Hi! Congratulation for 10k subscribers! thanks to you, I got the Jean Martinon box. and I am amazed by the quality of Jacques Ibert's music. In particular Escales. I'm curious to know more. i'm realy happy when you direct us to these more obscure works. Thanks for that!
Hearty Congratulations on reaching the BIG 10K. Very impressive and well-deserved. I'm currently re-reading Prokofiev's amazing Diaries, and have specially noted his frequent comments on Markevitch..who suddenly appeared to more-or-less take the place of Leonid Massine (the resemblance between the two was uncanny), who more-or-less took the place of Nijinsky as Serge Diaghilev's favorite young colleague...all of this in Prokofiev's typically witty, entertaining and vividly perceptive manner. NOTE: now that Scribendum has given their permission to play excerpts, please consider using the brief Polka from the Tcherepnin "TATI" montage as a "Miniature Masterpiece". Since you've mentioned it a couple of times, I think your TEN-K subscribers would really enjoy it. Again, Bravo. LR
Dave, thank you for your comments on the quality of the transfers in the Scribendum box. Years ago I purchased 2-cd Scribendum sets of Silvestri and Barbirolli, and the sound was so disappointingly treble-filtered and opaque (like an Angel Lp) that I've never since dared try anything on that label, no matter how tempting the repertoire. Ditto for the Membran/Documents group of labels, the folks who issued that 10-cd Markevitch box: I was burned by their 3-cd Koussevitzky set (fabulous repertoire-choices ruined by insanely treble-boosted transfers), and have hesitated to buy anything else on their labels. Which is why I'm so grateful, Dave, for your brief comments about transfer-quality, when reviewing reissues of historic material on secondary labels: you know what you're talking about, so if you say the sound on a Scribendum set is "identical" to an Eloquence set....well, that's good enough for me! And, Dave, even though you've expressed your contempt for those of us who chase after incremental improvements in historic recordings....well, some of us still care. So please, keep including comments on the transfers, including whether a re-issue seems to have been remastered.
"Contempt" is too strong a word. I just find the whole process too subjective and the differences often too marginal to bother about. Unless of course they aren't.
I think Markevitch's Concert Hall / Monte Carlo Orchestra recording of the 1812 Overture is the only recording of this piece by a French Orchestra (if you consider Monaco actually part of France). The music celebrates a French military defeat. Does anyone know of another French recording of the 1812 Overture? (Haydn's Lord Nelson Mass and Beethoven's Wellington's Victory also celebrate French defeats.)
Dear Sir, I do not know any French orchestra record of 1812 alas but I should thank you alongside Mr Hurwitz for having pointed out these records, the "Biches" sounding tempting too. I do not now how this 1812 circumstance and fun music could annoy my cousins or could be felt as instrumental. Taken literally it not only flatters patriotism but heroism on both parts I suppose. Not Prokofiev depicting the Khan tribes or the holy Teutons. But I am not French nor educated in the French way. French nationalism is enduring (why not? I regret the orchestral version - perhaps it had survived in Strasbourg a little but now I must go Suisse Romande or Monte Carlo and even...). Then, I do not know if the latter is relevant to this issue of 'appparent 1812 boycott', but it makes me indirectly think of Méhul's "Chant du départ " a glorious French revolutionary hymn some pretend had been partly written by Robespierre (though credited to Chénier) : well my mother told me that in her youth, the nun who was in charge of the classroom made them all learn this by wrote ... Surely 'Chant du départ' does not harm French pride, but there could have been bloody associations for the church- so there should be room for compromise in the matter, though I do not speak from a French perspective (I am not French). Apologies for the length and thank you again.
All I could ever find was the 1962 Columbia Special Products 7" 33 1/3 vinyl for the Quaker Oats Company, "Recorded in Paris... by The Paris Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Pierre Chaillet". It was released in conjunction with the television commercial for Quaker Puffed Rice cereal. I suspect conductor and orchestra are pseudonyms; but since you asked...
