Hot or Not: Steven Koonin Questions Conventional Climate Science and Methodology| Uncommon Knowledge
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2023
- Recorded on August 15, 2023.
Steven Koonin is one of America's most distinguished scientists, with decades of experience, including a stint as undersecretary of science at the Department of Energy in the Obama administration. In this wide-ranging discussion, based in part on his 2021 book, Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What It Doesn't, and Why It Matters, Koonin gives a more refined look at the science behind the climate issue than the media typically offers, guiding us through the evidence and its implications. As Koonin explains in this interview, he was “shaken by the realization that climate science was far less mature than I had supposed” and that the “overwhelming evidence” of catastrophic implications of anthropogenic global warming wasn’t so overwhelming after all.
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The problem is that no one except those with an open mind will read his book. Those who only follow a narrative will never read it.
Idk. I think it’s getting through.
I've been saying FOREVER that the earth is changing -- because of course it is! Simply because a body in motion stays in motion. And I have always asserted that with or without humans on this earth, the climate would change regardless! Looks like I'm not wrong --- so as I've told my Liberal friends this theory, they've recoiled in horror, as if dealing with a heretic. SIGH.... PLEASE!! Hmmm... seems that common sense isn't so common after all.
Listening to the audiobook now.
I used to send my sister videos like this and now she will hardly talk to me because I tried to "force my politics on her".
Would you read a book about flat earth? The stuff this guy is spewing is just as absurd.
This is a great discussion. Underscores the problem with the modern tendency toward reductive thinking and calling it science when, in fact, it is really politics.
Thank you for arranging this conversation with Dr. Koonin. In 2008, I completed a Ph.D. study in England titled. "The Political Structuring of the IPCC 4th Assessment Report" It came to the same conclusions, except it went deeper on the development of climate science as science knowledge shaped by governments and corporations for political interests. This has been going on with science since the 1940s, as the recent film "Oppenheimer" reveals. Now, thanks to Koonin and other authoritative voices, climate scientist are beginning to rediscover their scientific creed and speak up about how their science is being corrupted and abused.
I particularly applaud the last part of this discussion about adaptation and fear. As President Roosevelt said 90 years ago, we have ":nothing to fear but fear itself." What we need to do is to think clearly and factually, with reference to what climate science is actually telling us, and learn to use critical thinking to understand that science is a process of discovery, not conclusions.
Young people on RUclips, peace. You are safer than all previous generations.
I was born during World War 2, it ended and my parents had 7 more children who all grew up.
I was your age and terrified by the Cold War, expecting not to wake up every night we went to sleep thinking the Russians would start a nuclear war, I grew up, had 6 children who all grew up and I spent 55 years being a doctor. You and I are the children of survivors who were the children of survivors back to the Stone Age. Courage. Live life without fear. Lift one another up. Plan for your own families and beautiful children.
Agreed on the front of environment & climate change and that we don't have much to fear, but I fear other things that have been affecting our lives such as chemicals around us that stress our bodies on a biological level to the extent that now men have been having issues with sperms not only quantity wise but also quality as well as women becoming infertile. I haven't even touched the effects of those to our cancer cells and food industry where gmo is heavily pushed almost everywhere (and mind you we are yet to see the effects of them in our future generations) while healthy products like raw milk have been demonized and weaponized by the hands of wicked politicians. Because we live in such "advanced" time we are forced to believe experts whose goal is not to serve humanity but to control it. So yes I do fear for our young people because what we see as good is in fact bad where good things are instrumentalized just like this whole climate change saga to fit a certain narrative. At least in the times of war you saw directly that life sucked and you had to literally survive but we live in the age where fights over people's minds occur and that can be far more dangerous because it takes away a capability to think independently from people.
What a wonderful and powerful statement to young people, this, is truth 🌸
OK boomer.
Bravo, sir. Well said.
"You're saying things that are going to get you into trouble." Truth tends to do that...
I rarely comment, but this interview was just so exceptional. Steve Koonin is a man of integrity and truth. We need to spread the truth.
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With that integrity how come he calls out subsidies for solar and wind power, but not subsidies for the fossil fuel industry?
What truth do we need to spread?
