@@adampopeens2728 To be fair a lot of names for certain techniques aren't named to be descriptive, even in classic Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Wouldn't it make more sense just to call the Kimura/Americana a upwords or downwards shoulder lock, if descriptive names were the standard? I understand and can agree with criticizing certain schools and their system on their practicality in MMA or self defense. But names seems a bit silly. And at the end of the day, if I had to pick between my girlfriend knowing 10th planet jiu-jitsu, or no jiu-jitsu, I'd at least want her to have something if she had to defend herself.
Depends what you want ig😂 I get bjj news from Jiu Jitsu times, advice from chew Jitsu, technique from Eli Knight, Gordon Ryan, Keenan Cornelius, Bernardo, etc. I like the Gracie breakdowns for UFC fights and street fight breakdowns, and there are some mostly comedy channels like Arizona silverback or onyx mma(not sure on spelling), and some that mostly just upload matches(like me ;) and Jedi Jiu Jitsu or whatever his channel is actually called
1) A single leg is entangled 2) The legs do form an X (split by the aforementioned single leg) 3) That definition of guard is problematic and even if it weren't, I've literally never seen it from top at any level It's over, Johnny
As an awful grappler, I use the following definition of guard- a position where you are on the bottom but control the space between the knee and elbow on at least one side, and are facing toward your opponent. That makes SLX a guard- there is one foot that could block him touching his elbow to his knee. Its a half guard, as its only one side, and its an open guard, as the legs dont bind to another limb. I find this definition basically nails down every guard.
I observed the same things. Danaher seems to think his personal definitions are superior and should be followed by others because existing terminologies are flawed under certain narrow interpretations, when in fact his own terms have similar problems. It doesn’t mean his ideas are wrong per se, but the others are not wrong either. It’s like the story of blind men and the elephant; the narrow minded only see things from their own limited perspectives and fail to recognize the validity of opposing views. He is undoubtedly a knowledgeable coach, but some of his words expose his biases and incomplete mental frameworks, which can lead to the downfall of his followers when faced with even more complete students of the art.
Marcelo would disagree.... He won many titles using it. Even to this day he is using it and very successful. It depends on competency of the person using the guard.
you can enter it from top position i guess. we wouldnt call an armbar a guard even if you lose top position, or the back guard even though your underneath and on your back
@@jongarcia357 well, to be honest, cos i speak japanese, ashi garami don't really mean single leg X, its just a catch all term for "Leg Entanglements" so pretty much everything that involves legs entangling together is ashi garami. John gave it new meaning haha
@@JustinColletti well, irimi means "to enter" in japanese so Entering Ashi Garami can mean any form of leg entanglement. Irimi nage or Enter Throw in aikido is also performed from the outside rather than inside. So irimi do not suggest necessarily an inside technique either.
@@limpehsmid40sbjjjourney25 Yes, I do know the literal translation. But it does work with the literal translation as it is generally only the first step entry to a series of other leg locks and leg entanglements. In practice, it’s an entry position that is not good for long term control by itself, but leads to other more controlling positions including the Achilles/ankle lock, the cross ashi/saddle the outside ashi/50-50, x guard and so on. So in a reasonably sophisticated system, it’s not meant to be a position one holds for long periods, but rather one that you use to immediately sweep, attack, or transition into a more controlling form of ashi garami. Why John says “irimi ashi” but says “outside ashi” and “cross ashi” is a good question. Knowing his style, he probably has some reason for it. But maybe he doesn’t. It does seem a little inconsistent. I have heard others refer to it as a “straight ashi” which feels more consistent to me. The one thing with his nomenclature that annoys me a little bit is that he calls someone laying on their side a “dorsal” position, because their elbow pointing up into the air looks like the dorsal fin of a shark. But “dorsal” means “back” so it just seems kinda dumb to me. I think he should revisit that one. I’m fine with calling it either single leg x or ashi garami, or straight ashi, or just “ashi”. In practice, I will usually refer to that position as “ashi”, and the other two common positions as “outside ashi” and “cross ashi” as it really helps tie together how interrelated all three positions are. But if it was easier to say “cross leg entanglement” instead of cross ashi, I’d probably say that instead. I guess you could say “cross legs”, but that could have so many different meanings in English, and when you say “cross ashi” everybody could know what you are talking about. So I say that instead. Hope that makes sense!
Its attacking a single leg Guard Players legs clearly form an X Its putting your legs between you and your opponent while connected so its a Guard Come at me John.
