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Charlie & The Chocolate Factory Review
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2016
- Oompa-loompa, dooba-dee-doo, I've got another review for you!
(And in case you're wondering, that IS me singing during the credits. You're welcome/Sorry about that. lol)
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Most people refuse to acknowledge the book's existence and insist the 2005 movie is an adaption of the 1971 movie. Thank you for acknowledging the book.
I loved those books when I was a child. The Great Glass Elevator was my favorite.
@@Hinatachan360 There was also going to be a third book called Charlie in the White House I believe
Did you know that Jurassic park was based off of a book of the same name.
Yeah well nobody say the movie is pure shit just because it doesn't do exactly what the book did. The movie is good BECAUSE it's different
Roald Dahl is my favorite author.
Hinatachan360 every time hear or read the great glass elevator I hear MATPAT saying the great as elevator😂😂😂
Gene Wilder didn't like this movie, which is ironic because Roald Dahl disliked the 1971 version.
It's come full circle.
Jalex Fine Actually a little detail you left out is Roald Dahl disliked the original because he thought it focused too much on Wonka taking away the attention from Charlie.If that's the case he would despise this one a hell of a lot more the movie takes all the spotlight from Charlie with Wonkas pointless backstory.The movie is more about Wonka than Charlie it can't even end without Wonka making it right with his Dad.
To be fair, Dahl hated most adaptations of his work. I don't know how he would have felt about many of the others that have come up (I think he would have felt Matilda was too "bare bones" but had some hope), but the only one he liked was the animated BFG (he would've hated the Spielberg one, though - it bears only a passing resemblance to the book, which is actually not suited for film as it's half just conversation). Even months before he died when The Witches came out, he'd stand outside the movie theatre and tell people not to watch it - most likely because the movie turned the main character back to a human at the end.
Actually, no, Gene didn't like it UNTIL he actually saw it, then he decided he was wrong and Johnny Depp is indeed a worthy successor to the Wonka role.
@@strawberrysoulforever8336 So, was he basically the "I don't like change!" Guy from NC's episode of the Looney Tunes Show?
Fun fact: The original tunnel scene was totally unknown to the cast except Gene Wilder. The freaked out reactions of the kids (AND the parents) are 100% genuine.
Its strange how they stayed in character though (the kids referring to their 'parents' as such, everyone calling him 'Mr. Wonka' instead of Mr Wilder or Gene, etc. even when Slugworth randomly popped up, Charlie was just like "Grandpa!")
@@ruyekahatori3073 it could have been dubbed in
@@ruyekahatori3073 they could've went back and edited it before they released it
I think what they weren't told would happen was that Wilder would start singing and yelling and screaming; they thought he was legitimately going insane.
The tunnel sequence never scared me as it did others.
If your father is Count Dooku, you're GOING to turn out weird.
And Saruman
And Dracula
And the man with the golden gun
And dead...too far?
+Brad Hensil Well, so are Count Dooku and Dracula, so... maybe just far enough.
Of all the critics I've seen, you're the most realistic in terms of behaviour. Whilst you can can crack a good joke sometimes, you're mostly trying to be calm and collected.
Also, I CAN'T BELIEVE TIM BURTON PUT IN A REFERENCE TO HIS TENURE ON THE BATMAN FRANCHISE! No really, you pointed it out but in the scene when Charlie's father works in the toothpaste factory, He's making Smilex, which, in case you don't know, is also the name of the Joker's drugs in Tim Burton's Batman! (Spelt SmYlex btw.) To say I prefer Batman and Batman Returns to this movie is an understatement.
He said in ways it's superior. And I'm saying this as someone how prefers the original, this is closer to the book and has its moments.
I'd have to agree with you. The original is a masterpiece, whilst the remake is closer to the book and has great moments, my favourite of which being the line "I tried [the gum] on like twenty oompa loompas and each one of them turned into a blueberry. It's just weird!"
Ben Bell I got a chuckle out of that line
Calm and collected. Wait until you see his Alpha and Omega reviews :)
Yeah. that Tunnel scene gets creepier when you find out that the actors had no idea what Wilder was going to do, or what the images they'd see were. Their panic and fear was actually real. Yeesh.
It's creepy yes, but it's also a good way to get a genuine reaction. Just like when Lon Chaney's Phantom was first revealed to Christine.
I’m thankful Johnny Depp didn’t have the same idea for Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. But even if he did, Tim Burton probably would have disapproved of it.
@@darkyboode3239 the boat sequence is my favourite part of the Burton movie after the chocolate room. I love how real the chocolate room feels and also the vertigo that you feel at the beginning of the boat going downstream.
@@eleanorcooke7136Somehow just watching the boat scene on a TV manages to make you feel like your riding one of those log flume rides. They somehow manage to make the viewer feel like they are going down the hill with the boat instead of just watching it. Really good camera work I guess.
The creepy tunnel thing was done by the director to give the idea that Wonka might just be unhinged.
Oh.. Does unhinged mean crazy?!
Yessir
I suppose it was inspired by the book as well since Wonka recites "There's No Earthly Way Of Knowing" in the book.
Well, he kinda is, actually. He's not a good guy: he brings children into his factory yes to teach them a lesson but also make examples of them.
