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People are convinced there are aliens because of the Roswell incident where the government tried to cover up the crash. Yes, the government did indeed cover the crash up but their motivations had nothing to do with aliens. They were hiding the fact that the plane that crashed was an experimental aircraft made of radar-reflective materials. -so.., cover-up yes, aliens no. You can also explain a couple of other alien sightings in much the same way, when you look at all the evidence.
Apparently during the Storm Area51 movement somebody actually did manage to get into the base and look around undetected. The only problem was that there was nothing to see other than the fact that whatever aircraft was in there had quite clearly been removed recently. When you think about it, this makes sense, because if you post a date when you're going to storm an area full of secrets publicly online, anyone with half a braincell would simply move all the stuff they don't want you to see out of there before you arrive.
Somewhere out there, the marketing team for Raid Shadow Legends are pounding their desk out of frustration and confusion, screaming: "You accepted *their* sponsorship but not *ours*?! Simon, WHY?!"
My husband was stationed at groom lake during the 80s. He doesn't talk about anything that he worked on. Occasionally we will watch something and he'll say, oh I didn't realize they declassified that.
I hear rumours about a man. A sole british man who according to said rumours was taking over youtube. One million channels and more appearing almost daily. I think i hav found that man. LEGEND.
I love how Simon goes on a short and very confused tangent about a farmer and his chores and little moments like that are what makes this channel so enjoyable.
I like most of his tangents but get a bit fed up with him always guessing at what was actually seen etc. Trying to make sure no one thinks there anything strange even though he's just guessing instead of letting the script develop. However yhea most of them are funny often because he's so unknowledgeable despite the fact he runs loads of fact based, educational channels.
Kenneth Arnold did NOT say the objects looked like saucers, he said they appeared to kind of skip across the sky like a saucer skipped on water. He actually described them as being a flying wing design. I'm convinced they were Horton brothers (German Designers) aircraft captured after WW II or the U.S.'s own version of those craft.
Area 51 is really simple, and easily explained by it's proximity to Vegas. It's just the space port visiting high rollers land at before hitting the slots. This is also why those gamblers are known as 'whales', because that what they look like. It also serves the purpose of drawing people's attention to Area 51, and not Area 42, which is the base that holds the answers to everything.
@@CornPopsDood But we're talking about government here, not common sense. Plus this is obviously what the government would want you to believe. Everything else is contained in a typical government answer to any questions, namely NCND (Neither Confirm Nor Deny). This is always a true statement given the solution is simple quantum superposition. Just as Fort Meade contains the world's largest concentration of mathematicians, Area 42 contains the world's largest quantity of qubits. Ergo, it contains all the answers. Simultaneously. As the famous whistleblower Douglas Adams pointed out, the question remains the challenge.
I have lived in Las Vegas, about a hundred miles away from Area 51 most of my 68 years on earth. Because of that fact, I am probably much more interested in Area 51 than most people. Add to that fact that most of my friends dads worked there or the adjacent nuclear test facility added to my curiosity. I am a firm believer that no little green men can be found there, same with alien technology. What is there is a lot of VERY advanced technologies being developed in aeronautics. Most, if not all, stealth technology came from this area. Don’t forget that a top secret radar research center is adjacent to Area 51. That’s not a coincidence I believe. Every day several Janis airway flights fly over my house flying people to Area 51 so yes, it is still very active. Janis is an airline set up exclusively for this mission. They have no other flights. Other than some basic factual mistakes in this video , it was well presented.
If we go by more admin we could probably say that Micheal Scott would be a s4 captain. And his boss is lieutenant colonel. If we go by infantry he may be a Lieutenant. The more important thing is, it’s really not that prestigious or hard to become a traditional officer. There are some that’s impressive, but most they just have a bachelors degree that’s basically it.
As someone with multiple navy seals in his family, it's amazing how much we romanticize the military. Are they emotionally tough? Yes. Do they neglect their families because they have a hard time forming and maintaining emotional bonds outside of trauma? Also yes.
From my USAF experience he would probably by an Lt. or Capt. Whilst deployed our maintenance element of about 30 had an LT and then the Company (yes it was a USAF Company) Commander was a Captain. The detachment commander was a Lt. Col and he reported to the Army Battalion Commander a Full Bird. Yay ILO deployments.
Simon.. my grandfather only finished the 7th grade and worked as a gas station attendant up until he enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1941, completing infantry O.C.S. Training. In 1942, he was transferred to the Army Air Force as a 2nd lieutenant heading his own B17 Bombing Crew finishing in 45 with a Rank of Captian. It was a different time in terms of educational and measuring intelligence and smarts.
To be fair, war will narrow down the prospect for you officer Corps as it goes on, but combat experience will start to fill the educational gap. His schooling was not a factor in his worth.
My grandma only had an 8th grade education because she had to drop out to take care of a younger sibling. It was pretty common back in the 30's. At the time it was also expected that the average person wouldn't be traveling further than Europe so it wasn't uncommon to limit history to the US and Europe. Your education was typically limited to only what you needed to function up until 8th grade and then high school and college were the more specialized education. Heck, when my mom went to high school in the late 60's and early 70's it was still common for high schools to have career tracks. My mother took the business career track which was designed to get you working in an office. You only took one science class in four years. There was also a math and science track which had reduced English and history courses. And a collegiate track which was more evenly rounded. My dad is younger than my mom and they had already started doing away with career tracks where he lived by the time he went to high school three years later. I think that they got rid of them about 5 years before my dad started high school. And my mom's high school got rid of them two years after she started high school, but it only effected incoming students. It wasn't until the late 70's/early 80's that school systems had somewhat standardized the idea of a rounded education and then set a mandatory education till 16. My mom graduated in 1972 and my dad graduated in 1975. My grandma's sister whom she raised got a college degree, as did both of my paternal grandparents. My paternal grandmother apparently didn't take a history course that taught more than passing information on countries outside of the US or Europe until she was in college.
Also one of my friends whom I texted while typing all this got her college degree in a narrow field of education around designing curriculums for school systems. She said that the big college push that effected millennials in the US was as a result of a bunch of education legislation in the 70's-90's. The UK had already been mandating minimum education standards for a while and the US was testing lower than pretty much all of Europe because Europe had already done a lot of education reforms. There was a big reform after World War 2 that made teaching a more globalized view of history as relevant because suddenly going to countries outside of Europe was a possibility. Then the next big batch in the 70's and early 80's made a minimum required standard for each subject which did away with most school systems that remained that had career tracks. There are still private schools and a few schools in the New York and LA public systems that follow the career track idea, the public ones aren't programs kids are put in by default (I went to college with a girl in one of the LA ones and worked a part time job in New York with a girl in one of the New York offerings) and the private ones often have deals with certain colleges to make sure that the career track wasn't all in vain. The private ones are often set up much more like a college with four classes a day and rotating schedules and they tend to have their semesters actually mean something since classes usually only run half the year. There's also magnet schools which are typically more stem focused and are usually half day at the regular high school and half day at the magnet school and then there are trade job training schools which are also typically half day at each. All this education reform then resulted in a big push for people to go to college since we also had lower college attendance rates than most other countries (probably because our college wasn't free) and a combination of factors and the company that runs the SATs wanting to get as many people as possible to take them resulted in a bigger push towards college attendance for students born in the 80's and 90's than previous generations.
Washington here. Many of our town and city names are bastardized versions of indigenous American names. Yakima is usually pronounced like Yak-im-a and Chehalis sounds like Cha-hail-is.
I always think about this when I hear folks “mispronounce” indigenous-based names. Like, how were these words/names pronounced by the people who originally named them? I only know how the general population of the area pronounces these place names currently.
One of my favorite Google Maps easter eggs is related to Area 51. If you drag the street view person onto the map in the areas north and south of Area 51, I was trying to look at a building in Alamo, NV for work, the normal yellow person is in a UFO.
Everything around Area 51 Groom Lake Papoose Lake is all airbrushed in you're only seeing what they want you to see the government owns Google Maps first and they airbrush everything in,,
If you use the earthquake overlay, you can see the extensive historical grid of underground nuclear tests with a Richter scale equivalent number. My favorite location is the airplane graveyard in Tucson!
My dad and my husband both were enlisted members of the U.S. Air Force. While I don't think either of them were the "bottom 1%", as a civilian employee working with the Air Force I can state without fear of contradiction that I met enlisted people who were brilliant (my husband) and officers who were a mere waste of oxygen (a lot of them). I once asked Hub how he could make himself salute people who he knew were useless, and he told me that he saluted the rank, not the person.
MOST military people aren't bottom 1%. Many of them are pretty smart even regular enlisted. They are really good at adapting and overcoming. Also being able to Mcguyver stuff.
@@Rykiz_Vidz I agree. The Kevins usually wash out during basic. But the officers who got their positions by exercising political clout are really hard to get rid of (and usually shuffled around to where they can't do as much damage).
Honestly, that sort of thing reminds me of the "those that can't do, teach" crap. It's used to insult people who go into any number of public service type fields.
I'm surprised there was no mention of the lawsuit in the mid 90s where several workers at area 51 sued the government due to improper handling of materials that led to the workers becoming terribly I'll. I thought that had been what forced the government to acknowledge the existence of the base.