You do control both legs in a proper single leg X though. Your inside leg should be on the hamstring of the other leg, right beneath the glute. That’s the point John is making at the beginning. You are also not going to see an X pattern if you were doing it in that proper way. If you were doing it badly, like is being demonstrated here, it’s pretty hard to see the X too, but I guess I kind of almost get it?
@@JustinColletti Marcelo's method is 100% on the primary leg. Danaher's method is like 80/20 on the primary/secondary. Marcelo's method came first. Danaher's method is a moderate improvement.
@@FreekFreeksma yeah there is. If you were standing just to the left of the pair, from the camera's perspective, the two shins would appear to form an x. It's just that one line of the ex is on top of the leg and one is below it.
What's he talking about? "single leg" as in you control a single leg and not both legs like in normal x-guard; "X" if you look at your legs from a certain angle they resemble making an x even though they are not touching (even in regular x guard they are not crossing and forming an x); "guard" jiu jitsu has evolved so much that the guard designation encompases a whole variety of defensive positions (eg. half guard, closed guard, open guard, mantis guard, DLR guard etc) and if you call x-guard a guard, why not call this a guard also? And just because you can use the position from top and bottom, that shouldn't negate it as a guard once on the bottom. Lastly, I imagine Marcelo came up with it and he named it, so that is what it is called.
You do control both legs in a proper single leg X though. Your inside leg should be on the hamstring of the other leg, right beneath the glute. That’s the point John is making at the beginning. Marcelo Garcia is awesome. But he did not invent the position. It has a formal name in Japanese-“irimi ashi garami”-because its use predates him by many generations. That said, I’m fine with calling it single leg X. I’m also fine with calling it ashi garami.
@@JustinColletti The way I was taught you control the near leg. The inside foot is underneath the thigh/butt cheek of their front leg (check any Marcelo video and you will see that) while your arm is controlling their foot. Hence the name Single Leg X-Guard or single leg control x-guard. I am not debating the history of martial art. I am simply saying that in BJJ world Marcelo "invented" or popularized it if you wish. One can even argue that Marcelo never saw the Japanese version of the move, but rather came up with it on his own due to the rules in his competition (i.e. because leg reap was prohibited) and due to its close proximity to original x-guard it makes sense to call it an x-guard on singular leg. I personally see why it is called a single leg x guard, but even if it was given another name, I wouldn't give a shit since it is a useful move. I mean Eddie's names are quite colorful and ridiculous which makes it all that much more fun as long as you understand why they are named that way.
@@igipop14 Yeah, you definitely can do it that way. But the problem is that when both of your feet are on the same leg, the person can back step out of your sweep attempts. This doesn’t matter that much to Marcelo, because he’s not usually using it as a sweep position by itself. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he’s usually using it as an entry that gets into the full X guard, which is where he does his sweeps from much more often, as that leads to the back and being on top more readily if your interest is in sweeping. But if you did really want to sweep from the single/ashi position, you would probably want your inside foot on the opposite leg so they can’t back step out of your sweep attempts. This way, you can land in that position, and move on to your other leg entanglements from where you can attack leg locks. If Marcelo was more interested in leg locks, he probably would have developed a similar style and come to similar conclusions. But since his preference is to get on top or on the back, by transferring to X guard for sweeps, it makes a lot more sense. And you make an interesting point about it keeping you further from being called for “reaping” as well. I’ll have to think about that. So if you’re going to be in that position for just a moment, and don’t really care about sweeping from it so much, then yes, you can definitely have both feet on one leg. It’s just not as effective if you want to sweep from that position, and go into other leg entanglements. I don’t really care what people call it either. I guess that calling it “single leg X“ makes sense if you consider it as being part of a system with X guard. But calling it “ashi garami” or “irimi ashi garami” makes more sense if you consider it part of a system with all of the other leg entanglements, leading into leg locks as well as sweeps. I hope that makes sense!
@@JustinColletti Bro, it was never called Irimi Ashi Garami. John Danaher took a liberty borrowing from Aikido terminology. No one called it that before his Enter the System Leglocks Instructional dropped on BJJ Fanatics. The 'Ashi-Garami' position in Judo is what most today would call a 'Knee-Reap' and Danaher would call 'Inside-Ashi' -- another pseudo-Japanese term. Marcelo did not invent the position but a whole generation of grapplers built their game by emulating him. John is one of them. That said, the way Danaher and his athletes do the "Single-Leg-X" or "Irimi Ashi-Garami" is how you describe in the first paragraph, and a strict improvement over the way Marcelo did it 2 decades ago.
