The Petrochem Dam We Never Really Got | Cyberpunk 2077

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  • @peterjohnson9438
    @peterjohnson9438 11 месяцев назад +149

    Dumping out the lake in order to explore the village you dive down to with Judy would have been a great and rather natural bit of story.

    • @Zoffre
      @Zoffre 11 месяцев назад +14

      yeah, when I saw the "pillars" and each has a some way to reach them, so some good-placed explosive will do some thing, like a destroy how you describe

    • @tigrispanthera5496
      @tigrispanthera5496 11 месяцев назад

      what??

    • @PeterDarkmoor
      @PeterDarkmoor 11 месяцев назад +19

      Natural? Where is all that water going to go exactly? I'll tell you look at the map, half of the captains 'hood will be flooded/wiped. I don't think he'd take kindly to that not to mention all the gigs, encounters that would also remove. All so you can 'walk' down the single street you swim down with Judy? Seems like a lot of overkill for very little reward.

    • @No-vq1iv
      @No-vq1iv 11 месяцев назад +4

      Please, one water level is bad enough.

    • @rodarollada
      @rodarollada 11 месяцев назад

      Dying Light 2 Stay Human.

  • @Buksonn
    @Buksonn 11 месяцев назад +39

    The fast travel point could be there because of one race ending in that spot.

    • @Drew.DrivesYT
      @Drew.DrivesYT 10 месяцев назад +3

      that's the most likely reason tbh

  • @LIONGOD
    @LIONGOD 11 месяцев назад +24

    if this WAS a planned part of the game... it got scrapped early on and was just part of making a believable world... so players arent asking where the hell night city gets its power... and even if they add something as simple as a boring ass dam, people will still come up with weird ass theorys like that everything ever in the game somehow NEEDS to be playable and have a reason for the player to visit them... like, nah... thats just asking to over work the game devs. i mean sure it would be nice to be able to walk around every building and enter every room but once you start making games and think about it from the perspective of people who have to make that possible... suddenly it seems impossible

    • @MaseraSteve
      @MaseraSteve 7 месяцев назад

      This point may valid only for the building interior. We can understand that may waste in development time. But this statement of yours in wrong video. Because this game has a lot of place in the game of an OUTDOOR area that were already FULLY modeled and RENDERED like this but blocked by an invinsible wall.. This open world format went popular because of people randomly strolling places out in the world to see some easter egg or pure "sight seeing adventure" which is the point of an open world game went popular.
      And this Cyberpunk got no excuse because it Wasted a lot of open space by restricting user to stroll. You have to remember, all of this shown place of the dam were fully rendered in high poly "for distance view" seriously.. for godsake!
      Damn place wasted Gigs of memory size!

    • @MaseraSteve
      @MaseraSteve 7 месяцев назад

      *clarification of no excuse in term of no reason other than being rushed and not properly polished. Which the point of this guy posting this video which I get that also. We don't demand what's don't exist, we say what existed but it's half baked after being rushed by execs. Now do you get the reason of why this video being made?

  • @eftalanquest
    @eftalanquest 11 месяцев назад +38

    i would think there was once a mission planned to open the overflow gates to partially empty out the laguna bend lake to get to something

  • @TheCrimsonLupus
    @TheCrimsonLupus 11 месяцев назад +12

    I imagine there was a small team of devs working on building this area, perfectly placing and testing every item of that rubbish tip for a month... then someone says, "nah, we'll cut that" :D

