Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/r4wLXNydzeY/видео.html Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.
Hitler was total evil but faced a Europe with Marxism exploding in every European nation. This major factor is really not covered in this video about Hitler
King leopold of Belgium murdered 20 million people in the Congo, but for some reason is never brought up in the same conversation as Hitler. Can’t think why.
And Mao killed multiple times more people than Hitler did, but they're not the people who make the movies, control the news and run the banks so,,,, that's why
That is true, why would you invite people who failed in life to sit in the circles of the winner. Hitler failed because his two great enemys had little to do with is problems. Thr commis did not screw Germany, and the Jews were zero threat to the Germany people. The war went well for the Germans until he invaded Russia and started rounding up the jews. That's qhen the Nazis begin to fall
@@pietbiertappertje4529 I’m a fanboy of learning from history. We learn the best when we study the most reprehensible figures in history. And they deserve our closest examination because they are the losers we are taught to resent the most. If we can truly admit history is distorted by the lens of victor, then we should take that fact into consideration when we study history. If I am considered a Nazifanboi because I said “history is written by the victor”, then I am not the one who seems to be indoctrinated, those making the accusation are indoctrinated.
@user-sk7jt3pf1c I agree to the point that history will be distorted through this "lens" of the Victor. But if you make this comment under a video (in some cases under multiple 😉) about Hitler, without context. It sounds like you're saying, the "victor" made up the whole nazi ideology (and the destruction of human lives that came with it).
@@brucemacmillan9581 I don't have the kind of mental disorder I would need to have in order to understand how on earth you reached that interpretation so I'm not even gonna try lol
If a history professor or an 'expert' states that "Hitler was the most recorded murderer in history" he has neither heard of Stalin, Leopold, Genghis or Mao - or chooses to forget them (for personal reasons i expect)
He's close enough that I'm willing to give him a pass. The number of deaths in WWII era is generally stated as 100 million - probably more people than the number that existed at the time of Genghis - If you include 1930 thru 1950 plus the reign of Mao, and throw in Pol Pot, we are looking at staggering numbers. WWII is generally seen as being started by Hitler, but the Japanese had been at it for several years in China before Hitler got going, and the Japanese were about as cruel.
I don't agree with his view on Napoleon being an aggressor. If you look at most of the "Napoleonic wars" they were largely provoked by the British. A large part of the wars were Napoleon fighting coalitions put together by the British so they could put the monarchy back on the throne, because they didn't agree with the French revolution
No sir, Napoleon was incredibly aggressive the french army invaded Portugal 3 times, and inflicted huge casualties and terror and desperation as well as looting… The Portuguese never did anything against France. The short guy was a maniac, a terrorist and a looter.
100% true. Almost all of the wars of the coalitions against the French were started by the coalition. It was a reactionary coalition of absolute monarchies fighting against the ideology of the French revolution.
How can this guy say Hitler wasn’t charismatic? Watch ANY speech of his and you’ll see it’s like a work of amphetamine-induced theatre. German citizens were in awe.
Really though? He is very screamy... you need to remember that Hitler was never elected by the German people. He declared himself a dictator when they enacted emergency powers in the Reichstag after the fire in the place (they blamed this on Communists)... the Conservatives put him in place as the Chancellor because they thought they could control him and wanted to keep power through a bloc arrangement with the Nazi party. The Nazi party did not even get 40 or 50% of the full votes in the last free German elections and they were even using underhanded tactics to get the result they got (Goering was the minister of interior for Prussia and used local police to steer away other party voters from polling stations, etc.). He didn't seduce a nation, he took power.
Exactly. Anyone that is capable of thinking for themselves knows this is complete nonsense. It took me all of 12 seconds to look this guy up and understand where his delusions come from.
Charisma is certainly subjective. He never said Hitler wasn't charismatic. He admitted "he" (John) didn't see any charisma, even though millions did. I'm in the same boat. Hitler induces nothing but revulsion in me. Zero charisma. I wouldn't even need to know what he was pushing to be inclined to reject it. Literally the antithesis of charisma.
Simple, the British were intimidated by German industry, the manufacturing and engineering were superior, there are many Churchill quotes declaring the empires disdain for the German competition.
@@pharmdadfit well that was then, now Germany is well placed behind many other Asian countries in scale, volume and precision, but this rivalry was the clear cause of WW2
@@AugustusOmega deep resentment over the treaty of versailles by the German people was the cause of WW2. The treaty was so harsh against Germany to make them pay for the attrition of men lost and to knock them backwards economically because they were coming on so strong in the first part of the 20th century. They are once again a leader in Europe now in 2023 looking at GDP.
@@pharmdadfit of course, I have always argued this crippling document a relic from WW1 hamstrung German development and the rent seekers in London and Paris would not let go, because these funds somehow ended up in private hands. The French were human enough to concede their idiotic mistake and allowed Hitler to roll in easily, but the English got overheated and called for war...and London got the shellaccing it deserved. Hitler bombed the crap out of the English in 12 different shades of black and blue, they hid like rats in a sewer. Versailles was a reparation mistake that had to ultimately be forgiven if relations in the European region were to be normalized once more, but that didnt happen.
Ian Kershaw said Hitler had formed an alliance with Stalin who he wanted to be his enemy and became an enemy of Britain who he wanted to be his ally. Also, Stalin was even more deceived. The Red Army trained the Germans in tank tactics and air warfare because the Versailles treaty forbade Germany from training its own forces. The Wehrmacht's early triumphs in Barbarossa were due to Stalin being too smart for his own good. He must have thought the Red Army's locations near the border wasn't going to lead Hitler to initiating an invasion.
@@JohnKobaRuddy Stalin murdered Tens of Millions before the war started in Ukraine and then killed More people during the war this isn’t disputed. If he was a saint after the war it’s irrelevant
When my father was working on his Hitler biography in 1973 I recalled him telling me how shocked he was when he met with Hitler's surviving cousins and extended family and them telling him nobody ever came to talk with any of them till my Dad did. It was strange meeting them as they all seemed so ordinary. They survive to this day though they changed their last name after the war.
Marxists destroyed Russia in 1917. And then they used it to destroy Europe with multiculturalism. After World War II, the USSR introduced Marxist propaganda into American schools and degenerated American unity. Today the Kremlin is ruled by the multiculturalist Putin, who is destroying Eastern Europeans with tanks. And in the West, Europeans are being destroyed by the NETFLIX AGENDA (MARXISM)!
I think he misspoke. He meant Hitler was one of the most murderous leaders in history, compared to Napoleon. He’s making a distinction between the two leaders, not necessarily claiming that Hitler is THE most murderous. At least that’s my interpretation given his expertise on military history.
@@mikeyerian2562 He didn't make a mistake. The conversation was about Hitler, and particularly Hitler in comparison to Napoleon. Tho Stalin is mentioned later in the interview. But Stalin didn't start WW2. Hitler did. Of course Stalin didn't help with the stupid non-aggression pact he signed with Hitler before Hitler invaded Poland. If Stalin hadn't done that, maybe Hitler thinks twice about invading.
Yeah because we did lol propaganda convinced everyone to kill the Germans who honestly were the last hope for Western civilization. Now look at the west
I can't take anyone, who claims the German empire was responsible for WW1 or the third Reich for WW2 seriously... Shows a lack of differentiation and objectivness, which is imperative in the science of history.
@@batistasmith5565 thats what the high school books tell you, in reality Bolsheviks funded by Jews were dressing up as NAZI soldiers and doing wrong doings all around Europe, which triggered Hitler to stop it starting in Poland.
How Germany was not primarily responsible for the Second World War? Was it not German responsability when Czechoslovakia was annexed? Or the barbaric invasion of Poland? We can't point the finger to French and English like they killed those 17 millions because their harsh terms destabilised Germany too much
@@eliasbonafe9236you need to watch and study history from both sides, neither Germany started it, nor it was reaponsible. Just google “adolf hitler: the man who fought the banks” that short video will open your eyes so much, you will thank me later
JM is a great argument for the necessity of counter factual thinking. I find myself disagreeing with his takes constantly, but always appreciate how he forces me to back up all my own takes and assumptions.
@@aleksadodic5102 I don't think Israel has any choice in what they do. I don't particularly like and I rarely agree with Elon Musk, but even he understood ( after all his previous anti-semitic ramblings ) ... “There's no choice but to kill those who insist on murdering civilians” - Elon Musk Also the writings and experience of Mosab Hassan Yousef, the Green Prince, Son Of Hamas are very compelling in explaining from the inside what Islam is, what Hamas is, and how do view and respond to it. We have millions of people in the world stuck in a 7th century BS ideology trying to re-emerge in the present day chaos to take over.
@@justgivemethetruth Totally disagree. Israel/occupied/conquered Palestinian territory using political lobbying and military power - they see themselves as nation chosen by God and that they have a God given claim on the territory (in what way is that less radical than Islam) - they are ethnic cleansing the Palestinian territories and they have created an apartheid state. How would you react if someone came and occupied your homeland - would you call your actions against the occupier an act of terrorism or rebellion?
Sorry, but even as a kid when I was quite new at school and heard for the first time that a Serb in Serbia killed the heir apparent of Austria and because of this a war startet and became a world war and in the end Germany was condemned as the only guilty, I was puzzled and thought that I must have missed something crucial. Today I experienced being lied to on so many levels , I’m convinced that this is kind of the usual politics. I still do not know what happened though I’ve learned a lot and have some questions. But still this big war with the intermediate of 20 years is a taboo, especially if you are a German. At the moment world is changing and a lot of truth is being revealed. We will have to wait another two or five years then a lot of the history of the 20th Century will be explainable. It all will unravel .
The reason it is blamed on Germany is that the war would not have become a World War had Germany not declared war on Russia. This is the timeline: Franz Ferdinand was assassinated -> Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia -> Russian Empire declared war on Austria Hungary, because they were a close ally of Serbia -> Germany, having a mutual defense treaty with Austria Hungary, declared war on Russia -> France, having a treaty with Russia, declared war on Germany If Germany had never declared war on Russia, it would've remained a war between Austria-Hungary and Russia, that's the logic behind blaming the Germans. It's stupid, because really it was Austria Hungary's fault for invading Serbia, but Germany helped in escalating the conflict.
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 then I can say that if Russia never declared war on Austria Hungary then the war would've never started either. So it's Russia's fault by the logic you're using
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 I did read what you said, I’m suggesting that surely that can’t be the reason that germany is blamed? that would make 0 sense
I like how after this segment he goes onto explain how Putin/ Russia didn't start the Ukraine war, as if Germany didn't have any "legitimate security concerns" in Czechia and Poland, the same way that he says Russia does in Ukraine.
