Lol combinations of RLK, RLKK, RLRLKK, and hertas around the toms was all I did in my drum career and people were impressed... I played metal though.... the mike Portnoy technique.... Most of the stuff in this is much more creative than RLRL
I mostly play metal and my most overused fill is definitely single stroke rolls in groups of 2 or 4 followed by 2 kicks (let's say RLRL KKRL RLKK RLKK). it's really simple, effective and adjustable/versatile for accenting the riff, but I'm definitely guilty of overusing it lol
I couldn’t believe that a lot of people do these fills. I thought it was just me but I just watched the intro and felt like he’s been watching me while I drum! 😂
“Around the World” fill aka “Caveman fill.” John Bonham was the master of making that sound great! Also, one easy way to change up these fills (besides the ways you’re talking about) is to displace where in the bar you’re playing the fill (let’s say start on the and of 2 instead of 3). Helps your time and sounds funky!
Yes, and you can do different groupings, too. Like groups of 3 or 5, delineated by the accents. Then you go down the rabbit hole of metric modulation... 🙂
When Jared failed at his drumming it makes me Motivated because as much as he do as a professional Drummer and he failed that time. It boosted my self View on my drumming that I am not only one even the Pros made mistakes and I will Grind myself into its Finest. Thank you so much!!
I’ve been playing drums since I was 2 (26 years), and been playing professionally for about a decade. Here are some things I do every single day on my gigs. 1) drop my sticks 2) lose the “1” 3) miss my cymbals 4) whack myself in the face 5) straight up drop out in the middle of certain drum fills because I was too ambitious. I could go on and on. Don’t let anyone, including yourself, ever convince you that professionals are untouchable elites. The only difference between a professional, and a novice, aside from maybe a few key essential skills (solid meter, etc), is that we are making our mistakes in front of a bunch of people and for some reason are being paid to do that. Don’t ever be afraid to “fail”.
Back in the 70’s I owned vinyl records called “Drum Drops”. I believe the drummer was David Crigger. These were records with song length drum grooves and fills. That is where I first heard the Herta. As a 10-12 year old drummer it blew my mind and I HAD to learn it. So did my parents, my neighbors and all my bandmates! Yea, we all go through it! 🤣
I remember the first day where my hands did a herta and it felt like I was god lmao. These fills have there place! But they become so comfortable that your hands just go on autopilot and do them. Keep it up!
Thank you Jared..you are my inspiration..I just got my drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot..I always wanted to learn drumming right from my childhood but was not able to afford a kit or attend classes..it took 30 long years to buy my first ever drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot.. cheers from India!
The "Pat Boone Debbie Boone" fill reminded me of fills laid all over November Rain and some other songs from Use Your Illusion . Matt Sorum seems particularly fond of those.
this video reminds me of musicians who forget they aren't in the audience anymore. yes, all the familiar material gets boring, that means you've mastered it. if you think about performing like a magic act you'll realize that it's not about constantly chasing new material. excellent execution and moving the audience become a source for fulfillment in playing the same thing over and over. same thing with touring bands using the same setlist. on the road i would lose track of what day it was and what town we were in but i knew what song came next and that was my anchor to sanity. and pulling off the licks in the music and seeing the audience having the times of their life were what brought me joy. i hope this helps as much as your videos do.
I don't know why it would be that much different in English... Though I do think what makes it even more funny in Finnish is the fact that "taka" also means "behind". It's a wordplay that wouldn't work that well in English.
I generally overuse Bonham style triplets, but none of these except the second one. I can play all of them, they just never really fit with what I'm going for.
The Pat Boone, Debby Boone fills, I remember I learned it from listening to Matt Sorum playing on Guns'N'Roses, he could just play it so full and grand.
@@tommynikon2283 Charlie not only still plays in a rock band(rolling stones) he also plays in a jazz band( Charlie watts quintet) he is one of the most consistent and talented drummers of all time.
Another top tip I was once given was "see how far you can play just listening to the other musicians with NO FILLS AT ALL." Actually, very, very hard. Too many fills is similar to saying LIKE all the time. Totally agree: Love my Rotos!!!
I play classic rock in a southern rock band, I know what you're saying,we try to play exactly like the song we're playing, but I myself have much respect for Ringo,less is more, keep rocking everyone.
