Batman Arkham City: A Review, Analysis and Commentary

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2022
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    Batman Arkham City, overwhelmingly acclaimed, is often hailed as a masterpiece. So was it's predecessor, the great Arkham Asylum. It wasn't true then. But is it true now? Tonight, we're going to find out if Rocksteady's second attempt lives up to the legend in a part review, part analysis, part commentary, made for experienced players and fresh ones alike. But don't forget the most important part... enjoy!
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  • @Whitelight
    @Whitelight  2 года назад +544

    Check out my sick merch at www.whitelight.store and my sick squarespace discount at www.squarespace.com/whitelight. Yeah, this video took forever. Work began all the way back in December. Of 2020. And I've been telling you it's "coming soon" since March, which basically makes this the Cyberpunk of videos... well... the video's finished so perhaps not. Point is, it took quite some time to _get_ finished. Thank you for your patience. Arkham City was the most difficult video I have ever created, from too many perspectives to name in a pinned comment (Thanks, WB, for copyrighting the entire official Arkham soundtrack library). Accordingly, nothing has ever taught me so much. The Dark Souls of videos then? Sounds about right, because also like souls, it's a relief to finally be able to step away, despite the buzz of at last finishing a project you're proud of. I hope you get something out of it. And of course, happy halloween.

    • @irritatingtruth9121
      @irritatingtruth9121 2 года назад +6

      Amazing work boss! I though I haven’t seen your channel in a long while. Glad to see your back!
      Sorry to hear corporate greed still going strong. But keep it up! I’ll be here to watch!

    • @ThePieceofEden
      @ThePieceofEden 2 года назад +1

      that one face thing was a reference to a batman comic series that two face called himself one face for a single comic. The fans made it a meme

    • @zerrorogue
      @zerrorogue 2 года назад

      Have you thought about making a video on the Metro games? Would be something nice to get into, like The Witcher as well. I'm really glad to have found your channel back in 2019!

    • @JazzyUnderscoreTrumpeter
      @JazzyUnderscoreTrumpeter 2 года назад

      I'm so here for this

    • @MaliAljek117
      @MaliAljek117 2 года назад

      did you ever think about making an analysis of Devil May Cry 5? you sprinkle little moments in your videos every so often where you mention it and I'd love to hear your perspective on it

  • @1986Longbow
    @1986Longbow 2 года назад +2375

    Literally the only downside to watching a Whitelight video straight away: having to wait months for the next masterpiece. But with writing like this, it's well worth the wait.

    • @justanotherblackwhitemicke7817
      @justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 2 года назад +25

      You actually see all those months were well spend, I hope he never dissapears

    • @BassyBoy
      @BassyBoy 2 года назад +1

      And then you have Netflix. I know which one I wanna watch :D

    • @SqueebPlays
      @SqueebPlays 2 года назад +6

      Him and Lemmino are the worst waits 🤣

    • @asbestosfish_
      @asbestosfish_ 2 года назад +1

      @@justanotherblackwhitemicke7817 if it gets to three months, we can start to worry

    • @itcouldbelupus2842
      @itcouldbelupus2842 2 года назад +6

      I've rewatched this video 3 times.

  • @omnishyguy
    @omnishyguy 2 года назад +1521

    Your wordplay is something else, man. The puns, the rhymes, the casual jokes, all smoothly delivered. I live for that stuff!

    • @-PVL93-
      @-PVL93- 2 года назад +13

      The cake one really got me, ha

    • @aliupsr
      @aliupsr 2 года назад +35

      Sometimes his alliterations and descriptions drone on and I lose focus but the points are so well-timed that when you do check back in and pay attention, you still catch the point he’s trying to make.

    • @NightRogue77
      @NightRogue77 2 года назад +37

      @@aliupsr Yeah I find that it’s pretty good Content, but my man has a tendency to bloviate and I think he falls in love with his use of the language a bit from time to time… Too many word salads - but I’m sure he’ll get better over time

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 2 года назад +24

      @@NightRogue77 if I had voice as smooth as his, I'd do the same

    • @MrIcenice44
      @MrIcenice44 2 года назад +3

      I laughed “frees him from consciousness” the whole night after my first listen. So good

  • @ThatBoyAqua
    @ThatBoyAqua 2 года назад +2646

    You can’t have Whitelight without a “W”, and this is that “W”.

    • @kieranduffy3434
      @kieranduffy3434 2 года назад +78

      You are always a "W" as well Aqua. All of your videos are fantastic as well. Both you and Whitelight are two creators I enjoy more than everyone else.

    • @brynjolf3974
      @brynjolf3974 2 года назад +16

      You’re a beautiful man

    • @thiagopina4258
      @thiagopina4258 2 года назад +16

      Who are you , must i subscribe?

    • @johnkobebalod9211
      @johnkobebalod9211 2 года назад +3

      Your videos are fantastic as well!

    • @BLUEFIRECAPTAIN
      @BLUEFIRECAPTAIN 2 года назад +15

      You long form guys are really winning my heart over. Now only if you had a collaboration.

  • @bradfork6853
    @bradfork6853 2 года назад +778

    Fun facts about the Mad Hatter side mission:
    If you immediately go back to the spot where he is spying on Batman and Vicki Vale after the cutscene ends, you will find a tea cup on the railing.
    If you detective scan the "cure" pod you will actually see the Hatter's needle inside it that Batman uses believing it to be a med injector.
    If you return to the spot where the pod was some time after finishing the side mission, there will be a tea set on a blanket in its place instead.
    I swear Rocksteady's attention to detail is so vast and thorough it borders on being scary.

    • @ALL_that_ENDS
      @ALL_that_ENDS 2 года назад +6

      Dare I say, borders that of, oh I don't know, red dead redemption 2? Lol, no.. Not even close, but not bad either.