Thanks for the great review! One thing I think you underestimate: at least here in Europe, the Scribendum box is considerably cheaper than buying the Philips and DG boxes (based on Amazon Germany prices, app. 70 Euros versus over 200 Euros). I have the Scribendum box and it allows one to acquire some of the major Markevitch recordings in excellent sound and at a fraction of the cost of buying the DG and Philips boxes.
Scribendum website says the 3 disc Concert Hall set is out of print. Online vendors like Amazon have copies at roughly twice the price of this 21 disc set.
With all of these Markevitch boxes being issued, I've yet to see his recording of Nielsen's Inextinguishable with the Royal Danish Orchestra re-appear. It was on the budget Turnabout label back in the LP era; sound was nothing to boast about. Not sure how it would sound on CD with the latest, greatest remastering, but I do recall that the interpretation was first rate (in my opinion, of course).
A fitting conclusion to the Fall Markevitch Festival chez Hurwitz. This set is the one I've been most interested in, largely because I already have a fair representation of Markevitch/DG and Phillips in my collection, and have been looking for a supplement that won't duplicate too much. This Scribendum set is just the ticket. So far I have been very pleased with Scribendum's anthologies. The two massive String Quartet collections--the Barylli and the Vienna Konzerthaus Quartets, respectively--are a tremendous boon for all chamber music lovers. Scribendum is the proverbian candy shop for the inveterate collector.
Hi David, greetings again from England! Thank you so much for your fantastic channel...I am a daily visitor and have been educated, enlightened and entertained continually by your reviews!!! Please would you have a look at the symphonies of William Alwyn and talk about them... They have been a recent discovery for me and I think they should have a wider audience as I think they contain some very fine music. I have trawled through your reviews and unless they are hiding away in some dark corner I can't find any of his music.... Yours, in grateful anticipation, Phillip
@@DavesClassicalGuide That's great...I will have a listen! Naxos have a very fine recording of 1 and 3 together and Lloyd Jones has done lots more on that label happily waving the Alwyn flag😁👍
The new Warner Ballet Russes box uses Prêtre’s Les Biches, but they licensed Auric, Sauget and Milhaud from Guilde International du Disques for it. While the 21 CD box set is about 19 discs worth of duplicates for me, the 3 CD box is either unavailable or selling used for more than this one. Thanks to you.
Dear David, In the Scribendum SC832 Igor Markevitch box, did you notice some sound interruptions (drops out) in some CDs? : CD 1 (Beethoven) on track 1 (05:55 and 08:40) and track 3 (01:24); CD 9: track 1 (Cherubini’s Requiem) at 1:23 and 2:32; and CD 11: track 8 (Haydn’s Symphony 104) between 2:24 and 2:29 … Is there still a quality control before the marketing of the products? ... Best Michel
Here in Spain we had the fortune to had Markevitch as the conductor of the Spanish Radio symphony from the late 1960s to 1983. His concert hall recordings in Madrid are really amazing.
Yes, they are. Someone on RUclips has posted the video of his live Beethoven 7th, and...wow! A firey performance with a surprisingly rhapsodic slow movement, and wonderfully alert orchestral playing. I wish this were available on dvd.
@@neumiofm Then someone should license these videos and reissue them on blu-ray or DVD. Is Vai still issuing new material? This is right up their alley!
No, I checked and it was gone before the video ran. I'm glad to know that I'm not responsible. I suspect that since it has been subsumed into the big box, it won't be back anytime soon.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Before moving to the sylvan wilds of North Syracuse, I lived just a few blocks from Academy records in Manhattan. Oh, how I miss it....
Hi! Congratulation for 10k subscribers! thanks to you, I got the Jean Martinon box. and I am amazed by the quality of Jacques Ibert's music. In particular Escales. I'm curious to know more. i'm realy happy when you direct us to these more obscure works. Thanks for that!
