This Was NOT the Mini PC We Expected... Minisforum UM790 Pro Review

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • We found something when we were testing the Minisforum UM790 Pro alongside the Beelink GTR7 and GTR7 Pro that we were not expecting. This new mini PC uses the AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS along with a host of generational improvements over the UM690 to make something that we were not expecting.
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    00:00 Introduction
    01:37 External Hardware Overview
    02:09 Testing USB4 with Power Delivery and Thunderbolt 3 10GbE and eGPU
    04:34 Internal Hardware Overview
    09:26 Power Consumption and Very Good Noise
    12:13 AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS Performance Unexpected
    15:13 Key Lessons Learned with Pricing and Generational Differences
    17:05 Wrap-up
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  • @jabonorte
    @jabonorte 11 месяцев назад +14

    Good buy as a Bare bones. I would always swap out the manufacturer's SSD anyway, as they are about 40% slower than a cheap x4 stick. Shame you didn't test it in a RAID setup - it was almost like Minisforum wanted you to - but great review!

  • @lunatik9696
    @lunatik9696 8 месяцев назад +16

    I've had mine for about a month now. It is fantastic! It is TINY. Highly recommended.
    It replaces a 2 yr old MinisForum HX90 Barebones, 5900HX CPU.
    I got this one factory.
    The power draw is minimal. I gladly trade a little performance for much less heat.
    It is mounted on a wall with the HX90 VESA mount.
    Due to initial cabling as it replaced a HX90, the rear fan was pointed down.
    While the fan air movement was virtually silent,
    the actual fan bearing was whizzing at a high frequency which was mildly annoying.
    I would only hear it when my head was turned in a particular direction playing games in 4K.
    I rerouted the cable and the fan is pointed up. I never hear the fan anymore.
    I also don't use 4K anymore as it makes no noticeable difference.
    Many games act weirdly at 4K also i.e. HUD resize, too small text, etc.

    • @dannieduplessis2432
      @dannieduplessis2432 Месяц назад +1

      Hi, good post...How about the WIFI connectivity ????? The GEEKS mini PC are rubbish with WIFI connectivity. How is this for wifi ? Do you lose much at all ? My Router is in the same room as i think the wifi booster dongles are a crock ....
      Thanks in advance

    • @calvinbrady9944
      @calvinbrady9944 Месяц назад

      Good luck. My motherboard fried at 4 months. Absolutely is trash.

    • @MysticCaravan
      @MysticCaravan Месяц назад +1

      @@calvinbrady9944 Were you overclocking?

  • @kowalja6
    @kowalja6 11 месяцев назад +25

    I got Um790 pro 2 days ago, and I'm in awe. D4 runs buttery smooth at 1080p in medium to high settings.

    • @TheLazyVideo
      @TheLazyVideo 11 месяцев назад +4

      Is there any GaN battery brick that’s compatible with the UM790? I’d love a usb-c “ups”-like setup where windows can monitor the battery level and auto-shutdown when the battery level is low.
      I’m scared of consumer ssds because they lack PLP that enterprise ssds have, meaning that at-rest data can get corrupted during sudden power loss.

    • @StrawHatSinna.
      @StrawHatSinna. 10 месяцев назад +1

      Is it good for video recording using obs while gaming and video editing?

    • @JustADinoNuggie
      @JustADinoNuggie 8 месяцев назад

      How often does it randomly reboot? 😂

    • @armyofninjas9055
      @armyofninjas9055 2 месяца назад

      D4 never ran smooth on anything

    • @dannieduplessis2432
      @dannieduplessis2432 Месяц назад

      Hi, good post...How about the WIFI connectivity ????? The GEEKS mini PC are rubbish with WIFI connectivity. How is this for wifi ? Do you lose much at all ? My Router is in the same room as i think the wifi booster dongles are a crock ....
      Thanks in advance

  • @Boswell341
    @Boswell341 5 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent Video! Informative, thorough and well produced. You look better in the Blue T-shirt.

  • @therevoman
    @therevoman 11 месяцев назад +4

    Lol, Patrick you are awesome!
    I have to say it stresses me out when you hold the 10GbE dongle by the cord...even though I do the exact same thing.

  • @survivingnetworkingandit2084
    @survivingnetworkingandit2084 11 месяцев назад +12

    A+ on re-designing your intro. Thank you. You are the Steve we want, not just the Steve we deserve!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +5

      Always a work in progress.

    • @0xKruzr
      @0xKruzr 11 месяцев назад

      ^-- came to post this, lol

  • @MrPerrisC
    @MrPerrisC 11 месяцев назад

    Nicely complete, subscribed, I'd like to see the best of these minis compared to m2 variants including ultra

  • @jeremybarber2837
    @jeremybarber2837 11 месяцев назад +2

    Nice review, love that we have competition in this space.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +3

      Competition is pushing these forward rapidly.