@@JustinColletti Yes you're right. Marcelo would engage Butt Scooting from Seated and attempt Arm-Drags. When the opponent would stand up and pull away, he'd wrap their ankle, pull himself into his SLX, explosively attempt to tripod, and if the opponent didn't go over he'd immediately switch to the full X-Guard and Sweep or Wrestle-Up from there. The way Danaher does it has better control, requires less explosiveness, and is more resilient. You already mentioned the check against Back-Stepping, but there is another big benefit. The way JD does it, the ankle and knee connect flush against each other, forming a broken circle. It's much more difficult for the Top Player to push either Leg away because they have to split that connection first. The Top Player usually wants to pry them apart with his elbow, but then has to switch to using his hand to push either leg out of position. That switch from Elbow to Hand gives the Bottom Player a moment to reconnect the Knee and Heel again. It's a straight improvement over the way Marcelo did it.
Of course he'd say that. Anything to undermine Marcelo Garcia who's game he stole. Instead, Johnny here calls it an Ashi Garami (leg entanglement) even though he doesn't "entangle" the leg. Actual Ashi Garami is called Z-Lock in BJJ. So shut up Johnny boy, you'll never accomplish what Marcelo has.
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I can’t wait until he digs into 10 Planet names. At least SLX came from Marcelo’s full X.
10th planet names sure are crazy, but they make sense, like the zombie in which you raise your hand like a zombie crawling out of a grave
@@leocoelho12 Yeah cuz Prison Guard and Homie control are totally descriptive
@@adampopeens2728 yes, they are, look into it
@@leocoelho12 yeah it’s cool, top stoner control I’m not sure how they came up with 😂
@@adampopeens2728 To be fair a lot of names for certain techniques aren't named to be descriptive, even in classic Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. Wouldn't it make more sense just to call the Kimura/Americana a upwords or downwards shoulder lock, if descriptive names were the standard? I understand and can agree with criticizing certain schools and their system on their practicality in MMA or self defense. But names seems a bit silly. And at the end of the day, if I had to pick between my girlfriend knowing 10th planet jiu-jitsu, or no jiu-jitsu, I'd at least want her to have something if she had to defend herself.
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This is the best BJJ channel on RUclips prove me wrong.
It only has 3k subs. There.
@@MinhaFamiliaAQBJJ your point?
chewjitsu, Gracie Jiu-jitsu Academy, GracieBreakdown
Depends what you want ig😂 I get bjj news from Jiu Jitsu times, advice from chew Jitsu, technique from Eli Knight, Gordon Ryan, Keenan Cornelius, Bernardo, etc. I like the Gracie breakdowns for UFC fights and street fight breakdowns, and there are some mostly comedy channels like Arizona silverback or onyx mma(not sure on spelling), and some that mostly just upload matches(like me ;) and Jedi Jiu Jitsu or whatever his channel is actually called
@@isaachoth6805 THAT IT ONLY HAS 3K SUBS! let me explain stupid....that means if it were the best it would have more subscribers
The legs do form an x but yeah
And the single refers to controlling that one leg
1) A single leg is entangled
2) The legs do form an X (split by the aforementioned single leg)
3) That definition of guard is problematic and even if it weren't, I've literally never seen it from top at any level
It's over, Johnny
As an awful grappler, I use the following definition of guard- a position where you are on the bottom but control the space between the knee and elbow on at least one side, and are facing toward your opponent.
That makes SLX a guard- there is one foot that could block him touching his elbow to his knee.
Its a half guard, as its only one side, and its an open guard, as the legs dont bind to another limb.
I find this definition basically nails down every guard.
I observed the same things. Danaher seems to think his personal definitions are superior and should be followed by others because existing terminologies are flawed under certain narrow interpretations, when in fact his own terms have similar problems. It doesn’t mean his ideas are wrong per se, but the others are not wrong either. It’s like the story of blind men and the elephant; the narrow minded only see things from their own limited perspectives and fail to recognize the validity of opposing views. He is undoubtedly a knowledgeable coach, but some of his words expose his biases and incomplete mental frameworks, which can lead to the downfall of his followers when faced with even more complete students of the art.
Marcelo would disagree.... He won many titles using it. Even to this day he is using it and very successful. It depends on competency of the person using the guard.
I learned it the Marcelo way and used it for 15 years, but JD's way of doing it does have several improvements
He's only criticizing the name, not the position. "Boa" or "Anaconda" guard would be better and more accurate.
Is it ashi garami?
How can you use it on top position.
you can enter it from top position i guess. we wouldnt call an armbar a guard even if you lose top position, or the back guard even though your underneath and on your back
@@theomen49 what :-/
@@Norfolkjiujitsu like... you sit for a leg lock while passing.
How about "standing Ashi"?
