all i can think about is how long and hard these modelers and artists worked just for their work to either never be shown, or even worse, shown but never used.
This isn't nccart or arasaka docks situation, there is no indication of any cut content here. Just a cool LOD model with some ambient scenes set up on its edges to populate the space. If anything its a bit underwhelming compared to the petrochem facility just across the road
The prison (or as it's called internally detention center) is really just meant to be a landmark or set dressing, there's nothing in the game that would ever suggest otherwise, no cut content to be found anywhere, which is usually not the case. Also not many modelers worked on this specifically, as CDPR and many game studios use so called "kit-bash" technique, where you have premade general purpose sections like walls, floors etc... and they build stuff from it, there's not a signle prison specific model made for the game except for the "NC PRISON" sign... but obviously even just building the stuff from pre-made asets would take some time... so it's probably like a week of work worth for one person (excluding all the paperwork and planning ahead of time) And since there's nothing cut, their work has been worth it as others have said
@@lukasjech9954 yall can stretch that there’s “nothing” but a game about being a criminal has nothing to do with the prison? even if it’s just set dressing, everything else in this game is too. including almost every building in the game. i’m tired of “set dressing” in a city. let me explore the interesting parts of your world. either way, i’m disappointed
There are 4 immortal guards in the prison that are stuck in place and never move, they also never detect you if you try to aggro them. You can use them to farm XP via stealth takedowns.
the tower reminds me of the idea of the panopticon - a layout for a prison that would allow one guard to observe all prisoners without knowing if they would be watched or not
For Cyberpunk 2, they need to take this world here that they have already created and continue to refine and flesh out areas like these that they obviously had plans for that got cut short. With CDPR moving to a new engine for the next game, I'm worried they'll have to start from scratch and run into the same time crunch problems that the first game did.
I don't know how game developing works but I don't think they will have to start from scratch. They'll have to redo the entire map again but they do have the blue print with 2077 so now it'll just look better! I really hope they just add more things for us to do that help expand the world, like actually being able to use BDs without it being tied to any quest or gig.
@@mexamrcthe blueprint they currently have for the map is from the red engine, the engine they've used for the witcher games for years, moving to a new engine like unreal is completely starting from scratch with making the map it'd be like they have to do it from memory or look at the two games side by side and model the new one after the old one. It's not like a drag and drop into the new engine it's a lot of work. Remaking all textures, barriers, and collision for the ground.
Although what to look forward to is that last time they were fighting with the engine to make this game work, the next time they will be working with a familiar engine that most developers from just about any other company is comfortable with developing on, cdpr has hired a bunch of developers that have already proven to be skilled on other projects from other companies and cyberpunk Orion is probably the game to look forward to when it gets revealed maybe in the next 5 years or so
@@joshuajones589 its the reason I said blue print. They know size, look, lighting, details, everything where it should be. From scratch I meant they aren't starting from zero which is true. They have a NC map. They just have to rebuild it.
I think people need to realize that Night City is a city within the lore of cyperpunk and when they were developing the game the first plan of attack was to build a believable night city that the player can become immersed in. Just because a building or area doesnt have a mission connected to it doesnt mean its "cut content". The city is the content. V's story isnt Night City's story. It was around way before V and will be around way after. These areas and buildings have a purpose even if they serve no purpose for V.
I remember in the credits, the holocall from River, where if he goes through with what he wants to, he ends up in prison, and even asks you to break him out as one last favor. Maybe that was originally intended to be a mission for this location! Would've probably been a really sweet mission, maybe CDPR will fully realize this area in Orion
@morganblackhand2020 Sorry friend, but the Crystal Palace is an entire megalopolis and not just a big casino/resort, you can also have a number of possible story reasons to have cyberware inside of the crystal palace, or perhaps make its scarcity woven into the gameplay. Plus, the name "orion" kind of betrays the intention to keep things space-bound, if you ask me
@morganblackhand2020 Idk bro, I dont see CDPR recreating the entirety of night city in UE5 instead of just sticking to the same engine... Makes more sense to set the new game in the new engine somewhere else entirely, and then return to night city in a third... Time will tell
Can't remember which lore-video explained this, but the massive tower is the actual cell-block. Most Inmates are put in there in a kind of sarcophage, with a braindance set on and spend their jail time in a braindance, stuck to feeding and catheter tubes. Keeps things compact and efficient... and f*cking ultra-dystopian!
The tower is likely a SuperMAX prison vs the other buildings with A and B are standard cell blocks. The word you may have been thinking of is Oubliette. They may have created this in the early days for an incarceration system but given the main storyline and ticking clock, it would have been very bad to get thrown in jail for a month and die from the chip.
I think he meant "panopticon" tbh. But I don't think that building is quite large enough for one. Supermax cells as you said with maybe some prison admin facilities would make a little more sense.
An oubliette is a hole, just big enough for a single person to stand up. You can't even sit, let alone lay down, and usually people were dumped in there and forgotten about. Honestly, if we're talking horrific crimes (like Peter Pan), it's something I think we need to bring back.
I love these videos, however I do think that at a certain point people are just phishing for things to label as cut content. Some things are just made for atmosphere and worldbuilding, and that's okay. If they didn't include some of these shell buildings, people would say the world wasn't fleshed out. Some of my favorite CP2077 videos to watch are the ones where people tour the city and just walk through the streets, so I appreciate the fact that they put the prison and Petrochem facility in that block instead of another chunk of megabuilding city stuff; it adds to the variety and realism of the world, even if it's not playable.
