Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/qa-wl8_wpZA/видео.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman Guest bio: Serhii Plokhy is a Ukrainian historian at Harvard University, director of the Ukrainian Research Institute, and an author of many books on history of Eastern Europe, including his latest book The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History.
The guy was technically a veteran of ww2, but this comes down to someone not doing their homework on the guy and assuming he was on the good side..... It's more dumb than anything. I wouldn't take this too seriously to be fair. People applauded someone who they thought was vetted, and didn't think he fought for the 20th century's biggest boogey man.
I am sorry the Canadian parliament said "he fought against the Soviet Union during WWII." they fully knew what they were talking about. Say what you need to to say against the USSR under Stalin but this was rewriting history to fit a narrative.
Listen - when someone says "veteran who fought against the Red Army in World War II", some part of you surely has to ask the question - "who were the Soviets fighting again?"
Yes he’s speaking propaganda here. If you want to know the truth about nazis and Ukraine you Google “Stephan Bandera”, the Nash’s and Ukrainians teamed up against the USSR, that’s how Nazis in Ukraine started.
if memory serves right, they literrally introduced him as a veteran who fought for the independance of ukraine in WW2. Should be obvious what side he fought on based on these words. But they didn't give a shit.
@@chaosgaming1806 Definitely not saying the actions of other army's men absolves the SS of their war crimes, just pointing out that fighting against the closest thing to satanic demons running amok that the modern world has ever seen (Soviet troops on their r*pe and pillage world tour of 45') is worthy of an applause even if the next point of order is finally putting this old dude out of his misery and sending him down to meet up with all his buddies again for eternity. The possibility of some people who aren't up to date with their modern history out there actually thinking of the Soviets as another one of the poor innocent victims persecuted unjustly by the Austrian painter gives me the heeby jeebies
@@chaosgaming1806Definitely not saying the actions of other army's men absolves the S S of their war crimes, just pointing out that fighting against the closest thing to satanic demons running amok that the modern world has ever seen (Soviet troops on their *grape and pillage world tour of 45') is worthy of an applause even if the next point of order is finally putting this old dude out of his misery and sending him down to meet up with all his buddies again for eternity. The possibility of some people who aren't up to date with their modern history out there actually thinking of the Soviets as another one of the poor innocent victims persecuted unjustly by the funny moustache man gives me the creeps *The 'g' is silent
@FortYeah Canada has a huge community and very influential of decendants of Ukaranian nazi collaborators. Some of them are in parlament. It is well known who they are and what they did during ww2. Stop making excuses.
This clip is full of lies from the guest. You can see him get nervous when lex brings up Bandera and he refuses to answer lex question. Are there nazis in Ukraine? Why is nazism so popular in Ukraine? Waffen means armored in German. The waffen SS were the armored divisions of of the SS. The Ukrainian Galicia division was defeated and rebuilt several times. It's absurd how the guest tiptoes around the motivations for young Ukrainians to join. Cant he admit even one Ukrainian joined because they agreed with the ideals of nazism? Bandera was a nazi collaborator who aided the germans with intelligence during the invasion of Poland. Banderas forces would later form kill squads with and without permission from the germans to kill jews, poles and Russians. Bandera himself was such a fanatical nazi and wanted to create nationalist Ukrainian state allied with german that copied all the things hitler said to germans but to Ukrainians. Over 300,000 Ukrainians fought and served up the germans. Bandera was actually imprisoned by the germans because they weren't sure they could trust him he was so fanatical. I also notice lex keeps asking the guest about Ukraine today and the guest keeps jumping back to ww2 and ignoring the questions. There's very good reasons to suggest Ukraine does have a nazi problem, and the radicals do have a strong hand in the government and military. The cultivation and promotion of nazism have thrived under the post maiden coup government. It IS true this nazism drove then to pass laws against the ethnic Russians in the country. It IS true that Ukraine justifies bombing civilians in donbass knowing they're only killing "Russians". Theres more to this war, the current government/culture of ukraine and history this guest doesn't want you to know because it doesn't fit his narrative!
