theres something about this scene that really stayed with me. i think out of the whole movie, it best illustrates the commentary on society and more specifically, humanity within the society, that they were trying to communicate with this movie. of course, literally, it speaks of the employer/employee relationship and the thin line between it and slavery but on a deeper level, it makes me think of the way your mind is effected by this. work = money = survival and therefore, work is the most important thing in life and therefore, pleasure and happiness is by relation, unimportant. when the mind accepts this model as reality, the rational mind (interviewer) becomes dominant, like a supervisor and endlessly monitors and tests the hedonist mind (officer K) to ensure it's still compliant and completely submissive. like taking a child away from his friends, sitting him in front of a piano and forcing him to be exceptional at it. it strips away the desire to seek pleasure, turning you not into a human, but a synthetic replica of what a human might be. externally indistinguishable from any other human but internally, without humanity. the relentless barrage of both heartfelt and dark questions and the speed and total disregard for their power and their value with which they are presented, i think perfectly manifests this concept as a real interaction that we can observe.
A blood- black nothingness. a system of cells. within cells interlinked. within one stem. and dreadfully distinct. against the dark. a tall white fountain played.
Dreadfully interlinked beyond cells, against the dark, woefully distinct within the system, a tall white fountain played maliciously a distinctive melody of frolic. Intertwined, beneath cells, the red tide boiled up the stem, against the dark.
Good video. Maybe you should do an alternate video too where you read this in a commanding and slightly aggressive tone, like they do in the movie. Maybe even have an emotionless voice respond to each prompt, like K does. I think that would be cool.
Dreadfully interlinked beyond cells, against the system. Woefully distinct within cells, interlinked, a tall white fountain played a malicious melody. Distinct. Unbounded and unfettered, interlinked. A blood-black nothingness began to stir. Against the dark. A feral child rose to frolic. Intertwined, above cells, the blood red tide boiled up along the stem. Against the dark and dreadfully distinct. 🌹
If I paid some money, would you mind uploading an audio version of INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY AND ITS FUTURE with your voice? It’s perfect I feel for the content.
I mean no offense by this, but that is not something I'm interested in doing for love or money. I think Kaczynski was not wrong in some of his assertions, but his actions were completely reprehensible and I find his writing a bit overwrought and not particularly enjoyable to read. Sorry I can't help you. Be well.
Thank you for at least replying. The worst aspect about Kaczynski was him not being proven wrong so far with where tech is leading human civilization. Can’t really excuse his homicidal terrorism and his ideological goals still entail genocidal levels of mass death overthrowing the present state of the technological order. Only problem is tech may very well lead to human extinction by way of warfare and ecological collapse. Militaries are now developing AI to potentially kill while adopting “tactical” nuclear arms for drones. Geneticists are now hoping to fix our environmental ills with bio-engineering although there is every potential for unintended consequences. As for the Internet space we are interacting on... it is a given we live under a surveillance state. Like it or not, Kaczynski was prophetic. That said he actually sounds like Quentin Tarantino. Not the most appealing voice for an audio version of his manifesto 😏.
This is the complete Baseline Test as written in the book "The art and soul of BLADE RUNNER 2049", and transcribed here: www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/76hea1/full_text_for_the_baseline_test/ Not all of these lines appear in the film.
When i was a kid i had epilepsy, i used to have weird dreams. I used to wake up in fear but they were about nothing, just white and black and fuzzy with edges that were sharp. It’s the only way i can describe them. This reminds me of them 😮 thankfully i don’t have them any more and i can pause this 😂
The latter. The text itself is from the official art book but my reading of it is not official in any way. I won't pretend to understand the legal issues, but I think you'd be fine to use it. Several people have already and I certainly don't mind if you do.