Plus he probably made a lot of blueberry flavoured treats out of Violet's excess juice
Funfact: In the book, it's definitely obvious that the Mike Tevea song was written by a bitter Author. The lyrics are the most hateful stuff.
It’s kind of ballsy for a movie to keep the song lyrics tbh
The irony is how how these books got made into movies with these strong anti-tv sentiment
It's weird because Mike Teavee was the kid I hated the least
@@dannyjorde2677 The VFX animators knew what they were doing. 18:59
@@jojomayard7233 Everyone: Damn, she thicc!
9:57 That scene to me that I think is underestimated is the fact when Johnny Depp says "Dad...Papa" and has that creepy stare as he's in deep thought. You have to remember that he never came out of that factory in like 20 years and pretty much isolated himself from the rest of the world, so that is another scene in which we don't know whats going on inside his head and what his past might have been like.
Exactly! The reason why I don’t like gene wilder wonka is cuz he too normal. He didn’t exactly act like someone who been in isolation. Depp wonka is how I expect someone who lived in his factory to look and act like. Plus I love how they gave him a backstory. And was happy to learn that Dahl wife love that part of the movie as well. She agreed to it and that a huge compliment.
@@sandywolfr26 yep, someone who hasn't interacted with anyone other than his workers act very different.
@@sandywolfr26 I agree. Wilder's Wonka was a charismatic weirdo who was a little off his rocker but mostly sane. Depp's was childish, anti-social and touch avoidant but also totally insane in a dangerous way. He isn't crazy, he's genius which is part of what makes him feel unsettling. Depp portrayed him as a loveable character, you could totally understand why he turned out like that and sympathise but you also know that he's a good bit darker than the regular person. He always knew exactly what he was doing.
Thats why I LOVE his portrayal of Wonka. He sounds socially awkward every time he speaks (unless its about candy) and he gives off this amazing aura of insanity and instability. Which is exactly what you would expect from a man who has been locked up in a factory for years with no human contact
@@orange_turtle3412 These VFX Animators knew what they we're doing 18:58
FINALLY some one that likes this movie just as much as I do! Ever since this movie first came out all I ever heard was people giving it negative reviews and it kinda made me sad because I really do love it. It's so refreshing to finally hear a positive review about this it for once.
JessiJay16 me too I love it so much
I know right
Park Ranger Rick Marshall: [referring to Grumpy] He never learns, does he?
Holly Marshall: Well, what do you expect? His brain's only the size of a walnut.
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83% on Rotten Tomatoes and four stars on Common Sense Media show that this film has in fact been acknowledged for it's wacky value and epic special effects. Also Johnny Depp. 10/10 Vastly superior to the original. Not saying the original 1971 version was bad, it just didn't feel that real and lacked in stuff Charlie and the Chocolate Factory had, story-wise and even production quality.
same!! Ive actually just watched it for the first time days ago and came to google the reviews cause for some reason when ppl love it as much as i do it makes it better but i felt sad that they kept comparing it to the 1971 one
Does no one question how Wilbur Wonka hasn't aged a day in about 30 years?
Maybe it's a Steve Martin thing. He just ALWAYS looked like that. lol
xX-Toenail-Fungus-Xx some people can live veeery long I just still question how he hasn’t aged a day in 30 years
He became a vampire.
@@graciegj63 And a Sith Lord.
@@mitchfletcher2386 And then he became Death and learned to lighten up and have a sense of humor.
Watching the behind the scenes documentary of this movie and seeing Felicity Dahl say that Roald Dahl would have loved this movie warms my heart
Roald Dahl was like the Tim Burton of literature in my opinion
Their styles go almost hand in hand.
"Roald Dahl was like the Tim Burton of literature in my opinion" that's what i've thought my whole life wow
I’d imagine so, seeing as the first adaptation wasn’t pleasing to him. Not sure if he’d care for the Matilda film.
Wow, an actual positive review on this movie? That makes me really happy! To be honest, I
ve never really cared for either movie, but this one has always intrigued me ever since I first saw it as a kid. It's really nice to hear a positive review on this one after hearing so many rip into it.
I came to this review the sameish way, the exception being this was the third version i saw (if we count several book readings with drawings as one version) and though i was not a kid anymore when this came, its still my favorite version.
Thanks man for pointing that out to me before I started wacthing this video
Now I will avoid wacthing this at all cost
fargeeks He makes pretty good points, let him have his take on it.
ikr? I totally love Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. I saw it, when I was 11 or 12. ^^
Agreed,why are people always hating on kid's movies and shows? They're aimed at kids.
That ending was simply beautiful....
RIP Gene Wilder and Sir Christopher Lee. You both will never be forgotten :(
yeah R.I.P Gene Wilder(original willy Wonka and Sir Christopher lee(count Dooku /the dentist/Dracula)
Yeah
But do we really need Wonka's past? Ugh, still creeps me out.
It's funny that Wonka's dad hates chocolate so much, when cocoa is actually really good for your teeth.
Thank you so much Bob, THIS is the review I needed to watch. As someone who not only really likes both the book AND this movie, but also knows his research as this is NOT a remake but just another adaptation of the book it was based on, it felt so refreshing hearing you compare it to the book while occasionally showing some contrasts between it and the first adaptation, but also a positive review overall. I just think this film gets too much undeserved hate and it felt so nice to hear your positive thoughts. Grazi.