You could write a similarly long history of Nazism sympathy in the US, Lindberg to Operation Paperclip to Charlottesville. It would be easy craft a narrative about America having a problem with Nazism, but it would be disingenuous. It’s much more nuanced than that. You’re just trying to fit a narrative.
@@ryanm1061 That is not correct. Nazi sympathizers existed historically in the USA, Russia, France, Germany etc., but are not seen today as national heros in these countries. The problem with Bandera is that he is so popular in Ukraine nowadays.
Frontal assault on the US/UK foreign policy establishment would be futile, even if Lex thought they were wrong about everything. (Not saying Lex thinks that.) So why would you want him to fall on his sword, and silence his voice on all matters, to go all out in opposition to the establishment here?
"The Canadian side hasnt done enough research..." The speaker said "this Ukrainian hero who fought Russians during the WW2..." and AFTER that the guy got a standing ovation. No, Alex, they knew exactly who they were applauding to.
Chrystia Freeland knew exactly what she was doing here. But many MPs are unlikely to know much of anything about anything, besides how to be a charming suckup to those currently rumored to hold power.
The fact is a lot of Ukrainians today are in fact fascists. And no Im not saying majority, but a minority that is unfortunately very powerful in Ukraine today as it is infiltrated the politics and the army. When Maidan happened fascists in Ukraine were not even one tenth of what they are today but they were allowed to act according to their agenda and were crucial in escalating the conflict within Ukraine, leading to rebellion. Years of war made others that joined the fight or watch someone close to them die into fascist, propaganda both from Ukraine and from west in general is making people more and more into fascist. Every time you see people call Russians subhumans or orcs or call for the death of innocents just because they are "the enemy" is just another step towards fascism.
Россияне пришли в Украину и убивают украинцев , но украинцы фашисты? У России все признаки фашизма! Одна страна, одна партия, один вождь! Полная аналогия с гитлеровской Германией! Почему же тогда этнические русские сражаются в рядах украинской армии, чтобы этот" русский мир' не пришел в их дом?
3:50 Wow. It's almost like after hearing this guy go "well you know Bandera is misunderstood and SS Ukrainians were few compared to Red Army Ukrainians but you know Red Army is not blameless too you know..." Lex is trying to steer the conversation away to "maybe Canadians didn't know who fought Russians in WW2". Nah Lex, this guy would actually use the argument that "more Ukrainains were on the Rad Army side" which is true, but then he would describe the USSR as a Rusisan empire. And he would then see nothing wrong with modern Ukraine dismantling monuments to Red Army heroes and officially honoring and promoting the relatively small part of Ukrainians of that period who fought in the 1st Galician SS division and the like. This professor's politiucal position is incoherent this way. My guess the reason is that it's more of a current Ukrainian political position, which is a hastily built construction meant to prop up the post-coup regime and its associated political forces. Serhii poersonally might actually not realize that because his researh has not reach the point of addressing these inconsistencies, I don't know. But then, I'm very biased in Russia's favor, maybe I'm missing something
These guys were SS. More Nazi than regular German troops. This is Nazi apologetics. If this was true why was everyone shocked and embarrassed. Making up excuses because they caught. Sorry.
Nice little story he got there about journey of this devision in the war, without mentioning all the atrocities they did of course, but what is more matter is that memorials to this 3 million are getting destroyed while those 20 thousand getting praised as heroes
Roman Shukhevych (SS officer (hauptmann) who was directly implicated in a mass extermination of jews and poles) is a national hero of Zelenskyy Ukraine. Multiple streets are named after him. Zelenskyy is quite fine with that. Moreover he didn't even apologize for his standing ovation for this SS Nazi in Canadian parliament, because it would upset multiple Nazis in his army (yeah, Nazis that are covered with Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi patches and paint swastikas on their tanks). There is also a bronze bust of Roman Shukhevych at the Ukrainian Youth Unity Complex in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada . .. It was partly funded by Canadian taxpayers. Another national hero of Zelenskyy Ukraine is Stepan Bandera (even more streets and stadiums are named after him). You can read his speeches calling for a mass extermination of the Poles and Jews He was crystal clear about Ukrainian nationalism and what it stood for shoulder to shoulder with Hitler.
