I see several comments about hot water, and no doubt that could have been the intent as well, I would be hard pressed to put water in there, if I can heat water on top and use the oven space with a small cast iron though, but that my very well have been the original intent for sure-Good thinking guys!
+wildernessoutfitters I think instead of pouring water straight in the open space you could run a coil of copper tubbing in there and use it to heat water. That way it would be a lot easier to seal up. Good find!
+4570levergun That's the way to go. My father did that. He built a rectangular tank about 5 inches wide behind the wood stove the same size as the stove. In the tank was about 10' to 15' of copper pipe. The tank was filled with water, the heating pipe ran through the tank. One problem was the water in the tank would boil and expanded the tank. So he added pressure relief value on the tank (never blow). Also had a relief value on pipe coming out of the tank, which was needed.
Hi Dave, Long time fan. I watched an hour talk you did at a preppers gathering recently and you talked a lot about practical things we'll need to survive the hard times. Blacksmithing, woodworking, etc... You also discussed very briefly raising livestock. I'm planning on chickens and maybe more this spring and was wondering if you could start a livestock series. Show us how you raise your americana chickens and more. If not I understand you're a busy man, had to try though. ;)
+wildernessoutfitters It looks like a homemade coal furnace, My Grandparents old house had a coal furnace in the basement, it was a little stove like that, theirs was round and a little bit fancier. that little stove would heat their whole house some 3500 square feet
thanks for explaining the anatomy of the stove - good explanation of the firebox. Also good to see it seasoned with olive oil rather than the stove black paint - the oil makes more sense to me, and will try on my own project
Nice stove. I would had most likely grabbed it too if I saw it for scrap steel prices. I hope it works well as an oven. My wood stove uses an air chamber around the back with a blower to force hot air into the room. It is very effective. That combined with a reburning chamber to burn the smoke and it is very efficient at heating the house.
Hey Dave, We used this kind of stove in our sauna back home to heat and pipe water to a shower. Looked almost exactly the same. Down to the welded on but used as a bulkhead fitting for the copper tubing coming down from the 3 gal tank that sat on top of the firebox
Back in my Boy Scout days, we had a sheet steel stove that had a water box that sat on the back with the chimney running through it to supply hot water. Still had most of the top available for cooking as well.
::High-5:: Wonderful Scrapyard Score!! I very much look forward to hot tent camping vids this winter!!! Speaking of hot tent camping vids, take a road trip to the Adirondacks of Northern New York State, there is a plethora of state land where camping is remote and free. Just look out for the lake effect snow storms off of Lake Erie and Ontario.
Wow, that's amazing. The old expression is true, one mans trash is another mans treasure. Took no time at all to clean that up and make it usable again, it almost looks brand new. Grab an iron skillet and your in for some good ol' campfire cookin'
AN ALTERNATIVE UNDERSTANDING: The pipe fitting reminds me of a feature on a wood-fired kitchen stove our family had when I was a kid -- I'll be 70 in a few months. Our stove was used for cooking on the top surface, and had a built-in water tank that circulated water around the sides and back of the firebox. We filled the tanks through a hatch on the top, and drew hot water from a tap down low on the side. And I have doubts that the top your stove would be very effective as a cooking surface because the steel would likely disperse the heat over the entire surface area, though I am open to persuasion by demonstration. Perhaps the rust pattern on the inside of the outer chamber can shed light on the water-heater theory. In short, I think you have scored nicely on a small, wood-fired water heater, and I look forward to seeing how well it works for cooking.
Very nice find! I think it was designed to have water in chamber, so you could have hot water for cooking/cleaning washing up! Anyway great job giving it another life. Ron.
I suggest adding a length of stovepipe, with fins of some kind, so that you can recover even more of the heat that's going out with that smoke. It also should add to the draft.
Dave you could show your skills to us all by building a wood burner from a gas bottle. Using your own ideas and design, we could all get a gas bottle from somewhere. Love that stove...
i was thinking..i am sure you are correct about the forced air...but..if you put a water tap on the outlet..and poured a 5 gallon bucket of water into it..the thermal mass would go up..plus you would have hot water....and like you pointed out a oven with proper fire control..all in all a pretty awesome find..thanks for showing it..