I often wondered why some works lend themselves to multiple interpretations (the works of Shakespeare or Dickens come to mind), but if a different interpretation of most OTHER works is created, it's a "remake" of an earlier version. You don't see anyone accusing 1931's Frankenstein of being a remake of the 1910 silent film.
@@Bobsheaux It's because there are still people who were old enough to remember the first movie adaptation, but may not have read the book it was based on. I have actually interacted with people who didn't realize that Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was originally a book.
Hey Bobsheaux, the Trope you are wondering about is called "Narration Echo"
Good to know!
Well, at least we know what to basically call this stupid thing in Peppa Pig, given that it happens so very often, that it just becomes an uncreative and irritating hunk of padding for the run-time.
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@@retrogamelover2012 More like it was misused constantly.
Fun fact: Roald Dahl (when he was still alive) actually despised and disowned the 1971 film. He was infuriated with the plot changes and he hated Gene Wilder because he replaced an actor Dahl chose to play. (Spike Milligan was originally supposed to play Wonka) And he hated the fact that the story was more focused on Wonka instead of Charlie, the main character of the book. And yes, he despised the inclusion of the scary tunnel scene
I don't think Dahl wouldn't enjoy this film either, but he'll probably enjoy it a little bit because it's a little more accurate to his actual book.
Actually suprisingly dahls wife said that he would have loved the 2005 movie.
PREEEAAACCCHHHHH!!
@@exnhx4730 who knows, maybe Dahl liked how deep Wonka's character was and gave a reason for Wonka to act the way he does.
Actually the funny thing is despite the title of the original, it actually didn't focus so much on wonka
He was at first but when Tim Burton told Dahl (the wife) about the Buckets house he was on board with the movie
No matter what your opinion of this movie, we can all agree that Christopher Lee is the only person who can make saying "Lollipops" actually menacing
I think the scene between Wonka and his father would be better if it was revealed that Wonka never ate the chocolate he just made it
Isn't that what Wonka admitted in the original story anyway? I definitely remember Wonka saying he doesn't eat breakfast cereal either because it's all made of wood shavings.
To me it was pointless.
I love this video
I cried during that scene
Karena The Dawg good for you.👍😄😌
I really like how Bobsheaux's opinions don't go hand in hand with Nostalgia Critc's. In fact, he often goes against them. It's quite refreshing.
Kristy Frost whats a nostalgia critc's? Sorry i know i must be annoying
@kasan0da yeah I mostly disagreed with that video.
@@thepigeonman3719 Nostalgia Critic is a RUclipsr who reviews movies on Channel Awesome.
Lol I'm so late but I saw the comment, so I had to answer the question.
@@PBJBUTTER5 Wow that person has been waiting a while 😂
@@Martin-rh6bn The reason this film pushed back to avoid Peter Jackson films' competition: It was originally going to be released in December 2003 but was pushed back to December 2004 to avoid competition with The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, then pushed back to July 2005 to avoid competition with King Kong remake (which got pushed back as well to December 2005).
RIP Gene Wilder, thanks for all the imagination.
I already miss his wonderful singing😭
I only know him from the Willy Wonka movie so I have no idea what else he was in. 😭
The next time I go and get chocolate I'll get those big bars.
+Grainne Quinn "Young Frankenstein" and "Blazing Saddles"
We've lost one of the most heartwarming actors ever
If you think Varuca's demise in this version is horrifying, apparently in the new Musical, she gets TORN LIMB BY LIMB apart and DECAPITATED but she lives on because... Wonka magic? And the Oompa-Loompas stick her back together with a glue stick.
Glue stick!!!!!
Nothing a little glue and determination can't fix
Happy ending yay??????
Yep, Violet also pops off stage in that version. As well as her father coming onto strange afterwards with some of the pieces stuck to him
21:12 - Knowing how insanely versatile Johnny Depp is, I have no doubt in my mind that that was actually him doing an impression of the other actor.
Yeah. I agree and believe so too.
I loved the Tim Burton movie as a kid and I still do to this day. I like the fact that this was more adapted from the book, the factory looks amazing and creative and the scene at the end with Willy and Wilbur was a really nice addition.
And though I agree with you that the Tim Burton movie is superior to the original Willy Wonka movie, I still enjoy watching the original Willy Wonka movie whenever it's on TV.
R.I.P Gene Wilder.
I'm glad you liked but this movie was anything but likable.
James A Williams this movie is beyond garbage, johny dep was beyond awful, Charlie was so unrealistic he can play Jesus, the umpalumpa is short people not a umpalumpa this movie is beyond shitty
James A Williams I also love this movie,and I also do love it how it fixes flaws from the original
I’ve seen your bob the builder, Noddy and fireman Sam review and I agree with your opinions. Review season 22 of Thomas now the episodes are out
@@MsSaskue360 Opinion: a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
One word: Nostalgia. People will always have nostalgia; a true critic puts that aside.
That said, this film does have problems. Willy Wonka is unfortunately seems a little bit over the top in this one, and that's not in comparison to Wilder. It's just a problem.