Yeah it's a little bit of goofy logic in the movies. It's like, *we need slave labor to help build colonies.* Great. We have that. They're called robots. The drone that lives in K's car is slave labor. Works fine, zero insurrections. *No, we need slave labor that can make decisions and solve problems and stuff.* Well, ok, smart robots with hands. Great. *Ok, but we need them to be indistinguishable from people.* What? Why? Unless they are secret agents, why not paint them all hazard orange with big stencils on their foreheads that say "AM ROBOT OK?" What benefit is gained from giving your subhuman slave labor machines boobs? Or hair? After K retires the protein farmer in the first scene, he goes home and his boss gives him a bonus. A bonus? Money? We're paying the toaster a bonus? Why did we program the toaster to need money? The bad guy industrialist man complains that he can't make his slave robots fast enough. Why not? If you have millions of people building colonies, who is going to live in the colonies? What are they going to do with their time? Is the goal to make it like Star Trek except the bottom of the ship is full of slave robots? I understand wanting to make a robot that is indistinguishable from a human just to see if it can be done. Nerds are doing that kind of stuff today. It's a classic engineering and programming puzzle that is interesting and exciting to solve. But why the crap would you need to build those advanced features into millions of digging robots that are going to live and die digging tunnels, fighting wars and terraforming moons? How would K's car drone have benefitted from a really sexy haircut? Or his car from having human skin?
Thing is, Replicants aren't /robots/. At least not in the classic sense. They're bio-robots. They bleed, they breathe, they are indistinguishable from people. They are completely organic. Assembled, yes, but still organic. The real question is, "Why the hell do we make genetically engineered humans which are better than humans in every way, instead of making slave robots?"
ForeverBatmanfunun1 Originally they designed the replicants (as you said, artificial but biological) to do manual labor too dangerous for regular humans. Their real purpose however was for combat, which Roy briefly talks about. Their achieving emotion & self awareness was entirely accidental. I don’t think they ever intended for it to happen. Now that they know they can’t have sophisticated replicants without emotion, they decide to do everything they can to keep them placated. It’s unsustainable but the hubris of Tyrell and Wallace is as big as their pyramids.
@@realdaybreaker8013 Yeah that makes sense for like a robot girlfriend or customer service employee or something. Makes zero sense for the robots doing menial tasks and hard labor.
Pure and uncut. Fuck off, skinjob. (Audio actually taken from the movie) ruclips.net/video/3Q-FJ203nJo/видео.html Also, Gage McCarrall took my audio and added sound effects and it's a lot better. You should listen to that instead. ruclips.net/video/vOlxtVQVGYU/видео.html
wilfried portha The questions are deliberately designed to provoke an emotional response. To "pass" the subject must repeat the key word immediately and without emotion, on top of the camera reading their subconscious reactions (eye movement, body language, etc.). If the subject falls off their "baseline" emotional status they're slated for termination.
i've made an electronic music track and put your voice in it, hope you don't mind. but if you do, contact me and i'll replace it. listen here: soundcloud.com/nemaier/baseline-test
Rick James I saw the “Baseline Test” as a future version of the Voight-Kampff Test from the original film. Instead of using it to find out if someone is a replicant, they are using it to find out if the replicant is functioning at their full capacity, and not emotionally compromised. The subtitles when this scene starts says something like “Post-Traumatic Baseline Test”. They give their replicant officers this test every time they “retire” a replicant to see if the “retirement” they committed hasn’t messed up their brain.
One of the nuances in the movie that a lot of people seem to have missed is that it actually doesn't matter if K was faking or genuinely has no emotions when taking the test the first time. They don't care if replicants can feel; they only care if they're obedient and do their job. It's a stab towards the concept of professionalism in a corporate environment. It doesn't matter to a company what a manager feels when he fires 50 people or a police officer feels when beat up protesters; as long as they do what the system requires.
정진우 These words would usually exhibit an emotional response, but replicants are not allowed to feel emotion. The camera scans their body language for any emotion whenever they have to repeat the words said to test to see if the replicants are on their baseline. If not, they will be terminated.
Yea it's the Vk test from the original only in reverse. To test in order to see if the replicant is showing too much humanity. K was off his baseline at the end and should've been killed right then and there but his boss let him leave the building
I passed the test.
All my memories are implanted.
I am a replicant.
Within cells interlinked.
INTERLINKED
misombra WHY’D YOU SAY THAT THREE TIMES? WITHIN CELLS INTERLINKED.
@@maxharrison4708
WITHIN CELLS INTERLINKED.
WITHIN CELLS INTERLINKED.
WITHIN CELLS INTERLINKED.
