Kid:"Mom? There is a strange man with goggles sitting in a bush outside." Mother:"Don´t worry, that is just Mr. Lovhaug from down the road filming his show."
And that kid in the alternative universe grows up and thinks of that memory fondly as he tells his kids when he met the future president. "Back then the President...well I guess he was just Linksano to us then..."
I love how the TV show has Barbara already with secret HQ, stylized motorcycle, etc....and the comic is just her heading to a costume party and fell into the whole crimefighting gig by accident.
At least she did some prep work on her costume. The Creeper pretty much just grabbed whatever was to hand for his debut - or at least that's the official story. Me, I think Ditko just decided the DC universe needed a hero in a feather boa, and who's to say he was wrong?
As a Hellsing and horror fan, I totally see the influence. I agree it was clever. Also why am I not that surprised that Linksano turned out to be polyamorous ...
@@mattyoung4990 Yeah. They’d both probably find the GOP to evil for them though. Anti-science rhetoric doesn’t mix well with a mad scientist overlord platform.
Linksano: I have an idea, if it works I'll call back in a few months Me: Hmm, is he gonna amass a big campaign to convince the government to issue an apology? *White House announcement screen pops up* Me: Oh wow, he got through to the President? That version must be a lot better then- Linksano: Hello my fellow Americans! Me: JSDDFASHJDSFDSF Had to pause twice cuz my brain wouldn't compute. Pan poly reveal was a real cherry on top, bravo
I don't know if it was intended as sort of a middle finger to Frederic Wertham, but it's pretty funny that Batwoman, the character originally meant to fend off allegations of Batman being homosexual, is now one of the most famous gay heroes in comics.
Wrong Batwoman. The one we all know today is Kate Kane. The original one is Kathy Kane. No relation. Oh, and that Batwoman from 2003, Mystery Of The Batwoman, that was THREE wonen, taking turns operating in the suit so they dont draw attention to each other. It may not have been a middle finger when there were already multiple Batwomen before Kate was created in 2006.
@@Walt_Xander94 That's true, but Kate Kane is still clearly following in the footsteps of the original Batwoman, not just in using the same superhero name, but also the almost identical civilian name.
Gotta love how DC probably was more panicked by the insinuation that Batman and Robin were gay rather than the pedophilic and incestuous undertones of that statement (and yes, incestuous. Pre-Crisis Bruce DID adopt Dick and basically raised him as his son)
In their defense it wasn't that they were panicked, but more that "Seduction of the Innocence" made the government think that. What DC did was follow the rules set by the CA, one look at Golden Age Lois Lane will show that they were far from breaking social norms.
I think something similar happened with the new Aqualad. His comic version came out right before Young Justice aired, but the show gave Kaldur a supercharged popularity boost, despite his comic counterpart having a different name. And different LGBT sexuality.
16:45 that wouldn’t even help because the laser would have no explosion and thus no recoil to push him back. It’s like turning on a flashlight. So he would’ve just been sitting there waving a laser around like an idiot.
doesn't Light still have a sort of push to it since that's how Solar Sails work, probably wouldn't be able to make light intense enough to do that though
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer It does, but doing it by a light/laser is next to useless in a Vacuum, and in atmosphere its slightly less useless but still less useful that one of those battery-powered fans you can hold in your hand.
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer after looking into it some, solar sails use the radiation pressure from the sun, not the light itself. Just turning in a flashlight doesn’t add any momentum
So just to recap: new Batgirl begins semi-Bruce Wayne swoony, then ends up with Robin. Meanwhile Batwoman, who was created to deflect claims that Batman was gay, is later rebooted as a lesbian. I'm detecting an irony overload here.
@@calvinallen3424 But how would they sell toys of a hero who's an attentive lover? ;) (...I mean aside getting into the market of toys that come with multiple settings) (Neither of those are my jokes, but it's so long ago I'd never find the originals on twitter, and youtube eats hyperlinks in comments. For good reason.)
I kinda like how more modern TV appearances have had Batgirl incorporate purple at least somewhere in the outfits, as that homages Yvonne Craig’s look and is just a signature color of Batgirl, much like how Robin has the iconic red and yellow/green.
I know it's because of the small pool of actors he has but the reveal of Billy Tor's face made me think he was that universe's version of Future Linkara who got into making hiking trail review videos instead of comic book ones.
The Batgirl vs Killer moth fight in the great 2003 *"Batgirl: Year One"* _[by Chuck Dixon & Scott Beatty]_ is also an homage to this comic; actually, it's more like extended (9 issues long) edition of 'tec #359 , where Killer Moth is still Barbara's first official Big Bad, but instead of the Moth-goons, Killer Moth recruits Firefly to help him with his Moth-signal protection racket. Since the 2022 Batgirl movie has already revealed that Brendan Fraser with play Firefly, I keep hoping that they'll announce Killer Moth's actor ASAP, I want to believe... >< Killer Moth also had a pretty damn cool apparition in *Batgirl Rebirth* #37 & #38 , where he decides to take her out once and for all, in a callback to their first encounter, but with both characters having way more experience and much cooler gadgets \o/ I've always found it funny in Gail Simone's *Birds of Prey* , when Barbara confesses to Lady Blackhawk (she was telling her her most embarrassing secrets) that when started out as a vigilante, she had the biggest crush on Killer Moth because his voice sounded cool.
It's neat that Batgirl, who could just be seen as just someone copying Batman, teams up with Batman to stop a guy who makes money by ripping off Batman's style down to even having his own moth mobile. Also, I had initially thought the video might be about Montoya when Linkara mentioned that it would focus on a character who first appeared on a batman-related show.
That would be interesting, though he might want to first do Question, even if that gets into a whole thing like with the original Blue Beetle and several other characters originally not in DC comics, but Charlton, which I only learned via the DC Showcase of Blue Beetle making a little in joke. That short (not sure if you can watch it independently through streaming, I had to buy Long Halloween Part 2) was more in the vein of 60s pulp with promotionals about comics, like the Charlton Action Heroes (Question, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and Captain Atom all featured as heroes, plus the villain Dr. Spectro). Peacemaker, at least some version of him, also originated there, which is interesting.
