The 1800 Baker Rifle: The Action of El Bosque Perdido
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Here we examine the use of full Marching Order which includes the Knapsack and it's effect on shooting the Baker Rifle in field conditions.
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Didn’t Sharp tell you to ditch your pack and pick up a French pack ?
Major Sharpe if you please
Mack Sarnie the French field pack had large shoulder straps and didn’t have the strap across the chest.
Who?..... never heard of him.
Now that's soldiering!
But Sergeant Major Harper will talk with you, when you're back in camp😉!
Last time I was this early Canada was still part of the Empire
Thank for coming out!
Baby Inuyasha wait we aren’t anymore?
hosank The Queen is still on the currency
You keep raising the bar for firearms videos. To be 100% fair not everyone has the magnificent backdrop you have but also not everyone puts in the effort you do in knowledge, kit, set up, and editing. Good show. Carry on.
Thank you!
Absolutely brilliant and thank you for this. Sharpe would be proud.
Cheers!
He would make him one of his chosen men!
Stephan L Rifleman moustache, you have powder burns on your face...
Now all we need is a special guest star: Sean Bean! :D
He could run away screaming. :)
There is a fairly good, two part, documentary on Waterloo presented by Sean Bean you can find on RUclips.
So he can come on the show and die a horrible death?
@@britishmuzzleloaders you wouldn't believe, but he survived India, the Battle of Trafalgar, Copenhagen, the Peninsular War and Waterloo!
Okay, he was wounded in almost every battle, two times he was just before dying!
That would be awesome.
Let alone the smoke from the black powder giving away your position. I think having a pickle on your hat pretty much negates the use of camouflage.
Edit: 15:06 man I'd love to have your range, golly
Did you see the targets?.... the French Voltigeurs?.... :-)
Smashing production! A fine representation, indeed.
I must say, I cannot wait for a video, on this particular subject, that features multiple Robs (such as the ones featuring the brothers, the Sargent and Private Mckenzie, and those demonstrating types of section firing), if only to take the emphasis away from a single Rob cycling through loading and firing.
*Although, I do understand this takes time and effort... So I shall leave it as a hopeful suggestion. ☺️
I had a Zulu moment. Multiple Robs. Front rank fire. Middle rank fire.... That would take a bit of editing :)
Weta cold see him right on that though. www.wetafx.co.nz/
Tell them that Adam Savage sent you ;)
Having helped him with previous ventures to film a section firing it takes the better part of a day for a 30s clip
That is the plan... A series on LI tactics...
Some beautiful country there
I'm rather fortunate that way... Cheers.
14:17 I'm sold on the Shako. Try doing that with a tricorn, and you would have something a bit less fashionable afterwards...
As always, jolly good work.
Fashionable?... like some of the hats worn in the American Revolution?... cut down, let down and very much mongrel in appearance by all accounts.. :-)
@@britishmuzzleloaders Haha quite right, but I meant using a tricorn hat instead as a gun rest at 14:17. One would end up with a rather flat hat.
+1 to the Shako
@@theoldehandgonne2503 Of course. Though once the shellac wore off and the were a bit more battered, I suspect they wouldn't hold up quite so well. A bit of a niche usage anyway... :-)
Still. looks like a right pain. On, off. On, off. Rain down the back of yer neck....
You do a fantastic job of bringing history to life. Your videos are far more than Educational they are an inspiration to arm chair Generals and make me want to Join the Ranks of the British Army during any period of history you are Reenacting. I enjoy all that you do and I am certain you will continue to offer the best. Thank You and Carry On!
I prefer the term "Historical Shooting" :-) but very happy you enjoy the content! Thank you!
Every time I get a notification that you’ve uploaded I cannot express the speed to which I make time to watch. Your hard work and intrinsic attention to detail is well appreciated! Thanks Rob!
Very kind, thank you.
Dear God man, you aren't going to muster for inspection all wrinkled are you?! No liberty pass for you this weekend sir, good day
After a day of field firing, I earned those wrinkles.... :-)
Great video. Your attention to weapons uniforms and kit is first rate. You sir are living history.
Thank you!... But the rifle, it's all about the rifle....
01:48 I commend you willing to risk Giardia for the betterment of the channel!
The things we do for Historical Shooting!
I think the one person that gave the video a thumbs down, has Giardia.