    • @johnnymanning2952
      @johnnymanning2952 2 года назад +81

      @@ALL_that_ENDS red dead 2 is good but this is a 2011 game that was massively impressive for it's time

    • @capricorn878
      @capricorn878 2 года назад +9

      And you can see again lol, he is crying on his house for the rest of the game, even calling CatWoman "Alice" with you go see him with her, i think it's pretty cool that he didn't just disappear

    • @rapianopenaldo1669
      @rapianopenaldo1669 2 года назад +45

      @@johnnymanning2952 these rockstar hotdog riders just come everywhere and push their agenda and compare games years apart for no reason lmao

    • @BlueisNotaWarmColour
      @BlueisNotaWarmColour 2 года назад +28

      @@ALL_that_ENDS hot take, red dead 2 doesn't come close to Arkham City.

  • @chronotrigger6746
    @chronotrigger6746 2 года назад +855

    Genuinely, one of the best channels on RUclips. So well written, analyzed, narrated, and edited. I enjoy every video, even when I haven't played (or like) the game being reviewed.

    • @noahshaw2191
      @noahshaw2191 2 года назад +14

      totally agree, one of my favorite videos on youtube is his death stranding review, a game that I have never played

    • @Gabrilos505
      @Gabrilos505 2 года назад +7

      He and Raycevik are the best currently, imo

    • @SqueebPlays
      @SqueebPlays 2 года назад +4

      @@Gabrilos505 Mandaloregaming amd Grimbeard are pretty fucking great as well.

    • @Gabrilos505
      @Gabrilos505 2 года назад +4

      @@SqueebPlays Oh yeah, there's also a channel called Joseph Anderson, and he's fantastic as well. He's currently working a Witcher 3 video that has been one year in the making, if I'm not mistaken.
      We have an interesting group of talented quality channels here, hahah

    • @skrublordnord69
      @skrublordnord69 2 года назад +2

      I really like his videos and also Creetosis. He mainly does Bethesda games tho. But still they’re both on the same level of detail when it comes to critiques.
      Also watch Cree’s responses to many a true nerds fallout 3 and 4 videos and his podcast episode talking about videogame stories where they cover a presentation done by Emil (head writer at Bethesda) and proves why and how Bethesda games keep dumbing down and seemingly getting worse with every release since oblivion.
      Fair warning tho they are pretty long videos reaching as far as the 11 hour mark sometimes but my advice would be to watch in chunks. Like an hour at a time or whatever you wanna do. Took me a week to get through his MATN response to fallout 3 lmao

  • @Backloo
    @Backloo 2 года назад +63

    Arkham Knight's commentary will probably be as long as the game itself. And you still won't be able to tell whether he liked the game or not

  • @PrattlingPyre
    @PrattlingPyre 2 года назад +347

    I think there is a bizzare nuance to the idea of a "master piece" that it *has* to be flawless. A passion filled but mass appealing work that may have some scuffs is still beautiful. Masterpieces that are household names aren't objective masterpieces bereft of flaws let alone unanimous moving subjective works.

  • @Morec0
    @Morec0 2 года назад +341

    The funniest thing for me about the "lacking skeleton" in the Joker fight is that when I first played it, me and my brother both noticed it.
    "Huh, that's weird..." We both commented, but both decided to ourselves that it was due to an oversight. "Guess they didn't expect us to use detective vision in this part?"

    • @indepth9930
      @indepth9930 2 года назад +33

      Ah, this comment makes me nostalgiac, I played Lego Batman video games with my brother all the time when I was a kid, so many good memories.

    • @captainfach
      @captainfach 7 месяцев назад +27

      One of the most satisfying feelings for me in all of gaming is thinking that you've broken the system and then finding out that the devil's accounted for this and had the game World actually respond to it

  • @justcasually
    @justcasually 2 года назад +391

    "Unlike my girlfirend, satisfyingly filled with white light." I am in absolute awe at the writing chops on this guy.

    • @btchiaintkidding7837
      @btchiaintkidding7837 6 месяцев назад +7

      not sure why but i thought he was married, he probably made a wife joke or something in an older video

  • @TheMrGiannisgr
    @TheMrGiannisgr 2 года назад +572

    Arkham City is a game I’ll never forget. The experience was everything. It’s a true comicbook game.

    • @johnnymanning2952
      @johnnymanning2952 2 года назад +21

      exactly! me too this game is unforgettable

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Год назад +1

      Spider-man is better than any of those mediocre arkham games

    • @N-Khal
      @N-Khal Год назад +18

      @@Bungycb funny joke lol

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Год назад +2

      @@N-Khal truth hurts. The arkham games are mediocre

    • @N-Khal
      @N-Khal Год назад +12

      @@Bungycb I disagree

  • @sparklyjuicejuice
    @sparklyjuicejuice 2 года назад +53

    1:33:19
    The player walks up to a robot slumped over to the ground,
    looks above it
    to see that its lying infront of a store labeled "drug store"
    to which they zoom into the word "drug"
    and then look back down to shake their head at the robot.
    a brilliant visual comedy in less than 15 seconds that doesn't even get mentioned once in the 3 hour runtime of the video.
    Bravo.

  • @davidwithpizza9699
    @davidwithpizza9699 2 года назад +105

    This video felt like it was made for me. I probably played Arkham city way too many times. Last year I tried to 100% my save file. This involves doing the Riddler challenges not only in the campaign but also in the challenge mode. This goal of getting 100% made me learn the game inside and out. I discovered so many tiny details while playing the same battle arenas and stealth rooms over and over again. From 4 separate character perspectives. seeing this video bring up each individual detail this game has to offer made me glad that I wasn't the only one who is obsess with this game's world and mechanics.

  • @rye7839
    @rye7839 2 года назад +344

    Easily the best depiction of Riddler across any adaptation.

    • @shadowstrike234
      @shadowstrike234 2 года назад +138

      I hope Matt Reeves' Riddler breaks Batman, by making him hunt 12345.6 Riddler Trophies in the movie.

    • @dincanpierson
      @dincanpierson 2 года назад +46

      @@shadowstrike234 Would be fun if Batman cheated by googling the answers

    • @raidengoodman8754
      @raidengoodman8754 2 года назад +5

      I mean Gotham had a good riddler

    • @dincanpierson
      @dincanpierson 2 года назад +23

      @@raidengoodman8754 Well, it's quite difficult to compare a video game and a show. Gotham's riddler is way more developped, but I find it less..."comic book" than this one. It's not a compliment nor a bad thing, both are amazing

    • @rruhland
      @rruhland 2 года назад +6

      Wally Wingert knocks it out of the park, and just portrays so well the hubris that Riddler has coupled with the pathological need to be the smartest person in the world.