Plus at times the writing can be a little cheesy at times.
That doesn't denounce the film entirely though. It just makes it less of a case of 'which is better' and more a case of 'they're different', and in the end that's actually the best thing a remake can do to a classic. If you can provide a new interpretation on an existing idea, then you have justified a film's existence.
couldn't have said it better myself
My nostalgia for movies usually end up including me hating them lol
i really enjoy the wonka in the 2005 movie. hes a bit weird and wild and crazy and seems a little unhinged and i think thats how he should act with all these crazy ideas, being locked away in a factory for so many years and so on. Not to say wilders was bad, but it felt boring to me.
Starr Smith detached the nostalgia both movies are good
That’s because it’s not a remake, it’s another adaptation.
You'd think with Grandpa Joe being bed ridden for 20 years, he wouldn't be able to stand because his muscles would have atrophied, lest I'm mistaken.
Honestly both movies are good for their own reasons, but the factory didn’t feel like the factory in the original. When I saw the chocolate room in the original, the chocolate looked like sewage, and when you notice the window in the background, it feels like a warehouse with candy hanging around where as the one in the 2005 film actually looks like a room made of candy. Honestly I can’t bring myself to hate either film. They both have their moments, and charm. But design wise, I have to go with the madhouse that is the 2005 version.
Fun fact, the chocolate river in this movie was real chocolate.
@@donaldtrumpling2016 such a waste, but awesome, I’d love to be in that room
@@tgiacin435 90% of the chocolate room in the 2005 film was real and not CGI. I'm pretty sure that the cream in the mushroom was real and that everything that they ate was some kind of candy as well as the jelly pumpkin. The grass that they ate was probably sugar. The things they didn't eat probably weren't edible because that WOULD be very wasteful.
@@eleanorcooke7136 The reason this film pushed back to avoid Peter Jackson films' competition: It was originally going to be released in December 2003 but was pushed back to December 2004 to avoid competition with The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King, then pushed back to July 2005 to avoid competition with King Kong remake (which got pushed back as well to December 2005).
@@eleanorcooke7136 I wonder what the room was like when no one was filming in it while props were still there. Would the candy have gone bad being left out like that for long enough, or would they replace it all every time recording was about to begin?
When Wonka elevators out of the house after Charlie refuses, I was half expecting one of the family members to yell ''And could you patch the hole you made in our fucking roof!?"
I don't know the trope but let's call it "Narrative Echo". +Bobsheaux
It's actually Narration Echo. Check TV Tropes
Cainmak Wow, I was close.
That trope really annoys me
Well good for you then.
I agree
I'm glad someone has finally given this movie the review it deserves; the one where the reviewer finally takes of their nostalgia goggles and realises that the 2005 movie is the better than the 1971 movie. Don't get me wrong, I love the 1971 movie but I can't help but find the 2005 one as both a better movie and a better adaptation of the source material and I really do think that the only reason that some people prefer the 1971 version is because of nostalgia
I'm pretty sure there have been more than one guy who took off the nostalgia goggles
You want to see a guy really not remove the goggles watch the Nostalgia Critic's old vs new of it he usually try's to compare but in that one oh sweet merciful God
Mr Critical No kidding, I mean, I'm a fan of the NC but he just seemed so biased in that video
Simply put, each version is just as good as the other, for different reasons, much like Manhunter and Red Dragon (which, by the way, the latter is NOT a remake of the former at all). Manhunter established the modern police procedural and its reliance on forensics, with a story about a burned-out cop wanting to quit. Red Dragon is truly a Hannibal Lecter story, with all that that implies, while following the same beats, with wonderful performances, even if people can't help but compare it to Silence of the Lambs. These two versions of the classic story are much the same, with very different strengths, and being masterpieces in their own way. Some, like Doug, refuse to see that one is not replacing the other or that the films can coexist (he feels the same way with Disney's live action remakes, even if he likes them, like he did with The Jungle Book). So I can watch both films and get the same enjoyment. I can be entranced equally by Augustus's song and Pure Imagination. RIP Christopher Lee and Gene Wilder.
iKillerZombie I don't have nostalgia goggles, I was born in 96. I still prefer the 71 version, but that's just because I wanted to see Charlie's story and not so much Wonka's. I do really enjoy Charlie and the Chocolate Factory as well though. Both are great movies.
Fun fact: everything in the chocolate room is real. All the candies you see is real. Blew my mind when I learnt that fact.
Tim Burton was really against CGI. Most of the CGI used was in order to make rooms look bigger. He was trying so hard not to use it that he had the crew train rescue squirrels for Veruca's scene. Most of the chocolate room is real, even if not all of it is edible. Unfortunately, that amazing looking chocolate river is just plastic and paint.
@@eleanorcooke7136 Even though that is a tragedy that it's made out of paint and plastic, it's still practical effects.
fun fact about this movie, Gene Wilder actually called this movie an insult, stating that he didn't like what Tim Burton did with the directing.
Bobsheaux mentioned Wilder didn't like this movie at the end of his review.
