Original Volcanic "Rocket Ball" Cartridges
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Ammunition for the Volcanic Repeaters is extremely rare today, and this opportunity to take a look at a complete original box of it was something I did not want to miss. There were two calibers made; the .31 (Cartridge No.1) and the .41 (Cartridge No.2). Both were sold in tin boxes of 200 rounds, originally costing $10/thousand for the .31 and $12/thousand for the .41. The ammunition was made by Crittenden & Tibbals of South Coventry - a company which would eventually become Union Metallic Cartridge (UMC) and is still in business today. The ballistics of the No.2 we are looking at today were a 6.5 grain charge of black powder propelling a 100 grain projectile at about 260 feet/second. In other works, exceedingly underpowered even for its day. However, it was a waterproof, self-contained cartridge before the metallic cartridge case was refined enough to work reliably, and that was worth a lot.
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"And unlike the guns of our competitors, ours fire the whole bullet, that's 65% more bullet, per bullet."
*With the animation showing a whole 5.56 cartridge shaped bullet being sent through the barrel.
My first thought watching that was "why making the bullets look like conventional cartridges then??"
Is this a Portal reference?
The entire bullet is always fired.
Don't Shoot Me X or borderlands?
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Removing a misfire must have been pretty terrifying.
There was an incident of a guy trying to kill himself with a Volcanic pistol. I think he fired like 6 rounds into his head, without dying. So worst case you'd get a bruise or flesh wound if you actually got shot.
@@LUR1FAX ruclips.net/video/RZBHTOYHY6Y/видео.html
But it's the excitement that goes hand in hand with potential danger that makes life worth living! It's either ^this or bungie jumping... Take your pick!
@Wroger Wroger The fastest serve recorded in tennis is 73 m/s, so the gun's muzzle velocity is only slightly higher than a tennis ball. (and slightly less than the fasted Jai Alai shot - 84 m/s)
@@Mishn0 The difference between a bullet and the tennis ball is that the forces are concentrated on a much smaller area for a bullet.
This is one factor that makes bullets so dangerous.
Is Ian flexing on us during an ammunition shortage? Lol
Lol!
Haha in 2021....Ian, check this out, some 5.56.
@@TBreezy17 lol
osmacar a lot of instability causes mass buying.
@@osmacar5331 So many new gun owners with all the bullshit riots and invasions of property the ultra-left are doing here.
We spend so much time being focused on the guns, while the ammo can be just as interesting.
Indeed. Ian has stated more than once that we can't expect much innovation in firearms until we see an innovation in ammunition.
Ya, it's honestly something you wouldn't think is interesting but it is. I'd like to see ammo from WW1
Reminds me, when one of my not-immediate relatives passed on some years ago, I got ahold of some of their old firearms equipment. No guns, but some antique ammo. Pulling the (very loose) bullet on one, I found the propellant inside was not the usual black or smokeless powder grains I expected, but a number of small sticks, nearly as long as the interior of the case (minus the space taken up by the bullet), and which looked for all the world like bits of dried spaghetti. I was a teen at the time, and hadn't heard of Cordite yet, so that was an interesting educational experience. Unfortunately, it all ended up disappearing in a move a few years after that, so I don't have it anymore to get any pictures of.
It's pathetic in the term of efficiency, but genius in forward thinking for 1850 if this guy could use a smokeless powder (not invented back then) it would be reasonable effective
Well, the vast majority of guns just use the standard ammo of their time.
"the balls should be kept in a box, and well greased. if, by accident, a ball should missfire, it must be carefully pushed back with the rod."
that sounds like a pretty intense testicular surgery
For another missed investment opportunity regarding the volcanic firearms - I saw a post of a printed page out of a Winchester history book. Apparently, about 50ish years after Winchester acquired all of the Volcanic inventory, someone found a bunch of the rifles still in shipping crates in a warehouse, including a box of ammo in each crate. They were just going to be destroyed, but someone in management had a bright idea - They stacked the crates at the entrance to the factory, placed a guard to collect, and offered them to employees as a souvenir - for the hefty price of 25 cents. For the entire crate, firearm, and ammo....