  • @PeterDarkmoor
    @PeterDarkmoor 11 месяцев назад +65

    You really confuse general game dev with 'cut content'. There are basically 2 teams, the artists and map builders building out the map/look of the world and the writers, game designers working with the artists to accommodate their needs. Now sometimes however the world building team will make things just to flesh out the world with no real use by the writers. Now this could be as simple as hey we had a idea for this area but it got axed, or we don't have any real plans for this area, maybe in a expansion so for now just flesh it out to look good as eye candy. Now I am sure SOME of this falls into the former but some the latter. And when I say 'cut content' it could have been ideas that never made it off the design table. They tell the artists her in this area build a dam or a prison we think we may put something there. Then plans change and they still keep it but make it eye candy as why waste the work building the skeleton of the map if it's not going to conflict with anything else. When RUclipsrs say 'cut content' it seems implied content that got pretty far down the pipe then axed then people cry about wanting it not realizing it barely got off the drawing board in production before stopped. Many times it's ideas that didn't get far and while technically it's "cut content" it misleading to say such without context.
    2 great examples of this is the metro and this dam.
    Metro clearly with some of the stations fleshed out as you showed in other videos it was "cut content" got pretty far along but then time limits by upper mgt got the best of them and they axe it. half way through dev.
    The other is this dam. While they may had some ideas for it early on, if they did it was 'cut' soon after and the artists needs to have SOMETHING here that linked into Judy's story so they just filled it with eye candy. As nothing is remotely built out to any degree unlike the metro.
    Hope this clarifies.

    • @klamin_original
      @klamin_original 11 месяцев назад +7

      For the player it doesn’t make a difference though. It feels like there could have been so much more and the things they left in the game without proceeding to develop on that feature or area makes it feel like cut content.
      It’s content we will never get, that’s the outcome.

    • @PeterDarkmoor
      @PeterDarkmoor 11 месяцев назад +20

      @@klamin_original Well it should, context matters. Also it's unrealistic to expect every corner of the map to have content. There are big empty swaths on the maps of FO4 and Witcher 3. You also going to complain about that too?

    • @klamin_original
      @klamin_original 11 месяцев назад +4

      @@PeterDarkmoor I think you didn’t get my point.
      Empty land is ok, then there’s nothing there and we don’t get the feeling they had an idea for that area but stopped in the middle of developing the area.
      Buildings, items or NPCs that have been left in the game from an earlier part of development are the issue, they hint that there was some development of XYZ at one point but they stopped pursuing the idea that was clearly there.
      And that is what disappoints players.
      An empty patch of land would be better than let’s say the leftovers of these tunnels in cyberpunk, or the casino, the oil fields etc

    • @PeterDarkmoor
      @PeterDarkmoor 11 месяцев назад +14

      @@klamin_original And you are missing the point "cut content" happens ALL THE TIME, DURING ALL PHASES of development TO EVERY GAME. Just because they had a idea 6 months into full development, made a couple assets then decided it wasn't needed doesn't mean they are obligated to finish it and put it in. That's a very selfish and uneducated viewpoint to take. There are MANY variables why it was stopped or barely got off the ground. scale was too big will take away from other aspects of the game, repetition of another area or quest, time, deciding what they had planned wasn't as interesting or fun as they thought the more they built it out, etc. Just because they started something at some point doesn't mean you or anyone else is entitled to have them finish it. It's THEIR vision of the game, not yours.
      If you people who stop whining about 'should have, could have, would haves', and enjoy what's in there now you'd probably be a lot happier. But that's just me.

    • @Larisiahott
      @Larisiahott 11 месяцев назад +8

      Agreed. He sees a roach and thinks its backstory was cut lmao

  • @waralo191
    @waralo191 11 месяцев назад +8

    I think the fast travel point is to access the street race starting on it

    • @DT_Liox
      @DT_Liox 9 месяцев назад +3

      Yea , from some of his videos I wonder if he's actually done a complete playthrough.

  • @LexieAssassin
    @LexieAssassin 11 месяцев назад +3

    Something that would be interesting to me in the next Cyberpunk would be to explain away all this cut content (which the sequel would restore) would be to claim our experiences as V in CP 2077 are similar to the Johnny Silverhand flashbacks. Corrupted/Altered memories and the cut content is just places V never went to.

  • @thundereagle4130
    @thundereagle4130 11 месяцев назад +18

    What always baffled me with this dam is basically completely dysfuctional. There is a basin where Laguna bend used to be, which assumingly some kind of river ends in the area. But there is no way for the water to continue after the the dams to Coronado Bay. If it would, most of Santo Domingo wouldn't even exist. And even if we assumed NC planned for Santo Domingo to become riverbed and all housing is illegal, it still doesn't make sense mapping wise.
    It's like CDPR build this huge area with big plans. But later discovered there is no way for the water to end up in Coronado Bay, so they kinda left it like that and just say it was a unfinished Corp plan.

