The choreography in this and the next few episodes is 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾 Also, yes, while Kid Buu did attempt to blow up the Kai Planet, it’s considerably larger than Namek, and is surprisingly durable, despite the ludicrous amount of damage that this fight inflicts upon it.
This Kid Buu fight, especially these filler scenes and all the mistranslated statements in the anime are the biggest logic test ever😂 Goku is saying stuff like ”you are twice as strong as before” yet he was fighting Kid Buu in SSJ2 only, while he refused to fight even *base* Super Buu without fusion ”because he would kill them”, let alone Buutenks / Buuhan who both absolutely required Fusion to have any kind of chance against lmao (don’t forget Goku was ready to fuse even with Mr Satan to fight Buuhan, rather than try alone) But the logic test is not passed just yet😂 Kyle is already saying stuff like ”Kid Buu is a menace, and we thought Super Buu was crazy!” Even though Kid Buu was being slapped around by a ssj2, who is fodder compared to Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks, who were required to do anything against base Super Buu, and neither were enough against Buutenks and Buuhan😂 it required VEGITO to fight Buuhan lol. For context, this whole episode apart of the beginning is filler; in the manga, Goku goes straight to ssj3 and that whole ”twice as strong” line is not there. And neither is any other ”he is stronger than ever” line. Those lines were originally mentioning how *dangerous* Kid Buu is due to his unpredictable nature, which is true.
It’s funny because even though I saw this as a kid, I never got tricked by the mistranslations. I figured out immediately Kid Buu was much weaker when he was fighting Goku and Vegeta. I knew there was no way SSJ2 Goku was stronger than Gohan and Gotenks.
Yeah it's similar to how in the cell saga goku in the dub sounds way more confident in a fight between him and cell with alot of his diaoloue involving gohan be altered up until his fight with cell were it can kinda feel like it comes out of nowhere due to those changes.
@@ultimate9046 Atleast they did a better job with Kai. They never knew that DBZ would get so popular when they first dubbed it. They probably thought that only a few children would watch it until they get old.
Sorry, but. Daisenshuu already confirmed that Buuhan is the strongest iteration of Buu by far. Kid Buu is only the most DANGEROUS because he is effectively pure evil without any restraints or influences. This debate is tired and has already been addressed.
@@melvondrewhite2674 Toriyama himself said Buuhan is the strongest in a interview back in the day. The dub suffers from quite a few translation issues.
@@troymindwrite7850 well it didn’t happen in the manga, but also ssj3 goku would be whooped fat super buu as well, so point stays similar for manga anyways. But definitely true to the anime portrayal
19:30 in the manga (volume 42), Goku went straight to SSJ3 against Kid Buu and never said that. But let's say that Goku was comparing him to Fat Buu as someone wrote.
11:55 "Explain" no problem, even though its non-canon remember when broly was transforming in the first broly movie? His energy was so high it changed the energy in the atmosphere or something. Basically, my point is goku and kid buu are fighting on that level of power that Broly had (Galaxy level) and remember those movies took place in an alternate universe where although they were only super saiyans they were an amped up version of our heroes. Goku's super saiyan in that movie is probably equal to our main timeline Goku's super saiyan 2. Also goku saying kid buu is twice as strong a before is anime version only which means even though I said movie ssj Goku = canon ssj2 Goku that was BEFORE THE vegito stuff because if he really is THAT strong and Goku admitted they still couldn't beat super buu then somehow Goku and Vegeta got a fairly massive zenkai boost and are almost on vegito level BY THEMSELVES. Meaning Kid Buu > Buhhan in the anime but in the manga goku never says this so buuhan > kid buu in the manga aka REAL CANON
Its been weeks so idk if yall gon read this but The Kai world is a Galaxy sized planet that exists outside the universe, thats why u heard the characters say it feels different, and how supreme kai said they were back in the mortal plain
does this bring back ssj goku vs frieza vibes? maximum power on a dying planet, victor decides the fate of the whole universe, almost impossible to tell whos going to win the fight?
Goku was comparing strength of Kid Buu to Fat Buu, not Super Buu. If it was to Super Buu, then Goku and Vegeta have zero chance of winning, unless they fuse.
Ya are kinda slow you’ve been watching the show a while and I’m sure people have explained some of this stuff before 12:00 the surge in Goku and Kid buus power was cause ripples in the dimension. As for that attack kid buu throw earlier he was either controlling it or he had the energy bean lock on to gokus Ki signature so that even if he dogged it would just come back around like a heat seeking missile it’s a simple concept.