Indeed. Spread truth. This guy said nothing. He's another Trucker's mother talker. Don't believe me? @54:26 the host admits it! It's like taking a mental and twisting you to listen to nothing said. If so, tell me, cause I listen real good as like music and still nothing is said. FAUX and pretty music don't make cake. Eat your's too! In your head.
Steve Koonin premises are based on faulty reasoning. For example: SK says Co2 rise can't be causing Greenland ice loss because co2 rise is linear and ice loss is chaotic. Frist, the graph of ice lost is inaccurate, yes there are "bumps" in the curve but not as chaotic as his graph. Second, ice melting is not dependent on CO2 and temperature alone. Rain increasing ice loss and the occurance of rain requires the a complex interaction of various air masses. Third: if CO2 is not cauing the melting of glaciers, permafrost, actric and antarctic, then what is, he does not say. 4) Heat is not the issue, CONTINUED heating is. This year it is hotter than the previous years, the next years will be hotter still. and food, human migration, tropical disease all will destabilize. If you don't like imigration into USA now, think what it will be in 10 and 20 years due to increased warming. And this is just a small picture of what awaits.
Very good question and answer session. I agree with Dr. Koonin that nuclear is a viable option and his opinion that it is such a bogeyman. Finally, I will emphatically agree with Dr. Koonin that we are being misled by the mainstream media.
Always looking forward to a new interview by Peter Robison no matter the guest or the subject of discussion. His ability to interview and ask questions is on another level
Folks, July 2023 may have been hot in USA but in UK it was the wettest for 50 years, recorded by farmers on their family farms ! July here in UK was also quite chilly, besides a few days . August 2023 has been really chilly. WE have only seen four or five warm days for the whole of August. All we seem to get is chilly rain and white sun . Nothing like August in UK , it's most often hot , for us and reasonably dry. It's been so wet and cold here that farmers have struggled to harvest crops and bale the hay and straw !
Please remember that in ancient Roman times in the UK, Romans grew grapes for wine, in south SCOTLAND . Try it now !
Wish more people would look into the whole climate change issue to get to the truth. This was a very good video and Steven Koonin had many valid points.
His latest book is marvelous and eye opening (and believable).
I agree, and granted the media is definitely biased in favor of catastrophizing. But have you actually researched the issue in depth or are you just skeptical so you accept the first credible person who aligns with the answer you are looking for, which is that none of this is a big deal and we can just wait 50 years and see what happens?
It’s easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they have been fooled. It’s unfortunate that you don’t care for people that don’t automatically believe the media and seek more information. A climate alarmist and a total denier are both dangerous because neither is willing to have their mind changed and are both willing to write laws that support their views and could possibly destroy your life
All the talk about C02 doesn't equal climat science, far from it. THEY should teach The Unitiated the basics :
Milankovitch cycles, Ice Ages, Solar cycles, Water Vapor is the 1st greenhouse gas ... over which we have no
influence at all, and only some about global CO2 ...and forget geo - engineering, it is a risky business.
... one another thing, google : (following the above) Climat is a Chaotic System
Love both of these gentlemen. Important figures in our times of distrust. I wish more people could hear conversations such as this one.
LO. But not for Bush + Iraq, right? The censorship of the Democrats was a good thing then, right? Stop pretending you're being responsible.
I suggest you first learn the fallacies and biases. Then listen to these "important figures" to realize just how much they are lying to you.
I've got a degree in Environmental Science I've been of a similar opinion as Steven for years. People with no experince in science look at me like I'm a full on tin hat conspiricy theorist when I question the political orthodoxy!
The problem is that the political left has adopted climate hysteria as a pseudo-religion. It’s really hard to change someone’s mind with facts when they’ve already decided to go all-in on a dogma based on theories, fear, and social pressure.
I know... I have five years of environmental studies at uni and two years of political science. Can't even get a job. Don't have the "right" opinions.
My guess mostly women.
You are not alone my friend. I hear you.
10.6kw of energy per litre of diesel, 8.6kw per litre of petrol. Or gallons it's 40.12kw per gallon of diesel, for petrol it's 32.55kw per gallon, an average house in USA use of energy is 29kw, so a gallon of diesel and petrol both have more energy than what an average house in USA uses over 24 hours.