You can enter the prison yard without mods, drive up to the wall in the back the road is high enough if you use a tall vehicle, jump from the vehicle roof to get over the fence.
The reason the first place you showed was populated but the entrance wasn't was because the first place would be where prisoners would be released and their family/whoever would pick them up. No squad cars up front is a bit disappointing though
To be honest I don't think the Prison was ever planned because there's not a single thing that was made for the interior to the prison compared to the Militech building in City Center. It's a very big immersion/scenery building, but I did wish we could of done something. The same way the High School is very detailed and has some dialogue associated with it but you obviously can't enter the school. Maybe you can do a video on that?
"That prison played a part in River's (who was called Sobchak back then) main quests, however later those were replaced by Takemura's storyline. It wasn't a big part, since we were only supposed to visit this location twice to talk with NPC's, but fairly crucial in terms of narrative. In the first prison scene V and River interrogated a witness and in the second one they would return to talk with a psychologist who was taking care of said witness. After Takemura's introduction, that River main quest was partially merged with a sidequest about Lucius Rhyne's investigation (River, in fact, didn't appear at all in the old version of that sidequest). Since the main storyline was rewritten around inclusion of Goro, that prison location was simply no longer needed (outside of one of the possible River's endings). The main reason behind that change seems to be that developers decided the Arasaka storyline would work better narratively by having a Corpo character as V's "partner", as well as incorporating some general changes they made to Arasaka's plotline (for example, in the older version Hanako was more of an antagonist, rather then potential ally/wolf in sheep's clothing)." Also - theres a prison suited river inside gamefiles
@@helline9 it's mentioned the school is in lagoona bend which is the flooded town Judy is from. Besides, the memory is an elementary school and not a high school.
@@CyberMetalhead Thanks for bringing the facts. A lot of people are spreading misinformation in the comments. Prison-suited River is used in the end credits though.
The team or dev in charge of this area was likely told to design it with the possibility of gameplay, which obviously never came to be. I wouldn't be surprised if every part of Night City was meant to be playable in the GDD, but when it came time to actually make the game, they had to pick and choose. They probably future-proofed this area in the hopes of DLC content.
Yeah pretty sure that's how they did it. Generate the playable area, have different artists work on different areas and fill in EVERYTHING with a believable city, but in low-definition, and then when it came to deciding actual gig locations, adding more details to those areas. A final pass would have chosen the final locations for further development and cut previous locations, which were then culled if necessary or just walled off.
Made me remember GTA V prison. It also don't have modeled interiors, but there is a mission in GTAO in it, all happens on the courtyard and walkable/drivable area of the prison. So could be something along those lines, maybe a assassination or a rescue, but also even a disguise mission, where we pretend to be inmates and go undercover in the yard at the sunbath hour to collect intel or again assassinate.
I was really surprised that there wasn't a main mission prison break with Jackie or yourself with cyberware jammers all over so you'd have do it the old fashioned way.
To me, I'd say that the tower (what you called a power generator) would be the main cell block of braindance locked prisoners. Having the dangerous prisoners trapped in braindance would cut down on operating costs, because it would be private prison. If the police system was further developed you could be put in the yard till you pay off your fine. and the yard area could be used for side quests too; questioning prisoners for information, that kind of thing.
I was driving by this place and there were a whole bunch of npcs inside with guns and all started to shoot at me through the walls where I couldn't see them, but the smart weapons would lock onto them and it's how I got the skippy quest done lol
holy shit, this is exactly the content i've been looking for. and to top it off, it's being presented like it's a very casual chill convo with a friend who's very passionate about the game. I'm gonna binge the fuck out of your channel bro. Thank you for the great work
Lol, this building until now make me Wonder why they need prison again? i hit some car at 2.02 version and the police instantly shooting at me wanted me dead, I mean I just bump it by accident, cannot I just get my ticket for it??? Instead, i have no choice whatsoever except escape or I would die any way (even after killing 1000 police in the end, we have to escape to end it).
the prison, casino, and arasaka waterfront wouldve been great to have fleshed out as a second DLC :( imagine if there was three entirely unique quests depending on chosen backstory for the main game... Like, DLC 2 would give you a prison questline for streetkid V, a waterfront questline for corpo V, and a casino questline for Nomad V
ah thank you for covering this part of the map! I stumbled upon this part recently and tried seeing if I could break in. I blasted a bunch of quickhacks onto the people at one of the entrances and I started to notice there was a mix between prisoners (with guns for some reason) and some police in the back. The further I went to explore I notice a riot at a different block of the prison with a line of policemen. This prison gave me the same vibe as the Arasaka water front in being a pretty big unfinished area. As for what purpose it was supposed to serve? Well only thing I can think of directly is Joshua Sephenson who was wearing a prison jumpsuit. This is a very shallow similarity but maybe there was a scenario where you'd end up with him being sent back and you having to visit him? Other things I can think of is having the ncpd dispatches tie into this just like the ncpd building next to your megabuilding's entrance. This is just speculation, there's literally no indication of anything beyond what we see as it is and maybe it was never really intended to be fully fledged.
a prison break mission in the cyberpunk universe would be really interesting. it'd be cool to see how cyberpunk would structure a prison complex and what kinds of cool security features they'd have in there to avoid prisoners from escaping, like ID tags and disabling cyberware.