Hitler did not even want this war. He wanted a corridor to Danzig (German city that was taken as a result of Treaty of Versailles) and made quite good proposals to Poland. Poland rejected them and this resulted in attack on Poland in 1939 September 1st. Also Poland mobilized their army first partly on August 25 and then again in August 31.
@@oussamaelbaz5932 I did, its the most generic no detailed nonsense compared to his explanations of "NATO expansion led Putin to invade Ukraine". If John was a bit more knowledgeable he could say the exact same thing for Germany "Chamberlain's 'Peace Front' encirclement policy led to Germany invading Poland".
But the problem is that he only have OLD knowledge. There are far better historicans than him. Why they still call him I don't know. I guess it it because they are aware of that people WANT HIM to tell the old samme story even it is not correct.
The alliance system caused WWI, Germany was no more to blame than the others. Really Austria intransigence over it’s demands to Serbia caused things to lead to the Alliance snowball issue.
there would have been no war in the western theatre at all, its churchills fault that ww2 turned into the insanity that we call ww2 mostly. Had Britain gotten another leader instead of the stupid drunkard Churchill they most likely would have sued for peace and ended it right there.
Once Hitler was done with SU he'll turn his attention on France.There wouldn't be peace in the west without him getting back Alsace Lorraine.There would've been war with the west regardless.
Two jews discussing their archenemy, who still lives rent free in their heads despite the total defeat of Germany and the death of millions of Germans. Surely this information will be accurate.
The hatred of the Nazis towards Jews was real, the concentration camps and the gas chambers were real as was the holocaust. So yes I can understand if Jews were to feel some bias against the Nazis, they would not be human otherwise. However, there are many eminent and honest Jewish scholars of the history of the Third Reich so we should not, out of hand, dismiss their views. Having said that Mearsheimer is a brilliant scholar but Third Reich is not his area of expertise.
"Probably the most murderous leader in recorded history" Love how Stalin never seems to get mentioned.. Oh wait, Because History is written by the Victors.. Thus recorded history is flawed..
His retelling of history is flawed. Anyone with Internet access and half a brain can learn about the atrocities by the communist that are conveniently left out of the classroom
I remember speaking with a coworker about the topic of World War 2 and mentioning that the events that occurred during the war, specifically with The Third Reich, are very interesting and fascinating to learn about. He looked at me as if I said “inspiring”. Some conversations just can’t be discussed with some people.
I don't think that a capture of Moscow would have resulted in a German victory. We see that Napoleon invade and burnt Moscow to the ground. Yet, the French were slaughtered on the way out and ended up losing big.
20 MILLION Russians died in WW2 compared to 6M J and 1M combined from other nations…it’s why this is such a big holiday in R. Get over your Russ phobia it was cultivated by propaganda to keep the war machine going…we should be moving to diplomacy instead of wars
I’m fascinated by World War II and Hitler like a vast majority of people and I’ve exhausted all the documentaries and a lot of reading material but I found this podcast answered a lot of questions I hadn’t previously heard so thank you this was great
Then I will recomend TIK for you. He is much better than this guy. TIK document that Germany was 2 months from bankerupt each time Hitler decieded to invade another country.
this whole comparrison doesnt ad up. One was a full scale war and the other was a genocide. So Numbers of dead people arent the only thing matters. If, we should talk about Mao, Stalin and others as well. But WW2 was something else. Completly new. King leopold killed a lot over years. Most people in WW2 died during 1942-1945. So its the whole dynamic that makes WW2 special.
The Romans were also brutal killers, the wiped out entire ethic groups in what is now France, all under the orders of Julio's Cesar who many praise and we even have a month called after him, yet nobody mentions his ethic cleansing.
@@cristianbiro4024 Mearsheimer is a Chicago University professor who has been saying this for over a decade now, and he has been on more professional, mature, logical and intelligent RUclips channels. I suggest you watch his University Lecture in 2015 here in RUclips, or see him with the Duran, or with Judge Napolitano. Real adult and smart discussions over Lex "leaders and love, and peace."🤡🤣
I want to comment on Professor Mearsheimer's comparison of Russian success in the case of Napoleon's and Hitler's invasions and the 1st World War failure of the Russian Army. In two former cases, there was strong leadership. In the latter case, there was a disintegration of leadership - a coup in Moscow when Tzar Nicolas was ousted from power, et cetera. Thanks to Professor Mearsheimer and Lex for the interesting discussion.
Mearsheimer leaves out very important details. His explanations are very general. Even stereotypical. For someone with so much literature penned in his name, one would expect greater articulation.
Nice interview, but a shame that such learned individuals don't make mention of Greece's role in the German failure to conquer the Soviet Union. Mussolini's invasion of Greece was a massive failure as the Greeks scored the first Allied victory on European soil in Autumn 1941. As a result, Hitler had to delay Operation Barbarossa in order to lend aid to the Italians and Albanians attacking Greece, which subsequently led the Germans to get decimated by the ensuing Russian winter
11:20 It may have been that what happened was that the Soviets were brought up against a cliff edge. The soviets either fight for their lives, or they die. Literally only 2 options. They chose to fight for their very existence. The Germans were tired, and frozen in the snow. Of the 2 motivations, which one would overwhelm?
That is a primitive conclusion. The germas was not stopped by the russians in front of Moscou. They were just run out of fuel. And because US startede to send supply to russian the russian was just faster to rebuild offensive capapcity faster than the germans and then... well then the war was just lost...
“Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in record history” *Mao Zedong has entered the chat *Joseph Stalin has entered the chat *Genghis Khan has entered the chat
Imperial Germany was not “largely” responsible for starting World War One. They were certainly a part of It but many nations were equally if not more responsible. Comparing that to World War Two where they were 100% responsible is kinda crazy.
He thought that the Soviets would be the first to break the pact to attack Germany while they're fighting England in the West. In his mind, delaying the inevitable meant to give Soviets more time to prepare for an assault. This is how he convinced his generals.
Peter Ustinov, the great British actor and raconteur, actually saw Hitler give a speech in the flesh and he admitted he was scared of the mans ability to charm his audience then almost spellbind them. Ustinov said he felt scared because he made him, for a second or two, believe what he said.
As the great granddaughter of a Russian soldier who fought in both world wars, losing also his son and son-in-law, I heard so many heartbreaking stories from my great granddad about the senselessness of war… I feel like at least 2 subsequent generations of Europeans, especially Russians, grew up with huge scars and trauma from the war and losing family members in the war. I still hear my grandma’s stories about the hunger blockade in my ears every time I see food being wasted. I have lived in Russia, in Germany, in the UK and now in the US, but will always consider myself European before anything else. I can’t understand how whole nations can be dragged into this fanatic state of mind and that’s why it totally breaks my heart to see Russia follows in Germany’s footsteps nowadays in Ukraine… My family, who have lost so much during the WWII are now shouting from their rooftops the same kind of fanatic propaganda that drove the Germans into creating the monster of Hitler… It physically pains me to see history repeating, my poor granddad and great granddad are probably turning in their graves now… May there be peace one day for all of us ❤
Every time you learn about WWII, you see how close and similar the Israeli mindset is to (or at least influenced by) the Nazis, starvation plan is just one example, and when you read the systematic Israeli propaganda, you realize that every accusation is a confession.
Pretty stupid argument, but I'm not surprised with a name like that. Germans were natives to their land, Israelis are not. The Germans were not allowed to recover their historical land, Israelis were allowed under the international eye to steal Palestinian and other lands for decades. When we go to concentration camps, Germans were killed in concentration camps by Allied nations even after the war, I don't see Palestinians killing Jews in concentration camps yet, that might be a similarity. What was similar though was the feeling of persecution since many like to overlook the fact that there had been consistent attacks on German minorities in the world, in Russia for example the anti-German sentiment saw the Volga Germans religiously and culturally persecuted even before Bolshevism, and in my country of South Africa German schools were dissolved after the English illegally invaded the Boer Republics. I would say both had good reasons to feel persecuted, whether I agree completely with their actions resulting from the fact is a different matter.
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq do you recommend any channels/books/vids for someone who’s new to critically questioning every narrative the west has ever told them?
I feel like this is a classic discussion where both people lack knowledge on the subject, though Mearsheimer is obviously the more intelligent of the two with his guesses. - First of all, if you want to understand WW2 and the German actions, you have to understand the German way of war, which is military science. This is a topic that Mearsheimer isn't aware of, and is the domain of military officers and analysts. Germany or Prussia always relied on quick offensives because Prussia was always surrounded by enemies and had to act quick to prevent a disastrous two front war. So they designed their whole thinking around perpetual and swift offense. The belief being, forget about a long campaign and attrition war, and instead smash the enemy's military in large battles with large enveloping and pincer movements along with combined arms. In fact the modern warfare learned by the USA does the same thing and is inspired by the Nazi doctrines (ie: US Marine actions in Iraq and how they smashed the Iraqis). - Second of all, saying Germany blatantly caused both WW1 and WW2 is a dumb stereotypical thing to say by Mearsheimer. Especially hypocritical when his analysis of the Ukraine war is much more in depth and shows that multiple factors made the situation worse. - Mearsheimer says that from the beginning, Germans were mass murdering Russian POWs. This is BS, there is no evidence of that. Russian POWs were "housed" on large open fields, and often dealt with starvation and famine, because Germans had no facilities to take care of over 1 million POWs. But they weren't just mass shot for fun or something. Also this wasn't a factor that somehow motivated the Russians to fight harder. This is just nonsense. Russians won not through "motivation" but through larger reserves, and the German army overextending itself on the mass of Russia. Finally the Russians won through effective counter offensives that were simply well done. - Mearsheimer keeps saying "Thank God they lost" which shows a heavy degree of bias, especially ironic since Americans then fought a 40 year cold war against the USSR and would have dreamed to be on the outskirts of Moscow like the Germans were. Americans doing it = Good, Germans doing it = Bad, according to Mearsheimer.
Well, to your last point, it is the biggest plus that the Americans and the Soviets ever had, that they didnt turn their coldwar into a hotwar. That fact shows their moral superiority to nazi Germany.
Thanks for your comment. I did not watch the video except for the first 40 seconds; you are confirming the suspicion I had right then. When I read their names I knew where this was going, as usual mainstream blabla. Not many Jews love the truth.
@@jarrodnunn There are actually competent German historians who wrote many excellent books on all this, but the language barrier means they're never featured on the internet.
C.E. Wood "Mud: a military history".... the mud was inevitable and the machines simply werent built for mud, frozen tundra did not outright stop the blitzkrieg contrary to lore. dope book
I don't know if it's up to me, but sitting in that position as Lex sits while talking to the professor is quite disrespectful. You invited a guest to your podcast, at least have the courtesy to look like you care about what your guest is saying.
Lex: How about this other thing? Mear: Well yes, it's multi-dimensional. Lex: Hmm. And how about this other thing? Mear: Right, multiple dimensions. Lex: But I really think not enough people appreciate this other thing. Mear: MULTI-DIMENSIONAL.