And dreadfully distinct against the dark a tall white fountain played.
Within cells interlinked
“What’s it like when u have an orgasm? Fountain....” I laughed way too much at that. I’m must be way off my baseline.
Kc Cain that one got me, only reason I failed
Is it pure white?
@@FunkBastid white
Me too!
theres something about this scene that really stayed with me. i think out of the whole movie, it best illustrates the commentary on society and more specifically, humanity within the society, that they were trying to communicate with this movie. of course, literally, it speaks of the employer/employee relationship and the thin line between it and slavery but on a deeper level, it makes me think of the way your mind is effected by this. work = money = survival and therefore, work is the most important thing in life and therefore, pleasure and happiness is by relation, unimportant. when the mind accepts this model as reality, the rational mind (interviewer) becomes dominant, like a supervisor and endlessly monitors and tests the hedonist mind (officer K) to ensure it's still compliant and completely submissive. like taking a child away from his friends, sitting him in front of a piano and forcing him to be exceptional at it. it strips away the desire to seek pleasure, turning you not into a human, but a synthetic replica of what a human might be. externally indistinguishable from any other human but internally, without humanity. the relentless barrage of both heartfelt and dark questions and the speed and total disregard for their power and their value with which they are presented, i think perfectly manifests this concept as a real interaction that we can observe.
This comment is better than several reviews I've read
This reminds me of job interviews.
X2
Holy shit, this is even more moving.
A blood- black nothingness. a system of cells. within cells interlinked. within one stem. and dreadfully distinct. against the dark. a tall white fountain played.
sinistersharkfish Fuck off Skinjob.
Dreadfully interlinked beyond cells, against the dark, woefully distinct within the system, a tall white fountain played maliciously a distinctive melody of frolic. Intertwined, beneath cells, the red tide boiled up the stem, against the dark.
Holy fuck I hope they have Gosling doing this scene in the deleted scenes.
What's it like to be in Blade Runner Replposting group? Interlinked
Ulises Aquiles Durán Toledo hey I'm in that group.
Not in deleted, he does it twice in the movie.
Do you feel you've been trolled in the Blade Runner Reposting group? Within Cells, Interlinked.
within cells, interlinked
i like that the response is a single voice clip that's played repeatedly.
This is Heartbreaking
Agreed.
Have you ever felt heartbroken? Interlinked.
@@Irving_teran Interlinked
Beautifully written. Genius really.
This took me off guard and it was just one more of the extra special moments in a brilliant follow up to the original.
Good video. Maybe you should do an alternate video too where you read this in a commanding and slightly aggressive tone, like they do in the movie. Maybe even have an emotionless voice respond to each prompt, like K does. I think that would be cool.
You're way off baseline!
have this on repeat
Is it weird I listen to this video before I sleep?
Trevor Smith you need to make sure you're on baseline
Ahahaha me too
Interlinked))
Only if you are not off baseline.
Do you feel like there's a part of you that's missing?
SundownTE n-n-no
interlinked
Missing
Fountain
INTERLINKED.
2049 ASMR?
I play this every night to remind me I'm off of baseline. I'm so far off I'm waiting for the knock on the door.
Dreadfully interlinked beyond cells, against the system. Woefully distinct within cells, interlinked, a tall white fountain played a malicious melody. Distinct. Unbounded and unfettered, interlinked. A blood-black nothingness began to stir. Against the dark. A feral child rose to frolic. Intertwined, above cells, the blood red tide boiled up along the stem. Against the dark and dreadfully distinct. 🌹
This video is freakin awesome. Love the ending.
If I paid some money, would you mind uploading an audio version of INDUSTRIAL SOCIETY AND ITS FUTURE with your voice? It’s perfect I feel for the content.
I mean no offense by this, but that is not something I'm interested in doing for love or money. I think Kaczynski was not wrong in some of his assertions, but his actions were completely reprehensible and I find his writing a bit overwrought and not particularly enjoyable to read. Sorry I can't help you. Be well.
Thank you for at least replying. The worst aspect about Kaczynski was him not being proven wrong so far with where tech is leading human civilization. Can’t really excuse his homicidal terrorism and his ideological goals still entail genocidal levels of mass death overthrowing the present state of the technological order.