100% I worked for an equipment vendor with mostly military and government work. My teams area included Groom Lake for a few years, but never got to go there. If its like the other sites its something like the backrooms but secured areas we just called by pod number. I bet one of those pods have big tittied aliens. A coworker had his access revoked due to a clerical error during lunch. 10 seconds after his 3rd keycard fail 6ish MPs had him on the ground M4 to the back of his head. I about pooped and I was down the hall.
Honestly, my conspiracy theory is that the government is encouraging conspiracy theories surrounding Area 51 to avoid cleaning up the environmental hazards they’ve created there.
@@leviturman1159 Groom Lake is where the government has scientists working on reverse engineering. This guy Bob Lazar, came out in the 70s or early 80s claiming he had footage of these things being flown around the area. He had his security pass and some then unknown samples of the element #115 of the periodic table number, he claimed they were called ununpentium. An artificial element created by scientists was #115 and named Moscovium in 2003. Take from that what you will.
"I thought that had been what forced the government to acknowledge the existence of the base" Nope. That came long after that. I want to say like around 2007 or so. Something like that. During the trial about the health effects that the people that were working there (and some who had already died) and trying to sue the government over their exposure to chemicals at Area 51 in the burn pits that they had there, the government *_was still using the argument that there was no such base that existed._* One of the lawyers that represented the people suing the government, exasperated from this bold faced delusion nonsense, even told the Judge that he'd personally drive him to the gates of the base and let him see it for himself. Eventually it all ended with President Clinton signing an Executive Order stating that the basically the base didn't have to disclose anything and could operate without oversight and supervision and was exempt from many laws.
Large amount of military are very intelligent. I was a Cyber Security Specialist, the brilliance some of the people I met during my 8 years in the Marines was insane. Some people, like myself, really just wanted to join for a bit.
100% believe this. I’m sure some of our best and brightest are in the military. Wanting to serve your country is a powerful and commendable motive in a country like the USA. Thank you for your service.
Also the comment about rank, he doesn't seem to have much of a clue... A Major is typically the rank of someone quite far up on the ladder, at least where I come from, where you have a fairly large 'distance' in terms of what you do compared to say an LT. Or, the level at which you plan and act more precisely, you rarely deal with exact detail of ops, more with which resources you assign and what time table you expect things to happen at. I should be able to explain it better but I'm drawing a blank in terms of good short explanations, mostly because it varied a lot from how it is on base VS off base. On base it's just planning, paperwork and meetings to coordinate and brief, off base a lot was making sure the plans are followed and executed upon the way you meant, occasionally something goes wrong enough to have to change the plan on the fly but that's less common.
I have an elite education, where I was taught the military, monster trucks and Jesus were for dummies. Then working in the complex, found military had some smart af ppl.
Speaking of the Cold War, my grandfather's uncle fought on the eastern front at the end of ww2. Back then just about everyone had a diary, even soldiers. My grandfather's uncle (my great uncle?) passed away in the early 60s and his things were given to his sister (my grandfather's mother) since he never married or had kids. Anyway in his diary he said that other soldiers were talking about the American and German army joining forces to push Soviet Union out of Germany. Hearing about this as a kid, I didn't understand the importance of such a thing. Even before the end of ww2, there was talk of the US going to war with Stalin. To the point where surrendering German soldiers believed they would fight alongside Americans. You can almost say that the cold war began in ww2.
If you're in Vegas, the white planes with the red stripe fly to Area 51. There is an airport terminal called JANET. Just Another Non Existant Terminal. Or, the only planes that fly north.
Here's the problem I have with the Roswell story. All this alleged debris couldn't be cut, torn, reshaped, nothing - and yet, it was in small pieces when they found it. Can nobody see the GIGANTIC LOGIC GAP here?? What, did it just spontaneously fall into shards?
I’m an environmental geologist. Worked emergency response for the rails roads, otr trucking, and DOD, DOE, and “other” federal sites. I also interacted with a lot of military federal and state chemical spill responders. Many told me that Area 51 is where they hide the horrible environmental failures. Things are produced there that can’t be made under OSHA rules. That’s all I want to say here. Thanks.
@@SeanGilbertson You are correct, because Hawthorne, NV is where all the bio-chemical weapons are stored. It's not really much a secret anymore though en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Army_Depot
Correct. But, that doesn't rule our others things such as experimental aircraft, space craft, or various weapons. All can be true. The alien story is a handy cover for DARPA and experimental aircraft/weapons. Aliens? Who said they were the same size as us? They could be microscopic. The crashed aircraft in Roswell was a Russian craft aimed in to our airspace (until it crashed) with a deformed (fresh dead) person tucked inside. That person was deformed from cruel experiments. Russia wanted to show how vulnerable our airspace was as a threat game. Our government let the alien story go wild to never let Russia get the credit. Nazi scientists after WW2 explain the experimental craft...and deformed person from cruel experiments. Why not aim both near our area or experiments? Area 51 is also where chemical, electric, etc. experiments are performed in animals and humans(prisoners, unregistered people, deformed living people with no families). Yes, some things have to be tested on real humans and animals. It's a place where things have to happen outside of the law the rest of us have to abide by. The tic tac thing is a cover story for our newest drone scanners that we have had to use to deal with Russia and China. The Ukraine and Russia war is getting help from the tic Tac drones. If Russia knew they were ours we would be drawn in to the war. The Howard Hughes Azorkian cover story is a good example of this. Also, plasma technology has come in to use. Plasma projections. Star in a box nuclear fusion. All of this tech to canceled out fossil fuel desperate Russia. It's time to release the tech. And we are. Ion projections in the sky. Also, how do you think DARPA could have handed over the rapid vaccine technology due to covid? They've had it it forever. Now the pharmaceutical companies have gotten ahold of it and cancer vaccines will be coming soon.
We have Native American words in America too. Those two names.... Chehalis = Shuh-HAY-lus and Yakima = YAK-ih-ma. Also, just to point out.... Chehalis isn't too far from McChord Air Force base. (Now known as Joint Base Fort Lewis McChord, or JBLM.)
Thanks for posting this. Longtime WA resident: I get that the indigenous words can be difficult if you've never heard them, but yeah, we use a lot of languages to name cities in the US.
I came looking for this comment, born and raised in Kitsap spent years hiking out in Suquamish, and on the Pennisula along the Dosewallips, have family in Sequim, and Quilcene.
I guess the reason why we haven't mastered interstellar travel yet is cos we have failed to realize that wood would be an essential component of any craft that might have a chance to master space travel
@@ThatWriterKevin you got a small detail incorrect, Roswell was a spy balloon not a weather balloon. Though you still came to the right conclusion about why an air force officer said it was a UFO initially for the most part.
Back in highschool had 2 friends go to West Point. They were both 4.0 students and one was valedictorian. Needless to say, you have to be very bright to go there. A degree from West Point is looked upon as being of the same caliber as other Ivy League school around the US.
"What's up with all the places I can't pronounce? I thought you spoke ENGLISH in America!" A lot of place names in the pacific northwest are (loosely) based on what the original inhabitants called them. Michael Scott would be a Captain, Majors are usually on the Colonel's or General's staff. A Lieutenant has 50-100 soldiers (platoon), a Captain commands 4 or 5 platoons (company), LT Colonel has 2-6 companies (battalion) with a Major as second in command, full COL has 2 battalions (regiment) with Majors in various admin positions (one for intel, one for operations, one for logistics, one in charge of training, etc.), and a Brigadier (1-star) General has 2 regiments (surprisingly called a brigade), and it continues similarly with the General in charge having another star at each level through division, corps, field army, army group, theatre command (Eisenhower and MacArthur in WWII, still same 5 stars as the previous level but more senior). And that's where it ends, aside from the honorary rank of "General of the Armies" which is theoretically a six-star General but so insignia was officially decided upon, only awarded to J.J. "Black Jack" Pershing (who just changed his four silver stars to gold) in 1919, and later posthumously in 1976 but backdated 200 years so he'd have seniority by date of rank, to George Washington bc nobody can outrank G-Wash.
Yeah, American place names often reflect the population that founded them, so they run the gamut from German to Native American and everything in-between.
The comments section on Simon's videos are always so on it. I was just starting the video and it's like less than an hour after it posted to tell him it's common for places in the Pacific NW especially to have names that come from the Native tribal peoples and I see I've already been beaten to the punch. Well done...I guess I can still say: they're pronounced "sha-HAY-liss" and "Yak-emma" 🤷🏻♂️
I grew up near the Willow Grove Air Base and in '91 or '92 we would see the stealth bomber flying around a year before it was publicly announced. It was neat, a black triangle in the sky. I don't recall anyone thinking it was aliens, but the town was pretty excited about seeing a secret military plane flying around
The intro story reminded me about the story of the small town in Texas(?) in the 1800s where an airship crashed. And that the townsfolk allegedly discovered an alien pilot that they tired to save from the wreckage, but ultimately died. So they buried it in their cemetery and the tombstone is still there but the town refuses to dig up the grave to investigate. I have a vague recollection of seeing something about that story 15 years ago. Not sure, but it might make for a thing to decode.