I am a true amateur, which means that my number of fills are very limited. I probably only have maybe 5 fills that I can really trust or rely on without having to worry about making any errors. And yes...my fills are simple as hell. But I can't tell you how much I would love to be able learn some more interesting ones.. like some of the ones you just did. You made me it look so easy, but it is not as easy for me. But I love watching how these young new school pro drummers have taken these fills to another level, when I didn't even think that it was even humanly possible to reach a higher level. But I love how you guys can incorporate y'all's kick drum into your fills. I'm from the old school and drummers in the 70s did not use a lot of todays fills. Today's drummers and today's fills in my opinion are much better than the drummers and fills I grew up watching and listening to. Thank you.
Church drumming is very challenging and I’m never satisfied with mine. Takes a lot of control, restraint and most all, tonal precision. Good video Jerod.
As it turns out, I was overusing the six stroke roll, made me think 🤭 Another note: It's really cool to see how much Jared Falk has developed the skills of the drumming over the years. I mean, really really cool and awesome. 🙂
Marching drummer here, I don’t know if it’s maybe different in the world of drum set, but in the marching world a Herta is actually the reverse of how it’s described in this video. That is to say, two notes followed by two notes of half the value. Most commonly it’s used as a check pattern for practicing paradiddlediddles, and most commonly written as two sixteenth note triplets followed by two eighth note triplets.
my own personal view is that the fills may be boring and/or over-used, but if they work for the music, and you can play them in time, then you'll get the job/get the gig :) theyve certainly kept me in business for the last 10+ years ^_^
Jared: Blushda? blushda blushda blushda blushda you’re blushda-ing on the drums My subtitles: Blister blister blister blister blister you’re bloods dying on the drums
Alot of people with recommend rudiments to try, which help but just practicing Single strokes or double strokes will work eventually if you're less interested in technical learning. if you don't have much time pick up pencils or pens and just wiggle em'
Here's my 2 cents. I've been playing drums for about 33 years and have never over used these fills. It's because I either don't like them, or never learned them. The only two I used are Around the world and PBDB. I've used Around the world quite sparse. I've never liked PBDB, so I've used that fill as a protest. 😁 I've used some kind of Herta a few times. Can't say I love them.. I've never used the Blushda, because I can't play it, and don't like it. The six stroke roll... well I want to be able to use it, and I've really tried to learn it, but I haven't managed to get it down in any usable way.
I agree. I myself use the 6-strokeroll WAY to much.. but more often than not I actually just play one 6-stroke roll and then a quarter note on beat 4, so it sort of sets up for a new section.. making it breath I guess. But I use it too much. The blushda is just super cool but I don´t use it that much, more like a similar flam thing (same phrasing) without the extra diddle. Nice video and you play great Jared!
I feel like I have to say this. You spent a lot of time justifying your reasoning. You’re totally valid in your style, fam. I appreciate this philosophy. I’m just learning drums, but I sing and play guitar and I notice the same things. I’ll do the same transitions in my singing and my playing over multiple songs and realize that I don’t want to have that be my sound and I intentionally imitate other popular styles and techniques to trying to mold my sound into something more interesting. Not because I think I’m going to blow someone out of the water with how interesting I become, but because my playing is my form of artistic expression and I want to be able to make something that I can enjoy listening to.
Kinda mentioned there towards the end of the video, about fitting with the music - it can be a fine line between spicing up, changing up an overused fill that still fits with the music versus over-complicating things. For instance, over-complicating something Ramones-esque might make it sound like Blink 182 or something which, at least for me, defeats the purpose and wouldn't fit. I guess I like to start simple and add/revise (if necessary) up to the point where adding/changing morphs the music into something else not intended.
So I really want to get back into drumming and I only have drumsticks really what can I do to improve and become a decent player. I love these videos but i don’t know how to replicate them at home
This may seem counterintuitive, but getting rid of most of those toms will cause greater variety thru necessity . There’s a reason 4pc kits are used by so many greats..or 1 up 2 down.
best manner to break the mold is to play rudiments with group 4 or 2 stickings in some sort of 3 timing or rudiments of three sickings in 4 timing etc , keeping the accents or flams in place .. never fails to sound interesting
I run into this a lot. Playing in church tends to be pretty rut inducing anyway, all the music sounds exactly the same. I-V-vi-IV chord progression, verse 1 and 2 are the same, the bridge is one line repeated over and over, about a 7-90 tempo, moneybeat.