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z 8 месяцев назад

    I put a Samsung 990 pro and 2x8gb ddr5 5600 in mine. I mainly watch videos, browse and stream music. It's connected to a 50 inch 4k TV. Love it.

  • @mdd1963
    @mdd1963 8 месяцев назад +1

    Would love to have one of these some day! For now, more than content tinkering with my lowly Celeron 5105-based miniPC at $159 total!

  • @derekswitzer9624
    @derekswitzer9624 11 месяцев назад +2

    great vid and info! so I'm trying to decide between this minisForum and the beelink gtr7 pro that you also mentioned.. when comparing each with the same options (32gb, 1tb ssd) which would you go with based on your testing? also, looks like the minisforum had 2? are they raided to equal the 512?

  • @starkfuture1057
    @starkfuture1057 11 месяцев назад +137

    In 2 years when these hit $300, I’d definitely give this a try.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +20

      Great point.

    • @kennethfeagins1414
      @kennethfeagins1414 11 месяцев назад +6

      These will make ideal compute clusters at that price point. Drop one of the m.2 in favor of a 10g/25g sfp+..

    • @damiendye6623
      @damiendye6623 11 месяцев назад +11

      They don't make big batches and become abandoned ware quickly

    • @akin242002
      @akin242002 11 месяцев назад +7

      It's good for gamers, software programers, video editors, and Office 365 productivity. Very individual focused.
      However, it is horrible to roll out to multiple employees in a short time due to difficulty getting to the SSD. Not something an Information Technology team should use at a company.

    • @user-lq6vm5rj6s
      @user-lq6vm5rj6s 11 месяцев назад

      the same idea

  • @festro1000
    @festro1000 11 месяцев назад +3

    Love that the cmos reset button doesn't look like a short mishap away from a bad time, would have been nice to have at least one of the usb4 ports on the back, while I can see some use cases for having it on the front just seems counterproductive for a clean look that many of these are going for as well as counterintuitive when you consider most people expect to find things relating to power and extensions on the rear of the case, either way minor gripes aside love the IO on offer and looks like it would be a great system for on the go casual gamers and homlab servers even if it has one network port itself.

  • @IDecaturX
    @IDecaturX 7 месяцев назад +1

    ill be buying one of these soon and what im going to do first thing is to remove the rubber feet,remove the adhesive, drill a hole and put a small magnet in each foot

  • @erictayet
    @erictayet 9 месяцев назад

    I received this in late July and it's wow!

  • @agray8109
    @agray8109 11 месяцев назад +1

    Check out their NPB7. I've been using it for about a month now and it's got the feature/performance/price point I was looking for in a very small package.
    Great review!

    • @Matt-df8kd
      @Matt-df8kd 9 месяцев назад

      About to buy that but considering the 790 for gaming

  • @standardpecan5294
    @standardpecan5294 11 месяцев назад +8

    I am loving all these mini pc companies and their products. I personally run 2 BeeLink SEi12 for my kubernetes server now after years of running it on my pi cluster. Way better performance and less problems with arm. If they ever make a NAS mini pc product capable of supporting up to 6x 3.5" HDD and 2x SSD, I would buy it in a heartbeat.

  • @robertfitzgerald3432
    @robertfitzgerald3432 11 месяцев назад

    The Kamrui GK4 16/512 Alderlake I just purchased has been functionally perfectly.

  • @trumplostlol3007
    @trumplostlol3007 5 месяцев назад

    This is a very good review. Thank you.

  • @LA-MJ
    @LA-MJ 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hella cool, thanks for the review

  • @post-leftluddite
    @post-leftluddite 11 месяцев назад +2

    If i had the money hanging around id absolutely LOVE one of these AMD Pheonix MiniPCs....RDNA3 has made APUs a real game changer

  • @stevenp3176
    @stevenp3176 10 месяцев назад +11

    Remember you have 2 thunderbolt ports that are supposed to be able to supply 15W each. There’s why you have the larger power supply.

  • @DavidAshwell
    @DavidAshwell 11 месяцев назад +4

    Would love to see three of these with TB to TB (USB4 to USB4) networked in a ring network

  • @RobbieRobski
    @RobbieRobski 7 месяцев назад +1

    Holes in the rubber feet woudl be great. But even better if they did a mechanical pop up switch or whatever you call it, like their Deskmini UM350

  • @ivanlee2896
    @ivanlee2896 8 месяцев назад

    Awesome video for 790 pro i've seen so far, I'm considering to get a 2nd mini pc for gaming (dota2) and watch some videos. Would you be able to advice on which setup (Ram/Ssd) should i buy? Thank you

  • @Ngamer834
    @Ngamer834 2 месяца назад +3

    Noticed some people have had issues with this Mini PC. I have had mine for some months now and not one problem so far it has been reliable for me.