Their power makes the planet unstable and almost destroy it, and that planet is kais planet which is big ass planet and probably have the same size as the sun or way bigger than the sun
The real truth of about the power level confusion is that Toriyama didn't think it through and just had characters say things that sound cool, not to mention the anime adaptation and dub changes. It can be fun sometimes but legitimately trying to reconcile the inconsistencies in DBZ is a losing battle. 😅
Boohan > Bootenks > Ultimate Gohan >= Buff Boo > Super Boo = Ssj3 Gotenks >>> post training ssj Gotenks >= Ssj3 goku >= Kid Boo > Fat Boo. NOTHING in the manga supports Kid Boo. Not a single piece of scaling data. While in the anime, only 1-2 lines support Kid Boo, and those were filler! The rest of the anime follows the manga script, which is strictly Super Boo > Kid Boo in raw power, several times over. There is only a single character stated to weaken Boo from absorption, and that was Dia Kai. He was mentioned by name in the manga as the absorption that caused Boo to become weaker. Not even South Kai. Bootenks outright said he was the strongest boo in history. As he finally bypassed the level Buff Boo was. Goku directly said he stood no chance against Super Boo without fusion, and refused to even try without fusing. Then for Kid Boo was certain right through the end that his ssj3 had the capability to destroy Kid Boo. Certain enough to allow Vegeta to risk everything to buy him the time needed. People like to mentioned the “ki increasing” statement after the Good Boo pod was pulled. But that statement was given for the BUFF Boo form. Before he regressed into Kid Boo. One moment Goku says no to fighting Super Boo, is shitting his pants to Buff Boo, and then Is eager to fight Kid Boo and says he can win even after fighting. Even referring to Boo as “on his own now too”. All of which implies a huge drop in power from Buff Boo to Kid Boo. Buff Boo > Super Boo > Kid Boo. Hell, Super Boo is even visually designed as the middle ground between Buff Boo and Kid Boo. Goku was very pleased at the thought of having Gohan come to fight Kid Boo. And also said when the fusion split that GOHAN can now beat Booccolo without then having to fuse. People also like to mentioned the Genki Dama as evidence since Kid Boo was able to stop it. But for one, there’s nothing saying Super Boo wouldn’t have been able to do the same or better. And two, the ONLY reason Kid Boo managed that was because of Gokus remaining power wasn’t strong enough to throw the bomb hard enough. The manga was very clear on that. The issue was Gokus remaining power, not the bomb itself. Not to mention the genki dama was made of genki, which is only one component to raw battle ki, and not all of Gohans or the kids battle power was in the bomb, only their genki. Further supported by the fact Gohans entire group including him were only in their BASE forms. Not in Ultimate, not in SSJ, and not fused. And you cannot access the power of an advanced form you are not in, so therefore the full battle battle of the form was not in the bomb. Even with basic scaling. Goku needed ssj3 to even attempt to fight Fat Boo. Then Super Boo came along and at a severely suppressed level, less than 1/8 his max (based on the standard ssj multipliers and the fact that ssj3 gotenks was equal to Super Boo), was able to display more power than Fat Boo. For Goku to be at even the level of Super Boo, it would mean his normal Ssj form would have been above Fat Boo, as well as Ssj Gotenks. Which clearly is not the case. Basically if you are claiming Kid Boo to be above Super Boo, you are indirectly saying Ssj Goku > post training Ssj Gotenks, despite the fact pre training Ssj Gotenks was Fat Boo tier.
I always feel like the filler of ssj2 Goku Vs buu should of just been vegeta and then he gets beaten instead of the only thing vegeta doing in this fight is buying time, also I believe kid buu is very much beaten like a Pokémon, you can't catch him until you weaken him first. Just blowing him up isn't enough you have to weaken him to the point that he can't regenerate as fast
Just as a heads up, kid buu is actually the weakest buu which is why they realised they wouldnt need the Potara fusion, also why they decided to do 1v1s instead lf double teaming buu. What Goku said was a dub translation error.
Man not trynna correct y’all but he was talking about fat buu not super boo when he says twice as strong cuz he didn’t try to fight super boo why would he be eager to fight someone who is stronger
The dub has mistranslation.. meaning that mistranslations are false lol... very simple concept to understand.. kid buu is 2x stronger then no one. We dont know how much stronger he is then fat buu so we cant say 2x because it was mistranslated...Goku and vegeta would NEVER play rock paper scissors against base super buu.. goku was scared of super buu not scared of kid buu
Best animated episode of DBZ. Love this fight.