Germany pulled out of the The Central Banking System and kicked Rothschild out. That's a big reason why the war happened. England and France didn't declare war on Russia when it went into Poland. Think, read, and listen critically.
Germany encouraged Austria to declare war on Serbia, promising unconditional support. Germany forced its way through neutral Belgium and invaded France. But you're right, Austria shares a lot of culpability, it was keen to eliminate Serbia as a regional threat.
Fact: The harsher treatment of Russians compared to the English and French was not only during WW2, but also during WW1, so this behavior was not reserved only for the Nazis-Bolsheviks.
Any man that survived the trenches of WW1 for four years and repeatedly after being wounded wanted to go back not only has my respect, but it says a lot about his thinking.
Question! September 1939, Hitler invades Poland, England and France declared war. 17 days later Russia invades Poland from the east. Why didn't France & England declare war on Russia?
Yes and this is why Russia wants this to never happen again. If you have agressive military alliance, like NATO, getting closer and closer to your territory the same route as previous invasions were cunducted - then it is time to worry...
Fascinating conversation... Without internet & these interviews..we'd all remain in the manufactured ignorance..public education has intentionally inflicted on society.. Free speech, objectivity, and open dialogue..may keep humanity from repeating the horrors of the 20th century.. however, with the current western political class, I'm not so sure..
Definitely listen to other viewpoints on World War I, Holocaust, and Russia/Ukraine. You're not going to listen to some guy Johnny on RUclips comments however other well respected scholars will have very different views than Mearshimer, who I believe is wrong about almost everything.
Why did Hitler start World War Two? Isn’t this question based on a false premise? The last time that I checked, the history books stated that it was Britain and France who declared war on Germany in 1939.
And he had invaded other European countries prior to that. And Japan had already started their war against China. I think the question here is, why do you think WW2 started when the British and French got involved and not Poland? Or China or any of the other European countries?
Mearsheimer conveniently overlooks the brutality Germany suffered at the hands of the Allies in 1919-22 that lead to the starvation and abject poverty of millions of people in Germany during the 1920s. Hitler didn't Invent German anger and the Germans didn't imagine what Britain and France did to them after the Firwt World War.
If you’re going to use the word “Soviets” in lieu of “Russians” to recognize different times, could you please also use “Nazis” instead of “Germans” (or Nazi Germany) when appropriate? It’s just more polite. Thanks John.
Russia was one of a number of republics that together made up the USSR - the Soviet Union, which was one country. Thus it is correct to refer to use the word ‘Soviets’ before 1991, unless you are referring specifically to Russians. The vast majority of Germans were NOT members of the Nazi Party, even during WWII.
@@hegemonersmith1048 you are correct about the Soviets (Soviet Russia), but as Germany was ruled by the Nazi party during that time period (ie Nazi Germany), and Nazi Germany at that point incorporated what is today a number of different countries, it makes sense to refer to them as Nazis or Nazi Germany.
There were also other nationalities in the Ussr. Not only Russians. And Ukrainians. And it’s good to never forget that there was quite an amount of Ukrainians fighting on the Nazi side against the Soviets.
How could the German Generals have been so wrong the sheer size of Russia, a logistical impossibility, then add the weather by November 1941 the Germans came to a stand still literally frozen. The Germans had lost almost 1,000,000 soldiers by the close of 1941. Then in December 1941 Hitler declares war on the USA a few days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour the Russians did the fighting whilst America provided much of the munitions. Germany lost the war on the the 22nd of June 1941 a fateful decision that doomed them. The rest between 22nd June 1941 and 8th May 1945 was the play out of a non reversible decision played out to it’s cataclysmic end involving the pain and catastrophe of millions of individual lives…so sad. I end where I started how could supposed military experts the German Senior Officers trained to the highest level have not categorically objected to such a ludicrous folly. Absolutely crazy.
Hitler calculated they could take the Soviet Union in 10 weeks! The winter conditions weren’t even considered. Madness. Also Hitler did not expect the US, instead of taking japan, to focus on Germany as japan couldn’t survive without Germany! Makes sense to take out Germany. I can’t remember the dates but I read that Hitler was in poor health and his doctor did not expect him to live very long. It makes sense he made some rash decisions, trying to hurry things up as he wanted to win the war before he died.
Or in the case of Gaza a desire for land with people already living on it. The history of Israel and the Zionists is all about ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and taking over their land going back to 1948. And yes the Zionist perpetrators view themselves as the victims.
My grandfather was an officer in the red army and a Nazi too, another reason that made him fight unconditionally was the way the leader handled himself im talking about Stalin. (1) When Germans were just out of Moscow the com and center with generals moved to a different city and suggested Stalin leave, but he refused and stood in the Kremlin Moscow. (2) Stalin had two sons, both were in the Army and went to war. (2) nazis captured Stalin’s son, that was a military pilot they wanted to exchange his son for a high-rank German general that was in soviet prison, Stalin rejected this by saying I can't exchange a soldier for a general.
My uncle was shot fighting against Germany in ww2. He showed me his wound when I was eight years old. I’ll never forget that. He suffered his entire life. I encountered an elderly German immigrant on a golf course years ago. He was in his eighties. I asked him if he was a member of the Hitler youth. He said he was. I asked him if they really believed in Hitler. He said they were totally in support of him and that he was their hero. In jest I told him he was just a damned Nazi. We both laughed. War seems to be part of the human condition. Jealousy, revenge,greed etc. never ends. It started early. Cain killed Abel out of jealousy. Not going to end folks! Nuff said.
The USA has done more damage to the world than Nazis. How many of the current conflicts in Africa or South America, or the Near East were created by the Nazis and not Americans, English, Soviets, or French? The irony about your point is, you neglected to realise that while you sought to accuse that old man, you belong to something far worse.
I understand and almost entirely agree with Professor Mearsheimer's wide array of analyses of the various modern great power geopolitical dynamics that have transpired throughout the 20th century and now well into the early 21st century I understand his explanation as to why he thinks that Britain should not be counted among the great 20th century powers along with the USA, the USSR, and Germany. I can then speculate and infer, while proceeding from his analysis about Britain, why Imperial Japan, notwithstanding her mighty ascension during the first half of the 20th century, also should not be counted alongside the "big three" either. However, I would very much like to hear Professor Mearsheimer expressly articulate his own analysis as to why he does not consider Japan to have been among the great powers of the 20th century --even at her pinnacle moment, roughly speaking, between1937 and 1943.
It's an interesting question. Here's a potential explanation. Britain's power came from economic dominance (and the fleet) and after WWI it had lost that predominant economic power. Britain for centuries had been able to finance continental powers to fight against the continental hegemon but had lost this critical tool, all it had left was a fleet, colonial forces to deploy and the English Channel. Britain could not have defeated Germany without the US. Japan wasn't even capable of conquering Hawaii, let alone invading the US West Coast. Japan could slap around minor colonial formations in Malaya and Indonesia but could not defeat a very weak China.
Yeah, you've certainly made a number of valid points in assessing Imperial Japan's actual force projection capabilities. One point that you didn't mention is the fact that their army took on the Soviets twice and got trounced both times. They had a very powerful navy, possibly even the most powerful in the world for a very short period of time. They sure raised hell in the Pacific and Asia for a few years that included a kind of "bicycle blitzkrieg' form of land warfare, backed up by the navy and air arm. But their power projection was very unstable, and they couldn't seem to lock down any of their conquests beyond their own immediate regional waters and land masses. Perhaps the reason for that is one and the same as the reason behind their penchant for conquest in the first place -they had to travel far and wide to procure the basic natural resources required to achieve and sustain a great power status. All their force projection efforts were consumed just sustaining their force projection capacity. A vicious cycle. @@charlesiragui2473
@@jameswaugh8339 I think that's right: they had to become really aggressive to have a great power status and that aggresivity overexposed them. Classic case is the invasion of China. What was the purpose other than to feed the national thirst for domination and supremacist ideology? China didn't solve their resource situation. Probably their worst decision was to attack the US in Dec 1941 rather than attacking the USSR from behind. The Army wanted to attack the USSR and the Navy wanted to attack the US (each one driven by the same thirst for "glory"?). The last thing the Army needed was another enemy but this was in fact the moment when the USSR could well have cracked, as the transferred Far Eastern troops ended up saving Moscow from the Germans. Had the Germans actually taken Moscow, the USSR probably would have been cooked, because the entire train system of the country ran out of Moscow. Had the Germans controlled the trains, they would not have had anywhere near the logistics problems that they did. Lucky for us that the Imperial Army lost that 1941 debate in Japanese HQ.
All facts correct; a good analysis too. The word I was groping for to describe Japan's power projection predicament is "they were unable to 'consolidate' their territorial gains. The reasons for this are complex, but one critical element clearly seems to be that when the Japanese were conducting a defensive operation, as we all know too well, they all too often resorted to mass suicidal tactics. No military force can rely on such tactics for very long@@charlesiragui2473
I thought Germany tried to go through Ukraine to get to Baku and the oil there and that allies stopped that. That might have changed the outcome if they were successful with that, but it was far away. I think that was in the "Why We Fight" TV series, which might have been more propaganda narrative, but I think that was true that they were fuel limited.
The Nazis had greater success in July 1932 Reichstag elections (than in the November 1932 Reichstag elections 4 months later), winning 230 seats, became the largest party. By July 1932 Hitler was very popular throughout large sections of Germany, but you're right, he failed to win an overall majority of the popular vote.
Pfffft this guest proved himself to be a complete joke when he said A.H. Wasn’t a charismatic leader, and he was the most murderous leader in history. Saying this type of nonsense in 2023 just proves A.H’s point about so-called democracies around the world whose leaders care not for the interests of the citizenry, and the newspapers which shape and control public opinion, owned by a few, who are all serving the dollar, so ultimately money controls these alleged democracies, and the rootless international clique which conducts its business everywhere, having allegiance to no country. It’s absolutely correct, and as those so called democracies only the white nations are now being intentionally invaded by 3rd world migrants, destroying the culture, destroying those nations, turning them into non-white nations, and demographically destroying the whites which built the entire 1st world which we all enjoy today. Indeed, A.H. Was correct about the internationalists.
Sounds like the great reset that you’re talking about. The planned extinction of whites. Only 500million people left alive, 50k Japanese, 50k Chinese because they are easily controlled and immigrants destroying the 1st world. Like bruh, every neighboring country in Europe hates each other, what do people expect when complete strangers are in our vicinity??? Klaus Schwab is a monster and he’s definitely just a puppet. We’re so f’d.
So many bad historical interpretations. WW1 was certainly wanted by multiple nations, not only Germany. And nowadays we know that Versailles led to Hitler and WW2. What a bad simplification, I would’ve expected better.