  • @rezonxthepiggert9647
    @rezonxthepiggert9647 11 месяцев назад +15

    That lake scares the hell out of me when diving deep within it lol.

    • @hemtin6764
      @hemtin6764 11 месяцев назад +1

      Fr I was expecting some pollution lake monster swimming in it.

    • @Judy_M0x
      @Judy_M0x 11 месяцев назад

      It looks mysterious, knowing that there is a sunken city

    • @Drew.DrivesYT
      @Drew.DrivesYT 10 месяцев назад

      that mission gave me some serious anxiety. cdpr nailed it.

  • @Green_3111
    @Green_3111 10 месяцев назад +1

    Not everything is cut content, and the playable area has to end somewhere. I appreciate that they've added set dressing beyond that barrier, it says to me that this world is it's own thing and I just exist in it. Unlike other games where the whole world is an island in the middle of nothing else, or the whole world revolves around my character.

  • @mrmurdock6994
    @mrmurdock6994 8 месяцев назад +4

    you are looking to the map background. the buildings need to look realistic because our computers can render this far but it doesn't mean it should have content. good if it does but then they have to make even more background map.

  • @Tylergube616
    @Tylergube616 11 месяцев назад +5

    I was noclipping around the the same area last night. Then I was like "Meh I'll wait till SirMZK to cover it."

  • @alexandrefraysse7284
    @alexandrefraysse7284 11 месяцев назад +1

    there are two missions taking place in the scrap pile outside the dam (the part you between 1:38 and 1:45) so that area is used in the game

  • @Yusuke_Denton
    @Yusuke_Denton 11 месяцев назад +8

    I remember seeing the "Turn back, nothing' out there for ya" message when I tried exploring to the edge of the world the first time, and was really disappointed that there was never any reason to go there later. By the way didn't the message used to say "Turn back, nothing' out there for you... just yet"???

    • @g.e131
      @g.e131 11 месяцев назад +2

      It did. I remember the "just yet" bit (or however it was worded) very distinctively. Cause I remember being VERY hopeful that something would be added to the world eventually.. 😕

    • @mikeoxlong403
      @mikeoxlong403 11 месяцев назад +1

      You are correct

    • @AdamOwenBrowning
      @AdamOwenBrowning 11 месяцев назад +1

      Yes, before Phantom Liberty dropped. In my mind it's because they were going to create two DLCs, not just one.

    • @r1pbuck
      @r1pbuck 8 месяцев назад +1

      It crosses my mind that one possibility for the forthcoming Orion sequel is that Night City will be expanded into many of the currently empty areas. Many things are possible...we don't even know if the sequel will be set in Night City...but it would make sense, IMO.

  • @jandraelune1
    @jandraelune1 11 месяцев назад +6

    6:00 That building would be where the power transformers would be located, converting and stabilizing the power from the running turbines in the dam. But seeing as that you drain water into that huge pile of trash to the next dam which it too should be discharging right into the city proper.
    This whole dam thing when you actualy look at it is just broken. You can look at the real world location for Night City which is Monterey Bay, CA. The dams are sitting on the Salinas River about where the town Blanco is sitting. Heywood, City Center and half of Watson are sitting off the coast on built up land. Pacifica is a bit northeast of where it is in RL.

    • @Zoffre
      @Zoffre 11 месяцев назад +4

      isn't a NC modeled after Morro Rock, CA?

    • @moonprincess_xoxo
      @moonprincess_xoxo 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@Zoffre yup

    • @CzornyLisek
      @CzornyLisek 5 месяцев назад

      It's not that weird as You might thing, look for example at Tama and Sayama dams in Tokyo. If they ever get broken a rather large part of the city will get destroyed and there are no rivers or anything like that below them.
      In general Tokyo has rather high numbers of dams and pump reservoirs, many invisible as they are made on top/inside hills.