There is no tombstone. It is “mysteriously missing”…otherwise that would be a cool story and something worthy of looking at. Though the story failed to account for the invention and future improvement of ground penetrating radar
Ranchers do chores, which are just like it sounds. They are tasks that ranchers, farmers, etc have to do every day and they cannot be skipped or delayed. Things like feeding and making sure the animals have fresh water. Letting animals out into pasture or rotating pasture, etc. Harvesting or planting crops, watering said crops. Repair of buildings, vehicles, heavy equipment....chores. I am thoroughly impressed that you have your PPL or are working to get it. Hope all is well with you and your team Simon!
if you want another monster one you may think about doing an episode about the Monster of Lake Champlain, named Champ. could be a fun episode. theres supposed tracks, video footage, and even sonar recording of unknown sounds from the lake that are like whales talking.
The best U.S. Army to The Office analogy would be that Michael Scott is a Lieutenant Colonel. He is the senior officer in the organization with his superiors at a remote location with limited oversight and wide authority to exercise mission command to accomplish the organizational goals in the absence of oversight if needed. 😉
I think Kevin missed the fact that the captured MiG-21 tested at Area 51 helped pilots understand the weaknesses of the plane and this was passed on in the TOPGUN program. This helped the USN increase their kill/loss rate, unlike the USAF with their F4E planes with a cannon.
My dad's favorite conspiracy theory is the Roswell incident and how it changed aviation and blah blah. But holy crap the picture of a literal tinfoil kite is just beautiful
The building of the original base at Groom Lake so fast is easy to explain. Groom Lake is a dry lake bed. As long as it is completely dry it is plenty strong to support the U2. Of course as they wanted to land bigger & faster airplanes there they had to pave, first part and eventually lots, of the runway. But the initial base was quonset huts & barracks huts and a painted salt runway.
The Roswell wreckage was 1st taken to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio before being sent to Area 51 later. It was kept in Hangar 18 which became the title and inspiration for the 1980 movie.
Michael Scott would probably be the equivalent of an Army/Marine Lieutenant, but only with respect to personnel managed. A base General (1-2 star) would be more like a city manager, again only in terms of personnel managed.
I have a friend whose dad worked as a civilian contractor at Area 51 for a long time. He got *really* sick from being exposed to some incredibly toxic stuff there and died. The government totally stiffed his family on whatever pension they were supposed to get, too, and it's not like you can file a wrongful death lawsuit against a top secret military base. 😕I'm kind of a "believer" I guess but this video has definitely sold me on more conventional explanations. Well done, Simon and Kevin.
An attorney named Jonathan Turly sued the government representing several former soldiers who got very sick from the toxic burn pits at Area 51. His office in Washington DC is still considered as Top Secret and must remain locked and guarded at all times. Anyway Clinton stepped in and got the trial halted on the grounds that US defense secrets would be compromised and the sick soldiers and their families were never compensated for their suffering. And from what I understand they really suffered immensely.
The US Air Force dumped & burned toxic materials that killed/gave soldiers & contractors cancer, but denied benefits or even the existence of the base for years even though you could physically walk to the gates & actually see it!
@AsgardianTimeLordJedi The 1994 lawsuit against the USAF and EPA for the burning pits out at Area 51 is a well-known and well-documented case. There were many, many more people that had horrific health complications than just the 5 people in the initial suit, as well.
No the US does not have an official secrets act. You can discuss basically just about anything as long as you were not given a clearance to view it. (And yes that is what I meant)
The most hilarious part, to me, about Area 51: When the military heard the rumours of alien they embraced it hard... what better deflection to their own actions?
Yep. If your working on super secret weapons tech, and you want to deflect any credible suspicions of people who saw what you were working on: you could do worse then encouraging rumours of aliens to discredit the people casting those suspicions.
In my company we deal with the U S military all the time. The Air Force facility by Las Vegas has by far the most detailed and meticulous rules on the work we do,, just saying
My favorite hypothesis about what Kenneth Arnold saw that day is a formation of Horten Ho229 flying. I'm definitely not the first to notice the similarities, but most think it can't be it... The question is that, searching a bit more, you find that the US military brought all of them to the US and they flight tested them. And they were pretty unstable, which could explain how Kenneth Arnold described them. There was even video of the test flight, but without date.
Arnold didn’t see disc shaped craft they were more flying wing designs shaped like a boomerang he was describing how it flew like a saucer was skipping across the water that’s how the phrase flying saucer really came about
There are people in the Air Force whose sole job it is to brief officers about conditions that could change the nature of their mission, and then the officers make decisions based on that info. I can't remember where I saw this, but I saw a photo of some poor airman having to give a brief about the threat profile of Naruto running as a tactic. Full on power point presentation and everything.
Hearing Simon trying to say the city names in my state is the best thing ever haha he was way off but can’t blame him cause they are all native and they are hard to say correct when reading them
37:56 - Americans had a full blown meltdown over wearing a mask for a few months, if there was a national gag order like this in the US those same people would raid the capitol (again)
*technically* my uncle worked on UFOs in Area51. By that I mean he worked with ratheon and Lockheed on a component of the f117, and technically when working on it, it was still classified, so technically it would have been a UFO. More technically, his group weren't even told what the part was for until years (decades) later. And it was just a computer component, and he wasn't *in* area 51. It was just for a part that went there. :P
Why design the best warning system for anyone walking to close, flying and any other way to get close to the base. Yes most likely it's only planes etc but way to much mystery. It appears to be a large ungrounded base for the amount of planes flying in on a daily basis
6:24 And *_THAT_* dear Simon, is precisely why - if aliens existed - they would abduct random, unimportant people as opposed to important, high profile ones. 😁😁
Fun, weird fact: the term "flying saucer" comes from Arnold's description that their movement was like skimming a saucer across a river. Very strange imagery, and I can't find the quote itself to verify this next bit but my reading of it at the time was that he used the expression in a sort "as we all know" or something, as if it's a common thing for people to skip saucers across rivers. I've never heard of that, but if somebody else has, I would be extremely interested to hear about it!
I'd imagine skipping saucers would be an easier version of skipping stones on water, since the saucers are properly round and flat and the most important part of skipping rocks is to find a nice flat, roundish rock to throw at the river. You throw it kinda like a mini frisbee, and if you do it right it'll bounce off the surface of the water a couple times. I kinda want to get some cheap saucers and try to skip them now...
Roswell and Area 51 have very little to do with one another other than A51 MAYBE being the current resting place of the recovery. It is widely known the original recovery went to Wright Patterson AFB
My cousin was stationed at Area 51 and the CIA already came out and said little green men are the best cover story ever because we're looking for UFOs and not new technology
@@FallenMuse81 I feel ya but think about this too. Rachel and whatever towns around wouldn’t survive if it wasn’t for the revenue of all the tourism. Sophisticated way for them to make bank and survive. Personally, unless it’s an all paid expense. I wouldn’t bother going there because I’ve seen base gates before. Hang around areas of any base in America and you’ll see things that are unexplained and not known to the average person. Even fort Campbell has “UFO” sightings documented. Many other bases too.
There is so much disinformation about Roswell there's no way to know what actually happened. Oddly Simon has it backwards- there is a great deal of evidence that showed that there was much more to the debris than sticks and tinfoil, the disinformation was trying to make the event seem less important than it was, not the other way around. For instance several large trucks were filled with pieces of the wreckage, including large pieces the size of a bomber fuselage or larger. I had always assumed this was a test aircraft as that was what groom lake was known for. However, in the late 1970's I became a fighter pilot, and was assigned to the F-15C. At the time the eagle was the fastest fighter in the sky, and it would remain so. The Mig 25 was technically faster but 1. It was no fighter plane, it was designed for shooting down the SR-71, Which it never came close to doing, and 2. The Mig destroyed it's engines if it went faster than the Eagle. Kind of like a Bic lighter. I was assigned to Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. Russia was just a short hop away, and we frequently played cold war games with those lunatics, seeing who would blow up the world first. It was all good fun until we started seeing the... Craft. These craft could easily out turn us, out accelerate us, they could apparently hover at 80,000 feet. They could drop from 80,000 to 10 feet off the deck in seconds, stopping so suddenly a human would have been jello. Turns that exceeded 3000 G's They sometimes flew off into space apparently. Climbed though , 80,000 feet at mach 30 and just kept going. Several pilots reported seeing them fly under water. We were finally told to stop reporting them unless they did something new. After leaving the air force I put them out of my mind. Until I saw them on tv one night recently, and saw commander Furvor describing his encounter with them in his super hornet off the California coast while deployed on the USS NIMITZ. That is all.
Didn't it happen that the Roswell wreckage was 1st taken to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio and kept in Hangar 18 before being sent to Area 51 later?
I’m a former enlisted US Marine. I have a math degree and was a Mensa member. I served with some idiots, but the vast majority were highly intelligent. And some were definitely sharp as a Recon Marine’s K-Bar.
35:30 The U-2 spy plane wasn't designed to be primarily stealthy. It was, however, specifically engineered to fly higher than the Soviet anti-air defense systems could reach with their missiles. It also flew much faster than the MiG interceptor planes that would attempt to catch it. So yeah, it worked very well. It was only later, after the Soviet Union upgraded its SAM technology, that the plane was effectively engaged.
That's not what happened to Gary Powers. The Soviets first sent up a MiG, to try to intercept the U2. MiGs were not capable of matching the U2's altitude. The Soviets then tried to hit the U2 with a missile, but instead ended up hitting one of their own MiGs. So, the Soviets then hurriedly stripped-down a Sukhoi (no guns; no missiles.) The stripped-down Sukhoi was able to match Gary's speed and altitude, but had no weapons with which to "shoot down" the U2. Just the same, the Sukhoi pilot was ordered to bring down Gary's U2. So, the pilot got creative... he got in front of the U2, and created a wake of "dirty" turbulence. This caused the nose of the U2 to "nose up." Traveling at 400 mph, the long, slender wings of Gary's U2 "snapped" off. This is how Gary Powers was brought down.