  • @stepkickking9868
    @stepkickking9868 2 года назад +1314

    I just cracked the biggest smile seeing this video in my sub box. Unfortunately I’m currently isolating due to covid, and I’m feeling incredibly rough. But, to have a three hour video from one of favourite content creators, featuring one of my favourite games? It’d be an understatement to say my mood just improved drastically. I can’t wait to watch this!

    • @Mazgid
      @Mazgid 2 года назад +26

      Hey tell us how you feel in day or 2 please, if everything ok

    • @Alex-ip1dn
      @Alex-ip1dn 2 года назад +7

      Hang in there! I hope you get better soon

    • @tmansimpson1
      @tmansimpson1 2 года назад +6

      @@Mazgid im on day 2, got a bad headache and tired

    • @don_4745
      @don_4745 2 года назад +1

      same

    • @MaxWasHere1337
      @MaxWasHere1337 2 года назад +7

      Dude I'm with you. Tested positive today but only have a cough. Hopefully that were the symptoms stop. Hope you get well soon!

  • @lol_vevo
    @lol_vevo 4 месяца назад +38

    "They have yet to release a product that didn't bleed with the interesting and the sepcial"
    Well this aged like a glass of milk with a Suicide Squad turd in it

  • @banane2279
    @banane2279 2 года назад +52

    God I loved Arkham City so much, the soundtrack occasionally hums in my head and I still remember how amazing it felt to play it

  • @jameshally1441
    @jameshally1441 2 года назад +651

    Nobody on this platform is doing it like white light. I feel like my IQ grows with every video. So well written, so proficiently edited. A guy who is so passionate about video games and is able to articulate his views to perfection in feature-length videos month by month. Absolute pro. Bravo

    • @AvalonisHere
      @AvalonisHere 2 года назад +11

      White light is cool, but he's no Action Button. Not necessarily a bad thing; none of us want to be Tim Rogers.

    • @lordofkings4877
      @lordofkings4877 2 года назад +9

      Dude imagine him doing like actual educational videos. Our IQ would increase x1000

    • @abrarshahid7509
      @abrarshahid7509 2 года назад +8

      You'll enjoy Noah Caldwell-Gervais

    • @ALL_that_ENDS
      @ALL_that_ENDS Год назад +3

      Oh hell yees you'll enjoy noah, now that's writing on an triple diamond expert level 11..

    • @theonlybilge
      @theonlybilge Год назад +3

      @@abrarshahid7509
      Didn't he blame his car getting broken into on Postal 2 and "toxic masculinity"?

  • @dirke4810
    @dirke4810 2 года назад +352

    Damn Whitelight you went all out, this is gonna be a treat to watch.
    Edit: Yep, a great analysis entertaining from the beginning to the end.

    • @junior1388666
      @junior1388666 2 года назад +7

      Better than most modern movies

    • @geoffdb8118
      @geoffdb8118 2 года назад +2

      All out white light is the 7 hour death stranding review 🤣😎

    • @andrewduong2740
      @andrewduong2740 2 года назад +1

      Whitelight, after releasing an afternoon's worth of a Death Stranding review: *"are you not entertained?"*

  • @terex8016
    @terex8016 2 года назад +27

    Arkham City was one of the games I got with my Christmas Xbox 360 in 2011/2012. It wedded me so closely to the characters and fantasy of batman, it sticks with me to this day

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Год назад +2

      Damn around the same time as me arkham city GOTY edition was the first game I got for my 360 along with split second.

  • @hundvd_7
    @hundvd_7 2 года назад +237

    1:07:45 One additional thing about the armored thugs. They're actually useful not just with the REC to knock down, but as a combo sponge.
    For other enemies, a full beatdown gives you maybe 3-5 hits to your combo, but when done on an armored one, each hit gives a combo point, resulting in somewhere around 20. That's 4 takedowns.
    This, alongside the REC combination makes me think that their purpose isn't to kill quickly, but to keep alive so that you can take out the others more effectively. Much like the Riddler informants, their purpose is to _not_ be killed early

    • @Bwoodlyy
      @Bwoodlyy 2 года назад +27

      If you were going for high challenge scores the armored enemies were usually last alive

    • @knightofberenike9633
      @knightofberenike9633 2 года назад +12

      There’s also the fact that they can pick up weapons off the floor like any other goon. An armoured knife man or stun baton boi can be a real pain in the ass.

    • @Z--..
      @Z--.. 2 года назад +23

      @@knightofberenike9633 Armoured knife dude turns himself into a free KO with the knife dodge counter

    • @CrimsonKnight77
      @CrimsonKnight77 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@knightofberenike9633 Armoured thugs can pick up bats (I think) and knives, but not stun batons. Stun batons are beaten by evading then striking (there are other ways but this is the most direct), and that doesn't work on armoured thugs. Similarly, they can't pick up shields because aerial attacks don't work on them either.

  • @EGRJ
    @EGRJ 2 года назад +57

    2:42:21 There's some serious hypocrisy in Ra's saying 'I don't give second chances' when he's an immortal who is literally standing in Wonder Tower, part of his greatest failure, an attempt to purge Gotham's criminals. Which happened again with Arkham City.

    • @cherrycola1144
      @cherrycola1144 2 года назад +15

      That’s the reason Ra’s is a villain.
      He could use his powers for serious good, he could influence the world in a more positive way. But he is so narcissistic he believes that his morality is the only true one.

  • @Max44321
    @Max44321 2 года назад +196

    Yay, more Whitelight! So glad to see more Prototype bits again

    • @Riftwalker84
      @Riftwalker84 2 года назад +5

      I actually heard a few Prototype 2 tracks used as background music.

