excellent u returned back to original native country thats very pleasurious enjoyable moment but u will always remember about ur stay in India India love Israel & her peoples
As an Indian it makes me extremely proud to see this video. We were probably the only country that never persecuted Jews. Instead we assimilated them as a diverse part of our diverse country for centuries. Till it was time to bid adios to us.. We will miss them.. From and Indian Well Wisher
I think you haven't read enough into their struggle in India where they resided, for 100s of years they were always referred to as outsiders and enemies. They were often in wars and due to it, had to migrate from place to place. So, yes they were prosecuted by Indians. fyi.
@@Olaberg13 beg to differ. In fact you need to do some reading up. Judaism in India dates back to ancient times and is among the first foreign religion to come to India. Dates back to the time of the Ancient Kingdom of Juda. They continued to come in several waves. Some of the lost tribes found their way here too. Because this was a land that accepted diversity and assimilated outsiders. There may have been a stray incident of resentment through the centuries. But it’s a blatant lie that they had to fight wars for their existence in India. Would like you to quote a single such incident from recorded history. India is an exception. And every Jewish leader has maintained that. Even today, young Israelis flock to Goa when they finish their compulsory military service. Because India is one of the safest places for them to unwind. Read up please. Maybe you should visit India too and find out the truth.
And all the credit goes to Mother India for letting the lost tribe of Israel preserve their culture and identity for 2,500 years. Where else on this planet are you allowed to do that.Israel need to appreciate and thankk India for taking care of their, people and the returning to Israel should not forget where they came from too...INDIA
van miller This is only true for some Muslims in India. A big majority of Muslims in India trace their ethnicity back to Turks, Persians and Mongols. There are also many Yemeni Muslims in Hyderabad for example who moved there when Hyderabad was an Independent State run by the Nizam.
Jeetu_Ghorpade! No, they aren't originally from Saudi Arabia. They're people that are descended from converts to Islam. Some or many of those converts were probably forced to convert.
I know many Indian Jews in Israel, and i have few Indian Jewish friends... they really cool people =) They welcomed here and i wish for them all the luck in the world.
I really hope that these Indian Jews become the finest ambassadors of India to Israel. Hope they retain some of those traits, food habits etc that mark them as distinctly Indian and share it with their new Israeli brethren. And some day I am sure Indians will travel to Israel knowing that a little India exists there as well..
I'm not denying that the motive can be part economic-but some of them come were professionals in Manipur/Mizoram. I am Jewish, and have met these people in Israel.I was impressed with their sincerity, but I thought some were a bit fanatic. Many of the religious Zionists in Israel repeat the story that BnaiMenashe come from ancient Israelites, and I'm very dubious about that,but at the same time I appreciate them as sincere devout people who want to be Jews and contribute to Israeli society.
@TamilArasan22 Your comment makes me proud as an Indian. You are right, we have reason to be proud of our tolerant, liberal culture and history. JAI HIND
@lundepaki Yeah i agreed with you India was allways a very poupolar palce for Israelis. And there is like 75000 Jews in Israel that came from India. and why Indians not coming to visit Israel? you very welcomed and we will very glad if you will come.
@ProphetLuong India is a vast diverse country where Aryan, Dravidian and Mongoloid races have intermingled for centuries. The Bnei Menashe settled for centuries in Mizoram in the extreme north-eastern part of the country bordering Burma. The Mizos are predominantly Mongoloid and hence their Burmese/ Thai looks. Trust me they are as Indian as the darker skinned ones..:)
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I wish them luck even though I agree there claims of descending from a Jewish tribe seem far fetched. They seem sincere in their belief and that is all that matters. I hope they will retain some of their heritage and don't lose themselves completely.
abu zinnar, i tot the Minhag of Israel is Sefaradi? Btw, the majority of Israelis nowadays are Mizrachim, albeit the Ashkenazic control of the country.
I admire the Bnei Menashe as individuals, and accept them as fellow Jews (just as a Jew is required to accept and love all righteous converts).As a group, I also respect them, & think in the end they will strengthen Israel and the Jewish people with their faith and hard work. I hope they don't face racism in Israel. On the other hand-all that said--I am not at all convinced by their claims to truly be descended from the tribe of Menashe. It seems very farfetched. But in the end it won't matter.
you are an idiot, racist, evil to say those things, they are from a tribe of Israel, menashe and have been following the Judaic way of life for thousands of years and deserve to come home to the holyland Israel, their true home.