Sometime prior to WW2 the Soviet Union sent a high-altitude experimental plane over the United States. It made the news and was published in Life magazine, but I forgot which issue. I read about this incursion during the early Seventies. So, yes, there have been advanced aviation projects in the past.
14:15 - Chapter 1 - The roswell incident 23:10 - Chapter 2 - The area 51 conspiracy 32:55 - Chapter 3 - The true history of area 51 43:55 - Chapter 4 - Storm area 51 45:40 - Chapter 5 - Wrap up PS: Still waiting for the episode *Ball Lightning : The shocking truth*
*_I'm from Yakima... pronounced 'Yack a ma', it's an Indian Tribe in Washington State._* There are frequent strange clouds that form over Mt Rainier. It is what Kenneth Arnold probably saw that fateful day. He did not describe them as saucer shaped, rather they looked like saucers skipping over water. The clouds look like a number of saucers stacked on top of each other. Looking down from a small plane can give a distorted perspective. In 1947 private planes did not have sophisticated instruments or even Radar. I have it from a reliable source here... namely Bigfoot says ET has never just dropped by for a howdy do y'all. Also Bigfoot avoids Groom Lake (Area 51). The armed security guards are trigger happy when it comes to hairy things not fitting in. *_Obviously Bigfoot keeps a low profile whenever he travels..._*
Simon. Dude, I work at area 51 Have you ever noticed that different people/accounts say those immortal black adder joking words? This is why i have to change my details and IP address regularly so any secrets I leak don't come back to me... Oh and the black adder reference... Please please please never stop ♥️
I wonder how hard it would be to reverse engineer advance alien tech. If we sent a cell phone or an F-35 back into 1600AD, would they be able to do anything with it?
probably not. They barely had a grasp on electricity, semiconductors would be beyond them. If you went back with one and could get it to work , or hey even without the cell network had it charged up and could show them a video, you'd probably be accused of witchcraft. Interestingly enough , a "black mirror" is an item that was said to be used for scrying and we all have one now :D
All modern inventions are built upon previous inventions or discoveries. So, without modern smelting, moulding, fiberboard circuitry, etc, they wouldn't be able to do much. Inspiration, maybe, like being able to form factor a flyable plane sooner. A cellphone would just be a door stopper or paper weight. 😂
I’m from Washington and hearing Simon mess up city names is hilarious. Yakama is pronounced YAK a ma. Also there is a training ground in yakama. I spent a lot of time there when I was stationed in Fort Lewis
The biggest secret of alll? It is *literally* the technical specifications and capabilities of top-end warfighting equipment. That's *it* - there is literally nothing else. Look - I've been friends with this guy since we were dumb, students, goofing off and doing teenage sh*t instead of going to college - and by the way, we still got grades and did okay. When we were 20, he joined the Navy. He went on to have a great career as an officer, saw incredible stuff, did pretty f888in' incredible things, got promoted and *now* holds a Very Important Post where, not to put too fine a point on it, he's kind of a key figure in military-industrial procurement and trade matters, which is the hard-tech edge of International Diplomacy. He knows a lot of stuff way before we do. He's probably forgotten more secrets than I've ever learned about. And he's told me some interesting stuff over the years which has really opened my eyes and put things into sharper focus. And? Well, we get drunk occasionally. And our circle of mates all gets tanked up and starts to talk louder and more politically and a bit shoutier and less coherent and *WAAAY* less inhibited. You know the score. And you know what hints of the Grand Secret have slipped from this Important Guy In The Know best mate from my youth way back when? - *Precisely F--K ALL is how much* Because there's no big secret apart from "We really don't want you to know the full performance specifications of the electronics in this aeroplane / missile that you see here and That's Why It's Classified. Now stop asking. - Oh all right it's aliens. Are you satisfied now?
The weather balloon was made of balsa wood, rubber, and thin foil. Yes, it works really good in space and would not burn up in the atmosphere. No, it would. It's obviously not an alien ship.
Yes. Any type of mental instability is not allowed most clearances. My father went from CT to ET after having a break which was probably due to alcoholism. I’ve seen his papers after he passed and he got called on the rug for overdraft checks. The military takes financial responsibility very seriously. Just as they do affairs.
I don't think its a long enough story for a video, but the old story of the experimental plane pilot who wore a gorilla mask, top hat, and cigar, so that if anyone saw him they'd think they were crazy, always comes to mind with stuff like this.
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People are convinced there are aliens because of the Roswell incident where the government tried to cover up the crash.
Yes, the government did indeed cover the crash up but their motivations had nothing to do with aliens.
They were hiding the fact that the plane that crashed was an experimental aircraft made of radar-reflective materials.
-so.., cover-up yes, aliens no. You can also explain a couple of other alien sightings in much the same way, when you look at all the evidence.
Apparently during the Storm Area51 movement somebody actually did manage to get into the base and look around undetected.
The only problem was that there was nothing to see other than the fact that whatever aircraft was in there had quite clearly been removed recently.
When you think about it, this makes sense, because if you post a date when you're going to storm an area full of secrets publicly online,
anyone with half a braincell would simply move all the stuff they don't want you to see out of there before you arrive.
0:15 “That’s why I love Conflict of Nations”. 😐 Video of you playing the game and enjoying it or I’ll never trust you again Simon.
The link did nothing for me
Somewhere out there, the marketing team for Raid Shadow Legends are pounding their desk out of frustration and confusion, screaming: "You accepted *their* sponsorship but not *ours*?! Simon, WHY?!"
My husband was stationed at groom lake during the 80s. He doesn't talk about anything that he worked on. Occasionally we will watch something and he'll say, oh I didn't realize they declassified that.
That area is where atomic bomb experiments happened, so stay away,,,
I think the hardest thing to believe about this episode is that Simon plays any kind of video games let alone conflict of nations haha.
That game looks like crap
@@peterswanson3446It is crap.
I hear rumours about a man. A sole british man who according to said rumours was taking over youtube. One million channels and more appearing almost daily. I think i hav found that man. LEGEND.
Simon said in a video that he say his middle name is “Legend” in university
Don’t forget…one British man broadcasting from his hidden stronghold somewhere in the Czech Republic … all we know for sure is it has a basement!
@@vickiewallace415 sounds like a James Bond villain
I wonder how many clones he has. One British man can't record this many videos all by himself. Not enough time.
Lmfao!!! Good stuff.
I love how Simon goes on a short and very confused tangent about a farmer and his chores and little moments like that are what makes this channel so enjoyable.
The real secret is area 52. 52 cards in the deck 52 weeks in the year
@@SoylentJesusit goes even deeper. What's 5+2=? 7. 7 days of the week
I like most of his tangents but get a bit fed up with him always guessing at what was actually seen etc. Trying to make sure no one thinks there anything strange even though he's just guessing instead of letting the script develop. However yhea most of them are funny often because he's so unknowledgeable despite the fact he runs loads of fact based, educational channels.
@@SavagelyBadAtLosing 5*2? ... 10... the base of our number system. Coincidence??
Farmers very much have chores I'd imagine. It's a very strenuous job to my knowledge
Hearing Simon try and pronounce Native American place name brings me joy lol.
LOL, I just posted the same… as a native from Ohio I forget how challenging these names are for people!
As an Oregonian, its always amusing to see people try to pronounce city names from WA amd OR.
Same. I live in WA state lol
Anyone told him yet, "shuh-HAY-liss" and "YAK-i-ma". I moved from Louisiana to the PNW. People pronounce 90% of the places I know wrong.
@@pentalarclikesit822 they can can pronounce Seattle and Tacoma fine I want him to try Sequim
Kenneth Arnold did NOT say the objects looked like saucers, he said they appeared to kind of skip across the sky like a saucer skipped on water. He actually described them as being a flying wing design. I'm convinced they were Horton brothers (German Designers) aircraft captured after WW II or the U.S.'s own version of those craft.
Area 51 is really simple, and easily explained by it's proximity to Vegas. It's just the space port visiting high rollers land at before hitting the slots. This is also why those gamblers are known as 'whales', because that what they look like. It also serves the purpose of drawing people's attention to Area 51, and not Area 42, which is the base that holds the answers to everything.
Finally somebody awake to the truth!
Ah yes, Area 42
Douglas N. Adams Air Force Base 😉😁
Fax
Although it may hold some answers, common sense tells you that there is no single place to find “all the answers”.
@@CornPopsDood But we're talking about government here, not common sense. Plus this is obviously what the government would want you to believe. Everything else is contained in a typical government answer to any questions, namely NCND (Neither Confirm Nor Deny). This is always a true statement given the solution is simple quantum superposition.
Just as Fort Meade contains the world's largest concentration of mathematicians, Area 42 contains the world's largest quantity of qubits. Ergo, it contains all the answers. Simultaneously. As the famous whistleblower Douglas Adams pointed out, the question remains the challenge.
I have lived in Las Vegas, about a hundred miles away from Area 51 most of my 68 years on earth. Because of that fact, I am probably much more interested in Area 51 than most people. Add to that fact that most of my friends dads worked there or the adjacent nuclear test facility added to my curiosity. I am a firm believer that no little green men can be found there, same with alien technology.