  • @ianfaris4806
    @ianfaris4806 4 месяца назад +11

    Still waiting for the arkham knight video

  • @dualwieldroxas358
    @dualwieldroxas358 2 года назад +35

    You are a masterclass of wordplay, my friend. A lot of game analysis channels are serious and deadpan, but you are excellent at putting in puns, humor, real-world revelancy, and just are generally genuinely entertaining so a 7+ hour video on a game that i may not have personally enjoyed is enthalling and by the end, i wonder how it went by so quick

    • @icehoof
      @icehoof 2 года назад +3

      I completely forgot about his 7 hour review of death stranding, I might have to attempt to watch that again

  • @MissYamIherexxx
    @MissYamIherexxx 2 года назад +63

    2:50:05 - It should also be noted that Joker’s “reflection” doesn’t mirror Clayface, and he just kinda stands there

    • @elijahwatson3474
      @elijahwatson3474 2 года назад +11

      You can also hear and see the real joker cough and moved the camera when clayflace joker pretends to be the recovered one.

    • @oddball87
      @oddball87 2 года назад +17

      Not to mention that once the switch is made and Clayface starts doubling Joker, he never refers to Batman as "Batsy", or any of the other pet names the Joker has for him.
      It's a subtle enough detail that on a first playthrough, it's unnoticeable until it's pointed out.

  • @ravenwarjoy
    @ravenwarjoy 2 года назад +167

    I just wanna say, your writing is downright poetic, and I say that without a hint of exaggeration. And what is even more amazing is that it's poetic without sacrificing a bit of substance. You make analysis beutiful without making it shallow.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 2 года назад +13

      It’s excessive.

    • @zzodysseuszz
      @zzodysseuszz 2 года назад +5

      But it’s distinguishable as white light so whatever

    • @Starzoh
      @Starzoh 2 года назад +2

      Thought that said "your writing in downright pathetic"

    • @darks1d3rz16
      @darks1d3rz16 2 года назад +5

      @Mister Majestic Aight post a 3 hour Batman Arkham City analysis video that's better. go on, I'm waiting

    • @darks1d3rz16
      @darks1d3rz16 2 года назад +3

      @Mister Majestic I mean... it's true though? if it's so unimpressive, then why haven't you made something better? that's like never playing an instrument in your life and saying someone is bad at playing an instrument lmao
      and yeah, i'm still waiting.

  • @SuperBlaze117
    @SuperBlaze117 2 года назад +7

    You can skip the grate removal animation by sprint sliding into it

    • @cookieface80
      @cookieface80 2 года назад +3

      Took me way too long to figure that out.

  • @lntellectuaI
    @lntellectuaI 2 года назад +288

    I think we, as a gaming community, lack the depth of appreciation that this type of content deserves. The script alone, with its length, depth of insight and mastery of written word, is worthy of a whole book about the game, or at least of a comparable scientific study, not just a small review article. But more than that, the accompanying video and audio presentation makes it significantly more accessible for a person used to the modern style of streaming media. It’s the passion that unites the game developers and game players. I’m glad that in its peak it can be manifested in projects like this.

    • @kingsley3208
      @kingsley3208 2 года назад +18

      Like Whitelight you have said a lot here without saying anything. The prose is haphazard, your overall point unclear.

    • @manio_e
      @manio_e Год назад +6

      ​@@kingsley3208 idk i think it was pretty clear, talking about how the gaming community that support arkham city should put more effort into content with depth such as this, and how it should be appreciated more, like fan-made (or official) books about the game, scientific studies (not sure how that would work?) but not just a review, and the style of this video has incredible video and audio presentation, making it very accessible towards people that are used to modern streaming.
      The passion that made the developers create this game also united the players, and CDE is happy that that passion at its peak can be used in projects such as this, a one hour article with editing and stuff, etc.
      I could be wrong so correct me if i am but that's what i gathered.

    • @ASLUHLUHCE
      @ASLUHLUHCE Год назад +1

      @@kingsley3208 Brilliant.

    • @andreyu5640
      @andreyu5640 Год назад

      ​@Kingsley Ikr? I sometimes can't understand what's his point.

    • @tartatovsky
      @tartatovsky 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@andreyu5640maybe you and him need to be less of a pretentious fob then

  • @figgyswift8754
    @figgyswift8754 2 года назад +208

    looking back on your old vids on stuff like spider-man ps4, you've really changed as a content creator. I'm constantly learning deeper and intricate stuff about games I never would've payed attention for, thanks to your vids. cheers mate

  • @Coupi
    @Coupi 2 года назад +57

    you know it’s gonna be a good day when white uploads

  • @dustinhatfield8373
    @dustinhatfield8373 2 года назад +12

    I really appreciate your writing. You're a true master of clever quips and smooth Segways. There's a rhythm to your essays and your ability to maintain that rhythm for several hours worth of review/critique is truly commendable.

  • @lifeisgood5619
    @lifeisgood5619 2 года назад +8

    This review was tighter than that guy's mom on prom night

    • @SuperHns
      @SuperHns 2 года назад +4

      or the necks she snapped

  • @trumpflavourednugget9325
    @trumpflavourednugget9325 2 года назад +62

    My only disappointment is that this video wasn't longer. He didn't speak about Harley Quinn's Revenge (not that there's much to say) or most of the side missions. Could've easily had another half an hour of this masterpiece of a video

    • @Theendman42
      @Theendman42 2 года назад +16

      Harley Quinn's Revenge seemed forced, Kevin Conroy seemingly was told "say everything with a deeper and slower voice," it was rather all over the place. I enjoyed being able to play as Robin in a freer setting than challenge maps, but it still wasn't that good for me.

    • @xaviorbufkin7250
      @xaviorbufkin7250 2 года назад +6

      @@Theendman42 yeah I don’t think he needed to talk about the dlc or the maps but I think he could have talked a bit on hush. That’s about it though best vid he has made so far.

    • @trumpflavourednugget9325
      @trumpflavourednugget9325 2 года назад +8

      @@xaviorbufkin7250 yeah I feel like hush and also the way that bane's and azrael's side quest were integrated as you progress through the story deserved some talking about.