    • @randysmailbox
      @randysmailbox 16 дней назад

      Same with me .. And I have it connected to 3 monitors playing games watching youtube and normal workstation stuff all at once and all day. Never gets over 165F . Not 1 single issue since ive bought mine 2 months ago . This baby is a powerhouse .

  • @netmaster78
    @netmaster78 11 месяцев назад +1

    Can´t wait for mine to finally arrive in roughly two weeks.

    • @Dryde85
      @Dryde85 Месяц назад

      HOW MUCH DO YOU LIKE IT THESE PAST NINE MONTHS I WANT ONE

  • @zeekjones1
    @zeekjones1 11 месяцев назад

    For the higher power settings, are they just sound and thermals?
    _Because I could totally mod a dozen or so more millimeters to the case bottom for a quieter and/or more powerful fan._

  • @woocashekful
    @woocashekful 11 месяцев назад +6

    Does anyone know if this motherboard supports ECC memory? I know that unofficially this processor supports the operation of ECC memory, but I don't know about the motherboard. This is a key aspect of buying this device for me

  • @catsmeow5566
    @catsmeow5566 3 месяца назад

    Thank you for this review. I think this one is perfect to replace my mother's old gigantic desktop that recently died. She mostly watches RUclips videos, pays bills, & plays basic games. But if she wants to play more advanced games with fancier graphics she should be able to. This will take up much less space and be easier to deal with. The sound isn't a problem since we have fans running in the house all the time and she wears noise cancelling headphones anyway.
    Did you test out the Bluetooth to see if it was stable and had good distance?

  • @neilquinn
    @neilquinn 11 месяцев назад +41

    Steve, Beelink also introduced a firmware on 6/21 for the GTR7 that lets you select 45w, 54w, 65w for cpu tdp if you want to let it run a bit cooler too!

    • @zyghom
      @zyghom 11 месяцев назад +2

      where is the firmware for Beelink mini pc to be found?

    • @neilquinn
      @neilquinn 11 месяцев назад +7

      @@zyghom I work with a rep there but you could probably just email their support. Ask for the 6/21 firmware that supports TDP changes and RAID.

    • @zxcvb_bvcxz
      @zxcvb_bvcxz 11 месяцев назад +1

      Beelink, actually providing updates? Amazing.

    • @benderozo
      @benderozo 11 месяцев назад

      The firmware already had an easy way to set TDP without updates...

    • @zhila5958
      @zhila5958 11 месяцев назад +1

      @kogami420 for real, i just got into the mini pc market and can't tell if beelink is better or minisform when it comes to thermals and overall reputation alongside support.

  • @sayanchx
    @sayanchx 11 месяцев назад +4

    First comment and like ! Patrick and the STH team you folks rock - I always enjoy your videos ! Learnt a lot from you all. Thank you so much and best wieshes !!

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +1

      Ha! Thank you. Congratulations on your first comment! Have an awesome day

  • @DaveAuld
    @DaveAuld 11 месяцев назад

    @ServeTheHome I have 3 of the previous Gen UM690s and noticed a peculiarity with the rear USB ports, although all spec'd as USB3.2, the bottom 2x USB ports between the HDMI and the case edge were running at slower speeds than the 2 usb ports between the HDMI and Eth port. The difference was huge, using an astrophotography camera, the fast ports were getting 130fps capture rates and the slower ports were only getting 10FPS. Hopefully this is just a firmware or driver issue, and hopefully doesn't impact the new models.

    • @LtdJorge
      @LtdJorge 11 месяцев назад

      Are you clustering?

  • @darknessblades
    @darknessblades 11 месяцев назад +1

    Planning on potentially changing my home-assistant setup from a RPI4 2gb
    Looking for a High-performance mini-pc with at most 5-10W power consumption.
    Any suggestions?

  • @thomasmccormack4796
    @thomasmccormack4796 7 месяцев назад +1

    Is it a good idea to change the VRAM from 2GB to 6GB in the BIOs for AAA games and emulation?

  • @juliejones8785
    @juliejones8785 Месяц назад

    I am very curious about the other system sitting on the table at 1:20. You mentioned that it will be covered in a future video. I have looked and do not see anything about it.

  • @dmitrysharshakov6416
    @dmitrysharshakov6416 8 месяцев назад +1

    How is it working with both USB-C power and 19V power connected from the back? Which power supply will be used? Also, how is graphics performance and suspend on recent Linux?

