He's really not the main point is more NBA players could play football than NFL players could play basketball. NBA players are strategic just because they flip doesn't mean they're soft they are just taking advantage of the rules
@Ac3Badger honestly, we can go scientifically. Their anatomy does not fit the successful football player. They are too tall, too lanky they get hurt similarly to a qb from a direct hit. They'd get destroyed by a Fred Warner, Bobby Wagner, or even a T.J Watt or Myles Garret. Point is i don't believe there's 30 NBA players that can be a NFL player. Draymond I can see, Zion I can see but none of the 7 footers, 6'9-6'10 maybe if they are on the line but their center of gravity would be against them.
For those too young to know, there waa a FSU QB named Charlie Ward who played PG on their basketball team as well. He excelled at both. He could have played in the NFL and the NBA.
The highest level of football most nba players have played is high school. Theres a lot of nfl players (especially TEs) have played basketball at a college level
And none of them won player of year. Whereas Charlie Ward won the Heisman at FSU. More athletic players are told from a middle school/HS age to put the pads away and focus on their basketball stock because it is the smarter route if one can make both the NFL and NBA.
@@concertvids34 there’s a lot of Heisman players who didn’t make it in the NFL either. NFL isn’t college. Everyone is elite. In college you play against teams that may have one or two guys on their squad that have a chance to get to get to the league. In the NFL you’re playing against elite athletes and players every single week. The absolutely best
@@vincew4297 just as college basketball has a lot of top players get drafted and not play past 1 year in the pros. But there isn’t one NFL player who had close to the level of success in college basketball that Charlie had in College Football. This is because any dual athlete player with real potential in both sports chooses the security and safety of basketball over football. Heck even solid D3 players I know can make good money overseas balling.
@@jragland15 nice try but no lmao a lot of them grew up playing both but got a scholarship to play basketball and decided to switch to football instead
Randy Moss, one of the truly elite WRs in NFL history and HOFer, was 6'4" 210 (shooting guard size). His high school basketball team included Jason WIlliams (White Chocolate) who played in the NBA. Moss thought he could hoop but after some embarrassing pickup games against guys trying to get a foothold in the NBA, he humbly focused on football.
Belichick also said he was one of the smartest players he ever coached. A lotnof gys have come in the NFL with Randy's size fans speed but you gotta be more than a good athlete to make it in the sport.
@@sdfishinn Well what else position would a NBA player translate to and be productive. EVERY player in the NBA would have to be a WR, TE, QB, or CB to stand a small chance at productivity. I don't think there's a 300lbs NBA player. If so, he's the only one that could be productive.
You tripping. I saw Shady play in high school days. He was the number one football player in the country since 10th grade. He just stopped playing basketball. He had basketball scholarships off his Jr high years lol. You got to do more research before making crazy statements like that
To say all NBA players would quit once they took their first hard hit is just as ignorant as saying all NFL players do is catch the ball and run north and south. Some NBA players would get accustomed to the hard hits and some would quit. People adapt and I'm sure some NBA players would be able to and some would not.
@@my-1903have you ever seen him dribble a ball? Basketball aint just about being atheletic . Football some players can get by on being great athelets like the RB position. What is the Skill if yours faster snd stronger than everyone,?
@@alexjones1496Then how Michael Jordan’s son didn’t make it into the NBA? Just because your father is a former player and head coach doesn’t mean you can make it into the league just by being his son
In reality 70% of the NFL players are immediately cut trying to make it to the NBA..if your 5-11, 6-0,6-1, 6-2, 6-3 in the NBA you must be extremely skilled for the most part.
@@vincew4297 bro are you insane? It’s the exact opposite. The average NFL football player is faster and stronger than even the most athletic NBA players.
Crazy catch radius for some of those NBA players if thrown in NFL. Ant Edwards could def play some TE or work the slot as a WR. It might be 3 NFL players who might be nice enuff to make an NBA roster?
@@1RobertSmith nooo only like maybe 1% of them are physical enough also they would only be able to play WR or TE deaaron fox and westbrook are only ones that have the speed to even consider playing WR
@@1RobertSmith just cause they played football in high school & might have been pretty good doesn’t mean they would have been good enough to make it to the nfl. Plus nfl physicality is leagues above high school football
James Jones loves talking about "respect our sport", then is all laughs and giggles when Shady says, "I can't be patrick beverley?" and proceeds to demean the role PatBev and a lot of other basketball players play on certain teams that help them win. Just for some perspective, Aaron Donald was one of the most intimidating dudes when he stood on the field, but hes shorter than Patrick Beverley. Shady may have been nice in high school basketball, but PatBev also averaged 40ppg, he wouldnt even be able to guard Thanasis let alone the guys Pat Bev guards on a nightly basis. If I were to throw Anthony Edwards in the NFL and DK Metcalf in the NBA, I think AntMan would find more success not just because of physicality, but because I think the fundamentals of basketball are more extensive than football and will translate better.
I thought Austin Rivers was wrong first, but he actually made a legit case. He named jimmy graham, Antonio Gates, and even Rico Gathers from his class. I thought he sounded ridiculous at first, but I’m starting to agree. I don’t know about 30 NBA players right now but I would say at least 10.
I disagree. Most of the dudes played football in high school. Calling them soft because they flop is irrelevant. They are trying to sell calls to get the other team in trouble. If they were playing football, they would expect to get hit. They would get used to the terrain as all human adapt. With basketball, you actually need skills that can't be taught.