@kdblr not only Jews we always sheltered the religious persecuted people from all around the world, example : Jews from Israel, Zoroastrianism form Iran, Syrian Christians got settled in Kerala and assimilated, Tibet Budist who got settled all over India and living happily and I am proud to belong to a country which has thought the world universal brother hood and vasudev kutumbakam (world is one family), Jai HInd...
@ProphetLuong As explained to you we are a land of divergent views. I am quoting the empirically established and accepted point of view. As regards the Mongoloid invasions of India, the Mongol invasion is pre-dated by the Ahom invasion of Assam in 1228. The Ahoms came from Northern Thailand. Interestingly Lachit Barphukan, the Ahom Commander stopped the Mughal's (Mongols) on their march eastwards at the Battle of Saraighat in 1668 just outside modern day Guwahati
If I was one of them then I would not have left India. 27 century ago their 1st ancestors landed here. But can't you see for more than 2000 years you have been living in this land. The 1st ancestors were from Israel but all the rest of generations were born here. also ethnicity wise they are from here. Scientist says all the modern human came from Africa. Around 1.8 Million years ago started to migrate from the continent of Africa, then I guess we all should go back to the place our 1st homo sapien ancestors came from. I'm just presenting my opinion. Jai Hind
I know where you are coming from. The fact of the matter is that #1, they are till today are treated as outsiders in India by the neighboring villages and people. #2, All the Jews have united and created the State of Israel and called upon all Jews to return to the Holy Land to form a united Zionist country, which they did. Now, they need more people to build and defend the country and their identity. Your African theory is not believed by many. That theory just came to live due to it #1 them finding the oldest human skeleton/fossil in Africa, and some other reasons that is convincing to many. Now, they have found older human remains in China, we can't keep on changing our origin, every time an older skeleton is found. However, we can connect ourselves with our ancestors within each group. For example most north indians, Iranians (those claim to speak Farsi), Pakistanis and Bangladesh people are from the same root, but you people don't have a sense of unity, otherwise, you would unite as well. Hope this helps you with the cause and reason.
@kdblr The finest point that one can make which illustrates how Indian Muslims are a liberal breed is the fact that in 1971 Bengali Muslims of erstwhile East Pakistan rebelled and broke away from Islamic Pakistan to create Secular Bangladesh. And the disagreement was over the subordination of bengali (language and culture with a Hindu origin) by Urdu (Muslim lingua franca). Bangladesh's national anthem is written by Tagore, a Hindu Bengali poet who is also the author of India's National Anthem
@thelordofassholes It's not a well known fact that the people of north east India have physical features similar to the people of Southeast Asia. Much is alike in many cultural aspects as well. The north east has been integrated into Hinduism and typical "Indian" culture only in the last couple centuries or so. The area was officially annexed as states into India in the mid 20th century after India itself achieved independence from Great Britain.
@thelordofassholes Before that, for thousands of years, the north east people lived much like the Burmese, Thai, Cambodians, etc in tribal societies. Hence, there are currently Mongoloids in India. Sadly, although they are educated as Indians, there is discrimination present against them for their Asiatic features and different culture. But truly, India is a very diverse country with many subcultures, languages, traditions, etc... I hope that helped somewhat.
Jeremiah 50:33 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.
@kdblr All minority religions flourish in India. Not just Judaism but Jainism, Zoroastrianism (Parsis), Syriac Christians, Tibetan Buddhism (Dalai Lama), Shiah Islam (Pakistan didn't accept them they wanted a pure Sunni country although the Shiahs in Pakistan stayed there). India even protect the later Sikh sects like Namdhari and Nihangis against the mainstream. In fact the only time India has attack was as self-defence when the minority religion were themselves powerful and aggressive.
They look like any other Mongolian tribes. If you would expline their juish customes and traditions, it will be easy for us to understand the aim of this migration.
They are wonderful people-and once they convert to Judaism,they are 100% Jews & a great addition to Israel,BUT I am very skeptical about their ancient links to Jews, or being a descendant of the last tribes. The evidence of their ancient connection is very slight & scanty,despite what the people here are saying. At the same time,once they convert to Judaism, learn Hebrew,adopt Jewish ways,they are 100% Jews.
Because like any other religion Judaism has different casts. They're getting converted to the cast accepted and practiced heavily by the state. Eventho it might be their cast which most likely is the closest to the original Judaism religion from back in the days. Basically they're converting to the beliefs of the European Jews, in brief.