That would have been good timing, with the *Gotham* Renée Montoya, played by Victoria Cartagena, reprises her role in the (terrible, so far) season 3 of *Batwoman* I wanted to at least watch the 5th episode, *"A Lesson from Professor Pyg"* , because I love me some Prof Pygmalion, and this particular episode is directed by my man David Ramsey (aka Diggle aka future Green Lantern). But yeah, it turned out to be a piece of shit. Much like the Mad Hatter in this same season 3, the *Batwoman* Prof Pyg doesn't hold a candle to the *Gotham* version of the character. I stuck by season 2 because my man Black Mask was a great Big Bad, but without him to carry the entire show I can say with confidence that this will be the last episode of that show I'll ever watch. ... I mean, they teased Flamingo at the end of last episode, and Eduardo Flamingo has been a favorite minor Batfam-rogue of mine since times immemorial (and he was pretty badass in *Gotham* even if sadly he only appeared in one episode) I'm kinda curious as to how they'll butcher him, but I'll just watch clips on youtube. Maybe. Probably... Dang it :'(
@@randallflagg3700 Only having a bit of exposure to Pyg, I enjoyed what they did here, even if he might've been a bit theatrical. The character is tough to do justice, esp. if the Gotham version really emphasizes and shows off his psychotic nature that was part of his inception as a new part of the rogues gallery. They ended that episode with the character dead, but teasing a new version of Joker seemingly (given that they confirmed in S2 he was killed by Batman), so there's that way to get around the embargo, similar to other characters that are limited. Poison Ivy being in a relationship with Montoya was also noted in that episode, possibly an original concept, though I recall she and Batwoman or another prominent female character were in a relationship (maybe from Batman Bad Blood, iirc, where she and Kate talked about their past fling)
@@randallflagg3700 as a batwoman comic fan, Batwoman (Kate Kane) has dated both Renee Montoya (this goes back as far as the weekly series 52) and Maggie Sawyer (they shared a dance in 2010 before starting to date in the new 52)She’s had other love interests, but those are the two of note. In fact, Kate was supposed to marry Maggie in 2014 or 2015, but DC editorial nixed it. They stated that it was because they didn’t want main tier superheroes to get hitched as it would make them boring (completely forgetting that Aquaman Superman and the Flash (I think) we’re all married at this time). The Batwoman creative team of JH Williams III and William Blackman felt it had to do with it being a gay wedding and left the book in protest. And no, poison ivy and Montoya have never dated in the comics. Montoya despite being created in the early 90s, wasnt confirmed gay until 2003 with the excellent Rucka/Brubaker penned series Gotham Central and the five part story Half a Life. She has also had several love interests but Kate Kane is the only one of note.
@@ToHoldNothing also when Alan Moore was originally writing watched he planned on using the Charlton heroes. When DC said no, we are going to bring them into the DC universe proper, the Peacemaker served as a template for the Comedian (The question was Rorschach, captain atom dr Manhattan and blue beetle nite owl)
What the good doc didn't say is that he really got carried in the poles by his choice for VP which was also a collection of ghosts only they haunt a Monster Truck they went around battling Kajius. Also a great wing man of dates and really tried to cover for Linksano on a few. I have no idea where that rambling came from.
Wow. Ya got me. I thought I knew everything about the Batman TV show, but Batgirl's TV roots were well beyond me. Although this DOES raise the question of why Bill Dozier felt the need to create a brand-new Batgirl in the first place instead of just adapting the original Batwoman and Bat-girl to quell rumors that Adam West and Burt Ward's Batman and Robin were ALSO gay... 10:19 - Oh dear... The narration is talking about how Babs is having the time of her life... and her face in the 3rd panel looks like THAT. No comment... lol "Seriously, her outfit is a frikkin' Transformer!" They DID have a little sequence in Yvonne Craig's screentest/pilot that showed her doing this, turning her skirt inside-out to become the cape, her purse becoming her belt, etc. I wish we saw a bit more of that in the show itself, that was awesome. *_"I just know your BOOBS would get in the way of crimefighting!"_* No, Batman, you're thinking of POWER Girl. _Information: My cat is jingling on the stairs._ ...I've never been so afraid of something so seemingly adorable...
You know, from the description of the famine and the decision to murder people to feed others I was already thinking "Wait, isn't this the backstory of The Conscience of the King?" And then the governor in question's name is Tarsus Well played.
Linksano’s sexuality being causally brought up. Nice. What he did to help Linkara in this episode, he’s a true bro. Linksano is easily one of my favorite in the storylines
4:18 Must say I kinda already miss the last Secret origins mouth intro and theme, sound more cartoony lol 23:26 Nimue would make a great Pokedex :D 31:31 That ending made me laugh out loud, thanks, Lewis :D
Yea I was literally thinking about "But Linkara did Harley Quinn" and now I'm like "OH... didn't know that!". I guess we can thank the Batman show for causing DC to create the actual Batgirl huh? Kinda neat! KILLER MOTH! God I love how stupid he looks and how in Teen Titans animated series version makes him like a moth man. Hey, at least Linksano was president. I'm surprised he wasn't kick out of his office for creating a doomsday weapon against an alien invasion that work BUT cause the birth of mutants.
You know how it goes, the creative mood hits you. You start making a cosplay. You get really into it, and next thing you know you're integrating it into your regular wardrobe...
Well, that was a fun episode. A great debut for a beloved character, thus setting the stage for a long eventful career. For better and worse alike. And the story segment made for an interesting encounter. I won't spoil it for anyone who browses the comments before finishing the video, but I will give credit where it's due. Top notch, everyone. I look forward to seeing what comes next.
How could one be mad with his wonderful storytelling and funny reviews. He still has has me engrossed with his show 13 years later. He needs to stop being so hard himself.
Bab's is one of my favorite DC characters...didn't even let the injuries and horror that Joker put her and her father through in The Killing joke stop her from fighting crime by helping Bats and the JLA as Oracle...
How foolish I was. I believed that Linksano was just making a fake video that made it look like he was the president. I should not have underestimated that magnificent bastard! Well played! :)
I really like the Batgirl of TV series. Her portrayal was my first exposure to Batgirl as was to many kids in the late 80s and early 90s. Sure, it may seem bland by today's standards, but it was a great start.