These dudes in they feelings. Fact is there are way more body types the transfer to NFL from the NBA than vice versa. Where is the guy that never played in college and became and NBA hall of famer like Antonio Gates. ? Remember he said 30 out 450 , it may be players most NBA fans dont know
@deciuswtasby There was a couple more after so more research. There was guy name Ray Seals who played basketball in college and played in the NFL and a guy who ran track who played in the NFL and never played football. Also there have been a couple kickers who played soccer and a guy who played baseball. What you're not find , is someone who played football in college and no basketball then they played in the NBA. Because basketball is a more skilled sport.
@@soda8736, Mo Allie Cox, TE on Indianapolis Colts was a very good college basketball player. In fact he was originally planning to go pro in the NBA, but decided on football instead. He was a better college basketball player than he was a college football player. Yet he still chose the NFL. Why? I don’t know the answer, but my guess is because he saw a better opportunity for success in the NFL. He probably knew the talent pool in the NBA would delegate him to sitting on the end of some NBA teams bench scratching and clawing for mop up minutes.
That wasn't what they said, though. Austin Rivers said that he could take 30 players right now without any training and just dump them on an NFL roster, which is just being plain ignorant.
@@quizewalker7936 Westbrook would be pretty good in the NFL as a safety or WR. Antman would probably be pretty good too at WR. And of course a younger LeBron would be the perfect receiving tight end (not a blocker of course).
@blackanimelover18 maybe ant but if this was to happen fa real who gonna let him get off the LOS. he would get jammed at the line immediately. But still maybe, but Austin Rivers himself would not last at any position in the NFL. Let say he plays safety and DK Metcalf is in the area. lol Who winning.
@@blackanimelover18 westbrook probably has the best chance although it would take him a while ant man is too big and not fast enough he would get jammed 🔐
The amount is wrong, but there are more NBA players who could play in the NFL than NFL players being able to play well in the NBA, but thats not what he said so he is wrong on what he said for sure.
I think you really have to love football to play that type of sport, but if you are good enough in both, most would pick basketball ball over football to play. It's just better overall, more money, your body can last longer, less risk of career ending injury. This is the nice version. The diss version is most NFL players weren't good enough to play basketball that's why they are in the NFL.... randy moss could've played in the nba but he would've had an average career like Austin rivers type of career, I can't say the same thing about Austin rivers. Austin rivers can probably make a teams special team. Due to the high volume of players in the NFL, I do think 30 nba players can probably make an NFL team 3rd string or something like that. Maybe a couple can make the starting lineup. Kawhi with his big hands could prob be a great WR
Austin Rivers was right. It's easier for NBA players to play in the NFL than the other way around. Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham, Julius Peppers, and several more.
@@swayzeproductions8475 it doesn't matter. NBA players still have a better chance of playing in the NFL. It's only 12 roster spots per team in the NBA. There's plenty of 3rd and 4th string players on a NFL roster.
@@swayzeproductions8475 my bad. It's 15 spots in the NBA vs 53 spots on a NFL team. It's obvious which one is easier to make just by number of the spots.
Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Julius Peppers, all made the switch from basketball to football and they had interest in the college kid DJ Burns from NC State. Austin definitely has a point. There are no football players who have made the transition to the nba.
To be honest ive played both and ill say football was easier to play it just hurt more. But i will also say this dont underestimate basketball players they are very strong their bodies dont show their strength you will be very surprised.
Nba players can play safety, corners, receivers, linebackers , special teams , you have a lot of nfl players playing football because they was to small to play basketball. The average corner ,receivers safety 5'10 to 6' 200 to 210 the average nba guard- forward 6'2 to 6'8 200 to 225
The NBA players complain arguments are so goofy. The NBA has certain rules about contact and players try and exploit it. It's no different than how receivers constantly ask for pass interference calls.
LeBron James who was timed at 4.60 in the 40 yard dash at age 28 would be a fantastic TE. Ja Morant with his leaping ability and speed would be a great WR or CB. There are many NBA players that could athletically play in the NFL. It would take some time to get accustomed to the physicality and at least some NBA players would be able to get accustomed to the physicality and some would quit. It would be easier for NBA players to get accustomed to the physicality of the NFL than it would be for NFL players to develop their skills for the NBA.
Exactly like at muscle bound guys like Desmond bane, Corey Maggie, Maurice Evans or Derek fisher for example . They played high cardio sport just still have thick muscle insertions so imagine them lifting for football
Wow and yeah ask Nate Robinson when he tried to do "boxing" and yall know what happened. I love the NBA but NFL is a physical collinsion sport i could say maybe a few NBA players could make it. NFL players go through rigorous training camps every year i just cant see how to validate Austin Rivers statement.
I bet James jones wouldn't call James Johnson soft to his face he's a undefeated fighter NBA is way more popular than the NFL in the world thats why NBA is in the Olympics not the NFL
Boxing ain’t karate and karate ain’t boxing…in boxing, the first rule is to conquer your fear of being knocked out, in karate the first rule is to not fight at all…football is like boxing…RESPECT THE GAME BECUZ FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE DIFFERENT
Funny Austin Rivers say that when a former carolina panthers player Devin Funchess became the first NFL player to sign an professional basketball contract
@@CarlGoat-ju9knWith the exception of Gates they played football in college. For the record Charlie Ward won the Heisman wasn’t drafted in the NFL and was drafted in the NBA first round played 11 seasons.