@@juliatube2007 I'm sure they're more Jewish than most Jewish. I think first the Arab Jews, then these Jews, and then the Turkic Jews, then Persian Jews and finally European Jews in this order are closer to the original Jews. Lookwise, these guys are probably closest to how the original Jews looked like. Study history of the surrounding area and compare it with Holy book stories, you will find some new discoveries.
:) I think we are talking the same language. There is no reason for me to debate what you are saying. Please read my comment again, it reads Indians and not Hindus. Indian Muslims are liberal and as Indian as any other Indian, the exceptions will always be there just like there are fundamentalist Hindus (a minuscule minority if I may hasten to add)
My point is that if Shavei Israel were headed by Sephardi Rabbis, then the Menashe would be learning Sephardi customs instead of Ashkenaz. That also would be fine. Either way is good. Also consider that there is no such thing as a monolithic Sephardi minhag. There is Marocco, Iraqi, Kurdi, Teimani, Farsi, Bukhari, Aram Sova, etc. etc. Compare their siddurim and you will see they are all different. Which is best? Take your pick.
I've seen firsthand how Ashkenazi Rabbis push Ashkenazi customs on Ethiopians, Georgians, etc. The whole "black hat" thing has nothing to do with Judaism. Using braided challas are German, not Jewish. The manginot used in the services are German as well.
Not exactly. The Mizrachim were all religious before they came to Israel and the Israeli Establishment in those days pressured them to become secular. All the original Yemenites were Orthodox as well as the Kurdim. The Ashkenazi Rabbis had very little power in those days to influence the new immigrants.
This is exactly the original Israelites should have looked like. I got 2 reasons! 1. Middle eastern countries due to its climate can't have any indigenous other than dark skins. 2. Israelites looked the same as the Pharoahs (read story of Moses). The Pharoah's statue clearly look Asian. These ppl in the middle of India were practicing Jewdism till they've been discovered. How could this be a coincidence?
@@guyp9596 If you look at the statues of the Pharaohs and that of the architect of the Pyramids, you will see that they all have almond eyes, with Asiatic features. Albeit there are still tribes in Africa who have Asiatic looks, who could be the remainder of those Asian migrants from 1000s of years. There is actually some who believe there were groups of Asians who migrated from the North into the Anatolia and then they split into 2 groups, 1 remained in Anatolia, and another migrated south into the Africa. This migration happened about 4000-6000 years ago.
@@Olaberg13 Umm, i’ve been thinking and just came up with a theory. What if there were Asiatic looking peoples in Egypt and Anatolia thousands years ago like you said. The tribe of Manasseh have Egyptian roots, since Joseph married an Egyptian. So that would make sense to why Bnei Mensashe looks Asiatic. But I don’t think other Israelites tribes look asiatic.
@ProphetLuong India is such a vibrant democracy that we have learnt to live with different points of views and argue about everything :) However, all historical evidence and Indian text books clearly accept that India has had three dominant races Aryan's, Dravidians and Mongoloids. But the intermingling and cross cultural marriages for centuries has made the phenotypical evidence fairly faint. There are no longer pure Aryans / Dravidians or Mongoloids in India any more..
Why is that something negative? If they had been mekarev'ed by Sephardim, then they would have Sephardi customs. It makes no difference. At least it's Jewish.
First off, they don't look Thai at all. Secondly, as you could dig abit more and learn further about these people, you will find out that they have migrated after the Assyrians put all the Jews into exile, so this tribe, find their ways in India. Nevertheless, there are many Tibetans who also live in India as well.
@Yuval012 Guess there is a very simple reason why Indian's do not go to Israel. For one Israel is doing nothing in India about promoting tourism. People do not really know what to look forward to when they visit Israel. Flying to Tel Aviv is not cheap.
@LePetitGrosse May i interject to put one record straight. India's identity lies in it's multi-cultural, multi-ethnic nature. To be an Indian is to believe in heterogeneity. By that definition we would never want India to become a Hindu nation. Our version of utopia would have been achieved if we find synthesis in Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jains, Jews and Zoroastrians respecting each others differences and evolving a unique culture based on the similarities - we are almost there :)
I'm almost 100% sure that India like any other country around it or around the world, had their own share of discrimination against the minorities. You have every right to take pride in your identity and celebrate whatever you desire. But make no mistake, India today and in the past, had as much share of discrimination and fights with minorities as much as other countries did.
@@Olaberg13 your understanding of Indian history and its multi cultural ethos is flawed. Have we had conflicts and wars? Certainly. But are we believers in homogeneity? No way. Therein lies the uniqueness of this land and its people. Did you know, we don’t even have a National Language or a State Religion? Because diversity is so close to our heart.