  • @DS-pk4eh
    @DS-pk4eh 11 месяцев назад +1

    AMD has here a really great APU. Wonder when the AM5 version of it will come? Or we will need to wait for that Halo Strix apu?

  • @helloken
    @helloken 11 месяцев назад

    Can these also be set to run on lower power if we wanted to sacrifice some performance for power and heat savings?

  • @hansmatos2504
    @hansmatos2504 Месяц назад

    I have a question. Does the barebone model come with the wifi/bluetooth card, or does it not include that? :o

  • @ChristianHowell
    @ChristianHowell 11 месяцев назад

    I have the UM690 since most big cases were because we didn't have a couple of sticks of gum that hold 4TB apiece or IGPs with RSR to do 60fps... I'm hoping we'll se a new model with 7940HS and a 7600M XT\7700S to upgrade the current model with a 6900HX and 6600M...

  • @john2001plus
    @john2001plus 11 месяцев назад

    I have been planning to buy this unit.

  • @Thief000
    @Thief000 11 месяцев назад +13

    It's almost perfect for me. The only thing that really irks me is not having 10GbE integrated. It's got blazing fast internal storage, but would then be limited for network transfers by that 2.5GbE port, unless I buy another dongle. Seriously...come on!
    Marvell has great AQC113 chips and I'd pay extra for this capability. Yes, they usually use more power than 2.5GbE chips (more heat), but not everybody is stuck on Cat5e networks.
    I'd also prefer the USB4 ports to be on the back with the HDMI ports, having all the display outputs on one side and then 2 USB-A on the front instead, but that's a minor thing.

    • @AB-yt4hd
      @AB-yt4hd 9 месяцев назад +3

      They should put a sfp+ cage with the AQC113. You can then choose between 2.5G, 10G, fiber or copper.

  • @denvera1g1
    @denvera1g1 11 месяцев назад +45

    The one thing i'd change about this design, is move 2 of the type A ports to the front, and the type C ports to the back.
    Type A on the front is great for wireless accessories like mice and headsets
    and type C on the back allows for a cleaner look.
    Addtionally, if this saves enough space, it might allow for a second network port, though unless this came with a Ryzen 3, it would be overkill to use this as a router, unless youre doing some serious caching with a 10G network port and 2x NVMe.

    • @erroneouscode
      @erroneouscode 11 месяцев назад +3

      Saved me from writing same.

    • @neilquinn
      @neilquinn 11 месяцев назад +3

      I think it should be a blend of both A and C on both front and back. Why? Could get any type of thumbdrive and want easy front access. USB-C on the rear is critical if you want to semi-permanently attach an external HDD or other peripheral and want it tucked away on the back of your desk not the front.

    • @Chris.Brisson
      @Chris.Brisson 11 месяцев назад +2

      But, but, these are USB4, and USB4 enjoys short cable length.

    • @denvera1g1
      @denvera1g1 11 месяцев назад

      @@neilquinn Agreed, i have a 1TB USB-C flash drive that is rather conveneint, but it also has USB-A on the other side
      Personally for thumb drives, unless they're absolutely tiny, i prefer A over C because it is a more robust mount.

    • @tappy8741
      @tappy8741 11 месяцев назад

      I mount these things to a monitor. Having ample usbc and usba on front and back is good because that's left and right side of the monitor.

  • @donativool
    @donativool 11 месяцев назад +1

    Does MinisForum fixed the permanent sporadic green or black screen of death? Like it is still not fixed on the Elite HM50 / HM80 series and other U series. MF is not responding to support requests and is not able or willing to fix it.... I would give them this kind of stage here with this bad support... 😕

  • @tomonabudget
    @tomonabudget 11 месяцев назад +2

    This would be an awesome little unit for robotics.

  • @jonathanbuzzard1376
    @jonathanbuzzard1376 11 месяцев назад +2

    Would love a 6800U version. I am still loving my Asus PN50 with 4800U, 64GB RAM and 2TB SSD, all in an Akasa Turing case for complete silence.

    • @ad_fletch
      @ad_fletch 11 месяцев назад

      There are fanless 6800Us tempting me on Aliexpress now, not from Minisforum though.

  • @davidaraujo2049
    @davidaraujo2049 2 месяца назад

    Seriously considering buying one of these PC, spec it out to the max and make a home lab for virtualization with Proxmox

  • @oculosprudentium8486
    @oculosprudentium8486 11 месяцев назад

    Can I use this for video editing and converting?what is the link to their site and the price for this unit?

  • @steska77
    @steska77 3 месяца назад

    That's a great review! Would you recommend it to use a home DAW? Or is it too noisy?