What is there is a lot of VERY advanced technologies being developed in aeronautics. Most, if not all, stealth technology came from this area. Don’t forget that a top secret radar research center is adjacent to Area 51. That’s not a coincidence I believe. Every day several Janis airway flights fly over my house flying people to Area 51 so yes, it is still very active. Janis is an airline set up exclusively for this mission. They have no other flights.
Other than some basic factual mistakes in this video , it was well presented.
I'm sure the sneezing fit is the mind control array rewriting Simon's perception of the script so he doesn't reveal any of the alien secrets.
Its April which is allergy season - tons of pollen in the air.
@@aliensoup2420 Or, hear me out, aliens.
That was so wierd he sneezed while I was reading your comment 😂
Simon making fatherly noises hrrmm hrrmm koff choke gag blorg.
IT'S THE ONLY EXPLANATION 😲 I BELIEVE
I feel like most of my (and maybe Simons) knowledge about US military ranks comes from watching stargate
If we go by more admin we could probably say that Micheal Scott would be a s4 captain. And his boss is lieutenant colonel.
If we go by infantry he may be a Lieutenant. The more important thing is, it’s really not that prestigious or hard to become a traditional officer. There are some that’s impressive, but most they just have a bachelors degree that’s basically it.
As someone with multiple navy seals in his family, it's amazing how much we romanticize the military. Are they emotionally tough? Yes. Do they neglect their families because they have a hard time forming and maintaining emotional bonds outside of trauma? Also yes.
From my USAF experience he would probably by an Lt. or Capt. Whilst deployed our maintenance element of about 30 had an LT and then the Company (yes it was a USAF Company) Commander was a Captain. The detachment commander was a Lt. Col and he reported to the Army Battalion Commander a Full Bird. Yay ILO deployments.
* Lieutenant sweats in field with compass and map *
I would have thought of the office as being G staff and Michael, therefore, as a G4 LTC.
I actually love Simon, he’s a treasure! I spend more time listening to him speak than my friends or family 😂
Simon.. my grandfather only finished the 7th grade and worked as a gas station attendant up until he enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1941, completing infantry O.C.S. Training. In 1942, he was transferred to the Army Air Force as a 2nd lieutenant heading his own B17 Bombing Crew finishing in 45 with a Rank of Captian. It was a different time in terms of educational and measuring intelligence and smarts.
To be fair, war will narrow down the prospect for you officer Corps as it goes on, but combat experience will start to fill the educational gap. His schooling was not a factor in his worth.
My grandma only had an 8th grade education because she had to drop out to take care of a younger sibling. It was pretty common back in the 30's. At the time it was also expected that the average person wouldn't be traveling further than Europe so it wasn't uncommon to limit history to the US and Europe. Your education was typically limited to only what you needed to function up until 8th grade and then high school and college were the more specialized education. Heck, when my mom went to high school in the late 60's and early 70's it was still common for high schools to have career tracks. My mother took the business career track which was designed to get you working in an office. You only took one science class in four years. There was also a math and science track which had reduced English and history courses. And a collegiate track which was more evenly rounded. My dad is younger than my mom and they had already started doing away with career tracks where he lived by the time he went to high school three years later. I think that they got rid of them about 5 years before my dad started high school. And my mom's high school got rid of them two years after she started high school, but it only effected incoming students. It wasn't until the late 70's/early 80's that school systems had somewhat standardized the idea of a rounded education and then set a mandatory education till 16. My mom graduated in 1972 and my dad graduated in 1975. My grandma's sister whom she raised got a college degree, as did both of my paternal grandparents. My paternal grandmother apparently didn't take a history course that taught more than passing information on countries outside of the US or Europe until she was in college.
Also one of my friends whom I texted while typing all this got her college degree in a narrow field of education around designing curriculums for school systems. She said that the big college push that effected millennials in the US was as a result of a bunch of education legislation in the 70's-90's. The UK had already been mandating minimum education standards for a while and the US was testing lower than pretty much all of Europe because Europe had already done a lot of education reforms. There was a big reform after World War 2 that made teaching a more globalized view of history as relevant because suddenly going to countries outside of Europe was a possibility. Then the next big batch in the 70's and early 80's made a minimum required standard for each subject which did away with most school systems that remained that had career tracks. There are still private schools and a few schools in the New York and LA public systems that follow the career track idea, the public ones aren't programs kids are put in by default (I went to college with a girl in one of the LA ones and worked a part time job in New York with a girl in one of the New York offerings) and the private ones often have deals with certain colleges to make sure that the career track wasn't all in vain. The private ones are often set up much more like a college with four classes a day and rotating schedules and they tend to have their semesters actually mean something since classes usually only run half the year. There's also magnet schools which are typically more stem focused and are usually half day at the regular high school and half day at the magnet school and then there are trade job training schools which are also typically half day at each.
All this education reform then resulted in a big push for people to go to college since we also had lower college attendance rates than most other countries (probably because our college wasn't free) and a combination of factors and the company that runs the SATs wanting to get as many people as possible to take them resulted in a bigger push towards college attendance for students born in the 80's and 90's than previous generations.
"You have to be pretty smart to be a military officer right?"
* Lieutenant sweats in field with map and compass *
It's funny how, at first, stress makes you look like Mr. Bean with a degree.
Washington here. Many of our town and city names are bastardized versions of indigenous American names. Yakima is usually pronounced like Yak-im-a and Chehalis sounds like Cha-hail-is.
I always think about this when I hear folks “mispronounce” indigenous-based names. Like, how were these words/names pronounced by the people who originally named them? I only know how the general population of the area pronounces these place names currently.
One of my favorite Google Maps easter eggs is related to Area 51. If you drag the street view person onto the map in the areas north and south of Area 51, I was trying to look at a building in Alamo, NV for work, the normal yellow person is in a UFO.
Everything around Area 51 Groom Lake Papoose Lake is all airbrushed in you're only seeing what they want you to see the government owns Google Maps first and they airbrush everything in,,
If you use the earthquake overlay, you can see the extensive historical grid of underground nuclear tests with a Richter scale equivalent number. My favorite location is the airplane graveyard in Tucson!
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My dad and my husband both were enlisted members of the U.S. Air Force. While I don't think either of them were the "bottom 1%", as a civilian employee working with the Air Force I can state without fear of contradiction that I met enlisted people who were brilliant (my husband) and officers who were a mere waste of oxygen (a lot of them). I once asked Hub how he could make himself salute people who he knew were useless, and he told me that he saluted the rank, not the person.
Doubly so if he worked at Moody in the 80s.
Seems like a miscarriage of justice to assign a rank worthy of respect to a person not worthy of respect.
MOST military people aren't bottom 1%. Many of them are pretty smart even regular enlisted. They are really good at adapting and overcoming. Also being able to Mcguyver stuff.
@@Rykiz_Vidz I agree. The Kevins usually wash out during basic. But the officers who got their positions by exercising political clout are really hard to get rid of (and usually shuffled around to where they can't do as much damage).
Honestly, that sort of thing reminds me of the "those that can't do, teach" crap. It's used to insult people who go into any number of public service type fields.
“Yeah yeah yeah the alien spacecraft - that was made out of wood; that common interplanetary craft material - tree” Mwahahaha, falling about here 😂😂😂
I'm surprised there was no mention of the lawsuit in the mid 90s where several workers at area 51 sued the government due to improper handling of materials that led to the workers becoming terribly I'll. I thought that had been what forced the government to acknowledge the existence of the base.
A civilian bought pictures after the USSR collapsed for something like $1500 dollars. That’s when the whole “doesn’t exist” ploy lost all credibility.
100%
I worked for an equipment vendor with mostly military and government work. My teams area included Groom Lake for a few years, but never got to go there. If its like the other sites its something like the backrooms but secured areas we just called by pod number. I bet one of those pods have big tittied aliens.
A coworker had his access revoked due to a clerical error during lunch. 10 seconds after his 3rd keycard fail 6ish MPs had him on the ground M4 to the back of his head. I about pooped and I was down the hall.
Honestly, my conspiracy theory is that the government is encouraging conspiracy theories surrounding Area 51 to avoid cleaning up the environmental hazards they’ve created there.
@@leviturman1159 Groom Lake is where the government has scientists working on reverse engineering. This guy Bob Lazar, came out in the 70s or early 80s claiming he had footage of these things being flown around the area. He had his security pass and some then unknown samples of the element #115 of the periodic table number, he claimed they were called ununpentium. An artificial element created by scientists was #115 and named Moscovium in 2003. Take from that what you will.
"I thought that had been what forced the government to acknowledge the existence of the base"
Nope. That came long after that. I want to say like around 2007 or so. Something like that. During the trial about the health effects that the people that were working there (and some who had already died) and trying to sue the government over their exposure to chemicals at Area 51 in the burn pits that they had there, the government *_was still using the argument that there was no such base that existed._* One of the lawyers that represented the people suing the government, exasperated from this bold faced delusion nonsense, even told the Judge that he'd personally drive him to the gates of the base and let him see it for himself. Eventually it all ended with President Clinton signing an Executive Order stating that the basically the base didn't have to disclose anything and could operate without oversight and supervision and was exempt from many laws.
Large amount of military are very intelligent. I was a Cyber Security Specialist, the brilliance some of the people I met during my 8 years in the Marines was insane. Some people, like myself, really just wanted to join for a bit.