I agree that the most important thing is returning to Judaism. But when the Jews of Yemen and Kurdistan arrived in Israel (1948-1950) their culture was not respected. They were forced to learn to eat, drink, sing, dance, and dress in the Ashkenazi way. The Rabbis who "taught" them disregarded Yemenite customs, even though it predated "Orthodox" Judaism by 1000 years.
I don't buy the claims that they are descended from the Tribe of Menashe as Michael Freund says, but according to the Jewish tradition, once someone sincerely converts to Judaism, one is a Jew like every other Jew. We Jews don't traditionally proselytise, and some of the motive to convert these folk is undoubtedly political (to increase Jewish pop. in Israel). However, those who convert and move to Israel will intermingle/intermarry with other Israeli Jews, and they're sincere.
@warpedcomedy The Adios is only because they will no longer be Indian citizens. Ofcourse India and Israel are destined to be allies for centuries to come. And probably formal military allies in not so distant future. Nowhere else in the world does Israel enjoy the adulation and admiration like it does in India. Ofcourse Israeli tourists will be a major contributor to our tourism. Where else can they openly declare they are Jewish and not feel threatened the least.
Not a single one of these fakes is Jewish. India does have real Jews, Bnei Israel and Baghdadi, who made aliyah to Israel after its creation in 1948, but these Kukis or so-called Bnei Maneshe were Christian up until about 25 years ago. DNA tests have proven they are of Tibetan / Burmese descent and do NOT have a trace of Middle-eastern / Jewish heritage.
The lost tribe is still outside there. So, don't easily get fooled by those jew scholars. And those Indians and Chinese are dying for a better life. So, they will be whatever they need to be in order to leave the country.
I am from Mizoram and I do not see Myself having any connection with the Israel.. I strongly agree we are mixed race of Chinese and indian..I remember feeling embarrassed when people asked me If i am Israeli as I dont ..sure they said they found DNA trace in us ..I look more Middle east then people in the vId but I am indian Thru n thru..and christian..But However I may not like this Idea I cannot take away freedom of expression and religion
@kdblr Here is why: Genesis16:11-12 11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her: “ Behold, you are with child, And you shall bear a son. You shall call his name Ishmael, Because the LORD has heard your affliction. 12 He shall be a wild man; His hand shall be against every man, And every man’s hand against him. And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
No those ppl, and including you are all Romans/Indo Europeans. Go read abit of history and you'll know that Middle eastern indigenous were all dark skinned ppl, & they looked the same as Egyptian Indigenous aka Pharoahs. Now go find a Pharoah statue, & see who they resemble most? Those thai looking ppl or you? I beg to differ pal, they resemble them 100 times more than you. Therefore they're the lost tribe, & not today's Palestians or you to begin with! U stole it, now Jews took it back!
I dont think that these people belong to Israel ... yes there are many indian jews, but these..? I dont know. Seems to me that israel just needed more Jews in the country.
Go in peace Jewish brothers and sisters. With love...Christian from India.
excellent u returned back to original native country thats very pleasurious enjoyable moment but u will always remember about ur stay in India India love Israel & her peoples
I m crying.....shalomm...God bless you all ..🙏🙏❤️
As an Indian it makes me extremely proud to see this video. We were probably the only country that never persecuted Jews. Instead we assimilated them as a diverse part of our diverse country for centuries. Till it was time to bid adios to us..
We will miss them..
From and Indian Well Wisher
I think you haven't read enough into their struggle in India where they resided, for 100s of years they were always referred to as outsiders and enemies. They were often in wars and due to it, had to migrate from place to place. So, yes they were prosecuted by Indians. fyi.
@@Olaberg13 beg to differ. In fact you need to do some reading up.
Judaism in India dates back to ancient times and is among the first foreign religion to come to India. Dates back to the time of the Ancient Kingdom of Juda.
They continued to come in several waves. Some of the lost tribes found their way here too. Because this was a land that accepted diversity and assimilated outsiders.
There may have been a stray incident of resentment through the centuries. But it’s a blatant lie that they had to fight wars for their existence in India. Would like you to quote a single such incident from recorded history.
India is an exception. And every Jewish leader has maintained that.
Even today, young Israelis flock to Goa when they finish their compulsory military service. Because India is one of the safest places for them to unwind.
Read up please. Maybe you should visit India too and find out the truth.
Whenever I hear the stories of the people of God, brings tears to my eyes.
