Amazing progression from a 70' power throw to being the Pitt record holder at 164'+! Adding 100' feet to your distance in a span of 7 years is a huge accomplishment. I could see the improved coaching in her technique and execution of the 'sprint' and transfer in the middle and end of her throws once she hit college. As a western PA kid, I was cheering her on all the way in this video. Nice video showing your throws career. I hope you're still at it Haley!
That happened to my friend that beat our school record for javelin midget girls that came 2nd. That meet 1st: 29.97, 2nd: 29.89, 3rd (my pb) :27.34. First time every in the same meet that the top 5 people threw over 25/26 meters in our area in a long time.
This is a great video and should be an inspiration to young girls who are learning to throw. She wasn't great but she made her best throw at State and won and continued to improve in college and get the school record. Persistance pays off!
cool video...Seeing the progression from grade school to becoming a competitive college discus thrower is invaluable to a "just starting" discus thrower. Time, training, and dedication can lead to great things.
Interesting development. This young woman took very well to college coaching. Not terribly quick but she has a cannon for an arm. Good educational post for young throwers.
This is awesome and inspirational. I am going to state and my pr rn is 116’10. This video definitely makes me think that that hard work and dedication can get you places. I started throwing in 7th grade at 50’, now I’m a junior in hs almost throwing 120! So happy!
This is a valuable video and I than you. It fully demonstrates how crappy American HS coaching is in teh throws along with a complete absence of competent strength training in this case. This girl appears to have all the coordination needed to be a 200' thrower but she didn't even develop enough strength to apply a drive that required a reverse until her senior year in college. Just a real shame....looks liek she actually enjoyed competing....
Kevin Madden well i mean if she enjoyed competing I don't think it's rlly a shame that she wasn't that technically sound as long as she had fun doing it
Kevin Madden Good incite.. I enjoyed this video so much!! I just had de ja vu as I watched this. I won nearly every track meet since 7th grade including district, placed 1-3 at regional meets every season, still hold our high school record in Gainesville, went to state where I placed 5th, & ended up with a full scholarship to UNT in Texas BUT I only had a coach in 7th & 8th grade & college outside of my uncle showing me a few things in HS. No one cared about discus... even in college it was pretty much all about shot put. It still paid for my college education!! I was blessed by God to have enough inner drive to do it for myself. He was watching after me. I had the strength as I could bench press 200 lbs & squat 325 weight 175 being 5' 6". With the right coaching & training there is no telling how far I could have gone. I had to beg to be put in powerlifting as they did not allow women to participate at my school the time. After they considered it they chose not to allow me.
Kobe Alaya I get what he is saying. Beside enjoyment & college success, it's a shame not to have an opportunity to reach your full potential because of a lack of proper strength training & skillful coaching.
As a former coach with numerous 40m+ girls (& guys) to my credit & a former thrower myself, I see 2 things that really held her back in HS. Strength training wasn't a major factor, although it could've helped. The 2 items have to do with technique. #1 - her left arm being completely folded back at the elbow & held close to the body during her spin. Whoever taught her that or allowed her to do that on her own had no idea what they were doing. Complete uselessness of the left arm which is critical in developing angular momentum and then the inability to help create a block at the end to convert that angular momentum. #2 - Lack of a left leg block. Almost completely ineffectual. The very first video of her as a college sophomore shows that her collegiate coaching at least addressed #1. She now had her left arm away from her body to help balance and add to angular momentum generation. Unfortunately, #2, the lack of a solid left leg block continued to hinder her development. I can see why you said she could be a 200+ thrower. I see the same tools myself. She and her college coach are to be credited with improvement that they did make after what should've been an easy 150-160' thrower coming out of HS. HS coaching in the country in the throws, long jump, and high jump are particularly bad. A lot of it has to do with lack of money for former athletes themselves to go into coaching, even if as an assistant. Pole vaulters are a unique brand in that you'll find former vaulters hanging around the pole vault for decades afterward, imparting knowledge to succeeding generations.