  • @aliupsr
    @aliupsr 2 года назад +160

    ‘Wordless narrative’ is such a useful characteristic to fairly judge a piece of visual media that’s inferior plot wise but so enjoyable for ‘some reason’. That is the reason: storytelling via - atmosphere. That’s the answer to my “yeah, but…” when faced with a dismissive “bad plot.”
    Thanks for exploring the forest among the single obvious tree. Thanks for making people know why they like something; in order to know what they deserve. That’s how you build good taste.

    • @zerotwo6814
      @zerotwo6814 2 года назад +11

      I also felt that it is important to understand and acknowledge when a plot is back, but I still am in complete agreement with you here. There are times when a plot is just outright bad, but the overall experience is still very enjoyable, like most Godzilla movies or a dumb B-Movie like Lavalantula. A bad plot doesn't (and shouldn't) mean a bad experience.

    • @TetsuoSlade
      @TetsuoSlade 2 года назад +6

      I’d just say Asylum’s simple standalone plot where the hero takes down the villain is preferable to the mess that was Knight.

    • @madnessmp4
      @madnessmp4 Год назад +1

      @@TetsuoSlade "Mess" is not the way too put it. Arkham knight had a good story, it's just that people expected some side missions in city to lead up to something. It had one predictable plot twist and that's about the only real bad thing

  • @6364LEGACY
    @6364LEGACY 2 года назад +17

    The amount of love, passion, and editing that go into these videos are outstanding. Once again incredible job.

  • @alecthach8599
    @alecthach8599 2 года назад +23

    Been playing this game for over 10 years now, and I had never even thought or was able to comprehend the deeper elements and themes that this game has.. even tho I’ve played it for hundreds of hours. This masterclass of a video was able to elevate a top 5 video game favorite of mine, into another stratosphere with the deep and thoughtful insights. Whitelight, you truly are a magician with your script and your delivery is so elegant. Very, very well done.

  • @chrisschuber9149
    @chrisschuber9149 2 года назад +99

    The writing is fucking insane as always, WL.

  • @HaHa-pq2hb
    @HaHa-pq2hb 2 года назад +130

    I don’t think people appreciate how hard it is to write a script that not only fills the 3 HOURS that this video takes up, but to keep it entertaining yet informative throughout. Teachers will make up something for an hour that tires out both student and themselves, yet this man writes a script that takes up a whole 3 hours!!!!! Of course I haven’t watched it yet, but going off from the amount I’ve binge watched his previous videos for fun, I can tell this is going to be great!
    Hats off to you lad, for taking on such a massive game, and giving it the time it needs in a video. I have no doubt in my mind that this will be the best video to ever take on the widely loved Arkham city from a critical point of view.
    Well done.

    • @HaHa-pq2hb
      @HaHa-pq2hb 2 года назад +8

      And!!!! He also has to find enough gameplay footage to sustain three hours, trying to show off the best and worst of this game while consistently keeping it fresh and entertaining. This could result in boring footage that starts to drone on, but somehow he managed to keep it consistent. Not only that, but to play games over and over again on multiple play through not for the enjoyment, but to keep others entertained is extremely time consuming, and if I were him I would get burnt out extremely fast. But he still manages to pump out hours of play time just to satisfy the script and the people watching. 3 hours is more like 100 of his own.
      Great dedication.

    • @hotshotpc
      @hotshotpc 2 года назад +1

      I recently tried doing a retrospective / review for fun on Arkham Asylum. Having done it myself I have immense respect for these review channels because it takes so much time and effort to construct. My video ended up being an hour and 10,000 words. Getting all the footage, recording, writing, and putting it all together took me about 2 weeks. I can only imagine how long this took him being 3x as long and with much more detail and polish.

  • @DaVideo17
    @DaVideo17 2 года назад +8

    2:49 Didn’t know Will Smith was one of the devs. Good to see him branching out into other career paths.

  • @nandagopalharikrishnan3064
    @nandagopalharikrishnan3064 2 года назад +54

    The 5 armed guys at 24:27 can be easily defeated using the REC there is a generator beside them and when used to your advantage, they will be instantly disarmed

    • @mallman23
      @mallman23 2 года назад +3

      I was going to say that

    • @chardy8683
      @chardy8683 4 месяца назад

      After that whole 3 hour video, THATS what you took away from this? 😂

    • @nandagopalharikrishnan3064
      @nandagopalharikrishnan3064 4 месяца назад +2

      @@chardy8683 Would you rather want me to comment a 2000 word essay on what I took away from this 3 hour video ?
      I just gave an observation that I thought could add value :) .its objectively more efficient to take them out using the REC than the method used by Whitelight.

  • @kieranduffy3434
    @kieranduffy3434 2 года назад +96

    Arkham City is a masterclass of a game. It certainly needed a truely talented creator like Whitelight to go into why it succeeds in almost every single way.

    • @kieranduffy3434
      @kieranduffy3434 2 года назад +1

      @Christian Stewart Yeah I agree bud. That moment was brilliant. I remember it taking me by surprise back in the day too.

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Месяц назад

      Spider-man is better than any of those mid arkham games

  • @pivos111
    @pivos111 2 года назад +124

    I just can't explain how clever his writing is. Yes we've all seen the X hours critique videos or the huge review X years later. But there is not a single smoother and to the point reviewer than Whitelight. I still can't understand how he is able to go from full poetic to epic chill-giving explanation to the most funny and outrageous memes while keeping a strange face and in such consistency. Bravo my man, you are my favorite channel currently on YT! You deserve a break! And some time for the girlfriend to get full of whitelight like that museum!

    • @AliBazz
      @AliBazz 2 года назад +1

      I cant tell you how many times i rewind ten seconds cause da dude sounds like an ai, sounds like hes sayin one big word for 3 hours, da dude really needs to improve his crap

    • @AVWUVU
      @AVWUVU Год назад +1

      @@AliBazz Sounds like you're just incompetent.