Its not single leg X because its Ashi Garami hahahhaa
That's what I thought. I was like " wtf is ashi garami then?" I was questioning everything lol
@@jongarcia357 well, to be honest, cos i speak japanese, ashi garami don't really mean single leg X, its just a catch all term for "Leg Entanglements" so pretty much everything that involves legs entangling together is ashi garami. John gave it new meaning haha
Yeah, that’s why it’s an Irimi Ashi Garami though, right?
@@JustinColletti well, irimi means "to enter" in japanese so Entering Ashi Garami can mean any form of leg entanglement. Irimi nage or Enter Throw in aikido is also performed from the outside rather than inside. So irimi do not suggest necessarily an inside technique either.
@@limpehsmid40sbjjjourney25 Yes, I do know the literal translation. But it does work with the literal translation as it is generally only the first step entry to a series of other leg locks and leg entanglements.
In practice, it’s an entry position that is not good for long term control by itself, but leads to other more controlling positions including the Achilles/ankle lock, the cross ashi/saddle the outside ashi/50-50, x guard and so on.
So in a reasonably sophisticated system, it’s not meant to be a position one holds for long periods, but rather one that you use to immediately sweep, attack, or transition into a more controlling form of ashi garami.
Why John says “irimi ashi” but says “outside ashi” and “cross ashi” is a good question. Knowing his style, he probably has some reason for it. But maybe he doesn’t. It does seem a little inconsistent. I have heard others refer to it as a “straight ashi” which feels more consistent to me.
The one thing with his nomenclature that annoys me a little bit is that he calls someone laying on their side a “dorsal” position, because their elbow pointing up into the air looks like the dorsal fin of a shark. But “dorsal” means “back” so it just seems kinda dumb to me. I think he should revisit that one.
I’m fine with calling it either single leg x or ashi garami, or straight ashi, or just “ashi”.
In practice, I will usually refer to that position as “ashi”, and the other two common positions as “outside ashi” and “cross ashi” as it really helps tie together how interrelated all three positions are.
But if it was easier to say “cross leg entanglement” instead of cross ashi, I’d probably say that instead.
I guess you could say “cross legs”, but that could have so many different meanings in English, and when you say “cross ashi” everybody could know what you are talking about. So I say that instead.
Hope that makes sense!
Finally the moment came, this is the point i quit BJJ (T___T)
So a single leg takedown makes no semantic sense because you aren’t using a single leg of yours
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He’s shitting on this guard but Gordon used it to sweep Vagner Rocha
Its attacking a single leg
Guard Players legs clearly form an X
Its putting your legs between you and your opponent while connected so its a Guard
Come at me John.
You do control both legs in a proper single leg X though. Your inside leg should be on the hamstring of the other leg, right beneath the glute. That’s the point John is making at the beginning.
You are also not going to see an X pattern if you were doing it in that proper way.
If you were doing it badly, like is being demonstrated here, it’s pretty hard to see the X too, but I guess I kind of almost get it?
@@JustinColletti Marcelo's method is 100% on the primary leg. Danaher's method is like 80/20 on the primary/secondary. Marcelo's method came first. Danaher's method is a moderate improvement.
It's called single leg because you're attacking a single leg...
But there’s no X
It’s a very...loose...X...
You’re also not on a single leg. If you’re doing it properly, your inside foot is on the hamstring of the other leg, right below the glute.
@@FreekFreeksma yeah there is. If you were standing just to the left of the pair, from the camera's perspective, the two shins would appear to form an x. It's just that one line of the ex is on top of the leg and one is below it.
What's he talking about? "single leg" as in you control a single leg and not both legs like in normal x-guard; "X" if you look at your legs from a certain angle they resemble making an x even though they are not touching (even in regular x guard they are not crossing and forming an x); "guard" jiu jitsu has evolved so much that the guard designation encompases a whole variety of defensive positions (eg. half guard, closed guard, open guard, mantis guard, DLR guard etc) and if you call x-guard a guard, why not call this a guard also? And just because you can use the position from top and bottom, that shouldn't negate it as a guard once on the bottom. Lastly, I imagine Marcelo came up with it and he named it, so that is what it is called.
You do control both legs in a proper single leg X though. Your inside leg should be on the hamstring of the other leg, right beneath the glute. That’s the point John is making at the beginning.
Marcelo Garcia is awesome. But he did not invent the position. It has a formal name in Japanese-“irimi ashi garami”-because its use predates him by many generations.
That said, I’m fine with calling it single leg X. I’m also fine with calling it ashi garami.