This gun probably would been much more popular if they advertised it as a varmint pistol
Or a parlor pistol.
Or home defense...I really doubt it will shoot through a person and a wall
Or maybe a "Kid's first gun"
@@kushkiller7108
they could have marketted it toward obscenely accurate marksmen who could put 99/100 rounds directly into the center of a man's eyeball, and therefore didn't actually need anything expensive enough to penetrate skin
Didn't we have air guns back then? Not bb guns, real pellet-firing air guns.
150 years later, and the fundamental problems with caseless ammunition still persist.
If only the Berlin Wall had stayed up another year or two...
Wonder who is gonna buy the whole Remington brand ...maybe better ammo in the future
Because the dang ATF wont let me patent my C4 propelled Caseless cartridges :/ (grumble grumble)
@@grayeaglej wonder what else we could use, like fertilizer and diesel. The black powder pellets on a plastic stick/sabot/quickload doohickie are probably the closest thing we'll get commercially for a while.
@@randomidiot8142 I've often wondered about liquid fueld firearms. Has it been tried?
Crittenden and tibbles sounds like a bloke who needed a partner on the company stationary so used his pet cats name.
Question is... which name is the cat's?
@@SxTxferlife : Crittenden of course, every cat must have a properly stately name!
who came up with this comment first?
Crittenden & Tibbles: Makes unreliable caseless ammo
Remington UMC: Makes unreliable rimfire ammo
They've been consistent for over 150 years!
my cheap little .22 jams absurdly frequently using that green box remington. Worst ammo I've ever used.
Hilariously remington .22 lr is all i can RELIABLY yes. I said that. Run through my old savage/Springfield semiautomatic .22. Its the one ammunition that consistently works in it. Now any other gun its absolute trash.
The Remington golden bullet is a good bullet design that does pretty well on tissue, but Murphy is a dick so when I really need it to work it goes click. Rim thickness all over, wobbly bullets in cases, inconsistent charge, poor priming.. life is too short to waste time and money on garbage .22 ammo.
I've only had one gun that shot Remington green box well. A bolt action Charles Daily (if memory serves), but that gun was always something else. I put a 3x9 on it and it seems like the damn thing will take anything and make it fly straight, with a couple exceptions I guess. Only gun I've ever owned that could be sighted in on one type of shitty ammunition and immediately switch to a different shitty ammunition from another manufacturer and still shoot with the same zero. Best bolt action plinker/squirrel gun I've ever had by far.
@@randomidiot8142 Back in the early '80s when the machinery was not worn out, this was very reliable and accurate ammunition.
the forbidden hershey's kisses
In that tin box, they look a lot like salty licorice candy to me. I can just imagine some grandma offering some to her grandkids.
The lead poisoning hazard from eating one of those is roughly equivalent to the danger posed by being shot by a volcanic.
"But Gran, these are 'orrible!"
@@pscwplb No, I think the danger of lead poisoning is greater than that of being shot by a volcanic, if some accounts are to be believed.
Forbidden salmiaki candy.
Having tried salted licorice, I would rather have a Rocket Ball.
Volcanic Ammo - "Absolutely Positively Guaranteed to Sting Like A M-Effer"
Lolz
underrated comment
"I am the forgotten weapons guy. And this, is my weapon. It weighs 2,9 lbs and fires special $100 Crittenden & Tibbals cartridges at 12 rounds per minute. It costs $20 000 to fire this gun... for a couple of hours."
I'll take two.
Not Sure and it's not accurately portrayed in rdr2 which is probably for the best
It’s always interesting to learn about the possible technical path a piece of technology could have gone down.
Can you imagine a shooting a full auto rifle without a reciprocating bolt to eject a casing
How would they fit more black powder though?
@@Seth9809 Longer bullet.
@@natedunlop1631 there has been some machine guns focused on ultra high fire rate that tried that. The issue is as always, what to do with the excess heat you're normally dumping out the barrel with a case, and is it really worth it.
Just imagine that instead of "Say hello to my little friend" it could have been "Kiss my volcano balls!"
"If you own a volcanic, don't dry fire it!" Good advice! Thank you Ian I'll remember that!