He have eaten cannibal
He even digested balls
He need it to get hem racing
He know how to discuss
Because battalions from Africa
He wear the trademark
And that's all the portrait
A tattooed, a hard, a real!
I think it's the Giarda should be wary of him ...
Ref : ruclips.net/video/RbKNIww3MwA/видео.html
Watching this with the missus and she couldn't get over it. Her exact words (with some repetition): "He's going to get sick! Good job on the accuracy but there is no way in hell I'd do that."
@@britishmuzzleloaders Good heavens! For a moment, Hubby wondered if you were not campaigning in Ireland! "Wait!" he says. "Are the hills of the Emerald Isle that tall?"
Love your attention to detail. Having grown up learning to sew from my Acadian French grandmother, (Never call them Cajuns!) I can well imagine the work that would go into making that uniform and kit the old fashioned way, by hand. Hubby says that most soldiers included sewing supplies in their regular kit. His family has had members in the UK forces going way back. One was a Sergeant Major in the Boer War. Several died in WW-1. Both his grandfathers were in WW-2. One a driver in North Africa and the other a First Mate, on minesweepers! An uncle was in Korea and Malaysia. Today's youth don't know how lucky they are.
Love your videos, and the wry sense of humor present in them.
Keep up the good work!
Those green uniform make SOOO much more sense than those bright red targets, uh I mean coats.
Not that much of an issue really....
The thumbs done was from a follower of Napoleon
Haha!
lol
Some Voltigeurs, feared to death when they see the grashoppers😉!
Regarding taking cover, your Voltigeur oppos would all be armed with smoothbore Charlevilles, at anything beyond 100m would you not be rather unlucky to take a hit, while most of your rifled shots would go home?
Sure,.... so you'd stand in the open rather than behind a convenient piece of cover then?
I’m sure Sharpe would approve of your outfit. Love the two-stage pop of flint-lock arms.
Me too!
Where's Sergeant Harper?
Went back to Ireland!
Who?
Where is Dan Hagman?!
Oh wait, he just kill some frogs from 300 yards!
Sargent MAJOR Harper, please
God save Ireland
Now that's soldiering.
Sure!
Well done Rob as usual. Did they not ditch the flask too early on? I am tending towards the 'paper cartridge with patched ball' as being in the later Brunswick mould myself with separate blank and ready patched ball in the expense pouch. Much enjoyed. Nice to hear some Geordie music too.
Hi John. That option certainly makes sense... no direct reference to it in DW Bailey though... Just full cartridges.
i love how you left your shako behind, ran back to save it from the french under enemy fire. you sir are a hero 😂
Wasn't going to pay the stoppages for it!
Swift and bold chosen men
As swiftly as I can.... :-)
I used to shoot flintlock a fair bit, your trigger/lock time disapline is very good, not to mention pan flash to main charge ignition you obviously have good experiance in that regard , nice video.
It's not perfect, but I try.. Cheers
Wonderful work rob
Thank you!
Uh huh... you said ballbag... uh huh. Good vid again mate. If I wasn't a skint student I'd be Patreoning. Keep up the good work. ✊
Yup, I did! Would you believe that wording is in official publications.
Thanks Rob. Just outstanding as always. Keep up the good work.
Thank you!
Major Ducot disliked this video.
Hahaha!
You forgot General Calvet!
15:07 Wow great shot!
- a jealous new-brunswicker
Cheers!
Nice representation of the 95th Rob. I read somewhere (but memory could indeed be wrong) that the skirmish line or skirmish patrol was usually at least 3 riflemen of this era, due to the rates of fire as you point out - 3 shots per 2 minutes was what it looked like you were around (or was that careful editing?)...
Hi Thomas. Like all infantry, the Rifles were formed in files (pairs). These could be used as a team or combined with others to form larger groupings. From there they could operate by Section, half-company, or company. The Company was the typical manoeuvre unit in the field... formed in extended order and often combined with the Light companies of the battalions in the Brigade the riflemen were attached to, they would cover the brigade's frontage and/or protect the flanks. When encamped or in winter quarters, light troops would often draw the duty of picketing out in front of the Army. As for rate of fire, there is a series on paper cartridges and the Baker on the Channel that will better explore the rates of fire achievable. Cheers.