100% believe this. I’m sure some of our best and brightest are in the military. Wanting to serve your country is a powerful and commendable motive in a country like the USA.
Thank you for your service.
Not me. I was 0311…I was a monkey.
@@charlesbryson7443 MOS 0311 is the backbone of the USMC! Thank you for your service!
Also the comment about rank, he doesn't seem to have much of a clue... A Major is typically the rank of someone quite far up on the ladder, at least where I come from, where you have a fairly large 'distance' in terms of what you do compared to say an LT. Or, the level at which you plan and act more precisely, you rarely deal with exact detail of ops, more with which resources you assign and what time table you expect things to happen at. I should be able to explain it better but I'm drawing a blank in terms of good short explanations, mostly because it varied a lot from how it is on base VS off base. On base it's just planning, paperwork and meetings to coordinate and brief, off base a lot was making sure the plans are followed and executed upon the way you meant, occasionally something goes wrong enough to have to change the plan on the fly but that's less common.
I have an elite education, where I was taught the military, monster trucks and Jesus were for dummies. Then working in the complex, found military had some smart af ppl.
Speaking of the Cold War, my grandfather's uncle fought on the eastern front at the end of ww2. Back then just about everyone had a diary, even soldiers. My grandfather's uncle (my great uncle?) passed away in the early 60s and his things were given to his sister (my grandfather's mother) since he never married or had kids. Anyway in his diary he said that other soldiers were talking about the American and German army joining forces to push Soviet Union out of Germany.
Hearing about this as a kid, I didn't understand the importance of such a thing. Even before the end of ww2, there was talk of the US going to war with Stalin. To the point where surrendering German soldiers believed they would fight alongside Americans.
You can almost say that the cold war began in ww2.
Keep the good content coming lad! I’m a truck driver and you make the day go by quicker with the good videos!
If you're in Vegas, the white planes with the red stripe fly to Area 51. There is an airport terminal called JANET. Just Another Non Existant Terminal. Or, the only planes that fly north.
Here's the problem I have with the Roswell story. All this alleged debris couldn't be cut, torn, reshaped, nothing - and yet, it was in small pieces when they found it. Can nobody see the GIGANTIC LOGIC GAP here?? What, did it just spontaneously fall into shards?
WA resident here. A lot of our towns and cities are named after the native tribes (Spokane, Tacoma, Yakama, Wenatchee, Colville, Kalispel etc).
I’m an environmental geologist. Worked emergency response for the rails roads, otr trucking, and DOD, DOE, and “other” federal sites. I also interacted with a lot of military federal and state chemical spill responders. Many told me that Area 51 is where they hide the horrible environmental failures. Things are produced there that can’t be made under OSHA rules. That’s all I want to say here. Thanks.
Well you may as well have said none of it at all because it’s all BS.
@@SeanGilbertson You are correct, because Hawthorne, NV is where all the bio-chemical weapons are stored. It's not really much a secret anymore though en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawthorne_Army_Depot
"Erroneous" is a fitting name here
Correct. But, that doesn't rule our others things such as experimental aircraft, space craft, or various weapons. All can be true. The alien story is a handy cover for DARPA and experimental aircraft/weapons. Aliens? Who said they were the same size as us? They could be microscopic. The crashed aircraft in Roswell was a Russian craft aimed in to our airspace (until it crashed) with a deformed (fresh dead) person tucked inside. That person was deformed from cruel experiments. Russia wanted to show how vulnerable our airspace was as a threat game. Our government let the alien story go wild to never let Russia get the credit. Nazi scientists after WW2 explain the experimental craft...and deformed person from cruel experiments. Why not aim both near our area or experiments? Area 51 is also where chemical, electric, etc. experiments are performed in animals and humans(prisoners, unregistered people, deformed living people with no families). Yes, some things have to be tested on real humans and animals. It's a place where things have to happen outside of the law the rest of us have to abide by. The tic tac thing is a cover story for our newest drone scanners that we have had to use to deal with Russia and China. The Ukraine and Russia war is getting help from the tic Tac drones. If Russia knew they were ours we would be drawn in to the war. The Howard Hughes Azorkian cover story is a good example of this. Also, plasma technology has come in to use. Plasma projections. Star in a box nuclear fusion. All of this tech to canceled out fossil fuel desperate Russia. It's time to release the tech. And we are. Ion projections in the sky. Also, how do you think DARPA could have handed over the rapid vaccine technology due to covid? They've had it it forever. Now the pharmaceutical companies have gotten ahold of it and cancer vaccines will be coming soon.
@@technicalitems731 That's a lot of words to say you'll believe anything
Military person #1: The locals think it was an alien spaceship.
Military person #2: Good, then they won't try looking into what we're really doing.
42:10 I'm getting some serious Arthur Dent vibes from you Simon. 😂😂❤
We have Native American words in America too. Those two names.... Chehalis = Shuh-HAY-lus and Yakima = YAK-ih-ma. Also, just to point out.... Chehalis isn't too far from McChord Air Force base. (Now known as Joint Base Fort Lewis McChord, or JBLM.)
Thanks for posting this. Longtime WA resident: I get that the indigenous words can be difficult if you've never heard them, but yeah, we use a lot of languages to name cities in the US.
@@tashannoc Born and Raised in Issaquah. (Have fun with that one Simon...)
I came looking for this comment, born and raised in Kitsap spent years hiking out in Suquamish, and on the Pennisula along the Dosewallips, have family in Sequim, and Quilcene.
He would never get Sequim right either
Try Walla Walla, and Spokane.
I guess the reason why we haven't mastered interstellar travel yet is cos we have failed to realize that wood would be an essential component of any craft that might have a chance to master space travel
You have made the very tired and old Roswell incident incredibly amusing and entertaining. I smashed the thumbs up button.
Thanks! ❤
@@ThatWriterKevin you got a small detail incorrect, Roswell was a spy balloon not a weather balloon. Though you still came to the right conclusion about why an air force officer said it was a UFO initially for the most part.
Back in highschool had 2 friends go to West Point. They were both 4.0 students and one was valedictorian. Needless to say, you have to be very bright to go there. A degree from West Point is looked upon as being of the same caliber as other Ivy League school around the US.
"What's up with all the places I can't pronounce? I thought you spoke ENGLISH in America!" A lot of place names in the pacific northwest are (loosely) based on what the original inhabitants called them.
Michael Scott would be a Captain, Majors are usually on the Colonel's or General's staff. A Lieutenant has 50-100 soldiers (platoon), a Captain commands 4 or 5 platoons (company), LT Colonel has 2-6 companies (battalion) with a Major as second in command, full COL has 2 battalions (regiment) with Majors in various admin positions (one for intel, one for operations, one for logistics, one in charge of training, etc.), and a Brigadier (1-star) General has 2 regiments (surprisingly called a brigade), and it continues similarly with the General in charge having another star at each level through division, corps, field army, army group, theatre command (Eisenhower and MacArthur in WWII, still same 5 stars as the previous level but more senior). And that's where it ends, aside from the honorary rank of "General of the Armies" which is theoretically a six-star General but so insignia was officially decided upon, only awarded to J.J. "Black Jack" Pershing (who just changed his four silver stars to gold) in 1919, and later posthumously in 1976 but backdated 200 years so he'd have seniority by date of rank, to George Washington bc nobody can outrank G-Wash.
Yeah, American place names often reflect the population that founded them, so they run the gamut from German to Native American and everything in-between.
The comments section on Simon's videos are always so on it. I was just starting the video and it's like less than an hour after it posted to tell him it's common for places in the Pacific NW especially to have names that come from the Native tribal peoples and I see I've already been beaten to the punch. Well done...I guess I can still say: they're pronounced "sha-HAY-liss" and "Yak-emma" 🤷🏻♂️
lol he should try and pronounce towns in upper Michigan.
Chattanooga 😅
We've got some doosies up here. Puyallup, Snoqualmie, Sequim, and of course... Nooksack
I grew up near the Willow Grove Air Base and in '91 or '92 we would see the stealth bomber flying around a year before it was publicly announced. It was neat, a black triangle in the sky. I don't recall anyone thinking it was aliens, but the town was pretty excited about seeing a secret military plane flying around
The intro story reminded me about the story of the small town in Texas(?) in the 1800s where an airship crashed. And that the townsfolk allegedly discovered an alien pilot that they tired to save from the wreckage, but ultimately died. So they buried it in their cemetery and the tombstone is still there but the town refuses to dig up the grave to investigate. I have a vague recollection of seeing something about that story 15 years ago. Not sure, but it might make for a thing to decode.
It was done as a joke, and to boost turism
There is no tombstone. It is “mysteriously missing”…otherwise that would be a cool story and something worthy of looking at.
Though the story failed to account for the invention and future improvement of ground penetrating radar
I promise you that story is bullshit trying to boost tourism to go to their shitty little town nobody cares about.
I've also heard that it's an unmarked grave so nobody else will try to dig it up
They didn't have time for aliens They were too busy with enslavement.
Ranchers do chores, which are just like it sounds. They are tasks that ranchers, farmers, etc have to do every day and they cannot be skipped or delayed. Things like feeding and making sure the animals have fresh water. Letting animals out into pasture or rotating pasture, etc. Harvesting or planting crops, watering said crops. Repair of buildings, vehicles, heavy equipment....chores.