Wowww I'm in tears GOD BLESS THE ISRAELITES ...THE PROPHECY IS FULFILLED...
Bless them all. B'Hashem.
And all the credit goes to Mother India for letting the lost tribe of Israel preserve their culture and identity for 2,500 years.
Where else on this planet are you allowed to do that.Israel need to appreciate and thankk India for taking care of their, people and the returning to Israel should not forget where they came from too...INDIA
Welcome home brothers and sisters.Shalom!
bless all the hebrews all over the earth from a Igbo
Why don't Muslims leave for Saudi Arabia or Iraq from India? I''d call them 'lost tribes of Arabia'.
in india muslims are converted... where as in Mizoram they were not but keeping generation to generation.
van miller This is only true for some Muslims in India. A big majority of Muslims in India trace their ethnicity back to Turks, Persians and Mongols. There are also many Yemeni Muslims in Hyderabad for example who moved there when Hyderabad was an Independent State run by the Nizam.
Jeetu_Ghorpade!
No, they aren't originally from Saudi Arabia. They're people that are descended from converts to Islam. Some or many of those converts were probably forced to convert.
United we are stronger, they are most welcomed.
I know many Indian Jews in Israel,
and i have few Indian Jewish friends...
they really cool people =)
They welcomed here and i wish for them all the luck in the world.
This is so hilarious. i don't know how you guys do it.
Shalom, shalom, shalom,
Bar eretz Ysroel
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Prise The Lord,,Hallelujah.
I really hope that these Indian Jews become the finest ambassadors of India to Israel. Hope they retain some of those traits, food habits etc that mark them as distinctly Indian and share it with their new Israeli brethren. And some day I am sure Indians will travel to Israel knowing that a little India exists there as well..
awesome, just awesome
wellcom home dear brothers and sisters!!!
I'm not denying that the motive can be part economic-but some of them come were professionals in Manipur/Mizoram. I am Jewish, and have met these people in Israel.I was impressed with their sincerity, but I thought some were a bit fanatic. Many of the religious Zionists in Israel repeat the story that BnaiMenashe come from ancient Israelites, and I'm very dubious about that,but at the same time I appreciate them as sincere devout people who want to be Jews and contribute to Israeli society.
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@TamilArasan22 Your comment makes me proud as an Indian. You are right, we have reason to be proud of our tolerant, liberal culture and history.
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@lundepaki
Yeah i agreed with you
India was allways a very poupolar palce for Israelis.
And there is like 75000 Jews in Israel that came from India.
and why Indians not coming to visit Israel?
you very welcomed and we will very glad if you will come.
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@ProphetLuong India is a vast diverse country where Aryan, Dravidian and Mongoloid races have intermingled for centuries. The Bnei Menashe settled for centuries in Mizoram in the extreme north-eastern part of the country bordering Burma. The Mizos are predominantly Mongoloid and hence their Burmese/ Thai looks. Trust me they are as Indian as the darker skinned ones..:)
From mizoram
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This is great, but I wonder if Ashkenazi customs are a little too dominant in the reintroduction process.
Are they smart too?
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I wish them luck even though I agree there claims of descending from a Jewish tribe seem far fetched. They seem sincere in their belief and that is all that matters. I hope they will retain some of their heritage and don't lose themselves completely.
People of God never cease to exist!!
Jagath Jayasena Martin Luther was a anti Semite
You might wanna check people of east Indonesia
There are 29 million
abu zinnar, i tot the Minhag of Israel is Sefaradi? Btw, the majority of Israelis nowadays are Mizrachim, albeit the Ashkenazic control of the country.
I admire the Bnei Menashe as individuals, and accept them as fellow Jews (just as a Jew is required to accept and love all righteous converts).As a group, I also respect them, & think in the end they will strengthen Israel and the Jewish people with their faith and hard work. I hope they don't face racism in Israel. On the other hand-all that said--I am not at all convinced by their claims to truly be descended from the tribe of Menashe. It seems very farfetched. But in the end it won't matter.
The next lost tribe of israel will come from mars then the next will follow from neptune and pluto.
genius ass✌
you are an idiot, racist, evil to say those things, they are from a tribe of Israel, menashe and have been following the Judaic way of life for thousands of years and deserve to come home to the holyland Israel, their true home.
@kdblr not only Jews we always sheltered the religious persecuted people from all around the world, example : Jews from Israel, Zoroastrianism form Iran, Syrian Christians got settled in Kerala and assimilated, Tibet Budist who got settled all over India and living happily and I am proud to belong to a country which has thought the world universal brother hood and vasudev kutumbakam (world is one family), Jai HInd...