First off, thanks for all the videos. I think I would get rid of the handle on top that is taking up cooking area and put a door on the front like a normal oven with suspended racks inside
With the oven aspect in mind I know it would be easy to just set something like a pot of stew right on top of the burner box but I think by adding an inner rack just above the inner fire box would be sweeter, and the rack would still allow for a forced air movement thru the little hole thingy.
I forgot the name of the product but I buy it at my paint store, It converts rust into a paintable surface. I think it is simply called Rust Converter but it turns it black and is a crazy good product. No sanding required.
Great find great video. I have an old cast iron wood stove think I'll clean it up and season too. That one looked good. That was just olive oil you put on it?
My Grand dad had something similar on his eastern Nebraska farm. If I recall correctly it was a locally made "Shed" or shop heater. His didn't have the threaded fitting, that might be a personally done modification. I do remember his having fire brick or some sort of masonry on the sides of the fire box and about an inch thick slab of soapstone on top as thermal mass. otherwise it looks like a great find!
That there is a hot water heater for a hunting camp that uses gravity flow for water pressure. My uncle has one very similar to it in his small camp cabin.
the old school formula for stove black is to mix Lamp Black (black pigment) with dry graphite and turpentine for a solvent. You mix and then spread on the stove and light it up. The smoke produced from the burning turpentine would smoke out the bugs of the log cabin during spring cleaning. that looks more like a heat exchanger then a stove. the interior could be used as a oven or smoker chamber or heated air exchanger as mentioned in the video.
That is a pretty nice stove. I might make another top for it (no handle on top) for more convenient cooking. You could easily use your hand bellows to push a little air through the stove. You might even be able to adjust the oven temperature that way. Granted, you would have to babysit it, and use a thermometer to watch the internal temp. But simple cooking thermometers are cheap, easy to find at the dollar store, and certainly won't add any appreciable weight to the stove.
I would forge up some 3/4" stock for a set of handles on the side. hot rivet them in. than weld some pices of heavy angle steel on the inside for a cast-iron grill rack for ur oven idea. but that would be an awesome tent stove. awesome finds
this is just too cool ! Dave, be patient with me here...,the metal sheet that separates the fire box/oven section, does that have holes in it ? and also does the 3/4 inch tube run inside the firebox and up into the oven section ? thanks man !!! PAPA DUKES
with that open area over the fire box you could after cooking baking add some fire brick in there as thermal mass source.It would add extra heat without the extra fuel being consumed.
could you put a tap (faucet) on the threaded pipe, fill it with water and use it as a hot water source for washing up etc, or as a thermal mass, so that it would radiate heat long after the fire was out.
Well, the part above the fire box can be really used for baking..... I saw a blue print for such an oven in an old german WWII book from my grandfather. I try to find the sorce material
Getting it all derusted, then totally shellac enamelled (with vegetable oil) like a cast iron cooking equipment, making a totally enamelled surface, it will be rust proof, cook even, and be a great stove.
Not enough rust on the inside for hot water system IMO. Would be great for baking, not so much for cooking on top because of the air buffer. That's why a lot if old stoves have round access holes on top -allows for direct heat on pots (also to feed stove with)
If you haven't done so, you're going to want to sand out and season the interior of the "air box" as well, especially if you intend to use it as an oven. A wire grating or standoff for inside wouldn't be a bad idea, as well - to get your cookware off the immediate surface of the firebox so you don't fry your baking food.
You can wrap copper tubing around the pipe in a coil and attach it to a tank hot water rises also and cooler water will take its place . btw dutch oven some beans in that oven man that's gonna be killer
Are you sure that fitting isnt used for water heating? The inside of the box looked like it had more rust and the fitting was at the lowest point of the stove. Fill the top, and hot water comes out the bottom.
Thanks Dave. Enjoying all the variety lately.