I think the majority of these fills are overused by guys that overplay or are showing off chops in a song. But I don’t know musical drummers that over use these fills in a song when used in context. If you have to play these fills to show off you are right that’s just bad musicianship! But as corny as Pat Boone Debby Boone is, it will almost always be found in most pop tunes because the fill is simple and doesn’t show off a drummer’s chops. So an overused fill to me for church drummers is the 8th note build! My gosh what an over used fill! But it sometimes is the only right fill to keep the band solid into the next section. I agree build you vocabulary up and play with taste! The groove is way more important that the fill. Also, in a recent drum lesson with JR Robinson he told me to not overthink my fills, just let them flow out. When we overthink we tend to rush the fill. An interesting thought ... anyhow ... nice lesson! Good job!
Thanks Jared. Great lesson. If I could play what you call an abomination even half as good as you I would doing good. It's a joy to watch you play and I always learn something new. Thanks again.
I am guilty of using the six stroke roll, but to make it a bit different I added an extra llRll to the end of the fill. Making the roll now being RllrrLRllRll. I usually play the last accent on the floor tom but change it up a lot.
I have been playing drum all my life. Starting at 4 and now at 34. For some reason I am at a point I can almost play whatever I want as long as I have the kit for. But I never been able to create sound or be original when I try to improvise. Do you have any excercise?
The 6th one could be that fill that Carmine Appice does - I don't know the name but he used it through-out the drum clinic I went to. If I could play it half as good as him I would totally overuse it as well. Bobby Rondinelli called it the Broccoli Rab. My drum teacher and I call it Botcha-la-gooop.
Hahahaha! The first 20 seconds says it all. And well done for not just playing the fills, but playing them with the attitude of someone who over uses them 👍
I just think listening to lots of music is the trick here, playing along a huge variety of songs will let you build a nice repertoire of fills that work in more than just one context. Once you're at a point where you feel great about most of your ideas on the spot, you can just change things up and try to just mix everything you've learned. I also think learning to listen to and deconstruct fills and grooves is a really good tool. Not even perfect transcriptions or anything, just being able to understand the feel and packaging it however you like for your needs. I do take notice of when I overdo some new thing I learned or something though and when performing I'm much more confident keeping it simple, so it also depends whether I'm practicing or doing something more serious. Also, there is a whole school of thought where repetition is a good thing, as half of all psych rock will attest to. Say you got a 7/8 straight groove going with two single strokes breaking up each loop, you got a nice setup for introducing small changes and creating a nice buildup. And some genres just don't play too well with fills, although nothing is set in stone. Rap/hip-hop often makes fills feel out of place for me, the music tends to be kind of in the background (despite plenty of artists going ham on the technical stuff). Still doesn't stop me from cramming them in there somewhere.
I think it's worth noting that the herta would traditionally be structured with the faster notes first. That makes the rhythm sound like h-er-i-ta. Starting with the slower notes is akin to calling something a paradiddle, but sticking it RRLR, diddle para.
Hi Jared - great video - as usual. Re: the roto-toms on your right - what brand are they please? (They don't appear to be Remo.) Also, what are the head diameters of those? I'm guessing 8" and 10'". Thanks!
its funny how in your previous videos they were "cool fills to expand your drum fill vocabulary" and now they're "over used drum fills" and they are the same fills.
The groups of four fill is one of the first fills, maybe *the* first fill, you learn as a beginner, so yes, I played that when I was a beginner. As far as I can remember, I only played it when practicing, though; it was so common and I didn't want to play it (too much) and sound like everybody else. As for the Pat Boone Debby Boone fill, never in my life!
Oh man I use all of these and my playing gets so predictable. One tip I can share is to combine/modify your fills slightly to make them sound unique Like let's say instead of going "pat boone debbie boone", you go "pat boone 3 & 4 &" or "pat boone 3e&a4e&a"
The blushda is one of my favorite licks.Thanks for bringing it up, Jared! As a side note, if anyone wants to hear some brilliant applications of the blushda, watch pretty much any performance by Gavin Harrison. This live performance of Futile has one of my favorite uses of it (as well as some amazing hertas on the bass drum): ruclips.net/video/QvYLHG86Iwo/видео.html
i don't know what it's called but i find myself doing a very rapid transition of a single hit on 3 toms and the snare. i guess the closest thing is a blushda that doesn't sound accented? pantera's domination opens up with it.