I don't think theres 30 football guys that can come into the NBA. Mfs would have zero ball skills & IQ more than likely. With football you can go play corner, WR, safety etc. Alot of positions u can play. Basketball you either got it or u don't lol if im bad @ RB then I can go try kicker, wr, DB, LB etc.
Jimmy graham and Hopkins literally played CBB and went to the nfl and had great careers even mo alie cox played 4 years of CBB and didn’t get drafted and is playing in the the nfl for the colts right now lmao and Charlie ward in the 1970s rlly bruh😂
But he not wrong...basketball is a more technical sport and football is the more pure athletic sport. Maybe not a full 30 but close to it. Antonio Gates is a good example. Fewer nfl players could be nba players, which i think is his point.
Most NBA players aren’t explosive enough to play in the NFL. Running fast on a hardwood surface in sneakers is a lot different than running fast on turf in cleats. Your place in the draft can be determined by literal fractions of a second from speed and agility testing at the combine.
If you spend 15 years training for a sport you’re going to be good at it In other words if NBA players spent 15 years training for football , and NFL players spent 15 years training to play basketball, a lot more NBA players would make it into the NFL than Vice Versa
@@therealfinancipation You can spend 15 years training for a particular sport and still not be good enough to make an NFL or NBA roster. There’s been dozens of prospects at wide receiver and tight end with similar dimensions to current NBA players that never saw the field because they either weren’t athletic enough or didn’t have it between the ears.
@@bagelboy4234you didn't comprehend that right but I'm here. Allen Iverson probably has the greatest highlight in high school ever lol played EVERY position. Nate Robinson as well. There's dozens of NBA players that can translate. My best WR to throw to my senior year was the SG on the bball team & that was his first year playing. He went to NC State off one year & he's never touched a football before that.
@@deciuswtasby wat u said just didn't even make sense. How does your brain go to that & not the correlation I'm making with bball players playing football? What u just said was irrelevant af because it's just a random thing to say.
Only 12 players on a NBA team and the world plays basketball.American Football is only played in the US. NBA players make more money than NFL players so why would a young man play American football if they can play basketball or the real football.
I mean a 21 year old prime shady McCoy could be athletic enough for the NBA, but we don’t know how skilled he is at basketball but at a pat bev role I could possibly see it happening.
dude, you're more likely to find 30 NBA players to play a skill position vs special teams. When Joy says football is a collision sport, special teams is collision to the extreme.
Jones was right. these are legal hits all the time. Rivers himself isn't doing it. Maybe some can but 30 is way too many. NBA players get hit on the arm and lay on the floor in pain.
Everybody mad at Austin Rivers but Jimmy Graham was a basketball player that didn't play football until his junior year in college and went on to be an all pro in the NFL. Antonio Gates was a college basketball player that went to the NFL and became and a HoF And Tony Gonzalez did the same. Now name me one football player that played college football as their primary sport but went to the NBA. Ill wait..
Why bc he can pass a basketball? That’s different from throwing a football 60 or even 40 yards in the air accurately with d lineman running at u u crazy bruh🤣🤣🤣
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jason kelce admitted himself that if any of the nfl players could play in the nba they would cause they make way more money so i believe 5-10 players in nba could play in nfl
Shady crazy he can't be bev! Rivers is right look at gates, peppers, Graham every college ball player I played with over 6'4 could hold their own as Tight end. That being said most ball players not trying take them hits. I thought I could play football I went out they put me at tight end was catching everything was running my mouth. Week later spring practice I got concussion woke up in ambulance never came back lol
@@gsp3428 yup! To this day I think peppers one of the greatest athlete ever. HOF in football and he would have started in the NBA and not 12 guy on the bench.
@@Bossiocuts Nah, Peppers was talented, he could have been on an NBA roster from what I remember. I dont think he was super skilled but was so strong and athletic. He was a Hall of Fame football player, much better at football, thats why he went to the NFL.
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Shady averaged 1.5 ppg his junior year in highschool on his JV team
Look him up
James Jones is 100% correct!!!
He's really not the main point is more NBA players could play football than NFL players could play basketball. NBA players are strategic just because they flip doesn't mean they're soft they are just taking advantage of the rules
@Ac3Badger honestly, we can go scientifically. Their anatomy does not fit the successful football player. They are too tall, too lanky they get hurt similarly to a qb from a direct hit. They'd get destroyed by a Fred Warner, Bobby Wagner, or even a T.J Watt or Myles Garret. Point is i don't believe there's 30 NBA players that can be a NFL player. Draymond I can see, Zion I can see but none of the 7 footers, 6'9-6'10 maybe if they are on the line but their center of gravity would be against them.
@@wolfkingtthat’s not true😂
@@truthtella3371if it isn’t true lol what’s your argument
@@truthtella3371it is…. You ever heard of low man wins?💀
I love when they discuss new topics like this instead of repeated Cowboys and LeBron James
But for the fact shady mentioned Lebron.
@@chubbybigtoe5777 the topic fam, like you need to realize, that wasn't the TOPIC
Omg I thought maybe I was the only one who felt that way
You do have college basketball players who made it in the NFL, but which college what college football players made it in NFL
And lakers
Bro nba players would have no knees after one Season lol
Dude those guys would fall apart after one game and ask for load management.