@ProphetLuong As explained to you we are a land of divergent views. I am quoting the empirically established and accepted point of view.
As regards the Mongoloid invasions of India, the Mongol invasion is pre-dated by the Ahom invasion of Assam in 1228. The Ahoms came from Northern Thailand. Interestingly Lachit Barphukan, the Ahom Commander stopped the Mughal's (Mongols) on their march eastwards at the Battle of Saraighat in 1668 just outside modern day Guwahati
If I was one of them then I would not have left India. 27 century ago their 1st ancestors landed here. But can't you see for more than 2000 years you have been living in this land. The 1st ancestors were from Israel but all the rest of generations were born here. also ethnicity wise they are from here. Scientist says all the modern human came from Africa. Around 1.8 Million years ago started to migrate from the continent of Africa, then I guess we all should go back to the place our 1st homo sapien ancestors came from.
I'm just presenting my opinion. Jai Hind
I know where you are coming from. The fact of the matter is that #1, they are till today are treated as outsiders in India by the neighboring villages and people. #2, All the Jews have united and created the State of Israel and called upon all Jews to return to the Holy Land to form a united Zionist country, which they did. Now, they need more people to build and defend the country and their identity.
Your African theory is not believed by many. That theory just came to live due to it #1 them finding the oldest human skeleton/fossil in Africa, and some other reasons that is convincing to many. Now, they have found older human remains in China, we can't keep on changing our origin, every time an older skeleton is found. However, we can connect ourselves with our ancestors within each group. For example most north indians, Iranians (those claim to speak Farsi), Pakistanis and Bangladesh people are from the same root, but you people don't have a sense of unity, otherwise, you would unite as well. Hope this helps you with the cause and reason.
they are in Amewhweegah making Rab mushik
@kdblr The finest point that one can make which illustrates how Indian Muslims are a liberal breed is the fact that in 1971 Bengali Muslims of erstwhile East Pakistan rebelled and broke away from Islamic Pakistan to create Secular Bangladesh. And the disagreement was over the subordination of bengali (language and culture with a Hindu origin) by Urdu (Muslim lingua franca). Bangladesh's national anthem is written by Tagore, a Hindu Bengali poet who is also the author of India's National Anthem
@BamenYaros Yes, am aware. They are welcome. Soon after their compulsory military service is over they make a beeline for India..:)
Wow! I need to get my DNA checked!
@thelordofassholes It's not a well known fact that the people of north east India have physical features similar to the people of Southeast Asia. Much is alike in many cultural aspects as well. The north east has been integrated into Hinduism and typical "Indian" culture only in the last couple centuries or so. The area was officially annexed as states into India in the mid 20th century after India itself achieved independence from Great Britain.
@thelordofassholes Before that, for thousands of years, the north east people lived much like the Burmese, Thai, Cambodians, etc in tribal societies. Hence, there are currently Mongoloids in India. Sadly, although they are educated as Indians, there is discrimination present against them for their Asiatic features and different culture. But truly, India is a very diverse country with many subcultures, languages, traditions, etc... I hope that helped somewhat.
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Jeremiah 50:33
Thus saith the LORD of hosts; The children of Israel and the children of Judah were oppressed together: and all that took them captives held them fast; they refused to let them go.
@kdblr All minority religions flourish in India. Not just Judaism but Jainism, Zoroastrianism (Parsis), Syriac Christians, Tibetan Buddhism (Dalai Lama), Shiah Islam (Pakistan didn't accept them they wanted a pure Sunni country although the Shiahs in Pakistan stayed there). India even protect the later Sikh sects like Namdhari and Nihangis against the mainstream.
In fact the only time India has attack was as self-defence when the minority religion were themselves powerful and aggressive.
@thelordofassholes check out North eastern india.I am from there.
It's usually Jews that visit Israel, and increasingly, American Christians. Outside of that, most non-Jews probably don't feel the urge to go.
They look like any other Mongolian tribes. If you would expline their juish customes and traditions, it will be easy for us to understand the aim of this migration.
VIva Israel
They are wonderful people-and once they convert to Judaism,they are 100% Jews & a great addition to Israel,BUT I am very skeptical about their ancient links to Jews, or being a descendant of the last tribes. The evidence of their ancient connection is very slight & scanty,despite what the people here are saying. At the same time,once they convert to Judaism, learn Hebrew,adopt Jewish ways,they are 100% Jews.
if they are real lost tribe of Israel why they need to convert Judaism ?
fanaipakhup because they need to learn Judaism they have long forgotten their roots
Because there are not Jewish and their claim of Jewish descent is a total and complete BS.