    • @AliBazz
      @AliBazz Год назад +1

      @@AVWUVU nah he really needs to improve his presentation, if you support him on patreon or whatever, tell him bout me so he knows, like screenshot dis comment know m sayin

    • @karanvirsingh7829
      @karanvirsingh7829 Год назад +4

      ​@@AliBazzyeah he needs to take some pointers on presentation from those masterpieces you've uploaded

    • @AliBazz
      @AliBazz Год назад

      @@karanvirsingh7829 😒

  • @mljesus7743
    @mljesus7743 2 года назад +9

    This was incredible.
    The “Master not a stronger student” is a top tier quote

  • @PsychoPatYT
    @PsychoPatYT 2 года назад +21

    Imagine being a dev from Rocksteady watching this. I struggle to think of other love letters of this caliber.

  • @rahulshuvin5332
    @rahulshuvin5332 2 года назад +33

    The production value on this is absolutely INSANE. Whitelight proving once again why they are one of the best channels on RUclips.

  • @mht2315
    @mht2315 2 года назад +29

    Great video! I never quite realized how much atmosphere mattered in this game. Also didn't know about the aerial attack on the Abramovici twins. Though there are some things you didn't mention that I thought deserved a spot in the video:
    -Azrael
    -Calendar Man
    -Riddler's physical challenges
    -Challenge mode
    -The City stories unlocked through the riddles
    Out of all these, I was really expecting a spotlight for the challenge mode, since it spins things up a little, making your overall objectives change, being achieving a high score or completing certain assigned tasks. Additionally, it also makes armored thug beatdowns actually useful, being optimal for increasing your combo quickly.
    Lastly, I know the video wasn't completely focused on the story, but if anyone is still confused about the whole Joker blood poisoning and stuff, I'd recommend seeing ClownPuncher139's "Does Batman Have Bad Blood?" video, it's quite a fulfilling theory.

    • @Theendman42
      @Theendman42 2 года назад +4

      I'm more surprised they have the same blood type, ha. Joker wouldn't need to have bad blood to kill Batman pumping him full of the wrong blood type.

    • @mht2315
      @mht2315 2 года назад +3

      @@Theendman42 well, that's something the theory covers. They do have different blood types, that's why batman gets progressively worse throughout the game (or the wonder city section), and taking that sip of Lazarus actually cured him permanently of that. The disease, though, was still there.

    • @rudolfambrozenvtuber
      @rudolfambrozenvtuber Год назад +1

      In my limited experience of him, ClownPuncher suffers from the "defending the story by finishing it for the writers" problem"

  • @thereisnobread1234
    @thereisnobread1234 2 года назад +18

    The fact that I had the pleasure of seeing a 3 hour long video analysis of Arkham city is not something I ever thought I would be able to acknowledge. Thank you for making this gem.

  • @JesterOfLoreTV
    @JesterOfLoreTV 4 месяца назад +7

    Soooooooo…Arkham Knight on the horizon?

  • @RetroBailey
    @RetroBailey 2 года назад +17

    Thank you for bringing up Sefton Hill!! First game director i was god damned obsessed with and actively searched out each interview of. Has such a phenomenal approach and passion for video games without needing to scream it just naturally comes out of him when he talks in a such a matter of fact kinda way.

  • @nicholasyeto
    @nicholasyeto 2 года назад +25

    This was an absolute masterpiece of a review. This is your masterpiece, as City is Arkham's masterpiece.

    • @Bungycb
      @Bungycb Месяц назад

      Spider-man is better than any of those mid arkham games

  • @mauriwegenderseife4290
    @mauriwegenderseife4290 2 года назад +8

    This is probably my favorite video you've ever done so far and the wait was truly worth it, thank you for this.

  • @technobabb4233
    @technobabb4233 9 месяцев назад +5

    1:41:10 That bit of editing and machinima is just... Such an absolutely masterful detail.

  • @somewhatrespectable
    @somewhatrespectable 2 года назад +15

    Man, Arkham City really brings me back to the good ol' days of the 360. Seriously can't wait to binge this vid, I'm sure it'll be as fantastic as ever

  • @jordanadams9804
    @jordanadams9804 2 года назад +58

    Heck yea this is one of my favorite games of all time!! So glad to finally see you cover it and I'm super excited to watch this. Thank you god king Whitelight. Love your vids man

  • @jeremyabrahamson2872
    @jeremyabrahamson2872 2 года назад +42

    I disagree with your point on act 2, I think it was the most sympathetic part of the game. The added tension of the timer overhead really got me into the mood. And I think the game would have been objectively less rewarding without the timed busywork.

  • @RahatAzim998
    @RahatAzim998 8 месяцев назад +4

    I love how he uses the Majula theme at 1:25:30 . Real recognize real. DS2 my beloved.

  • @v0Xx60
    @v0Xx60 2 года назад +16

    "And unlike my girlfriend, satisfyingly filled with white light". It took me about 2 seconds longer than it should have to get that, but that is some top shelf self-burn. Bravo.

  • @Ledixy
    @Ledixy 2 года назад +143

    Every game discussion is ruined for me after finding your channel. Seriously the effort invokes awe.
    Constantly.

    • @lordofkings4877
      @lordofkings4877 2 года назад

      When someone mentions mirror's edge or any of the games whitelight has commented. I just casually roll up my sleeve :d

    • @Ledixy
      @Ledixy 2 года назад

      ​@@lordofkings4877 Same, I instantly remember the elegance of the opinion being laid out even the jokes are so on point they make me laugh and then admire uncontrollably at the same time :D

  • @keepingcompany8196
    @keepingcompany8196 2 года назад +6

    Your videos are some of my favorite on the entire internet! I love listening to these reviews while I game, and constantly find myself wondering just how much time/energy you spend on each and every one. The way you talk and use language to get your point across is just gold, like you're flexing your ability to put words to a page with every line ❤️

  • @gosc111
    @gosc111 10 месяцев назад +4

    That intro was so beautifully written. Hooked me while keeping your final assessment somewhat obscured.

  • @skribbleink83
    @skribbleink83 2 года назад +33

    I've literally been on a all things Batman binge the last week so this is perfect timing! Always top quality content

  • @vladmihai_
    @vladmihai_ 2 года назад +10

    He's done it again. The effort you put into these videos is absolutely insane.

  • @TickleMeSenpai
    @TickleMeSenpai 2 года назад +4

    1:31:35 best line in the history of spoken words😂 you are a true inspiration, these videos are incredible and you should be proud

  • @ImElMounstro
    @ImElMounstro 2 года назад +24

    This video itself is a masterpiece, and does feel like something of a Magnum Opus for you and the channel. Worth every minute.