  • @No-vq1iv
    @No-vq1iv 11 месяцев назад +6

    The trash piles aren't procedurally generated, they just placed the same repeated asset over and over. You actually showed it in the last video, it's the square of trash that appears under the map.
    Anyway, is the dam part of the Aldecaldos ending?

  • @zORg_alex
    @zORg_alex Месяц назад

    I think this area received right amount of work looking on how time we spend there. The dam itself could be used. It was well modeled and well built. That roughly modelled building you showed was supposed to be seen from afar only, so it got just enough attention. This place actually is a good example of mapmakers brilliant work. IMO

  • @Jimmer93
    @Jimmer93 11 месяцев назад +4

    I believe in concept art that tunnel the other side of the dam looped around and came back out near the trash heap or something.
    Edit: It was actually on the map that came with collectors edition I think, shows the roads loops round and coming back out the other side of the other dam

  • @rewmangeorge5957
    @rewmangeorge5957 7 месяцев назад

    Small detail about the landfill area or the place where you woke up. I remember it because one of your out of bounds videos shows a weird junk filled mini area under the map. Where Dex's body is isnt where you come out of the ground, its in fact a bit left and above the dead end. There is a more flat(er) area above you can easily climb. There is a blood pudle and shallow mud hole, like it started to fill up aleady. And the open space in front of it does checks out with the cutscene. So i would guess the game spawns you in that special cube and then teleports you to that spot, while the area you later visit for Bartmoss's decik and Dexgun is fake. Just a detail i found out of curiosity, because: "Why is the pile looking traversible to on the left side, lets check it out" impulse

  • @danieladler3210
    @danieladler3210 11 месяцев назад +23

    I like these series. Would you be able to do it with other games as well? There is something interesting about going out of bound and seeing behind the scenes and how developers manage resources and create the illusions. It's exciting seeing things we're not supposed to see :) I wouldn't mind getting more technical information as well, since I dont know much about the game design.

  • @crypticrunner1200
    @crypticrunner1200 11 месяцев назад +5

    i think it could've been for a mission similar to GTA SA/Ocean's Eleven where you get to the dam to cut off NC's power source or something like that. would've been cool

    • @Zoffre
      @Zoffre 11 месяцев назад +3

      NC's power source is that fancy solar arrays which V and Panam visit during Q. She say about some power laser is send from space and that solar array is collecting that "power" Maybe its different, I don't play CP77 in a while

    • @Yusuke_Denton
      @Yusuke_Denton 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@ZoffreYou're right. Could be they were originally going to have that mission at the dam but later changed city's power source to the solar array.

    • @KLENA3333-zl4vb
      @KLENA3333-zl4vb 11 месяцев назад +1

      Microvawe Receiver Dish - name the technology. Ray shoot in the satellite, with orbit.

  • @mathieuthomas7744
    @mathieuthomas7744 11 месяцев назад +1

    You can actually go down by that dami drove my car down there...I managed to go along the rubbish pile on the right side along the cliff edge and managed to avoid the death zone and managed to climb up to that payable area that's empty with that gate...

  • @pen8376
    @pen8376 9 месяцев назад

    I think the original plan had one of the endings where you could choose whether or not to destroy part of the city by blowing up the dam.
    Also one of the chosen endings would have resurfaced the dusty villages and stories.

  • @mattyb584
    @mattyb584 4 месяца назад

    I personally find it pretty humerous that the worst ghetto in town is placed right in the path of the dam. Like if they ever opened the gates that whole section of the city would be wiped out

  • @jestermask6460
    @jestermask6460 10 месяцев назад

    It gives a lot of room for future DLCs (hopefully). The details are there...

  • @DARKOO92
    @DARKOO92 11 месяцев назад

    I just found another strange room in Cyberpunk. In the buidling where you have to kill Gustavo Orta for Padre (near the corpo plaza), there is a little floating room with no access to it (use no clip). There is a women in a medical arasaka bed. You can strangle her from behind and then let her free herself, she'll not attack you
    Very strange...