Could you explain why all that energy doesn't mean anything going into a system?
This subject always harkens me back to one of my favorite quotes: "There's nothing quite so passionate as a vested interest disguised as an intellectual conviction." There's _gold_ in them thar ills! And if you're a climate scientist living off of government grants you'll be at the head of the line at this feeding trough for your cut. Politicians? Media? Forget it. When's the last time you heard an honest politician or an honest media outlet? Like Mr. Koonin said, the media has an agenda built on three things: Eyeballs, ears, and clicks. "If it bleeds, it leads." And indeed I've heard nothing but climate hyperbole ad nauseum _every. single. day._ out of the journalistic media.
Politicians will do or say anything for votes and campaign donations, so that's a given. What I find unconscionable is that the scientific community, who are also doing the teaching at our universities, are giving their students a homogenized and self-serving interpretation of the data in order to ensure that only one line of thought is being absorbed and regurgitated -- and in so doing, they're scaring the living crap out of our youngest generation. Students would like to think they're independent thinkers, but they're really not if they're being sold only one narrative and the student isn't willing or doesn't know how to interpret the data themselves to come to their own conclusions.
As an avocational meteorologist and geologist, I see the data and I see the long view, and there is simply no reason to panic or to collapse economies or political systems in order to reverse long-term phenomena that _won't_ reverse until it's damn good and ready. We tend to see things through the prism of our own lives and not the billions of years it has taken for climate to reach an equilibrium to sustain life, or even the 10s of thousands of years between warm and cold climate cycles. I can only admonish people not to take what the media feeds them at face value, nor a politician, because both are going to serve their interests first before they serve anyone else's.
Listened to the audiobook version of his book. As a geophysicist, in retirement I have listened to many recent audiobooks on Earth history as well as the carbon cycle (Symphony in C by Robert Hazen bing one example). And I recall from my days in graduate school running geohydrology finite elements models and how small changes in recharge area element parameters can make a big difference in results. So I embrace all that Dr. Koonin says. I think his last comments about immorality of the climate hysteria narrative are most important.
0:30 Steven Koonin's physics background and entering climate science
2:30 John Kerrey's alarmist statements and IPCC reports
5:13 Climate uncertainty and historical global warming
9:15 The IPCC and the game of "telephone" / extreme temperatures
14:07 Computer models and their problems predicting climate changes
17:10 Computer models and increasing computer power
21:57 "Steve Koonin versus the headlines"
26:40 Forest fires and July heat
36:53 Adapting to climate change and human flourishing
40:10 $360 billion Inflation Reduction Act
41:30 R&D nuclear power, solar power and wind power
45:35 Climate scientists not telling the truth and the 6 billion poor
48:18 How have colleagues reacted to "Uncertainty"?
50:35 Climate alarmism and children / the end of alarmism
Thanks so much for the index. I wish the video creators did this.
@yamishogun6501 Thanks for taking the trouble to do this. Very useful for us all.
A funny story unrelated to climate change.
When Dr Steve Koonin was younger, he taught a 2nd year college level complex variable calculus. He is a pretty smart guy (allegedly, he could invert 4x4 matrix in his head), so his class was pretty challenging, which made many students lose sleep.
Back then, he had uncanny resemblance to the actor Rick Moranis. So we used to joke that when Dr Koonin goes home, he tells his wife 'Honey, I flunk the kids!' (Reference to the movie 'Honey, I shrank the kids!')
Surely, you’re joking….
Half way through a degree in environmental studies conservation and ecology, I flipped to this position. Academics are infected by left-wing politics, and I believe this to be the driver through control concepts.
You guys are spot on.
Have you ever challenged your tutors on their left-wing bias and climate alarmism? I’m sure you could do it carefully, in a non-confrontational manner, so as not to affect your grades.
Gosh golly -- Koonin wrote an article for The Wall Street Journal titled “Climate Science Is Not Settled.” back in 2014...
And?
I watched Al Gore's movie back in the day so I decided to investigate the issue and over the years I've come to similar conclusions -- and I'm no expert so I didn't write a book. :)
Yeah, well, Koonin is no expert either.