NBA players are the biggest 😻. They couldnt handle one play in the nfl
@@alexv5581 proof
And football players would look bogus in the nba
They'd take a slight bump and flop on the floor crying to the ref
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Right
For those too young to know, there waa a FSU QB named Charlie Ward who played PG on their basketball team as well. He excelled at both. He could have played in the NFL and the NBA.
@@seanswinton6242no he couldn’t lol he wasn’t even remotely close to being a nba player
The highest level of football most nba players have played is high school. Theres a lot of nfl players (especially TEs) have played basketball at a college level
And none of them won player of year. Whereas Charlie Ward won the Heisman at FSU. More athletic players are told from a middle school/HS age to put the pads away and focus on their basketball stock because it is the smarter route if one can make both the NFL and NBA.
@@concertvids34 there’s a lot of Heisman players who didn’t make it in the NFL either. NFL isn’t college. Everyone is elite. In college you play against teams that may have one or two guys on their squad that have a chance to get to get to the league. In the NFL you’re playing against elite athletes and players every single week. The absolutely best
That makes them basketball players tho.. if you hoop your whole life then switch to football after college you’re a hooper who can play football
@@vincew4297 just as college basketball has a lot of top players get drafted and not play past 1 year in the pros. But there isn’t one NFL player who had close to the level of success in college basketball that Charlie had in College Football. This is because any dual athlete player with real potential in both sports chooses the security and safety of basketball over football. Heck even solid D3 players I know can make good money overseas balling.
@@jragland15 nice try but no lmao a lot of them grew up playing both but got a scholarship to play basketball and decided to switch to football instead
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Randy Moss, one of the truly elite WRs in NFL history and HOFer, was 6'4" 210 (shooting guard size). His high school basketball team included Jason WIlliams (White Chocolate) who played in the NBA. Moss thought he could hoop but after some embarrassing pickup games against guys trying to get a foothold in the NBA, he humbly focused on football.
Facts … Randy Moss said he played Kevin Garnett 1-on-1 and quit in his mind after that
Belichick also said he was one of the smartest players he ever coached. A lotnof gys have come in the NFL with Randy's size fans speed but you gotta be more than a good athlete to make it in the sport.
@@sdfishinnWhat you said didn't make sense.
@@sdfishinn Well what else position would a NBA player translate to and be productive. EVERY player in the NBA would have to be a WR, TE, QB, or CB to stand a small chance at productivity. I don't think there's a 300lbs NBA player. If so, he's the only one that could be productive.
@@thelivetablehe also played with Chad Pennington
JJ went hard!
JJ watt went in too Lol
Pat Bev is closer to Lebron James than Shady will ever be to Pat Bev in basketball. Bro not even touching Thanasis
Exaggerated
None of them could ever be Shady McCoy!! R u dumb? What NBA player could be a HOF NFL player? None of them.
You tripping. I saw Shady play in high school days. He was the number one football player in the country since 10th grade. He just stopped playing basketball. He had basketball scholarships off his Jr high years lol. You got to do more research before making crazy statements like that
Bruh everyone know why Thanasis is still in the league. It's similar to Austin's case.
Would pay big money to see NBA players TRY to play against NFL Men , they better have the medic helicopters ready lol
I like this. Take "30" NBA players, 30 NFL players. One football game, one basketball game and see what happens...
Agreed 👍
@@kingphayce5778 u should pitch that idea to the right people. u on to something.
Yes I would, starting with rivers come on too the football field and show me
They would loose their knee caps they’re already load managing
Facts
He said 30 players, why does everyone think about the stars. ?
@@soda8736They didn’t think about that
There’s 82 games a season….dudes play 3-5 games a week.
I bet Ray lewis right now would destroy him in a tackling drill
I guarantee NO ONE in the NBA wants any part of Lawrence Taylor at his Height!!
Shady forgetting that Pat Bev averaged nearly 40 ppg in high school, he's better than what Shady thinks
And shady is 5'11
@@moneybagzlawson5147he can be closer to Kyle Lowry than Lowry can be a running back
he was referring to how he plays in NBA currently
@@macanthony1982 true, but if you put Pat Bev at a lower level he would look like God in sneakers instead of the annoying little pest he is now lol
Pat bev is trash 😂
Pat Bev averaged 40ppg against the best high schoolers in the Nation.. funny how people don’t understand the skill gap from D1 basketball to the NBA.
Austin River biggest contract came from his father when he was the Coach and GM when he was on the Clippers. Thats who Austin Rivers is
He was also like the number 1 player comming out of high school
@@soda8736so were a lot of players who cares, NBA isn’t a good league anymore
@@LevelSkipAnd the NFL is? Remember even GMs in the NFL get rid of/trade players
@@soda8736ALL HYPE.
@@soda8736 So
James jones wow
To say all NBA players would quit once they took their first hard hit is just as ignorant as saying all NFL players do is catch the ball and run north and south. Some NBA players would get accustomed to the hard hits and some would quit. People adapt and I'm sure some NBA players would be able to and some would not.