Other people with a time machine: Hello, I am your great-great-great grandchild
Ian with a time machine: All of your Volcanic cartridges please
Suggestion. Calculate what the replica would cost for 50 or 100 units. Then advertise it so that if there is enough demand you would make them
Honestly 100-ish dollars a round is less than I expected...
Matt “For sale/trade - Glock 19 Gen 3, four magazines. $4,000 non negotiable. Willing to trade for Volcanic Pistol. No lowballs, I know what I got.”
Wife tells you to sell some guns.
Place them on gunbroker for high amounts
Never have to sell
Brilliant really.
I think you would be hard pressed to clone that cartridge for less than $100
I got 200 cash AND a half of bag of skittles! Today!!! What you say????
Okay keep your glock, all I need are the full mags. Lol
Wow, paintball markers fire at 300fps.
So do lots of arrows.
I imagine 100 grains of lead would do a lot more damage than a paintball at the same speed
@@ragnarragnarsson3128 My comment was to give perspective to the velocity by comparing it to a relatively common projectile.
@@forrest225 yes it was. My comment compared the destructive momentum of different projectiles traveling at the same speed.
@@ragnarragnarsson3128 a paintball is roughly 50ish grains in weight, so I still think it's mildly interesting that this only delivers around twice the energy as a paintball marker. Of course, it's not just energy, but also bullet material and shape, but still interesting.
"Crittenden & Tibbals" sounds like the names of an old lady's cats.
That or an investment firm. Crittenden & Tibbals: Trusted advisors helping you preserve wealth for generations.
@@ScottCroom Why not both?
@First Name Last Name In my defence, it wasn't posted when I was writing it.
@First Name Last Name A couple of us came up with the same joke. Your insulting of my intelligence for that alone is unwarranted.
As someone living in New Haven, CT now - it is amazing how little of its significant firearms legacy is left aside from the old Winchester building. CT seems hell-bent on erasing a very impressive firearms and martial history. I'm always astounded at how many of your videos on older and mid-century firearms feature manufacturers from New Haven and the surrounding area.
Same with the Los Angeles/Hollywood area, birthplace of the AR.
Try San Diego, which 50 years ago had a huge aircraft industry, and now just barely has an airport.
Good old-fashioned conglomeration.
@@SinisterGerbils Some of it is conglomeration, to be sure - but some of it is local politics and some is smaller manufacturers who tried and failed. Either way, Connecticut isn't going out of their way to highlight that they used to be one of the largest firearm manufacturing centers in the United States.
same with new york, they dont even make ithaca m37 shotguns anymore and those were fucking awesome, but anytime democrats move in they ruin everything
I find it funny that caseless ammunition was developed before cased ammo.
I had the pleasure of working on an original Volcanic in .41cal. a couple of years ago. It was missing the follower, follower spring, the collar that holds the swiveling piece for loading at the end of the barrel, and the sight and screw for locking it down. With nothing to go by but some photos, I had to make them all by hand. Took quite a bit of time, but as the firearm was serial number 296, I believe it was first year production, and worth roughly 12-15,000, it was well worth the effort! The customer was ecstatic with the results, considering he had been hauling it around in it's "broken" condition for over 50 years. He acquired it from his uncle who, won it in a card game! Must have been a hell of a pot!
RUclips: "You can´t promote guns in your videos."
Me: Gets KCI Glock 17 mag ad.
Watched a video about get rich quick schemes... 3 ads all get rich quick schemes
I wish I could get cool ads. I just get bullshit.
@@jacobs.9797 IKR? I really want to see ads on technologies and cars, yet all I get are some random guys bragging about their cheap and often useless products. Wondering how do those companies even got enough fund to advertise on RUclips.
RUclips: You can't promote guns in your video. Because that's the money I supposed to make, not you.
I got ads for an extremist newspaper run by a fairly dodgy cult before this. Probably the same ethical level as half the mobile game ads I see here.
I think RUclips demonetisation rules are 95% due to laziness and cheapness on their part, politics is barely part of it (they just want to get as much ad sales as possible). They can't easy/cheaply build an algo to seperate legit gun history from people advocating shooting people. Similar to how they used people in 3rd world countries(To save money) to determine what was acceptable and PG and was confused when those cheap reviewers demonetised loads of gay RUclipsrs.