Imagine writing an entire Street Kid career-path, one of only three career-paths written for your game, and not including a single scene of a Street Kid spending a bid at NC Prison.
It would have been so cool to have done a prison break job there. I gather the tower is a huge vertical cell block, Jeremy Bentham’s design with central guard posts on each tier. A Panopticon-type prison common in the US and Britain in the 18th and 19th Century. A job like that would be great for stealth players looking to avoid guards 360* around. Maybe find the perp and carry them out all without being seen, using cameras, etc. Dishonored, Knife of Dunwall gave us that with Coldridge Prison. Pitty there are so many possibilities with Cyberpunk.
I bet that there was a 4th lifepath in the works before it got scrapped, where you were Felon who was excused, or broken out, and you used to be a Gangster, and somewhere along the line, you meet Jackie, and when there's anything regarding the Mafia, Gangs, or the Criminal underworld, and on goings within Night City, you're an expert on that topic, this would be especially useful in the quests that involve River Ward, where you have unique dialouge options like all the other life paths do. Fyi, I think the prison goes underground.
I really really REALLY hope that they use the current Map for the future Orion Cyberpunk Game and fill all those areas with life. God... I want to explore the prison, those rich people estates, the oil fields, more ghost towns, all those Megabuildings and Corprotae Skyscrapers so badly. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077's map isn't the biggest in area but holy hell is there a lot to unpack.
Yeah I hope they return to NC , just port the map over to save work and fill it out , open up buildings and such NC is a character all its own I seriously doubt they'd do a different city and since it's already been imagined in a 3d space they can't really change it much so it just makes sense to keep the world and improve on it
I find your vids fascinating: The unborn world which we couldn't see. It kinda sad tho, but in the same time it makes me exciting that this is potential content which might be added to the game later on.
The tower reminds me of a vertical storage unit. Could very well be just planned as prison cells with an automated elevator in the center, then rotating to the cell and let inmates in and out. Would fit the dystopian world pretty well.
I think the tower and its size is meant to be some large sleeper pod chamber, space and guards inside isnt needed and sleeper or cryopods can be stacked up together, prisoners would be woken up for rec and then put back to sleep day and in out until their sentence ends
Considering the population size of NC and the incredibly high crime rate, it's a pretty tiny prison. It probably wouldn't hold more than a couple thousand, unless the facility extends underground
One of the comics shows the interior of the prison, the big pillar at the entrance is actually supposed to be the cell block, it extends up like a sort of mega-building of its own. Defiantly cut content, this place has tons of lore, art and implications around it.
I think what we see on top of the prison is a vertical cell block structure. Often times it makes sense to build up instead of out and it leaves prisoners with just one way in or out of the prison.
It looks more like just decoration. But we can see a metro road going on top of this area, so maybe it has some detailing, cause it may supposed to be seen from metro cabin, before metro system was cut..
It would have been cool if you had some kind of mission where you need to purposely generate a wanted level to a certain star rating, and then get arrested. Whilst in the prision you maybe, set someone or have to kill a particular inmate, then something like pay off a cop to be released. It'd just be more to show the corruption and corruption within the city.
It's weird because we're never really supposed to see over the wall? Like it's high up, there's no little peaks or anything. So for the place to be fairly detailed just for the sake of scenery isn't that far fetched but still odd how detail it is inside and how elaborate the Npc's spawn in. My only guess was that they originally planned to make a gig or side missions related to this place. maybe even add a feature where V goes to prison. But figured it would've costed too much time, money and probably too much for consoles to handle with everything else included. They probably had to pick and choose what to add and the prison was cut for those reasons. So they never went any farther than what we see now.
I'm surprised you didn't show how you can easily break into and out of w/out the use of no clip! You can easily drive a truck/van over to one corner and double jump over the fence. I farm the security guards there pretty often, even on the hardest difficulty you can easily work your way around the prison grounds and wipe them all out. Plus it's a pretty fun environment to stand off with the police because more than half the time they will just spawn outside of the walls on the street where you can pick them off.
lmao i remember seeing the prisons and getting curious about them, so i used the big jump upgrade and parkour to get inside the fences just to find it completely empty. after that i just went around to the other prisons just murdering gaurds for fun
The whole terrace surrounding Wish we could've have missions here! Check out Mega building H2! It's so dense and vertical that it looks like they meant to have an apartment there, and a bunch of missions. That area alone could be it's on dlc like all these buildings
My theory is that there was never any plans to flesh out this prison in any way. I think the amount it is detailed and the fact that NPCs spawn within the prison yard is a holdover from plans to have the metro be a usable thing. You can see one of the lines goes right over part of the prison, and another line goes near by. Both would have easy sightlines into the prison yard, and be close enough that there would need to be NPCs visible within the grounds, but not close enough to need things to be too detailed or dynamic.
Would've been cool to have a gig or little side story where you have to steal a guard's ID card/identity, get into the cell block and smuggle some prisoner outta there, something along those lines... "Don't mind me fellas, just gotta transport this prisoner to his court appearance". I totally get that not every part of this game, or any game for that matter, is gonna be fully detailed and explorable but man, Night City is just such a beautiful world that I want every bit of it to be explorable. In the beginning of the street kid lifepath, Jacky does mention the prison, something about it being a "standing room only nowadays" if my memory serves correct. It seems so small for a prison in a city full of criminals...
with how good cyberpunk looks already and how fleshed out the majority of NC is, i really hope that the next cyberpunk game just takes the current NC map and expands upon it, fleshing out these areas that haven't been touched properly in the main game
You know, I actually stumbled across this without even realising what it was, just seeing it from ground level trying to lose the Police. I then got shot at by the guards on the other side of the gate and basically spent the next 10 minutes shooting it out, and then hightailing it as Police started swarming me - again.