The choreography in this and the next few episodes is 🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾🤌🏾
Also, yes, while Kid Buu did attempt to blow up the Kai Planet, it’s considerably larger than Namek, and is surprisingly durable, despite the ludicrous amount of damage that this fight inflicts upon it.
This ep animation drawn by Keisuke Masunaga !
What a amazing man !!!
And he drawn in Super too !!
Can't wait!
Man Sean’s voice acting for Goku during fighting is incredible
Amazing🔥
Best animeted ever ❤️
Best Goku face
Best art style
No1 ep
The fight begins. Gonna be crazy
This Kid Buu fight, especially these filler scenes and all the mistranslated statements in the anime are the biggest logic test ever😂 Goku is saying stuff like ”you are twice as strong as before” yet he was fighting Kid Buu in SSJ2 only, while he refused to fight even *base* Super Buu without fusion ”because he would kill them”, let alone Buutenks / Buuhan who both absolutely required Fusion to have any kind of chance against lmao (don’t forget Goku was ready to fuse even with Mr Satan to fight Buuhan, rather than try alone)
But the logic test is not passed just yet😂 Kyle is already saying stuff like ”Kid Buu is a menace, and we thought Super Buu was crazy!” Even though Kid Buu was being slapped around by a ssj2, who is fodder compared to Gohan and SSJ3 Gotenks, who were required to do anything against base Super Buu, and neither were enough against Buutenks and Buuhan😂 it required VEGITO to fight Buuhan lol.
For context, this whole episode apart of the beginning is filler; in the manga, Goku goes straight to ssj3 and that whole ”twice as strong” line is not there. And neither is any other ”he is stronger than ever” line. Those lines were originally mentioning how *dangerous* Kid Buu is due to his unpredictable nature, which is true.
It’s funny because even though I saw this as a kid, I never got tricked by the mistranslations. I figured out immediately Kid Buu was much weaker when he was fighting Goku and Vegeta.
I knew there was no way SSJ2 Goku was stronger than Gohan and Gotenks.
Yeah, I hope they see this. However only guy has the chance to read the comments since the other ones don't want to get spoiled.
Yeah it's similar to how in the cell saga goku in the dub sounds way more confident in a fight between him and cell with alot of his diaoloue involving gohan be altered up until his fight with cell were it can kinda feel like it comes out of nowhere due to those changes.
@@ultimate9046 Atleast they did a better job with Kai. They never knew that DBZ would get so popular when they first dubbed it. They probably thought that only a few children would watch it until they get old.
@@kingdomofentertainment5513 true it also tuned down piccolo's weird aggression towards some of the characters
8:03 I like Goku's little counter-manuver.
Kid Buu is doing a trope of when a gorilla beats its chest. It’s supposed to be a sign of dominance.
I'm sure dominance is a part of it, but I think it's really just to show how primal and instinctual Kid Buu is, compared to prior forms.
@@raveoreynolds6049 oh for sure. I meant that gorillas do it as a sign of dominance.
That is twice as strong as Fat Buu. Goku hasn't fought against Super Buu in his normal form
While I love the original Dub they did make quite a few mistakes. Buuhan for example is the strongest incarnation of buu. Hopefully Alex is told this
No , Twice As Strong As Superbuu LIKE GOKU SAID ! Don’t Act Stupid . 😂
Sorry, but. Daisenshuu already confirmed that Buuhan is the strongest iteration of Buu by far. Kid Buu is only the most DANGEROUS because he is effectively pure evil without any restraints or influences. This debate is tired and has already been addressed.
@@TheEmery223 Sorry But Daishnuuu Is IRRELEVANT 😂👏🏽 .. He Doesn’t Know Wtf He’s Talking About , Kid Buu Is The STRONGEST & BETTER Version By Far !
@@melvondrewhite2674 Toriyama himself said Buuhan is the strongest in a interview back in the day. The dub suffers from quite a few translation issues.
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Keisuke Masunaga !
What a legend man
What a legend episode
I hope to see more animated drawn by him .
Let goooooo
We so close to the end of Z !
Yessssss YESSSSSS!!! 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🤣🤣🤣🎯 LET’S FUCKING GET IT!
The fight has started. The fate of the universe
this episode and the next two are the best animated
The reason goku is doing well as ssj2 here is because kid buu is weaker than super buu ever was, but he’s still an extremely powerful foe.
Negative. This fight never technically happened it's filler
@@troymindwrite7850 well it didn’t happen in the manga, but also ssj3 goku would be whooped fat super buu as well, so point stays similar for manga anyways. But definitely true to the anime portrayal
Kid Buu is the ultimate menace in this series. Happy Monday guys, great reaction can't wait for next one soon :)
Kid Buu is a different animal.