Governor Tarsis was a reference to the TOS episode the conscience of the king right? the governor there executed half a population due to a draught amongst them a lot of Jim Kirks friends and the event shaped him for the rest of his life.
I assume the other end was tethered to Spider-Man, who was swinging by on a web-line off-panel and far overhead. Said web-line was, of course, attached to the Satellite of Love.
6:22 Funny thing about his helmet resembling a grashopper is that in the original Teen Titans cartoon, in spite of the moth aesthetic being more clear, his helmet looked like those of the classic Kamen Riders who had a grasshopper motif.
Linksano revealed to of made himself President to fix this mess made me laugh so much. XD "My Cat is jingling on the stairs"....why does that sound ominous? Also, she finally got a new monitor to communicate with!
I appreciate "Lethal Lepidopteran" so much. Also I can't get over the idea of Barbara disguising her voice by doing the Nolan--verse Batman. *"WHERE ARE THEY?!"*
I do not know how to feel about NIMUE's final message. I don't know if that's a clue for future storyline stuff or just Allison talking about Ash in NIMUE's voice Also, Bi Poly Linksano FTW!
@@AT4W I saw it as a play on when people HAVE to call attention to their pets doing something cute, but it's all the more funny because it's NIMUE, the advanced super-computer whose schtick is saying "INFORMATION," before... well, giving information. Because let's face it, and I say this as someone who owns a dog and two cats, pets doing something cute is vital information that must never be overlooked... ever!
Cover: Is she heroine or villainess? Me: Why would you even ask that? You’re just going to answer that in the first narration panel. Like the covers for Iron Man’s and Spider-Girl’s first comic, you pose this question like it’s a mystery when the very first page makes the answer clear. It’s like “wanna hear a joke? The aristocrats!” I think you’re missing a step or two there!
@@sarasamaletdin4574 I bought a lot of those cheap three-books-in-a-polybag sets when I was a kid, mostly because there were no comic shops anywhere yet and that was what the local drug store stocked. You not only couldn't open the books beforehand, you were pretty much reduced to guessing at what the middle book in the trio was.
Linksano jumped universes, became president, discovered is sexuality, and balanced tge time differential between universes so he could go back to see his Russian lover. Good for him.
Ah Barbara Gordon. A great character all around, though I honestly prefer her as Oracle instead of Batgirl. I just think a wheelchair using hero who still just as, if not more, capable to stop crime by using her brain instead of her strength is cool and I'm sad we lost Oracle since the New 52
Apparently there’s some new comic about Barbara Gordan as Oracle or something, lemme check The Oracle Code, released last year, bout the same time coronavirus came to the states…. Hey wait a minute
That little piggy certainly did, yes. Myself, I've always found the middle piggy's unnatural lust for the flesh of cattle quite off-putting. I'm vaguely surprised the little monster didn't appear as a porcine supervillain in one of those Chick-fil-a supercow comics.
Just once I'd like to see a pocket dimension that's actually that. Trapped between two constricting walls of fabric, struggling to keep from being crushed by comedically-oversized coins and car keys, and just when you think you're safe a gigantic smartphone descends from on high to grind you into the lint.
7:30 having unfortunately seen the animated version of the killing joke, I sadly could see Linkara’s joke being entirely serious to her character. 11:00 Was that a Kindred reference?
Well to be fair, both The New Batman Adventures and Batman Beyond all blatantly stated Bruce and Barbara had a thing at one point. I’m just surprised how many people forgot that.
The reference at 11:00 was actually to Spiderman Sins Past, the story where it looked like Gwen Stacy gave birth to Peter's twins but they were actually Norman Osborn's. The whole mess starts with a letter addressed to Peter.
@@drakkenmensch Yeah but one of Nick Spencer's last Spider-Man issues actually retconned those events. Turns out the twins were clones- Harry orchestrated the plan before his death and used subliminal hypnotherapy and mind-altering gas to make Norman think he was the dad. And then Mephisto used versions of the clones to create his Kindred puppets.
Let's be honest - as much as everybody makes fun of Killer Moth and his Silver Age costume, we all love it. It's goofy, sure, but in the best way possible and way better than the needlessly grim and cynical "Charaxes" redesign he got in Underworld Unleashed. I think we can all agree that other than later artists smartly updating the cape into wings, Infantino nailed it with this design and its always fun seeing KM pop up in this outfit.
This was really good and worth the wait...but WOW this storyline is cursed to hell considering how long it's taking to finish (None of which is your fault). Over 4 years.
Maybe it's the alliteration, maybe it's the technical term being used, maybe it's because it's charmingly over-verbose, but "lethal lepidopteran" is a description that just makes me happy.
The Caged Demonwolf sneers at such feeble efforts. True alliteration requires at least a triple play to even qualify as worthy of notice. Go with "the larcenous lawbreaker in his lepidopteran livery launched into a lethal lunge" and you've got something going on. :)
5:19 She's such an incredible new luminary that someday they're going to stick her upper torso into the Batsignal. 5:42 Her merchandising deal made sure nobody would see any merch of hers until an entire decade afterwards. (While Batman and Robin had been around for 25 years, thus making it "difficult" for Adam West and Burt Ward to claim that something was advertising the actual TV show versions of them, Yvonne Craig had it so ANY merch featuring Batgirl for an entire decade afterward would gain her a small percent of profit................................. and so almost NO ONE BOTHERED to make any Batgirl merch for about an entire decade!!!!!) 10:11 Insert Don Adams here.
Barbara is legit one of my all-time favorite superheroes. Also, why are all of the most awesome female characters that I had crushes on as a child redheads? I mean, you've got April O'Neil, Barbara Gordon, Mary Jane Watson, Misty (I was literally 10, give me a break), Sora Takenouchi (again, I was 10), Jean Grey, Jessica Rabbit, Daphne Blake...
@@JaelinBezel probably dyed or just the lighting, since she goes back to being a redhead in the (retconned out of existence) 02 epilogue and Last Evolution Kizuna. Just went and double-checked, to be sure.
I see they really went with the Hot Goth Librarian for the initial character profile of Barbra Gordon. Demure glasses? Check. Bunned hair? Check. Synched waistline? Check. Black everything clothing choices with a single color offset (in this case a tight, knee length skirt)? Check and phew-boy CHECK. Methinks the creators were less creative and allowing some repressed feelings come to the surface.