Wouldve been cool if it was a cyberpsycho rehab facility where you could join maxtac after maxtac kills you since cops never actually try to arrest you
I believe that alot of the building that are included into night city. Even though they do not have missions or gig. The devs used these buildings in their hidden quest line. Depending on the area or Corp that might own it. These buildings hold energy sources. That the player would need to find and unlock. So general sense is they have made 2 games in 1. One is have fun being this awesome killing machine. The other is a brain squeeze that you need to figure out on your own.
Hopefully they add like whenever you get caught u have to choice to escape from there or work you way out or something like starfield did like work as a undercover cop and do some sick missions
i wanted to say the prison is finally strangly small for a city like night city.. n i remembered that police started to shot before asking your name... starting to shoot if you have a car accident... it could have been interesting to going in nc prison if you get caught by police instead trying to kill you for nothing.
Strange for sure. 7:03 there's windows in the round building with some sort of low res interior texturing, not able to make out what it is, just looks like a mess of copy and pasted textures with no rhyme or reason.
I hope they do some more free DLCs without fancy actors. Just quest content and extra territory. Just expand the content before the heist, so we get more time with Jacky and T-Bug. Simply more testing jobs from Dex before he lets you do anything related to the heist. Do four to five jobs for him and then he lets you in on the actual jobs. So his betrayal is even more bitter.
It's honestly insane how much of cyberpunk's map is just cut or unfinished content. Never realized just how much of it there was until let's started watching your vids. I guess it's a compliment to CDPR bc the world never felt as empty as it actually is atleast to me it didn't.
Another example that CP77 is definitely rushed out so much, there are tons of places in the city that could’ve been taken advantage of. Hopefully CP2 will be a lot more flushed out and have “endless” quests and activities.
Gonna come back 10 years from now(assuming we aren't all dead from nuclear war or any other manmade or natural disaster) and see if modders made all these place accessible and playable with its own quest. Modding is much more accesible for CP2077 due to LUA scripts, also there's the ability to use AI for voice overs now.
I wonder, when a person goes to prison in NC, are they stripped off their cyberware? Or like get a blocker installed in them or something, because I doubt they would let the inmates keep those haha
i remember first time i got there, there were some gang members, and as i shot em down police on the other side of fence aggro'd on me, so i had to shoot them down too with my magnetic pistol, but i was absolutely surprized you cant go inside, as the door remains shut and all those ncpd members and droids keep shooting you from the other side of fence man, that was awful
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all i can think about is how long and hard these modelers and artists worked just for their work to either never be shown, or even worse, shown but never used.
they are shown, the building is in the game, serving a purpose that is "world building"
gta 5 a game from ten years ago did more with a prison in the middle of nowhere@@orbit1894
This isn't nccart or arasaka docks situation, there is no indication of any cut content here. Just a cool LOD model with some ambient scenes set up on its edges to populate the space. If anything its a bit underwhelming compared to the petrochem facility just across the road
The prison (or as it's called internally detention center) is really just meant to be a landmark or set dressing, there's nothing in the game that would ever suggest otherwise, no cut content to be found anywhere, which is usually not the case.
Also not many modelers worked on this specifically, as CDPR and many game studios use so called "kit-bash" technique, where you have premade general purpose sections like walls, floors etc... and they build stuff from it, there's not a signle prison specific model made for the game except for the "NC PRISON" sign... but obviously even just building the stuff from pre-made asets would take some time... so it's probably like a week of work worth for one person (excluding all the paperwork and planning ahead of time)
And since there's nothing cut, their work has been worth it as others have said
@@lukasjech9954 yall can stretch that there’s “nothing” but a game about being a criminal has nothing to do with the prison? even if it’s just set dressing, everything else in this game is too. including almost every building in the game. i’m tired of “set dressing” in a city. let me explore the interesting parts of your world. either way, i’m disappointed
There are 4 immortal guards in the prison that are stuck in place and never move, they also never detect you if you try to aggro them. You can use them to farm XP via stealth takedowns.
@morganblackhand2020 with all the new abilities like dash its easier than ever to get all kinds of places.
@@nope9698 You don't need that, just fortified ankles works fine.
the tower reminds me of the idea of the panopticon - a layout for a prison that would allow one guard to observe all prisoners without knowing if they would be watched or not
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For Cyberpunk 2, they need to take this world here that they have already created and continue to refine and flesh out areas like these that they obviously had plans for that got cut short. With CDPR moving to a new engine for the next game, I'm worried they'll have to start from scratch and run into the same time crunch problems that the first game did.
I don't know how game developing works but I don't think they will have to start from scratch. They'll have to redo the entire map again but they do have the blue print with 2077 so now it'll just look better!
I really hope they just add more things for us to do that help expand the world, like actually being able to use BDs without it being tied to any quest or gig.