I am thoroughly impressed that you have your PPL or are working to get it. Hope all is well with you and your team Simon!
if you want another monster one you may think about doing an episode about the Monster of Lake Champlain, named Champ. could be a fun episode. theres supposed tracks, video footage, and even sonar recording of unknown sounds from the lake that are like whales talking.
Okay, but what would Michael Scott’s position’s military counterpart be? Lieutenant? Major??
I'm a simple boy, I see Simon and team uploaded something, I click. Love ya, fact boi...
The best U.S. Army to The Office analogy would be that Michael Scott is a Lieutenant Colonel. He is the senior officer in the organization with his superiors at a remote location with limited oversight and wide authority to exercise mission command to accomplish the organizational goals in the absence of oversight if needed. 😉
I think Kevin missed the fact that the captured MiG-21 tested at Area 51 helped pilots understand the weaknesses of the plane and this was passed on in the TOPGUN program. This helped the USN increase their kill/loss rate, unlike the USAF with their F4E planes with a cannon.
My dad's favorite conspiracy theory is the Roswell incident and how it changed aviation and blah blah. But holy crap the picture of a literal tinfoil kite is just beautiful
I have a Groom Lake S4 pass. There's nothing to see. This not the base you're looking for. 👌*mind trick hand thing*
The building of the original base at Groom Lake so fast is easy to explain. Groom Lake is a dry lake bed. As long as it is completely dry it is plenty strong to support the U2. Of course as they wanted to land bigger & faster airplanes there they had to pave, first part and eventually lots, of the runway. But the initial base was quonset huts & barracks huts and a painted salt runway.
As a former state soldier, I can honestly say I never got to learn these top secret things, which is ok by me. You made this video exciting. Thanks.
Even if you had the CIA would have wiped your memory before you were allowed to leave, allegedly
You would say that...
@@SpectrumofSmartsyour mom would say that.
@@Kyle-vb3fz Yes, with sincerity
Back in the 70s, Soviet Pilot defected with a MiG-21, flew to Japan. It was returned to Russia in 7 crates of pieces. Pilot is U.S. citizen now.
Wasn't there also a MiG-25 that did that?
We all know that's just Simon's basement. #FreeDanny
Alegendly.
The Roswell wreckage was 1st taken to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio before being sent to Area 51 later. It was kept in Hangar 18 which became the title and inspiration for the 1980 movie.
Michael Scott would probably be the equivalent of an Army/Marine Lieutenant, but only with respect to personnel managed. A base General (1-2 star) would be more like a city manager, again only in terms of personnel managed.
1st Sergeant says I. Started as a salesman(private) and worked his way up.
I live in Pahrump, Nevada... about 100-150 miles south of Area 51
I've seen some strange shit in the sky around here
I have a friend whose dad worked as a civilian contractor at Area 51 for a long time. He got *really* sick from being exposed to some incredibly toxic stuff there and died. The government totally stiffed his family on whatever pension they were supposed to get, too, and it's not like you can file a wrongful death lawsuit against a top secret military base. 😕I'm kind of a "believer" I guess but this video has definitely sold me on more conventional explanations. Well done, Simon and Kevin.
An attorney named Jonathan Turly sued the government representing several former soldiers who got very sick from the toxic burn pits at Area 51. His office in Washington DC is still considered as Top Secret and must remain locked and guarded at all times.
Anyway Clinton stepped in and got the trial halted on the grounds that US defense secrets would be compromised and the sick soldiers and their families were never compensated for their suffering. And from what I understand they really suffered immensely.
The US Air Force dumped & burned toxic materials that killed/gave soldiers & contractors cancer, but denied benefits or even the existence of the base for years even though you could physically walk to the gates & actually see it!
No civilian laws to cover anything
It says at the gate "stop" twice I guess they are serious.
@AsgardianTimeLordJedi
The 1994 lawsuit against the USAF and EPA for the burning pits out at Area 51 is a well-known and well-documented case.
There were many, many more people that had horrific health complications than just the 5 people in the initial suit, as well.
I don't know if any has commented on this yet, It is Sandhurst, Berkshire, in England. Amazing to listen to even my 6yr old loved listening to it too.
No the US does not have an official secrets act. You can discuss basically just about anything as long as you were not given a clearance to view it. (And yes that is what I meant)
Honestly, even if the truth was told 100% about what is there, nobody would believe it. No matter what it is.
If Simon had shown up to the group event to rush into area 51 this video wouldn't be necessary 😂😂
Plot twist: Simon and his RUclips multiverse is actually what's inside area 51
The most hilarious part, to me, about Area 51:
When the military heard the rumours of alien they embraced it hard... what better deflection to their own actions?
Yep. If your working on super secret weapons tech, and you want to deflect any credible suspicions of people who saw what you were working on: you could do worse then encouraging rumours of aliens to discredit the people casting those suspicions.
In my company we deal with the U S military all the time. The Air Force facility by Las Vegas has by far the most detailed and meticulous rules on the work we do,, just saying
My favorite hypothesis about what Kenneth Arnold saw that day is a formation of Horten Ho229 flying.
I'm definitely not the first to notice the similarities, but most think it can't be it... The question is that, searching a bit more, you find that the US military brought all of them to the US and they flight tested them. And they were pretty unstable, which could explain how Kenneth Arnold described them.
There was even video of the test flight, but without date.
@Cancer McAids Coulda been russian reproductions based on horten designs.
@@cancermcaids7688 Search for the flight test video. It's available on yt.
Arnold didn’t see disc shaped craft they were more flying wing designs shaped like a boomerang he was describing how it flew like a saucer was skipping across the water that’s how the phrase flying saucer really came about
There are people in the Air Force whose sole job it is to brief officers about conditions that could change the nature of their mission, and then the officers make decisions based on that info. I can't remember where I saw this, but I saw a photo of some poor airman having to give a brief about the threat profile of Naruto running as a tactic. Full on power point presentation and everything.
Hearing Simon trying to say the city names in my state is the best thing ever haha he was way off but can’t blame him cause they are all native and they are hard to say correct when reading them
3 months later and it appears there were aliens in Area 51 at some point after all
37:56 - Americans had a full blown meltdown over wearing a mask for a few months, if there was a national gag order like this in the US those same people would raid the capitol (again)
*technically* my uncle worked on UFOs in Area51.
By that I mean he worked with ratheon and Lockheed on a component of the f117, and technically when working on it, it was still classified, so technically it would have been a UFO.
More technically, his group weren't even told what the part was for until years (decades) later. And it was just a computer component, and he wasn't *in* area 51. It was just for a part that went there. :P
Its not a ufo. It was identified at the time of its inception.
Why design the best warning system for anyone walking to close, flying and any other way to get close to the base. Yes most likely it's only planes etc but way to much mystery. It appears to be a large ungrounded base for the amount of planes flying in on a daily basis
6:24 And *_THAT_* dear Simon, is precisely why - if aliens existed - they would abduct random, unimportant people as opposed to important, high profile ones. 😁😁
As a semi homeless person with shifty eyes I look forward to it 😂
A good anal probe never hurt anyone
It's cool that Simon was able to use his flying experience to comment on the story :) I like that stuff. Expert opinion!
Fun, weird fact: the term "flying saucer" comes from Arnold's description that their movement was like skimming a saucer across a river. Very strange imagery, and I can't find the quote itself to verify this next bit but my reading of it at the time was that he used the expression in a sort "as we all know" or something, as if it's a common thing for people to skip saucers across rivers. I've never heard of that, but if somebody else has, I would be extremely interested to hear about it!
Supposedly it was some newspaper reporter who coined the phrase flying saucer when reporting on the incident.
I'd imagine skipping saucers would be an easier version of skipping stones on water, since the saucers are properly round and flat and the most important part of skipping rocks is to find a nice flat, roundish rock to throw at the river. You throw it kinda like a mini frisbee, and if you do it right it'll bounce off the surface of the water a couple times.
I kinda want to get some cheap saucers and try to skip them now...
Roswell and Area 51 have very little to do with one another other than A51 MAYBE being the current resting place of the recovery. It is widely known the original recovery went to Wright Patterson AFB
My cousin was stationed at Area 51 and the CIA already came out and said little green men are the best cover story ever because we're looking for UFOs and not new technology
Sadly. I wouldn’t doubt it and wouldn’t doubt your not trolling
@@TheAngrySecurityGuardChannel Not trolling I'm too old and tired for that shit.
@@FallenMuse81 I feel ya but think about this too. Rachel and whatever towns around wouldn’t survive if it wasn’t for the revenue of all the tourism. Sophisticated way for them to make bank and survive.
Personally, unless it’s an all paid expense. I wouldn’t bother going there because I’ve seen base gates before. Hang around areas of any base in America and you’ll see things that are unexplained and not known to the average person.
Even fort Campbell has “UFO” sightings documented. Many other bases too.
@@FallenMuse81 matter of fact, even in Tennessee, there are sightings of UFOs.
Honestly some advanced American aircraft look like UFOs so I'm guessing that's what created so much mystery.
Actually what changed public's trust in government wasn't any of those issues, which were largely unknown to the American public. It was Watergate.
Kennedy and MLK assassinations didn't help either , regardless of how you think they were carried out. What people believe can be very important.