The art was on point this episode
19:30 in the manga (volume 42), Goku went straight to SSJ3 against Kid Buu and never said that.
But let's say that Goku was comparing him to Fat Buu as someone wrote.
Lol they forgot Hercule and Bee!
11:55 "Explain" no problem, even though its non-canon remember when broly was transforming in the first broly movie? His energy was so high it changed the energy in the atmosphere or something. Basically, my point is goku and kid buu are fighting on that level of power that Broly had (Galaxy level) and remember those movies took place in an alternate universe where although they were only super saiyans they were an amped up version of our heroes. Goku's super saiyan in that movie is probably equal to our main timeline Goku's super saiyan 2. Also goku saying kid buu is twice as strong a before is anime version only which means even though I said movie ssj Goku = canon ssj2 Goku that was BEFORE THE vegito stuff because if he really is THAT strong and Goku admitted they still couldn't beat super buu then somehow Goku and Vegeta got a fairly massive zenkai boost and are almost on vegito level BY THEMSELVES. Meaning Kid Buu > Buhhan in the anime but in the manga goku never says this so buuhan > kid buu in the manga aka REAL CANON
Its been weeks so idk if yall gon read this but The Kai world is a Galaxy sized planet that exists outside the universe, thats why u heard the characters say it feels different, and how supreme kai said they were back in the mortal plain
does this bring back ssj goku vs frieza vibes? maximum power on a dying planet, victor decides the fate of the whole universe, almost impossible to tell whos going to win the fight?
Dope review fellas, still wish they would have had Gotenks and Gohan here too, so they could have gang stump Buu out
The old kai said that the planet is very durable i think you need more than planet busting power to destroy it
Great art style in this episode
Yo man we need that instrumental when you guys discuss the episode
If I hear that damn word let's go one more time or that's nice I'm a fucking go crazy I wish they'd stop saying that
God. It’s time
This fight never occurred in the manga. There's no way SSJ2 Goku can take Majin Buu
@Iamthereal_RS Yeah but it doesn't make sense. SSJ2 Goku should've gotten ragdolled just like Vegeta did
Goku was comparing strength of Kid Buu to Fat Buu, not Super Buu. If it was to Super Buu, then Goku and Vegeta have zero chance of winning, unless they fuse.
Chest pound is a display of dominance in Asian culture
Ya are kinda slow you’ve been watching the show a while and I’m sure people have explained some of this stuff before 12:00 the surge in Goku and Kid buus power was cause ripples in the dimension. As for that attack kid buu throw earlier he was either controlling it or he had the energy bean lock on to gokus Ki signature so that even if he dogged it would just come back around like a heat seeking missile it’s a simple concept.
Rock 👊 Paper 🤚 Scissor ✌️ 🤣😂
The dialogue makes it kind of confusing but canonically Kid Buu is the most dangerous and wild buu. But super buu gohan is the strongest.
Their power makes the planet unstable and almost destroy it, and that planet is kais planet which is big ass planet and probably have the same size as the sun or way bigger than the sun
The real truth of about the power level confusion is that Toriyama didn't think it through and just had characters say things that sound cool, not to mention the anime adaptation and dub changes.
It can be fun sometimes but legitimately trying to reconcile the inconsistencies in DBZ is a losing battle. 😅
Boohan > Bootenks > Ultimate Gohan >= Buff Boo > Super Boo = Ssj3 Gotenks >>> post training ssj Gotenks >= Ssj3 goku >= Kid Boo > Fat Boo.
NOTHING in the manga supports Kid Boo. Not a single piece of scaling data. While in the anime, only 1-2 lines support Kid Boo, and those were filler! The rest of the anime follows the manga script, which is strictly Super Boo > Kid Boo in raw power, several times over.
There is only a single character stated to weaken Boo from absorption, and that was Dia Kai. He was mentioned by name in the manga as the absorption that caused Boo to become weaker. Not even South Kai.
Bootenks outright said he was the strongest boo in history. As he finally bypassed the level Buff Boo was.
Goku directly said he stood no chance against Super Boo without fusion, and refused to even try without fusing. Then for Kid Boo was certain right through the end that his ssj3 had the capability to destroy Kid Boo. Certain enough to allow Vegeta to risk everything to buy him the time needed.
People like to mentioned the “ki increasing” statement after the Good Boo pod was pulled. But that statement was given for the BUFF Boo form. Before he regressed into Kid Boo.
