Michael takes charge as the New head of the family
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I love how Tom waited for the room to clear before he questioned the decision.. he was the best counciliere… your out Tom
Consigliere
I admired it, didn't love it. Amore'
He was pretty lousy as Consigliere. When he says he's not a war time Consigliere, he means it specifically cause he didn't see that barzini was the one pulling the strings.
@@Tallahassee21 More like it was due to how Tom advised peace with an enemy who would have respected it.
Tom was not in fact the best consigliere. The real purpose of the meeting was to force either Clemenza or Tessio into Barzini’s embrace.
Tom Hagen felt like he got kicked in the stomach but Michael is doing it to keep him clean for other things.
Yep, for legitimacy
Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
Tom: “Michael, why am I out?”
Michael: “ In this country, first you get the money, then you get the power, when you get the woman.”
People saying he lacked charme and peoples skills
imo misunderstand the scene. This is all carefully constructed by Vito to keep the inage of a weakening family to the outside and the capos to weed out the traitor in the making.
This meeting is not to reasdure but make the capos doubt Michael to see if they were loyal even being weaker.
It worked and later Michael also showed his peoples skills with Rocco etc.
Thanks to this plan the family then was strong again well besides Fredo.
Yes, I said this in another comment but somehow my reply was removed. People need to pay attention to the film
Incredible insight. Thanks
Mike was open and forgiving to those he could trust. His people skills show with Neri as well
@@Rory99M Incredible. I just love the high level insight and analysis.
You're out Tom. Cold 🥶
What I find interesting about that scene is that it shows Michael combining the best of Tom's intelligence with Santino's decisiveness. Tom was always a pretty smart and thoughtful person, but his cautious nature worked against him in high pressure situations like a mafia war. Santino, on the other hand, was almost fearless in his decisiveness, but lacked the calculating intellect to be patient -- which resulted in him making suboptimal decisions. I think Michael noticed Tom and Santino's weaknesses and he recognized that there were some grounds for Santino's frustration with Tom's aversion to conflict (for example, Santino once shouted that if he had a true wartime counciliere, he "wouldn't be in this mess." That's cold too, but I think there is some truth to that) -- even though Santino was wrong in most other respects. So Michael shrewdly leaves out Tom for the time being with a view to finding a place for him later on, while employing Veto Corleone (who knows how to handle mafia conflicts better than most people) as the wartime counciliere.
@@jonathanruano4973you said exactly what I was thinking. You just said so elegantly. Great observation 👍
I think that it was just a start of MIcheal trying to get the family legitamate. But, he tells Tom that when he leaves in Godfather 2, he wants Tom to take over the family for awhile. Everything that Mike did to get the Corleones out of the business...but as he says in the III, "everytime I want out, they pull me back in."
Keep Tom innocent 😢
That’s not why Tom was out. He was not a war time counselor like Sunny said earlier in the movie.
Yea that’s true but in all reality he shielded Tom made him safety valve he was the only one he could trust with his life and family
@@cerronebrown990 Yes and no. He needs Tom to be clean for the bigger picture, as they plan to take the family legitimate. Yes, Tom is out from the crimal side, he's not built for it but Vito and Michael's ultimate goal is to transition the family from a criminal enterprise into a legitimate business. In this regard, they are strategically positioning their best asset to pave the way in Nevada.
Best movie in history
indeed!
i acquired the nickname "turk" from it!
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@jamessollazzo4860 Interestingly, there is a community of Italo/Turk ancestry in Turkey, descended from Genoese traders/merchants during the Ottoman Empire. The high fashion brand store VAKKO is Italo/Turk, for example.
Tessios left hand shake meaning of dislike
@jazzypenguin4401 ... Great catch and attention to detail! I love this movie and that had never dawned on me. Well done Jazzy!
Exactly, and that's why Tessio was kissing Barzini's ass and betrayed Michael
Historically, shaking with the left hand is a sign of trust. Among warriors it meant you dropped your shield to shake hands.
i like the way Neary walks the room hands in front, even though its Vitos inner circle he looks ready to protect Michael at the drop of a hat
Need to rewatch.
The world is evil. You have to be prepared.
Like the boy scouts
World is evil Mike is the dev!l😂
@@hgsgknnnmmlolb You wanna live with a brother like Freddo?! Your call.