Shady you ain’t beating Pat Bev or Kyle Lowry you wouldn’t get the ball buddy stop
I mean a 21 year old shady McCoy could definitely be athletic enough to be in the NBA, but you’re mostly right he’s disrespecting pat bev a little
@@my-1903 go watch high school pat bev shady wouldn’t even beat tht pat bev . He averaged 40 literally
@@CargoCondorovertheroadhigh school 😂
@@my-1903have you ever seen him dribble a ball? Basketball aint just about being atheletic . Football some players can get by on being great athelets like the RB position. What is the Skill if yours faster snd stronger than everyone,?
There isn’t a single NFL player who could make a roster.. the mutual disrespect from BOTH sides is hilarious.
Rivers needs to ask Charles Barkley about football 😂😂😂
And Allen Iverson.
@@mistertaz94Iverson was very good at football tho
@@mistertaz94 iverson was the best high school football player in virginia EVER. you don't believe me. google him up
That's one fat guy's opinion
@@twizzy585otsin high school that’s not even close to college level let alone the nfl level
First to play in the football Turf itself is harder than playing with fresh Jordan in nice floor.
everyone's faces when JJ said "You barely made it in the NBA" XD
These dudes just be talking. RIvers was a top recruit coming out of hugh high school. Played 10 years in the NBA. Thats a 1 percenter
Dads name also had a factor. @soda8736
@@alexjones1496Then how Michael Jordan’s son didn’t make it into the NBA? Just because your father is a former player and head coach doesn’t mean you can make it into the league just by being his son
@user-lt1fx2he5s I didn't say he didn't have talent I said his dad's name was a FACTOR. Not the REASON why he made it as long as he did.
Pat averaged 40 in highschool, nba players can ball. If nfl players could do it they would get the bag in the nba.
Was waiting for this comment lol… NFL players would have trouble getting buckets at LA Fitness
They started off feeling disrespected and then disrespected the NBA.
The violence in the NFL is why basketball players couldn’t make it in the NFL.
You said in High School not the NFL
@@CharleyOlivesss those guys weren’t getting buckets in high school. What makes you think they’d be successful in the nba?
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He is not lying
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I could see several nba players having roles in the NFL. I don't see as many NFL players that could make an nba roster
In reality 70% of the NFL players are immediately cut trying to make it to the NBA..if your 5-11, 6-0,6-1, 6-2, 6-3 in the NBA you must be extremely skilled for the most part.
They wouldn’t have a role. They would have to get immensely bigger, stronger, and faster to even have a shot to make an NBA roster
@@vincew4297 bro are you insane? It’s the exact opposite. The average NFL football player is faster and stronger than even the most athletic NBA players.
@@borbafatt I meant NFL roster not NBA
@@vincew4297 bro, you had me for a second lol I was like there is no way this cat really thinks that
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Facts!!!
James Jones said what needed to be said 💪🏽🙌🏾🤷🏾♂️
I can see it from both perspectives both football and basketball
Nfl is a whole another animal. Not even close
😂😂 bro they don't even have try outs for high school football lol. It's no need too lol. Most the players won't make it past triple sessions.
The disrespect of Patrick Beverly is crazy.
Crazy catch radius for some of those NBA players if thrown in NFL. Ant Edwards could def play some TE or work the slot as a WR. It might be 3 NFL players who might be nice enuff to make an NBA roster?
& there’s 0 nba players that could make a nfl roster
You ignorant fool lol
TE or slot WR ? Do you even watch the NFL?
@@1Eashawty It's so many NBA dudes who were former football players, 8ts already in them. They chose the bigger paycheck
@@1RobertSmith nooo only like maybe 1% of them are physical enough also they would only be able to play WR or TE deaaron fox and westbrook are only ones that have the speed to even consider playing WR
@@1RobertSmith just cause they played football in high school & might have been pretty good doesn’t mean they would have been good enough to make it to the nfl. Plus nfl physicality is leagues above high school football
James Jones loves talking about "respect our sport", then is all laughs and giggles when Shady says, "I can't be patrick beverley?" and proceeds to demean the role PatBev and a lot of other basketball players play on certain teams that help them win. Just for some perspective, Aaron Donald was one of the most intimidating dudes when he stood on the field, but hes shorter than Patrick Beverley. Shady may have been nice in high school basketball, but PatBev also averaged 40ppg, he wouldnt even be able to guard Thanasis let alone the guys Pat Bev guards on a nightly basis. If I were to throw Anthony Edwards in the NFL and DK Metcalf in the NBA, I think AntMan would find more success not just because of physicality, but because I think the fundamentals of basketball are more extensive than football and will translate better.
I mean, Ant Edwards is the size of Calvin Johnson. If you put that into perspective.
No he's not lol. Calvin is bigger.
@@jakethethird1584 nah I even saw kobe in person dude was huge pause
@@jakethethird1584 Calvin is 230, 6'5. Ant 220 6'6.. Don't be that annoying guy
Size and ability aren’t the same thing
Ant is listed at 6'4 225, he'd be around the same size as Megatron if he picked football.
I thought Austin Rivers was wrong first, but he actually made a legit case. He named jimmy graham, Antonio Gates, and even Rico Gathers from his class. I thought he sounded ridiculous at first, but I’m starting to agree. I don’t know about 30 NBA players right now but I would say at least 10.
I really like James Jones lol. He's not playing with people with no more hahaha
😂😂 I know he’s just keeping it real.
I disagree. Most of the dudes played football in high school. Calling them soft because they flop is irrelevant. They are trying to sell calls to get the other team in trouble. If they were playing football, they would expect to get hit. They would get used to the terrain as all human adapt. With basketball, you actually need skills that can't be taught.