@@britishmuzzleloaders Hi Rob, Great information as usual, thank you !! Certainly like the new Uniform. That backpack really looks quite uncomfortable BTW, despite your adjustments. Will look at your Baker series - Baker rifle always interested me after reading a few Napoleonic stories - especially as I had family members on both sides of Waterloo (apparently the French paid better than the parsimonious British). Keep up the fine work. Best regards, Thomas.
Great video, one question. I'm from Manitoba and I want to get into muzzleloaders, any stores that you would recommend?
Track of the Wolf has lots of the little things..
Over the hills and far away! Excellent video as usual!
Cheers!
Outstanding production
Thank you!
You ram oppositely than the others, they had to flip it and ram and flip it again to return it and fire
I ram like every other Baker rifleman. :-) .. the ramrod is not intended to be reversed.
Well done Rob another well produced and informative production. The term "water bottle" was still used in the Canadian military in the 70's, but even so we all called it a canteen.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I think most of all I love the fact you are enjoying the fact the British were sorta kinda in charge when you show your re enactions it sorta kinda makes you ok with history so that is great .
Sure!
Jolly good show.
Thank you!
Where could I acquire one of these bakers rifles! Cheers!
One of these?.... This one specifically?.... I made it from Rifle Shoppe parts. Rifled Baker's are not available commercially.
It's amazing how much the peninsula looks like the foothills of Alberta. Great video, Captain Sharpe would have been proud.
And how the foothills of Alberta look like the mountains of BC... :-)
I stand corrected.
Thanks once again for another oustanding video. ATB. Nigel
Thanks Nigel!
Also mate, you filled up yer canteen down stream from your boot. U might poop in yer pants m8
Sure.
For real tho, straight stream water?
Another outstanding job. Interesting use of the Shako as a forward rest in the prone. Doctrine, or ad hoc?
Doctrine is the wrong word. Doctrine was 'hearts and minds' anti insurgency British Commonwealth doctrine of the 1950-90's. That is something less even than tactics.
@@99IronDuke actually one can as at that time we see the development of SUT in training for skirmishers utilizing the rifle. By the way firing from the prone has been used since before 1980's, and was put to good use by Confederate, and Federal marksmen during our Civil War in the 1860's; which was 120 years prior to the 1980's. That being due to literally over two centuries of individuals realizing that firing from the prone is the most stable position to do so from. Yes, it's near impossible to reload a muzzle loading weapon from that position, but shoot and scoot was rapidly becoming the name of the game on the battlefield.
@keith moore which is why I asked. Thanks.
The cap as a rest was shown in contemporary illustrations... it's not in any drill manual... There is a video on Fire Positions with the Baker if you are interested.
@@99IronDuke Doctrine refers to any established, and rigorously adhered to training and operations techniques. Today we call them TTP's, or Training Techniques and Practices. And yes Doctrinal training did not truly evolve in the modern sense until the 20th century.
You did a good job finding 'the lost forest'.
Thank you!
Green may be more camouflaged, but that black powder smoke is as visible as any redcoat’s. At least the green may have afforded some advantage in positioning before firing.
Like I said, places the concept (and legend) of a Rifleman's camouflage into context... :-)
Once again, informative, accurate and very well made. Thanks Rob!
Cheers!
Love the rifle and great video. Awesome Rob.
Thank you!
Sound the bugles, great work as usual
Cheers!
Now THATS soldiering!
Sure thing.
voltigeurs: light French infantry front line units to snipe at the enemy. French units all used smoothbore muskets
Yes. Although "sniping" has a modern connotation that isn't particularly applicable to the Napoleonic battlefield.
Great video! Good job!...gotta say though, Rodgers Rangers didn't have those issues.
What issues?
This is my favorite channel on RUclips
Glad to hear! Thank you!
That's soldiering!
Not really.... Good weather, breaks, and a nice warm meal after... :-)
Wonderful video, sir! Another great re-enactment and analysis. An army is carried on the backs of young men - who often times look only too much like boys. They are the only ones with the vinegar in their veins to survive and thrive in such an endeavor.
The reloading positions were interesting. In combat you become acutely aware of anything that separates you from the dirt (like a thick knapsack). But I suppose in the days when most soldiers were carrying smoothbores, there was a trade-off between having a decent reloading position and hoping the enemy's fire wasn't terribly accurate.