That’s ridiculous. The opposite side of the coin is that these fills are tried and true. There’s only one blues song, but bands can do entire night of it.
After you have learned how to branch out with your fills, check out the "Must-Know Drum Grooves" ruclips.net/video/1aEz6B7wRfA/видео.html
I wish i have a drumset, even old. Please.
Ok
The herta and the six stroke roll are the ones I struggle with the most.
You can’t talk about a crappy church recording you did when you were in high school without playing it for us.
you've got a point
#SHOWUSTHETAPE
#SHOWUSTHETAPE
ummm,,,he DID play it...several times
Jeff Porcaro Groove ummm....he literally did not play the recording he made, not once.
Church music and overused fills, name a more iconic duo.
haha!
What’s the difference between the two😂
Gotta keep things simple to appease the congregation 😆
Because if you do anything more than a Pat Boone Debbie Boone all the white people clapping on 1 and 3 will get confused!
Contemporary Christian Music for sure. Gospel music, eh, not so much.
RLRLKK should definitely be on this list. That being said, I am guilty of using that one a ton
Expected that to be the first one Jared covered!
Or just RLKK or RLK
True. Maybe I do a follow-up at some point.
Lol combinations of RLK, RLKK, RLRLKK, and hertas around the toms was all I did in my drum career and people were impressed... I played metal though.... the mike Portnoy technique....
Most of the stuff in this is much more creative than RLRL
@@neonblack211 yeah people always are. Bet drummers weren't :D
I mostly play metal and my most overused fill is definitely single stroke rolls in groups of 2 or 4 followed by 2 kicks (let's say RLRL KKRL RLKK RLKK). it's really simple, effective and adjustable/versatile for accenting the riff, but I'm definitely guilty of overusing it lol
AKA Portnoy fills...yeah those are such a fun clean go-to for metal/fast drumming.
I couldn’t believe that a lot of people do these fills. I thought it was just me but I just watched the intro and felt like he’s been watching me while I drum! 😂
Haha!
“Around the World” fill aka “Caveman fill.” John Bonham was the master of making that sound great!
Also, one easy way to change up these fills (besides the ways you’re talking about) is to displace where in the bar you’re playing the fill (let’s say start on the and of 2 instead of 3). Helps your time and sounds funky!
Hearing him do that on live performances constantly is why it's a go-to fill for me lol
Crazy how good he makes such a simple fill sound.
Also just messing around with accents--both in where you place them and what you're hitting when you do.
Yes, and you can do different groupings, too. Like groups of 3 or 5, delineated by the accents. Then you go down the rabbit hole of metric modulation... 🙂
When Jared failed at his drumming it makes me Motivated because as much as he do as a professional Drummer and he failed that time. It boosted my self View on my drumming that I am not only one even the Pros made mistakes and I will Grind myself into its Finest. Thank you so much!!
Never stop "The Grind". Keep up the hard work! 🙂
I’ve been playing drums since I was 2 (26 years), and been playing professionally for about a decade. Here are some things I do every single day on my gigs. 1) drop my sticks 2) lose the “1” 3) miss my cymbals 4) whack myself in the face 5) straight up drop out in the middle of certain drum fills because I was too ambitious. I could go on and on. Don’t let anyone, including yourself, ever convince you that professionals are untouchable elites. The only difference between a professional, and a novice, aside from maybe a few key essential skills (solid meter, etc), is that we are making our mistakes in front of a bunch of people and for some reason are being paid to do that. Don’t ever be afraid to “fail”.
@@kevinbothwell8425 Thanks for sharing.. I always thought if I had started young I wouldn't have half of those problems.
Okay, I didn't wake up this morning to be personally attacked like this with fills 3 and 5 . . .
Back in the 70’s I owned vinyl records called “Drum Drops”. I believe the drummer was David Crigger. These were records with song length drum grooves and fills. That is where I first heard the Herta. As a 10-12 year old drummer it blew my mind and I HAD to learn it. So did my parents, my neighbors and all my bandmates! Yea, we all go through it! 🤣
5 most overused ones ....
still can't perfect them
Nobody is perfect. Just take the next step and you'll continue to make progress.
this answer is perfect though.
I remember the first day where my hands did a herta and it felt like I was god lmao. These fills have there place! But they become so comfortable that your hands just go on autopilot and do them. Keep it up!