Serhii ploky is wrong on the numbers of the Ukrainian SS division Volunteers signed for service as of 3 June 1943 and numbered 80,000. There was also Ukrainians sent to the Wehrmacht units in the west some where forced others volunteered. So I’m just nitpicking his statement saying well 20,000 vs 3 million Soviets, like ok but does he know that there were other units. I have a book from osprey publishing of the German East legions. Their where hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers in the Wehrmacht and other thousands in the Ukrainian auxiliary units operating inside Ukraine from 1943-1944.
With this guest, I totally lost respect for this podcast. Bandera was not what it looks like, SS weren't actually Nazis, Ukrainian national-chauvinism is actually just patriotism, blah, blah
He has the brain and naiveté of a 5 year old child. Watch his videos with Mearsheimer, talking about humanity and kindness, and love in geopolitics. Total 🤡
If you're in the Canadian parliament and they bring in some guy and say he's a war hero who fought the Russians in WW2, you're just going to assume the person misspoke or meant after WW2. You're not going to think he's a Nazi. You're going to assume they check out these kind of things and know what they're doing. They were clueless is all.
Consider that Canada has very big ex-nazi community including in parlament. They're very influential too. Majority of Canadians knows exactly who these people are. They welcomed them into the country and gave them pensions.
As a Canadian inform yourself about our deputy Prime and finance Minister with paternal Bandera Nazi heritage. Ukrainian borne and speaking fluently when handing over your dollars in Ukraine to Nazi Zelenskyy. The Ukrainian Nazi was purpesly hand pickt.
Lex gets to do some legit interviews on topics he likes. He also has on some contrarian people some times and questions them harder than he does other guests. To keep up a veneer of legitimacy. But he is ALWAYS bringing on the establishments talking heads justifying the horrible shit they do and promote and softballing them. Being reasonable Lex. I just try to watch the obviously non political ones now. Whether by compulsion or choice or by active omission, Lex is and wants to be, establishment. Just not honest on politics whether he knows it or not. And that’s really fine. But dressing it up in this mawkish “truth seeker”costume is bullshit.
The foreign SS divisions were some of the most hardcore nazis because they had absolutely no reason to be in the first place. For example a French SS unit was one of the last German units to stop fighting in Berlin at the end of the war.
So surprised a Ukrainian historian refuses to admit Canada saluted a nazi. Were all the French documentaries of Ukrainian neo-nazi youth camps also propaganda? How about the documentary that vice did several years ago, is that propaganda now too? Who is the Azof battalion? To say Ukraine doesn’t have a nationalist neo-nazi problem is just ignorant. Now does that justify being invaded by a foreign nation is another question.
This is laughable -- nobody in the room knew the full story. Give me a break Zelensky was applauding with a huge smile on his face. He doesn't know? He, whose grandfather was in the Red Army? Really? Please...
Another ‘wonderful nationalist group’ to discuss is: the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, formed in the 1942-43, who murdered an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 Poles, beginning in summer 1943…they were formed from Ukrainian police and militia, who worked with fascist/ German occupation army, during the war and helped German SS execution squads, rounding up innocent Jewish people, towards the mass killing operations/fields, to be shot by SS execution squads…as 900,000 Jews escaped to safety with the Red Army retreating from German invasion, in 1941. Over 1,000,000 Jews in Soviet Ukraine were killed…all shot and buried in earth pits, during the war. Ukrainian Insurgents (all supporters of Stephan Bandera Ukrainians fascist ideology) went into the forest, in 1943 and after the war…continued fighting the Red Army, (Red Army lost an established 28,000 soldiers fighting Ukrainian insurgents….after World War II)for a number of years…until early 1950’s. Currently, in present day Ukraine, ‘these Ukrainian hero’s’ are all honored (definitely not in the Donbas). In Russian speaking portions of eastern Ukraine…monuments to Red Army soldiers still stand, their deaths and sacrifices, largely defeated the German Army, during the war (80 percent of casualties on Eastern Front). The Soviet Union lost over 27,000,000 people during the war, fighting Fascism. ‘Nothing is forgotten, everyone is remembered.’