@@mexamrcthe blueprint they currently have for the map is from the red engine, the engine they've used for the witcher games for years, moving to a new engine like unreal is completely starting from scratch with making the map it'd be like they have to do it from memory or look at the two games side by side and model the new one after the old one. It's not like a drag and drop into the new engine it's a lot of work. Remaking all textures, barriers, and collision for the ground.
Although what to look forward to is that last time they were fighting with the engine to make this game work, the next time they will be working with a familiar engine that most developers from just about any other company is comfortable with developing on, cdpr has hired a bunch of developers that have already proven to be skilled on other projects from other companies and cyberpunk Orion is probably the game to look forward to when it gets revealed maybe in the next 5 years or so
Cyberpunk 2079?
@@joshuajones589 its the reason I said blue print. They know size, look, lighting, details, everything where it should be. From scratch I meant they aren't starting from zero which is true. They have a NC map. They just have to rebuild it.
My theory around why all these environments seem to have quite a lot of effort put into them is that you'd be able to see them from the metro.
That makes a bit of sense. Not too detailed, but touched up and populated because the metro passes overhead.
I think people need to realize that Night City is a city within the lore of cyperpunk and when they were developing the game the first plan of attack was to build a believable night city that the player can become immersed in. Just because a building or area doesnt have a mission connected to it doesnt mean its "cut content". The city is the content. V's story isnt Night City's story. It was around way before V and will be around way after. These areas and buildings have a purpose even if they serve no purpose for V.
I remember in the credits, the holocall from River, where if he goes through with what he wants to, he ends up in prison, and even asks you to break him out as one last favor. Maybe that was originally intended to be a mission for this location! Would've probably been a really sweet mission, maybe CDPR will fully realize this area in Orion
It wouldnt surprise me if we spent the entirety of orion on the Crystal Palace and didnt visit Night City at all.
@morganblackhand2020 Sorry friend, but the Crystal Palace is an entire megalopolis and not just a big casino/resort, you can also have a number of possible story reasons to have cyberware inside of the crystal palace, or perhaps make its scarcity woven into the gameplay. Plus, the name "orion" kind of betrays the intention to keep things space-bound, if you ask me
@morganblackhand2020 Idk bro, I dont see CDPR recreating the entirety of night city in UE5 instead of just sticking to the same engine... Makes more sense to set the new game in the new engine somewhere else entirely, and then return to night city in a third... Time will tell
@morganblackhand2020 Its not just a luxury space station! Its a parallel society that quadruples the scale of night city my dude!
@administrator7393 each ring is 2km long. You want vehicles? How about AVs that allow you to maneuver throughout space and the roadways in the palace?
The NCART going over the prison makes special deliveries a breeze
the word you were looking for @ 2:50 was “panopticon”
That’s it, I remember learning about it in a level sociology
2:57 Panopticon is the name you where looking for and yeh i think thats what its suposed to be
Can't remember which lore-video explained this, but the massive tower is the actual cell-block. Most Inmates are put in there in a kind of sarcophage, with a braindance set on and spend their jail time in a braindance, stuck to feeding and catheter tubes. Keeps things compact and efficient... and f*cking ultra-dystopian!
meh..still better than getting potentially stabbed for looking someone in the eye lmao
The tower is likely a SuperMAX prison vs the other buildings with A and B are standard cell blocks. The word you may have been thinking of is Oubliette.
They may have created this in the early days for an incarceration system but given the main storyline and ticking clock, it would have been very bad to get thrown in jail for a month and die from the chip.
I think he meant "panopticon" tbh. But I don't think that building is quite large enough for one. Supermax cells as you said with maybe some prison admin facilities would make a little more sense.
An oubliette is a hole, just big enough for a single person to stand up. You can't even sit, let alone lay down, and usually people were dumped in there and forgotten about.
Honestly, if we're talking horrific crimes (like Peter Pan), it's something I think we need to bring back.
I love these videos, however I do think that at a certain point people are just phishing for things to label as cut content. Some things are just made for atmosphere and worldbuilding, and that's okay. If they didn't include some of these shell buildings, people would say the world wasn't fleshed out. Some of my favorite CP2077 videos to watch are the ones where people tour the city and just walk through the streets, so I appreciate the fact that they put the prison and Petrochem facility in that block instead of another chunk of megabuilding city stuff; it adds to the variety and realism of the world, even if it's not playable.
You can enter the prison yard without mods, drive up to the wall in the back the road is high enough if you use a tall vehicle, jump from the vehicle roof to get over the fence.
The reason the first place you showed was populated but the entrance wasn't was because the first place would be where prisoners would be released and their family/whoever would pick them up. No squad cars up front is a bit disappointing though
To be honest I don't think the Prison was ever planned because there's not a single thing that was made for the interior to the prison compared to the Militech building in City Center.
It's a very big immersion/scenery building, but I did wish we could of done something.
The same way the High School is very detailed and has some dialogue associated with it but you obviously can't enter the school. Maybe you can do a video on that?
"That prison played a part in River's (who was called Sobchak back then) main quests, however later those were replaced by Takemura's storyline. It wasn't a big part, since we were only supposed to visit this location twice to talk with NPC's, but fairly crucial in terms of narrative. In the first prison scene V and River interrogated a witness and in the second one they would return to talk with a psychologist who was taking care of said witness.