That is a very nice stove. One hell of a find in your scrap yard. Can't wait to see the cooking videos
Awesome! What a find...a real blessing for sure! Not just for you Dave, but for all of us watching 😀👍🏻
I see several comments about hot water, and no doubt that could have been the intent as well, I would be hard pressed to put water in there, if I can heat water on top and use the oven space with a small cast iron though, but that my very well have been the original intent for sure-Good thinking guys!
+wildernessoutfitters I think instead of pouring water straight in the open space you could run a coil of copper tubbing in there and use it to heat water. That way it would be a lot easier to seal up. Good find!
+wildernessoutfitters or fill the open space with rocks in tent and you have sauna! also works as long lasting heating element.
+4570levergun That's the way to go. My father did that. He built a rectangular tank about 5 inches wide behind the wood stove the same size as the stove. In the tank was about 10' to 15' of copper pipe. The tank was filled with water, the heating pipe ran through the tank. One problem was the water in the tank would boil and expanded the tank. So he added pressure relief value on the tank (never blow). Also had a relief value on pipe coming out of the tank, which was needed.
Hi Dave,
Long time fan. I watched an hour talk you did at a preppers gathering recently and you talked a lot about practical things we'll need to survive the hard times. Blacksmithing, woodworking, etc... You also discussed very briefly raising livestock. I'm planning on chickens and maybe more this spring and was wondering if you could start a livestock series. Show us how you raise your americana chickens and more.
If not I understand you're a busy man, had to try though. ;)
+wildernessoutfitters It looks like a homemade coal furnace, My Grandparents old house had a coal furnace in the basement, it was a little stove like that, theirs was round and a little bit fancier. that little stove would heat their whole house some 3500 square feet
thanks for explaining the anatomy of the stove - good explanation of the firebox. Also good to see it seasoned with olive oil rather than the stove black paint - the oil makes more sense to me, and will try on my own project
Nice find - one of the more solid tent stoves I've seen. It didn't take much to bring it back to working order.
That's a nice size .........great for the outdoors !! Thanks for Sharing......ThumbZ UP !!!
Dave, that is a serious find! Wow! I'm looking forward to seeing it in use.
Nice stove. I would had most likely grabbed it too if I saw it for scrap steel prices. I hope it works well as an oven.
My wood stove uses an air chamber around the back with a blower to force hot air into the room. It is very effective. That combined with a reburning chamber to burn the smoke and it is very efficient at heating the house.
Hey Dave,
We used this kind of stove in our sauna back home to heat and pipe water to a shower. Looked almost exactly the same. Down to the welded on but used as a bulkhead fitting for the copper tubing coming down from the 3 gal tank that sat on top of the firebox
Great find Dave!
Great find! Good old wood heat always one of my favorite topics...and axes chopping wood for the stove : )
Great revival of somebody's great idea. Looking forward to seeing how well it works.
great find dave! thx for sharing.
Back in my Boy Scout days, we had a sheet steel stove that had a water box that sat on the back with the chimney running through it to supply hot water. Still had most of the top available for cooking as well.
Need to see more! Thinking of welding something up like this!
Awesome video Dave keep it up
::High-5:: Wonderful Scrapyard Score!! I very much look forward to hot tent camping vids this winter!!! Speaking of hot tent camping vids, take a road trip to the Adirondacks of Northern New York State, there is a plethora of state land where camping is remote and free. Just look out for the lake effect snow storms off of Lake Erie and Ontario.
Wow, that's amazing. The old expression is true, one mans trash is another mans treasure. Took no time at all to clean that up and make it usable again, it almost looks brand new.
Grab an iron skillet and your in for some good ol' campfire cookin'
Great find ! Good luck.
Another good video. Thans Dave. Regards from Sweden
Wicked nice find.... Thanks for sharing...
not going to lie I want to build one. I've made a couple of stoves out of scrap from work and this one has so many good ideas all in one.
Nice find Dave that could be used for baking on top or fill it with sand to retain heat or plug the bottom for water.
Awesome find!!
thats one hell of a find. nice one!
Baking and cooking were the first things that came to mind when I saw you take the top off to expose the chamber..
