+WilesTheDragonTrainer Newton: I hope everyone brought their instruments for the Christmas orchestra! Patrick the Snowman: Is Christmas Snow an instrument? Newton: No Patrick. Christmas Snow is not an instrument. Patrick: (Raises his hand) Newton: Corn Starch is not an instrument either. Patrick: (Raises his hand again) Newton: and neither is the Triforce!
I thought of something else! Connecting the parent to Frosty's original story could've worked! Tommy's mother should have been Karen, the little girl who built Frosty! When he never returned to her for whatever reason, maybe her family moving or his other adventures derailing him or something, Karen lost faith in him and went on to marry Tommy's dad, eventually giving Frosty up. She then watches as Frosty interacts with people in town and secretly wants to join in, but is afraid of being let down again like she was the first time and restrains herself from seeking him out. I'd have loved to see Karen again, even if it meant doing a reunion as an adult. It would be canon and make more sense than what's his face the mayor
Jennifer Ellison personally, I thought that Karen was Tommy’s mother, but then that would make Theodore (the boy who was the magician Professor Hinkle’s son) her cousin since Hinkle was Karen’s uncle, I think, so that can’t be right either. So they cut out Karen entirely!? For shame movie! For shame!
I remember seeing this on Cartoon Network years back, and wondered what it even had to do with the original at all. I mean, at least "Rudolph and the Island of Misfit Toys" had connection to the original, this is more Frosty "In-name-only" than Frosty's Return was. We basically have a pro-anarchist snowman that claims that he's Frosty and goes against the authoritarian establishment of a psuedo-1950's community. I dunno, but I have no clue what the heck the people who made this movie were thinking, you could call the snowman something else and nothing would change, it would still be a very confused movie.
I know right? At least Frosty Returns had some connection to the original movie.(Granted, that one wasn't the best either but I rather watch that one than The Legend Of Frosty ever again.) Though out of all the movies I haven't seen the actual sequel to Frosty The Snowman though I don't know where I could find it.
@@SuperGamer61499 Do you mind explaining how Frosty Returns is connected to the original special? (Besides the special being narrated by a celebrity) Because I'm not convinced that it has anything to do with the original If you're interested in watching the actual sequel to Frosty the Snowman it's currently airing on AMC it's called Frosty's Winter Wonderland
When you got to the part where you said that Frosty was Pennywise the Clown, I almost expected you to go "Excuse me, mam! Is your refrigerator running?! It is?! Well you better catch it before it runs away!"
I would like a Frosty special where the kids lived in a gloomy town full of technology and rules much like our world, but some kids decided to build Frosty and he comes to life cheering all the kids up and making their Christmas more meaningful. There can be the town deciding to stop being so cold and empty and change for the better because of Frosty. Maybe Frosty can help the kids with their problems with their parents, like what this movie was trying to do. I like the idea of this movie that Frosty makes people and their way of living different, it’s a positive form of anarchy like Cat in the Hat. But nope, this movie had to be an edgy 50s style story about oppression and fascism. Which doesn’t sound like Frosty at all. I like tackling a more mature idea but some things just don’t mix.
I like the idea of Professor Hinkle having a family. Needing to make money for his wife and child would put his actions in the 1969 special in a different light.
Actually, I could buy Sarah living way out there by the end of the movie. Given Tommy's age, it's safe to say she's pretty old too, so this means she's most likely retired and living quietly elsewhere. Maybe got sick of the city life or something. My small praise ends there though
Yeah, I knew this movie wasn't going to be all that good going into the review, but it's way worse then I remembered it being. Then again, I also didn't think Grandma Got Ran Over By A Reindeer wasn't that bad until I rewatched it as a teen and realized just how bad that movie was.
Neo Anderson butt, lightyeerz iz a meazure of distence, nut tiyme. Even though this isn't time and no one gives a shit what light years is a measure of.
I think the point of Frosty attempting to find Mayor Tinkerton before Principal Penkley takes over Evergreen is that with Tinkerton still as mayor, Frosty has a chance of coaxing him to become more relaxed and make the town's regulations more liberal. With Penkley in power, on the other hand, nobody has the prospect of getting him to deviate from his ideology or his authoritarian objective.
It wasn't just Karen who built Frosty, all the schoolchildren helped in building. She was the one to put the hat on him and proclaim the hat was magic.
22:20 A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL CAN'T DO THAT. 1) There needs to be a GOOD reason to dismiss a mayor (i.e. he committed a crime) 2) After that I'm pretty sure either a public election needs to take place or the next runner up (Definitely NOT a school principal) will step up be in charge until the next election term. 3) In the grand scheme of things, PRINCIPALS HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER. All they is their school. And even then the school district is what comes up with school rules and funding. 4) There are also more than just one school per city. EVEN in the fifties! So what's stopping a principal from a different school from saying "Hey, you're the same rank as me. Why do YOU get to take over as mayor?"
The art style looks more like a blend of _Ed, Edd, n' Eddy_ with a few Fox Family original cartoons from the late 90's than Rankin-Bass' 2D animation. So seeing Frosty in his original RB style kinda clashes with everyone. Also, this December? I DARE you to look at _Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny_: it makes _Saving Christmas_ look like a Capra movie.
I think I know what why this movie doesn't acknowledges any of the previous Frosty movies: It's a reboot. Think about it, as you said in your Legends of The Dark Knight #1 Review, this movie starts from scratch and treats the other treatments of this series never happened. And just like the New 52, it totally fails to understand what the main character is about. 28:58 Maybe Sara did realize her dream of being an urban developer, then after many successful years she and Tommy decide to move to the forest after their retirement? Did that ever occur to you? PS, I'm surprised you didn't make a single Frozen joke during this entire month.
I know these voice actors have been in other things, but it's seriously distracting hearing Frosty being voiced by Bill Fagerbakke(Patrick Star's voice actor). I almost expected Frosty to tell Walter "When in doubt, pinky out" when they were going back home :P
You know, a story of Frosty the Snowman returning to the original group of kids, now all grown up and Frosty playing with their kids, and indirectly those old kids rediscover the magic of childhood, that would be a really fun story.
This movie needs to be renamed! "The Legend of the Most Fucked Up Town which has No Other Purpose than to Symbolise Conformity in the Most Contrived Way Possible! Oh yeah, Frosty's in this movie, too. Figured you wouldn't notice that."