+Raven Fox Audio he did? well, I didn't get to watch the whole thing yet.
and like the rendition at the end.
and Roald Dahl actually stated his disapproval of the first movie too, who also hated how the directing went with it. So the lesson of the day is, if you make a Charlie & The Chocolate Factory remake, a major contributor to the adaptation before will hate it.
so tim burton must hate that weird crossover between tom and jerry and the original movie huh.
God I love how Christopher Lee says lollipops.
you are the ONLY one I have met besides me who thinks the remake better!! Thank you! Now I know I'm not alone. However the original has such a charm , I love that one too. I however loved the book and was nice to see a more true to the remake.
I prefer this one over the original. It's closer to the original and all changes were approved by Felicity Dahl after Ronald's passing. The original was a classic but it could never top the new one because the original creator hated the film and it doesn't feel right because of that.
Thankfully this adaptation has been growing a fanbase as time has gone on, and it's becoming a much more beloved movie than it used to be.
Also, must be weird that this five year old comment has only two replies and that they were written two days apart from one another... Just kinda neat.
It's not a remake. Just another adaptation of the original book.
Bobsheaux, why do you have so much creativity?
Because you must RECOGNIZE MY OBVIOUS ARTISTIC TALENT! lol
Bobsheaux lol, love your channel, wish nothing but the best for you and Raven!
Why did you not mention the chocolate palace Wonka built for Prince Pontecherry?
+Han Solo Thank you! :)
+Hewy Toonmore there isn't really a reason to mention it other than being part of the original book
I like this movie for being a more faithful adaptation of the original Dahl book, though Wonka's backstory is kind of unnecessary and Depp's portrayal of Wonka isn't really that good. But I still love the original Gene Wilder movie more.
Couldn't have said it better myself! (Love your reviews btw. :D)
Bobby Lambert Thank you. :)
That's alright Hewy mate, we all have our opinions.
Well put, Mr. Toonmore. Incidentally, I love your work; and you're one of my personal inspirations for writing reviews alongside Bob here, the Fiery Joker, the Hardcore Kid, and of course, Linkara and the Nostalgia Critic.
I prefer the original too. It's just too bad Roald Dahl himself didn't like the original film.
I wonder what he would've thought of this adaptation?
Roald Dahl hated the original version cause it wasn't his story.
I feel, for dahls world, the only director that could do Roald style of weirdness...Depp is that one man for that.
L
You mean Burton
Depp isn’t a director
20:18 I'm pretty sure each song is supposed to represent a different decade of music
Augustus - Fifties
Violet - Sixties
Verruca - Seventies
Mike - Eighties
Actually, Deep Roy said that Augustus' number was inspired by Bollywood movies. Fitting since Roy is Indian.
+Andrew Ollmann Deep Roy is Kenyan.
Forgive me, then. However, I did read an interview with him saying he wated to do a Bollywood number.
one word -scary
The trope in question is called “Narration Echo”. I also love that trope, and it’s why A Series of Unfortunate Events is one of my favorite book series.
I of course grew up with the classic film, so it holds quite a bit of nostalgia. But this one was definitely truer to the book, and I did love the quirk of the Johnny Depp's portrayal and I loved that Willy had to learn a lesson from Charlie like that. Great review!
RIP Gene Wilder
Christopher Lee really adds a certain gravitas to his performances that most other actors can only dream of. It might be the voice, or it might be the carriage, but he's just... _there_ in a way you cannot ignore.
Also, I want that Transformers poster behind you. Gimme.
Confession time: I didn't like the original as a kid. I don't know why, but it just never grabbed me inspire of watching it MANY times. I sort of did think it was ok at first but it got overplayed to the point where I found myself liking it less and less and wondering why anyone liked it to begin with. When teachers and parents are forcing you to watch it multiple times every Easter, it can get quite annoying,
That said however, I absolutely love the Tim Burton version. It's different, but keeps most of the good elements of the original but it's a little updated and was just all around a lot more fun to watch. Johnny Depp is pleasantly weird and the kid was very good too (they were also both in Finding Neverland, which is another great movie despite how many liberties the apparently took with what actually happened). I enjoyed the music a lot too. I also liked the ending more in this one because they added more to Wonka's story than just saying he was a weird guy that liked making candy. Naturally, he'd have to be a product of his environment so I think adding the stuff about his dad was a great way of doing that:
Although I will probably check out the Wilder version again soon. It's been a long time since I've seen it so maybe my opinion will be different this time around.
Yes sir
~Same. I'm gonna be honest, as much as I actually like Gene Wylder, I don't think he did a good job.~
Same. I love this way more than 71 version. I read the book and this movie is closer to the book. Also depp wonka is how I expect someone who lived in isolation look and act like. And love the backstory as well. They showed us how wonka met the oompah and why he became a chocolatier. Robot chicken point out that other wonka could have enslaved them for all we know lol.
Me neither. I really hated Violet’s character in the og movie. I never understood how she was so “Evil”. I love how the 2005 movie and the musicals have different idea’s of who she is. I think in each adaptation they should give Violet a completely new thing or personality to her character apart from chewing gum.
RIP Gene Wilder. Your work, unlike your grandfather's, will never be doo-doo.
I do like this movie but never cared for how Willy Wonka or Charlie was shown. Johnny Depp's Wonka seems creative enough to create these candies, but not mature enough to run a candy making factory. Charlie is just too good that I can't at any moment think of him as a child. I'm surprised he didn't receive the golden ticket as a thank you gift from some elderly man whom he cured of blindness.