Because like any other religion Judaism has different casts. They're getting converted to the cast accepted and practiced heavily by the state. Eventho it might be their cast which most likely is the closest to the original Judaism religion from back in the days. Basically they're converting to the beliefs of the European Jews, in brief.
@@juliatube2007 I'm sure they're more Jewish than most Jewish. I think first the Arab Jews, then these Jews, and then the Turkic Jews, then Persian Jews and finally European Jews in this order are closer to the original Jews. Lookwise, these guys are probably closest to how the original Jews looked like. Study history of the surrounding area and compare it with Holy book stories, you will find some new discoveries.
:) I think we are talking the same language. There is no reason for me to debate what you are saying. Please read my comment again, it reads Indians and not Hindus. Indian Muslims are liberal and as Indian as any other Indian, the exceptions will always be there just like there are fundamentalist Hindus (a minuscule minority if I may hasten to add)
My point is that if Shavei Israel were headed by Sephardi Rabbis, then the Menashe would be learning Sephardi customs instead of Ashkenaz. That also would be fine. Either way is good.
Also consider that there is no such thing as a monolithic Sephardi minhag. There is Marocco, Iraqi, Kurdi, Teimani, Farsi, Bukhari, Aram Sova, etc. etc. Compare their siddurim and you will see they are all different. Which is best? Take your pick.
Yes I can see that LOL!
I've seen firsthand how Ashkenazi Rabbis push Ashkenazi customs on Ethiopians, Georgians, etc.
The whole "black hat" thing has nothing to do with Judaism. Using braided challas are German, not Jewish. The manginot used in the services are German as well.
Not exactly. The Mizrachim were all religious before they came to Israel and the Israeli Establishment in those days pressured them to become secular. All the original Yemenites were Orthodox as well as the Kurdim. The Ashkenazi Rabbis had very little power in those days to influence the new immigrants.
@kdblr You will never bid adios. Israel is your political and military ally. You will get a lot of tourism too.
There are of course a lot of Mexican Jews-but these people aren't from Mexico-they are from India!
This is exactly the original Israelites should have looked like. I got 2 reasons!
1. Middle eastern countries due to its climate can't have any indigenous other than dark skins.
2. Israelites looked the same as the Pharoahs (read story of Moses). The Pharoah's statue clearly look Asian. These ppl in the middle of India were practicing Jewdism till they've been discovered. How could this be a coincidence?
Was there any proof of Asiatic peoples in Egypt and the Middle East?
@@guyp9596 If you look at the statues of the Pharaohs and that of the architect of the Pyramids, you will see that they all have almond eyes, with Asiatic features. Albeit there are still tribes in Africa who have Asiatic looks, who could be the remainder of those Asian migrants from 1000s of years. There is actually some who believe there were groups of Asians who migrated from the North into the Anatolia and then they split into 2 groups, 1 remained in Anatolia, and another migrated south into the Africa. This migration happened about 4000-6000 years ago.
@@Olaberg13 Umm, i’ve been thinking and just came up with a theory. What if there were Asiatic looking peoples in Egypt and Anatolia thousands years ago like you said. The tribe of Manasseh have Egyptian roots, since Joseph married an Egyptian. So that would make sense to why Bnei Mensashe looks Asiatic. But I don’t think other Israelites tribes look asiatic.
@ProphetLuong India is such a vibrant democracy that we have learnt to live with different points of views and argue about everything :)
However, all historical evidence and Indian text books clearly accept that India has had three dominant races Aryan's, Dravidians and Mongoloids. But the intermingling and cross cultural marriages for centuries has made the phenotypical evidence fairly faint. There are no longer pure Aryans / Dravidians or Mongoloids in India any more..
So being jew is just being related to the religion judaism. Cool!
looks like jewish inter moxed with local north east Indian tribes
Actually, if you consider yourself Christian, you most definitely DO have a connection to Israel :)
So true
Why is that something negative? If they had been mekarev'ed by Sephardim, then they would have Sephardi customs. It makes no difference. At least it's Jewish.
They rather look Thai but Indian. How come?
First off, they don't look Thai at all. Secondly, as you could dig abit more and learn further about these people, you will find out that they have migrated after the Assyrians put all the Jews into exile, so this tribe, find their ways in India. Nevertheless, there are many Tibetans who also live in India as well.