Me: can’t even get a case of .22lr
Ian: here is 200 rounds of 19 century rocket ammo
I'm not paying ten cents a round for .22lr.
@@zacharyrollick6169 if it's subsonic or match ammo I think that's about right.
CCI SV? No shortage here, make me an offer ;)
@@zacharyrollick6169 I paid 45 cents a round for a case of steel cased 9mm...
I know shops are ripping people off these days but what else can we do? I couldn't even get enough ammo for my range days...
Coming next week:
_Forgotten Weapons Pictures presents:_
*9mm Parabellum*
Muzzle velocity slightly higher than a Webley Junior air-pistol! "Nothing to extract" except, perhaps, a lot of blackpowder and burnt grease fouling!
Thanks for teaching me about guns I just scored a Westinghouse made finish mosin nagant for 200$
I hate you lol
lucky!!! take great care of it, but run it like a mosin!
Matt Fleming I know it’s my first milsurp too
@@Myhouse69420 Check out 9holereviews video. The good ones can shoot! I don't know if you reload but a single stage press would be a good companion to that rifle!
They must not have known what it was.
Man, as a gunsmith I always find the content on this channel to be amazingly interesting!
"The too frequent snapping of the hammer when the arm is not charged, may injure it."
Why does that sound like it came out of Google Translate?
Confirmed Google translation being invented hundreds years ago.
Language shifts over time. Plus people read much more today than they used to, so literacy is much higher now due to universal education and the way we write shifts.
"It's all right, Miss. I speak Victorian."
@@BogeyTheBear Golly!
Tis' be ye olde Ænglish.
I can already feel these bouncing off of my skull.
Literally a co2 pellet gun is just as if not more effective at killing.
@@ATruckCampbell Still ,if someone threw a lead ball at you; it would probably hurt. ;)
@@deadflowers7017 Yea, but I would rather get shot by this than say a good break barrel pellet gun. Different damage types really.
We NEED to see a slow mo of Ian shooting these out of a volcanic pistol!!!
I feel like these could have been excellent revolver ammo with some changes, namely making the whole design longer in order to have more propellant. Using them in a revolver would save several of the issues you mentioned.
'The balls should be kept in a box, and well greased'... Good advice!
"probably a little late to act on that now" ~ Ian said as he primed his time machine.
Oh man, I had a case of this stuff and when it didn't work in my Glock, I used the bullets as sinkers when I went bass fishing.
...ok, maybe not.
At least you're kidding, unlike the people that keep buying up all the 9mm Makarov for their 9mm luger guns.
Zachary Rollick that’s hilarious I hadn’t thought of that yet but I’m sure it’s happening
You should've just left it without the last part. Would've been funnier.
@@MrEazyE357 :) 👍
Marking down volcanic ammunition for my Time Traveler's money making guide.
Just make sure to pull them from a warehouse on fire to prevent butterfly effect.
@@zacharyrollick6169 And you'll need to replace the rounds with some modern replicas so that the rounds will burst in fire and have the same horrible sound to keep people away.
@@zacharyrollick6169 unless we are operating on multiverse theory.... if thats the case, the butterfly effect might not be a problem because of parallel timelines. what one person could do in one timeline wont affect the others.
@@reaperaf9511 Just like in DBZA, the only way to find out is to do it.
Right behind a '67 Vette with an L88 motor.
Contrary to popular belief the Red Dead volcanic doesn’t use the rocket ball. If you read the catalogue page when buying the volcanic it says it does away with rocket ball and uses standard metallic cartridges, hence why it’s one of the more powerful pistols in the game.
gofa curself Watch it you’re gonna cut someone with that edge
Your channel is the most informative gun channel on you tube full stop, I have learned so much from you Ian, thank you sir
Those are some of the neatest and most expensive bullets, I really like the history on those
Next video: Can an volcanic pistol go through 100 rounds of original ammunition without malfunctioning?