Agreed, before World War I the Germans excepted the Jews with open arms and they flourished. After World War I something changed and the Germans started boycotting the Jews in there businesses, etc. What changed? The attitude changed after the treaty of Versailles with the Balfour Declaration.
The Will to Power insight is interesting, Hitler entered the public sphere with the intention of becoming Germanys leader; I dont think Bonaparte did. Bonaparte was ambitious in the sense that he wanted as much power and status as he could possibly get but, I don't think he conspired for leadership until he saw the opportunity.
Yea how stupid a comment was that? Not even close. Hitler probably isn't top ten genocidal. Maybe it's because he was killing Jews and this professor is Jewish?
Bro I came to comment that same thing too… This guy is scary uneducated and needs to spend a little more time in his history courses Stalin / Mao / khan Come off the head as just as equal To say they are worse is simple irrelevant But hitler is not 1 lol
he DIDNT start ww2, france and uk did, he tols the pols to give danzig back and they refused, invading them to regain previously held german territory is not 'starting ww2-.
That's not quite accurate. Of course ZOG-USA and Britain started WW2, but Germany and Russia had hatched a plan to invade Poland and remove it from the map which they did in September 1939. Germany conquered nearly half of Poland, and Russia a bit more than half. It wasn't just about taking back formerly German land.
@@johnwilliamson9657 The Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement (non-aggression pact) was not a partition of Poland unlike Britain’s Munich agreement. The agreement stipulated Russia would remain neutral on Poland (the Poles wanted this and it was implied by Britain at the time). More than this, the agreement was anti-German. In the case of war, it limited Germany’s advance in eastern Poland and excluded them from the Baltics. On 23 Aug, when the pact was signed, war had not yet broken out and it was far from inevitable. In fact, no one wanted war. Not Britain, not France, not Germany, or Russia or Italy or even Poland. Unlike Munich, it did not dictate the carving up Poland in any way. This is important. Its purpose was to isolate Poland diplomatically. Stalin and Hitler both assumed Britain-France would not go to war without Soviet alliance. Poland therefore would be compelled to negotiate over Danzig. If they remained defiant, they’d be forced to take Soviet aid. Everyone expected Poland to be reasonable. You can see how the war could have been averted, not triggered, by the pact.
Marxists destroyed Russia in 1917. And then they used it to destroy Europe with multiculturalism. After World War II, the USSR introduced Marxist propaganda into American schools and degenerated American unity. Today the Kremlin is ruled by the multiculturalist Putin, who is destroying Eastern Europeans with tanks. And in the West, Europeans are being destroyed by the NETFLIX AGENDA (MARXISM)!
Yes it was. Hitler used the tactic of just wandering out of parament so the goverment was a lame duck. But what Hindenburg and others could not see comming was the burning of the Richtag Hitler used the delcare emegeny rule. And THAT and only THAT made him a dictatory. The rules of germany was that the declaration of emergency was to be renewned in 1942. But that was easy too for Hitler since Germany was in a war..
@No_jews_allowed 😂 you're absolutely right But I have a question. A genuine one... Why does jew thing doesn't end man?! Forgive my ignorance, but Im ok to read your arguments, your perspective. I've seen the profile pic, but how do I know that's legit info? Also, what else can you tell me, besides that covid agenda thing?
First 40 seconds professor Merasheimer shows he has no idea of what he's talking about. Not even acquainted with one of the most important historians in America: Harry Elmer Barnes. What a shame today's academy
Full podcast episode: ruclips.net/video/r4wLXNydzeY/видео.html
Lex Fridman podcast channel: ruclips.net/user/lexfridman
Guest bio: John Mearsheimer is an international relations scholar at University of Chicago. He is one of the most influential and controversial thinkers in the world on the topics of war and power.
Way to legitimize Hitler.
Hitler was total evil but faced a Europe with Marxism exploding in every European nation. This major factor is really not covered in this video about Hitler
If he is, he shouldn't be.
King leopold of Belgium murdered 20 million people in the Congo, but for some reason is never brought up in the same conversation as Hitler. Can’t think why.
cuz it's not as important wehraboo
@@abrahamgn3614 ah another ZioNazi
cuz belgium is the headquarters for nato
You know why…
And Mao killed multiple times more people than Hitler did, but they're not the people who make the movies, control the news and run the banks so,,,, that's why
People often say “history is written by the victor”, yet they never question the history they’ve learned from the victors who wrote it.
Hitler literally said this because of the way World War 1 was framed by the rest of the world. Germany was provoked and then blamed.
That is true, why would you invite people who failed in life to sit in the circles of the winner. Hitler failed because his two great enemys had little to do with is problems. Thr commis did not screw Germany, and the Jews were zero threat to the Germany people. The war went well for the Germans until he invaded Russia and started rounding up the jews. That's qhen the Nazis begin to fall
You post this under any video on Hitler. You're a fanboy aren't you?😂
@@pietbiertappertje4529 I’m a fanboy of learning from history. We learn the best when we study the most reprehensible figures in history. And they deserve our closest examination because they are the losers we are taught to resent the most. If we can truly admit history is distorted by the lens of victor, then we should take that fact into consideration when we study history. If I am considered a Nazifanboi because I said “history is written by the victor”, then I am not the one who seems to be indoctrinated, those making the accusation are indoctrinated.
@user-sk7jt3pf1c I agree to the point that history will be distorted through this "lens" of the Victor. But if you make this comment under a video (in some cases under multiple 😉) about Hitler, without context. It sounds like you're saying, the "victor" made up the whole nazi ideology (and the destruction of human lives that came with it).
"Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in modern history"...has this dude never heard of Stalin or Mao?
Lol I know these guys are idiots.
Genghis Kahn literally k*lled off about 40 million people, which was 10% of the world population at the time.
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It's not a contest, k? Yeesh
@@brucemacmillan9581 I don't have the kind of mental disorder I would need to have in order to understand how on earth you reached that interpretation so I'm not even gonna try lol
If a history professor or an 'expert' states that "Hitler was the most recorded murderer in history" he has neither heard of Stalin, Leopold, Genghis or Mao - or chooses to forget them (for personal reasons i expect)
He's close enough that I'm willing to give him a pass. The number of deaths in WWII era is generally stated as 100 million - probably more people than the number that existed at the time of Genghis - If you include 1930 thru 1950 plus the reign of Mao, and throw in Pol Pot, we are looking at staggering numbers. WWII is generally seen as being started by Hitler, but the Japanese had been at it for several years in China before Hitler got going, and the Japanese were about as cruel.
You are propagandized into believing that Stalin was a mass murderer.
@@kaneinkansas Good points. Regardless of who is #1 history has been filled with murderous psychopaths - and they are still acting today
just proves the propaganda machine is in overdrive.
@@SmilingTiger67 I dont think mao murdered in the millions
I don't agree with his view on Napoleon being an aggressor. If you look at most of the "Napoleonic wars" they were largely provoked by the British. A large part of the wars were Napoleon fighting coalitions put together by the British so they could put the monarchy back on the throne, because they didn't agree with the French revolution
No sir, Napoleon was incredibly aggressive the french army invaded Portugal 3 times, and inflicted huge casualties and terror and desperation as well as looting… The Portuguese never did anything against France. The short guy was a maniac, a terrorist and a looter.
The Empire was involved in many wars!
100% true. Almost all of the wars of the coalitions against the French were started by the coalition. It was a reactionary coalition of absolute monarchies fighting against the ideology of the French revolution.
WW2 was also provoked by the British.
@@DrStench13 yes of course thanks for that
How can this guy say Hitler wasn’t charismatic? Watch ANY speech of his and you’ll see it’s like a work of amphetamine-induced theatre. German citizens were in awe.
Really though? He is very screamy... you need to remember that Hitler was never elected by the German people. He declared himself a dictator when they enacted emergency powers in the Reichstag after the fire in the place (they blamed this on Communists)... the Conservatives put him in place as the Chancellor because they thought they could control him and wanted to keep power through a bloc arrangement with the Nazi party. The Nazi party did not even get 40 or 50% of the full votes in the last free German elections and they were even using underhanded tactics to get the result they got (Goering was the minister of interior for Prussia and used local police to steer away other party voters from polling stations, etc.). He didn't seduce a nation, he took power.
that was very deliberate performance though, not the charisma and presence he was said to possess in person when not acting like a deranged prophet.
Exactly. Anyone that is capable of thinking for themselves knows this is complete nonsense. It took me all of 12 seconds to look this guy up and understand where his delusions come from.
Charisma is certainly subjective. He never said Hitler wasn't charismatic. He admitted "he" (John) didn't see any charisma, even though millions did. I'm in the same boat. Hitler induces nothing but revulsion in me. Zero charisma. I wouldn't even need to know what he was pushing to be inclined to reject it. Literally the antithesis of charisma.
It was fake charisma. Millions bought into it, but Mearsheimer sees through it. Hence why he disagreed.
Simple, the British were intimidated by German industry, the manufacturing and engineering were superior, there are many Churchill quotes declaring the empires disdain for the German competition.
Yes! Refreshing to see this. Imperial Germany had to be stopped before they dominated Europe through innovation, manufacturing, and commerce.
@@pharmdadfit well that was then, now Germany is well placed behind many other Asian countries in scale, volume and precision, but this rivalry was the clear cause of WW2
@@AugustusOmega deep resentment over the treaty of versailles by the German people was the cause of WW2. The treaty was so harsh against Germany to make them pay for the attrition of men lost and to knock them backwards economically because they were coming on so strong in the first part of the 20th century. They are once again a leader in Europe now in 2023 looking at GDP.
@@pharmdadfit of course, I have always argued this crippling document a relic from WW1 hamstrung German development and the rent seekers in London and Paris would not let go, because these funds somehow ended up in private hands. The French were human enough to concede their idiotic mistake and allowed Hitler to roll in easily, but the English got overheated and called for war...and London got the shellaccing it deserved. Hitler bombed the crap out of the English in 12 different shades of black and blue, they hid like rats in a sewer. Versailles was a reparation mistake that had to ultimately be forgiven if relations in the European region were to be normalized once more, but that didnt happen.
But Herr Hitler was no saint...his lust for power was obscene but Uncle Joe put a foot deep in his fat German aise 🤣😂😅
The real war was between the Germany and the Soviet Union. I can't conceive how bitter and nasty it must have been.
Rothschild empire vs Germany was actually the real war
I mean I'm pretty sure millions of dead Chinese and Japanese were in a real war too
Ian Kershaw said Hitler had formed an alliance with Stalin who he wanted to be his enemy and became an enemy of Britain who he wanted to be his ally. Also, Stalin was even more deceived. The Red Army trained the Germans in tank tactics and air warfare because the Versailles treaty forbade Germany from training its own forces. The Wehrmacht's early triumphs in Barbarossa were due to Stalin being too smart for his own good. He must have thought the Red Army's locations near the border wasn't going to lead Hitler to initiating an invasion.