  • @ironbaysqiureg4827
    @ironbaysqiureg4827 2 года назад +43

    When it comes down to characters like red hood and punisher they have a lot of meaningful things that people tend to not understand.
    I mean one of the biggest elements that makes the red hood such a great story line is how much it actually holds a lot of truth against Batman's moral code.
    But that all falls apart when Jason Todd's the arkam knight in a world were jokers dead.

  • @MrTup9991
    @MrTup9991 2 года назад +5

    I swear you make the best game commentaries hands down. Funny, educating and an absolute joy to watch. Continue like this and we will keep watching!

  • @sebb.jimenez
    @sebb.jimenez Год назад +9

    When I first played Arkham city. I thought it was just gonna be a sequel better than the first but the more I played. I didn’t expect Arkham city to be one of the best experiences I’ve ever experienced in a video game. The game is a masterpiece and I’ll always go back to it. I already 100% the game twice. This game will always hold a special place in my heart

  • @Bwoodlyy
    @Bwoodlyy 2 года назад +5

    YOU EVEN END THE VIDEO ON THE SONG!! Mr.Light you’ve outdone yourself with this one. Worthy of the game you’re talking about. I can tell you loved making this video as much as Rocksteady did with City. Astonishing video man holy shit I can’t praise you enough. Massive, earth shattering W.

  • @chitranshusingh3921
    @chitranshusingh3921 2 года назад +21

    I love these long format videos as noone else is doing this and pitting this much effort in a video. keep up the good work

    • @madalindragan9569
      @madalindragan9569 2 года назад

      try Luke Stephens if you don't know him!

    • @dafeels3085
      @dafeels3085 2 года назад

      also try Joseph Anderson

    • @chitranshusingh3921
      @chitranshusingh3921 2 года назад +1

      @@madalindragan9569 thanks for the suggestion

    • @chitranshusingh3921
      @chitranshusingh3921 2 года назад +1

      @@dafeels3085 thanks for the suggestion too

    • @JustAJAG
      @JustAJAG 2 года назад

      Also Raycevick and (at times) Pyrocynical!

  • @Drone_21
    @Drone_21 2 года назад +5

    Wow... Finishing this video felt like finishing Arkham City for the first time again. One of the best videos i've ever seen on my life. This Whitelight guy is truly amazing

  • @Jaymez2012
    @Jaymez2012 2 года назад +22

    The point of so many other game's copying Arkham's systems really hits home when considering how much this industry has stagnated since then. Too many triple A games are trying to chase trends instead of making their own innovations. There isn't enough genuine experimentation going on these days for the sake of safe sales numbers. More and more importance being placed on things being at a larger scale without appreciating what games can still do when taken at much smaller, focused scales, and as a result, less passion shines through.

    • @gabsnandes7818
      @gabsnandes7818 2 года назад +2

      It's more common than you imagine, it's an interesting occurrence that happens in every single industry, someone innovates with a new trend, it works, people copy, that becomes incredibly saturated, someone innovates and the circle continues, in the gaming industry there is a few things I can put on that mold, the mascot craze, (aka: sonic, Mario, bubsy and many others), the gears of war clones, WW2 shooters, the FNAF type game, games including building and crafting because of Minecraft, making games triple A today is more expensive and time consuming than ever, people want big, and the problem is that companies are greedy, so keeping some semblance of what works is almost a given and not just copy and paste because it is popular, companies want to play it safe to maximize profits, unfortunately for every successful innovation there are multiple failed attempts and having a multi million dollar failure is not viable

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Год назад

      Spiderman fans coming out of the woodwork disagree and say this combat system was inspired by Spiderman 2 from 2004.

  • @44444444443333333222
    @44444444443333333222 2 года назад +35

    The Arkham series was one of the standout videogame franchises of my childhood, and even to this day I'll play through it annually. These reviews have been excellent so far, encapsulating every positive and negative I've felt over the years. Can't wait to hear what you think of Origins and Knight in the future.. or not if you'd prefer to move on. It's always a nice surprise to get a video from you, regardless of its subject.

    • @jdog14976
      @jdog14976 2 года назад +2

      The fact that Knight is a consensus 8.5-9/10 and considered the worst game in the series is a triumph in-and-of itself. The Arkham series is almost unassailably brilliant.

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Год назад

      @@jdog14976 Passion and love for the character and his world bleeds through each installment.

  • @ricioly
    @ricioly 2 года назад +10

    This is my favourite game ever, I pley it yearly. Ironically I started playing it again TODAY and now I see your video. What a time to be alive

    • @bengough6772
      @bengough6772 2 года назад +1

      Gonna finish asylum....then start City again:D great game

  • @shooterman2535
    @shooterman2535 2 года назад +9

    Arkham knight definitely had less memorable world detail and levels, however the visuals and the atmosphere felt when gliding through the rain and dive kicking a group of enemies only for them to panic because you are Batman is unmatched.

    • @zachary6701
      @zachary6701 Год назад

      Ive seen people talk about the environmental easter eggs in that game are far more than any other game Arkham game just to add as well, i think knight is critiqued too harshly.

  • @krishp1104
    @krishp1104 2 года назад +3

    Found this channel by accident after playing Arkham City for thr first time and I'm glad to say it was worth my time

  • @Kaelruen
    @Kaelruen 2 года назад +6

    I found this channel from the original prototype review being recommended to me ages ago and you keep consistently hitting the mark. Absolutely huge shoutout to those effects and cgi folks who contributed because they're godamn stunning. Can't wait to chew through this review over the coming week!

  • @KingQwerty
    @KingQwerty 2 года назад +4

    1:36:51 "We all know Arkham City is bleeding with atmosphere, but what about Arkham City", this is the one error I picked up on.

    • @Whitelight
      @Whitelight  2 года назад +5

      That was intentional. Arkham City, as in referring to the game. Arkham City, as in the city itself.