These dudes in they feelings. Fact is there are way more body types the transfer to NFL from the NBA than vice versa. Where is the guy that never played in college and became and NBA hall of famer like Antonio Gates. ? Remember he said 30 out 450 , it may be players most NBA fans dont know
Naming 1 player out or 100,000s over years isn’t a good example.
@deciuswtasby There was a couple more after so more research. There was guy name Ray Seals who played basketball in college and played in the NFL and a guy who ran track who played in the NFL and never played football. Also there have been a couple kickers who played soccer and a guy who played baseball. What you're not find , is someone who played football in college and no basketball then they played in the NBA. Because basketball is a more skilled sport.
@@soda8736, Mo Allie Cox, TE on Indianapolis Colts was a very good college basketball player. In fact he was originally planning to go pro in the NBA, but decided on football instead. He was a better college basketball player than he was a college football player. Yet he still chose the NFL. Why? I don’t know the answer, but my guess is because he saw a better opportunity for success in the NFL. He probably knew the talent pool in the NBA would delegate him to sitting on the end of some NBA teams bench scratching and clawing for mop up minutes.
Lou Dort and Isaiah Stewart for sure can play in the nfl
We have seen a number of tight end converts from b-ball .
And one never played football and became a hall of famer.
@@soda8736antonio gates
That wasn't what they said, though. Austin Rivers said that he could take 30 players right now without any training and just dump them on an NFL roster, which is just being plain ignorant.
Yea like handful. Rivers said 30 lol that’s not happening
I do think that a few NBA players could maybe play in the NFL if they put on some weight. But not 30 of ‘em
who and what position.
@@quizewalker7936 Westbrook would be pretty good in the NFL as a safety or WR. Antman would probably be pretty good too at WR. And of course a younger LeBron would be the perfect receiving tight end (not a blocker of course).
@blackanimelover18 maybe ant but if this was to happen fa real who gonna let him get off the LOS. he would get jammed at the line immediately. But still maybe, but Austin Rivers himself would not last at any position in the NFL. Let say he plays safety and DK Metcalf is in the area. lol Who winning.
@@blackanimelover18 westbrook probably has the best chance although it would take him a while ant man is too big and not fast enough he would get jammed 🔐
Same with football
Chris Carter whose first love was basketball publicly said he chose football because it was easier and became a hall of fame wide receiver lol
No nba player can handle the hits of the nfl all they do is flop on the court
What people don’t understand is that some of these nba players played football. Some at a college level but decided to play basketball.
Basketball players also feel like they can be rappers… how well has that worked out
At least alot of basketball players had similar backgrounds to rappers
Pat Bev catching strays per usual 😭
The amount is wrong, but there are more NBA players who could play in the NFL than NFL players being able to play well in the NBA, but thats not what he said so he is wrong on what he said for sure.
I think you really have to love football to play that type of sport, but if you are good enough in both, most would pick basketball ball over football to play. It's just better overall, more money, your body can last longer, less risk of career ending injury. This is the nice version. The diss version is most NFL players weren't good enough to play basketball that's why they are in the NFL.... randy moss could've played in the nba but he would've had an average career like Austin rivers type of career, I can't say the same thing about Austin rivers. Austin rivers can probably make a teams special team. Due to the high volume of players in the NFL, I do think 30 nba players can probably make an NFL team 3rd string or something like that. Maybe a couple can make the starting lineup. Kawhi with his big hands could prob be a great WR
Austin Rivers was right. It's easier for NBA players to play in the NFL than the other way around. Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Jimmy Graham, Julius Peppers, and several more.
No, those names you typed all played and started in D1 programs. This isn't valid. Rivers is thinking a random selection
@@swayzeproductions8475 it doesn't matter. NBA players still have a better chance of playing in the NFL. It's only 12 roster spots per team in the NBA. There's plenty of 3rd and 4th string players on a NFL roster.
@kifley19 lmao I can name people too. That's all you did. Now again, they all were two sport athletes!!
In DIVISION ONE.
@kifley19 4th string? Lmao....in that case several nfl players can certainly be a guy on the bench 😭😭😭🤣🤣
@@swayzeproductions8475 my bad. It's 15 spots in the NBA vs 53 spots on a NFL team. It's obvious which one is easier to make just by number of the spots.
Antonio Gates, Tony Gonzalez, Julius Peppers, all made the switch from basketball to football and they had interest in the college kid DJ Burns from NC State. Austin definitely has a point. There are no football players who have made the transition to the nba.
Get him JJ 💯💯
He spoke all facts.
To be honest ive played both and ill say football was easier to play it just hurt more. But i will also say this dont underestimate basketball players they are very strong their bodies dont show their strength you will be very surprised.
They needed an nba player on this panel
Nba players can play safety, corners, receivers, linebackers , special teams , you have a lot of nfl players playing football because they was to small to play basketball. The average corner ,receivers safety 5'10 to 6' 200 to 210 the average nba guard- forward 6'2 to 6'8 200 to 225
2:27 lmfao you can’t put 30 guys from the NBA in college football, let alone the NFL 🤣🤣🤣
The NBA players complain arguments are so goofy. The NBA has certain rules about contact and players try and exploit it. It's no different than how receivers constantly ask for pass interference calls.