I wouldn't make such a blanket statement. Even in MT, we have some great throws coaches, it just takes time to develop and the right athlete. I took a girl from scratch throwing 75 feet starting midway through her sophomore year to breaking the all class record at 157 in basically 2 seasons. I've also brought girls from 70 feet to 110 as seniors and they're both big accomplishments for the individuals. I agree, this girls had some great tools... but a rocket arm only gets someone so far. I always tell kids either get enough push at the front to reverse or stick a European finish. I can't possibly believe nobody told her that, or that she didn't discover that on her own. Even her PR as a JR in college had the same flaw with picking that right leg up and spinning around. I'm not saying she's incapable of doing it properly, but I am saying it was obviously incredibly difficult over the course of 6+ years so blaming coaching (3 years in at Pitt) probably isn't right. The habit of coach blaming is ridiculous. Most kids don't have the skills, ability, physical attributes or motivation to be elite throwers. Having more of one makes up a bit for the others, but not entirely.
Bad form but a cannon of an arm and what’s weird is that they measure from the middle also when she let go she doesn’t explode off of her legs she just carries it
Great progression, just to slow through the ring and not enough explosion at the end. Looks like she is slow with pauses in her technique as she goes through the ring instead of a powerful nonstop action moving through the ring with speed and power and explosion at the end. Has the potential though.
Wow, great progression! She threw far with pretty bad form. Bad habits started early, like lifting that back foot off the ground during the throw. It did get a little better in college, but still room for improvement. Would have been 200' plus with a better coach.
This is good. But, I’m a freshman and have already thrown 124 feet. But, I do see some things you could work on. Like your block with your leg swing, and your head leading your body. But over all very nice.
Amazing progression from a 70' power throw to being the Pitt record holder at 164'+! Adding 100' feet to your distance in a span of 7 years is a huge accomplishment. I could see the improved coaching in her technique and execution of the 'sprint' and transfer in the middle and end of her throws once she hit college. As a western PA kid, I was cheering her on all the way in this video. Nice video showing your throws career. I hope you're still at it Haley!
That awkward moment when you break your school record and still finish 2nd
Exactly
That happened to my friend that beat our school record for javelin midget girls that came 2nd. That meet 1st: 29.97, 2nd: 29.89, 3rd (my pb) :27.34. First time every in the same meet that the top 5 people threw over 25/26 meters in our area in a long time.
This is a great video and should be an inspiration to young girls who are learning to throw. She wasn't great but she made her best throw at State and won and continued to improve in college and get the school record. Persistance pays off!
cool video...Seeing the progression from grade school to becoming a competitive college discus thrower is invaluable to a "just starting" discus thrower. Time, training, and dedication can lead to great things.
Interesting development. This young woman took very well to college coaching. Not terribly quick but she has a cannon for an arm.
Good educational post for young throwers.
This is awesome and inspirational. I am going to state and my pr rn is 116’10. This video definitely makes me think that that hard work and dedication can get you places. I started throwing in 7th grade at 50’, now I’m a junior in hs almost throwing 120! So happy!
Thats higher than my schools disc record for girls our best thrower rn throws 80
Wow @spud man
Also, update: I threw 122' 10 in state and came in 3rd
Our school record is 127' 7
What a labor of love dad, fun stuff
So awesome
This is a valuable video and I than you. It fully demonstrates how crappy American HS coaching is in teh throws along with a complete absence of competent strength training in this case. This girl appears to have all the coordination needed to be a 200' thrower but she didn't even develop enough strength to apply a drive that required a reverse until her senior year in college. Just a real shame....looks liek she actually enjoyed competing....
Kevin Madden well i mean if she enjoyed competing I don't think it's rlly a shame that she wasn't that technically sound as long as she had fun doing it
Kevin Madden
Good incite.. I enjoyed this video so much!! I just had de ja vu as I watched this. I won nearly every track meet since 7th grade including district, placed 1-3 at regional meets every season, still hold our high school record in Gainesville, went to state where I placed 5th, & ended up with a full scholarship to UNT in Texas BUT I only had a coach in 7th & 8th grade & college outside of my uncle showing me a few things in HS. No one cared about discus... even in college it was pretty much all about shot put.