Thanks for the video and looking forward for the next!
I prefer to label what I do as Historical Shooting, as everything is live... :-) but I understand what you are saying... Thank you. Undeniably, and as mentioned in the video, loading whilst standing was by far the preferable position.
Bravo! Truly inspiring! Brings back good memories of Sharpe's (Insert Arduous Struggle Title Here)
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have to say at this time I feel there was indeed still a case for using a crossbow for this type of action. No smoke to give away a scirmisher’s position would be a huge advantage. Another thing, the army made some nod to camo with the colour of uniform then stick a bloody big plume on the shako!
I do sometimes wonder if firearms caught on so soon in history simply because they looked and sounded impressive rather than how effective they were.
Another good vid. Thanks for posting.
They caught on in history because it took next to no training to learn how to use them effectively..... Don't overestimate the value of "camouflage" in the early 19th century. Even in small actions and skirmishes, the nature of warfare did not truly require it in the way we think of today...
:)
5:48 , you must spit the ball in!
2 minute penalty for referencing Sharpe.
Thanks for all the time and effort you put into these videos🇦🇺
You are most welcome!
You just do an amazing job of bringing history to life!thanks,so much!!
Thank you!
Excellent! Entertaining and educational in equal measure. Commendable work Sir!
Thank you!
Huzzah! A new BML video. Btw Rob, I have been making your cartridges for the P58 enfield, and they work flawlessly.
Glad to hear! Cheers!
An exceptionally great video, as always!
Thank you!
Just wondering aloud not criticising but did'nt the Light inf have black painted buttons on their jackets then>
“Light Infantry” wore red jackets and had buttons like anyone else.. mostly pewter… The 95th had “silver” buttons at this time in their history.
Do you wear period correct boots? Why or why not? Anyways, I know I speak for many when I say Love the content!
They are not,... the army wore shoes at the time... mine are boots.
This is one of my favourite channels. Not a gun guy, at all, I just like the history and presenting. Lovely stuff.
Glad there is something that appeals! Cheers.
Outstanding video and very fine shooting sir!
Thank you!
Could you suggest a place so I could acquire my own 1800 Baker Rifle. I live in the US if that matters.
Excellent tutorial, Thanks for the time spent on the kit too...
Cheers!
You really need to invite either Sean Bean or John Tams to BC for shooting excursion
Sure!
@@britishmuzzleloaders
Agreement or is that a "yah, like that could happen"
@@mpetersen6 Well, let's all be a bit realistic here... :-)
superb quality again!
Thank you!
So much work to set this up and I speculate there was weeks where you free thoughts were focused on just how to shoot this.
I have ordered a baker. Hope it’s a good one!/Dave
Unless it's from the Rifle Shoppe or another high end dealer, it's smoothbore and therefore will not perform to the degree of a properly rifled one.
14:06 interesting you use the cap as a rifle bench, we used our rucksacks for the same thing. Wouldn't do much against actual bullets, unless you had something heavy and durable, but the rucksack could make a stable rifle position and give some kind of defense against shrapnel or possibly a bouncing bullet.
I do not see it here, but did old backpacks have emergency quick release straps so you could ditch them in close quarters battles? You'd just have to go back to pick it up afterwards. But at least you were not weighed down by needless weight in an actual fire fight or close quarters battles. Being in the prone with a rucksack still in makes it very difficult to look up/forward, at least for me anyway.
And the grey rolled up blanket looks like our olive (?) green sleeping pad. Hardly worth it in my opinion. The pad, not the blanket.
No knapsacks had no kind of quick release function..... Part 6 of the Kit Series has more info.
Besides the always impressive vids,, these tree stumps are too 😵.
Thanks 4 all the efford as always 👏🏿
You are most welcome!
The solitary rifleman of the 95th brought a memory of C S Foresters novel,Death to the French. Seldom mentioned nowadays.
And the thought of putting a lead ball in the mouth regularly. Gah. And yet we still have the understandable phrase," biting the bullet". Try that nowadays and the safety nannies would go ballistic. How our ancestors survived with lives surrounded by poisonous metals. Or didn't. Better them than me. I would rather have anaesthetic,thank you. Or opium in alcohol.
No lead ball in the mouth at all, actually... That phrase came from biting a bullet while undergoing an operation without anesthetic.... not biting a cartridge...