2 more for the list:
the 'Portnoy' fill for anyone using double bass pedals.
the 'MoTown' fill
Bonham style triplets
(snare) K,K R,L K,K R,L,R,L K,K
(tom1) R,L K,K
(snare) R,L,R,L K,K
(tom1or2) R,L K,K
(tom2or3) R,L K,K
(snare and *china) R+L
The Modified Pull Me Under *SO DAMNED GUILTY*
Christian T Blake makes up for it with everything else he conjures up in those 10 minute tracks :)
Thank you Jared..you are my inspiration..I just got my drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot..I always wanted to learn drumming right from my childhood but was not able to afford a kit or attend classes..it took 30 long years to buy my first ever drum kit and your videos have helped me a lot.. cheers from India!
The "Pat Boone Debbie Boone" fill reminded me of fills laid all over November Rain and some other songs from Use Your Illusion . Matt Sorum seems particularly fond of those.
Haha yeah Matt came to mind first too. I can basically predict what fill he's gonna do before he does it
Yeah... i play that fill all the time. It just really works.
It’s all over the entire two use your illusion albums
Ringo Monsanto Lol, I love Pat Boone Debbie Boone..
Reminds me of “Say it Ain't So" by Weezer.
Somebody make a gif of Jared looking at the camera and saying “hot dang!”
this video reminds me of musicians who forget they aren't in the audience anymore. yes, all the familiar material gets boring, that means you've mastered it. if you think about performing like a magic act you'll realize that it's not about constantly chasing new material. excellent execution and moving the audience become a source for fulfillment in playing the same thing over and over.
same thing with touring bands using the same setlist. on the road i would lose track of what day it was and what town we were in but i knew what song came next and that was my anchor to sanity. and pulling off the licks in the music and seeing the audience having the times of their life were what brought me joy. i hope this helps as much as your videos do.
Some things I have tried to put in my fills is grandmas rLrr lRll
Swiss triplets
And more stuff between the kick snare and hi hats
They're called swiss army triplets
Lesson No.1: Whenever someone mentions "Lars", laugh.
In Finland we call the 'Bat Boone Debby Boone' -fill the 'rec-tum-ta-ka-tum'. Maybe doesn't sound so fitting in english for... Obvious reasons. 😂
I don't know why it would be that much different in English... Though I do think what makes it even more funny in Finnish is the fact that "taka" also means "behind". It's a wordplay that wouldn't work that well in English.
I'm from the UK and I know it as "Flat in Dagenham". (Dagenham is a town on the edge of London, pronounced "Dag-un-um").
i bought new drum heads but i WREKT EM from practicing that fill
I'm just learned the best way to be aware and don't feel guilty for using same fills.. Thanks Jared
5 overused drumfills
But they sound good....🤗
Right?!
@@alexanderb5376 Not overused, most useful.
I generally overuse Bonham style triplets, but none of these except the second one. I can play all of them, they just never really fit with what I'm going for.
The Pat Boone, Debby Boone fills, I remember I learned it from listening to Matt Sorum playing on Guns'N'Roses, he could just play it so full and grand.
Jared I have been watching your videos for years, your humble teaching style is very inspiring. Thank you so much for everything
My most overused fill is the flams down the toms like in Gimme Shelter by the Rolling stones
C'mon.....pick a REAL drummer, and it ain't Charlie. Have you ever watched him in concert? I was better in highschool....and that was 50 years ago.
Tommy Nikon are you really saying your a better drummer than Charlie Watts?
@@tommynikon2283 Charlie not only still plays in a rock band(rolling stones) he also plays in a jazz band( Charlie watts quintet) he is one of the most consistent and talented drummers of all time.
Another top tip I was once given was "see how far you can play just listening to the other musicians with NO FILLS AT ALL." Actually, very, very hard.
Too many fills is similar to saying LIKE all the time.
Totally agree: Love my Rotos!!!
Jared your kit looks awsome from overhead . Paiste's are incresing the beauty
I have pretty much nothing to say about the video because I was just gawking at how amazing your drums sound Jared
I play classic rock in a southern rock band, I know what you're saying,we try to play exactly like the song we're playing, but I myself have much respect for Ringo,less is more, keep rocking everyone.