ProbeVoyages Wouldn't that technically be conforming to a formula for children's media since they HAVE to do it? This movie is nothing but all-around conformity.
ThatEmoGamer It's the kind of conformity that pretends it's breaking conformity, like an ad that tells you using a certain product makes you "individual".
+Shy Gigyas Clipboard of Order, come to my hands! I, the mayor, command it! Clipboard, clipboard, clipboard, clipboard notes, HO! Edit: I looked it up. It's a different Tom Kenny. I feel much better now. (I'm not a fan of Spongebob. Sorry. XD)
Nah. The animation looks better then the average Good Times film(not that that's saying much) and Good Times (AFAIK) wouldn't get recognizable voice actors like Tom Kenny and Tara Strong.
Hey Bobsheaux, regarding Sara Simple, it is possible that since they were old and grey haired, it could be just as easy to assume that she merely retired from Urban Design, as we never saw her and Tommy’s younger adult years when they were in their prime.
I got to rewatch the original Frosty the Snowman last Christmas. Still holds up well and just goes to show Rankin Bass makes the best Christmas specials
Ok I liked this as a kid but as an adult.... This doesn't hold up the slightest. The animation is ok. The voice acting isn't awful. But I think the biggest problem is frosty himself. Even as a kid I thought that voice didn't suit frosty. I know at least 3 voice actors that are better suited for it.
This is one reason why I don't like remakes and sequels, especially if they're made 20+ years after the original, and the original voices are gone. They almost never get the voices to sound close to the original.
In my opinion they don't always need to sound like the original to be good. I just watched all the Frosty films this year, and honestly I liked his voice in every single one of them. People tend to like more the voices they're used to, but it's different when you're not used to any of them :D
Darn. I constantly think that this movie is the one where Frosty preaches about the dangers of aerosol cans, the kids go from loving snow to hating snow days within minutes, and the adults that don't want the roads to be dangerous and icy are antagonized. Plus, the main character's best friend asks her if she wants to build a fertility goddess with him and if that moment doesn't scream "must be a Bobsheaux," I don't know what does. (Btw, the movie I was thinking of was actually Frosty Returns for anyone curious)
Gotta love these movies that make fun of how up-tight and fundamentalist the '50s were while still including token black and Hispanic characters, even though you often didn't start seeing people of colour in the suburbs until the '80s and '90s.
It's like the Symbiote from spiderman, combined with the mask from the mask, it'll slowly consume and take over your mind till there's nothing left... At least that's what the hat said... Wait!
You know what's funny, I actually remember watching this movie a long time ago. I specifically remember my sister telling me that the voice of Frosty is the same guy as Patrick Star. I think I actually used to like this special when I was younger.......oh how times have changed
I remember even as a kid I was so confused by the alternate stylization and gaping continuity errors. You know how people joke about sequels by saying things like "whoever made this didn't even watch the original first"? I'm tempted to believe that was actually the case for this movie. If they'd meant for it to be a reboot with no ties to the original then at least they would've had some semblance of an excuse, but the fact that this was literally intended as a SEQUEL is just mind-boggling.
It just occurred to me. All those scenes of underreacting to Frosty (the windows etc) could have worked just fine. But they needed to establish him first. Give an extra scene where he introduces himself, shows off his abilities, etc, make it so the kids KNOW him. THEN thoe oddball reactions would have been just fine.
I swear, the designs in this movie have such an Allen Gregory vibe to it but without nearly all of the ugliness that series had. Wouldn't be surprised if it were the same designer.
I swear, I can't take this Frosty seriously because as Bob pointed out, every time he speaks all I can think about is Patrick talking. It cracks me up.
Why does this movie look like it takes place in the same reality as the series "I got a Rocket"? I find it hillarious that the girl who doesn't want to be a Princess is voiced by Twilight Sparkle. And they ripped off the ending to "The Town that Santa forgot". This movie is as if some watched Frosty the Snowman and listened to Pink Floyds "The Wall" at the same time while high.
What you fail to realize is that this takes place in a parallel universe. The original title was STARFISH INTO DARKNESS, which partially explains the voice.
7: 53 Starch is not a food group, and corn does not contain starch! Corn is a grass! If you must be a stuck up snob, get your facts straight first! (Edit: I should specify that yes, it does contain starch, but not as other starch filled foods. It is a chemical reaction that occurs within the kernels when energy is converted into fat. Also, corn starch does not break down in the body like potato or other starch does, and most of it passes through our bodies undigested. That is why it cannot be labeled as a starchy food for dietary purposes. This is what I meant, but its not clear, so I decided to specify before I got a thousand links to corn starch cans.) 8:15 Any family that neurotic about details would never stack dishes in the sink like that to begin with, and when it came time to clean them, they would say to wash the dishes (thoroughly), not rinse them. Also, that kitchen setup is entirely too chaotic to belong to someone like that. Again, if you're going to have a neurotic character, do it right! 8:55 Why is kidnapping such a common theme in bad children's movies? 11:04 I paused here to get dinner, and I come back to see that face. He looks confused, annoyed, and stoned. Good work, animators! 13:40 Okay, look. This trick isn't done much anymore and almost everybody knows how its done. That doesn't mean that you have to ruin a perfectly good trick for every young person in the audience with such a pointless scene! I despise it when cartoons ruin jokes or tricks that could evoke wonder and inspiration for them if they saw it done properly, but ends up being a non-entity that passes them by with barely a notice because of how haphazardly and sloppily it is presented. THIS is a large part of what is ruining the magic and wonder of childhood! 15:15 Yep! He's the only one not breaking the rules...by being in a basement obviously hidden away for its creative contents left to rot. If you're going to have a setup, use it! 15:30 What is it with children's movies having some of the worst people? I should not hate someone so much from just one line. 17:30 NOBODY IS THIS NEUROTIC! For the record, if they were so anal-retentive, they would also have a problem with wasting paper each day to write out their habits that they would have memorized! I'm not expecting children's cartoon creators to major in psychology, but I do expect them to draw inspiration from real life. This guy isn't even one dimensional-he's nonsensical! 18:38 O_O 20:42 Oh, my gravy! "Kali-ma!" 20:53 See? We were on the same wavelength! That is not a good sign for a children's movie when a scene evokes imagery from a horrific scene from another movie so easily! 21:06 And then Frosty kills all the kids in an avalanche, the mayor goes mad and starts strangling people that break the rules, and the town devolves into chaos and despair. ...What? Doesn't that feel like what the movie has been building up to all this time? 21:21 See? It's not just me! (This is a really disturbing cartoon.) This is why it is important to watch these movies and not just stick some random movie in to entertain your children. That and quality time with them, of course.
