The first thing to do is to acknowledge that squeezing and playing with velocity are not the same thing, which it looks like you already understand. I would then work on first learning to apply the throw and pull away with all of the fingers except the index and thumb (your fulcrum) removed. If you can learn to apply a lot of velocity with only those two fingers, you sort of "teach" your hand that it doesn't need to squeeze to get the right quality. Slowly add the fingers back in making sure that your hand does not squeeze any more than it needs to in order to keep control of the stick.
+BASS DRUM GROUP thank you for the great instrucrions!! what about the tension in forearms? as i think my situation is about my forearm when producing high velocity
Ahhh ok. Usually tension in the forearm is a result of breaking the wrist back too far during the prep. In this video at about 6:10, you can see that along with breaking the wrist back I also use some arm, so experiment with replacing a small bit of your wrist break with a slight amount of arm motion.
2 questions! First, for your next video, can you please go over how to best utilize each style of playing for each drum? As in bass 3 where the forearm is parallel to the ground and the elbows are lined up with your body, as to bass 1 where there a slight angle in the forearm and the elbow is a little past your back. I noticed that my chops seemed to suffer a bit when I switched from a bottom bass to a top bass during some free time I had. Second, can you link the songs you use in the description below? They're really chill. Also, I don't want another WGI Zone incident. That would be horrible. Just copyright them or something. However that all works. Thanks ahead of time! ~ The Ginger King (or Truck)
Specific positions for different size drums would be a great video topic! And yes! The reason you felt a change in your chops is not because you don't have enough, it's simply because you develop different types of chops depending on the drum you play. Bottom bass drummers form a lot of large muscle group chops that allow them to play through a head with almost no rebound, while top bass drummers develop small muscle group chops that allow them to control the high rebound that such a small bass drum has. Will go ahead and put all of the songs so far in the descriptions!
At 5:36 you're playing with good velocity. However, at 5:41 you don't play with the same hand speed. It's quite obvious once you play the consecutive 8th notes on the R hand. In between the 1st and 2nd note you not only can hear the difference but you can see it. Overall it is a good video in explaining velocity.
Wow, that is a really poor understanding of rebound. You throw the stick and relax, allowing the rebound to push your hand back up. If that isn't happening you're playing with WAY too much tension.
You are absolutely right and Present Me is kicking me from 2 years ago for explaining things in this way. I think that back then, my issue was that when I taught students, it sometimes wasn't enough to say "Just relax and it'll happen!" They just didn't have the body awareness to make that switch and I didn't know how to articulate the process of relieving that tension. So I tried to give them (not a good solution) an additional motion in order to get them to pull the hand back and out of the way so they could actually accept the rebound as opposed to hindering it. Nowadays I have developed a completely approach to this idea and this video could definitely use a refresh. Thanks for the comment!
My teacher always told me to use more velocity, and i never knew how to do it. Thanks for this !!
Can u please do a video on dutting in a basedrum line
i naturally get tension when i try to maximise the velocity... how to deal with it? thanks!
The first thing to do is to acknowledge that squeezing and playing with velocity are not the same thing, which it looks like you already understand. I would then work on first learning to apply the throw and pull away with all of the fingers except the index and thumb (your fulcrum) removed. If you can learn to apply a lot of velocity with only those two fingers, you sort of "teach" your hand that it doesn't need to squeeze to get the right quality. Slowly add the fingers back in making sure that your hand does not squeeze any more than it needs to in order to keep control of the stick.
+BASS DRUM GROUP thank you for the great instrucrions!! what about the tension in forearms? as i think my situation is about my forearm when producing high velocity
Ahhh ok. Usually tension in the forearm is a result of breaking the wrist back too far during the prep. In this video at about 6:10, you can see that along with breaking the wrist back I also use some arm, so experiment with replacing a small bit of your wrist break with a slight amount of arm motion.
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2 questions!
First, for your next video, can you please go over how to best utilize each style of playing for each drum? As in bass 3 where the forearm is parallel to the ground and the elbows are lined up with your body, as to bass 1 where there a slight angle in the forearm and the elbow is a little past your back. I noticed that my chops seemed to suffer a bit when I switched from a bottom bass to a top bass during some free time I had.
Second, can you link the songs you use in the description below? They're really chill. Also, I don't want another WGI Zone incident. That would be horrible. Just copyright them or something. However that all works.
Thanks ahead of time! ~ The Ginger King (or Truck)
Specific positions for different size drums would be a great video topic! And yes! The reason you felt a change in your chops is not because you don't have enough, it's simply because you develop different types of chops depending on the drum you play. Bottom bass drummers form a lot of large muscle group chops that allow them to play through a head with almost no rebound, while top bass drummers develop small muscle group chops that allow them to control the high rebound that such a small bass drum has.
Will go ahead and put all of the songs so far in the descriptions!
Thank you for the wise words! I will keep that in mind and work the different muscle groups. Also, thank you for linking the songs!
At pow and pulse do you use wrist rotation or wrist break?
POW and Pulse both use the wrist break technique.
Thanks!
At 5:36 you're playing with good velocity. However, at 5:41 you don't play with the same hand speed. It's quite obvious once you play the consecutive 8th notes on the R hand. In between the 1st and 2nd note you not only can hear the difference but you can see it. Overall it is a good video in explaining velocity.
Wow, that is a really poor understanding of rebound. You throw the stick and relax, allowing the rebound to push your hand back up. If that isn't happening you're playing with WAY too much tension.
You are absolutely right and Present Me is kicking me from 2 years ago for explaining things in this way. I think that back then, my issue was that when I taught students, it sometimes wasn't enough to say "Just relax and it'll happen!" They just didn't have the body awareness to make that switch and I didn't know how to articulate the process of relieving that tension. So I tried to give them (not a good solution) an additional motion in order to get them to pull the hand back and out of the way so they could actually accept the rebound as opposed to hindering it.
Nowadays I have developed a completely approach to this idea and this video could definitely use a refresh. Thanks for the comment!
I can tell from your hands you are an East Coast Cat
SideboyJ He marched Pulse, so you couldn’t be more wrong.
guy has no clue what he's talking about...
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