Straight 16th notes on the snare drum is the number one
My most overused drum fills are the ones I learnt most recently 😂
it changes quite often
Mine is Alex Bent's fill in 5:31 of "The Sin and The Sentence". It just feels so simple and yet so powerful for me
I am a true amateur, which means that my number of fills are very limited. I probably only have maybe 5 fills that I can really trust or rely on without having to worry about making any errors. And yes...my fills are simple as hell. But I can't tell you how much I would love to be able learn some more interesting ones.. like some of the ones you just did. You made me it look so easy, but it is not as easy for me. But I love watching how these young new school pro drummers have taken these fills to another level, when I didn't even think that it was even humanly possible to reach a higher level. But I love how you guys can incorporate y'all's kick drum into your fills. I'm from the old school and drummers in the 70s did not use a lot of todays fills. Today's drummers and today's fills in my opinion are much better than the drummers and fills I grew up watching and listening to. Thank you.
The blushda is like "the lick" but for drummers
Church drumming is very challenging and I’m never satisfied with mine. Takes a lot of control, restraint and most all, tonal precision. Good video Jerod.
Why you gotta call me out publicly like this, Jared?
"Herta is an overused drum fill"
*Brann Dailor has entered the chat*
I am Brann Dailor. How can I help?
Christopher is this supposed to make sense?
@@DrumeoOfficial bruh, i thought that i was the only one who found you identical to brann lmao
Tomas Haake is laughing at this polyrhythmically
@@amullan88 😂😂😂
As it turns out, I was overusing the six stroke roll, made me think 🤭
Another note: It's really cool to see how much Jared Falk has developed the skills of the drumming over the years. I mean, really really cool and awesome. 🙂
Marching drummer here, I don’t know if it’s maybe different in the world of drum set, but in the marching world a Herta is actually the reverse of how it’s described in this video. That is to say, two notes followed by two notes of half the value. Most commonly it’s used as a check pattern for practicing paradiddlediddles, and most commonly written as two sixteenth note triplets followed by two eighth note triplets.
my own personal view is that the fills may be boring and/or over-used, but if they work for the music, and you can play them in time, then you'll get the job/get the gig :) theyve certainly kept me in business for the last 10+ years ^_^
His drum kit is huge!!!
Jared: Blushda? blushda blushda blushda blushda you’re blushda-ing on the drums
My subtitles: Blister blister blister blister blister you’re bloods dying on the drums
Some sick fucking death metal lyrics yo.
Gustav?
Roto Toms are awesome. I have coated Ambassadors on mine vs the usual clear CS.
I've love the sound of Toto toms
I can't really use the sticks so fast yet
Alot of people with recommend rudiments to try, which help but just practicing Single strokes or double strokes will work eventually if you're less interested in technical learning. if you don't have much time pick up pencils or pens and just wiggle em'
6:20
I love that fill.
Here's my 2 cents. I've been playing drums for about 33 years and have never over used these fills. It's because I either don't like them, or never learned them. The only two I used are Around the world and PBDB. I've used Around the world quite sparse. I've never liked PBDB, so I've used that fill as a protest. 😁
I've used some kind of Herta a few times. Can't say I love them..
I've never used the Blushda, because I can't play it, and don't like it.
The six stroke roll... well I want to be able to use it, and I've really tried to learn it, but I haven't managed to get it down in any usable way.
I overuse bucket a fish... 😭
A lot of people do!😂
No such thing
Que es eso???
I love that I've never heard of this, but I'm pretty confident I know exactly what you mean
@Rich606 Snare, tom, floor tom, kick
I agree. I myself use the 6-strokeroll WAY to much.. but more often than not I actually just play one 6-stroke roll and then a quarter note on beat 4, so it sort of sets up for a new section.. making it breath I guess. But I use it too much. The blushda is just super cool but I don´t use it that much, more like a similar flam thing (same phrasing) without the extra diddle. Nice video and you play great Jared!
I like how Jared looked disgusted while he was demonstrating how he used to play the pat boone Debby Boone lol
It was an abomination.
Every metal drummer watching this is guilty of over using RLRLKK myself included
I feel like I have to say this. You spent a lot of time justifying your reasoning. You’re totally valid in your style, fam. I appreciate this philosophy. I’m just learning drums, but I sing and play guitar and I notice the same things. I’ll do the same transitions in my singing and my playing over multiple songs and realize that I don’t want to have that be my sound and I intentionally imitate other popular styles and techniques to trying to mold my sound into something more interesting. Not because I think I’m going to blow someone out of the water with how interesting I become, but because my playing is my form of artistic expression and I want to be able to make something that I can enjoy listening to.