You know it's weird but Dr. Linksano sounds a lot different when he's explaining something and it almost gives off a Dr. Who vibe to me. Is Linksano a Time Lord?
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Kid:"Mom? There is a strange man with goggles sitting in a bush outside."
Mother:"Don´t worry, that is just Mr. Lovhaug from down the road filming his show."
and let's not forget Mr. Walker dressed like a Ghostbuster running down the street yelling "CASPER!!!!!"
And that kid in the alternative universe grows up and thinks of that memory fondly as he tells his kids when he met the future president. "Back then the President...well I guess he was just Linksano to us then..."
I'm not crazy, just creative. - Panda Redd.
@@djwarrior5150 nah the kid vrows up to be a reviewer
I love how the TV show has Barbara already with secret HQ, stylized motorcycle, etc....and the comic is just her heading to a costume party and fell into the whole crimefighting gig by accident.
She was obviously looking for an excuse to debut.
Either way. Can we agree we don’t want to think of a world without that accident?
At least she did some prep work on her costume. The Creeper pretty much just grabbed whatever was to hand for his debut - or at least that's the official story. Me, I think Ditko just decided the DC universe needed a hero in a feather boa, and who's to say he was wrong?
Its weird thats how it happened to enchantress. Think they were at the same party?
I'm going to imagine she's just a *very* fast interior decorator and motorcycle pimper.
4:58
Alfred: “Yes, I admit it. I am Bat-Girl”
Bruce: “Good for you, Alfred. Good for you”
Very progressive for the time. I like it.
Startling!
The problem with that timestamp is it's pointless. I *manually* need to go to 4:53, or just somehow remember what was said in it.
@@Mechanomly ok
@@goob_goob_gooby_goob Ok.
I choose to assume that Linksano defeated Anton York’s re-election bid. For which we are all very grateful.
The Anton York-Joke will never stop being funny.
@@alexandersturnn4530 who?
@@gracekim1998 Watch Linkara's review of the Gold Key Star Trek Comic.
@@alexandersturnn4530 oh um ok, thanks for sharing
@@gracekim1998 You're welcome. The Joke gets started in that video.
So, Vorhees, if he ran on Alucard style immortality. Actually, fairly novel.
In an alternate, ALTERNATE universe, he was taken down (at least temporarily) by Linksander Landerson, God's Lamp Reviewer.
@@chymos6628 that’s still just Lampkara
As a Hellsing and horror fan, I totally see the influence. I agree it was clever.
Also why am I not that surprised that Linksano turned out to be polyamorous ...
Is there a universe where he gets a 70 inch plasma screen TV?
@@doggosho3044 | With Netflix?
Dr. Linksano became president to put Billy Tor at peace so Linkara could win. Well, he certainly got my vote if he decides to run in this universe.
its even more funny when you learn that this universes dr insano ran and became president back in 08
@@mattyoung4990 Yeah. They’d both probably find the GOP to evil for them though. Anti-science rhetoric doesn’t mix well with a mad scientist overlord platform.
How DID he get elected actually?
@@jamesadamsfl He’s a mad scientist. He got creative.
Oh that's the joke about the prostitute cop? Damn that's and old reference.
Linksano: I have an idea, if it works I'll call back in a few months
Me: Hmm, is he gonna amass a big campaign to convince the government to issue an apology?
*White House announcement screen pops up*
Me: Oh wow, he got through to the President? That version must be a lot better then-
Linksano: Hello my fellow Americans!
Me: JSDDFASHJDSFDSF
Had to pause twice cuz my brain wouldn't compute. Pan poly reveal was a real cherry on top, bravo
I don't know if it was intended as sort of a middle finger to Frederic Wertham, but it's pretty funny that Batwoman, the character originally meant to fend off allegations of Batman being homosexual, is now one of the most famous gay heroes in comics.
Wrong Batwoman. The one we all know today is Kate Kane. The original one is Kathy Kane. No relation.
Oh, and that Batwoman from 2003, Mystery Of The Batwoman, that was THREE wonen, taking turns operating in the suit so they dont draw attention to each other.
It may not have been a middle finger when there were already multiple Batwomen before Kate was created in 2006.
@@Walt_Xander94 That's true, but Kate Kane is still clearly following in the footsteps of the original Batwoman, not just in using the same superhero name, but also the almost identical civilian name.
Linksano saying 'Pan and Poly but go on' Made me feel great inside.
That means Pansexual and Polyamorous right?
@@KojinMacJorn Yeah 👍
@@KojinMacJorn ok🤷♀️
That storyline resolution was surprisingly funny and creative
Gotta love how DC probably was more panicked by the insinuation that Batman and Robin were gay rather than the pedophilic and incestuous undertones of that statement (and yes, incestuous. Pre-Crisis Bruce DID adopt Dick and basically raised him as his son)
It was the '50s. They thought gay men and pedophiles were the same.
In their defense it wasn't that they were panicked, but more that "Seduction of the Innocence" made the government think that. What DC did was follow the rules set by the CA, one look at Golden Age Lois Lane will show that they were far from breaking social norms.
I mean it's all one bundle. Equating homosexuality with incest and pedophilia was and is a core part of homophobic arguments
All versions of Bruce Wayne adopt Dick Grayson
back in he day they probably didn't make much a difference between being gay and pedophilia
I had no idea the tv/comic history of Bat girl’s origin were so connected but the more you know
I think something similar happened with the new Aqualad. His comic version came out right before Young Justice aired, but the show gave Kaldur a supercharged popularity boost, despite his comic counterpart having a different name. And different LGBT sexuality.
@@benwasserman8223 That being said, There's always a reason why the characters are created.
Something similar happened with the creation of She-Hulk. Though in that case, she was created more as a just-in-case IP generation
16:45 that wouldn’t even help because the laser would have no explosion and thus no recoil to push him back. It’s like turning on a flashlight. So he would’ve just been sitting there waving a laser around like an idiot.