Kershaw is highly subjective. I don't agree with any of his conclusions. Or let's say, only with very few of them
Had Hitler read Mackinder's geostrategics, he would have known there was no chance of an alliance with GB
“Imagine if Hitler won the area he would have committed mass atrocities” lol as if Mr Stalin didn’t already do that. It’s all so very strange
What hitler planned to do with Slavs was nowhere near to what Stalin did
Most Stories about Stalin are made up
Oh and what atrocities did Stalin commit in eastern Europe after WW2?
@@JohnKobaRuddy Stalin murdered
Tens of
Millions before the war started in Ukraine and then killed
More people during the war this isn’t disputed. If he was a saint after the war it’s irrelevant
@@JohnKobaRuddymillions were killed, tortured and oppressed in Eastern Europe after WW2. Hungarian revolution ring a bell? Czechoslovakia 1968?
When my father was working on his Hitler biography in 1973
I recalled him telling me how shocked he was when he met with Hitler's surviving
cousins and extended family and them telling him nobody ever came to talk
with any of them till my Dad did. It was strange meeting them as they all seemed
so ordinary. They survive to this day though they changed their last name after the war.
Would love to learn more from you about the stories they told
Wow
Marxists destroyed Russia in 1917. And then they used it to destroy Europe with multiculturalism. After World War II, the USSR introduced Marxist propaganda into American schools and degenerated American unity. Today the Kremlin is ruled by the multiculturalist Putin, who is destroying Eastern Europeans with tanks. And in the West, Europeans are being destroyed by the NETFLIX AGENDA (MARXISM)!
What is the title of your Dad's bio book?
@@keithad6485fictionary tales of a RUclips comment, I think that’s the name
Mearshimer says Hitler, and not Mao, or Stalin, was the most murderous leader?
Yes, a bit strange
I think he misspoke. He meant Hitler was one of the most murderous leaders in history, compared to Napoleon. He’s making a distinction between the two leaders, not necessarily claiming that Hitler is THE most murderous. At least that’s my interpretation given his expertise on military history.
It's not a contest, k? Yeesh
@@brucemacmillan9581 Uh, that's not even the point. Sheesh. He's an expert, a scholar, yada yada yada. He made a mistake. Idk why.
@@mikeyerian2562 He didn't make a mistake. The conversation was about Hitler, and particularly Hitler in comparison to Napoleon. Tho Stalin is mentioned later in the interview. But Stalin didn't start WW2. Hitler did. Of course Stalin didn't help with the stupid non-aggression pact he signed with Hitler before Hitler invaded Poland. If Stalin hadn't done that, maybe Hitler thinks twice about invading.
Mearsheimer: “Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in recorded history.” Really? What about Stalin or Mao?
This conversation they have is so incredibly one sided lol
yes they are realy stupidifying the topic
Yes .But those people you mentioned killed thier own people.they never invaded any country
Oh really, did USSR not attack
Finland??
@@heikkijhautanen4576 & they stopped once they got that little bit of land to protect the St Petersburg flank.
Didn’t Patton say we fought the wrong enemy
Yeah because we did lol propaganda convinced everyone to kill the Germans who honestly were the last hope for Western civilization. Now look at the west
Patton was an idiot...
And a lot more. You can read up on it Target Patton. It also features the confession of his assassin.
Yes...
So what's the full quote?
The Bolsheviks and Leninist always get a pass. Why aren’t they talked about more?
Watch the video, they don't.
Because a lot of the people in control of media productions like this have sympathies for, if not outright ties to them.
@@jmcknight00 like Elon Musk you mean?
Perhaps for the same reasons few people mention segregation or the lynching of colored folks in the US at this time.
True it must be a reason they are given a pass
I can't take anyone, who claims the German empire was responsible for WW1 or the third Reich for WW2 seriously... Shows a lack of differentiation and objectivness, which is imperative in the science of history.
You're absolutely right, the winners make and tell the story
I think most people blame the third reich for ww2 (Poland? Anyone?) idk about ww1 though.
@@batistasmith5565 thats what the high school books tell you, in reality Bolsheviks funded by Jews were dressing up as NAZI soldiers and doing wrong doings all around Europe, which triggered Hitler to stop it starting in Poland.
How Germany was not primarily responsible for the Second World War? Was it not German responsability when Czechoslovakia was annexed? Or the barbaric invasion of Poland?
We can't point the finger to French and English like they killed those 17 millions because their harsh terms destabilised Germany too much
@@eliasbonafe9236you need to watch and study history from both sides, neither Germany started it, nor it was reaponsible. Just google “adolf hitler: the man who fought the banks” that short video will open your eyes so much, you will thank me later
JM is a great argument for the necessity of counter factual thinking. I find myself disagreeing with his takes constantly, but always appreciate how he forces me to back up all my own takes and assumptions.
What are you disagreeing with him about?
I'd be curious too, what do you disagree with JM about? I've disagreed with him recently about his vision of Israel and Palestine.
@@justgivemethetruth in what way re: Israel & Palestine?
@@aleksadodic5102
I don't think Israel has any choice in what they do. I don't particularly like and I rarely agree with Elon Musk, but even he understood ( after all his previous anti-semitic ramblings ) ... “There's no choice but to kill those who insist on murdering civilians” - Elon Musk
Also the writings and experience of Mosab Hassan Yousef, the Green Prince, Son Of Hamas are very compelling in explaining from the inside what Islam is, what Hamas is, and how do view and respond to it. We have millions of people in the world stuck in a 7th century BS ideology trying to re-emerge in the present day chaos to take over.
@@justgivemethetruth Totally disagree. Israel/occupied/conquered Palestinian territory using political lobbying and military power - they see themselves as nation chosen by God and that they have a God given claim on the territory (in what way is that less radical than Islam) - they are ethnic cleansing the Palestinian territories and they have created an apartheid state. How would you react if someone came and occupied your homeland - would you call your actions against the occupier an act of terrorism or rebellion?
Sorry, but even as a kid when I was quite new at school and heard for the first time that a Serb in Serbia killed the heir apparent of Austria and because of this a war startet and became a world war and in the end Germany was condemned as the only guilty, I was puzzled and thought that I must have missed something crucial.
Today I experienced being lied to on so many levels , I’m convinced that this is kind of the usual politics. I still do not know what happened though I’ve learned a lot and have some questions. But still this big war with the intermediate of 20 years is a taboo, especially if you are a German.
At the moment world is changing and a lot of truth is being revealed. We will have to wait another two or five years then a lot of the history of the 20th Century will be explainable. It all will unravel .
The reason it is blamed on Germany is that the war would not have become a World War had Germany not declared war on Russia.
This is the timeline:
Franz Ferdinand was assassinated -> Austria Hungary declared war on Serbia -> Russian Empire declared war on Austria Hungary, because they were a close ally of Serbia -> Germany, having a mutual defense treaty with Austria Hungary, declared war on Russia -> France, having a treaty with Russia, declared war on Germany
If Germany had never declared war on Russia, it would've remained a war between Austria-Hungary and Russia, that's the logic behind blaming the Germans. It's stupid, because really it was Austria Hungary's fault for invading Serbia, but Germany helped in escalating the conflict.
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 then I can say that if Russia never declared war on Austria Hungary then the war would've never started either. So it's Russia's fault by the logic you're using
@@watchingyoutube5093 Did you read what I said? I wasn't defending the logic, I was explaining it.
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 I did read what you said, I’m suggesting that surely that can’t be the reason that germany is blamed? that would make 0 sense
@@everynameiwantedwastoolong6887 Russia attacking Austria-Hungary also helped in escalating the conflict
I like how after this segment he goes onto explain how Putin/ Russia didn't start the Ukraine war, as if Germany didn't have any "legitimate security concerns" in Czechia and Poland, the same way that he says Russia does in Ukraine.
also germany did not start ww1, this is such a huge propaganda segment lmao
If you're comparing the Ukraine-Russia war to Germany's invasion of Poland then you might want to listen to this segment
German people were being slaughtered in Poland before the invasion thats true.
Hitler did not even want this war. He wanted a corridor to Danzig (German city that was taken as a result of Treaty of Versailles) and made quite good proposals to Poland. Poland rejected them and this resulted in attack on Poland in 1939 September 1st. Also Poland mobilized their army first partly on August 25 and then again in August 31.
@@oussamaelbaz5932 I did, its the most generic no detailed nonsense compared to his explanations of "NATO expansion led Putin to invade Ukraine". If John was a bit more knowledgeable he could say the exact same thing for Germany "Chamberlain's 'Peace Front' encirclement policy led to Germany invading Poland".
I may not always agree with Professor John Meishmeimer but I ALWAYS LISTEN CLOSELY to him.
RS. Canada
But the problem is that he only have OLD knowledge. There are far better historicans than him. Why they still call him I don't know. I guess it it because they are aware of that people WANT HIM to tell the old samme story even it is not correct.
richardsimms/ your knee pads must be worn out
The alliance system caused WWI, Germany was no more to blame than the others. Really Austria intransigence over it’s demands to Serbia caused things to lead to the Alliance snowball issue.
Willy and Nicky played the game 'whose thing is bigger'.
If Great Britian hadn't declared war after the Germans and Russians split Poland WW2 would of been completely different.
there would have been no war in the western theatre at all, its churchills fault that ww2 turned into the insanity that we call ww2 mostly. Had Britain gotten another leader instead of the stupid drunkard Churchill they most likely would have sued for peace and ended it right there.
Once Hitler was done with SU he'll turn his attention on France.There wouldn't be peace in the west without him getting back Alsace Lorraine.There would've been war with the west regardless.
TRUE WORDS
"What a wonderful world it would be"
Two jews discussing their archenemy, who still lives rent free in their heads despite the total defeat of Germany and the death of millions of Germans. Surely this information will be accurate.
The hatred of the Nazis towards Jews was real, the concentration camps and the gas chambers were real as was the holocaust. So yes I can understand if Jews were to feel some bias against the Nazis, they would not be human otherwise. However, there are many eminent and honest Jewish scholars of the history of the Third Reich so we should not, out of hand, dismiss their views. Having said that Mearsheimer is a brilliant scholar but Third Reich is not his area of expertise.
Jewish nepotism does not allow logic to be expressed to the masses.
Bravo! I'm surprised this comment hasn't been deleted by Jew funded RUclips already lmao.
cry about it fascist
LoL. I’m sure we’re gonna get a nonpartisan historical account of Hitler with these two.
You should’ve done the Piers Morgan “Do you condemn the acts of…” shtick…
Piers is so basic
"Probably the most murderous leader in recorded history" Love how Stalin never seems to get mentioned.. Oh wait, Because History is written by the Victors..