@@JustinColletti The way I was taught you control the near leg. The inside foot is underneath the thigh/butt cheek of their front leg (check any Marcelo video and you will see that) while your arm is controlling their foot. Hence the name Single Leg X-Guard or single leg control x-guard.
I am not debating the history of martial art. I am simply saying that in BJJ world Marcelo "invented" or popularized it if you wish. One can even argue that Marcelo never saw the Japanese version of the move, but rather came up with it on his own due to the rules in his competition (i.e. because leg reap was prohibited) and due to its close proximity to original x-guard it makes sense to call it an x-guard on singular leg. I personally see why it is called a single leg x guard, but even if it was given another name, I wouldn't give a shit since it is a useful move. I mean Eddie's names are quite colorful and ridiculous which makes it all that much more fun as long as you understand why they are named that way.
@@igipop14 Yeah, you definitely can do it that way. But the problem is that when both of your feet are on the same leg, the person can back step out of your sweep attempts.
This doesn’t matter that much to Marcelo, because he’s not usually using it as a sweep position by itself. Correct me if I’m wrong, but he’s usually using it as an entry that gets into the full X guard, which is where he does his sweeps from much more often, as that leads to the back and being on top more readily if your interest is in sweeping.
But if you did really want to sweep from the single/ashi position, you would probably want your inside foot on the opposite leg so they can’t back step out of your sweep attempts. This way, you can land in that position, and move on to your other leg entanglements from where you can attack leg locks.
If Marcelo was more interested in leg locks, he probably would have developed a similar style and come to similar conclusions. But since his preference is to get on top or on the back, by transferring to X guard for sweeps, it makes a lot more sense. And you make an interesting point about it keeping you further from being called for “reaping” as well. I’ll have to think about that.
So if you’re going to be in that position for just a moment, and don’t really care about sweeping from it so much, then yes, you can definitely have both feet on one leg. It’s just not as effective if you want to sweep from that position, and go into other leg entanglements.
I don’t really care what people call it either. I guess that calling it “single leg X“ makes sense if you consider it as being part of a system with X guard.
But calling it “ashi garami” or “irimi ashi garami” makes more sense if you consider it part of a system with all of the other leg entanglements, leading into leg locks as well as sweeps.
I hope that makes sense!
@@JustinColletti Bro, it was never called Irimi Ashi Garami. John Danaher took a liberty borrowing from Aikido terminology. No one called it that before his Enter the System Leglocks Instructional dropped on BJJ Fanatics.
The 'Ashi-Garami' position in Judo is what most today would call a 'Knee-Reap' and Danaher would call 'Inside-Ashi' -- another pseudo-Japanese term.
Marcelo did not invent the position but a whole generation of grapplers built their game by emulating him. John is one of them. That said, the way Danaher and his athletes do the "Single-Leg-X" or "Irimi Ashi-Garami" is how you describe in the first paragraph, and a strict improvement over the way Marcelo did it 2 decades ago.
@@JustinColletti Yes you're right. Marcelo would engage Butt Scooting from Seated and attempt Arm-Drags. When the opponent would stand up and pull away, he'd wrap their ankle, pull himself into his SLX, explosively attempt to tripod, and if the opponent didn't go over he'd immediately switch to the full X-Guard and Sweep or Wrestle-Up from there.
The way Danaher does it has better control, requires less explosiveness, and is more resilient. You already mentioned the check against Back-Stepping, but there is another big benefit.
The way JD does it, the ankle and knee connect flush against each other, forming a broken circle. It's much more difficult for the Top Player to push either Leg away because they have to split that connection first. The Top Player usually wants to pry them apart with his elbow, but then has to switch to using his hand to push either leg out of position. That switch from Elbow to Hand gives the Bottom Player a moment to reconnect the Knee and Heel again.
It's a straight improvement over the way Marcelo did it.
Well the guy doesn't even have the X locked up properly. When it's closed off it's an extremely effective position.
That's righ cornbread, tell John he doesn't know shit about the game
@Cornbreadddd against who
Of course he'd say that. Anything to undermine Marcelo Garcia who's game he stole. Instead, Johnny here calls it an Ashi Garami (leg entanglement) even though he doesn't "entangle" the leg. Actual Ashi Garami is called Z-Lock in BJJ. So shut up Johnny boy, you'll never accomplish what Marcelo has.
ashi garami is in japanese, its the joint lock in judo that attacks the legs. leg entanglement is a literal translation of the kanji characters.
Lol wtf 😂
Someone is mad that they spent so much time trying to learn the single X
What's BJJ? I think you meant American jiu jitsu
There's more salt in this comment than the whole Pacific Ocean.