One moment Goku says no to fighting Super Boo, is shitting his pants to Buff Boo, and then Is eager to fight Kid Boo and says he can win even after fighting. Even referring to Boo as “on his own now too”. All of which implies a huge drop in power from Buff Boo to Kid Boo.
Buff Boo > Super Boo > Kid Boo. Hell, Super Boo is even visually designed as the middle ground between Buff Boo and Kid Boo.
Goku was very pleased at the thought of having Gohan come to fight Kid Boo. And also said when the fusion split that GOHAN can now beat Booccolo without then having to fuse.
People also like to mentioned the Genki Dama as evidence since Kid Boo was able to stop it. But for one, there’s nothing saying Super Boo wouldn’t have been able to do the same or better. And two, the ONLY reason Kid Boo managed that was because of Gokus remaining power wasn’t strong enough to throw the bomb hard enough. The manga was very clear on that. The issue was Gokus remaining power, not the bomb itself. Not to mention the genki dama was made of genki, which is only one component to raw battle ki, and not all of Gohans or the kids battle power was in the bomb, only their genki. Further supported by the fact Gohans entire group including him were only in their BASE forms. Not in Ultimate, not in SSJ, and not fused. And you cannot access the power of an advanced form you are not in, so therefore the full battle battle of the form was not in the bomb.
Even with basic scaling.
Goku needed ssj3 to even attempt to fight Fat Boo. Then Super Boo came along and at a severely suppressed level, less than 1/8 his max (based on the standard ssj multipliers and the fact that ssj3 gotenks was equal to Super Boo), was able to display more power than Fat Boo.
For Goku to be at even the level of Super Boo, it would mean his normal Ssj form would have been above Fat Boo, as well as Ssj Gotenks. Which clearly is not the case.
Basically if you are claiming Kid Boo to be above Super Boo, you are indirectly saying Ssj Goku > post training Ssj Gotenks, despite the fact pre training Ssj Gotenks was Fat Boo tier.
Let's goo
Wouldn't the 2x as strong is he was before refers to fat buu
Que pasa con los subtítulos?????? Ya desde el anterior video no tiene subtitulos en español
I always feel like the filler of ssj2 Goku Vs buu should of just been vegeta and then he gets beaten instead of the only thing vegeta doing in this fight is buying time, also I believe kid buu is very much beaten like a Pokémon, you can't catch him until you weaken him first. Just blowing him up isn't enough you have to weaken him to the point that he can't regenerate as fast
Just as a heads up, kid buu is actually the weakest buu which is why they realised they wouldnt need the Potara fusion, also why they decided to do 1v1s instead lf double teaming buu. What Goku said was a dub translation error.
No , What Goku Said Is 100% Correct ! Kid Buu Is The STRONGEST 💯💯
@@melvondrewhite2674stop trolling
@@TheoOJamaloO1 You Stop Trolling , Kid Buu Is The Strongest & Everybody KNOWS IT !
Bryan Kid Buu is not stronger than Super Buu, Kid Buu is the most ruthless and evil out of all of them and Buuhan is the strongest 1
Man not trynna correct y’all but he was talking about fat buu not super boo when he says twice as strong cuz he didn’t try to fight super boo why would he be eager to fight someone who is stronger
Same reason he likes fighting stronger ppl in super
@@roxasbaker yea but goku knew wasn’t a dummy when it came to his opponents if he knew before hand how strong they were
Especially in a situations where goku did have whis or beerus or vegeta that’s equally strong to help out
He didn’t say he was twice as strong as super buu.. you’re adding context..
English dub change alert lol. The King Kai's never fought Buu. Only heard tales.
Alright the anime is just trying to hype up kid buu,he’s not the strongest buu
They know how powerful he is and he’s not that powerful.. yall don’t pay attention
The dub has mistranslation.. meaning that mistranslations are false lol... very simple concept to understand.. kid buu is 2x stronger then no one. We dont know how much stronger he is then fat buu so we cant say 2x because it was mistranslated...Goku and vegeta would NEVER play rock paper scissors against base super buu.. goku was scared of super buu not scared of kid buu
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A Very disappointing arc. The hype rally stopped at cell saga
Kid Buu Is TWICE AS STRONG As Superbuu , Goku Got It Right ! 💯
He’s not
@@footballfan283 He Is .
@@melvondrewhite2674 not really
@@footballfan283 He Is .
@@footballfan283super Buu base and kid buu still debatable to me
He meant twice as strong as fat buu not super buu