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@@RJones-Indyyou again? Please stop with the agenda. You've been brainwashed to fear a climate catastrophe that is not coming. Remove the shackles from your mind. You've been a slave to propaganda.
In Queensland we had the millennium drought, went for ten years. The sate gov spent billions on desal and a water network etc. the year after it was finished it flooded. Dams were filled and it kept raining. Most of the investment was mothballed until the next ten year drought.
Very informative. I think one important aspect to mention is that the demonization of CO2 is useful for several political purposes. The CO2 tax is massive, in fact the biggest one since around 200 years. CO2 can be politically utilized for divide & conquer tactics as well. "They are evil because they drive a combustion engine." Just to give the two most prominent examples. It's also a way to infringe on the freedom of middle class and lower people, since you can use CO2 to justify all sorts of regulations that make normal things (electricity) into luxuries. This is turn helped big investors to buy off many small family businesses. So there is an economic agenda as well.
Ultimately it does not matter what the reality about CO2 and human influence is, because it is right now useful for the ruling class to accumulate more wealth and power for themselves.
I love Peter Robinson. An American treasure.
And, speaking as a Brit, of the wider Anglosphere.
Well done more please
Yes. But sometimes, his windup preceding the actual question is way too long. Like one of those very long Starbucks orders. You lost me in the middle………..
Always humble. Always curious about the TRUTH of the matter. (Greetings from Sweden.)
@@jamesdellaneve9005 Stop the video, wind it back, listen harder, take notes - learning is an action, not an IV drip or a massage.
I'm disappointed that Dr. Koonin didn't talk about another core problem with solar, namely the extremely low energy density. It's a real problem when you can only get a couple hundred watts per square meter. A typical coal power plant may be 1GW. You would only need 5 million square meters of solar panels to be equivalent to one small typical coal fired plant. Does anyone else here see the logistical problem with that?
Outstanding. I have been trying to tell people this for years and have no chance, if someone as gifted as this is being ignored
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I am more a climate change solution denier. The solutions are evil. Really, if we do nothing, population collapse will solve everything in 100 years,
Exactly. It’s impossible for the normal, harried human to try and figure this out, hence equally impossible to try and convince another human being on this issue (or any other really.)
That, I guess, is the sad part -- compared to the dominant media, _Uncommon Knowledge_ has a footprint analogous to a sparrow farting in a forest. _The Glenn Show_ suffers from the same affliction, and the irony is that all of these folks are members of the same academy that is contributing to the skewed narrative being promoted. Takes a lot of work to be discerning, and that includes proactively seeking out books and programs like this one that challenge the prevailing orthodoxy.
To comprehend this we must study belief systems. Each person has his own included the ignorent in scientific matters/methods. I wish you good luck
"The statement was completely factual, but factually incomplete." Love it
“The whole aim of practical politics, is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary” - HL Mencken
Wildfires in France last year were largely a function of poor forest management. Monospecies planting of conifers - no deciduous firebreaks - high planting density - poor or non-existent clearance of bracken and pine needles. Tinderbox waiting to burst into flames.
lightning strikes caused forest fires well before humans were on the scene
so lightning strike causes a forest fire and the fire would burn until it comes to its natural conclusion. but invariably it would have taken one big forest and broke it into two forests with a large fire break in between. Then going forward a lightning strike in either half would not be able to burn down all of it.
In the United States we decided to aggressively fight forest fires. Which means that lightning could start a fire but we'd and get that fire put out well before it had a chance to create a fire break.
Thankfully at the same time we practiced a forestry technique called clear-cutting. Which is basically when a bunch of lumberjacks decide "F that whole area". When we were done it looked like a war zone. Naturalists of course don't like this cuz it's ugly. Eventually someone listened to these idiots and we stopped clear-cutting. Did we stop fighting forest fires ... no of course not, we kept on fighting forest fires we just didn't clear cut anymore.