Thus recorded history is flawed..
Or because under Stalin, almost all nkvd was made by the tribe they represent. And yes, they've killed millions from 1917 in all eastern Europe
His retelling of history is flawed. Anyone with Internet access and half a brain can learn about the atrocities by the communist that are conveniently left out of the classroom
how can he say Hitler was not charismatic??? Who on earth was more charismatic than Hitler?
That's not what he said. He said he didn't find him charismatic, but that people in his time and place did. Charisma is in the eye of the beholder.
Jesus
because theyre jews lol
kanye west
Obama
The Treaty of Versailles was a gross and absurd overreach.
In hindsight of course it appears that way. Put yourself in the shoes of those who wrote it.
@ I’ve tried. It was beyond reproach to punish the people of Germany for the sins of their government to that absurd degree.
I remember speaking with a coworker about the topic of World War 2 and mentioning that the events that occurred during the war, specifically with The Third Reich, are very interesting and fascinating to learn about.
He looked at me as if I said “inspiring”. Some conversations just can’t be discussed with some people.
I don't think that a capture of Moscow would have resulted in a German victory.
We see that Napoleon invade and burnt Moscow to the ground.
Yet, the French were slaughtered on the way out and ended up losing big.
Military technology was drastically different from Napoleonic times and WW2. Taking Moscow would've absolutely been a German victory.
@@lucasgrey9794Stalin would have continued to rule beyond the Urals. He had the government evacuated to Samara.
The Russians burnt down Moscow to force the French to journey in the winter
@@nazmul_khan_ Rule what exactly? The Germans control the industrial and resource areas of Russia leaving Stalin to rule what?
@@nazmul_khan_ True, very true. The Russian resistance was amazing. Unconquerable people.
I find it funny that Lex romanticizes bravery of Russians when they are renown of deploying murder squads to kill those fleeing battle.
He must be slavic
20 MILLION Russians died in WW2 compared to 6M J and 1M combined from other nations…it’s why this is such a big holiday in R. Get over your Russ phobia it was cultivated by propaganda to keep the war machine going…we should be moving to diplomacy instead of wars
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The Red Army was pretty murderous itself.
No they aren’t, that’s just Western propaganda. It was the nazi SS who were renowned for doing that.
I’m fascinated by World War II and Hitler like a vast majority of people and I’ve exhausted all the documentaries and a lot of reading material but I found this podcast answered a lot of questions I hadn’t previously heard so thank you this was great
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Then I will recomend TIK for you. He is much better than this guy. TIK document that Germany was 2 months from bankerupt each time Hitler decieded to invade another country.
Both these two are not going to give a non biased opinion on hitler.
Where does King Leopold II of Belgium stand in this spectrum of congenital aggressors?
why do you NPC's keep spamming this? 😂 Go watch a video about fucking Belgium if that's what you want to hear
this whole comparrison doesnt ad up. One was a full scale war and the other was a genocide. So Numbers of dead people arent the only thing matters. If, we should talk about Mao, Stalin and others as well. But WW2 was something else. Completly new. King leopold killed a lot over years. Most people in WW2 died during 1942-1945. So its the whole dynamic that makes WW2 special.
He was okay I think.
The Romans were also brutal killers, the wiped out entire ethic groups in what is now France, all under the orders of Julio's Cesar who many praise and we even have a month called after him, yet nobody mentions his ethic cleansing.
Leopold comes in 4th after Mao, Stalin and Hitler.
Lex needed to read way more about this subject matter before he tried to disagree with a guy of this guest's stature
Lex is a child, he has the mentality of a 5 year old.
Now both of you hold your horses
Thanks to Lex’s podcast we had access to John’s wisdom and knowledge!
@@cristianbiro4024 Mearsheimer is a Chicago University professor who has been saying this for over a decade now, and he has been on more professional, mature, logical and intelligent RUclips channels.
I suggest you watch his University Lecture in 2015 here in RUclips, or see him with the Duran, or with Judge Napolitano. Real adult and smart discussions over Lex "leaders and love, and peace."🤡🤣
Indeed, so Lex could push back on everything Mearshimer gets wrong (just about everything)
@@timmy-wj2hclol what? That's a rough statement... Can you elaborate?
I want to comment on Professor Mearsheimer's comparison of Russian success in the case of Napoleon's and Hitler's invasions and the 1st World War failure of the Russian Army. In two former cases, there was strong leadership. In the latter case, there was a disintegration of leadership - a coup in Moscow when Tzar Nicolas was ousted from power, et cetera. Thanks to Professor Mearsheimer and Lex for the interesting discussion.
Mearsheimer leaves out very important details. His explanations are very general. Even stereotypical. For someone with so much literature penned in his name, one would expect greater articulation.
Is it the case maybe that he’s not saying stuff you’ll rather he did since that would fit in with your world view❓
Nice interview, but a shame that such learned individuals don't make mention of Greece's role in the German failure to conquer the Soviet Union. Mussolini's invasion of Greece was a massive failure as the Greeks scored the first Allied victory on European soil in Autumn 1941. As a result, Hitler had to delay Operation Barbarossa in order to lend aid to the Italians and Albanians attacking Greece, which subsequently led the Germans to get decimated by the ensuing Russian winter
Not entirely true
11:20 It may have been that what happened was that the Soviets were brought up against a cliff edge. The soviets either fight for their lives, or they die. Literally only 2 options. They chose to fight for their very existence. The Germans were tired, and frozen in the snow. Of the 2 motivations, which one would overwhelm?
It's like he says in the interview, survival it's what matters.
And pure numbers but yes I do agree
The Soviets were months away from invading mainland Europe.
That is a primitive conclusion. The germas was not stopped by the russians in front of Moscou. They were just run out of fuel. And because US startede to send supply to russian the russian was just faster to rebuild offensive capapcity faster than the germans and then... well then the war was just lost...
“Hitler was probably the most murderous leader in record history”
*Mao Zedong has entered the chat
*Joseph Stalin has entered the chat
*Genghis Khan has entered the chat
Hilarious
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Imperial Germany was not “largely” responsible for starting World War One. They were certainly a part of It but many nations were equally if not more responsible. Comparing that to World War Two where they were 100% responsible is kinda crazy.
yeah, I stopped watching the video at that point which was during the first minute. Too biased for me to care what else he has to say.
Totally true...reading "The sleepwalkers" shows that
100% responsible? Lmao
Guest is too boomer to question some things.
More than anything, WWI was caused by the insane amount, and content of, all those crazy European Treaties!
He thought that the Soviets would be the first to break the pact to attack Germany while they're fighting England in the West. In his mind, delaying the inevitable meant to give Soviets more time to prepare for an assault. This is how he convinced his generals.
Guys, that was really excellent and insightful. First time I've heard Mearsheimer speak outside of the context of the 2022 war.
Peter Ustinov, the great British actor and raconteur, actually saw Hitler give a speech in the flesh and he admitted he was scared of the mans ability to charm his audience then almost spellbind them. Ustinov said he felt scared because he made him, for a second or two, believe what he said.
It's a pity Ustinov didn't realise that what he was being told by Mr H was largely true.
Oh yeah hahahaha Great British actor with Russian/Eastern European name and last name, boo fking hoo. Another trash propaganda.
As the great granddaughter of a Russian soldier who fought in both world wars, losing also his son and son-in-law, I heard so many heartbreaking stories from my great granddad about the senselessness of war… I feel like at least 2 subsequent generations of Europeans, especially Russians, grew up with huge scars and trauma from the war and losing family members in the war. I still hear my grandma’s stories about the hunger blockade in my ears every time I see food being wasted. I have lived in Russia, in Germany, in the UK and now in the US, but will always consider myself European before anything else. I can’t understand how whole nations can be dragged into this fanatic state of mind and that’s why it totally breaks my heart to see Russia follows in Germany’s footsteps nowadays in Ukraine… My family, who have lost so much during the WWII are now shouting from their rooftops the same kind of fanatic propaganda that drove the Germans into creating the monster of Hitler… It physically pains me to see history repeating, my poor granddad and great granddad are probably turning in their graves now… May there be peace one day for all of us ❤
Good point but you won't get too many thumbs up for it, too many Russia bots and US maga crowd keyboard warriors for the Professor's anti-US crusade.
Another Vlasovite
War will not go away until Jesus fights the final war: Armageddon (Revelation 19-20)
@@TheRootedWord War will never end as it is the highest manifestation of human predatory instinct.
Putin is following in the footsteps of Ivan IV by claiming Kyiv, Poland-Lithuania, Livonia (Estonia-Latvia) as part of Russia's patrimony.
Every time you learn about WWII, you see how close and similar the Israeli mindset is to (or at least influenced by) the Nazis, starvation plan is just one example, and when you read the systematic Israeli propaganda, you realize that every accusation is a confession.
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Pretty stupid argument, but I'm not surprised with a name like that. Germans were natives to their land, Israelis are not. The Germans were not allowed to recover their historical land, Israelis were allowed under the international eye to steal Palestinian and other lands for decades. When we go to concentration camps, Germans were killed in concentration camps by Allied nations even after the war, I don't see Palestinians killing Jews in concentration camps yet, that might be a similarity.
What was similar though was the feeling of persecution since many like to overlook the fact that there had been consistent attacks on German minorities in the world, in Russia for example the anti-German sentiment saw the Volga Germans religiously and culturally persecuted even before Bolshevism, and in my country of South Africa German schools were dissolved after the English illegally invaded the Boer Republics. I would say both had good reasons to feel persecuted, whether I agree completely with their actions resulting from the fact is a different matter.
wrong , blame the people who do not want peace in the middle east
@@TheoOosthuizen-xs2nq do you recommend any channels/books/vids for someone who’s new to critically questioning every narrative the west has ever told them?
The Israelis are much, much worse.
Excellent discussion with people who have clearly studied the subject matter. The lack of ignorance was refreshing
I feel like this is a classic discussion where both people lack knowledge on the subject, though Mearsheimer is obviously the more intelligent of the two with his guesses.
- First of all, if you want to understand WW2 and the German actions, you have to understand the German way of war, which is military science. This is a topic that Mearsheimer isn't aware of, and is the domain of military officers and analysts. Germany or Prussia always relied on quick offensives because Prussia was always surrounded by enemies and had to act quick to prevent a disastrous two front war. So they designed their whole thinking around perpetual and swift offense. The belief being, forget about a long campaign and attrition war, and instead smash the enemy's military in large battles with large enveloping and pincer movements along with combined arms. In fact the modern warfare learned by the USA does the same thing and is inspired by the Nazi doctrines (ie: US Marine actions in Iraq and how they smashed the Iraqis).
