Should We Cancel Beethoven??
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- Nowadays we've seen article after article detailing why Beethoven or some other composer ought to be cancelled amide the modern zeitgeist of wokeness. My main point, what I want to bring to light is that these articles are most often shallow and end up doing a disservice to the conversation that ought to be had: how can we bring meaningful change to the Classical Music scene, which is underpinned with significant tones of racism, sexism, and classism?
A lot of the root cause boils down to a culture of personalities, of the hero worship of "larger-than-life" people in history. In hindsight, many of these have been found to be excessively problematic, but there has been no shift of perspective, only crystalline stasis.
Rather than suggest we performatively "cancel" a given composer or even genre, I have many a suggestion about what we can do to support new ways of thinking and hopefully inject some much needed vigor into modern, "Classical" music.
The Breakdown:
0:00 - Cancellation
2:03 - Actual Arguments
3:35 - Valid Counterpoints
6:06 - What can we do?
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That was a LOT of talking to "make your point." Here is a much quicker breakdown. I came to the US from Vienna many decades ago, and this nation, although having many good music schools and orchestras, is pretty much a vapid pool of drooling village idiots, when it comes to good music, literature, and arts and culture among the general population. You are dealing with people here in the US that actually believe Kanye West, or Jay Z and Beyonce, or popular club DJs are some type of talented "geniuses," that the the Duck Dynasty and Kartrashians are "interesting" people, and a population of maybe 45% that believe Donald tRump was a good president, patriot, and an "intelligent" person. Classical music, although in the past "controlled' somewhat by wealthy patrons of composers that desired constant new music, was actually a music for the "common people" when it came to live concerts. Yes, the wealthy aristocrats sat in the front rows with their servants behind them (or a purchased empty row), or in the balconies (to keep their distance from the often more putrid smell of the working class attendees). Though it was the music of the common man, to sooth the souls of these hard working people. And today, most serious concert attendees and classical music lovers don't concern themselves with their attire. I usually wear jeans and a blazer, and bring an over coat. Though I believe opera attendees might tend to be a bit more "snooty" about their attire...Ha! So to answer your "question," no, we do NOT "cancel" Beethoven, or any other great composer, art or literature that will always rise to the top, as the BEST of what humans have to offer. As for all the de-evolution of music and art (mainly in this vapid USA) with rap, hip hop, and modern laughable "literature" authors, "reality" TV shows, or "throw paint on a canvas artists" such as Jackson Pollock, well, I'm sorry, but you just can't put the toothpaste back in the tube. And btw...I am also a classical music composer, and former music professor of theory and orchestration.....Peace! 🎼❤
Why have you ever left vienna for the USA ? Vienna is a gorgeous wonderful city and the USA s cities are modern and ugly
I feel for you. I grew up in 1970s NYC and young people were eagerly pursuing modern music, theater and literature. My own middle class parents took me to see Stravinsky, Milhaud, George Crumb, plays by Pinter, Genet, Albee, etc., Broadway was edgy and what we today call high culture was considered cool. Today most of those names are unknown outside of university programs, the classical audience in NY is more clueless than ever and classical music listings often name a renowned soloist but not the works being performed. The current trend of cancelling great writers because they used the N word once in 1906 is largely an excuse to avoid the work of reading (or listening). Young urban people in the US pride themselves on rejecting serious culture for junk forms. Happily there's still plenty of great new classical music being written here and a somewhat elite audience to support it. Let the hipsters drink their terrible coffee and read The Hobbit again (oops that might be racist).
They want to substitute this music with urban garbage.
I've never heard of anyone wanting to cancel the guy before today, I think it's a combination of almost nobody giving a shit and cancellation being largely fictional.
I feel like this video will blow up, you have very high quality content
Thank you so much! That'd be insane if it did. I feel almost like I'd have to do a follow up to unravel some of the issues I brought up since it's such a rats' nest of a topic
@@TheodoreCheek oh I agree, it’s intertwined on so many levels😂
The thing that the elitists and the people who call it racist have in common is that they're BOTH Eurocentrists.
The elitists are outrightly Eurocentric, the people who call classical music racist view it as intrinsically superior quite simply because they react to it like it's a powerful force, which means that they're truly not actually as open to music from other cultures as they think they are.
I.e. I'll listen to Bach's Cantatas all day, and then I'll listen to some Tuvan music, with their throat singing.
I think people overvalue musical structure, and really just lose track of the part of music that is "where the rubber meets the road." What "classical" music is very good at is communicating precise emotion.
I.e. one example of this is that multiple people have come to a similar understanding of this piece: ruclips.net/video/QBxtiphzskQ/видео.html&ab_channel=EnchantedWanderer
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Love of music is about love. Elitism is destructive to the deep interpersonal connections that people can form over music.
Good points, thanks.
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