Hearty Congratulations on reaching the BIG 10K. Very impressive and well-deserved. I'm currently re-reading Prokofiev's amazing Diaries, and have specially noted his frequent comments on Markevitch..who suddenly appeared to more-or-less take the place of Leonid Massine (the resemblance between the two was uncanny), who more-or-less took the place of Nijinsky as Serge Diaghilev's favorite young colleague...all of this in Prokofiev's typically witty, entertaining and vividly perceptive manner. NOTE: now that Scribendum has given their permission to play excerpts, please consider using the brief Polka from the Tcherepnin "TATI" montage as a "Miniature Masterpiece". Since you've mentioned it a couple of times, I think your TEN-K subscribers would really enjoy it. Again, Bravo. LR
Dave, thank you for your comments on the quality of the transfers in the Scribendum box. Years ago I purchased 2-cd Scribendum sets of Silvestri and Barbirolli, and the sound was so disappointingly treble-filtered and opaque (like an Angel Lp) that I've never since dared try anything on that label, no matter how tempting the repertoire. Ditto for the Membran/Documents group of labels, the folks who issued that 10-cd Markevitch box: I was burned by their 3-cd Koussevitzky set (fabulous repertoire-choices ruined by insanely treble-boosted transfers), and have hesitated to buy anything else on their labels.
Which is why I'm so grateful, Dave, for your brief comments about transfer-quality, when reviewing reissues of historic material on secondary labels: you know what you're talking about, so if you say the sound on a Scribendum set is "identical" to an Eloquence set....well, that's good enough for me!
And, Dave, even though you've expressed your contempt for those of us who chase after incremental improvements in historic recordings....well, some of us still care. So please, keep including comments on the transfers, including whether a re-issue seems to have been remastered.
"Contempt" is too strong a word. I just find the whole process too subjective and the differences often too marginal to bother about. Unless of course they aren't.
I think Markevitch's Concert Hall / Monte Carlo Orchestra recording of the 1812 Overture is the only recording of this piece by a French Orchestra (if you consider Monaco actually part of France). The music celebrates a French military defeat. Does anyone know of another French recording of the 1812 Overture?
(Haydn's Lord Nelson Mass and Beethoven's Wellington's Victory also celebrate French defeats.)
Dear Sir, I do not know any French orchestra record of 1812 alas but I should thank you alongside Mr Hurwitz for having pointed out these records, the "Biches" sounding tempting too. I do not now how this 1812 circumstance and fun music could annoy my cousins or could be felt as instrumental. Taken literally it not only flatters patriotism but heroism on both parts I suppose. Not Prokofiev depicting the Khan tribes or the holy Teutons. But I am not French nor educated in the French way. French nationalism is enduring (why not? I regret the orchestral version - perhaps it had survived in Strasbourg a little but now I must go Suisse Romande or Monte Carlo and even...). Then, I do not know if the latter is relevant to this issue of 'appparent 1812 boycott', but it makes me indirectly think of Méhul's "Chant du départ " a glorious French revolutionary hymn some pretend had been partly written by Robespierre (though credited to Chénier) : well my mother told me that in her youth, the nun who was in charge of the classroom made them all learn this by wrote ... Surely 'Chant du départ' does not harm French pride, but there could have been bloody associations for the church- so there should be room for compromise in the matter, though I do not speak from a French perspective (I am not French). Apologies for the length and thank you again.
@John Fowler Well what do you know.....
All I could ever find was the 1962 Columbia Special Products 7" 33 1/3 vinyl for the Quaker Oats Company, "Recorded in Paris... by The Paris Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Pierre Chaillet". It was released in conjunction with the television commercial for Quaker Puffed Rice cereal. I suspect conductor and orchestra are pseudonyms; but since you asked...
@@geraldmartin7703 wow
Thanks for the great review! One thing I think you underestimate: at least here in Europe, the Scribendum box is considerably cheaper than buying the Philips and DG boxes (based on Amazon Germany prices, app. 70 Euros versus over 200 Euros). I have the Scribendum box and it allows one to acquire some of the major Markevitch recordings in excellent sound and at a fraction of the cost of buying the DG and Philips boxes.
Scribendum website says the 3 disc Concert Hall set is out of print. Online vendors like Amazon have copies at roughly twice the price of this 21 disc set.