Washintonian here! A lot of our name are taken from native peoples of the area! It’s actually really cool imo
There is so much disinformation about Roswell there's no way to know what actually happened. Oddly Simon has it backwards- there is a great deal of evidence that showed that there was much more to the debris than sticks and tinfoil, the disinformation was trying to make the event seem less important than it was, not the other way around. For instance several large trucks were filled with pieces of the wreckage, including large pieces the size of a bomber fuselage or larger.
I had always assumed this was a test aircraft as that was what groom lake was known for.
However, in the late 1970's I became a fighter pilot, and was assigned to the F-15C. At the time the eagle was the fastest fighter in the sky, and it would remain so. The Mig 25 was technically faster but 1. It was no fighter plane, it was designed for shooting down the SR-71, Which it never came close to doing, and 2. The Mig destroyed it's engines if it went faster than the Eagle. Kind of like a Bic lighter.
I was assigned to Elmendorf AFB, Anchorage, Alaska. Russia was just a short hop away, and we frequently played cold war games with those lunatics, seeing who would blow up the world first. It was all good fun until we started seeing the... Craft.
These craft could easily out turn us, out accelerate us, they could apparently hover at 80,000 feet. They could drop from 80,000 to 10 feet off the deck in seconds, stopping so suddenly a human would have been jello. Turns that exceeded 3000 G's
They sometimes flew off into space apparently. Climbed though , 80,000 feet at mach 30 and just kept going.
Several pilots reported seeing them fly under water.
We were finally told to stop reporting them unless they did something new.
After leaving the air force I put them out of my mind.
Until I saw them on tv one night recently, and saw commander Furvor describing his encounter with them in his super hornet off the California coast while deployed on the USS NIMITZ.
That is all.
I believe you and I also believe Bob Lazar.
Didn't it happen that the Roswell wreckage was 1st taken to Wright-Patterson AFB in Dayton Ohio and kept in Hangar 18 before being sent to Area 51 later?
lol
I’m a former enlisted US Marine. I have a math degree and was a Mensa member. I served with some idiots, but the vast majority were highly intelligent. And some were definitely sharp as a Recon Marine’s K-Bar.
35:30 The U-2 spy plane wasn't designed to be primarily stealthy.
It was, however, specifically engineered to fly higher than the Soviet anti-air defense systems could reach with their missiles. It also flew much faster than the MiG interceptor planes that would attempt to catch it.
So yeah, it worked very well. It was only later, after the Soviet Union upgraded its SAM technology, that the plane was effectively engaged.
That's not what happened to Gary Powers. The Soviets first sent up a MiG, to try to intercept the U2. MiGs were not capable of matching the U2's altitude. The Soviets then tried to hit the U2 with a missile, but instead ended up hitting one of their own MiGs. So, the Soviets then hurriedly stripped-down a Sukhoi (no guns; no missiles.) The stripped-down Sukhoi was able to match Gary's speed and altitude, but had no weapons with which to "shoot down" the U2. Just the same, the Sukhoi pilot was ordered to bring down Gary's U2. So, the pilot got creative... he got in front of the U2, and created a wake of "dirty" turbulence. This caused the nose of the U2 to "nose up." Traveling at 400 mph, the long, slender wings of Gary's U2 "snapped" off. This is how Gary Powers was brought down.
We do have laws against leaking classified information or equipment especially if it coud put us or allies in danger
Sometime prior to WW2 the Soviet Union sent a high-altitude experimental plane over the United States. It made the news and was published in Life magazine, but I forgot which issue. I read about this incursion during the early Seventies. So, yes, there have been advanced aviation projects in the past.
"Co-Intel Pro" sounds like a mid-range computer you'd get on discount at Best Buys.
14:15 - Chapter 1 - The roswell incident
23:10 - Chapter 2 - The area 51 conspiracy
32:55 - Chapter 3 - The true history of area 51
43:55 - Chapter 4 - Storm area 51
45:40 - Chapter 5 - Wrap up
PS: Still waiting for the episode *Ball Lightning : The shocking truth*
1:18 Video Begins
After Ball lightning, he should do one on "Cock thunder!".
🙏🏽
Ball lightning is a real thing. We don’t know how it’s formed.
All the towns in Washington maintain their Native American names, so while people struggle to pronounce many cities and towns in Washington correctly.
*_I'm from Yakima... pronounced 'Yack a ma', it's an Indian Tribe in Washington State._*
There are frequent strange clouds that form over Mt Rainier. It is what Kenneth Arnold probably saw that fateful day. He did not describe them as saucer shaped, rather they looked like saucers skipping over water.
The clouds look like a number of saucers stacked on top of each other. Looking down from a small plane can give a distorted perspective. In 1947 private planes did not have sophisticated instruments or even Radar.
I have it from a reliable source here... namely Bigfoot says ET has never just dropped by for a howdy do y'all. Also Bigfoot avoids Groom Lake (Area 51). The armed security guards are trigger happy when it comes to hairy things not fitting in.
*_Obviously Bigfoot keeps a low profile whenever he travels..._*
Live in the PNW too. His pronunciation just killed me too. Like fingernails on a chalkboard. LOL
@@paulpski9855 Thanks for comment... easy to mispronounce names in PNW. Let's give Simone a 'pass'. How bad can he mangle 'Puyallup'...
As a native Washingtonian there is nothing funnier than folks trying to say our city names
Lol
This guy is his own video genre at this point.
Simon. Dude, I work at area 51
Have you ever noticed that different people/accounts say those immortal black adder joking words?
This is why i have to change my details and IP address regularly so any secrets I leak don't come back to me...
Oh and the black adder reference...
Please please please never stop ♥️
I wonder how hard it would be to reverse engineer advance alien tech. If we sent a cell phone or an F-35 back into 1600AD, would they be able to do anything with it?
probably not. They barely had a grasp on electricity, semiconductors would be beyond them. If you went back with one and could get it to work , or hey even without the cell network had it charged up and could show them a video, you'd probably be accused of witchcraft. Interestingly enough , a "black mirror" is an item that was said to be used for scrying and we all have one now :D
All modern inventions are built upon previous inventions or discoveries.
So, without modern smelting, moulding, fiberboard circuitry, etc, they wouldn't be able to do much.
Inspiration, maybe, like being able to form factor a flyable plane sooner.
A cellphone would just be a door stopper or paper weight. 😂
Jan. Jan is Michael Scott's boss, and you know what happened there.
I love when Simon talks about crazy conspiracy nuts and basically describes himself
US Army Veteran here. Some of the dumbest people I have ever met were Army officers.
We used to have an expression, "All that college, gone to waste."
I’m from Washington and hearing Simon mess up city names is hilarious. Yakama is pronounced YAK a ma. Also there is a training ground in yakama. I spent a lot of time there when I was stationed in Fort Lewis
The biggest secret of alll?
It is *literally* the technical specifications and capabilities of top-end warfighting equipment.
That's *it* - there is literally nothing else.
Look - I've been friends with this guy since we were dumb, students, goofing off and doing teenage sh*t instead of going to college - and by the way, we still got grades and did okay. When we were 20, he joined the Navy.
He went on to have a great career as an officer, saw incredible stuff, did pretty f888in' incredible things, got promoted and *now* holds a Very Important Post where, not to put too fine a point on it, he's kind of a key figure in military-industrial procurement and trade matters, which is the hard-tech edge of International Diplomacy.
He knows a lot of stuff way before we do. He's probably forgotten more secrets than I've ever learned about. And he's told me some interesting stuff over the years which has really opened my eyes and put things into sharper focus.
And?
Well, we get drunk occasionally. And our circle of mates all gets tanked up and starts to talk louder and more politically and a bit shoutier and less coherent and *WAAAY* less inhibited. You know the score.
And you know what hints of the Grand Secret have slipped from this Important Guy In The Know best mate from my youth way back when?
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*Precisely F--K ALL is how much*
Because there's no big secret apart from "We really don't want you to know the full performance specifications of the electronics in this aeroplane / missile that you see here and That's Why It's Classified. Now stop asking.
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Oh all right it's aliens.
Are you satisfied now?
The weather balloon was made of balsa wood, rubber, and thin foil. Yes, it works really good in space and would not burn up in the atmosphere. No, it would. It's obviously not an alien ship.
They definitely wouldn’t have been able to find any foil before the press conference and store the ship away for sure
Doesnt anyone else advertise online besides Raid, Conflict of Nations, and NordVPN?
How dare you forget Ray's Con.
Simon knows precisely what's inside Area 51....ALIENS 👽 Simon secretly talks to ghosts and searches for bigfoot on weekends.
The SR71 the U2 THE F117 B1 B2 BOMBERS all tested and housed at area 51 nothing more nothing less and weapons too
Yes. Any type of mental instability is not allowed most clearances. My father went from CT to ET after having a break which was probably due to alcoholism. I’ve seen his papers after he passed and he got called on the rug for overdraft checks. The military takes financial responsibility very seriously. Just as they do affairs.
Which is insane cause every single person I know that was in the service is divorced because of multiple affairs with substantial debt.
I don't think its a long enough story for a video, but the old story of the experimental plane pilot who wore a gorilla mask, top hat, and cigar, so that if anyone saw him they'd think they were crazy, always comes to mind with stuff like this.
I left a sweater behind in Area 51. I keep calling to reach their lost and found department but they claim it's not there.
Waldo is in charge of lost and found.
@@Moon_Metty If I can find Waldo, maybe I can get my sweater back.