so this Ukrainian guy was in the SS, it's a fact. Actually, he was not the only one...many Ukraininas joined the SS during the war. This is a fact. Stephan Bandera and his followers were collaborating with the SS, it's another fact. ...but somehow this guy concluded that Banders was not a nazi... hmmm
Hitler Eastern legions Osprey publishing. Waffen -SS Crimean Tatar Bde. Formed March 1944 disbanding in January 1945. 2,421 troops. Then the Crimean Tatar Auxiliary police formed November 1941 disbanded in April 1944. 4,000 troops. Men at arms Osprey Publishing Hitler Russian - Cossack allies 1941-1945 500,000 Soviets civilians and ex Soviet POWs were enlistment or forced to fight Help established 30 divisions. So Serhii Pokhy is like giving he’s different opinions.
More evidence that this ‘history professors’ is just a western funded and biased anti russian propagandist…first he says russia basically has no history now he is denying what we all saw with our own eyes…lex really is a propaganda machine these days…shame, he duped me and many others
Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/qa-wl8_wpZA/видео.html
Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman
Guest bio: Serhii Plokhy is a Ukrainian historian at Harvard University, director of the Ukrainian Research Institute, and an author of many books on history of Eastern Europe, including his latest book The Russo-Ukrainian War: The Return of History.
They were applauding a member of the SS you can't change that or justify no matter how hard you try.
justify what? not all waffen-ss divisions have even been accused of war crimes, from our perspective its Russians who are the criminals.
The guy was technically a veteran of ww2, but this comes down to someone not doing their homework on the guy and assuming he was on the good side..... It's more dumb than anything. I wouldn't take this too seriously to be fair. People applauded someone who they thought was vetted, and didn't think he fought for the 20th century's biggest boogey man.
And Zelensky definitely knew what was being applauded.
@@konackt Yes, Jewish Zelenskyy wanted to applaud the SS. Well done.
@@decekfrokfr3mdx And Jewish Soros helped send Jews to the camps.
I am sorry the Canadian parliament said "he fought against the Soviet Union during WWII." they fully knew what they were talking about. Say what you need to to say against the USSR under Stalin but this was rewriting history to fit a narrative.
Don't underestimate the complete ignorance of North Americans, and the need to simplify complex situations to a good guy vs. a bad guy.
Listen - when someone says "veteran who fought against the Red Army in World War II", some part of you surely has to ask the question - "who were the Soviets fighting again?"
Ever heard of finland.
@@onlyicedcrybaby7297Finald war was before ww2.
Finland not a real country
@@onlyicedcrybaby7297Also part of the Axis, but one of good ones.
@libGODFATHER finland embarrassed the red army for not being a real country. Idk
This guy is full of it
Guy was waffen SS
He was a bad guy.
He helped out in the Volyn incident.
Here's a videos of Captured Ukrainian Soldiers covered in NAZI Tattoo's ==> ruclips.net/video/QwgHct3nXiY/видео.html
They didn't trust them because they were not Aryans, so they put them in the SS. 😂
Makes zero sense.
Your right.
Yes he’s speaking propaganda here. If you want to know the truth about nazis and Ukraine you Google “Stephan Bandera”, the Nash’s and Ukrainians teamed up against the USSR, that’s how Nazis in Ukraine started.
Yea it does
Look up Stepan Bandera and you will know the truth about Ukrainian Nazis. The Ukrainians fought with the Nazis against the USSR, simple as that.