After Takemura's introduction, that River main quest was partially merged with a sidequest about Lucius Rhyne's investigation (River, in fact, didn't appear at all in the old version of that sidequest). Since the main storyline was rewritten around inclusion of Goro, that prison location was simply no longer needed (outside of one of the possible River's endings). The main reason behind that change seems to be that developers decided the Arasaka storyline would work better narratively by having a Corpo character as V's "partner", as well as incorporating some general changes they made to Arasaka's plotline (for example, in the older version Hanako was more of an antagonist, rather then potential ally/wolf in sheep's clothing)." Also - theres a prison suited river inside gamefiles
the school is used in a quest though (the creepy farm quest with River)
@@helline9 it's mentioned the school is in lagoona bend which is the flooded town Judy is from. Besides, the memory is an elementary school and not a high school.
@@CyberMetalhead Thanks for bringing the facts. A lot of people are spreading misinformation in the comments.
Prison-suited River is used in the end credits though.
@@Yusuke_Denton true, forgot about that credits
The team or dev in charge of this area was likely told to design it with the possibility of gameplay, which obviously never came to be. I wouldn't be surprised if every part of Night City was meant to be playable in the GDD, but when it came time to actually make the game, they had to pick and choose. They probably future-proofed this area in the hopes of DLC content.
Yeah pretty sure that's how they did it. Generate the playable area, have different artists work on different areas and fill in EVERYTHING with a believable city, but in low-definition, and then when it came to deciding actual gig locations, adding more details to those areas. A final pass would have chosen the final locations for further development and cut previous locations, which were then culled if necessary or just walled off.
Makes sense, and if a location didn't pan out, it still makes for good set-dressing without having to do any extra work.
Made me remember GTA V prison. It also don't have modeled interiors, but there is a mission in GTAO in it, all happens on the courtyard and walkable/drivable area of the prison. So could be something along those lines, maybe a assassination or a rescue, but also even a disguise mission, where we pretend to be inmates and go undercover in the yard at the sunbath hour to collect intel or again assassinate.
I could imagine another start to take place from the prison, either breaking out together with Jackie or just meeting him there as a cell-mate
I was really surprised that there wasn't a main mission prison break with Jackie or yourself with cyberware jammers all over so you'd have do it the old fashioned way.
I mean path thingy got removed so maybe it was part of the streetkid lifepath we'll never know
To me, I'd say that the tower (what you called a power generator) would be the main cell block of braindance locked prisoners. Having the dangerous prisoners trapped in braindance would cut down on operating costs, because it would be private prison.
If the police system was further developed you could be put in the yard till you pay off your fine.
and the yard area could be used for side quests too; questioning prisoners for information, that kind of thing.
I was driving by this place and there were a whole bunch of npcs inside with guns and all started to shoot at me through the walls where I couldn't see them, but the smart weapons would lock onto them and it's how I got the skippy quest done lol
The word you’re looking for is “panopticon”
Its called a 'panopticon' friend :)
holy shit, this is exactly the content i've been looking for. and to top it off, it's being presented like it's a very casual chill convo with a friend who's very passionate about the game. I'm gonna binge the fuck out of your channel bro. Thank you for the great work
Lol, this building until now make me Wonder why they need prison again? i hit some car at 2.02 version and the police instantly shooting at me wanted me dead, I mean I just bump it by accident, cannot I just get my ticket for it??? Instead, i have no choice whatsoever except escape or I would die any way (even after killing 1000 police in the end, we have to escape to end it).
All these empty places make me feel so said for what could have been.
the prison, casino, and arasaka waterfront wouldve been great to have fleshed out as a second DLC :( imagine if there was three entirely unique quests depending on chosen backstory for the main game... Like, DLC 2 would give you a prison questline for streetkid V, a waterfront questline for corpo V, and a casino questline for Nomad V
ah thank you for covering this part of the map! I stumbled upon this part recently and tried seeing if I could break in. I blasted a bunch of quickhacks onto the people at one of the entrances and I started to notice there was a mix between prisoners (with guns for some reason) and some police in the back. The further I went to explore I notice a riot at a different block of the prison with a line of policemen. This prison gave me the same vibe as the Arasaka water front in being a pretty big unfinished area. As for what purpose it was supposed to serve? Well only thing I can think of directly is Joshua Sephenson who was wearing a prison jumpsuit. This is a very shallow similarity but maybe there was a scenario where you'd end up with him being sent back and you having to visit him? Other things I can think of is having the ncpd dispatches tie into this just like the ncpd building next to your megabuilding's entrance. This is just speculation, there's literally no indication of anything beyond what we see as it is and maybe it was never really intended to be fully fledged.
Panopticon
It’s called a panopticon.
Panopticon Prisons - have a central observation and no blind spots.
a prison break mission in the cyberpunk universe would be really interesting. it'd be cool to see how cyberpunk would structure a prison complex and what kinds of cool security features they'd have in there to avoid prisoners from escaping, like ID tags and disabling cyberware.
Fun fact : Earlier iterations of the game were supposed to have a bounty system
Source : That big video leak
What video leak?
Once again RUclips deleted my comment, I guess I can't post links, look up "Cyberpunk 2077 leak"
Imagine writing an entire Street Kid career-path, one of only three career-paths written for your game, and not including a single scene of a Street Kid spending a bid at NC Prison.
Fun fact. NPCs and vehicle density is based off time of day in this game throughout the whole city.