Thank you!
Some people: umm umm, so etc
Jared : swallow gulp swallow gulp every 5 or 10 secs
Me lol
Sometimes the best fill is none at all.
Yo this man changes his drum heads after every time he plays lol
for real tho shout out to evans
Learn them. Love them. Use them properly. This includes the Motown fill. Never play for the fill, play for the song.
Kinda mentioned there towards the end of the video, about fitting with the music - it can be a fine line between spicing up, changing up an overused fill that still fits with the music versus over-complicating things. For instance, over-complicating something Ramones-esque might make it sound like Blink 182 or something which, at least for me, defeats the purpose and wouldn't fit. I guess I like to start simple and add/revise (if necessary) up to the point where adding/changing morphs the music into something else not intended.
This video is not just a great lesson but this is genuinely extremely hilarious as well!
So I really want to get back into drumming and I only have drumsticks really what can I do to improve and become a decent player. I love these videos but i don’t know how to replicate them at home
I actually never play these drum fills, I either play some random fill or some Soundgarden kind of fill
Matt Cameron is so so good
Elijah Kotian Really love his drumming! Big inspiration
You can't go wrong with Soundgarden.
Drumeo Definitely not! Learned so much from his drumming, odd times, cool fills and a great use of the drums!
Thats basically ending every fill with a loud flam haha. I love Matt
This may seem counterintuitive, but getting rid of most of those toms will cause greater variety thru necessity . There’s a reason 4pc kits are used by so many greats..or 1 up 2 down.
,,It's not what you play, it's what you DON'T play."
Phil Collins
He was able to avoid clichés, when he wanted to.
best manner to break the mold is to play rudiments with group 4 or 2 stickings in some sort of 3 timing or rudiments of three sickings in 4 timing etc , keeping the accents or flams in place .. never fails to sound interesting
I run into this a lot. Playing in church tends to be pretty rut inducing anyway, all the music sounds exactly the same. I-V-vi-IV chord progression, verse 1 and 2 are the same, the bridge is one line repeated over and over, about a 7-90 tempo, moneybeat.
Sometimes even paying attention to a guitar riff instead of going on autopilot can help. 🙂
I think the majority of these fills are overused by guys that overplay or are showing off chops in a song. But I don’t know musical drummers that over use these fills in a song when used in context. If you have to play these fills to show off you are right that’s just bad musicianship! But as corny as Pat Boone Debby Boone is, it will almost always be found in most pop tunes because the fill is simple and doesn’t show off a drummer’s chops. So an overused fill to me for church drummers is the 8th note build! My gosh what an over used fill! But it sometimes is the only right fill to keep the band solid into the next section. I agree build you vocabulary up and play with taste! The groove is way more important that the fill. Also, in a recent drum lesson with JR Robinson he told me to not overthink my fills, just let them flow out. When we overthink we tend to rush the fill. An interesting thought ... anyhow ... nice lesson! Good job!
Thanks Jared. Great lesson. If I could play what you call an abomination even half as good as you I would doing good. It's a joy to watch you play and I always learn something new. Thanks again.
Just came across this lesson. It’ll certainly make me more aware of what I am playing! Thank you 😊
Lololol...LOVE the opening... Brings back memories!🤣
I am guilty of using the six stroke roll, but to make it a bit different I added an extra llRll to the end of the fill. Making the roll now being RllrrLRllRll. I usually play the last accent on the floor tom but change it up a lot.
9:20 a present participle or an adjective (adverb if you really stretch it).
I have been playing drum all my life. Starting at 4 and now at 34.
For some reason I am at a point I can almost play whatever I want as long as I have the kit for.
But I never been able to create sound or be original when I try to improvise.
Do you have any excercise?
That six stroke roll fill is awesome
That was a fun video! Love your enthusiasm.
The 6th one could be that fill that Carmine Appice does - I don't know the name but he used it through-out the drum clinic I went to. If I could play it half as good as him I would totally overuse it as well. Bobby Rondinelli called it the Broccoli Rab. My drum teacher and I call it Botcha-la-gooop.