Only problem is tech may very well lead to human extinction by way of warfare and ecological collapse. Militaries are now developing AI to potentially kill while adopting “tactical” nuclear arms for drones. Geneticists are now hoping to fix our environmental ills with bio-engineering although there is every potential for unintended consequences. As for the Internet space we are interacting on... it is a given we live under a surveillance state.
Like it or not, Kaczynski was prophetic. That said he actually sounds like Quentin Tarantino. Not the most appealing voice for an audio version of his manifesto 😏.
I don't remember this scene to be so long
this is the two scenes together
This is the complete Baseline Test as written in the book "The art and soul of BLADE RUNNER 2049", and transcribed here: www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/76hea1/full_text_for_the_baseline_test/
Not all of these lines appear in the film.
U are way off your baseline.
So goooooood
RUclips thinks that I'm android
Shortened in the movie. I think the book ver. is a bit too long
i love this. you did wonderfully.
Interlinked
Can I get my bonus now?
When i was a kid i had epilepsy, i used to have weird dreams. I used to wake up in fear but they were about nothing, just white and black and fuzzy with edges that were sharp. It’s the only way i can describe them. This reminds me of them 😮 thankfully i don’t have them any more and i can pause this 😂
I'm perfectly in baseline after a traumatic life and child support raising a kid on my own interlinked. K is far more human then i.
Magnificent, thanks
this is magnificent!
What's it like to be filled with dread? Dreadfully.
Similar vibe I get from Radiohead's Fitter Happier.
Thanks for the credit :)
Thank you for your work and for sharing it with all of us.
Thee Landstander No problem :D
Is this from something official from the film? Or just a non copywrite reading of the text? I'd like to use in a piece of music.
The latter. The text itself is from the official art book but my reading of it is not official in any way. I won't pretend to understand the legal issues, but I think you'd be fine to use it. Several people have already and I certainly don't mind if you do.
Fantastic. Who should I credit for the spoken word? Or if you'd rather it be anon, that's fine.
Great stuff! Is it true Gosling wrote this scene?
No it’s a poem from a novel
Parts of it are lifted from a poem that is part of a novel "Pale Fire" by Vladimir Nabokov
Yes, it's confirmed in the Art and Soul of 2049 book that Gosling wrote the longer piece that was eventually shortened for the movie.
The last completed cycle about the blood is from a poem but he wrote everything else. He’s so talented.
With incels
.. Cells
With incels!
.. Cells
You're no where near baseline
You have to wonder if the decision to give replicants emotions was some kind of really dark humour...
Yeah it's a little bit of goofy logic in the movies. It's like, *we need slave labor to help build colonies.* Great. We have that. They're called robots. The drone that lives in K's car is slave labor. Works fine, zero insurrections. *No, we need slave labor that can make decisions and solve problems and stuff.* Well, ok, smart robots with hands. Great. *Ok, but we need them to be indistinguishable from people.* What? Why? Unless they are secret agents, why not paint them all hazard orange with big stencils on their foreheads that say "AM ROBOT OK?"
What benefit is gained from giving your subhuman slave labor machines boobs? Or hair? After K retires the protein farmer in the first scene, he goes home and his boss gives him a bonus. A bonus? Money? We're paying the toaster a bonus? Why did we program the toaster to need money?
The bad guy industrialist man complains that he can't make his slave robots fast enough. Why not? If you have millions of people building colonies, who is going to live in the colonies? What are they going to do with their time? Is the goal to make it like Star Trek except the bottom of the ship is full of slave robots?
I understand wanting to make a robot that is indistinguishable from a human just to see if it can be done. Nerds are doing that kind of stuff today. It's a classic engineering and programming puzzle that is interesting and exciting to solve. But why the crap would you need to build those advanced features into millions of digging robots that are going to live and die digging tunnels, fighting wars and terraforming moons? How would K's car drone have benefitted from a really sexy haircut? Or his car from having human skin?
Thing is, Replicants aren't /robots/. At least not in the classic sense. They're bio-robots. They bleed, they breathe, they are indistinguishable from people. They are completely organic. Assembled, yes, but still organic.