Like with the aftermentioned blast radius.
doesn't Light still have a sort of push to it since that's how Solar Sails work, probably wouldn't be able to make light intense enough to do that though
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer It does, but doing it by a light/laser is next to useless in a Vacuum, and in atmosphere its slightly less useless but still less useful that one of those battery-powered fans you can hold in your hand.
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer if it does it’s negligible
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer after looking into it some, solar sails use the radiation pressure from the sun, not the light itself. Just turning in a flashlight doesn’t add any momentum
9:46 I can only imagine how having both those masks has got to feel on his head. Gotta love his commitment to these quick gags
I love that each fight in the COC up to now have been very creative and doesn't resort to "punching the opponent REALLY hard"
6:00 - HELP, I'M FALLING AT A 60 DEGREE ANGLE BREAKING ALL THE LAWS OF PHYSIIIIICS!!
So just to recap: new Batgirl begins semi-Bruce Wayne swoony, then ends up with Robin. Meanwhile Batwoman, who was created to deflect claims that Batman was gay, is later rebooted as a lesbian. I'm detecting an irony overload here.
Well, Bruce doesn't do oral so it's hard to keep women interested.
Not just a lesbian but also Bruce's cousin.
Unless you count that Killing Joke movie…which no one wants to,
@@calvinallen3424 But how would they sell toys of a hero who's an attentive lover? ;)
(...I mean aside getting into the market of toys that come with multiple settings)
(Neither of those are my jokes, but it's so long ago I'd never find the originals on twitter, and youtube eats hyperlinks in comments. For good reason.)
Is the 60s Barbara why we get so much Barbara/Bruce in Bruce Timm’s stuff?
Dang fun storyline segment, Linkara! And solid slasher villain backstory!
Seems like Linkara should turn this into a movie script!
I kinda like how more modern TV appearances have had Batgirl incorporate purple at least somewhere in the outfits, as that homages Yvonne Craig’s look and is just a signature color of Batgirl, much like how Robin has the iconic red and yellow/green.
Pan and Poly Linksano in happy relationships is something delightful that I did not know I needed. Yay :)
I know it's because of the small pool of actors he has but the reveal of Billy Tor's face made me think he was that universe's version of Future Linkara who got into making hiking trail review videos instead of comic book ones.
A slasher who runs on Hellsing Alucard style immortality and Linksano discovering he's pan/poly. All in all, a day for discoveries.
So that Batgirl vs. Killer Moth fight in the Brave and the Bold cartoon was an homage to this comic. Now it makes sense!
The Doom Patrol sacrificing themselves to save twelve people is also something that happened in the comics
The Batgirl vs Killer moth fight in the great 2003 *"Batgirl: Year One"* _[by Chuck Dixon & Scott Beatty]_ is also an homage to this comic; actually, it's more like extended (9 issues long) edition of 'tec #359 , where Killer Moth is still Barbara's first official Big Bad, but instead of the Moth-goons, Killer Moth recruits Firefly to help him with his Moth-signal protection racket.
Since the 2022 Batgirl movie has already revealed that Brendan Fraser with play Firefly, I keep hoping that they'll announce Killer Moth's actor ASAP, I want to believe... ><
Killer Moth also had a pretty damn cool apparition in *Batgirl Rebirth* #37 & #38 , where he decides to take her out once and for all, in a callback to their first encounter, but with both characters having way more experience and much cooler gadgets \o/
I've always found it funny in Gail Simone's *Birds of Prey* , when Barbara confesses to Lady Blackhawk (she was telling her her most embarrassing secrets) that when started out as a vigilante, she had the biggest crush on Killer Moth because his voice sounded cool.
It's neat that Batgirl, who could just be seen as just someone copying Batman, teams up with Batman to stop a guy who makes money by ripping off Batman's style down to even having his own moth mobile.
Also, I had initially thought the video might be about Montoya when Linkara mentioned that it would focus on a character who first appeared on a batman-related show.
That would be interesting, though he might want to first do Question, even if that gets into a whole thing like with the original Blue Beetle and several other characters originally not in DC comics, but Charlton, which I only learned via the DC Showcase of Blue Beetle making a little in joke. That short (not sure if you can watch it independently through streaming, I had to buy Long Halloween Part 2) was more in the vein of 60s pulp with promotionals about comics, like the Charlton Action Heroes (Question, Blue Beetle, Nightshade and Captain Atom all featured as heroes, plus the villain Dr. Spectro).
Peacemaker, at least some version of him, also originated there, which is interesting.
That would have been good timing, with the *Gotham* Renée Montoya, played by Victoria Cartagena, reprises her role in the (terrible, so far) season 3 of *Batwoman*
I wanted to at least watch the 5th episode, *"A Lesson from Professor Pyg"* , because I love me some Prof Pygmalion, and this particular episode is directed by my man David Ramsey (aka Diggle aka future Green Lantern).
But yeah, it turned out to be a piece of shit. Much like the Mad Hatter in this same season 3, the *Batwoman* Prof Pyg doesn't hold a candle to the *Gotham* version of the character.
I stuck by season 2 because my man Black Mask was a great Big Bad, but without him to carry the entire show I can say with confidence that this will be the last episode of that show I'll ever watch.
... I mean, they teased Flamingo at the end of last episode, and Eduardo Flamingo has been a favorite minor Batfam-rogue of mine since times immemorial
(and he was pretty badass in *Gotham* even if sadly he only appeared in one episode)
I'm kinda curious as to how they'll butcher him, but I'll just watch clips on youtube. Maybe.
Probably...
Dang it :'(
@@randallflagg3700 Only having a bit of exposure to Pyg, I enjoyed what they did here, even if he might've been a bit theatrical. The character is tough to do justice, esp. if the Gotham version really emphasizes and shows off his psychotic nature that was part of his inception as a new part of the rogues gallery.
They ended that episode with the character dead, but teasing a new version of Joker seemingly (given that they confirmed in S2 he was killed by Batman), so there's that way to get around the embargo, similar to other characters that are limited.