What a well thought out design. Have you ever seen a stove like this before? Like your videos. Thanks.
This is an awesome unit.
Awesome device!
Great metal building project - I might have to build one of those for myself, Looks pretty simple to build.
that is awesome...now I am inspired to make own version of one of those!!
AN ALTERNATIVE UNDERSTANDING: The pipe fitting reminds me of a feature on a wood-fired kitchen stove our family had when I was a kid -- I'll be 70 in a few months. Our stove was used for cooking on the top surface, and had a built-in water tank that circulated water around the sides and back of the firebox. We filled the tanks through a hatch on the top, and drew hot water from a tap down low on the side. And I have doubts that the top your stove would be very effective as a cooking surface because the steel would likely disperse the heat over the entire surface area, though I am open to persuasion by demonstration. Perhaps the rust pattern on the inside of the outer chamber can shed light on the water-heater theory. In short, I think you have scored nicely on a small, wood-fired water heater, and I look forward to seeing how well it works for cooking.
That's a fantastic find
Very nice find! I think it was designed to have water in chamber, so you could have hot water for cooking/cleaning washing up! Anyway great job giving it another life. Ron.
I suggest adding a length of stovepipe, with fins of some kind, so that you can recover even more of the heat that's going out with that smoke. It also should add to the draft.
that could also be a camp stove for melting snow you make hot water great job Dave thanks again
Dave you could show your skills to us all by building a wood burner from a gas bottle.
Using your own ideas and design, we could all get a gas bottle from somewhere.
Love that stove...
Nice find!
enlighten us Dave, what's it like to always be the manliest guy in the room?
Great job keep on!
I think it was for a steam room because of the water jacket and the holes in the top very cool find
Dave, Is it possible that that is a water tight space, and that it was used to hunidify the air and provide on demand hot water?
i was thinking..i am sure you are correct about the forced air...but..if you put a water tap on the outlet..and poured a 5 gallon bucket of water into it..the thermal mass would go up..plus you would have hot water....and like you pointed out a oven with proper fire control..all in all a pretty awesome find..thanks for showing it..
Awesome video btw!
Nice find.
I think you could also fill up the free space in the oven with rocks, so it stores a lot of heat.
First off, thanks for all the videos. I think I would get rid of the handle on top that is taking up cooking area and put a door on the front like a normal oven with suspended racks inside
With the oven aspect in mind I know it would be easy to just set something like a pot of stew right on top of the burner box but I think by adding an inner rack just above the inner fire box would be sweeter, and the rack would still allow for a forced air movement thru the little hole thingy.
That was a good find....I'm thinking a bread maker inside there...muffins, cakes....it's unlimited the versatility of that oven-stove.
I forgot the name of the product but I buy it at my paint store, It converts rust into a paintable surface. I think it is simply called Rust Converter but it turns it black and is a crazy good product. No sanding required.
+ArtisanTony Is it heat resistant?
nice buy thanks for sharing
Really nice find Dave, It looks simple enough. Do I see a future local made product to be offered from your store???
Great find great video. I have an old cast iron wood stove think I'll clean it up and season too. That one looked good. That was just olive oil you put on it?
My Grand dad had something similar on his eastern Nebraska farm. If I recall correctly it was a locally made "Shed" or shop heater. His didn't have the threaded fitting, that might be a personally done modification. I do remember his having fire brick or some sort of masonry on the sides of the fire box and about an inch thick slab of soapstone on top as thermal mass. otherwise it looks like a great find!
Great design.
Nice find! Thanks, --- Clark
That there is a hot water heater for a hunting camp that uses gravity flow for water pressure. My uncle has one very similar to it in his small camp cabin.
Looking forward to seeing it in action......
That's a pretty cool design. Someone knew what they were doing when they put that together.