Fast forward after 30 years of this policy and Forest growth.... we're now starting to pay for that stupid decision.
the governor of California made fun of Trump when he said California just needed to learn how to sweep up it's forests to avoid fires... and they belittled him for the statement. When technically clearing out all of the Dead fuel on the ground and clear-cutting a little bit would have actually prevented many of the fires that California experiences.
the most frustrating thing I have with environmentalist is they act like the Earth doesn't have some pretty horrific things that happen as part of the natural process that are actually good.
We fight forest fires.
When we clear-cut we become the fire
& all remains good in the World
I agree that this is the most deciding factor and we absolutely should to do better on wildfire prevention by better managing the forests.
I hated the interview though. Koonin is too biased, he is most definitely in it for the money. Which is what he accuses the climate scientists for, typical...
Good point on the monospecies. I live in BC Canada and I was walking through a protected forest yesterday and I was amazed how big the maple and Arbutus trees were right along the Douglas firs and Cedars. Very diverse
We are now seeing this playing out in Hawaii, as it played out in NSW Australia a few years ago and now appears to be playing out in the Greek wild fires. All these things could have been managed had actual adults been in charge more focussed on the job at hand and less worried about pronouns.
Same in Canada, on both coasts.
Thank you for spreading common sense and real science to the rest of us 🙏🏻
This is an amazing interview. Peter Robinson, I want you to know that Steven Koonin is a fantastic guest and we are going to add this Hoover Institution video to our Relevant Science References playlist.
Great interview. I really appreciate the fact that SK took the time to RTFM (IPCC Report) and not just the summary like 99% of people spouting opinions have done.
None of the people pushing the narrative are selling off their beachfront properties. That should tell you all you need to know about the situation….
Living in Toronto and having visited Lisbon this summer I can whole hearteldy say that both cities had really cool summers compared to what can be remembered from previous summers.
It is important to note that Koonin is not a climate denier. He believes that climate change is real and that it is caused by human activities. However, he believes that the science is not as settled as many people believe, and that we need to be more cautious about making predictions about future climate change.
Better safe than sorry when the government is the one saying "better safe"? You'll be sorry lol
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But a "denier" in the climatist sense is every heretic who does not follow the catastrophic dogma that humans are destroying the planet and hence should be eliminated.
Well guess what the takeaway of climate deniers is from this? He’s already being used, in these very comments to argue we shouldn’t lift a finger.
Considering we’re doing nothing about it, not sure if caution is what we need to preach. Writing this from Europe, which is becoming unbearably hotter summer by summer..
He said he believes it may have a small effect alongside the many other natural anomalies for the planet. Like he mentioned natural spikes and volcano irruptions, etc. How do you stop the natural anomalies then? As they are the biggest factor in all this. We've only been measuring temperatures for the last 100yrs. So what are you comparing too. We may well just have an ice age again; you can't say that was caused by human activity. But, he still states the data doesn't support the theory that we are necessarily doing harm.
What I appreciate about this is the direct notion of what is moral when the question of a possible disaster is on the table. It's not moral to make use of low-resolution thinking to milk money out of the economy and drive hypothetically useful engagement. Specifically, it's because fear makes for poor decision making at every layer of analysis. In fact, it seems practically supernatural how directly fear can cause a person to make any situation they fear worse by attempting to control or eradicate it. I'm hopeful that down the road, the trend of treating biologically necessary gases that have been called 'greenhouse' (like water vapor!) as toxic won't end up with people deliberately ruining ecosystems in a misguided attempt to 'clean' them. As in the case of the campaign against beef. As if a ruminant is anything other than a net good for the climate and us.
C’mon man
Those less than 2 parts per billion are turning our planet into a blast furnace. 😊
Climate scientists do not call CO2 or H2O gases toxic" as you allege.
They should get a room 😆
This is pretty much the best interview about the gigantic topic of climate change I have seen so far. Both in content as well as the questioning. The truth shall prevail.
Thank God for a voice of reason in a sea of fear!
Thanks Dr. Koonin. Yes, there are many things we, as a society, have been misled on.
Thank you, gentlemen.
Las Vegas set a record for most days in a row below 100 degrees earlier this summer.
I'm so glad to see a new episode. A fantastic show with an ever more fantastic host.