My guess is Wonka started small with a stand selling his own chocolate and putting together his weird concoctions in his own time then made enough money for a shop, wowed some big executive who gave him his own factory and the rest is history
"ALLOW ME TO GIVE YOU ALL THE CHOCOLATE I GET ONCE A YEAR" --Charlie the Hedgehog, original character don't steal he likes puppies and is good at everything and everyone loves him
I knew kids like Charlie. And he isn’t too good. He is poor so what does he do when he finds money on the street? He buys himself candy. When he brought the ticket home, he said no one going. Someone offer 500 dollars and we need money more. He a kid and already is world weary. Yea he share his birthday gift but that was also in the book. He is what very poor kids act like. A lot of people probably never seen the type of kid Charlie is so everyone thinks he too good. They are the kids who are quiet and in the back. The ones you see wearing the same thing every day. They the ones saying sorry can’t hang out my family need me. Also depp wonka is how you expect someone who thinks of the crazy stuff in that factory. He a grown man with a kid mind. Hence the whipped cream part. Cuz that is how kids will think you get whipped cream. And remember he been in isolation for many years. Bet no one comes out of isolation with their mind right. Haven’t spoke to any other people so yea he is awkward and strange. It why I couldn’t buy the 71 wonka. He seem too adult and couldn’t imagine him having the creative in his factory. Plus the factory itself was too much like a factory.
Thank you so much Bob. I freaking love this movie and I think it gets too much hate from so many other reviewers out there, especially one that I have so much respect for. There are things I do like about the original movie, but for some reason I've always preferred this one. Maybe it's because I'm a Pirates of the Caribbean fanboy and I'll love pretty much anything Johnny Depp is in. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same!
TRUUU Johnny Depp I'd bae
I like the original better, but I think way too many people let their nostalgia cloud their judgement. This really is a good movie when you look at it and don't constantly compare it to the original.
I haven't seen that, most people I know (while maybe having a preference) enjoy both movies.
I didn't sorry but I didnt.
Who else want to see Tim tackle the sequel, Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator (seriously look it up), who else but Burton could make aliens, space hotels, presidents nanny's and minus land work
the kid who played charlie retired.
+The G-Wing He isn't. He has a man role in Bate's Motel tvshow
Isak Wolff Huh. never heard of it.
The sequel legally can't ever be adapted. Rohl Dahl hated the first movie so much he wrote it into his will.
Katherine Duncan God Dammit, Dahl. We loved your stuff, but you made all those dick moves.
Finally, a critic that's not hanging onto nostalgia to save them
unlike *some* critics...
Subtlety! *ding*
I love how when some people have different opinions they automatically have to be hanging onto nostalgia
I can agree that the Burton film is more of a faithful adaptation to the original book by Dahl, but the original film took what was available with the Dahl book and turned it completely timeless that it overshadowed the book in some ways. For all the ways the Elfman music is good, you can't get the Oompa-Loompa song or "Pure Imagination" out of your head once you hear them. For as insane as Depp is, as you put it Bob, you can't escape the warmth and charm that is Wilder's Wonka, even though you know deep down he's fucked up and probably HAS killed the kids even if he says they're OK. For as nice as the set design is in the Burton film, the other stuff feels more real, like a mixture of whimsical and actual factory, as though stuff was actually being made there despite the over-the-top fantasy. Also, the story of the original film knows that really Wonka is a supporting character in many ways, since they focus heavily on the children while Wonka is the arbiter of their lessons or salvation in the factory while in the Burton one he's got rather unnecessary backstory that in my opinion diminishes his real importance to the story. But that's just me, and I'm another opinion, much like you are, Bob. And if that suits you better than the original, who am I to judge? :)
I know this comment is super old… But did you really just describe Wilders Wonka as warm and charming? We must not have watched the same film… because to my eyes Gene Wilders Willy Wonka was a cold, sarcastic, mentally unstable lunatic!
Glad to see guestsheax does'nt slow you down in the slightest
I think it's good filler
Nessie The Lochness Monster yeah i agree
best worst thing to ever happen to the channel
I'm so glad you don't hate this version!
I loved it. I love dark and ironic tone. Mostly pechimist world but with shiny moments of humanity.
My favorite part of the original is the "creepy tunnel" part, actually. That's what I liked about the movie; it *almost* didn't have a happy ending. How rare is that in a kid's movie? Non-existent.
I like the new one, but the original wins for me.
The tunnel in the 1971 version was actually essentially a middle finger to the censors.
Nice singing in the end credits, Bobsheaux. Very well done :)
Yeah I didn’t know he could sing that well
Damn you have a great singing voice.
I personally think this movie is pretty good except for one glaring flaw, Charlie. He is WAY too perfect and WAY too boring. He needs to be a little more flawed in my opinion, otherwise he acts more like a machine rather than an actual child.
Exactly. He’s more mature and wise than Willy Wonka and he’s only a child! Charlie in this movie only wins the factory because he lasted longer than the other kids, not because he actually earned the factory after Willy Wonka tested him and his loyalty.