Somewhere in the world; a wargamer searches the internet for a 28mm Napoleonic British rifleman firing over his shako whilst prone. Must have full pack of course. Moustache optional but preferred.....
Haha!
The ram rod on my TRS Baker unseats itself after every shot, too. Just makes it easier to grab. You might consider showing how difficult it was (or wasn't) to reload with the sword bayonet affixed. Would like to have a sling like yours, but emails sent to shedtime@tesco.net come back as undeliverable.
Contact Laurence through Shedtime's FB page. The Sword will eventually get a bit of focus...
Rob, am I correct in saying that your Baker is from The Rifle Shoppe out of Oklahoma? Did you build it from a kit, or did you have someone build it for you? Thanks!
I made it from Rifle Shoppe parts. Great project! I should probably do a video on it... :-)
Well, the good news is, if you had been on campaign in Spain you would not have suffered so much from your academics "Gravitas". ahem... Good effort though! Up the Rifles!
Sure thing.
Why was the weapon not already loaded before you came upon the abandoned camp? And why are you wearing ear plugs? I understand if you jump cut and put them in for the act of actually firing, but just walking with them in seems a bit odd.
Sure thing.
Always wondered. Would a baker work with a minie-style projectile properly sized for it's bore?
Baker rifling is quite deep and chances are, you would get imperfect expansion into the grooves from an expanding ball... that said, I have never shot that way and have little interest in doing so... (and paying money for a custom mould to use only a few times... 🙂)
2:12 I just happened to glance up while watching him adjust his gear and look back over his shoulder. I was thinking to myself, please do not pee in this brook!
Nope.
Another cardboard army bites the recycling bin... Excellent, sir, as ever.
Cheers!
I see you used a rifle shop parts kit, did you do your own heat treating of the springs? And also, they don’t include drawings for drilling and tapping of the lock, so where would I find that info sir if you don’t mind helping a fellow BP shooter interested in building a Baker. Thank you sir!
As it was my very first foray into such a project, I asked them to assemble the lock. Cost a bit extra, but money well spent as far as I am concerned. As for the tapping of the side nail holes, I went with what was appropriate for the side nails they provided.
Did you make the kit yourself (all or any components)? If so, what sources, pattern or instructions did you use?
There is a series on Kit here on the Channel.. Part 6 has some of the Rifles info. Cheers.
Keep these fantastic videos coming!
OK!
"now what is most interesting to explore is, what exactly light infantry was at the time. Perhaps the biggest misnomer was that the men are lightly equipped; if anything the light infantry man or rifleman of the peninsular war was burdened every bit as much as his line counter parts. sometimes, more so, as his duties would see him farther away from supplies and support" Sounds similar to how light infantry works now.
The more things change,.......
Huzzah huzzah again excellent video top bloke all the best from Scotland 👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent research and presentation as usual!
Glad you enjoyed it! Cheers.
You didn't even make yourself Chosen Man, honestly if anyone deserves it....
A bit of fluff, that.... Haha!
was shooting with the sword-bayonet fixed done?
It can be...
Nice film... It’s Regimental Cap, not a Shako. 😉
Sure thing.
From a Sjt serving in 7 Rifles, well done sir. Once a Rifleman always a Rifleman ...
Cheers!
Show some 75 caliber balls hitting ballistic gelatin. If you did sorry missed it but if not let’s see how hard it hits that’s what makes the difference..
One day, yes...
Not worried about beaver fever? That water looked suspect to me. Great video throughout, thanks.
A little bit of movie magic, there.... :-) Cheers!
I’m just waiting to here “CHOSEN MEN!”
No pandering to quasi-historic television programs here.... :-)
Very interesting and very nice video! Thank you that you have really done great!
Thank you!
Great video as always... Thanks for making it
You are welcome!
I think that was about the best explanation of why the armies of the era didn't use camouflage.
Perhaps.
The Baker rifle is my favorite of the British arms..id like to see more vids of long range shooting. Seeing yours made me build my own from the rifle shoppe..fun rifle to shoot..
Cool! Glad to hear of another Baker shooter! There is a shooting series out to 300 yds on the Channel, if you haven't seen it...
It's worth remembering that the average height of the British and French soldiers at this time was under 5'5" and not particularly well fed either. Then there was the state of their footwear.
Indeed. Smaller by far.