This guy spins.
if memory serves right, they literrally introduced him as a veteran who fought for the independance of ukraine in WW2. Should be obvious what side he fought on based on these words. But they didn't give a shit.
veteran who fought against russians🤣
Tbf the Russian soldiers were far more brutal than the German soldiers. Countless historical examples of this in WW2 alone
@@phoenixmodellingphotographyyeah but this guy was an ss officer. He most likely was an active participant in Nazi attrocities
@@chaosgaming1806 Definitely not saying the actions of other army's men absolves the SS of their war crimes, just pointing out that fighting against the closest thing to satanic demons running amok that the modern world has ever seen (Soviet troops on their r*pe and pillage world tour of 45') is worthy of an applause even if the next point of order is finally putting this old dude out of his misery and sending him down to meet up with all his buddies again for eternity. The possibility of some people who aren't up to date with their modern history out there actually thinking of the Soviets as another one of the poor innocent victims persecuted unjustly by the Austrian painter gives me the heeby jeebies
@@chaosgaming1806Definitely not saying the actions of other army's men absolves the S S of their war crimes, just pointing out that fighting against the closest thing to satanic demons running amok that the modern world has ever seen (Soviet troops on their *grape and pillage world tour of 45') is worthy of an applause even if the next point of order is finally putting this old dude out of his misery and sending him down to meet up with all his buddies again for eternity. The possibility of some people who aren't up to date with their modern history out there actually thinking of the Soviets as another one of the poor innocent victims persecuted unjustly by the funny moustache man gives me the creeps
*The 'g' is silent
Plokhy is really trying to give the veteran a pass. Suspect
He’s awfully nice to the nazis and awfully harsh on the soviets 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Stop making excuses for nazis
soviets are the reason the war in Europe started.
It's not an excuse, it was truly a dumb error. Don't underestimate the ignorance of a majority of politicians in Canada.
Look up Stepan Bandera and you will know the truth about Ukrainian Nazis.
@FortYeah Canada has a huge community and very influential of decendants of Ukaranian nazi collaborators. Some of them are in parlament. It is well known who they are and what they did during ww2. Stop making excuses.
@@FortYeah *Or any other country. A lot of these people arent very smart
This clip is full of lies from the guest. You can see him get nervous when lex brings up Bandera and he refuses to answer lex question. Are there nazis in Ukraine? Why is nazism so popular in Ukraine?
Waffen means armored in German. The waffen SS were the armored divisions of of the SS. The Ukrainian Galicia division was defeated and rebuilt several times. It's absurd how the guest tiptoes around the motivations for young Ukrainians to join. Cant he admit even one Ukrainian joined because they agreed with the ideals of nazism? Bandera was a nazi collaborator who aided the germans with intelligence during the invasion of Poland. Banderas forces would later form kill squads with and without permission from the germans to kill jews, poles and Russians. Bandera himself was such a fanatical nazi and wanted to create nationalist Ukrainian state allied with german that copied all the things hitler said to germans but to Ukrainians. Over 300,000 Ukrainians fought and served up the germans. Bandera was actually imprisoned by the germans because they weren't sure they could trust him he was so fanatical.
I also notice lex keeps asking the guest about Ukraine today and the guest keeps jumping back to ww2 and ignoring the questions.
There's very good reasons to suggest Ukraine does have a nazi problem, and the radicals do have a strong hand in the government and military. The cultivation and promotion of nazism have thrived under the post maiden coup government. It IS true this nazism drove then to pass laws against the ethnic Russians in the country. It IS true that Ukraine justifies bombing civilians in donbass knowing they're only killing "Russians". Theres more to this war, the current government/culture of ukraine and history this guest doesn't want you to know because it doesn't fit his narrative!
One small correction: "Waffen" means "weapons" in German, not "armored". I agree with the rest of your text.
Woefully false. Not a single far-right party sits in the Rada.