Even with all the Christmas specials I have seen, I dont ever recall seeing this one. Nice find there Bob and I can already see the pain you experienced with it.
Stephen Brown Old comment, but Danny Phantom never really had a comic book based on him. Unless you're referring to the episode of Reality Trip of when Danny gets pushed into a stand that have books of him. That was pretty much a joke, plus unlike this film who had Frosty write the story of himself in a Never-ending Story style, Danny didn't make those comics. He had become popular enough to have fans that write fanfic comics. So yeah, I'm still a DP phan so I thought I put in my two cents. lol
We there was a comic book if you watched one of the fairly odd parents episode that featured the pilot episode of crash nebula,if you looked the episode closely you see the main character crash nebula reading a comic book that has the title Danny Phantom
I always saw that chaotic opening as more a warning for how if you blindly follow the guidelines you might miss whats right in front of you; like if the kids weren't being forced to march in single file like they were in the dang army the ensuing domino effect probably wouldn't have happened..
13:34 "Dad, stop bringing women stuffed in boxes into my room!" "But son, I need to cut her in half in front of you!" I like the serial killer vibe this scene can give off if you ignore the fact he's a magician. To be fair, Frosty the Snowman's club is pretty much a cult.
I saw this on Netflix a few months ago. It was so bad it was good. I laughed a lot and watched it again after I told my friends about it. We all laughed! Thanks for the review! This was funnier than the movie!
So, the original Frosty the Snowman Rankin/Bass cartoon had a story where Karen builds a snowman with her friends, named him Frosty, puts the iconic magic old silk hat on him (Happy Birthdaaaaaaaay!) and risking her own life going to the North Pole with Frosty with big success with Santa taking Karen home and Frosty to the North Pole. Frosty’s Winter Wonderland is not a sequel nor is Rudolph and Frosty’s Winter in July because there’s no Karen (Thanks a lot, Rankin/Bass and Warner Bros!). Frosty Returns is just a spin-off because Frosty wears a BOWTIE!!! And Karen just appears on the front cover of the comic book with a different look thus making her appearance in this UNOFFICIAL!!! (Windows Ta-Da) Must Be A Bobsheaux!
So many missed opportunities with this movie! They should have had Principal Pankley be a descendant of Burgermeister Meisterburger or something. And where was Karen?
Or Karen sacrificed herself, causing history to erase her from everyone's minds, thus saving the Rankin Bass-verse from the evil Live Action Year Without A Santa Claus. Or something.
Honestly, the only reason why I recently gained a slight amount of admiration for this movie is because I found out that "As Told by Ginger" creator Emily Kapnek was behind it. She's usually a great writer, but I question just how much she really knew about the original 1969 special. And that's not the only connection "The Legend of Frosty the Snowman" has with "Ginger". If you go on the IMDb pages of both productions, you'll find out that they share a lot of voice actors, thanks to casting director Barbara Wright. For example, the guy who voices Walter in this special voiced Darren Patterson. Oh, and Jared Faber does the music for both, as well. Yeah, I know I'm a nerd.
So my brother has this thing where he gets, what can only say as obsessed, with something for like several weeks. So from 7 am to 11 pm the thing he would do the most was watch this. Lets just say it burned into my brain quite deep.
Ages ago I wrote a parody of the first verse or so of the song, called "Frosty the Golem," in which a rabbi's kids made a golem out of dirty snow... I offer the idea to any animation studio wanting to do a new take on Frosty for a Hanukkah special, but I don't think anyone would do it. Maybe that's just as well.
I will admit, Pankley is drawn to look super evil, especially with that giant, creepy smile. In a better story, he would have made an amazing villain. I mean just look at 24:50. Terrifying.
As a young kid during school we were shown this movie around Christmas and after frosty fell through the ice they paused it.(I couldn't find it because I did not have the title) For years now I've never known what happened to frosty and now I know. (and remember how bad this movie is)
3:55 "... there are no accidents." Actually, the very well-known philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre stated this. Explaining what he meant is too much for a RUclips comment, but information on this can be found online.
The whole film would've been better if the plot were this: Frosty just wants to make the kids into better people, since he knows they'll grow up to do great things. He helps the kids become brave, independent, etc, by helping them face their fears and stand up for themselves. Cut out the 50's stereotypes and just have it be about Frosty changing the kids for the better. And like everyone has said, the mom should have been Karen as a way to tie it to the original special.
I remember watching this when I was little and confused why they change the story of how frosty came to life and the new voice actor for frosty does sound like Patrick star from spongebob
I need to be honest here, my whole reason for watching The Legend of Frosty the Snowman is actually because it had two of my favorite voice actors: Kath Soucie and Tom Kenny, together. The reason why I like Kath Soucie is because of a 30-minute special about The Little Engine That Could where Kath played the Star Engine, and because of a show about Sonic the Hedgehog where Kath played Sonic's love interest. And I like Tom Kenny because of SpongeBob, Eduardo from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and The Ice King from Adventure Time. So when I see one of those rare projects that has both voice actors working together, it feels like a dream come true. In this project, Kath Soucie voices Tommy Tinkerton, and Tom Kenny voices his father. This feels like the most actor-on-actor time Kath and Tom have had together to me, and I love it! But does this mean I like The Legend of Frosty the Snowman as actual entertainment? That is hard to answer. I have seen the original 1969 project and even Frosty Returns as a child, but I don't consider myself an outright FAN of Frosty the Snowman. And I don't feel like denying that Bob Thomas has made multiple good points about those few parts that don't make much sense. The townspeople feel too rule-loving to be believable, I do wish Tommy had more screen time with Frosty, Frosty in particular has a couple of differences from his 1969 past-self, and how can a tidal wave possibly be made out of snow? But on the other hand, besides Kath Soucie and Tom Kenny, the other voice actors also give a good performance, and it does feel like a relief to see the townspeople engaging in more fun after all this depressing boredom. And considering it was Tommy who got the hat out of the guarding thing, I hesitate to say Tommy did "nothing important". I'm not going to tell people to go out of their way to watch this, but it still feels kind of harmless. In fact, since Frosty Returns makes no mention of Christmas at all, I don't find it farfetched to say this project is not supposed to be a Christmas project anyway.