Well we tried to fire a single round and it uh...dissolved. Into powder. Didn’t even know lead could do that.
@@TheArkTheArkTheArk can't tell if you're joking or not
@ Anmaßender Kommentator
It only costs 10 grand plus the price of the gun....
If the primer is mercury fulminate, it would have decayed into cyanide well over a century ago.
I don't think that you could do it with 150 year old ammo of any kind.
"estimated value of $20,000" -- just about the cost of a 200 round box of 9mm today! /s
So cool to see these and get an explanation. Thank you Ian!
Awesome of RIA/ the seller to have let you handle and show them. Thanks to whoever you are.
15 foot pounds of energy
This thing makes 22 shorts look like an elephant gun
If I recalculated it correctly (as I live in metric world) this is roughly same energy as many airguns.
@@PavelNygryn there's some airguns that are fairly tame that have more muzzle energy
@@PavelNygryn Nowadays there are some very powerful airguns. I have one that shoots 9mm slugs with 300 joules.
@@lt.lasereyez8891 You can build air cannon, that makes much more. I clearly mean "common mainstream airguns". See "many" ;)
@@PavelNygryn Would hurt a lot.
One of the coolest things you’ve ever shown on here!
The videos where Ian is having real fun working with this kind of extremely rare stuff are my favourites
It is absolutely amazing any of those still exist. But to see an almost entirely full original box, in excellent shape, and with the label intact and preserved just brings it to a whole other level. I've been fascinated with the Volcanic series of firearms(Even if they were kind of crap, lol.) since I was a teen, back when I was shooting in the NSSA. I've seen many of the firearms, but I've never seen the original ammo in the actual box as it was sold. I've seen maybe a tiny handful of loose rounds here and there, but that's it. That was super, super cool to see.
Nothing wrong with liking terrible weapons. I bought a Hi Point over a year ago just to raise cringe reactions when people see it at the range, and the thing is, be it a Volcanic or whatever gun it may be - bad guns are just as relevant as good guns, and deserve recognition for better or worse. I'd really love a semi auto L85A1 one day, if I could find one. An awful gun, yes, but that's the point. Either way, you got to admit, in the 1850s, you would have been sold at "VOLCANIC", "ROCKET BALL", and "CASELESS". It must have sounded like such a cool gun, and still does today, even if it was optimistic garbage in reality. There's people out there to appreciate any gun, good or bad, and more power to you for enjoying terrible weapons, because not enough people do.
Excellent timing, i was just replaying Red Dead Redmption.
weird how the Volcanic is the most powerful pistol in the game considering its real life reputation
I'm trying to complete it
Weird how the Volcanic is the most powerful pistol in the game, and uses the same ammo as the FN 1899, C93 and C96. I mean, come on.
@@barronTV1 Yeah, it is particularly lauded in-game for great range capability, which makes no sense when you take the IRL velocity into account.
@@barronTV1 At least in RDR2, the catalog mentions that the Volcanics being sold are cartridge conversions.
I’ve always found these things so interesting. It’s like the opposite of modern cased ammunition. Instead of putting the projectile in the case, why not put the case in the projectile? Lmao
Wow this video was amazing. It was actually your series on the Volcanic rifles and pistols that got me into this channel in the first place and I'm so happy to finally have a video on the ammo those guys used because I was really confused by it at first and it took me a while to understand what it actually was but even so I think this video has cleared up my questions on the matter
I loved that history of UMC. I had no idea.
260 feet/second? That’s slow enough for people named Chung, Neo, and Remo to dodge in their sleep.
Arrows are faster than that. Ancient Chinese semi auto crossbow had a projectile speed close to 1,000 fps.
Ammunition shortage brings *ALL* the obscure ammo out of the closets.
@CLureCo yep.
Same story as when the rimfire shortage hit. I know a guy who is sitting on over a hundred thousand rounds of .22lr.
NOT a typo.
At one point, he had over 110 thousand rounds; he's sold some, shot some, and will still have a more-than-lifetime supply. He's NEVER getting his money back, though. 'cause the rimfire apocalypse never happened.
Thank you , Ian .