Nazi laws against Russians? Zelensky is a Russophone Jew.
SS means state security, Schtats Sicherheit@@henningstedtfeld7121
You could write a similarly long history of Nazism sympathy in the US, Lindberg to Operation Paperclip to Charlottesville. It would be easy craft a narrative about America having a problem with Nazism, but it would be disingenuous. It’s much more nuanced than that. You’re just trying to fit a narrative.
@@ryanm1061 That is not correct. Nazi sympathizers existed historically in the USA, Russia, France, Germany etc., but are not seen today as national heros in these countries. The problem with Bandera is that he is so popular in Ukraine nowadays.
What complexity?)))
Speaker literally told to everyone that this ukranian veteran fought against the soviets in WW II
It is ridiculous
Propaganda? What happened to Lex? People pleasing?
Lex is pandering mainstream audience.
Look up Stepan Bandera and you will know the truth about Ukrainian Nazis.
He went to Ukraine once and drank their KoolAid.
Frontal assault on the US/UK foreign policy establishment would be futile, even if Lex thought they were wrong about everything. (Not saying Lex thinks that.)
So why would you want him to fall on his sword, and silence his voice on all matters, to go all out in opposition to the establishment here?
@@h2didenkov А ты путинку выпил?
"The Canadian side hasnt done enough research..."
The speaker said "this Ukrainian hero who fought Russians during the WW2..." and AFTER that the guy got a standing ovation. No, Alex, they knew exactly who they were applauding to.
Chrystia Freeland knew exactly what she was doing here. But many MPs are unlikely to know much of anything about anything, besides how to be a charming suckup to those currently rumored to hold power.
The fact is a lot of Ukrainians today are in fact fascists. And no Im not saying majority, but a minority that is unfortunately very powerful in Ukraine today as it is infiltrated the politics and the army.
When Maidan happened fascists in Ukraine were not even one tenth of what they are today but they were allowed to act according to their agenda and were crucial in escalating the conflict within Ukraine, leading to rebellion. Years of war made others that joined the fight or watch someone close to them die into fascist, propaganda both from Ukraine and from west in general is making people more and more into fascist. Every time you see people call Russians subhumans or orcs or call for the death of innocents just because they are "the enemy" is just another step towards fascism.
Woefully false. Not a single far-right party sits in the Rada.
Россияне пришли в Украину и убивают украинцев , но украинцы фашисты?
У России все признаки фашизма!
Одна страна, одна партия, один вождь!
Полная аналогия с гитлеровской Германией!
Почему же тогда этнические русские сражаются в рядах украинской армии, чтобы этот" русский мир' не пришел в их дом?
I definitely agree with this. The dehumanization of Russians in this war has been insane
3:50 Wow. It's almost like after hearing this guy go "well you know Bandera is misunderstood and SS Ukrainians were few compared to Red Army Ukrainians but you know Red Army is not blameless too you know..." Lex is trying to steer the conversation away to "maybe Canadians didn't know who fought Russians in WW2".
Nah Lex, this guy would actually use the argument that "more Ukrainains were on the Rad Army side" which is true, but then he would describe the USSR as a Rusisan empire. And he would then see nothing wrong with modern Ukraine dismantling monuments to Red Army heroes and officially honoring and promoting the relatively small part of Ukrainians of that period who fought in the 1st Galician SS division and the like.
This professor's politiucal position is incoherent this way. My guess the reason is that it's more of a current Ukrainian political position, which is a hastily built construction meant to prop up the post-coup regime and its associated political forces. Serhii poersonally might actually not realize that because his researh has not reach the point of addressing these inconsistencies, I don't know. But then, I'm very biased in Russia's favor, maybe I'm missing something
These guys were SS. More Nazi than regular German troops.
This is Nazi apologetics.
If this was true why was everyone shocked and embarrassed.
Making up excuses because they caught.
Sorry.