@Yuval012 Guess there is a very simple reason why Indian's do not go to Israel. For one Israel is doing nothing in India about promoting tourism. People do not really know what to look forward to when they visit Israel. Flying to Tel Aviv is not cheap.
@LePetitGrosse May i interject to put one record straight. India's identity lies in it's multi-cultural, multi-ethnic nature. To be an Indian is to believe in heterogeneity. By that definition we would never want India to become a Hindu nation. Our version of utopia would have been achieved if we find synthesis in Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Christians, Jains, Jews and Zoroastrians respecting each others differences and evolving a unique culture based on the similarities - we are almost there :)
I'm almost 100% sure that India like any other country around it or around the world, had their own share of discrimination against the minorities. You have every right to take pride in your identity and celebrate whatever you desire. But make no mistake, India today and in the past, had as much share of discrimination and fights with minorities as much as other countries did.
@@Olaberg13 your understanding of Indian history and its multi cultural ethos is flawed. Have we had conflicts and wars? Certainly. But are we believers in homogeneity? No way. Therein lies the uniqueness of this land and its people.
Did you know, we don’t even have a National Language or a State Religion? Because diversity is so close to our heart.
I agree that the most important thing is returning to Judaism.
But when the Jews of Yemen and Kurdistan arrived in Israel (1948-1950) their culture was not respected. They were forced to learn to eat, drink, sing, dance, and dress in the Ashkenazi way. The Rabbis who "taught" them disregarded Yemenite customs, even though it predated "Orthodox" Judaism by 1000 years.
I don't buy the claims that they are descended from the Tribe of Menashe as Michael Freund says, but according to the Jewish tradition, once someone sincerely converts to Judaism, one is a Jew like every other Jew. We Jews don't traditionally proselytise, and some of the motive to convert these folk is undoubtedly political (to increase Jewish pop. in Israel). However, those who convert and move to Israel will intermingle/intermarry with other Israeli Jews, and they're sincere.
@warpedcomedy The Adios is only because they will no longer be Indian citizens. Ofcourse India and Israel are destined to be allies for centuries to come. And probably formal military allies in not so distant future. Nowhere else in the world does Israel enjoy the adulation and admiration like it does in India. Ofcourse Israeli tourists will be a major contributor to our tourism. Where else can they openly declare they are Jewish and not feel threatened the least.
Not a single one of these fakes is Jewish. India does have real Jews, Bnei Israel and Baghdadi, who made aliyah to Israel after its creation in 1948, but these Kukis or so-called Bnei Maneshe were Christian up until about 25 years ago. DNA tests have proven they are of Tibetan / Burmese descent and do NOT have a trace of Middle-eastern / Jewish heritage.
Come on Judaism is not about the DNA!!! And I am not saying it. It is the law!! The soul matters not the DNA. It IS SIMPLE JEWISH LAW!!
The lost tribe is still outside there. So, don't easily get fooled by those jew scholars.
And those Indians and Chinese are dying for a better life. So, they will be whatever they need to be in order to leave the country.
You clearly don’t know the Torah
What a scam by Shavei Yisroel!
Has the Isreal's jewish forced the tribe to take DNA tests too?
I am from Mizoram and I do not see Myself having any connection with the Israel.. I strongly agree we are mixed race of Chinese and indian..I remember feeling embarrassed when people asked me If i am Israeli as I dont ..sure they said they found DNA trace in us ..I look more Middle east then people in the vId but I am indian Thru n thru..and christian..But However I may not like this Idea I cannot take away freedom of expression and religion
That's because you are MIZO not Bnei Menashe
@kdblr Here is why:
Genesis16:11-12
11 And the Angel of the LORD said to her:
“ Behold, you are with child,
And you shall bear a son.
You shall call his name Ishmael,
Because the LORD has heard your affliction.
12 He shall be a wild man;
His hand shall be against every man,
And every man’s hand against him.
And he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.”
They look just like any Asian of Tibetan-Burmese ancestry.
No those ppl, and including you are all Romans/Indo Europeans. Go read abit of history and you'll know that Middle eastern indigenous were all dark skinned ppl, & they looked the same as Egyptian Indigenous aka Pharoahs. Now go find a Pharoah statue, & see who they resemble most? Those thai looking ppl or you? I beg to differ pal, they resemble them 100 times more than you. Therefore they're the lost tribe, & not today's Palestians or you to begin with! U stole it, now Jews took it back!
I dont think that these people belong to Israel ... yes there are many indian jews, but these..? I dont know. Seems to me that israel just needed more Jews in the country.