Someone made a .22 that had a ceaseless powdered charge. It would be fired on what resembled a spring air rifle. When the compressed air heated up, it would ignite the powder charge in the same manner that using too much of the wrong oil in a break-barrel air rifle would cause a detonation.
What would be an interesting project would be to design a Volcanic style pistol but instead of six grains of black powder, use six grains of Hercules Unique smokeless powder. If you can get the breech to seal, you might get 600 feet per second.
Daisy V/L, I believe.
Rocketball. Miniturized Badminton Shuttles with a firecracker in it..
Nice one.
They're called shuttlecocks
@@johnathanblackwell9960 Or perhaps shuttlebangs in this case?
@@johnathanblackwell9960 I knew that. But RUclips doesn't like comments with that C word much..
Oh Wow! original ammo
I like to think that this cartridge existing served as the platform from which real, cased ammo came from. There are so many things they got right and so many things they got wrong. All fixed by metallic cartridges.
I was hoping it was Col. Crittendon from Hogan’s Hero’s. Great video, amazing to see them in the flesh. Not that they would make there through a properly starched shirt!
Got to respect a guy that uses the word"obdurate"
Haha, in RDR2 it's extremely powerful whereas irl the Volcanic pistol's cartridges, the "Rocket ball" wouldn't even penetrate through a thin layer of cloth. Although the power might be confused for it's cool name.
RDR2 ?
@@jock-of-ages73 Red Dead Redemption Pt 2 - video game by Rockstar games, in which the protagnist can use a Volcanic pistol as one of his weapons.
@super duper I agree with you although it was probably very ineffective against humans, bears etc.
I think they explained the gun's power by claiming it was a version that fired regular cartridges.
@super duper I think in one of Ian's Volcanic pistol videos he told a story of how one guy tried to kill himself with the .31 caliber version. He shot himself in the head several times and gave up when they failed to penetrate.
This is fascinating and I'm delighted to see a video on this
When he says the Volcanic ammo is underpowered, to put it in perspective a paintball is about half the weight and slightly faster on a standard field. Goose the marker to 375 fps and you get the same energy.
A golf ball weighs 7x as much as that bullet and goes just about as fast off the drive. I know there’s something to be said for the small diameter of the bullet, but if you put me 10 yards from someone with a Volcanic or Tiger Woods on the tee, I’d seriously consider the dude with the Volcanic.
[raises one eyebrow, Spock-like] Fascinating.
"Probably a little late to act on that now" - lol, good one.
The instructions on the box! 🤣
*"The balls should be kept in a box, and well greased. If by accident, a ball should misfire, it must be carefully pushed by the rod, leaving the carrier down. The too frequent snapping of the hammer when the arm is not charged, could injure it."*
Funny how Rockstar made Volcanic pistol most powerful type of it in the game and even more powerful than any revolvers, Evans repeater, Lancaster repeater, it has same damage as Semi-Auto shotgun (!), and just a little bit less powerful than other repeaters and shotgun, but with that cartridge it should have damage around bow with the arrow for the small game.
No wonder i use it against Lemoyne Raiders and murfree hillbillys
92 rounds on layer one
Gabriel Strong it was funny he mentioned the second layer as I was counting the rounds 😁
Hi, Ian. Ah ha! Gyrojet's grandpa! I bet the pistol was better made than the Gyrojet. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!
John Miner
This reminded me of an ad in a shooter’s bible, #59, 1968. Mark1 Gyrojet Handgun. STD model with 2” barrel, black finish, with grips; weight, 13 ozs. $165.00
13mm rocket ammo,
Per six-pack $9.00
Triple six-pack $24.30
STD 24-pack $31.20
Amazing that box survived this long!
To cool.
If a DeLorean pulls up outside an 1856 Gunsmith's shop, we'll know they got your investment advice.
266fps = 177mph
Good Lord that is weak. The fastest tennis serve ever is 157mph and a tennis ball weighs roughly 900 grains.
Sold in 200 because you'd need to hit someone with all of them.
You could do more harm by chucking the entire box at them.
beating on your target with the gun was a more reliably effective means of inflicting fatality on your target
I presume, given the tiny powder charge and corresponding low energy, that the Volcanics were very quiet guns to shoot.