The word you were looking for is "panopticon." It's a prison design that has found wide use outside of prisons
It would have been so cool to have done a prison break job there. I gather the tower is a huge vertical cell block, Jeremy Bentham’s design with central guard posts on each tier. A Panopticon-type prison common in the US and Britain in the 18th and 19th Century. A job like that would be great for stealth players looking to avoid guards 360* around. Maybe find the perp and carry them out all without being seen, using cameras, etc. Dishonored, Knife of Dunwall gave us that with Coldridge Prison. Pitty there are so many possibilities with Cyberpunk.
I bet that there was a 4th lifepath in the works before it got scrapped, where you were Felon who was excused, or broken out, and you used to be a Gangster, and somewhere along the line, you meet Jackie, and when there's anything regarding the Mafia, Gangs, or the Criminal underworld, and on goings within Night City, you're an expert on that topic, this would be especially useful in the quests that involve River Ward, where you have unique dialouge options like all the other life paths do.
Fyi, I think the prison goes underground.
Panopticon.
It's called a panopticon
Was waiting for this one, keep up the good work :)
I really really REALLY hope that they use the current Map for the future Orion Cyberpunk Game and fill all those areas with life. God... I want to explore the prison, those rich people estates, the oil fields, more ghost towns, all those Megabuildings and Corprotae Skyscrapers so badly. Maybe Cyberpunk 2077's map isn't the biggest in area but holy hell is there a lot to unpack.
Yeah I hope they return to NC , just port the map over to save work and fill it out , open up buildings and such
NC is a character all its own I seriously doubt they'd do a different city and since it's already been imagined in a 3d space they can't really change it much so it just makes sense to keep the world and improve on it
I find your vids fascinating: The unborn world which we couldn't see. It kinda sad tho, but in the same time it makes me exciting that this is potential content which might be added to the game later on.
2:55 You're thinking about a panopticon
The tower reminds me of a vertical storage unit. Could very well be just planned as prison cells with an automated elevator in the center, then rotating to the cell and let inmates in and out. Would fit the dystopian world pretty well.
I think the tower and its size is meant to be some large sleeper pod chamber, space and guards inside isnt needed and sleeper or cryopods can be stacked up together, prisoners would be woken up for rec and then put back to sleep day and in out until their sentence ends
There's an Easter egg for Trailer Park Boys at the side entrance. Came across Bubbles, Ricky, and Julian one night after they got released.
Keep pumping out this awesome content! Always wondered about this place.
Absolutely will do
Ik im 3 months late, but i just found your page a week ago and this type of content is keeping the game alive for me 💯
Considering the population size of NC and the incredibly high crime rate, it's a pretty tiny prison. It probably wouldn't hold more than a couple thousand, unless the facility extends underground
6:53 there looks to be an interior inside the panopticon! Can you check it out? 👉👈🥺
One of the comics shows the interior of the prison, the big pillar at the entrance is actually supposed to be the cell block, it extends up like a sort of mega-building of its own. Defiantly cut content, this place has tons of lore, art and implications around it.
I think what we see on top of the prison is a vertical cell block structure. Often times it makes sense to build up instead of out and it leaves prisoners with just one way in or out of the prison.
interesting take i like it
It looks more like just decoration. But we can see a metro road going on top of this area, so maybe it has some detailing, cause it may supposed to be seen from metro cabin, before metro system was cut..
It would have been cool if you had some kind of mission where you need to purposely generate a wanted level to a certain star rating, and then get arrested. Whilst in the prision you maybe, set someone or have to kill a particular inmate, then something like pay off a cop to be released. It'd just be more to show the corruption and corruption within the city.
It's weird because we're never really supposed to see over the wall?
Like it's high up, there's no little peaks or anything.
So for the place to be fairly detailed just for the sake of scenery isn't that far fetched but still odd how detail it is inside and how elaborate the Npc's spawn in.
My only guess was that they originally planned to make a gig or side missions related to this place. maybe even add a feature where V goes to prison. But figured it would've costed too much time, money and probably too much for consoles to handle with everything else included.
They probably had to pick and choose what to add and the prison was cut for those reasons. So they never went any farther than what we see now.
I'm surprised you didn't show how you can easily break into and out of w/out the use of no clip! You can easily drive a truck/van over to one corner and double jump over the fence. I farm the security guards there pretty often, even on the hardest difficulty you can easily work your way around the prison grounds and wipe them all out. Plus it's a pretty fun environment to stand off with the police because more than half the time they will just spawn outside of the walls on the street where you can pick them off.
lmao i remember seeing the prisons and getting curious about them, so i used the big jump upgrade and parkour to get inside the fences just to find it completely empty. after that i just went around to the other prisons just murdering gaurds for fun
The whole terrace surrounding
Wish we could've have missions here!
Check out Mega building H2!
It's so dense and vertical that it looks like they meant to have an apartment there, and a bunch of missions.
That area alone could be it's on dlc like all these buildings
My theory is that there was never any plans to flesh out this prison in any way. I think the amount it is detailed and the fact that NPCs spawn within the prison yard is a holdover from plans to have the metro be a usable thing. You can see one of the lines goes right over part of the prison, and another line goes near by. Both would have easy sightlines into the prison yard, and be close enough that there would need to be NPCs visible within the grounds, but not close enough to need things to be too detailed or dynamic.
love these videos man thank you
According to lore, the tower is the actual prison and everything else is additional facilities.
Your videos have convinced me to finally purchase this game lol
The circular prison with no blind spots is called a Panopticon.