Michael: “You’re out Tom.”
Period, end of story
Sonny was a bad don… rip
Al Pacino was so very handsome what a gorgeous Italian man❤❤❤❤ always love u al
You mean even with the hunchback you’re a groupie!!
Tom felt hurt. I felt bad, too. The Don and Mike were playing Chess and not Checkers. What a GREAT, GREAT movie.
A masterpiece
indeed
You see Tom all our people are business people their loyalty lies on that! Gee Mike I been with the Family since childhood thanks for explaining this to me couldn’t figure on my own! I know I’m not a wartime 😢consigliere!!
Michael shows how bad he is with people. None of his father's charm. None of his ability to reassure his capos.
He has his own way of running the business.
I always viewed the transition from Vito to Michael as the transition from family to business
He was not the man his father was
@@tofu8688 That's true. Michael was certainly all business. But if you read the sequels of the godfather, you lose all empathy for Michael. Vito inspired loyalty because his capos loved him. Michael inspired loyalty because everyone feared him.
True. But Michael is doing what Vito wants. Vito was just as ruthless as Michael. If they feared Michael, then they had reason to fear Vito just as much. Vito beheaded a horse and killed people. I’m guessing that Tessio would’ve betrayed the Corleone family regardless of who was in charge. If Vito was more of a family man, that doesn’t make him any less ruthless.
I wonder when told everyone Tom was out, if he was also testing Tom’s loyalty.
No. He was just changing the strategy. He never disbeliefed Tom
Tom was let in on the plan when Vito died
Tom was just more useful as a lawyer at this point.
Yes
Was fish working undercover
I liked this scene in the book better. Vito also guided Michael in these matters, near the the end when leaving the room, Tom said to Michael, "theres one thing you need to learn, how to say no"
Never let a poor man be the boss
They needed Tom to be the squeaky clean lawyer for the Vegas operation. By cutting him loose of the Barzini angle, Michael was making sure Tom would focus on the next important move: Vegas. Not sure why Tom questioned this and took it as an insult when it was the best thing to do for the family and for Tom. The Old Man reassured Tom and as Michael said, what better consigliere than the Old Man. But Tom kept questioning the move and Michael got pissed and shut him up: “you’re out Tom!”.
I love this transition of power between father and son. That was the first hard, but necessary decision as the new acting Don that Michael had to make and you see it weighed heavily on him by the way he undid his tie and slumped in to his fathers chair.
That pat on the shoulder by the old Don was his way of telling Michael that he made the right decision and that these are the hard choices you will have to face as head of the family son.
Should've been in writing tocayo...
My,Bible!
That pan and scan shit is annoying
it was a big mistake to fire tom
They weren't firing Tom, they were insulating him from a mob war, they knew he was an intellectual not a fighter
No it wasn’t. Firing Tom was essential to ensure he WASN’T going to be the traitor. Vito and Mike knew Bardzini would get to someone at the top who would betray Mike after Vito died. Firing Tom at this point ensured he wouldn’t be that traitor.
Tom got no balls he ain't gencho
@@alatamoreno it was to legitimise Tom and have him look after Vegas while Vito takes over. Tom isn’t a war councillor
@@mitchjames9350yes, that is true. Tom was a helluva good guy, and a good peacetime Consigliere, but wasn't cut out to be a wartime one. Just like Santino(Sonny) wasn't meant to be Don. He was to hot-headed.
Let the blood spill...and it did!
Vito: “Be a friend to Michael”
Tessio: “ok, I’ll be offing Michael”
Vito: “What?”
Tessio: “What?”
Id rather die than live another moment in this dead ass town.
The godfather is touted as a masterpiece by some, but honestly it is boring. Mostly just talking. Blah blah blah, boring as hell.
everyone has different taste in movies. I respect that.
Not enough explosions, car crashes, and superhero stunts for you?
@@erictrenbeath9680 forgive him.... one day he saw a man killing three men with a pencil in a bar and since that day on, he is not the same. LOL
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honestly i was just thinking that as i was watching this. maybe how it's rendered here, with the camera moving back and forth, makes it more burdensome. but this clip felt pretty boring, and i've seen the movie a lot
Not in this life... I am completely sorviegn.
You have your fearless leader. Good luck.