EXxileOnline Год назад +7

      Jada's great, dude. Sorry you can't see that.

    • @outremer84
      @outremer84 Год назад +5

      @@EXxileOnline s'all cool. We don't all have to like the same things.

  • @kanzerace
    @kanzerace Год назад +8

    So here are 3 votes that are not gonna have GoW as their GOTY. Its 3-1 for Elden Ring right now seems like. 😀 I am pulling for GoW of course. They should give us the tally this time around.🙂

    • @SkeeLoGreene
      @SkeeLoGreene Год назад +6

      Haven't watched the episode all the way yet, but Justin and Sam didn't play Elden Ring, so they aren't voting for it to win. Not sure if that's what you're implying

    • @Monolith64
      @Monolith64 Год назад +3

      Sam has said 1000 times his GOTY is Tunic

    • @ParadoxalDream
      @ParadoxalDream Год назад +2

      You're pulling for a game you haven't even played yet..? lol
      Here's what's wrong with gamer culture nowadays.

    • @apimb1396
      @apimb1396 Год назад

      Who cares....what do YOU like ? That's what matters

  • @slowcaltv2138
    @slowcaltv2138 Год назад

    1st!

  • @_phelix_
    @_phelix_ Год назад +8

    Yay Jada!

    • @jadarina5035
      @jadarina5035 Год назад +3

      Hope you liked the show Phelix! Excited for Ragnarok?

  • @ninja226
    @ninja226 Год назад +1

    The ps5 is not powerful enough to play Half-Life Alyx respectably. The recommended specs for that on pc are set low, and the game runs poor at those settings.

    • @ninja226
      @ninja226 Год назад

      @Mcckoe it simply is not. Eye tracking will do nothing for the game performance wise. Valve would have to implement something like fsr to help, even then it would be rough. RTX 3060 cards paired with 6+ core cpus that are all higher spec than the ps5 still struggle to run this game without frame drops on even medium settings. It COULD be possible, but would require a lot of work.

  • @ShadalooCV
    @ShadalooCV Год назад +2

    25:33 If you want to skip the GoW conversation