Would've been cool to have a gig or little side story where you have to steal a guard's ID card/identity, get into the cell block and smuggle some prisoner outta there, something along those lines... "Don't mind me fellas, just gotta transport this prisoner to his court appearance". I totally get that not every part of this game, or any game for that matter, is gonna be fully detailed and explorable but man, Night City is just such a beautiful world that I want every bit of it to be explorable. In the beginning of the street kid lifepath, Jacky does mention the prison, something about it being a "standing room only nowadays" if my memory serves correct. It seems so small for a prison in a city full of criminals...
If you explore the courtyard you can find a group of arasaka netrunners in training who will try to shoot you if they detect you.
with how good cyberpunk looks already and how fleshed out the majority of NC is, i really hope that the next cyberpunk game just takes the current NC map and expands upon it, fleshing out these areas that haven't been touched properly in the main game
You know, I actually stumbled across this without even realising what it was, just seeing it from ground level trying to lose the Police. I then got shot at by the guards on the other side of the gate and basically spent the next 10 minutes shooting it out, and then hightailing it as Police started swarming me - again.
Every game of this size and caliber should have a prison break quest
I believe the word you were looking for at 2:47 is panoptic or 'panopticon prison' :)
Love your videos =D Glad the suscribers are going up
100% prison was meant for somthing because there's hidden invulnerable guards in there too. But the quest/gig definitely got scrapped early.
Sad to see all this content unused but hopefully they tap it for the sequel. Prison gigs or missions with a functional police system would be sick.
Wouldve been cool if it was a cyberpsycho rehab facility where you could join maxtac after maxtac kills you since cops never actually try to arrest you
I believe that alot of the building that are included into night city. Even though they do not have missions or gig. The devs used these buildings in their hidden quest line. Depending on the area or Corp that might own it. These buildings hold energy sources. That the player would need to find and unlock. So general sense is they have made 2 games in 1. One is have fun being this awesome killing machine. The other is a brain squeeze that you need to figure out on your own.
The guards inside, behind the wall can shoot through it. And it seems to me that this is not a bug, they do this all the time
Expect the second game to feature many of these locations. My guess is that they will make it look more detailed with fully exploitable interior.
been playing CP for like 185h and... i´ve NEVER seen or noticed a feckin Prison
Hopefully they add like whenever you get caught u have to choice to escape from there or work you way out or something like starfield did like work as a undercover cop and do some sick missions
Man I wish cdpr were this invested in the game
The word you're looking for is "panopticum" :)
i wanted to say the prison is finally strangly small for a city like night city.. n i remembered that police started to shot before asking your name... starting to shoot if you have a car accident... it could have been interesting to going in nc prison if you get caught by police instead trying to kill you for nothing.
if cyberpunk had launched perfectly then im sure we would have had way more cut content re-introduced as DLC's or expansions
ive seen this place so many times i always kept getting shot and i thought it was some mission or something but theres no way to get in
Strange for sure. 7:03 there's windows in the round building with some sort of low res interior texturing, not able to make out what it is, just looks like a mess of copy and pasted textures with no rhyme or reason.
I hope they do some more free DLCs without fancy actors. Just quest content and extra territory. Just expand the content before the heist, so we get more time with Jacky and T-Bug.
Simply more testing jobs from Dex before he lets you do anything related to the heist.
Do four to five jobs for him and then he lets you in on the actual jobs. So his betrayal is even more bitter.
The name of the prison is a Bentham's Panopticon - I thought the same as soon as I saw it.
The prison would be the size of half the city with all these criminals
It's honestly insane how much of cyberpunk's map is just cut or unfinished content. Never realized just how much of it there was until let's started watching your vids. I guess it's a compliment to CDPR bc the world never felt as empty as it actually is atleast to me it didn't.
Another example that CP77 is definitely rushed out so much, there are tons of places in the city that could’ve been taken advantage of. Hopefully CP2 will be a lot more flushed out and have “endless” quests and activities.
Doesn't truly feel cut, just unused.
Gonna come back 10 years from now(assuming we aren't all dead from nuclear war or any other manmade or natural disaster) and see if modders made all these place accessible and playable with its own quest. Modding is much more accesible for CP2077 due to LUA scripts, also there's the ability to use AI for voice overs now.
the word you were looking for is panopticon :)
hoping for a group of modders to make use of all the empty space and make Night City truly Live.
i have 300+ hrs in this game and didnt even know there was a prison.
I wonder, when a person goes to prison in NC, are they stripped off their cyberware? Or like get a blocker installed in them or something, because I doubt they would let the inmates keep those haha
What about this part is just to let prisoners see sunlight but the big part of the prison is underground :)
i remember first time i got there, there were some gang members, and as i shot em down police on the other side of fence aggro'd on me, so i had to shoot them down too with my magnetic pistol, but i was absolutely surprized you cant go inside, as the door remains shut and all those ncpd members and droids keep shooting you from the other side of fence man, that was awful
Also, exploring the city on my 900th hour 😂. Still feel like sooo much was left out. Entire city could be 5 cyberpunk games.
Panopticon! The round prison.
Ah yes it felt like only yesterday I learnt about it in sociology
its one of the ones that stick, a certain level of dystopian utility thats just *chefs kiss*@@SirMZK
if anything there should be ncpd type gigs that if u get caught can cause the police to be on you or chase u