I like both movies, actually. I felt that some things were done better in this one than in the 1971 version, such as Grandpa Joe being a former employee, and Agustus Gloop, Violet Beauregard, and Mike TeeVee's portrayals made them brattier and bigger pains in the butt. However, I thought Veruca Salt's portrayal was better in the original. I felt she was bigger of a brat than in the remake. I also found Wonka's backstory to be pointless, and I felt that Johnny Depp's portrayal of Willy Wonka made him look immature. Gene Wilder did a better job. Heck, that man was born to play Willy Wonka! He even looks like the illustrations of Wonka in the book. I also like the music from the 1971 version better. I was watching the movie in honor of Gene Wilder's memory the other day, and I almost cried during "Pure Imagination," actually (I think the nostalgia was getting to me, and the fact that we had lost a wonderful actor).
and also not to mention showing the many candy miracles willy wonka pulled off in the newer version like that giant chocolate palace he made
gene wilder sucked ass at it, its so boring for me to watch. Maybe if because of different times but i really cant watch the old movie.
@@exnhx4730 Different strokes for different folks.
i think johnny did a very good wonka being he was in a factory with no contact for a long time of course some one acts like that the backstory for one gave more reason why he was bas going the fake o no to what happen to the kids
Can we take a second to appreciate the one guy who play all of the Oompa Loompas? That had to have been one of the hardest parts of making this movie.
ok i have to
1. invent a time machine that goes both ways
2. go back to 1985
3. bring roald daul back to the present
4. get his opinon on this version
5. send him back
his wife said he would have loved this version
@@exnhx4730
Oh really?
Axelfirekirby Yep his wife was actually an executive producer on the movie as well. theres interviews on youtube if you would like to see them.
What a wonderful way to end the review. ;-;
On a different note, I never noticed before but I love how Wonka never bothers to learn any of the kids' names. He just calls them "Li'l Boy" and "Li'l Girl".
R.I.P. Gene Wilder
The passing of an amazing actor.
I think Violet turning into a blue berry in this was 10x scarier than the original tunnel scene.
I'm so glad to finally see a somewhat positive review of this movie, a lot of people seem to hate this without looking into it further, it's refreshing.
Tim burton takes the scary tunnel and turned it into an amusement park ride commercial.
Is the boy who plays Charlie the same young man in the new series "The Good Doctor?"
He is. :)
I don't know if I'm the first to say but there is a Tom and Jerry: Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory! 😫 if you thought Tom and Jerry: Wizard of Oz was bad I do hope Bobsheaux would bash this new one to smithereens
Saberspark already did
The tunnel in this version is even worse!
Honestly, I can't see any child, no matter how vile, wanting to go through a tour with Depps Wonka unless they really wanted to see everything they could in the facility. I'd be pulling on my mom's arm and begging her to get me out if I had been in Charlie's shoes and had just watched Violet's transformation.
I guess what turns me off the most is Depps portrayal. Theres something disturbing and unhinged about his Wonka, that, while I admit would be more realistic if you had the life he had, isn't a personality that many people would feel safe around and would most likely have them grabbing their kid and booking it towards the nearest exit. At least with Wilder, he was charismatic and had an energy to him that made you feel welcome and willing to see the tour through to the end even when things were going to hell with the kids.
I guess it just boils down to personality and which version sticks out more to you. My sister loves the Burton production while i enjoy the original, but thats just our preferences.
Still, it was great to see a positive review of this movie. Thanks Bobsheux, for both the review, and the tribute to Gene Wilder. He will be missed.
I don't think Ronald Dahl liked the original actually.
@@billybarnett9518 True. He hated the original.
I like that saying, "Candy doesn't have to have a point. That's why it's candy." alongside your phrase, "I do love a good steak dinner, but sometimes a movie can just be candy." It kind of speaks to me as an artist, as weird as that sounds.
Creators shouldn't fret over whether or not their stories or pieces will be the next big thing that will be talked about for years to come. Just make something you like. As a treat. So many people have the attitude of Mike, "why is everything here completely pointless?" when really, art doesn't always need to have a point. Sometimes the point is just to indulge and enjoy yourself a bit.
Even more ironic, is that art “made for the sake of art” has a tendency of being the stuff that is more fondly remembered and rewatched.
RIP Gene Wilder and Christopher Lee.
Very heartwarming there at the end, Bobsheaux. Thanks a lot. :)
A lot of people criticize Johnny Depp and Freddie Highmore's performances in this movie but honestly I don't think they were that bad. Though no disrespect to the the late Gene Wilder and Peter Ostrum.
Given the reputation Tim Burton has, the cave scene is unbelievably ironic.
It is ironic, because even I feel not even *Tim Burton* could have topped the 1971 cave scene.
The Nostalgia Critic's review is the opposite. He did give props to the visual esthetic, though.
This is how a remake should be done in my opinion
Thank you for this review, I do love both versions and they have a certain charm to them, but I will admit to liking the Burton one a little bit more and I don't see very many people agree with me. Burton was able to bring about the crazy yet whimsical charm that was the story of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, plus like you, I like that each song was a different genre. It also helps that I love Tim Burton movies ever since I was a kid, I even enjoyed his not so great movies too because of the unique artistic vision that is Tim Burton.