Google adds “context,” label to this video that discredits Koonin. What a joke
They hope to reduce his reach... So this video is seen mostly by people who are skeptics, or by people who are here to debunk Koonin.
Thank you for a great guest!
I used to believe the climate change narrative, but over the years questions started to rise in my head. I’ve been told the environment was heading for a disaster since I was in grade school in the 80’s. That’s approaching half a century. I’ve spent a lot of my free time hiking and working outside…..I certainly can’t say I notice anything negative….that’s why I started listening to people like Koonin.
Same here. If anything, climate change in recent decades has been net positive.
I agree...the land behind my childhood house was like scrub grass.... it's like a jungle now....I almost can't walk to the small stream because of the vegetation @@stevenverrall4527
Luckily, I was in school in the 60s and 70s when global cooling was the concern. When it switched to warming I was automatically skeptical and remain so to this day. Not skeptical that some warming is occurring, but skeptical it is anthropogenic. And a recent paper on GCR, Galactic Cosmic Rays, shows that they correlate far better with earth’s temperature than do other factors such as CO2.
Tony Heller is better educated and more honest IMO.
@@LTVoyager Yes, finding the mechanisms behind the constant changing of climate for millions of years has unfolded in my lifetime - better and better understanding every decade of my 80+ years. Still learning.
I love this topic and this discussion!
Peter Robinson is a rare, true gem. Thank you sir!!!!
Roji
My frustration is that Universities are political institutions now so scientists within universities are fearful for their jobs and become cowards.
They alway forget about the southern hemisphere. What happens down here never gets talked about. We have had a La Nina going for the last year and it bought all the weather I normally expect. It's been happening about every 5 years my entire life. We get Cyclones down here and a warm summer in the northern hemisphere
What an exceptional interview!!
If scientists would refuse to allow the facts to be hidden, they would regain so much respect they have lost. When science was the purview of religious men, and it was long ago, it held itself to a standard of what could be proven and truth.
In the hands of those who have no belief in actual right and wrong, just an ideology, and used on people of the same mind, it becomes a hazard
There are undeveloped countries that deserve the chance to live healthier and more prosperously than they do because the elitists force them to be more green
Koonin says crop yields are rising. Crop yields rose because of advanced farming techniques and better hybrids. But farm productivity is actually 21% lower than it should be, according to Cornell University. That's because the warming that accompanies CO2 increases heatwaves, droughts, extreme precipitation events and wildfires. All of those decimate crops. Crop loss insurance payouts, in fact, have been skyrocketing in recent years because of these losses. The severity of heatwave and drought-related crop losses has tripled over the last five decades in Europe. (See the study in Environmental Research Letters, Jun 10, 2021. )
"WE" haven't had a hot summer! MSM keep quoting ground temperatures. MSM said 35 degrees in Lanzerote. It was 27 degrees. Advice to the young: stop listening to MSM and reading newspapers and investigate for yourself.
If someone raises a question or any kind of perceived challenge they are labeled “denier” and attacked. Doesn’t matter what the issue. We are living in anti science times. Science should welcome questions! Very good discussion. I will look for this book. Obviously the Atlantic is warmer than usual. But is that weather or climate. We will know over the next decades.
FAKE NEWS, PSEUDO-SCIENCE RULES, OK!
Science + Politics = Politics.
As far as most people are concerned, science might as well not exist.
About the warming of the Atlantic, have you heard about the effects of banning high-sulphur ship fuels in 2020? SO2 causes massive cloud seeding, meaning that every large ship was contributing to cloud cover over the oceans. Since 2020 those ‘ship trails’ have fallen off significantly.
Is it? Where did you get that information? And usual over what time scale?
Rules for Radicals rule number.. whatever.
Just the fact the overlords are flying around in private jets and buying/taking more ocean front real-estate tells me it's all BS.
If you have a lot if money you can afford to bullshit.
We actually live in a mild Climate Optimum, maybe climate cultists would like an ice Age??