It still paid for my college education!! I was blessed by God to have enough inner drive to do it for myself. He was watching after me.
I had the strength as I could bench press 200 lbs & squat 325 weight 175 being 5' 6". With the right coaching & training there is no telling how far I could have gone.
I had to beg to be put in powerlifting as they did not allow women to participate at my school the time. After they considered it they chose not to allow me.
Kobe Alaya I get what he is saying. Beside enjoyment & college success, it's a shame not to have an opportunity to reach your full potential because of a lack of proper strength training & skillful coaching.
As a former coach with numerous 40m+ girls (& guys) to my credit & a former thrower myself, I see 2 things that really held her back in HS. Strength training wasn't a major factor, although it could've helped. The 2 items have to do with technique. #1 - her left arm being completely folded back at the elbow & held close to the body during her spin. Whoever taught her that or allowed her to do that on her own had no idea what they were doing. Complete uselessness of the left arm which is critical in developing angular momentum and then the inability to help create a block at the end to convert that angular momentum. #2 - Lack of a left leg block. Almost completely ineffectual.
The very first video of her as a college sophomore shows that her collegiate coaching at least addressed #1. She now had her left arm away from her body to help balance and add to angular momentum generation. Unfortunately, #2, the lack of a solid left leg block continued to hinder her development.
I can see why you said she could be a 200+ thrower. I see the same tools myself. She and her college coach are to be credited with improvement that they did make after what should've been an easy 150-160' thrower coming out of HS. HS coaching in the country in the throws, long jump, and high jump are particularly bad. A lot of it has to do with lack of money for former athletes themselves to go into coaching, even if as an assistant. Pole vaulters are a unique brand in that you'll find former vaulters hanging around the pole vault for decades afterward, imparting knowledge to succeeding generations.
I wouldn't make such a blanket statement. Even in MT, we have some great throws coaches, it just takes time to develop and the right athlete. I took a girl from scratch throwing 75 feet starting midway through her sophomore year to breaking the all class record at 157 in basically 2 seasons. I've also brought girls from 70 feet to 110 as seniors and they're both big accomplishments for the individuals. I agree, this girls had some great tools... but a rocket arm only gets someone so far. I always tell kids either get enough push at the front to reverse or stick a European finish. I can't possibly believe nobody told her that, or that she didn't discover that on her own. Even her PR as a JR in college had the same flaw with picking that right leg up and spinning around. I'm not saying she's incapable of doing it properly, but I am saying it was obviously incredibly difficult over the course of 6+ years so blaming coaching (3 years in at Pitt) probably isn't right. The habit of coach blaming is ridiculous. Most kids don't have the skills, ability, physical attributes or motivation to be elite throwers. Having more of one makes up a bit for the others, but not entirely.
You can tell when she got to pittstate she finally got some coaching.
It's just Pitt not Pitt State
Bad form but a cannon of an arm and what’s weird is that they measure from the middle also when she let go she doesn’t explode off of her legs she just carries it
Great progression, just to slow through the ring and not enough explosion at the end. Looks like she is slow with pauses in her technique as she goes through the ring instead of a powerful nonstop action moving through the ring with speed and power and explosion at the end. Has the potential though.
Bruh she beat my schools girls disc record by 10 feet as a junior in hs. 😑
(Its 110 ft)
That's it?
Wow, great progression! She threw far with pretty bad form. Bad habits started early, like lifting that back foot off the ground during the throw. It did get a little better in college, but still room for improvement. Would have been 200' plus with a better coach.
What weight is the discus?
1 kg
My pr is 140.09 and I'm in 8th grade, is that good?
Alan Austin you should just be able to tell by other people I’m in 8th grade throwing 157 as a pr and I’m beating most people by like 70 feet
@@alanaguilera947 I mean I'm 10th in state but I don't honestly think I should be with a throw of 140
This is good. But, I’m a freshman and have already thrown 124 feet. But, I do see some things you could work on. Like your block with your leg swing, and your head leading your body. But over all very nice.
did you read the title?