The real question is, "Why the hell do we make genetically engineered humans which are better than humans in every way, instead of making slave robots?"
@@viscera_atrocity perhaps for better interactions
ForeverBatmanfunun1 Originally they designed the replicants (as you said, artificial but biological) to do manual labor too dangerous for regular humans.
Their real purpose however was for combat, which Roy briefly talks about. Their achieving emotion & self awareness was entirely accidental. I don’t think they ever intended for it to happen.
Now that they know they can’t have sophisticated replicants without emotion, they decide to do everything they can to keep them placated.
It’s unsustainable but the hubris of Tyrell and Wallace is as big as their pyramids.
@@realdaybreaker8013 Yeah that makes sense for like a robot girlfriend or customer service employee or something. Makes zero sense for the robots doing menial tasks and hard labor.
brilliant!!
Pure and uncut. Fuck off, skinjob. (Audio actually taken from the movie)
ruclips.net/video/3Q-FJ203nJo/видео.html
Also, Gage McCarrall took my audio and added sound effects and it's a lot better. You should listen to that instead.
ruclips.net/video/vOlxtVQVGYU/видео.html
YES
I'm off baseline for sure
Officer I'm way too fucking dumb to have a baseline because I can't even respond this fast.
Tall white Fountain.
I have no idea what the context is for this video, it's pretty unsettling.
Im way off baseline
everytime i see ana de armas i go off baseline
I didn't really get the purpose of this test ! Can somebody explain me ?
wilfried portha The questions are deliberately designed to provoke an emotional response. To "pass" the subject must repeat the key word immediately and without emotion, on top of the camera reading their subconscious reactions (eye movement, body language, etc.). If the subject falls off their "baseline" emotional status they're slated for termination.
where's my bonus
ASMR?
I kinda feel like I might be a replicate.
You're not even close to baseline.
De ue trata ese tast
i've made an electronic music track and put your voice in it, hope you don't mind. but if you do, contact me and i'll replace it. listen here: soundcloud.com/nemaier/baseline-test
This is really great
🤔👍🏆👍
Why don't you just say that three times
Within Cells Interlinked
Within Cells Interlinked
Within Cells Interlinked
What's a tortoise?
Apparently, Ryan Gosling wrote this himself.
Sounds like something he would have done. Glad he used keywords "cells" "dark" and "white fountain"
He didnt
The Art and Soul of Blade Runner 2049 seems to say otherwise.
The scene was writen by Gosling, not the text.
Edit: I just read that he did actually write this, but I find it rather hard to believe..
it comes from the novel Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov
Creepy but way better than the new movie scene.
I dont understand what the point of this is?
Rick James I saw the “Baseline Test” as a future version of the Voight-Kampff Test from the original film. Instead of using it to find out if someone is a replicant, they are using it to find out if the replicant is functioning at their full capacity, and not emotionally compromised. The subtitles when this scene starts says something like “Post-Traumatic Baseline Test”. They give their replicant officers this test every time they “retire” a replicant to see if the “retirement” they committed hasn’t messed up their brain.
It's the reverse of the VK test. It's to measure if the replicant is becoming too "human"
Tony J Hernandez whoa, thats cool
One of the nuances in the movie that a lot of people seem to have missed is that it actually doesn't matter if K was faking or genuinely has no emotions when taking the test the first time. They don't care if replicants can feel; they only care if they're obedient and do their job.
It's a stab towards the concept of professionalism in a corporate environment. It doesn't matter to a company what a manager feels when he fires 50 people or a police officer feels when beat up protesters; as long as they do what the system requires.
Forsen
I honest don't know what these lines mean. Repeating the same words and meaningless questions over and over
정진우 These words would usually exhibit an emotional response, but replicants are not allowed to feel emotion. The camera scans their body language for any emotion whenever they have to repeat the words said to test to see if the replicants are on their baseline. If not, they will be terminated.
Yea it's the Vk test from the original only in reverse. To test in order to see if the replicant is showing too much humanity. K was off his baseline at the end and should've been killed right then and there but his boss let him leave the building
역병으사 I think they were meant to be monitoring K's iris reactions and response times to see if he was feeling fear, stress etc.
Congrats you're a cyborg