LeBron James who was timed at 4.60 in the 40 yard dash at age 28 would be a fantastic TE. Ja Morant with his leaping ability and speed would be a great WR or CB. There are many NBA players that could athletically play in the NFL. It would take some time to get accustomed to the physicality and at least some NBA players would be able to get accustomed to the physicality and some would quit. It would be easier for NBA players to get accustomed to the physicality of the NFL than it would be for NFL players to develop their skills for the NBA.
Exactly like at muscle bound guys like Desmond bane, Corey Maggie, Maurice Evans or Derek fisher for example . They played high cardio sport just still have thick muscle insertions so imagine them lifting for football
Wow and yeah ask Nate Robinson when he tried to do "boxing" and yall know what happened. I love the NBA but NFL is a physical collinsion sport i could say maybe a few NBA players could make it. NFL players go through rigorous training camps every year i just cant see how to validate Austin Rivers statement.
Everybody face at 5:15 lol
Theres maybe like 5 from each sport that could successfully crossover and they all are in skill positions (WR, DB, RB, pg, sg)
I said about 7 or 8 players could play in the NFL
Play or excel……huge difference
Zyion Williamson can be a starting Tackle right now, he definitely has the eating habit for it 😂😂😂
😂😂😂
I bet James jones wouldn't call James Johnson soft to his face he's a undefeated fighter NBA is way more popular than the NFL in the world thats why NBA is in the Olympics not the NFL
Not true
Antonio Gates, Julius Peppers, Draymond Green, Nate Robinson, Charlie Ward ..
Oklahoma drill turned them into basketball players
Say it again
FACTS
Boxing ain’t karate and karate ain’t boxing…in boxing, the first rule is to conquer your fear of being knocked out, in karate the first rule is to not fight at all…football is like boxing…RESPECT THE GAME BECUZ FOOTBALL PLAYERS ARE DIFFERENT
Funny Austin Rivers say that when a former carolina panthers player Devin Funchess became the first NFL player to sign an professional basketball contract
In the nba?
Antonio gates and Deandre Hopkins and jimmy graham literally played basketball in college and were all pros in football lmao
@@CarlGoat-ju9knWith the exception of Gates they played football in college. For the record Charlie Ward won the Heisman wasn’t drafted in the NFL and was drafted in the NBA first round played 11 seasons.
I don't think theres 30 football guys that can come into the NBA. Mfs would have zero ball skills & IQ more than likely. With football you can go play corner, WR, safety etc. Alot of positions u can play. Basketball you either got it or u don't lol if im bad @ RB then I can go try kicker, wr, DB, LB etc.
Jimmy graham and Hopkins literally played CBB and went to the nfl and had great careers even mo alie cox played 4 years of CBB and didn’t get drafted and is playing in the the nfl for the colts right now lmao and Charlie ward in the 1970s rlly bruh😂
i agree with austin reeves. nfl is not as physical for wide receiver. grabbing can result in a flag foul
But he not wrong...basketball is a more technical sport and football is the more pure athletic sport. Maybe not a full 30 but close to it. Antonio Gates is a good example. Fewer nfl players could be nba players, which i think is his point.
All he was saying
There’s definitely 10 NBA guys that are though enough and skilled enough to play NFL next season
James is spot on
I kinda feel sorry for nfl players. Any smart person should wanna be an nba player at the end of the day
Most NBA players aren’t explosive enough to play in the NFL. Running fast on a hardwood surface in sneakers is a lot different than running fast on turf in cleats. Your place in the draft can be determined by literal fractions of a second from speed and agility testing at the combine.
If you spend 15 years training for a sport you’re going to be good at it
In other words if NBA players spent 15 years training for football , and NFL players spent 15 years training to play basketball, a lot more NBA players would make it into the NFL than Vice Versa
@@therealfinancipation You can spend 15 years training for a particular sport and still not be good enough to make an NFL or NBA roster. There’s been dozens of prospects at wide receiver and tight end with similar dimensions to current NBA players that never saw the field because they either weren’t athletic enough or didn’t have it between the ears.
@@bagelboy4234you didn't comprehend that right but I'm here. Allen Iverson probably has the greatest highlight in high school ever lol played EVERY position. Nate Robinson as well. There's dozens of NBA players that can translate. My best WR to throw to my senior year was the SG on the bball team & that was his first year playing. He went to NC State off one year & he's never touched a football before that.
@@MikkiChaveztalking about college when the conversation is about the NFL is comical
@@deciuswtasby wat u said just didn't even make sense. How does your brain go to that & not the correlation I'm making with bball players playing football? What u just said was irrelevant af because it's just a random thing to say.
Only 12 players on a NBA team and the world plays basketball.American Football is only played in the US. NBA players make more money than NFL players so why would a young man play American football if they can play basketball or the real football.
I mean a 21 year old prime shady McCoy could be athletic enough for the NBA, but we don’t know how skilled he is at basketball but at a pat bev role I could possibly see it happening.
😂😂😂
He said he can play. I heard him say it a while ago
Pat Beverly averaged 30 in HS. Shady couldn't be Pat Bev
LeSean McCoy is 5”11 GTFOH.
@5:10 has me in tears....😂😂😂
It's 30 nba players right now that can make a special teams. I promise u that.
dude, you're more likely to find 30 NBA players to play a skill position vs special teams. When Joy says football is a collision sport, special teams is collision to the extreme.