  • @rickoftherick4610
    @rickoftherick4610 11 месяцев назад +1

    You can get down to that area without cheats but halfway into the middle you run into invisible walls and instant death zones but still, it's reachable just not a lot to see or do down there.

  • @SetsunaKeys
    @SetsunaKeys 10 месяцев назад +1

    i bet there will be a group of modders that will makes a lot of these areas playable

  • @kazik2000
    @kazik2000 11 месяцев назад +1

    I started a brand new playthrough recently and yesterday after 72 hours of my playthrough I was driving to pyramid song, came across this area and thought SirMZK should do a video about this. He read my mind 👌

  • @Noeland
    @Noeland 11 месяцев назад +2

    So what percentage of the whole map is actually used for gameplay? We talking like 25%, or like 75%? I tried like mad to explore the dam area when I was early in my game play on stadia, a few years back. The race that starts there, and the dive with Judy doesn't seem like enough reason to have this much unplayable area. I thought it was a missed opportunity to include Judy in other missions that might have to do with the dam, Petrochem, and the flooded town. It's a compelling location that certainly could have been used for some interesting stuff.

  • @JuergenGDB
    @JuergenGDB 11 месяцев назад

    I believe there was to be either an NCPD scanner mission or a dead body you would find from exploring with Lore attached. There is a petition to the Night City Council to clean up the Dam area from ecologists and activists. There should be another neighborhood near where Judy's place is, and the other side of the dam... very poor much like the 6th Street housing area. The Dam does provide power to the City.

    • @JuergenGDB
      @JuergenGDB 11 месяцев назад

      Again there was a lot of unfinished work due to the team having to make the game ready for the console systems as well.

  • @alextimmins8426
    @alextimmins8426 8 дней назад

    Imagine an ending where you disable Night Cities Power and then flood it using the Dam. Would be Crazy

  • @charlottegerken4477
    @charlottegerken4477 11 месяцев назад

    I always thought the inside of the dam was underutilized as well, def been down there playing around with the Kusanagi and Comrades Hammer duo, but it sucks that you can't go all the way to the dump from there. I mean, not there is alot out there, but it would be cool to be able to truly free roam at least the full interior of the map.

  • @CaptDust
    @CaptDust 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the dam tour, anyone know where can I get some dam bait?

  • @jmichael1holmes
    @jmichael1holmes 11 месяцев назад

    @ 1:36 i always wondered is that one of those massive cargo ship drones? Has it fallen out of the sky??? That’s terrifying bro😭

    • @Yusuke_Denton
      @Yusuke_Denton 11 месяцев назад

      It is. In the lore raiders/nomads shoot those down all the time. Could also have just been junked there.

  • @begineer85
    @begineer85 11 месяцев назад

    i think there are reasons why there is so meany unused parts, first (sry but my english is bad :P) the game outgrown devs, try to imagine how many qusts they would need to made to cover such a big terrain, second it could kill game immersion, I mean by main story uv got only few weeks to solve problem with relic, and then u get so many places and so many activitis that u need not weeks but months to finish them, it would absolutely kill that feeling that u dont have time cuz ur dying. For me game got real potential to have some kind "time mechanic" when uv got lets say 30 in game days to end main quest and u need to chose witch quest u want finish and witch u need leave cuz u wont have time for them like u need choose to help aldecaldos or try to cooperate with Rouge (if u satrt with aldecaldos u wont have time to finish Rouge quests), and then after finish main line u can go back without timer and finish all other activitis with fixers etc. but still u need to do some side quest to have enaugh money for equipment and expirience for lvl up ur char.

  • @Saviliana
    @Saviliana 11 месяцев назад

    I suspect that it would be possible an area built for artistic demo cutscene.

  • @Buksonn
    @Buksonn 11 месяцев назад

    By the way is there a way you could show us the underwater city in Judy's storyline but without water? 😅

  • @GenriTech
    @GenriTech 2 месяца назад

    NightCity - city of decorations

  • @jbdds2010
    @jbdds2010 11 месяцев назад +1

    Have you done a video on the inside of the city hall building ?