    • @docjoesweeney
      @docjoesweeney Месяц назад

      I use my 64gb um790 pro unit as a DAW (bitwig). It makes no noise at all. Literally nothing. It beats the hell out of my big old tower DAW setup with no clicks and crackles even when running a lot of vst plug ins.

  • @mofoq
    @mofoq 11 месяцев назад

    is that tape covering one of the USB-C ports from the inside at ~ 1:37? 🤔

  • @zhongzhao2277
    @zhongzhao2277 9 месяцев назад

    Thank you!

  • @rageUK78
    @rageUK78 10 месяцев назад

    This or the GTR7 pro? I've an order placed for the miniforum model because of retrocorps review but he made an error and this actually has hdmi 2.1 as it turns out so considering cancelling my order now....since the gtr7 seems to have stronger performance although I preferred the ability to get standalone and order my own ram etc but then I gather we can sell the ram/drive out of the GTR7 anyway perhaps although overall maybe a more expensive purchase at that point hmmmm

  • @peterfischer5420
    @peterfischer5420 6 месяцев назад

    I ordered one. Not 100% what I wanted, but certeinly convincing enough and hopefully available, too.

  • @zoltanmaszlag2982
    @zoltanmaszlag2982 11 месяцев назад

    Hi Steve, Can you set the RAM timing in the BIOS?
    It would be interesting because the RAM is also used as graphics memory, and if you buy the barebones version and use faster RAM, for example DDR5-5600, CL40-40-40, the graphics performance could be a lot better. The important question would be whether the UM790 pro with DDR5-5600, CL40-40-40 runs stably or not?

  • @zaunb9054
    @zaunb9054 11 месяцев назад

    I'm looking for a Mini PC that I can use to work on my comic(digital art), produce music, and maybe some very light casual gaming(i.e. minecraft, planet base, remote play, etc.) Going to be using a 22in drawing tablet and a regular monitor for displays. Is this a system that would work for that? Any other suggestions?

  • @CylonHead
    @CylonHead 10 месяцев назад

    Can you change the COMS battery or is it Soldered in?

  • @trunksviper6583
    @trunksviper6583 2 месяца назад

    ServeTheHome team: is possible to know witch kit and specs are for the retail version [32GB Kingston DDR5-5600 SODIMMs for 64GB] if it was running at 5600 and the cl. I,m running out of my 32gb of ram just browsing and gaming. This video help me to make the decision to buy the um790pro but i never think that i will rimming out of ram.

  • @Andrew-dj1wd
    @Andrew-dj1wd 9 месяцев назад +1

    After 1 month using this Minisforum UM790 lost all Audio out. Took screen video recording which played back audio on my Cellphone. Tested my external Logitech speakers on another Labtop and speaker audio was good. Ran Windows Audio Driver Troubleshooting. Says sorry we can't find issue. - Tried to Update Audio Driver. Says Could not solve the problem.
    Any suggestions?

  • @federicovalmassoni3827
    @federicovalmassoni3827 11 месяцев назад

    Which is the material of the black cooling plate, if you know?

  • @dougcarmack5426
    @dougcarmack5426 11 месяцев назад

    Did you see a Realtek audio chip on the motherboard when you had it open? I am really interested in what the controller is for the audio.

  • @johnjakson444
    @johnjakson444 8 месяцев назад

    This ryzen chip has 2x the passmark of the M@, yet you can spec the ram and ssd size, nice. Wonder what it would be like as a hackintosh using the VM approach.

  • @tokyojerry
    @tokyojerry 11 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you very much for this video presentation. It could not have been more timely as my unit just arrived yesterday. I ordered mine with 64GB RAM , 1TB SSD and Windows 11 Pro. My immediate first impression, I love it!! This will become my main production machine. Currently I am using an ASUS ROG F15 Dash TUF, closed lid and connected to my external LG 40" Ultrawide 4K monitor as my main system. That also works just super. A couple caveats I have noticed up front. When I connect my LG monitor to the UM790, I noticed I only get 30Hz refresh. That is UNacceptable. I presume I would / could get better over the USB4 ports, but hey, are these not HDMI v2.1 ports? Are they not supposed to support up to 60Hz even at 8K? Now, I don't know if the cable makes the difference as I am using one of my own HDMI cables I have laying around rather than the cable that came shipped with the kit. Do HDMI cables have rated variations (i.e., v2.1 compatible) similar in the way there are differences between Thunderbolt 4 active, Passive, and plain vanilla USB-C cables?
    The other caveat I noticed is that when I attempted to upgrade my Windows 11 Pro to the latest Windows Insider Preview Build (#23493) on two attempts now it hangs at 64% and I had to resort back to the previous installation as they shipped it. I wonder if that has something to do with this being an AMD vs Intel processor. Cheers,
    Jerry / Tokyo.