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They want communism, they lie about everything else
When I was in Kindergarten, I was in a play…”Chicken Little”. I played the king and my line was “Don’t worry, Chicken Little. The sky is not falling.” 65 years later, I feel like I am in the audience watching that play over and over again…but there is no king in this play.
glaciers have been melting back for thousands of years. That said, much of the recent warming, and more importantly, the drying, is apparently due to to aircraft emissions. Odd, considering that modern high bypass jet engines, used in commercial and military jets, burn clean, and are, under most conditions, incapable of producing contrails. Somehow, however, they leave behind long lasting trails which spread and form clouds which apparently lead to higher night time temperatures and persistent droughts.
What a great interview and discussion. The media is the problem as was so clearly described. Covering Climate Now is at the root of this. Thank you for informing me about them.
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Why media should not be given ANY attention - - at all. Rush and fumble info trying to be first , stretch & exaggerate to draw attention for the sake of rating's.
And all biased who teach human beings in classrooms are also the problem, and those in government who follow a political path at the expense of the citizenry are also the problem. The EU 'dictates' over an entire continent now? If it were not so dangerous, it could have been laughable. We're not laughing any longer.
Peace to you.
So important to look at weather history. The 1930’s are still looked on as the hottest decade.
Globally?
Better to say - the measurements and records SHOW how hot it was in the 1930s!
Yes and the vast about of thermometer data available was mostly US plus some from Europe and Australia. There were limited ways to measure "globally" then just as today, the global temperature is a myth. Wee work with what we have and extrapolate in an HONEST way to the global climate temperature. There's many other ways too, like core samples et al. The glaciers and North Pole snow cap were smaller/thinner in the 30's-40's than now too, that's recorded. And these scientists and observers weren't troglodytes they knew how to perform these tasks and record them efficiently, despite what the alarmist's claim. But the new hypocrite climate deniers who scrub all previous data so they can start their new weather history and charts during a cooling period, like the 1970's, are not only wrong to do so, they are wrong at the top of their voices.
@@RJones-Indy there is no global temperature data for the 1930’s but the US has the best data available for that time period. Also you can look at newspaper articles of that time period and see it was very hot in many countries.
@@RJones-Indy The places where there are good records show the 1930s were the hottest decade. The climate alarmists don't tell you they created data in places where there were no records to make you think it is warmer now. But real science doesn't do that.
Brilliant discussion. Thank you Gentlemen.......
Something beyond the other RUclips charlatans, straightforward, practical. and easy to understand. I fear though, that the sky is falling bunch is like rust.can't get rid of it and when you think you have it's back again
"Tell the whole truth" Go figure, who'd have thought. Great Interview! Ordered the Book. Looking forward to it.
Bravo love your work gentlemen. I'll be spreading this as most people will find it easy to understand...
Every American should watch and digest this
Thank you Mr Koonin for not blowing with the wind. I now know the difference between weather and climate, the IPCC, and that everything began 400 years ago. And Mr Robinson, you are a public treasure, keep bringing us your wonderful interviews.
Great and eye-opening interview with Steven Koonin! Unfortunately, the Milankovitch cycles (solar activity, position of the earth axis, orbit of the earth around the sun, which is more elliptical or circular) are not discussed, although they have a major influence on the climate. The benefits of higher CO2 levels (mainly the greening of the earth) aren't discussed either.
Thank you
21:23 "Climate is mainly driven by the oceans ..."
Exactly what AGW alarmists do not get!!!
The climate is, much like the economy, a chaotic system, which makes it impossible to predict with known accuracy!
Thank you Hoover for airing this talk.
Honesty based in actual knowledge and forthrightness in presentation are always so refreshing.
I thank you Professor for this information ❤
BEAUTIFUL, PROF. KOONIN!
Koonin knows what he's talking about.
he knows he's full of shit
The argument that you need to use the Kelvin scale, and when you do that then the % change in Earth's temperature is tiny... this doesn't hold up. An important consideration is the temperature in relation to ice, not the relation to absolute zero. So it is more useful to calculate % temperature changes, not using Kelvin, not using Fahrenheit, but using Celsius where 0 is the freezing point of water, since the temperature in degrees Celsius is somewhat proportional to the amount of heat energy being absorbed by ice that will lead to melting.
I'm reading the 2021 e-book edition of "Unsettled", and I'm partway through it, for the most part (except for a very small number of problems like above) I'm finding interesting reading, and easy reading not requiring too much technical knowledge.