- Second of all, saying Germany blatantly caused both WW1 and WW2 is a dumb stereotypical thing to say by Mearsheimer. Especially hypocritical when his analysis of the Ukraine war is much more in depth and shows that multiple factors made the situation worse.
- Mearsheimer says that from the beginning, Germans were mass murdering Russian POWs. This is BS, there is no evidence of that. Russian POWs were "housed" on large open fields, and often dealt with starvation and famine, because Germans had no facilities to take care of over 1 million POWs. But they weren't just mass shot for fun or something. Also this wasn't a factor that somehow motivated the Russians to fight harder. This is just nonsense. Russians won not through "motivation" but through larger reserves, and the German army overextending itself on the mass of Russia. Finally the Russians won through effective counter offensives that were simply well done.
- Mearsheimer keeps saying "Thank God they lost" which shows a heavy degree of bias, especially ironic since Americans then fought a 40 year cold war against the USSR and would have dreamed to be on the outskirts of Moscow like the Germans were. Americans doing it = Good, Germans doing it = Bad, according to Mearsheimer.
Well, to your last point, it is the biggest plus that the Americans and the Soviets ever had, that they didnt turn their coldwar into a hotwar. That fact shows their moral superiority to nazi Germany.
Thanks for your comment. I did not watch the video except for the first 40 seconds; you are confirming the suspicion I had right then.
When I read their names I knew where this was going, as usual mainstream blabla. Not many Jews love the truth.
I agree
Seems like no germans tell their side. Too much bias by the winners
@@jarrodnunn There are actually competent German historians who wrote many excellent books on all this, but the language barrier means they're never featured on the internet.
number of clips can tell he is learning a lot.
Why no talk of the central bankers role in these wars?
u know why lol
On the heath a little flower blooms, and it's name........ERIKA
Met an elderly woman in Berchtesgaden, she was sad, frowned and then she said she cooked him breakfast once
You don't need to analyze Hitler's mind, you already have Bebe Netanyahu.
C.E. Wood "Mud: a military history"....
the mud was inevitable and the machines simply werent built for
mud, frozen tundra did not outright stop the blitzkrieg contrary to lore.
dope book
Exactly. Winter didn’t halt Barbarossa, the Red Army and Rasputitsa did.
I don't know if it's up to me, but sitting in that position as Lex sits while talking to the professor is quite disrespectful. You invited a guest to your podcast, at least have the courtesy to look like you care about what your guest is saying.
hes very casual in his interviews. Nothing disreapectful at all.
I just watched Europa, the last battle. It gives a whole new perspective on both Word wars and who started them.
Don’t fall into the rabbit wholesome where they blame everything on the Jews. It’s a bad doc, full of misinformation.
Stopped watching after he said Germany was at fault for WW1 and looking at the comments, I think I did the right thing
Lex: How about this other thing?
Mear: Well yes, it's multi-dimensional.
Lex: Hmm. And how about this other thing?
Mear: Right, multiple dimensions.
Lex: But I really think not enough people appreciate this other thing.
Mear: MULTI-DIMENSIONAL.
Germany pulled out of the The Central Banking System and kicked Rothschild out. That's a big reason why the war happened.
England and France didn't declare war on Russia when it went into Poland. Think, read, and listen critically.
Exactly.
How/where can I read more on this?
@@Chaza117the creature from Jekyll island
@@JackMontara Thank you. 🤲 god bless.
well said.
Germany never started ww1 it was Austria who declared war on the Serbs then Germany entered as ally to Austria and Russia for the Serbs. Get it right!
Germany encouraged Austria to declare war on Serbia, promising unconditional support. Germany forced its way through neutral Belgium and invaded France. But you're right, Austria shares a lot of culpability, it was keen to eliminate Serbia as a regional threat.
Austria would have not attacked Serbia if Germany had not directed them and gave them the green light.
@@vistaverde77 how does that mean they started the war? It does not
@@adnanfetibegovic8491 Germany started the wider conflict (beyond Austria/Serbia) by marching through Belgium and invading France.
Some random Serbs started WW1
It is quite a contrast how the Nazis treated the French so well and the Slavs so badly.
Not sure what that was all about.
Racial hierarchy, the core belief behind National Socialism.
The rate of hostile Partisans on the eastern front was much higher.
It was reciprocal escalation
The slavs fought back
Fact: The harsher treatment of Russians compared to the English and French was not only during WW2, but also during WW1, so this behavior was not reserved only for the Nazis-Bolsheviks.
Any man that survived the trenches of WW1 for four years and repeatedly after being wounded wanted to go back not only has my respect, but it says a lot about his thinking.
Question! September 1939, Hitler invades Poland, England and France declared war. 17 days later Russia invades Poland from the east. Why didn't France & England declare war on Russia?
Because they were zionist-controlled, or at least the US and UK were by then.
why should they, they dont care about Poland. Brits just wanted a war with germany.
Yes and this is why Russia wants this to never happen again. If you have agressive military alliance, like NATO, getting closer and closer to your territory the same route as previous invasions were cunducted - then it is time to worry...
Fascinating conversation... Without internet & these interviews..we'd all remain in the manufactured ignorance..public education has intentionally inflicted on society..
Free speech, objectivity, and open dialogue..may keep humanity from repeating the horrors of the 20th century.. however, with the current western political class, I'm not so sure..
Definitely listen to other viewpoints on World War I, Holocaust, and Russia/Ukraine. You're not going to listen to some guy Johnny on RUclips comments however other well respected scholars will have very different views than Mearshimer, who I believe is wrong about almost everything.
Yeah don’t count on it. We have monkey brains with god like technology. Until one of those things changed we will eventually kill most of us off.
Why did Hitler start World War Two? Isn’t this question based on a false premise? The last time that I checked, the history books stated that it was Britain and France who declared war on Germany in 1939.
WW2 began when that monster invaded Poland on September 1, 1939 under false pretense.
And he had invaded other European countries prior to that. And Japan had already started their war against China. I think the question here is, why do you think WW2 started when the British and French got involved and not Poland? Or China or any of the other European countries?
Imperial Germany "largely responsible for starting WWI"? Has he even ever read a history book? Or does this just make him feel more comfortable?
What do you expect from one of “them”
This guy starts with saying imperial Germany was largely responsible for WW1..
Mearsheimer conveniently overlooks the brutality Germany suffered at the hands of the Allies in 1919-22 that lead to the starvation and abject poverty of millions of people in Germany during the 1920s. Hitler didn't Invent German anger and the Germans didn't imagine what Britain and France did to them after the Firwt World War.
The losers of a war usuaaly get a rough deal though?
@@cammurphy744 Not to that extent
If you’re going to use the word “Soviets” in lieu of “Russians” to recognize different times, could you please also use “Nazis” instead of “Germans” (or Nazi Germany) when appropriate? It’s just more polite. Thanks John.
Russia was one of a number of republics that together made up the USSR - the Soviet Union, which was one country. Thus it is correct to refer to use the word ‘Soviets’ before 1991, unless you are referring specifically to Russians. The vast majority of Germans were NOT members of the Nazi Party, even during WWII.
@@hegemonersmith1048 you are correct about the Soviets (Soviet Russia), but as Germany was ruled by the Nazi party during that time period (ie Nazi Germany), and Nazi Germany at that point incorporated what is today a number of different countries, it makes sense to refer to them as Nazis or Nazi Germany.
There were also other nationalities in the Ussr. Not only Russians. And Ukrainians. And it’s good to never forget that there was quite an amount of Ukrainians fighting on the Nazi side against the Soviets.
How could the German Generals have been so wrong the sheer size of Russia, a logistical impossibility, then add the weather by November 1941 the Germans came to a stand still literally frozen. The Germans had lost almost 1,000,000 soldiers by the close of 1941. Then in December 1941 Hitler declares war on the USA a few days after the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour the Russians did the fighting whilst America provided much of the munitions. Germany lost the war on the the 22nd of June 1941 a fateful decision that doomed them. The rest between 22nd June 1941 and 8th May 1945 was the play out of a non reversible decision played out to it’s cataclysmic end involving the pain and catastrophe of millions of individual lives…so sad. I end where I started how could supposed military experts the German Senior Officers trained to the highest level have not categorically objected to such a ludicrous folly. Absolutely crazy.
Hitler calculated they could take the Soviet Union in 10 weeks! The winter conditions weren’t even considered. Madness.
Also Hitler did not expect the US, instead of taking japan, to focus on Germany as japan couldn’t survive without Germany! Makes sense to take out Germany.
I can’t remember the dates but I read that Hitler was in poor health and his doctor did not expect him to live very long. It makes sense he made some rash decisions, trying to hurry things up as he wanted to win the war before he died.
This was a great way to keep WW2 conversation within allowable opinion. I enjoyed seeing where the guard rails are.
Next clip: Kylie's new lip gloss is a scam l John Mearsheimer and Lex Fridman
Every perpetrator views himself as the victim.
Most ethnic cleansing and massive crimes were committed based on some perciieved past grivences.
Or in the case of Gaza a desire for land with people already living on it. The history of Israel and the Zionists is all about ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians and taking over their land going back to 1948. And yes the Zionist perpetrators view themselves as the victims.
surely with last names such as these, we will get an honest and objective assessment of the topic at hand...
My grandfather was an officer in the red army and a Nazi too, another reason that made him fight unconditionally was the way the leader handled himself im talking about Stalin. (1) When Germans were just out of Moscow the com and center with generals moved to a different city and suggested Stalin leave, but he refused and stood in the Kremlin Moscow. (2) Stalin had two sons, both were in the Army and went to war. (2) nazis captured Stalin’s son, that was a military pilot they wanted to exchange his son for a high-rank German general that was in soviet prison, Stalin rejected this by saying I can't exchange a soldier for a general.
Stalin hated his son because he saw him as an embarrassment. It's still very unusual. He felt threatened by his son but not by his daughter.
My uncle was shot fighting against Germany in ww2. He showed me his wound when I was eight years old. I’ll never forget that. He suffered his entire life. I encountered an elderly German immigrant on a golf course years ago. He was in his eighties. I asked him if he was a member of the Hitler youth. He said he was. I asked him if they really believed in Hitler. He said they were totally in support of him and that he was their hero. In jest I told him he was just a damned Nazi. We both laughed. War seems to be part of the human condition. Jealousy, revenge,greed etc. never ends. It started early. Cain killed Abel out of jealousy. Not going to end folks! Nuff said.
The USA has done more damage to the world than Nazis. How many of the current conflicts in Africa or South America, or the Near East were created by the Nazis and not Americans, English, Soviets, or French? The irony about your point is, you neglected to realise that while you sought to accuse that old man, you belong to something far worse.