    • @KingQwerty
      @KingQwerty 2 года назад +3

      Oh shit whitelight responded to me best day ever, and bet now I get the self referential statement in context as two things

  • @Eterco
    @Eterco 2 года назад +7

    I've always loved the way Whitelight paced and delivered his videos

  • @grzegorzprzewozniak5092
    @grzegorzprzewozniak5092 2 года назад +5

    1:39:37 Yes, we absolutely know what you mean. The thing most of my favorite games have in common is exactly this hardly definable characteristic called atmosphere. In my opinion a well designed scenery is what allows players not to get bored while seemingly nothing of importance is happening and the less time a player spends bored, the more fondly they remember a game making them more inclined ot call it a masterpiece as we see in the case of the Arkham games.
    Traversing the Arkham games' worlds is like a drug to me. It is sightseeing at it's finest. Truly a masterfully crafted series.

  • @mukulnag1578
    @mukulnag1578 2 года назад +4

    Love the slick dilivery and the script .
    You are the best game retrospective youtuber ... That video in it self was a masterpiece

  • @JoshGolus
    @JoshGolus 2 года назад +25

    My friend, I remember discovering you during the Darksiders 2 era. Seeing you come into your own like this leaves me feeling all your effort truly was worth it, even if as a creative, it sometimes doesn't. I know that feeling. But also know that you have become strong and wise, and I am very proud of you.

    • @nestormelendez9005
      @nestormelendez9005 2 года назад +2

      Similar situations I saw his darksiders 2 video and said heck no someone made a 3 hour video on a game I unexpectedly enjoyed

  • @mZwerghamster
    @mZwerghamster Год назад +5

    I am so hype for a potential Arkham Knight video. So much to unpack~

  • @marwanzyada4271
    @marwanzyada4271 2 года назад +4

    Genuinely one of the best videos I have ever seen in my entire life.
    I genuinely can not wait for the next video and will replay this game immediately.

  • @aquamarine3698
    @aquamarine3698 2 года назад +4

    Oh my, the review that I didn't know I needed. Thank you for all the work Whitelight, much love from France !

  • @kenkaeso9262
    @kenkaeso9262 2 года назад +3

    Wow this is amazing... Just 2 hours ago your channel popped up in my mind again after not watching you for about a couple months now. As I'm finishing the Mirror's Edge video, you upload this right after. That timing is crazy.

  • @catfishGentleman
    @catfishGentleman 2 года назад +5

    your vids are always perfect, and they help me think critically, so thanks!

  • @jacobwebb7706
    @jacobwebb7706 2 года назад +7

    This was incredible. I was always engaged and even when getting very technical, I was fully invested. I've just relived a game I played so long ago with a whole new mindset. This is one of the best videos I've watched. Bravo

  • @davidrevillii5353
    @davidrevillii5353 2 года назад +4

    Three hours?!!
    Well, better get some popcorn then.

  • @keepcoolgames5896
    @keepcoolgames5896 2 года назад +3

    Whitelight your the best for uploading content like this

  • @Whiteythereaper
    @Whiteythereaper 10 месяцев назад +2

    I know I'm late, but Catwoman's Quickfire whip IS optional on the Trip or Disarm. Doing the Batarang Quickfire button automatically trips, while Batclaw combo Disarms, at least on Controller. I'm not sure what the keybinds are for PC.

  • @invictine
    @invictine 2 года назад +4

    "As my girlfriend often tells me as I cry into my pillow
    'Its not about the scale of the detail its about how you use it'"
    Took me a second to get it, but this is absolute gold.

  • @magictriangle6878
    @magictriangle6878 2 года назад +3

    This video oozes quality man. You flow words and jokes so effortlessly. I don't think I've seen Arkhams combat look so stylish and hilarious either

  • @GhostGuardianXZ
    @GhostGuardianXZ 2 года назад +2

    I’ll say it now. You’ve unknowingly helped me beat games and past parts that had me stuck for days

  • @ronanmates7812
    @ronanmates7812 Год назад +2

    i can easily say, that's 3 hours of my life i'm not getting back, and boy i'll happily spend those 3 hours again. love your videos!

  • @bucket6160
    @bucket6160 Год назад +2

    What a fucking video, holy shit.
    I have had a deep love for the Arkham games my entire life, but I would never have been able to point out all of the amazing details and the connective tissue of this title like you did. I felt like someone sat me down and carefully, dramatically and entertainingly explained all the reasons my brain produces barrels of dopamine every time I engage with the Arkham games. An absolute ride.

    • @Frogman1212
      @Frogman1212 Год назад +1

      Will we get a free copy of Arkham City with the pony?

  • @ScOrPiOnE905
    @ScOrPiOnE905 2 года назад +2

    Fantastic essay! It's difficult to describe how much I love your videos, and how impressed I am that someone makes such good content that I'd spend hours listening to them speak, appreciating all the metaphors, wordplay etc., the cinematography, (so many shots felt incredibly well placed especially the first chess pieces shot along with the narrative was superb) looking forward to the next one even before I've finished the current one. Thank you for all the work dedicated to these projects, even before clicking on this one I had a hard time imagining just how much time and effort it took, and dreaded how long it will take until I'd see the next one.
    Thank you for all that you do, Whitelight!

  • @faqqyafkhari3196
    @faqqyafkhari3196 2 года назад +5

    I really miss your review cause its long enough for me to listen while playing minecraft. but interesting and lots of good points that i can sometimes stop and think.

  • @rena10009
    @rena10009 Год назад +4

    bruh this dude carries out the joker's corpse instead of his dead girl...

    • @27mclaren
      @27mclaren Год назад +1

      My guess is the Leagues assassins probably took her body. That's how Ra's always comes back. It's been awhile since I've played the game but if i remember correctly, should you go and look for his body on the gate it's gone but his sword is still there or something like that. Fact check me but I'm almost certain there is something like that in the game.

  • @WinterWearWolf
    @WinterWearWolf 2 года назад +7

    This is in my top 3 games of all time. I enjoyed every second of this video!

    • @johnnymanning2952
      @johnnymanning2952 2 года назад +1

      Me too

    • @baki484
      @baki484 Год назад +1

      It's my favorite game of all time with asylum coming close second.