I understand what you mean however, with the global average being a very small number in Celsius, any even tiny change in the temp can be a large percent change, without being a large change.
This is brilliant! Thank you
Thank you both
Koonin says sea level hasn't accelerated. According to NASA, it has. Sea level has in fact risen four inches since 1992 and the rate of rise has doubled. According to NOAA, high tide flooding along the American south and Gulf coasts has risen an astonishing 400% and 1100% respectively since the year 2000. Even New England, which is uplifting land from glacial rebound, is up 140%. The big jumps in sea level are why Houston, Louisiana and New York already have a combined $100 billion in flood mitigation projects in the works. Up and down the coasts of the U.S., cities are emptying their coffers to build up their fast-eroding shorelines.
Throughout the 20th century, sea level rose at an average of 1.5mm per year. Today it's 5 mm per year, according to the World Meteorological Org. The biggest increase has come since the 1990s. Koonin is clearly wrong.
Nature, and humans, have always adapted to the environment. Trying to adapt the environment to humans is such a huge sign of hubris it must be in the historical top ten hubris events.
Excellent discussion
i am happy NOT missing this
Steve is so right. Small nuclear is a fabulous route to explore.
felawes ..... if you believe there is nothing to worry about why explore small Nuclear ???
Thank you for an excellent interview. I hope this gets millions of views.
Yes, very one-sided. Not challenged at all and stating exactly what people like you want to hear regardless of what the data actually indicates.
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@@RJones-Indyare you joking? All he does is quote the ACTUAL scientific data. WITHOUT the spin of the politicians. His book is basically the actual ipcc report for dummies. Without the policymaker summary which was NOT made by scientists rather it was made by the agenda driven politicians
@@RJones-Indy The data quoted from the IPCC reports?
Finally, truth wills out!
Thank you for sharing your truth
Excellent as usual. Thank you.
interview Tony Heller
Thank you!
Thank you.
Dr Vanessa Kerry appointed as WHO Director-General Special Envoy for Climate Change and Health. Her father is John Kerry, who is the United States Special Presidential Envoy for Climate.
Ain't nepotism wonderful ⁉️
ESG’s China’s ticket to the top
Exactly 💯
Fantastic. Thank you
Thank you. Excellent presentation/interview on the current climate changes.
Love Peter Robinson!!!
In July 2023, it was so cold that I had to run the heater.-- in southern California!
The weather forecasts where I live are highly unreliable.
No - I cannot agree that C02 density throughout the column of atmosphere is an independent variable with any stand-alone correlation to weather temperature, let alone causation, in either direction. There is a vast omission in climate simulations of the effects of convection, conduction and mass transfer and an absurd assumption in greenhouse theory that there is a disconnect between the surface and the atmosphere and that radiation is the only factor in analysis of dubious causality. Even then, there are additional glaring omissions regarding incident radiation from solar and galactic sources.
A credential that should have been listed was the fact that be worked for BP for years. As it turns out, buying gas and burning fossil fuels is either good for the environment, or, does so little and we don't actually understand it, so please, don't stop burning fossil fuels.
Listen to Dr William Happer, if I recall his name correctly.
Excellent thank you.
The climate debate isn't about climate and certainly isn't about science. Its a political issue and is about controlling energy production. Controlling energy production is control of economies and control of economies is control of people.
One constant in human history is...there is always going to be an element that seeks to have total control. Our modern era is no different. One political ideology and party has been working very hard to destroy the foundation of the system of government of these United States of individuals rights and are attempting to revert us and the west in general to before America became the most free nation in the world and return us to an aristocracy! An aristocracy...but worse. Climate change is but ine tool being used to achieve this.
Hot in Europe? Not in the North. It's been a very disappointing summer in Germany and Scandinavia. But that's not where the media is looking at/reporting on.
Same here in most of the US.
Even with normal temperatures, some weather maps are now displaying temperatures in red instead of green
@@landinhardy7682We must push the adverse effect of humanity narrative until 70-80% of the world's population has been eliminated!
East coast Canada too … cool, damp, grey