Poison Ivy being in a relationship with Montoya was also noted in that episode, possibly an original concept, though I recall she and Batwoman or another prominent female character were in a relationship (maybe from Batman Bad Blood, iirc, where she and Kate talked about their past fling)
@@randallflagg3700 as a batwoman comic fan, Batwoman (Kate Kane) has dated both Renee Montoya (this goes back as far as the weekly series 52) and Maggie Sawyer (they shared a dance in 2010 before starting to date in the new 52)She’s had other love interests, but those are the two of note. In fact, Kate was supposed to marry Maggie in 2014 or 2015, but DC editorial nixed it. They stated that it was because they didn’t want main tier superheroes to get hitched as it would make them boring (completely forgetting that Aquaman Superman and the Flash (I think) we’re all married at this time). The Batwoman creative team of JH Williams III and William Blackman felt it had to do with it being a gay wedding and left the book in protest. And no, poison ivy and Montoya have never dated in the comics. Montoya despite being created in the early 90s, wasnt confirmed gay until 2003 with the excellent Rucka/Brubaker penned series Gotham Central and the five part story Half a Life. She has also had several love interests but Kate Kane is the only one of note.
@@ToHoldNothing also when Alan Moore was originally writing watched he planned on using the Charlton heroes. When DC said no, we are going to bring them into the DC universe proper, the Peacemaker served as a template for the Comedian (The question was Rorschach, captain atom dr Manhattan and blue beetle nite owl)
What the good doc didn't say is that he really got carried in the poles by his choice for VP which was also a collection of ghosts only they haunt a Monster Truck they went around battling Kajius. Also a great wing man of dates and really tried to cover for Linksano on a few.
I have no idea where that rambling came from.
Linkara hearted this so it's canon
11:09 I see Killer Moth took the Leaky-Eye Luca school of Protection Rackets.
"Pay me money so that I'll protect you from myself!"
Wow. Ya got me. I thought I knew everything about the Batman TV show, but Batgirl's TV roots were well beyond me. Although this DOES raise the question of why Bill Dozier felt the need to create a brand-new Batgirl in the first place instead of just adapting the original Batwoman and Bat-girl to quell rumors that Adam West and Burt Ward's Batman and Robin were ALSO gay...
10:19 - Oh dear... The narration is talking about how Babs is having the time of her life... and her face in the 3rd panel looks like THAT. No comment... lol
"Seriously, her outfit is a frikkin' Transformer!"
They DID have a little sequence in Yvonne Craig's screentest/pilot that showed her doing this, turning her skirt inside-out to become the cape, her purse becoming her belt, etc. I wish we saw a bit more of that in the show itself, that was awesome.
*_"I just know your BOOBS would get in the way of crimefighting!"_*
No, Batman, you're thinking of POWER Girl.
_Information: My cat is jingling on the stairs._
...I've never been so afraid of something so seemingly adorable...
" WEE WEE WEE" words of gratitude mr Billy
To quote a nursery rhyme, "And this little piggy went 'wee wee wee' all the way home."
Might've been a reference to TFS, where after Seras kills the Captain, he squeals in a falsetto while burning to ash.
You know, from the description of the famine and the decision to murder people to feed others I was already thinking "Wait, isn't this the backstory of The Conscience of the King?" And then the governor in question's name is Tarsus
Well played.
_[Watches storyline segment]_
This little serial killer went "WEE WEE WEE" alllllll the way home!🤣
(Couldn't resist)
Yep 😂 we were ALL thinking that 😜
Linksano’s sexuality being causally brought up. Nice. What he did to help Linkara in this episode, he’s a true bro.
Linksano is easily one of my favorite in the storylines
I actually really like the idea of Batgirl's normal outfit becoming her costume. I think that's so cool. (12:56)
"Hello, I'm Babs Gordon." "And I'm Babs Bunny." "No relation."
4:18 Must say I kinda already miss the last Secret origins mouth intro and theme, sound more cartoony lol
23:26 Nimue would make a great Pokedex :D
31:31 That ending made me laugh out loud, thanks, Lewis :D
Yvonne Craig's story about the time she ran over Vincent Price's foot with the Batgirl Cycle is the stuff of legend.
Yea I was literally thinking about "But Linkara did Harley Quinn" and now I'm like "OH... didn't know that!". I guess we can thank the Batman show for causing DC to create the actual Batgirl huh? Kinda neat!
KILLER MOTH! God I love how stupid he looks and how in Teen Titans animated series version makes him like a moth man.
Hey, at least Linksano was president. I'm surprised he wasn't kick out of his office for creating a doomsday weapon against an alien invasion that work BUT cause the birth of mutants.
God, I LOVE the over-the-top intro text of 1960s comics. A charm you just can't get these days.
My first exposure to Barbara was Batman 1966. Heck, my first exposure to the Batman franchise was Batman 1966. :D
Same here! With the reruns!
Well, as it turns out, she was invented for the show, so you caught her in her purest form.
The Batgirl cycle is so delightfully over the top, and then you see the Kitty Car…
I still want to read the Batman ‘66 Meets The Green Hornet comic.
"Is she heroine or villainess?" seems pretty obvious, but now I want to see the alternate universe where Batgirl is a villain.
You know how it goes, the creative mood hits you. You start making a cosplay. You get really into it, and next thing you know you're integrating it into your regular wardrobe...
So there was a precedent for how in Lego Batman Barbara Gordon went to Harvard for Police.
Yep apparently
Barbara Gordon is one of my favorite characters.
And it's awesome that she leaped from the comic to TV so soon.
Well, that was a fun episode. A great debut for a beloved character, thus setting the stage for a long eventful career. For better and worse alike. And the story segment made for an interesting encounter. I won't spoil it for anyone who browses the comments before finishing the video, but I will give credit where it's due. Top notch, everyone. I look forward to seeing what comes next.
What do yall wanna bet that Linkara is gonna be mad at himself for schedule slip when nobody else is mad about it?
How could one be mad with his wonderful storytelling and funny reviews. He still has has me engrossed with his show 13 years later. He needs to stop being so hard himself.
@@fanofpink Agreed
Bab's is one of my favorite DC characters...didn't even let the injuries and horror that Joker put her and her father through in The Killing joke stop her from fighting crime by helping Bats and the JLA as Oracle...
And all this characterisation go on the toillet after new 52.
@@MrSafior From what Linkara has said, that’s one of many problems with the reboot.