A Miser Brothers Christmas was most at faithful sequel to A year Without A Santa Claus unlike both Frosty and Rudolph's post-Rankin/Bass sequels which were Rudolph & the Island of Misfit Toys and The Legend of Frosty the Snowman.
I remember watching this movie on Cartoon Network back in the day. Also, the broadcast that I watched was followed by that Looney Tunes Christmas Carol. This was either 2005 or 2006. This movie came out in 2005. Since Frosty Returns came out in 1995, couldn't they have brought back John Goodman as the voice of Frosty? He played Frosty in Frosty Returns.
So Patrick is Frosty, and the mayor is Spongebob...
all we need now is mr krabs
Clancy Brown should have been the villain...... XD
+the masked reviewer Hello! I like being in shite movies! And money!
+WilesTheDragonTrainer
Newton: I hope everyone brought their instruments for the Christmas orchestra!
Patrick the Snowman: Is Christmas Snow an instrument?
Newton: No Patrick. Christmas Snow is not an instrument.
Patrick: (Raises his hand)
Newton: Corn Starch is not an instrument either.
Patrick: (Raises his hand again)
Newton: and neither is the Triforce!
+homesponge i know that I've seen a talking snowman and I've only cryed 20002 times
I thought of something else! Connecting the parent to Frosty's original story could've worked! Tommy's mother should have been Karen, the little girl who built Frosty! When he never returned to her for whatever reason, maybe her family moving or his other adventures derailing him or something, Karen lost faith in him and went on to marry Tommy's dad, eventually giving Frosty up. She then watches as Frosty interacts with people in town and secretly wants to join in, but is afraid of being let down again like she was the first time and restrains herself from seeking him out. I'd have loved to see Karen again, even if it meant doing a reunion as an adult. It would be canon and make more sense than what's his face the mayor
Jennifer Ellison personally, I thought that Karen was Tommy’s mother, but then that would make Theodore (the boy who was the magician Professor Hinkle’s son) her cousin since Hinkle was Karen’s uncle, I think, so that can’t be right either. So they cut out Karen entirely!? For shame movie! For shame!
@Dylan Sharp It's our head canon.
Since Karen created Frosty, is she technically his mother?
That would’ve been SOOOOO much better
Even the late Burt Reynolds did a fine job telling the story.
"Is this the Krusty Krab?"
"No, this is Frosty!"
I was hoping that Karen as an adult would make an appearance in this movie, but nope. She's not even Tommy's mother...
actually i think that's for the best, would you want something good to be ruined in this shit?
No now that you mention it.
@@BenLogterman I thought this was just another telling, which is why she wasn't in it.
Which brings up a question, why couldn't Karen be the mother? This shouldn't be that hard to tie in.
This film feels like a child wrote a script after watching "Pleasantville," and wanted to include Frosty the snowman, for some odd reason.
That kind of screw up.
For me I would just stick to 1969 special instead
*I DEFY YOU, SNOWMAN!*
Tara Strong: I don't want to be a princess..... Oh, the irony later.
OH MY GOD
... Oh my god ._.
Technically she only became a princess because the lore demanded it.
More like because the toy sales demanded it, Thomas.
Technically the toys wouldn't have been a thing if plot hadn't demanded it.
I remember seeing this on Cartoon Network years back, and wondered what it even had to do with the original at all. I mean, at least "Rudolph and the Island of Misfit Toys" had connection to the original, this is more Frosty "In-name-only" than Frosty's Return was. We basically have a pro-anarchist snowman that claims that he's Frosty and goes against the authoritarian establishment of a psuedo-1950's community.
I dunno, but I have no clue what the heck the people who made this movie were thinking, you could call the snowman something else and nothing would change, it would still be a very confused movie.
I know right? At least Frosty Returns had some connection to the original movie.(Granted, that one wasn't the best either but I rather watch that one than The Legend Of Frosty ever again.) Though out of all the movies I haven't seen the actual sequel to Frosty The Snowman though I don't know where I could find it.
I remember watching this as a kid and love watching it.
Frosty's Winter Wonderland has the largest connection to the original of them all.
Mabye this is a reboot?
@@SuperGamer61499 Do you mind explaining how Frosty Returns is connected to the original special? (Besides the special being narrated by a celebrity) Because I'm not convinced that it has anything to do with the original
If you're interested in watching the actual sequel to Frosty the Snowman it's currently airing on AMC it's called Frosty's Winter Wonderland
Loki the Snowman was a sneaky, plotting soul...
With a pointy stick and scarred up face and 2 eyes made out of hel
The Principal would be Thanos
Loki the snowman, was conniving as he could be
Actually it's Frostywise
The hat. It floats. It FLOATS. And when you play with me YOU'LL FLOAT TOO!!!
When you got to the part where you said that Frosty was Pennywise the Clown, I almost expected you to go "Excuse me, mam! Is your refrigerator running?! It is?! Well you better catch it before it runs away!"
Helloo
I'm Tim Curry the Clown
I have a floating fetish
They all float down here...
Waha! Waha! Waha!
To be fair about Sarah and Tom living out in the woods at the end, she could still have been an urban developer and they're both retired now.
Or they bought their house and she just commuted into the city.
I would like a Frosty special where the kids lived in a gloomy town full of technology and rules much like our world, but some kids decided to build Frosty and he comes to life cheering all the kids up and making their Christmas more meaningful. There can be the town deciding to stop being so cold and empty and change for the better because of Frosty. Maybe Frosty can help the kids with their problems with their parents, like what this movie was trying to do. I like the idea of this movie that Frosty makes people and their way of living different, it’s a positive form of anarchy like Cat in the Hat. But nope, this movie had to be an edgy 50s style story about oppression and fascism. Which doesn’t sound like Frosty at all. I like tackling a more mature idea but some things just don’t mix.