My favourite review of all time. That was no less magical than the book and films it's based on. I'm glad someone else sees the 2005 film as a reimagining of the book not as a remake of the film. I may be very late with this comment but can I just say that you really outdid yourself with this review. Well done.
No wonder Mr Wonka became a mad genius. He had count dooku as a father!
This movie *is* better than the 1971 film and is *NOT* a remake. It's just another adaptation of the original 1964 book by Roald Dahl. I'm glad you acknowledged that. This is actually my favorite movie of all time.
I always called that trope "The Stan Lee Effect"
It's also impressive how the same actor was used for every Oompa-Loompa in Burton's rendition. Imagine how many takes this single actor had to endure to portray all of them effectively.
I used to believe the 1971 version was the superior version because “Classic > Remake”. Even my father believed that the original was better.
I even once considered this film to be one of the worst remakes ever.
But then I read the book and how the Tim Burton version is more accurate. Plus the fact Dahl despised the 1971 film (He did hate most adaptions of his books, bar the animated BFG by Cosgrove Hall, he actually loved that one.) and then I saw Media Mementos’ video on why the Tim Burton version is the superior version and now I have to admit, the 1971 film is actually pretty bad, with Gene Wilder (RIP) being the only good part about the original.
So yeah, sometimes the classic film isn’t always better than the remake. It can be the opposite and this film is the perfect example.
The fact that the original movie was only made to promote and sell their new line of candy😂 Yet everybody has the misconception that Charlie and The Chocolate Factory was just a cash grab remake of the pure intentioned original movie
Roald Dahl’s wife said Mr. Dahl would’ve liked this version and she especially looked over everything so at least this version has the creator/ creator’s estate’s approval
Unlike most people since the Gene Wilder movie came out, my introduction to the world was the book. While Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory IS a fun movie, and has the warmer Wonka, I just never was able to embrace it like everyone else. Then the Tim Burton movie came out, and I was able to enjoy the songs(other than the original movie's Pure Imagination...I can't deny how perfect that song is), Willy Wonka just felt more like how I'd always imagined him, and the whole thing just worked better than the original. I won't argue with ANYONE who says Wilder is the better Wonka, but I just can't see how the original movie is the better film. I do personally prefer Johnny Depp's Willy Wonka, because, as I said, I always pictured the chocolatier as a more distant, insane man than the more human version in the original. Yeah, Charlie hugging him feels more realistic in that, but I never thought that it SHOULD feel right. But that is my own silly opinion. In any case, I have to hand the award to Tim Burton on all counts.
The irony is Christopher Lee played Dracula and he's a dentist does anyone else need to point this out I mean seriously
MetaStar and Count Dooku...
The Organizer127
And Saruman
Great, now I’m imaging Mr. Lee as a Sith Vampire Wizard who’s also a dentist.
glad to see a positive review on this i always like watching bobshaux for pointing out the good things
It's an alright film, but I blame it for revamping the worst fetish ever conceived.
Oh dear God...
Am i stupid, what fetish?
Look up blueberry inflation, you'll be disgusted instantly.
o_0
Forest Bug Honestly this probably did start the inflation fetish.
Gluttony? Greed? Pride? Violence?
These 4 kids are embodiments of 4 sins!
My guess was that Tim Burton knew he couldn't top the original tunnel scene.
I love this review i'm glad to see someone is standing up for this movie
Am I the only one who hoped that Christopher Lee should have been replaced as Steve Martin from "Little Shop Of Horrors" in the flashbacks?
8:38 "Then this happens" is the best way to describe this scene.
As much as I liked and still like this movie, I've always hated this one scene. Though, I do understand why it was put in.
Deep Roy played most of the Oompa Loompas. It took many hours of filming and editing. Anything he wasn't quite able to do by himself, like the boat scene, was filled in by an animatronic.
When I see Wonka's theme I always think of that one scene from Shrek when they enter Farquad's kingdom XD
"Sometimes a movie can just be candy"... 🤔
That is lovely.
i love the 2005 version
Interesting fact: Tim's dedication to authenticity made them record the one oompa loompa actor in every position in the scene, and then cgi all the takes into one scene. Imagine how long that must've taken.
Which is why they paid him TEN TIMES the salary he'd be given if he was only one of an entourage of little people. O_O lol
Bobsheaux I honestly didn't expect you to reply. Thanks! 😁
can you do a review on the thief and the cobbler
its not really a sing-along movie, even Miramax's crappy version doesn't have enough songs for that.
Maybe another time.
+Travis De La Fuente I'm hoping he does both versions, because the Miamax version deserves to be torn apart for how it pretty much butchered the director's original vision.
Tony Koslowski
you can also see the Nostalgia Critic review of it :3
Nostalgia Critic does the Miramax version not the Recobbled Cut
That singing tho LOL i like it Bob
this is the best review of this movie i've seen yet, really thought through and funny! great job
"I was frozen today!" Oh man, that line will forever be great for awkward situations XD
I love how positive this review is compared to the others one's I've seen. It's very refreshing. I don't care what other people think, I loved this movie, it inspired so much wonder in me as a kid. And no Nostalgia Critic review on it is going to change that 😋