    • @DeltaSierra426
      @DeltaSierra426 11 месяцев назад +1

      I know that DisplayPort cables can have official ratings from VESA. I'm not sure about HDMI. I've seen mixed thoughts on this that cables don't truly have a rating and rather it depends on their quality, but that's can't of the say same in that the rating is supposed to assert a minimum quality level. I'd just say just stick to reputable names and avoid the random Amazon ones that claim HDMI 2.1 for next to nothing as there are plenty of fakes on the market. Yes, though, I'd 100% try another HDMI cable. There's also a place in Windows to change the refresh rate and a place in AMD Adrenaline graphics software, so you might verify if 30 Hz is actual max or just defaulted to and can be set higher.
      As for Windows 11, I'd say not necessarily that it has an AMD processor but that the Phoenix APU is so new, yes, it could be a driver issue or something of the like. If only MS made it more straightforward to review an error log when something like that happens to know for sure.

    • @dannieduplessis2432
      @dannieduplessis2432 Месяц назад +1

      Hi, good post...How about the WIFI connectivity ????? The GEEKS mini PC are rubbish with WIFI connectivity. How is this for wifi ? Do you lose much at all ? My Router is in the same room as i think the wifi booster dongles are a crock ....
      Thanks in advance

    • @dannieduplessis2432
      @dannieduplessis2432 Месяц назад

      @@DeltaSierra426 Hi, good post...How about the WIFI connectivity ????? The GEEKS mini PC are rubbish with WIFI connectivity. How is this for wifi ? Do you lose much at all ? My Router is in the same room as i think the wifi booster dongles are a crock ....
      Thanks in advance

    • @tokyojerry
      @tokyojerry Месяц назад

      @@dannieduplessis2432 WiFi works fine for me. no weak signals, drop issues. I have the router (ASUS RT-AX86U) in the same room with the UM790Pro and no problems.

  • @remymoll1516
    @remymoll1516 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm trying to find a guide for passing through the gpu when running proxmox. Can somebody point me to some resources?

  • @AlexDeejay1973
    @AlexDeejay1973 4 месяца назад

    Would I make a leap in quality and performance from the Acer Aspire 5 A515-45-R54J Laptop PC, Notebook, AMD Ryzen 5 5500U Processor that I currently own?

  • @StevenDLeary
    @StevenDLeary 11 месяцев назад +4

    @ServeTheHomVideo Silly question, any support onboard for ECC memory?

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +1

      We did not confirm ECC working beyond the on-chip ECC for DDR5 that is handled by the modules (this is not the same as ECC SODIMMs to be clear.)

    • @kwinzman
      @kwinzman 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo You should get a pair of real DDR5 ECC SO-DIMMs and include testing with those in any future SFF review that you do! Does it accept it, is it recognized as error detecting and error correcting according to the OS. Thanks in advance!

  • @theethans898
    @theethans898 5 дней назад

    I take mine apart all the time to my surprise the feet still stick on it and they stay on until you really knock them off. I mean, if you’re not careful you lose them but like say you put in a backpack or something so long as you just don’t slide against the side.

  • @sk1fiend
    @sk1fiend 11 месяцев назад

    Just bought the barebones version. Still waiting for delivery. I had to communicate on Skype because my email didn't attach itself to the orignal order, although I did enter my mobile number which should allow me to get shipping and delivery updates.
    I have no idea when it is due to arrive. Will have to chase on Skype as I've had no communication via email, although they have added my email to the order.

  • @justinpatterson5291
    @justinpatterson5291 8 месяцев назад

    Can't wait for the Ryzen 8000 series. With the extra 4 cores (12C) and 4 extra Compute Units (16 CUs) of RDNA 3.5.

  • @twoina
    @twoina 7 месяцев назад

    Does it support 96 GB RAM or even more in the future? The minisforum website says max. 64 GB, but the CPU does support 256.

  • @Vinterloft
    @Vinterloft 11 месяцев назад +2

    Barebones is key. I would never buy something like this without choosing my own SSD and RAM, especially since in a device with only 2 NVME slots I would go 4TB in both.

  • @seedypr6479
    @seedypr6479 11 месяцев назад +1

    I'm either going to buy UM790 pro or Beelink GTR7 pro to pair with RX6750xt via a ADT m.2 gpu dock. Which would you personally recommend? Cheers👍

    • @ericliume
      @ericliume 11 месяцев назад +2

      Minisforum's form factor, quietness, fast memory are a plus.