I understand and almost entirely agree with Professor Mearsheimer's wide array of analyses of the various modern great power geopolitical dynamics that have transpired throughout the 20th century and now well into the early 21st century I understand his explanation as to why he thinks that Britain should not be counted among the great 20th century powers along with the USA, the USSR, and Germany. I can then speculate and infer, while proceeding from his analysis about Britain, why Imperial Japan, notwithstanding her mighty ascension during the first half of the 20th century, also should not be counted alongside the "big three" either. However, I would very much like to hear Professor Mearsheimer expressly articulate his own analysis as to why he does not consider Japan to have been among the great powers of the 20th century --even at her pinnacle moment, roughly speaking, between1937 and 1943.
It's an interesting question. Here's a potential explanation. Britain's power came from economic dominance (and the fleet) and after WWI it had lost that predominant economic power. Britain for centuries had been able to finance continental powers to fight against the continental hegemon but had lost this critical tool, all it had left was a fleet, colonial forces to deploy and the English Channel. Britain could not have defeated Germany without the US. Japan wasn't even capable of conquering Hawaii, let alone invading the US West Coast. Japan could slap around minor colonial formations in Malaya and Indonesia but could not defeat a very weak China.
Yeah, you've certainly made a number of valid points in assessing Imperial Japan's actual force projection capabilities. One point that you didn't mention is the fact that their army took on the Soviets twice and got trounced both times. They had a very powerful navy, possibly even the most powerful in the world for a very short period of time. They sure raised hell in the Pacific and Asia for a few years that included a kind of "bicycle blitzkrieg' form of land warfare, backed up by the navy and air arm. But their power projection was very unstable, and they couldn't seem to lock down any of their conquests beyond their own immediate regional waters and land masses. Perhaps the reason for that is one and the same as the reason behind their penchant for conquest in the first place -they had to travel far and wide to procure the basic natural resources required to achieve and sustain a great power status. All their force projection efforts were consumed just sustaining their force projection capacity. A vicious cycle. @@charlesiragui2473
@@jameswaugh8339 I think that's right: they had to become really aggressive to have a great power status and that aggresivity overexposed them. Classic case is the invasion of China. What was the purpose other than to feed the national thirst for domination and supremacist ideology? China didn't solve their resource situation. Probably their worst decision was to attack the US in Dec 1941 rather than attacking the USSR from behind. The Army wanted to attack the USSR and the Navy wanted to attack the US (each one driven by the same thirst for "glory"?). The last thing the Army needed was another enemy but this was in fact the moment when the USSR could well have cracked, as the transferred Far Eastern troops ended up saving Moscow from the Germans. Had the Germans actually taken Moscow, the USSR probably would have been cooked, because the entire train system of the country ran out of Moscow. Had the Germans controlled the trains, they would not have had anywhere near the logistics problems that they did. Lucky for us that the Imperial Army lost that 1941 debate in Japanese HQ.
All facts correct; a good analysis too. The word I was groping for to describe Japan's power projection predicament is "they were unable to 'consolidate' their territorial gains. The reasons for this are complex, but one critical element clearly seems to be that when the Japanese were conducting a defensive operation, as we all know too well, they all too often resorted to mass suicidal tactics. No military force can rely on such tactics for very long@@charlesiragui2473
Stalin had troops behind the front line troops, ordered to shot any Russian soldiers who retreated from the battle. So there's that.
The Germans did a fair amount of that, too. The notion of punished a general officer for slapping a soldier......
I thought Germany tried to go through Ukraine to get to Baku and the oil there and that allies stopped that. That might have changed the outcome if they were successful with that, but it was far away. I think that was in the "Why We Fight" TV series, which might have been more propaganda narrative, but I think that was true that they were fuel limited.
Hitler wasn't wildly popular before Jan 1933. Nazi party got 33% of vote in November 1932. Hitler also lost presidential election to Hindenberg.
The Nazis had greater success in July 1932 Reichstag elections (than in the November 1932 Reichstag elections 4 months later), winning 230 seats, became the largest party. By July 1932 Hitler was very popular throughout large sections of Germany, but you're right, he failed to win an overall majority of the popular vote.
@@Fitness4London he got annihilated by Hindenberg. Hitler and the Nazis were never close to a majority.
Threatening to tax the wealthy monarchy like Hindenburg and other wealthy aristocrats was the game changer to swing success of Hitler.
There were many parties in Germany, one third is a considerable chunk of the overall vote.
“Plunging the world into the deepest chaos and destroying ancient cultures, that it played no part in building”
Fascinating discussion between Lex and John Mearsheimer
Pfffft this guest proved himself to be a complete joke when he said A.H. Wasn’t a charismatic leader, and he was the most murderous leader in history. Saying this type of nonsense in 2023 just proves A.H’s point about so-called democracies around the world whose leaders care not for the interests of the citizenry, and the newspapers which shape and control public opinion, owned by a few, who are all serving the dollar, so ultimately money controls these alleged democracies, and the rootless international clique which conducts its business everywhere, having allegiance to no country.
It’s absolutely correct, and as those so called democracies only the white nations are now being intentionally invaded by 3rd world migrants, destroying the culture, destroying those nations, turning them into non-white nations, and demographically destroying the whites which built the entire 1st world which we all enjoy today. Indeed, A.H. Was correct about the internationalists.
Just like those elite exploited and enslaved those third world..to build first world
Sounds like the great reset that you’re talking about. The planned extinction of whites. Only 500million people left alive, 50k Japanese, 50k Chinese because they are easily controlled and immigrants destroying the 1st world. Like bruh, every neighboring country in Europe hates each other, what do people expect when complete strangers are in our vicinity??? Klaus Schwab is a monster and he’s definitely just a puppet. We’re so f’d.
I meant 50 million on both Asian countries I named
@@blairl6304He said he didn't personally find him to be charismatic, not that others didn't find him charismatic.
So many bad historical interpretations. WW1 was certainly wanted by multiple nations, not only Germany. And nowadays we know that Versailles led to Hitler and WW2. What a bad simplification, I would’ve expected better.
wasnt the german kaiser the last one to mobilize his army?
Agreed, before World War I the Germans excepted the Jews with open arms and they flourished. After World War I something changed and the Germans started boycotting the Jews in there businesses, etc. What changed? The attitude changed after the treaty of Versailles with the Balfour Declaration.
I agree. This is a clumsy conversation, often off into the weeds.
Was Hitler more murderous than Stalin?
Will to power is a metaphysical claim. They use it as if it were a motivation whereas Nietzsche used it as the motivation for the essence of life.
The Will to Power insight is interesting, Hitler entered the public sphere with the intention of becoming Germanys leader; I dont think Bonaparte did. Bonaparte was ambitious in the sense that he wanted as much power and status as he could possibly get but, I don't think he conspired for leadership until he saw the opportunity.
Hitler did not enter politics intending to lead Germany. He said he considered himself a messenger paving the way for a future leader.
They came within a year of staving Britain into surrender.
would a could a should A. Germany still took a fat L
The small hats cry out in pain as they strike you
Germany didn't start WW1,
This particular webcast was very good!
"He was the best guy around"
"What murders?"
Churchill starved million and millions of Indians in India... What about him?
@2:02 Not over Stalin or Mao...
Yea how stupid a comment was that? Not even close. Hitler probably isn't top ten genocidal. Maybe it's because he was killing Jews and this professor is Jewish?
Right? How do so many people forget that? Combine Hitler and Stalin, Mao still has more deaths.
Bro I came to comment that same thing too…
This guy is scary uneducated and needs to spend a little more time in his history courses
Stalin / Mao / khan
Come off the head as just as equal
To say they are worse is simple irrelevant
But hitler is not 1 lol
he DIDNT start ww2, france and uk did, he tols the pols to give danzig back and they refused, invading them to regain previously held german territory is not 'starting ww2-.
That's not quite accurate. Of course ZOG-USA and Britain started WW2, but Germany and Russia had hatched a plan to invade Poland and remove it from the map which they did in September 1939. Germany conquered nearly half of Poland, and Russia a bit more than half. It wasn't just about taking back formerly German land.
@@johnwilliamson9657 yeah sure, but why should uk and france go to war coz of some treaty with poland? they couldve just reneged and not gone to war
@@johnwilliamson9657 The Molotov-Ribbentrop agreement (non-aggression pact) was not a partition of Poland unlike Britain’s Munich agreement.
The agreement stipulated Russia would remain neutral on Poland (the Poles wanted this and it was implied by Britain at the time).
More than this, the agreement was anti-German. In the case of war, it limited Germany’s advance in eastern Poland and excluded them from the Baltics.
On 23 Aug, when the pact was signed, war had not yet broken out and it was far from inevitable. In fact, no one wanted war. Not Britain, not France, not Germany, or Russia or Italy or even Poland.
Unlike Munich, it did not dictate the carving up Poland in any way. This is important.
Its purpose was to isolate Poland diplomatically. Stalin and Hitler both assumed Britain-France would not go to war without Soviet alliance. Poland therefore would be compelled to negotiate over Danzig. If they remained defiant, they’d be forced to take Soviet aid. Everyone expected Poland to be reasonable.
You can see how the war could have been averted, not triggered, by the pact.
Historians know who butters their bread.
Marxists destroyed Russia in 1917. And then they used it to destroy Europe with multiculturalism. After World War II, the USSR introduced Marxist propaganda into American schools and degenerated American unity. Today the Kremlin is ruled by the multiculturalist Putin, who is destroying Eastern Europeans with tanks. And in the West, Europeans are being destroyed by the NETFLIX AGENDA (MARXISM)!
these "experts" get paid by someone at the end of the day and their story has to be approved from someone before being published.... wonder who
I highly recommend the serie "soviet storm" on youtube to people interested in the eastern front story of ww2
Hindenburg's appointment of Hitler was not absolutely forced or inevitable.
Yes it was. Hitler used the tactic of just wandering out of parament so the goverment was a lame duck. But what Hindenburg and others could not see comming was the burning of the Richtag Hitler used the delcare emegeny rule. And THAT and only THAT made him a dictatory. The rules of germany was that the declaration of emergency was to be renewned in 1942. But that was easy too for Hitler since Germany was in a war..
@@henrikhilskov Yes the electoral/parliamentary maneuvering of the Nazis is the least discussed aspect of their rise to power.
fascinating amount of knowledge here... cant believe we're getting this for free.
Stop trying to pay for free sh*t! Give me your money since your so keen to give it away !
@No_jews_allowed 😂 you're absolutely right
But I have a question. A genuine one... Why does jew thing doesn't end man?! Forgive my ignorance, but Im ok to read your arguments, your perspective.
I've seen the profile pic, but how do I know that's legit info? Also, what else can you tell me, besides that covid agenda thing?
Fantastic interview
First 40 seconds professor Merasheimer shows he has no idea of what he's talking about. Not even acquainted with one of the most important historians in America: Harry Elmer Barnes. What a shame today's academy