Nice little story he got there about journey of this devision in the war, without mentioning all the atrocities they did of course, but what is more matter is that memorials to this 3 million are getting destroyed while those 20 thousand getting praised as heroes
Roman Shukhevych (SS officer (hauptmann) who was directly implicated in a mass extermination of jews and poles) is a national hero of Zelenskyy Ukraine. Multiple streets are named after him. Zelenskyy is quite fine with that. Moreover he didn't even apologize for his standing ovation for this SS Nazi in Canadian parliament, because it would upset multiple Nazis in his army (yeah, Nazis that are covered with Nazi tattoos, wear Nazi patches and paint swastikas on their tanks). There is also a bronze bust of Roman Shukhevych at the Ukrainian Youth Unity Complex in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada . .. It was partly funded by Canadian taxpayers. Another national hero of Zelenskyy Ukraine is Stepan Bandera (even more streets and stadiums are named after him). You can read his speeches calling for a mass extermination of the Poles and Jews He was crystal clear about Ukrainian nationalism and what it stood for shoulder to shoulder with Hitler.
Serhii ploky is wrong on the numbers of the Ukrainian SS division Volunteers signed for service as of 3 June 1943 and numbered 80,000. There was also Ukrainians sent to the Wehrmacht units in the west some where forced others volunteered. So I’m just nitpicking his statement saying well 20,000 vs 3 million Soviets, like ok but does he know that there were other units. I have a book from osprey publishing of the German East legions. Their where hundreds of Ukrainian soldiers in the Wehrmacht and other thousands in the Ukrainian auxiliary units operating inside Ukraine from 1943-1944.
They introduced the dude as someone "who fought against Russia in WW2" 😂😂😂
What happened to you Lex?😢
Ukraine does have a Nahz issue it seems. They’re telegram chats are insane
pls refer me any of that TG chats
Fridman went full diarrhea of the mouth, in this one.
A blunder?!!!!! Nice try.
Lex turned out to be a complete schill.
With this guest, I totally lost respect for this podcast. Bandera was not what it looks like, SS weren't actually Nazis, Ukrainian national-chauvinism is actually just patriotism, blah, blah
You know lex is a plant by the fact he has over a million subs and gets like 2 thousand views on his uploads. avoid avoid avoid
He has the brain and naiveté of a 5 year old child.
Watch his videos with Mearsheimer, talking about humanity and kindness, and love in geopolitics. Total 🤡
You are not in control. You dont get to yap orders
I have lost respect for Lex...m
That's OUR GUYS, nazy not nazy who cares, right?
If you're in the Canadian parliament and they bring in some guy and say he's a war hero who fought the Russians in WW2, you're just going to assume the person misspoke or meant after WW2. You're not going to think he's a Nazi. You're going to assume they check out these kind of things and know what they're doing. They were clueless is all.
Consider that Canada has very big ex-nazi community including in parlament. They're very influential too. Majority of Canadians knows exactly who these people are. They welcomed them into the country and gave them pensions.
@@h2didenkovNever underestimate the idiocy of the average Canadian politician.
I like how he puts the spin here against Russia 😀
Biased
Ask 100 random college graduates today, "Who fought the Russians in WWII." Most of them would guess the USA.
As a Canadian, I admit that we can sometimes be idiots.
As a Canadian inform yourself about our deputy Prime and finance Minister with paternal Bandera Nazi heritage.
Ukrainian borne and speaking fluently when handing over your dollars in Ukraine to Nazi Zelenskyy.
The Ukrainian Nazi was purpesly hand pickt.
Standing ovation TWICE! Many SS galicia in canada
Criminal
Putin?
Is it just me or did anyone else fall asleep in the first minute listening to this guy?
Lex gets to do some legit interviews on topics he likes. He also has on some contrarian people some times and questions them harder than he does other guests. To keep up a veneer of legitimacy. But he is ALWAYS bringing on the establishments talking heads justifying the horrible shit they do and promote and softballing them. Being reasonable Lex. I just try to watch the obviously non political ones now. Whether by compulsion or choice or by active omission, Lex is and wants to be, establishment. Just not honest on politics whether he knows it or not. And that’s really fine. But dressing it up in this mawkish “truth seeker”costume is bullshit.