Hey, wait. This could actually be an awesome fanfiction. Tell me more...
I like the idea of Professor Hinkle having a family. Needing to make money for his wife and child would put his actions in the 1969 special in a different light.
Actually, I could buy Sarah living way out there by the end of the movie. Given Tommy's age, it's safe to say she's pretty old too, so this means she's most likely retired and living quietly elsewhere. Maybe got sick of the city life or something. My small praise ends there though
7:52 CORN ISN'T A STARCH, IT'S A GRAAAAIN!!!
It's a grass too! (See RiffTrax-riffed short film.)
No Frosty. Corn is not an instrument.
Corn Is So Delicious!
+ProbeVoyages Yep! As far as cultivation and growth, it is a grass, and as far as nutritional labeling, it is a grain.
Apparently it's also a weapon.
PATRICK! WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE?!
Actually they moved Double Weenie Wednesday to Thursday
And besides today’s Sunday.
@@roberttreacy8271 BARNACLES!!!
Super Weenie Hut Jr.’s has a Mega Weenie Monday.
Holy shit, this movie is LIGHT YEARS cringier than I remembered it.
I remember Cartoon Network playing this sh** many eons ago.
+ENRAGEMediaCorp this version of frosty was so weird and awkward to watch as fuck 😳
I feel you.
Yeah, I knew this movie wasn't going to be all that good going into the review, but it's way worse then I remembered it being.
Then again, I also didn't think Grandma Got Ran Over By A Reindeer wasn't that bad until I rewatched it as a teen and realized just how bad that movie was.
Neo Anderson butt, lightyeerz iz a meazure of distence, nut tiyme. Even though this isn't time and no one gives a shit what light years is a measure of.
I think the point of Frosty attempting to find Mayor Tinkerton before Principal Penkley takes over Evergreen is that with Tinkerton still as mayor, Frosty has a chance of coaxing him to become more relaxed and make the town's regulations more liberal. With Penkley in power, on the other hand, nobody has the prospect of getting him to deviate from his ideology or his authoritarian objective.
Those characters belong in a 50s cereal commercial.
It wasn't just Karen who built Frosty, all the schoolchildren helped in building. She was the one to put the hat on him and proclaim the hat was magic.
Which technically, the hat was. Cause you know...Magician
22:20 A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL CAN'T DO THAT.
1) There needs to be a GOOD reason to dismiss a mayor (i.e. he committed a crime)
2) After that I'm pretty sure either a public election needs to take place or the next runner up (Definitely NOT a school principal) will step up be in charge until the next election term.
3) In the grand scheme of things, PRINCIPALS HAVE VERY LITTLE POWER. All they is their school. And even then the school district is what comes up with school rules and funding.
4) There are also more than just one school per city. EVEN in the fifties! So what's stopping a principal from a different school from saying "Hey, you're the same rank as me. Why do YOU get to take over as mayor?"
Yeah, that was pretty stupid! He could’ve just entered an election race, and truly proved an opponent for Mayor Tinkerton
It’s likely that he gets fired as principal at the end of the film
Sure he can, he just seized power in a coup d'dtat because he's a fucking facist!!!
The art style looks more like a blend of _Ed, Edd, n' Eddy_ with a few Fox Family original cartoons from the late 90's than Rankin-Bass' 2D animation. So seeing Frosty in his original RB style kinda clashes with everyone.
Also, this December?
I DARE you to look at _Santa Claus and the Ice Cream Bunny_: it makes _Saving Christmas_ look like a Capra movie.
I know this is 6 years too late, but it's got to be done with the Rifftrax.
I think I know what why this movie doesn't acknowledges any of the previous Frosty movies: It's a reboot. Think about it, as you said in your Legends of The Dark Knight #1 Review, this movie starts from scratch and treats the other treatments of this series never happened. And just like the New 52, it totally fails to understand what the main character is about.
28:58 Maybe Sara did realize her dream of being an urban developer, then after many successful years she and Tommy decide to move to the forest after their retirement? Did that ever occur to you?
PS, I'm surprised you didn't make a single Frozen joke during this entire month.
I know these voice actors have been in other things, but it's seriously distracting hearing Frosty being voiced by Bill Fagerbakke(Patrick Star's voice actor). I almost expected Frosty to tell Walter "When in doubt, pinky out" when they were going back home :P
And the mayor is Tom Kenny
Tommy is voiced by Kath Soucie who is best known for the Voice of Lola Bunny in Space Jam and Princess Sally Acorn in Sonic Satam
He seriously phoned it in. At least Tom Kenney wasn't distracting.
This special was a huge waste of talent. Bill Fagerbakke, Grey Griffin, Tom Kenny, Kath Soucie, Tara Strong, etc. They all deserved better than this.
You know, a story of Frosty the Snowman returning to the original group of kids, now all grown up and Frosty playing with their kids, and indirectly those old kids rediscover the magic of childhood, that would be a really fun story.
Yeah, that would be better than this mess.
This movie needs to be renamed!
"The Legend of the Most Fucked Up Town which has No Other Purpose than to Symbolise Conformity in the Most Contrived Way Possible! Oh yeah, Frosty's in this movie, too. Figured you wouldn't notice that."
lol.
That title conforms to the movie though! They had to choose a title that didn't fit the theme for absolutely no reason but to break conformity!
ProbeVoyages Wouldn't that technically be conforming to a formula for children's media since they HAVE to do it?
This movie is nothing but all-around conformity.
ThatEmoGamer
It's the kind of conformity that pretends it's breaking conformity, like an ad that tells you using a certain product makes you "individual".
Kath Soucie? Tara Strong? Burk Reynolds? You're all better than this!
+Shy Gigyas Clipboard of Order, come to my hands! I, the mayor, command it! Clipboard, clipboard, clipboard, clipboard notes, HO!
Edit: I looked it up. It's a different Tom Kenny. I feel much better now. (I'm not a fan of Spongebob. Sorry. XD)
Good thing I'm not the only one who noticed that.
Also Grey DeLisle (sorry if I misspelled her name).
Bill Fagerbakke.
I’m not going to answer
gulp no way yuck
Bad animation? Bad Story? Lack of Continuity? Did anybody think that this movie was made by Good Times Entertainment?
Lol!