"throw the bullet downrange." Yeah, that's about right.
Other than a close-range headshot, could this round even kill a person?
It can’t even kill you with a close-range headshot. Ian’s other video on this gun talks about a guy who tried to kill himself with one but failed.
I have airsoft guns with a higher FPS than that actual gun
It's got the same velocity of a paintball gun and only double the projectile weight. Ridiculous that anyone ever thought this was a good idea, but I suppose it beats a pointy stick!...maybe.
@@JackedALF pretty sure beating someone over the head with it would be deadlier
If you threw it hard enough.
Rocket Ball Ammo
Sounds cool on paper but practically questionable.
My thanks to the owners of the hens teeth for allowing Ian to handle these enough to make this video!
Volcanic Rocket Ball sounds like the most popular sport in a sci fi dystopia.
Pathetic energy even compared to modern airguns. I never knew that there was a .31 caliber Volcanic. $20K? Words (even profanities) fail me.
Ian has a video on an air rifle that was on the Louis and Clark expedition, pretty sure that one was more effective than this.
I am simple man. I see Gun Jesus I click
Any tin box on cardboard from the 19th century is a pretty rare treat to look into, especially when it still has all the ammunition. Now if there was a revolutionary war ammo pouch full of musket balls...
Just facinating. thhanx for sharing,including the pistol n rifles!
Wait... volcanic =/= rocket ball.
Volcanic is the brand of gun. Rocket Ball is the brand of ammo.
Kind of like getting confused over a Beretta chambered for .40 Smith and Wesson.
@@BogeyTheBear No. Walter Hunt invented the Rocket Ball, which did not have a primer. Firearms using that ammo were still dependent on an external source of ignition, such as a mercury fulminate pills. Volcanic rounds were the improvement that included their own primer in each round. Their guns required no pill magazine. ruclips.net/video/W4XRSgZ4SpU/видео.html
I run a replica store on etsy (Rooker's Replicas)
Would anyone who sees this comment be interested in a replica of this ammo box with some resin/zinc cartridges possibly? Seems like something I could make if I put my birdbrain mind to it~
I would buy that, and i know a few folks who probably would too
I'd probably be interested
I thought he was going to say
“welcome to forgotten weapons I would like to show your weapon but I forgot it”
Wonderful video I've often wanted to see some of this older ammo up close thank you.
Feeding the algorithm
100 grains but slower than an airsoft gun lol
Oh I know, I don’t want to get hit with one either (which is a terrible argument, nobody wants to get hit with anything, doesn’t necessarily mean its an effective defensive tool), but I recognize while it’s incredibly slow its also substantially heavier than an airsoft pellet. Still, I’d take a ‘51 navy or a ‘60 army any day over this. A heavy jacket could stop it, especially when you’re talking about a wool coat, a waistcoat, a shirt, and undergarments that it has to go through just to touch skin. It’s like using 9mm against a bear, it’s doable but why chance it when you potentially won’t have the penetration to do any serious damage?
Very interesting video, I had seen illustrations of the ammo before but never anything that in depth. Thank you.
Really cool to see this after the video you did a long time ago on the actual volcanic guns!
I think that box only has 182 bullets. The ammo is arranged in 7 double rows, and two bullets deep; left row has 7 bullets and the right has 6 for a total of 13 per double row. Multiply that by 14 and you get 182.
This low power ammunition would be perfect for indoor shooting ranges they had in saloons back in the day. Multiple shots so customers wouldn’t have to wait to reload every shot and no need of a tough backstop.
This sounds like a fun gun to shoot. I always like watching the rounds arc in to the target, and with this thing i could do that on a pistol range.
Those are in astoundingly good shapw
Wow! That box would fill a calico 2 times!
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I have an inline muzzleloader that's primed by a 209 shotshell primer. The rifle is .58 cal, but if I load it with a .36 cal round ball rapted with Al foil and just use the 209 primers the projectile travels at 400+ fps out of the 20-inch barrel. all you hear is a pop.
Wow! You never disappoint!
That's about the speed of a paintball gun... And you can clearly see those projectiles in air.