  • @jadhal9280
    @jadhal9280 9 месяцев назад

    sir u have e gpu
    sir
    what is price of e gpu dock and
    which gpu supported by this dock.
    also band width..
    can get less fps than desktop /laptop gpu... ? or any lag
    if any video is uploaded give link...

  • @antonyssharedvideo8971
    @antonyssharedvideo8971 11 месяцев назад

    Can you run some Linux tests on these little things and see if they can handle Linux well?

  • @jannegrey593
    @jannegrey593 11 месяцев назад +1

    Looks genuinely fantastic. Especially with option for barebones. This is something I see very rarely and honestly it makes buying it much easier.

    • @mavfan1
      @mavfan1 11 месяцев назад

      So dishonestly it makes buying it more difficult?

  • @MoraFermi
    @MoraFermi 11 месяцев назад +9

    That 4x10Gb USB + 2xUSB4 really makes this system shine.

    • @btudrus
      @btudrus 11 месяцев назад

      No 10gbe, so it sucks...

  • @zijinzhang20
    @zijinzhang20 11 месяцев назад

    I happened to order a unit a couple of days ago and I happened to have an EGPU chassis too😂

  • @danle2884
    @danle2884 4 месяца назад

    Thank you so much for the video. So will this pc take max a second 4TB SSD besides the original 1 TB sold on Amazon.?

  • @keithkeber5655
    @keithkeber5655 11 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't hear it mentioned, but does the UM790 Pro have an internal SATA connection?

    • @iamrocketray
      @iamrocketray 2 месяца назад

      NO, only 2X N.2 nvme SSD slots

  • @ATrollAssNigga
    @ATrollAssNigga 11 месяцев назад +2

    The only reason igot the beelink gtr7 pro is the 64w tdp but adjustable. Been running mine at 90w(this isnt from the wall but the sppt setting in the bios, not everyone has this and many other bios settings tho, might be a pro only setting) and its basically a r7 7700 so be careful looking at scores my beelink is conflating the avg 7940hs scores. I can even run 6400mhz ram.

  • @hubstrangers3450
    @hubstrangers3450 11 месяцев назад

    Thank you....

  • @tomaszwaszka3394
    @tomaszwaszka3394 6 месяцев назад

    Minisforum UM790 Pro or BeeLink Ser 7. Which one generates less noise ???

  • @Waaaaaaaaaaaang
    @Waaaaaaaaaaaang 11 месяцев назад +6

    Did you try sticking the Mushkin 48GB SODIMMs from the HP TMM box onto the Ryzen boxes just to see what would happen? The memory controller on the Rembrandt/Phoenixes are said to be limited to 32GB SODIMMs, but AMD are usually pretty good when it comes to being a bit over-spec.

    • @abaymajr1976
      @abaymajr1976 11 месяцев назад

      I was able to run the NPB7 with 2 x 48 GB Mushkins. Also, I read two guys made the same successfully experimentation with both UM690 and UM773 Lite. So, I think the UM790 Pro should be also compatible.

    • @olliefu
      @olliefu 11 месяцев назад +1

      I would be interested in a definite answer to this too before I order some 😅

  • @MGmirkin
    @MGmirkin 9 месяцев назад

    Would like to see a head-to-head between:
    Minisforum UM790 Pro
    GMKTech NucBox K4
    Beelink GTR7
    All with the R9 7940HS (8C/16T, Radeon 780M), 32GB 1TB.
    Would like to see head-to-head performance, power draw, heat, noise, gaming performance, integrated ports, do they come with Windows pre-installed, etc. And general bang for the buck?
    They all seem pretty comparable on basic specs: proc/mem/NVMe, etc. Just wondering on the differences, and haven't seen any of them in a head-to-head, tear-down, etc.
    I'm debating buying one or more of this style of mini-PC to just do stuff like crunching PrimeGrid tasks, and maybe some light gaming. Debating if these will be sufficient for the purpose, or if the integrated graphics, "mobile"-esque chips will be a bottleneck vs. a full PC with dedicated graphics? Or if the bang-for-the-buck is sufficient for the trade-offs.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  9 месяцев назад

      We talked about the UM790 Pro and the GTR7 non-pro in the GTR7 Pro video that came out after this: ruclips.net/video/LciJqD74Mc4/видео.html

  • @derekschommer1465
    @derekschommer1465 9 месяцев назад

    I already have 6tb of gen 4 ssds so the barebones kit is perfect for me

  • @zaunb9054
    @zaunb9054 11 месяцев назад

    Could you guys check out the Geekom AS 6? It's got a AMD Ryzen 6000H series chip in it I believe

    • @AUSE
      @AUSE 3 месяца назад

      Geekom uses bot comments on peoples reviews of it also leave negative reviews on competitors reviews big yikes avoid them

  • @user-kt2kz5qg4z
    @user-kt2kz5qg4z 11 месяцев назад +1

    Great review! Very thorough. I'm going to mention this to my boss, who is looking for a new computer.