Nah. The animation looks better then the average Good Times film(not that that's saying much) and Good Times (AFAIK) wouldn't get recognizable voice actors like Tom Kenny and Tara Strong.
@@ScottPillgram20 But GoodTimes got Jeff freakin' Bennett.
Hey Bobsheaux, regarding Sara Simple, it is possible that since they were old and grey haired, it could be just as easy to assume that she merely retired from Urban Design, as we never saw her and Tommy’s younger adult years when they were in their prime.
You'd think, as an anti-SJW, that Bobsheaux would realise that married women can work.
I got to rewatch the original Frosty the Snowman last Christmas. Still holds up well and just goes to show Rankin Bass makes the best Christmas specials
I can't stop laughing at Frosty's voice. It reminds me too much of Patrick.
It's because he is voiced by the same guy!
Patrick if he had godlike power over all things wet.
I actually like it :D
Ur right 😂😂😂
Patrick the snowman
Ok I liked this as a kid but as an adult.... This doesn't hold up the slightest. The animation is ok. The voice acting isn't awful. But I think the biggest problem is frosty himself. Even as a kid I thought that voice didn't suit frosty. I know at least 3 voice actors that are better suited for it.
Michael Nally jim cummings jeff bennet or dee bradley bradley baker could voiced him.
This is one reason why I don't like remakes and sequels, especially if they're made 20+ years after the original, and the original voices are gone. They almost never get the voices to sound close to the original.
In my opinion they don't always need to sound like the original to be good. I just watched all the Frosty films this year, and honestly I liked his voice in every single one of them.
People tend to like more the voices they're used to, but it's different when you're not used to any of them :D
Darn. I constantly think that this movie is the one where Frosty preaches about the dangers of aerosol cans, the kids go from loving snow to hating snow days within minutes, and the adults that don't want the roads to be dangerous and icy are antagonized. Plus, the main character's best friend asks her if she wants to build a fertility goddess with him and if that moment doesn't scream "must be a Bobsheaux," I don't know what does. (Btw, the movie I was thinking of was actually Frosty Returns for anyone curious)
When did Frosty become a rebel without a cause?
Definitely Catherine What's he rebelling against?
Much like the movie, I don't know.
5:27 Tara? Tara, is that you? What are you doing here?
It IS Tara :D
Foreshadowing Magical Mystery Cure.
Minty Root I liked that episode. It's certainly better than this piece of junk movie!
Tara? Like in Tara Strong ? The voice of Twilight Sparkle, Harley Quinn, Juliet Starling?
Raven, Hello Kitty, not-Lemmy (aka Hip), girl from Zombie Island...
I HATED this movie. We watched it Geometry class and honestly, I would've preferred doing Pythagorean Theorem all period than sit through this.
yeah, Maths would put less strain on your eyes, ears, and brain cells than this garbage.
I can understand math like Pythagorean Theorem a lot better
i loved it
Now it’s funny bc frosty is voiced as patrick from spongebob
I wouldn't have minded I would have just taken a nap.
This feels more like a MAD parody than an actual movie about Frosty
"Frosty the Snowman is NOT the Neverending Story!!"
Well, if this review is to be believed, then Frosty...
Frosty never changes.
9:09 I love that “Huh?” reaction Bob did.
Gotta love these movies that make fun of how up-tight and fundamentalist the '50s were while still including token black and Hispanic characters, even though you often didn't start seeing people of colour in the suburbs until the '80s and '90s.
The Frosty is IT theory is my new favourite random film theory. Thank you for this.
18:56
So if the hat is sentient, what happens if you put the hat on your head?
...........I'm scared.
Makes me think of the Goof Troop episode with the evil hat.
It's like the Symbiote from spiderman, combined with the mask from the mask, it'll slowly consume and take over your mind till there's nothing left... At least that's what the hat said... Wait!
There was a Bugs Bunny cartoon with hats landing on Bugs' and Elmer's heads and changing their behavior temporarily...
There's nothing in your head the Frosty Hat can't see!
You get the plot of Meet the Robinsons
frosty is "IT", so he should really be called Frostywise the dancing snow
You know what's funny, I actually remember watching this movie a long time ago. I specifically remember my sister telling me that the voice of Frosty is the same guy as Patrick Star. I think I actually used to like this special when I was younger.......oh how times have changed
I remember even as a kid I was so confused by the alternate stylization and gaping continuity errors. You know how people joke about sequels by saying things like "whoever made this didn't even watch the original first"? I'm tempted to believe that was actually the case for this movie. If they'd meant for it to be a reboot with no ties to the original then at least they would've had some semblance of an excuse, but the fact that this was literally intended as a SEQUEL is just mind-boggling.
It just occurred to me. All those scenes of underreacting to Frosty (the windows etc) could have worked just fine. But they needed to establish him first. Give an extra scene where he introduces himself, shows off his abilities, etc, make it so the kids KNOW him. THEN thoe oddball reactions would have been just fine.
I find it funny that Tommy has the voice of Phil from Rugrats
I swear, the designs in this movie have such an Allen Gregory vibe to it but without nearly all of the ugliness that series had. Wouldn't be surprised if it were the same designer.
I swear, I can't take this Frosty seriously because as Bob pointed out, every time he speaks all I can think about is Patrick talking. It cracks me up.
" A little girl builds a snowman and brings him to life, they become friends..."
Insert your own Frozen joke here.
Dude no, just let it go.
Can't hold those jokes back anymore.
Was probably the frost joke that came to mind, no need for the cold shoulder.
I have heard this joke for the first time in forever.
The fandom never bothered me anyway
Why does this movie look like it takes place in the same reality as the series "I got a Rocket"?
I find it hillarious that the girl who doesn't want to be a Princess is voiced by Twilight Sparkle.
And they ripped off the ending to "The Town that Santa forgot". This movie is as if some watched Frosty the Snowman and listened to Pink Floyds "The Wall" at the same time while high.
"Parents are to ask no questions"? I think we need a sonic says here.
1. XD "i don't want to be a princess!" says twilight sparkle
2. you me and the clipboard tonight... Must be a bobsheaux!
theres only one thing that comes to mind after hearing Bill Fagerbakke as frosty in this movie.
.....FINLAND!!!!
Everyone notices Frosty is Patrick, but not that Mr. Tinkerton is SpongeBob.