Still think the original way her injuries came about was gross and fridgey… but good on the likes of Gail Simone for salvaging her
How foolish I was. I believed that Linksano was just making a fake video that made it look like he was the president. I should not have underestimated that magnificent bastard! Well played! :)
I’m a big fan of the Barbara Gordon version of Batgirl, so that got an automatic like from me. The Sins Past joke got a chuckle. Great review overall.
I really like the Batgirl of TV series. Her portrayal was my first exposure to Batgirl as was to many kids in the late 80s and early 90s. Sure, it may seem bland by today's standards, but it was a great start.
Governor Tarsis was a reference to the TOS episode the conscience of the king right? the governor there executed half a population due to a draught amongst them a lot of Jim Kirks friends and the event shaped him for the rest of his life.
9:42
"What the hell is that attached to?"
Well, Killer Moth obviously.
Touché
I assume the other end was tethered to Spider-Man, who was swinging by on a web-line off-panel and far overhead. Said web-line was, of course, attached to the Satellite of Love.
6:22 Funny thing about his helmet resembling a grashopper is that in the original Teen Titans cartoon, in spite of the moth aesthetic being more clear, his helmet looked like those of the classic Kamen Riders who had a grasshopper motif.
28:38 huh, baller move Doctor.
30:26 well, as long as everyone is happy and you don’t give away state secrets.
That "moth" logo with 8 legs kills the biologist in me.
Science!
Linksano revealed to of made himself President to fix this mess made me laugh so much. XD
"My Cat is jingling on the stairs"....why does that sound ominous? Also, she finally got a new monitor to communicate with!
Linksano 2024! It's just a matter of figuring out who his VP would be. Also, Allison has a great computer voice for sure.
I appreciate "Lethal Lepidopteran" so much.
Also I can't get over the idea of Barbara disguising her voice by doing the Nolan--verse Batman. *"WHERE ARE THEY?!"*
Comic: What is her startling secret identity!?
Linkara: Ehhhhh... *shrug* Alfred?
Alfred: Just once I'd like someone to believe that. ...Hold on-
"My cat is jingling on the stairs."
To Quote Linkara: "WHAT?!"
Absolutely LLOOVVEE the new visuals for the Secret Origins intro
0:09: That is a nice and exciting intro to Secret Origins Month.
So Linksano's plan... was to be elected president in order to help Linkara? I was not expecting that, and I'm glad I was here to witness it! :)
10:39 - 10:46 Unless those shelves can be accessed from both sides, she's putting all those books back on the shelf backwards.
OK, I did not see that ending of the fight coming... Well played, Linkara! Well played!
I do not know how to feel about NIMUE's final message. I don't know if that's a clue for future storyline stuff or just Allison talking about Ash in NIMUE's voice
Also, Bi Poly Linksano FTW!
It was just a joke blooper that Allison had that I decided to keep in. =)
@@AT4W you know a section of your fan base latches on to everything
@@AT4W I saw it as a play on when people HAVE to call attention to their pets doing something cute, but it's all the more funny because it's NIMUE, the advanced super-computer whose schtick is saying "INFORMATION," before... well, giving information. Because let's face it, and I say this as someone who owns a dog and two cats, pets doing something cute is vital information that must never be overlooked... ever!
@@ryanrobotham7696 "QUERY: Who's a cute kitty? INFORMATION: It's you. You are a cute kitty."
They've always had cats.
Cover: Is she heroine or villainess?
Me: Why would you even ask that? You’re just going to answer that in the first narration panel. Like the covers for Iron Man’s and Spider-Girl’s first comic, you pose this question like it’s a mystery when the very first page makes the answer clear. It’s like “wanna hear a joke? The aristocrats!” I think you’re missing a step or two there!
I guess they assume the kids reading won’t open the cover before bying.
@@sarasamaletdin4574 I bought a lot of those cheap three-books-in-a-polybag sets when I was a kid, mostly because there were no comic shops anywhere yet and that was what the local drug store stocked. You not only couldn't open the books beforehand, you were pretty much reduced to guessing at what the middle book in the trio was.
@@jlev1028 *coughTerracough*
That Bat-Spider gag makes me want to see you do it for a review of the Batman Spider-Man crossovers.
Good to see Dr. Linksano being useful. Any chance we have another trial run of Political affairs for this universe?
Now that is a badass intro for secret origins month. And covering Batgirl too? Now that's a hell of a way to start the month.
Linksano jumped universes, became president, discovered is sexuality, and balanced tge time differential between universes so he could go back to see his Russian lover.
Good for him.
Barbara is at least 26 here, evidenced by her PhD. This takes place in Silver Year 7 making Batman 27 during this story.
Her purse is a utility belt? why kind of origami-esque shenanigans are at work here?
She turns her purse inside out because it’s like a tardis except that it’s bigger on the outside.
Ah Barbara Gordon. A great character all around, though I honestly prefer her as Oracle instead of Batgirl.
I just think a wheelchair using hero who still just as, if not more, capable to stop crime by using her brain instead of her strength is cool and I'm sad we lost Oracle since the New 52
Same here. I will never stop lamenting that loss.
Apparently there’s some new comic about Barbara Gordan as Oracle or something, lemme check
The Oracle Code, released last year, bout the same time coronavirus came to the states…. Hey wait a minute
@@JaelinBezel Yeah, but she no longer on a wheel chair.
@@MrSafior How did they explain anyways?
@@Mobysimo Some kind of micro ship, I think.
So Rate me dumb, but was I seeing the Billy Tor ending as he Literally went Wee Wee Wee all the way home?
That little piggy certainly did, yes.
Myself, I've always found the middle piggy's unnatural lust for the flesh of cattle quite off-putting. I'm vaguely surprised the little monster didn't appear as a porcine supervillain in one of those Chick-fil-a supercow comics.
"Wee wee wee!"
...to quote Linkara: WHAT?!
I like Billy's gesture after he lands in the pocket dimension. It was very,
"You dropped me in a pocket dimension? Seriously?"
Just once I'd like to see a pocket dimension that's actually that. Trapped between two constricting walls of fabric, struggling to keep from being crushed by comedically-oversized coins and car keys, and just when you think you're safe a gigantic smartphone descends from on high to grind you into the lint.
Poor Linkara. Falling behind on his video posts because Moarte hogs up the computer and editing suite in October.