  • @ffcfff1003
    @ffcfff1003 5 месяцев назад

    Can anyone check if it's possible to connect a USB C PD power bank to power the UM790 Pro in case of power failure? Does it have an automatic power holdover ?

  • @pau_gz6899
    @pau_gz6899 5 месяцев назад

    Will the WD Black nvme ssd with hestsink fit?

  • @gregglowery3452
    @gregglowery3452 11 месяцев назад

    I received mine a couple days ago and attempted to install Manjaro Linux to an external SSD using a USB4 enclosure. Unfortunately, the bios does not detect the external drive at boot and always wants to boot the Windows install on the internal SSD. Hopefully this gets sorted out with a bios update soon.

    • @dmitrysharshakov6416
      @dmitrysharshakov6416 8 месяцев назад

      You can probably install the kernel and initrd on the internal SSD and have it mount rootfs from the Thunderbolt one. Probably needs some initrd setup as Thunderbolt security settings need extra config

    • @docjoesweeney
      @docjoesweeney Месяц назад

      ​@@dmitrysharshakov6416alas, the bios will not allow dual boot or usb boot. So you need to install a second ssd and the blitz the windows environment. The bios is just terrible.

  • @VideogamesAsArt
    @VideogamesAsArt 10 месяцев назад +2

    This is perfect! Let's see if they introduce a cheaper version with maybe the lower powered U chips, or just Ryzen 7 instead of Ryzen 9. I don't need a mini PC right now but I definitely want this!

    • @FelixRisingOriginal
      @FelixRisingOriginal 7 месяцев назад

      They sell this with the Ryzen 9 and Ryzen 7, the choice is yours.

  • @weeblnbobredux
    @weeblnbobredux 11 месяцев назад +3

    Would love to see a decked out kit running ESXi/Proxmox to see how these function as lower power virtualization hosts.

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +2

      Like this? ruclips.net/video/HylKpDmwaFA/видео.html

  • @JamesWesleyCheng
    @JamesWesleyCheng 11 месяцев назад

    May I know if the WiFi performance is acceptable? I only have wireless connection at home and would like to know if the WiFi is tolerable considering quite some remarks on the antenna being subpar

    • @iamrocketray
      @iamrocketray 2 месяца назад

      I disconnected the Aerial's and poked them through the grills, I have also replaced the bottom grill with the tiny fan on, and fitted a 120 mm usb fan. Far better and I can't hear it at all now. I didn't need to do those mods as it worked perfectly before, but I can't stop myself from improving(modding) things 🤣!

  • @tolson68
    @tolson68 7 месяцев назад

    Your review states that you have to remove the screws, where as Level1Techs review stated that the bottom just snaps on. Can anyone confirm whether this is a toolless case or not?

    • @ScratchingTheGreen
      @ScratchingTheGreen 7 месяцев назад +1

      First, you have to remove the taped feet, undo the 4 screws (under the taped feet), then use a strong fingernail/soft prytool to unsnap the bottom cover.

  • @TehDiNK89
    @TehDiNK89 9 месяцев назад

    does anyone know if the 790 pro could run diablo 4? I'm not worried about max settings by any means, just looking for something budget friendly than can run diablo 4 and less demanding games

  • @paolopetrozzi2213
    @paolopetrozzi2213 Месяц назад

    Hi, thanks

  • @dsmith5940
    @dsmith5940 Месяц назад

    Hiya. I am obviously late to the party, but is there any difference between this UM790 model as compared to the less expensive UM780, aside from the very slight clock bump? If note, since I will be Occulinking this to a 7900XTX, that clock bump is essentially irrelevant to me, I think. Arguments against this thought process?

  • @informatikabos5481
    @informatikabos5481 11 месяцев назад +5

    Whoa! This CPU generations seems to become the broadwell of this decade. Great news c:

    • @ServeTheHomeVideo
      @ServeTheHomeVideo  11 месяцев назад +4

      AMD Phoenix is VERY good.

    • @informatikabos5481
      @informatikabos5481 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@ServeTheHomeVideo Raptor Lake is not bad either - currently a lot of competition in the market, in the best possible way.

  • @HisLoveArmy
    @HisLoveArmy 10 месяцев назад

    So I decided to install Pop Os Linux on this box. Do I need to install any specific AMD drivers for the GPU to work?

  • @CragScrambler
    @CragScrambler 8 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent emulation machine.