With all of these Markevitch boxes being issued, I've yet to see his recording of Nielsen's Inextinguishable with the Royal Danish Orchestra re-appear. It was on the budget Turnabout label back in the LP era; sound was nothing to boast about. Not sure how it would sound on CD with the latest, greatest remastering, but I do recall that the interpretation was first rate (in my opinion, of course).
Doremi have issued it on their Markevitch Legendary Treasures volume 1 disc.
A fitting conclusion to the Fall Markevitch Festival chez Hurwitz. This set is the one I've been most interested in, largely because I already have a fair representation of Markevitch/DG and Phillips in my collection, and have been looking for a supplement that won't duplicate too much. This Scribendum set is just the ticket. So far I have been very pleased with Scribendum's anthologies. The two massive String Quartet collections--the Barylli and the Vienna Konzerthaus Quartets, respectively--are a tremendous boon for all chamber music lovers. Scribendum is the proverbian candy shop for the inveterate collector.
Hi David, greetings again from England! Thank you so much for your fantastic channel...I am a daily visitor and have been educated, enlightened and entertained continually by your reviews!!! Please would you have a look at the symphonies of William Alwyn and talk about them... They have been a recent discovery for me and I think they should have a wider audience as I think they contain some very fine music. I have trawled through your reviews and unless they are hiding away in some dark corner I can't find any of his music.... Yours, in grateful anticipation, Phillip
I just talked about his Fifth (with a sound sample) in my discussion of one-movement symphonies after Sibelius' 7th
@@DavesClassicalGuide That's great...I will have a listen! Naxos have a very fine recording of 1 and 3 together and Lloyd Jones has done lots more on that label happily waving the Alwyn flag😁👍
The new Warner Ballet Russes box uses Prêtre’s Les Biches, but they licensed Auric, Sauget and Milhaud from Guilde International du Disques for it.
While the 21 CD box set is about 19 discs worth of duplicates for me, the 3 CD box is either unavailable or selling used for more than this one. Thanks to you.
Yep.
Dear David,
In the Scribendum SC832 Igor Markevitch box, did you notice some sound interruptions (drops out) in some CDs? :
CD 1 (Beethoven) on track 1 (05:55 and 08:40) and track 3 (01:24);
CD 9: track 1 (Cherubini’s Requiem) at 1:23 and 2:32;
and
CD 11: track 8 (Haydn’s Symphony 104) between 2:24 and 2:29 …
Is there still a quality control before the marketing of the products? ...
Best
Michel
No, especially if they are taken from LPs.
Here in Spain we had the fortune to had Markevitch as the conductor of the Spanish Radio symphony from the late 1960s to 1983. His concert hall recordings in Madrid are really amazing.
Yes, they are. Someone on RUclips has posted the video of his live Beethoven 7th, and...wow! A firey performance with a surprisingly rhapsodic slow movement, and wonderfully alert orchestral playing. I wish this were available on dvd.
@@richardfrankel6102 agree! Unfortunately, Markevitch do not raise in Spain the interest he deserves.
He didn't raise the interest he deserved anywhere. He was too interested in music.
@@neumiofm Then someone should license these videos and reissue them on blu-ray or DVD. Is Vai still issuing new material? This is right up their alley!
@@richardfrankel6102 yeah!
Thanks, David, the Concert Hall Recordings box is sold out now at Scribendum, alas. It's "The Hurwitz Effect".
No, I checked and it was gone before the video ran. I'm glad to know that I'm not responsible. I suspect that since it has been subsumed into the big box, it won't be back anytime soon.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Before moving to the sylvan wilds of North Syracuse, I lived just a few blocks from Academy records in Manhattan. Oh, how I miss it....
Hi David. Do you know if Markevitch recorded Dvorak's New World Symphony?
Not that I'm aware of.
@@DavesClassicalGuide Thanks David. Such a pity. I'm sure it would have been a terrific New World
A more knowledgeable friend than I gives Desormière as first choice in Les Biches - he owns also the Markevitch, whom he reveres.