I noticed
Hearing a lot of big names in this; Tom Kenny, Kat Soucie, Tara Strong.
Also for some reason this reminds me of Alan Gregory...
Maybe Sara wanted to design urban spaces to live in, but wanted to live in a log cabin once she retired.
What you fail to realize is that this takes place in a parallel universe. The original title was STARFISH INTO DARKNESS, which partially explains the voice.
Takes place in Star Trek’s Kelvin timeline too
7: 53 Starch is not a food group, and corn does not contain starch! Corn is a grass! If you must be a stuck up snob, get your facts straight first!
(Edit: I should specify that yes, it does contain starch, but not as other starch filled foods. It is a chemical reaction that occurs within the kernels when energy is converted into fat. Also, corn starch does not break down in the body like potato or other starch does, and most of it passes through our bodies undigested. That is why it cannot be labeled as a starchy food for dietary purposes. This is what I meant, but its not clear, so I decided to specify before I got a thousand links to corn starch cans.)
8:15 Any family that neurotic about details would never stack dishes in the sink like that to begin with, and when it came time to clean them, they would say to wash the dishes (thoroughly), not rinse them. Also, that kitchen setup is entirely too chaotic to belong to someone like that. Again, if you're going to have a neurotic character, do it right!
8:55 Why is kidnapping such a common theme in bad children's movies?
11:04 I paused here to get dinner, and I come back to see that face. He looks confused, annoyed, and stoned. Good work, animators!
13:40 Okay, look. This trick isn't done much anymore and almost everybody knows how its done. That doesn't mean that you have to ruin a perfectly good trick for every young person in the audience with such a pointless scene! I despise it when cartoons ruin jokes or tricks that could evoke wonder and inspiration for them if they saw it done properly, but ends up being a non-entity that passes them by with barely a notice because of how haphazardly and sloppily it is presented. THIS is a large part of what is ruining the magic and wonder of childhood!
15:15 Yep! He's the only one not breaking the rules...by being in a basement obviously hidden away for its creative contents left to rot. If you're going to have a setup, use it!
15:30 What is it with children's movies having some of the worst people? I should not hate someone so much from just one line.
17:30 NOBODY IS THIS NEUROTIC! For the record, if they were so anal-retentive, they would also have a problem with wasting paper each day to write out their habits that they would have memorized! I'm not expecting children's cartoon creators to major in psychology, but I do expect them to draw inspiration from real life. This guy isn't even one dimensional-he's nonsensical!
18:38 O_O
20:42 Oh, my gravy! "Kali-ma!"
20:53 See? We were on the same wavelength! That is not a good sign for a children's movie when a scene evokes imagery from a horrific scene from another movie so easily!
21:06 And then Frosty kills all the kids in an avalanche, the mayor goes mad and starts strangling people that break the rules, and the town devolves into chaos and despair. ...What? Doesn't that feel like what the movie has been building up to all this time?
21:21 See? It's not just me! (This is a really disturbing cartoon.)
This is why it is important to watch these movies and not just stick some random movie in to entertain your children. That and quality time with them, of course.
I remember loving this it aired on CN during Christmas time when I was young
My childhood officially worsened when I realized Spongebob and Patrick played a part in a childhood breaking Frosty the Snowman movie.
Even with all the Christmas specials I have seen, I dont ever recall seeing this one. Nice find there Bob and I can already see the pain you experienced with it.
13:25 Well, they did the same thing in Danny Phantom, but I don't see anyone complaining.
Thats because Danny Phantom is actually GOOD
Stephen Brown Old comment, but Danny Phantom never really had a comic book based on him. Unless you're referring to the episode of Reality Trip of when Danny gets pushed into a stand that have books of him. That was pretty much a joke, plus unlike this film who had Frosty write the story of himself in a Never-ending Story style, Danny didn't make those comics. He had become popular enough to have fans that write fanfic comics. So yeah, I'm still a DP phan so I thought I put in my two cents. lol
We there was a comic book if you watched one of the fairly odd parents episode that featured the pilot episode of crash nebula,if you looked the episode closely you see the main character crash nebula reading a comic book that has the title Danny Phantom
Stephen Brown ha fancy seeing you here. I honestly never heard of this special until now.
I always saw that chaotic opening as more a warning for how if you blindly follow the guidelines you might miss whats right in front of you; like if the kids weren't being forced to march in single file like they were in the dang army the ensuing domino effect probably wouldn't have happened..
13:34 "Dad, stop bringing women stuffed in boxes into my room!"
"But son, I need to cut her in half in front of you!"
I like the serial killer vibe this scene can give off if you ignore the fact he's a magician. To be fair, Frosty the Snowman's club is pretty much a cult.
wait, Sarah is voiced by Tara Strong? this girl's everywhere!
I saw this on Netflix a few months ago. It was so bad it was good. I laughed a lot and watched it again after I told my friends about it. We all laughed!
Thanks for the review! This was funnier than the movie!
Holy crap I thought you were kidding when you said Frosty was voiced by Patrick Star, but no I think that actually is Patrick wHAT THE HECK??
I wouldn't be surprised if Tommy's mother was Karen, just so her humiliation would be complete.
Ok....so...some of the facial expressions weren't too bad, the animation on Frosty was pretty decent...but, *why are the proportions so weird?*
That's actually a pretty good impression of Pennywise!
So, the original Frosty the Snowman Rankin/Bass cartoon had a story where Karen builds a snowman with her friends, named him Frosty, puts the iconic magic old silk hat on him (Happy Birthdaaaaaaaay!) and risking her own life going to the North Pole with Frosty with big success with Santa taking Karen home and Frosty to the North Pole. Frosty’s Winter Wonderland is not a sequel nor is Rudolph and Frosty’s Winter in July because there’s no Karen (Thanks a lot, Rankin/Bass and Warner Bros!). Frosty Returns is just a spin-off because Frosty wears a BOWTIE!!! And Karen just appears on the front cover of the comic book with a different look thus making her appearance in this UNOFFICIAL!!!
(Windows Ta-Da) Must Be A Bobsheaux!
Patrick: Who are you
Frosty: I'm you
Spongebob: Are you me?
The mayor: yes
18:19 Walter looks like he’s bowing to Tommy.