The foreign SS divisions were some of the most hardcore nazis because they had absolutely no reason to be in the first place. For example a French SS unit was one of the last German units to stop fighting in Berlin at the end of the war.
So truth became propaganda, yet propaganda becomes "reality".
Weird times.
what if, he was in ww2, but didnt say he was SS. Not like people in SS would brag about it.
So surprised a Ukrainian historian refuses to admit Canada saluted a nazi. Were all the French documentaries of Ukrainian neo-nazi youth camps also propaganda? How about the documentary that vice did several years ago, is that propaganda now too? Who is the Azof battalion? To say Ukraine doesn’t have a nationalist neo-nazi problem is just ignorant. Now does that justify being invaded by a foreign nation is another question.
Lex you are a big disappointment
Nazi apologist?
This is laughable -- nobody in the room knew the full story.
Give me a break
Zelensky was applauding with a huge smile on his face. He doesn't know? He, whose grandfather was in the Red Army? Really? Please...
Another ‘wonderful nationalist group’ to discuss is: the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, formed in the 1942-43, who murdered an estimated 80,000 to 100,000 Poles, beginning in summer 1943…they were formed from Ukrainian police and militia, who worked with fascist/ German occupation army, during the war and helped German SS execution squads, rounding up innocent Jewish people, towards the mass killing operations/fields, to be shot by SS execution squads…as 900,000 Jews escaped to safety with the Red Army retreating from German invasion, in 1941.
Over 1,000,000 Jews in Soviet Ukraine were killed…all shot and buried in earth pits, during the war.
Ukrainian Insurgents (all supporters of Stephan Bandera Ukrainians fascist ideology) went into the forest, in 1943 and after the war…continued fighting the Red Army, (Red Army lost an established 28,000 soldiers fighting Ukrainian insurgents….after World War II)for a number of years…until early 1950’s.
Currently, in present day Ukraine, ‘these Ukrainian hero’s’ are all honored (definitely not in the Donbas).
In Russian speaking portions of eastern Ukraine…monuments to Red Army soldiers still stand, their deaths and sacrifices, largely defeated the German Army, during the war (80 percent of casualties on Eastern Front). The Soviet Union lost over 27,000,000 people during the war, fighting Fascism.
‘Nothing is forgotten, everyone is remembered.’
so this Ukrainian guy was in the SS, it's a fact. Actually, he was not the only one...many Ukraininas joined the SS during the war. This is a fact. Stephan Bandera and his followers were collaborating with the SS, it's another fact. ...but somehow this guy concluded that Banders was not a nazi... hmmm
Of course this guy is going to put a good spin on Ukrainian actions during WW2
Hitler Eastern legions Osprey publishing. Waffen -SS Crimean Tatar Bde. Formed March 1944 disbanding in January 1945. 2,421 troops. Then the Crimean Tatar Auxiliary police formed November 1941 disbanded in April 1944. 4,000 troops. Men at arms Osprey Publishing Hitler Russian - Cossack allies 1941-1945 500,000 Soviets civilians and ex Soviet POWs were enlistment or forced to fight Help established 30 divisions. So Serhii Pokhy is like giving he’s different opinions.
I smell Copium.
Blunder. Yeah ok.
He speaks in riddles
Not true
More evidence that this ‘history professors’ is just a western funded and biased anti russian propagandist…first he says russia basically has no history now he is denying what we all saw with our own eyes…lex really is a propaganda machine these days…shame, he duped me and many others
The enemy of my enemy.
Zelenskies grandad was in the soviet army
The level of misinformation. The story was about some random WW2 soldier and you put Himler in thumbnail .... russian terrorist much?
The "random WW2 soldier" was a member of the SS. Himmler was the head of the SS.