That and Sinclair taking over his studio on release nights.
Wow, that's my new headcanon
14:38 I was really hoping for Lewis to say in a his serious Batman voice "Girls are ewy and have cooties!"
Damn it Linkara, I was eating at 8:30, and I laughed so hard, I have tomato and cheese sauce in my sinuses.
7:30 having unfortunately seen the animated version of the killing joke, I sadly could see Linkara’s joke being entirely serious to her character.
11:00 Was that a Kindred reference?
Well to be fair, both The New Batman Adventures and Batman Beyond all blatantly stated Bruce and Barbara had a thing at one point. I’m just surprised how many people forgot that.
The reference at 11:00 was actually to Spiderman Sins Past, the story where it looked like Gwen Stacy gave birth to Peter's twins but they were actually Norman Osborn's. The whole mess starts with a letter addressed to Peter.
@@drakkenmensch Yeah but one of Nick Spencer's last Spider-Man issues actually retconned those events. Turns out the twins were clones- Harry orchestrated the plan before his death and used subliminal hypnotherapy and mind-altering gas to make Norman think he was the dad. And then Mephisto used versions of the clones to create his Kindred puppets.
@@benwasserman8223 that sounds too convoluted to be believable.
@@JaelinBezel So a typical storyline for a comic book?
Dominoed Daredoll would be a fantastic name for a riot grrrl band.
It was used in the show along with Barbara's reversable outfit. Except the purse belt. I don't remember that in the show.
@@ShadowWingTronix I love both. And seriously want a band to use that name now. It just sounds cool in the "punk girls appropriating old stuff" way.
@@PosthumanHeresy I think it's a good name too. But then again Linkara and I disagree on "Action Ace" for Superman so judge my judgement as you will.
@@ShadowWingTronix Admittedly I have an issue with that one, but more because my first thought is "Superman doesn't fuck?"
Weird thing is, it's Robin who wears the domino mask.
Let's be honest - as much as everybody makes fun of Killer Moth and his Silver Age costume, we all love it. It's goofy, sure, but in the best way possible and way better than the needlessly grim and cynical "Charaxes" redesign he got in Underworld Unleashed. I think we can all agree that other than later artists smartly updating the cape into wings, Infantino nailed it with this design and its always fun seeing KM pop up in this outfit.
I’ve always loved Killer Moth, ever since I played LEGO Batman The Video game in 2013
This was really good and worth the wait...but WOW this storyline is cursed to hell considering how long it's taking to finish (None of which is your fault). Over 4 years.
Maybe it's the alliteration, maybe it's the technical term being used, maybe it's because it's charmingly over-verbose, but "lethal lepidopteran" is a description that just makes me happy.
The Caged Demonwolf sneers at such feeble efforts. True alliteration requires at least a triple play to even qualify as worthy of notice. Go with "the larcenous lawbreaker in his lepidopteran livery launched into a lethal lunge" and you've got something going on. :)
“Okay, that’s enough fourth wall breaking. Back to work” may be my newest favorite line
22:55 I think 'recruiting' or capturing other combatants is against Contest of Champions Protocol
I unironically love Killer Moth and his doofy-ass outfit. :)
Also, amazing review. I laughed so hard, so often. 10/10. :D
5:19 She's such an incredible new luminary that someday they're going to stick her upper torso into the Batsignal.
5:42 Her merchandising deal made sure nobody would see any merch of hers until an entire decade afterwards.
(While Batman and Robin had been around for 25 years, thus making it "difficult" for Adam West and Burt Ward
to claim that something was advertising the actual TV show versions of them, Yvonne Craig had it so ANY merch
featuring Batgirl for an entire decade afterward would gain her a small percent of profit.................................
and so almost NO ONE BOTHERED to make any Batgirl merch for about an entire decade!!!!!)
10:11 Insert Don Adams here.
Now, if only we can make Dr. Linksano President of Blizzard long enough to have him apologize for all their bullfuckery.
Also, wee wee wee.
No, we need him at Ubisoft, so that not only we get an apology but also a new Rayman game.
@@Lightspeeds Does anyone know if he speaks French or has time to gain a Candian visa?
Coming back here in February 2022, after hearing about Blizzard/Activison's sexual misconduct....I think Ubisoft is the best step up, after all.
ROBIN: "You don't need a vehicle, Beast Boy. You can fly."
BEAST BOY: "But even Batgirl got a moped! And that was in her debut!"
That ending was like something out of a Steven Moffat episode of _Doctor Who._ In a good way.
Killer Moth.... that's the villain for Barbara Gordon's debut, a villain who is best known as a joke now or days
Barbara is legit one of my all-time favorite superheroes.
Also, why are all of the most awesome female characters that I had crushes on as a child redheads? I mean, you've got April O'Neil, Barbara Gordon, Mary Jane Watson, Misty (I was literally 10, give me a break), Sora Takenouchi (again, I was 10), Jean Grey, Jessica Rabbit, Daphne Blake...
Sora Takenouchi is red headed when she’s eleven, but she’s a brunette when she gets older.
@@JaelinBezel probably dyed or just the lighting, since she goes back to being a redhead in the (retconned out of existence) 02 epilogue and Last Evolution Kizuna. Just went and double-checked, to be sure.
Back when Killer Moth was a threat. Ancient history now.
I see they really went with the Hot Goth Librarian for the initial character profile of Barbra Gordon. Demure glasses? Check. Bunned hair? Check. Synched waistline? Check. Black everything clothing choices with a single color offset (in this case a tight, knee length skirt)? Check and phew-boy CHECK.
Methinks the creators were less creative and allowing some repressed feelings come to the surface.
Their work would have made Adam Warren proud.
11:48 Killer Moth looks like Hedonism Bot with that face.
You know it's weird but Dr. Linksano sounds a lot different when he's explaining something and it almost gives off a Dr. Who vibe to me. Is Linksano a Time Lord?
He wore a bow tie as President, so probably
Love the new Secret Origins Month logo animation.
My first exposure to Killmoth was the Teen Titans animated series, so seeing him in his comic form always makes me do a double take.
Teen Titans Killer Moth is best Killer Moth.
Apparently, Batgirl's first try at a disguised voice is Sparkington. :P