@@Hienieken half the people on special teams. Never even get tackled. Or u can just play defense.
@@iamdebaby8152”just” play defense 🤣🤣🤣. Like it’s easy
To make special teams you have to be on the depth chart.
Said by someone who has never played football special teams is the most Dangerous part
Austin Rivers spoke facts football players be so trash in basketball
Jones in his feelings on this one 😂
He is but he right tho. That was down right disrespectful
@@quizewalker7936he wasn’t right. But the running north & south part was disrespectful
Jones was right. these are legal hits all the time. Rivers himself isn't doing it. Maybe some can but 30 is way too many. NBA players get hit on the arm and lay on the floor in pain.
@@jayrukks8039100% right.
@@jayrukks8039 how isn’t he right? 30 NBA players would not make it in the NFL. Maybe 1-2 could possibly
Everybody mad at Austin Rivers but Jimmy Graham was a basketball player that didn't play football until his junior year in college and went on to be an all pro in the NFL. Antonio Gates was a college basketball player that went to the NFL and became and a HoF And Tony Gonzalez did the same. Now name me one football player that played college football as their primary sport but went to the NBA. Ill wait..
He is not wrong…
The NFL doesn’t have load management and there’s a reason the NFL season is a fraction of the NBA’s
Guys like Jason Kidd could’ve been QBs. Guys like Ronald Curry could’ve been PGs.
Why bc he can pass a basketball? That’s different from throwing a football 60 or even 40 yards in the air accurately with d lineman running at u u crazy bruh🤣🤣🤣
@@bbking3797watch Demar Derozan throw a football.
@@mrking1785 throwing a football in no pads and no defensive rush is not impressive 🤣🤣🤣
@@mrking1785a lot of guys can spin a ball….how many can “play” the position 🤔
Didn't an nba pg win a Heisman?
@@bbking3797
Exactly.. there's corners and safeties that can be elite defenders
Pat Bev ave 37ppg in high school...
They have no idea what they be talking about on here!
@@Btuck9007suprised Rick didn't come with some type argument. Mabye he's intimidated by these football dudes
82 GAMES END OF F CONVERSATION
Lmao dumbest argument. Do these players get hit 2.5 hours straight on? Gtfoh!
Get em Glo! Get em James!
The skill that's needed to be an elite basketball player is way more than to be a player outside of kicker and quarterback
You’ve never played at a high level and it shows 😆😆😆. Even OL have to be elite and skilled.
Name the 30 players
Lebron James
Aaron Gordon
Anthony Edwards
Russel Westbrook
Jalen Brown
Jalen Brunson
Dillon Brooks
Ja Morant
Pascal Siakam
Lu Dort
Marcus Smart
Pat Bev
Jalen Green
Zion Williamson
Donavan Mitchell
Draymond Green
Steven Adams
Giannis
Chris Paul
Kyle Lowry
Kyrie Irving
Tyrese Maxey
Shai G A
Damian Lillard
Jarret Allen
Bam Adebayo
Josh Hart
Alex Caruso
Jaden McDaniels
Nickel Alexander-Walker
Draymond was terrible at football u gotta be trolling 🤣🤣
@@TheCalifornian405 you don't know ball, buddy 😭😭😭
@@TheCalifornian405LMAO, no way dude, maybe 5 or 6 of them but all of them would be backups 😂
@@travesotom6890they still playing they never said they had to be stars.
bottom line, Giannis out there at 6'11 wr would be pretty OP
James Jones with the flame thrower 💯
James Jones was standing on BIDNESS!!!!🤣
Dumb business
@@soda8736ur breath smells like shii
@@soda8736log off sodapop
jason kelce admitted himself that if any of the nfl players could play in the nba they would cause they make way more money so i believe 5-10 players in nba could play in nfl
Carrying a ball 🏈 in far different then bouncing a ball 🏀
One takes skill one was dosent
@@soda8736by your logic you could be in the NFL but we know better
@@deciuswtasby did i say that. ?
Let’s bring fact’s into the chat. The only man with a high enough skill level in both sports is Charlie Ward.
They didn't do a good job defending this argument. It was the typical nba players are soft. NO talk about if NFL players could actually hoop.
I'm pretty sure Parsons would actually be decent.
Facts and Much RESPECT MR.Jones!!!
Name 10 players, please! Bruh football is for a different animal ( and 99.9% of the nba ain’t got that Dog)
James Jones is that dude. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Shady crazy he can't be bev! Rivers is right look at gates, peppers, Graham every college ball player I played with over 6'4 could hold their own as Tight end. That being said most ball players not trying take them hits. I thought I could play football I went out they put me at tight end was catching everything was running my mouth. Week later spring practice I got concussion woke up in ambulance never came back lol
Rivers should of said 10 players instead of 30 and that would of been more reasonable and less backlash 😂
Peppers could have played in the NBA, he was just better at football, the other two could not sniff the NBA.
@@gsp3428 yup! To this day I think peppers one of the greatest athlete ever. HOF in football and he would have started in the NBA and not 12 guy on the bench.
@@gsp3428peppers had zero chance playing in the NBA that’s why he took a pay cut and risked CTE by going to the NFL man.
@@Bossiocuts Nah, Peppers was talented, he could have been on an NBA roster from what I remember. I dont think he was super skilled but was so strong and athletic. He was a Hall of Fame football player, much better at football, thats why he went to the NFL.