Nice find.
the old school formula for stove black is to mix Lamp Black (black pigment) with dry graphite and turpentine for a solvent. You mix and then spread on the stove and light it up. The smoke produced from the burning turpentine would smoke out the bugs of the log cabin during spring cleaning.
that looks more like a heat exchanger then a stove. the interior could be used as a oven or smoker chamber or heated air exchanger as mentioned in the video.
what a great find
You could also line that chamber with fire brick to hold the heat and let it release slowly over time
That is a pretty nice stove. I might make another top for it (no handle on top) for more convenient cooking. You could easily use your hand bellows to push a little air through the stove. You might even be able to adjust the oven temperature that way. Granted, you would have to babysit it, and use a thermometer to watch the internal temp. But simple cooking thermometers are cheap, easy to find at the dollar store, and certainly won't add any appreciable weight to the stove.
I figured you used either a trivet and a flat bottomed cast iron pan, or a small dutch oven with legs to roast and bake in that space.
SCORE!!
Nice lil stove!
you could weld spacers on the fire box and use the heated cavity to bake in. i would also coat it in stove black.
Nice find
awesome find reminds me of something my dad would have made when i was a young un
Awesome find. You could maybe put a dutch oven inside that top!
I would forge up some 3/4" stock for a set of handles on the side. hot rivet them in. than weld some pices of heavy angle steel on the inside for a cast-iron grill rack for ur oven idea. but that would be an awesome tent stove. awesome finds
what type of grease did you use to coat the stove?
Great find :)
Wondering... Could you season the stove like you do a cast iron skillet to make a protective coating?
When restoring an old rusted wood stove, is it necessary to remove inside rust as well? Thanks.
Hey Dave like the video, and i was thinking jou can bake a bread in there as well.
this is just too cool ! Dave, be patient with me here...,the metal sheet that separates the fire box/oven section, does that have holes in it ? and also does the 3/4 inch tube run inside the firebox and up into the oven section ? thanks man !!! PAPA DUKES
Dave , Are you going to do any trapping this year , And what about the trappers cabin what's up with that and what about the yurt any plans for that.
WOW IT WOULD MAKE A GREAT CAMP STOVE.
If you added another tap at the top you could connect a water tank to it and use it as a thermo siphon water heater for large quantities of water.
Could you use that area inside- above the fire box as a baking oven for bread or Pizza?
nice find
with that open area over the fire box you could after cooking baking add some fire brick in there as thermal mass source.It would add extra heat without the extra fuel being consumed.
what was the stuff he was rubbing on the stove in the green bottle?
What's the product that you're using to season the stove?
could you put a tap (faucet) on the threaded pipe, fill it with water and use it as a hot water source for washing up etc, or as a thermal mass, so that it would radiate heat long after the fire was out.
Well, the part above the fire box can be really used for baking..... I saw a blue print for such an oven in an old german WWII book from my grandfather. I try to find the sorce material
Getting it all derusted, then totally shellac enamelled (with vegetable oil) like a cast iron cooking equipment, making a totally enamelled surface, it will be rust proof, cook even, and be a great stove.
Livestock tank heater?
seems like it could be for warming water
@Wildernessoutfitters how is this working
What that green stuff your using?
as usual a great vid
i guess u cud use it also as a convection oven or to roast things in gud multi purpose cooking/heating stove
As sturdy as the flue appears to be you could use a chrome exhaust stack off a semi truck for a free standing chimney.
Bro, that's for heating water. Awesome find!
LOL! Sorry, I should have read the other comments before commenting :)
It's a water heater the holes on top are to vent steam
Not enough rust on the inside for hot water system IMO. Would be great for baking, not so much for cooking on top because of the air buffer. That's why a lot if old stoves have round access holes on top -allows for direct heat on pots (also to feed stove with)
If you haven't done so, you're going to want to sand out and season the interior of the "air box" as well, especially if you intend to use it as an oven. A wire grating or standoff for inside wouldn't be a bad idea, as well - to get your cookware off the immediate surface of the firebox so you don't fry your baking food.
You can wrap copper tubing around the pipe in a coil and attach it to a tank hot water rises also and cooler water will take its place . btw dutch oven some beans in that oven man that's gonna be killer
Are you sure that fitting isnt used for water heating? The inside of the box looked like it had more rust and the fitting was at the lowest point of the stove. Fill the top, and hot water comes out the bottom.