Hahahaha! The first 20 seconds says it all. And well done for not just playing the fills, but playing them with the attitude of someone who over uses them 👍
I just think listening to lots of music is the trick here, playing along a huge variety of songs will let you build a nice repertoire of fills that work in more than just one context. Once you're at a point where you feel great about most of your ideas on the spot, you can just change things up and try to just mix everything you've learned. I also think learning to listen to and deconstruct fills and grooves is a really good tool. Not even perfect transcriptions or anything, just being able to understand the feel and packaging it however you like for your needs.
I do take notice of when I overdo some new thing I learned or something though and when performing I'm much more confident keeping it simple, so it also depends whether I'm practicing or doing something more serious. Also, there is a whole school of thought where repetition is a good thing, as half of all psych rock will attest to. Say you got a 7/8 straight groove going with two single strokes breaking up each loop, you got a nice setup for introducing small changes and creating a nice buildup.
And some genres just don't play too well with fills, although nothing is set in stone. Rap/hip-hop often makes fills feel out of place for me, the music tends to be kind of in the background (despite plenty of artists going ham on the technical stuff). Still doesn't stop me from cramming them in there somewhere.
The vibe of this video was so different, in a good way, very funny but also useful! 😂😂😂
Pat Boone Debbie Boone ! ! That's like the person who doesn't play drums and does a fill. But in practice pulling it off at speed can be slick !
Linguistic fill ins
1- you know
2- it's like
3- I mean
then you can make combos
you know, i mean, it's like, garbage, or something.
How do i add the kick into the six stroke roll? pretty please? :D what is the sticking?
I think it's worth noting that the herta would traditionally be structured with the faster notes first. That makes the rhythm sound like h-er-i-ta. Starting with the slower notes is akin to calling something a paradiddle, but sticking it RRLR, diddle para.
After all these years still great content! Thanks Jared!
I think the herta made my day. Sadly it is already in the evening and my neighbours would not be amused if I went practicing now...
Great video.Xan I ask that when the notes are shown LRRLLRR etc can you put the equivalent for us lefties.
Kind regards
Mick from UK
I thought your six stroke roll and Blushda were great! The bit where the herta fell over was hilarious too.
Hi Jared - great video - as usual. Re: the roto-toms on your right - what brand are they please? (They don't appear to be Remo.) Also, what are the head diameters of those? I'm guessing 8" and 10'". Thanks!
its funny how in your previous videos they were "cool fills to expand your drum fill vocabulary" and now they're "over used drum fills" and they are the same fills.
The groups of four fill is one of the first fills, maybe *the* first fill, you learn as a beginner, so yes, I played that when I was a beginner. As far as I can remember, I only played it when practicing, though; it was so common and I didn't want to play it (too much) and sound like everybody else. As for the Pat Boone Debby Boone fill, never in my life!
Those are some beautiful sounding cymbals.
Oh man I use all of these and my playing gets so predictable.
One tip I can share is to combine/modify your fills slightly to make them sound unique
Like let's say instead of going "pat boone debbie boone", you go "pat boone 3 & 4 &" or "pat boone 3e&a4e&a"
The blushda is one of my favorite licks.Thanks for bringing it up, Jared!
As a side note, if anyone wants to hear some brilliant applications of the blushda, watch pretty much any performance by Gavin Harrison. This live performance of Futile has one of my favorite uses of it (as well as some amazing hertas on the bass drum): ruclips.net/video/QvYLHG86Iwo/видео.html
Well, that 6 stroke roll sounds really good.
That intro is just so spot on! :-)
I gotta start using some of these over used fills!!
I love the sound of your drums. What Evans heads to you use on your kit and snare?
Hahaha, those first 20 seconds are epic. Guilty as charged here!!!
I wanted some new fill. Thankyou jared and drumeo... Love from India 🌷😍
Jared is so right, I am officially addicted to the the blushta
We need drum fill rehab to “kick” the habit
My friend you are an insane drummer but every time you explain it my mind goes blank
i don't know what it's called but i find myself doing a very rapid transition of a single hit on 3 toms and the snare. i guess the closest thing is a blushda that doesn't sound accented? pantera's domination opens up with it.
Some of these I haven't heard of and I actually wanna use them, haha! Especially the blushda :D
Enjoy! 🙂
I’m ashamed to say... I use these fills all the time 😂
Me too.
That’s ridiculous. The opposite side of the coin is that these fills are tried and true. There’s only one blues song, but bands can do entire night of it.
Don’t be ashamed. Them being overused doesn’t mean they’re bad fills.