Like he’s saying “Kinda Charmed to make your acquaintance now whadda ya want?”
I remember seeing this thing AGES ago on Cartoon Network
Same! I remember loving it and still kind of do, purely for nostalgia sake. I admit this movie is a stink bomb + has anything to do with Christmas.
So many missed opportunities with this movie! They should have had Principal Pankley be a descendant of Burgermeister Meisterburger or something. And where was Karen?
13:13 Maybe Karen or one of the other kids wrote down her adventures with Frosty for all kids to enjoy. Or maybe it was another story about Frosty.
Or Karen sacrificed herself, causing history to erase her from everyone's minds, thus saving the Rankin Bass-verse from the evil Live Action Year Without A Santa Claus. Or something.
ENRAGEMediaCorp Actually that wouldn't make a bad prequel.
25:25 WHAT!?!? is the Clipboard suppose to be like Excalibur?
Maybe thats why the mayor loves it more than his own sons.
Whoso wieldeth this clipboard is rightwise Mayor born of Evergreen.
Or the clipboard has the regular Frosty people in it
And I bet he has sex with it offscreen and why he loves it so much.
Patrick what are you doing here?
Honestly, the only reason why I recently gained a slight amount of admiration for this movie is because I found out that "As Told by Ginger" creator Emily Kapnek was behind it. She's usually a great writer, but I question just how much she really knew about the original 1969 special.
And that's not the only connection "The Legend of Frosty the Snowman" has with "Ginger". If you go on the IMDb pages of both productions, you'll find out that they share a lot of voice actors, thanks to casting director Barbara Wright. For example, the guy who voices Walter in this special voiced Darren Patterson.
Oh, and Jared Faber does the music for both, as well.
Yeah, I know I'm a nerd.
Lots of Nickelodeon actors are in this movie 🍿
So my brother has this thing where he gets, what can only say as obsessed, with something for like several weeks. So from 7 am to 11 pm the thing he would do the most was watch this. Lets just say it burned into my brain quite deep.
15:44 INVASION OF THE FROSTIES! Coming in 2018
*Frosty Clones:* "HAPPY BIRTHDAY"
MayorXClipboard OTP
Ages ago I wrote a parody of the first verse or so of the song, called "Frosty the Golem," in which a rabbi's kids made a golem out of dirty snow... I offer the idea to any animation studio wanting to do a new take on Frosty for a Hanukkah special, but I don't think anyone would do it. Maybe that's just as well.
I will admit, Pankley is drawn to look super evil, especially with that giant, creepy smile. In a better story, he would have made an amazing villain.
I mean just look at 24:50. Terrifying.
My mom and I found this and thought it was the original.
Luckily it was only on Netflix.
Netflix; Home of the Mockbusters and Crappy Sequels
Also a couple of these VAs sound like they're straight from Pound Puppies (2010)
As a young kid during school we were shown this movie around Christmas and after frosty fell through the ice they paused it.(I couldn't find it because I did not have the title) For years now I've never known what happened to frosty and now I know. (and remember how bad this movie is)
This whole town reminds me of Pleasantville!
3:55 "... there are no accidents." Actually, the very well-known philosopher Jean-Paul Sartre stated this. Explaining what he meant is too much for a RUclips comment, but information on this can be found online.
"How does one regulate wishing?"
Watch the Fairly Odd Parents.
The whole film would've been better if the plot were this:
Frosty just wants to make the kids into better people, since he knows they'll grow up to do great things.
He helps the kids become brave, independent, etc, by helping them face their fears and stand up for themselves.
Cut out the 50's stereotypes and just have it be about Frosty changing the kids for the better.
And like everyone has said, the mom should have been Karen as a way to tie it to the original special.
I remember watching this when I was little and confused why they change the story of how frosty came to life and the new voice actor for frosty does sound like Patrick star from spongebob
I need to be honest here, my whole reason for watching The Legend of Frosty the Snowman is actually because it had two of my favorite voice actors: Kath Soucie and Tom Kenny, together. The reason why I like Kath Soucie is because of a 30-minute special about The Little Engine That Could where Kath played the Star Engine, and because of a show about Sonic the Hedgehog where Kath played Sonic's love interest. And I like Tom Kenny because of SpongeBob, Eduardo from Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, and The Ice King from Adventure Time. So when I see one of those rare projects that has both voice actors working together, it feels like a dream come true. In this project, Kath Soucie voices Tommy Tinkerton, and Tom Kenny voices his father. This feels like the most actor-on-actor time Kath and Tom have had together to me, and I love it!
But does this mean I like The Legend of Frosty the Snowman as actual entertainment? That is hard to answer. I have seen the original 1969 project and even Frosty Returns as a child, but I don't consider myself an outright FAN of Frosty the Snowman. And I don't feel like denying that Bob Thomas has made multiple good points about those few parts that don't make much sense. The townspeople feel too rule-loving to be believable, I do wish Tommy had more screen time with Frosty, Frosty in particular has a couple of differences from his 1969 past-self, and how can a tidal wave possibly be made out of snow? But on the other hand, besides Kath Soucie and Tom Kenny, the other voice actors also give a good performance, and it does feel like a relief to see the townspeople engaging in more fun after all this depressing boredom. And considering it was Tommy who got the hat out of the guarding thing, I hesitate to say Tommy did "nothing important". I'm not going to tell people to go out of their way to watch this, but it still feels kind of harmless. In fact, since Frosty Returns makes no mention of Christmas at all, I don't find it farfetched to say this project is not supposed to be a Christmas project anyway.
A Miser Brothers Christmas was most at faithful sequel to A year Without A Santa Claus unlike both Frosty and Rudolph's post-Rankin/Bass sequels which were Rudolph & the Island of Misfit Toys and The Legend of Frosty the Snowman.
18:06 We all float down here Tommy and You will too
18:56
I remember watching this movie on Cartoon Network back in the day. Also, the broadcast that I watched was followed by that Looney Tunes Christmas Carol. This was either 2005 or 2006. This movie came out in 2005. Since Frosty Returns came out in 1995, couldn't they have brought back John Goodman as the voice of Frosty? He played Frosty in Frosty Returns.
When you said "Stay frosty" after your Barbie in A Christmas Carol review, that was a dead giveaway to what the next review was gonna be. (this one)