    • @SirMZK
      @SirMZK  11 месяцев назад

      Not yet but to be honest, there's not a lot to look at which isn't already useable.

    • @jbdds2010
      @jbdds2010 11 месяцев назад

      @@SirMZK can you actually go in the city hall building normally ? I found it by clipping into the building I didn’t realize you could actually get in there any other way

    • @Yusuke_Denton
      @Yusuke_Denton 11 месяцев назад

      @@jbdds2010 There's not a normal way in but I think that's where one of River's braindances takes place?

  • @npz1838
    @npz1838 11 месяцев назад

    Pretty ironic how a game that is seemingly all about corps didn't give us any chance to side with them as factions and have entire questlines. I would have had that as a base if I were the developer and then branched out from there into the other various gigs and side quests. Seems like they did things in reverse order and instead went with other things and then seemingly ran out of time to do corps 😂

  • @redmilk2861
    @redmilk2861 7 месяцев назад

    Its insane how much theg scraped out of the game. The Life paths are probably the biggest, they were supposed to be 3 separate main stories that link together. The game now is probably a qauter of the size they wanted to make, but could not die to time restrictions.

  • @themanyverse8072
    @themanyverse8072 Месяц назад

    is it possible for modders to add content to these areas, or open access to them?

    • @SirMZK
      @SirMZK  Месяц назад

      Yes but it’s not easy

  • @Spanners_the_Monkey
    @Spanners_the_Monkey 11 месяцев назад

    Hiya, I'm on console and you can wonder around most of this area, I searched most of it looking for laptops and shards

  • @liaminwales
    @liaminwales 11 месяцев назад +1

    I hope we get mods to use features you show off.

  • @jamesc3093
    @jamesc3093 11 месяцев назад

    Keep it up! Love these videos!❤

  • @kazik2000
    @kazik2000 11 месяцев назад

    Noticed you open the Freefly menu to change speed, the scroll wheel works on the mouse too!

  • @kerotomas1
    @kerotomas1 10 месяцев назад

    The amount of cut and unfinished content in this game is astonishing.

  • @TopHatPenguin
    @TopHatPenguin 11 месяцев назад

    that fast travel point exists because of the race you do

  • @Jester4460
    @Jester4460 11 месяцев назад

    I also think the oil area is too undercooked
    Though obviously not as much

  • @i3deal
    @i3deal 11 месяцев назад

    Have you every seen a techie house. That junk yard is a techie paradise. I have some hugh structures being built in the junkyard. I can show you on discord. Also I believe the dam to be opened up at some point..

  • @jonatanromanowski9519
    @jonatanromanowski9519 11 месяцев назад

    Awesome

  • @AlmostGrewMyHair
    @AlmostGrewMyHair 11 месяцев назад

    Hope the map designers are watching these videos. I know I would if I made the game. Hilarious.

  • @hemtin6764
    @hemtin6764 11 месяцев назад

    But they would have a huge city sized trash mountain 😅 the city is over flowing with trash

  • @shirtdirt1874
    @shirtdirt1874 5 месяцев назад +2

    this red engine is just garbage, they wasted too much dev time on the bare bone tech instead of the story and game. hopefully going with unreal will let them pump out more game content and let epic deal with the underlying tech issues.

  • @pembertonmcdonough
    @pembertonmcdonough 11 месяцев назад

    Ok time for my schizopost 1:02
    This biiiiiiig ass area with NOTHING I believe was supposed to be the original spot for Dex to dump Vs body. There’s a ladder that goes down into that big area, so maybe V was supposed to reboot, try to carry themselves to the ladder where maybe they pass out and run into Takemura and Dex or maybe V was able to escape another way.
    (Edit: Grammar)

  • @flyingskull
    @flyingskull 11 месяцев назад

    Check this under the map:
    Saved current position: X = -2280.0219726563 Y = -638.54302978516 Z = -103.3666229248 Yaw = 50.641765594482