And one cocaine fueled, meme pumping, "AM I RIGHT PETER" shouting, every minute there's a new tangent with a 30 minute intro to all videos channel to make us laugh in-between all the learning.
I think you're underestimating Simon here, I'm pretty sure he'll run YT by 2030 with over 20k writers and meme-ologists😂😂😂 He also needs a bigger basement, allegedly 😅
The translation, "overwhelming force, which the hikers were not able to overcome," is incorrect. The words used to describe the force in Russian are "стихийная сила," which is best translated as "force of nature," which may include weather or avalanche. This is much more reasonable as an explanation in the official report. As for injuries, the report seems to only focus on any signs of injuries that might have been inflicted in a fight. In other words, investigator was satisfied that no 3rd party was involved, and therefore, considered the matter closed. It might not sound satisfying at all, but at least the report reads like something reasonable for a criminal investigator to conclude when read in the original Russian.
I've seen multiple videos on the topic and at least one of them proposed the plausible theory that those injuries came either from falling off a tree (looking for the tent or other signs of civilization) or simply from being buried by snow. As for the avalance, something about infrasound (which would cause discomfort or even panic) and noise that seems to be an avalance without being one.
@@grilledleeks6514 the eyes were not “removed,” and several plausible explanations for the radiation have been suggested. The only mystery is why they left the tent the way they did. Everything that happened after that is easily explainable.
@@kcbarbo78 Having been winter camping before, I think they ended up cutting their way out of the tent because the normal method (whether using a zipper, tying knots to keep the flaps sealed, etc) was taking too long due to the extreme cold. Chances are that during normal use, they would have been able to open it up without causing damage, but whatever scared them meant they felt there was a greater risk of getting trapped in the tent than in suffering from damaging the tent. To me, that would indicate that they were worried about an avalanche. Perhaps only one or two people were awake at first, and they started getting dressed while trying to wake up the others. Then something happened that made them abandon their tent immediately. Given the remoteness of the region and the reports of weird glowing lights, I've always wondered if the Soviet military had been using the region to test experimental planes. If so, the sound of the airplanes may have made them worry about the possibility of the planes starting an avalance or even made them think an avalanche had started.
The hike "leader" is not like a scout leader, or the person that makes life or death decisions. It's literally just the person that's been on the trail before or has the most experience. It's the person you trust to keep you from getting lost on a mountain, they're the leader because they know where they're going. 🙂 While the group had mountain climbing experience, this trail was new and they needed a leader that had climbed it before.
They were also qualifying in something like an “outdoor education” certificate which required a designated leader. Add this to they lived in a totalitarian regime which liked enforcing such things probably through “no administration process to control you, no permission to travel”.
No, in modern times, it's the one who has the keys to the car at the foot of the mountain. I don't hike anything larger than Mt Washington. Higher and more remote, it's the one with the satellite phone. Essentially, the leader is the one with the tools to get home. I'm just the grunt with the tools to make sure we get to that go-home point.
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to be western spy’s, the deep chest depression was caused by a military vehicle with tracks slowly driving over him, most if not all were tortured before death.
I’m starting to think Simon is the one being kept prisoner and a group of writers are forcing him to read their scripts all day long. How else does someone have this many channels?
nah, we cracked the mystery a loong time ago, Blaze boi is in fact a robot bcs come on, you cant make this much content in a day, have family and all that shit and be human... sry I dont buy that at all... Simon being an android or smth rather than human is the only conspiracy theory I am willing to get behind at this point :D
Given the sheer number of writers required to keep him stocked with scripts, that basement must be crowded. Maybe Danny’s not trapped, just stuck in the bathroom line or behind a cluster of writers brainstorming ideas for Simon’s next four channels.
You have to know that the first rule of any kind of a crime is not to record it and that includes him making a video or podcast of how he locked Danny in the basement "allegedly".
I lived in Alaska for 20 years, and I have almost died from hypothermia after falling into a freezing River, and delirium from hypothermia is 100% real. I didn't know which way was up or down I just started running because I thought that's what I should be doing, I stripped off all of my clothes because I became extremely heated inside my body even though I was frozen and near death, I felt the largest panic I've ever felt in my entire life and was probably just screaming at the top of my lungs and running around like a chicken with his head cut off while stripping all my clothes off into the snow. I believe that that's what they did after they were all violently crushed and tumbled around in their tents from the avalanche that was triggered. By the way to those of you that don't believe an avalanche can literally crush humans, it doesn't even have to have a layer of ice in it to be able to do that. An avalanche of powdered snow will literally crush your body and whip you around so violently and break your ribs break your back, etc, at the same time it's dragging you along with it sometimes over several miles, over logs, ice, branches, debris of all kinds, and tons of other things that will injure you while you're in it. And a lot of the time you'll never be found. So the fact that they had injuries consistent with avalanche incidents like broken ribs and having to break out of their tents from the inside is extremely plausible in my mind, because when you get whipped around and buried by an avalanche, especially in your tent while you're sleeping or cooking dinner, there's no way you're going to find that zipper to open the little flap to get out of your tent you're just going to start clawing your way out of there no matter how you got to do it. I don't think it's that crazy to assume that some of them were wearing each other's clothing or underwears or whatever because a couple of them could have been hooking up or hanging out together if you know what I mean. Logic and science will tell us always that a body that is laying out in the middle of a wooded mountain range for weeks or months almost always gets the soft tissue of the dead body eating away by little animals in the forest like eyeballs tongue, etc. For the radiation I think your guess is probably the best guess there is. And I wouldn't rule out the sun being the cause of the burned skin on some of them. Snow is extremely reflective and the sun does come out in the day everyday, and if mostly naked body is laying out on the side of a mountain for weeks or months, the person's skin is not only getting exposed unprotected to the Sun every minute of the day, but it's also getting extra strong sun rays from the reflection off of the snow and ice which will make it a lot worse. Obviously this is just my opinion, and just like buttholes, we all have one.
It's refreshing seeing intelligent responses so far after a video has been published! I think you are entirely right, if you yourself haven't experienced freezing conditions in the north you can't know how weird it can get.. Sweden isn't the coldest of places, nor the varmest 😅
Burns on the feet are easily explainable. Those two had made a fire. In a hasty attempt to warm their feet, they got too close but due to how cold/frozen their feet were, they didn't feel their feet burning for much longer than normal. Also Simon, you don't have to be 12 or a Scout to appoint a leader on a hiking trip, especially if you're staying overnight. Depending on the size of the party, you might have reason to send multiple people to perform tasks for the group. The person with the strongest skills in that area (hunting, fishing, making camp, treating water, foraging, etc) becomes the leader for that task. I do find it funny that you had to sleep a night on the cold ground before you thought to put tree boughs down though. You'll know for the next time!
you gonna notice your body burning / turning black i feel like tho, not feel it but yea, not much of other sensible explanation. 12 year old, this guys an idiot , hiking in his backyard not mountains 70 miles deep into unknown away from civilization, with no cell phone like this guy playing in his local park with 15 different technologies lol
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I've seen enough Whistler videos to know that 1: It was definitely the Russians experimenting on their own people 2: This is where I throw in an 'allegedly' 3: I will now be poisoned with Novichok
About the burn marks: It seems likely to me that two guys with almost no clothes on and a fireplace at -14, got their frozen feet to close to the fireplace in attempt to warm their frozen feet, that they didn't feel how they were burning them ( you can sustain burns well away from flames)?
But frozen skin doesn't feel frozen. Once its already froze it starts to feel like it's on fire. And frost bite is extremely painful to defrost. I can see how they ended up undressed. But weren't these blokes Russian? They should have known the symptoms of frostbite.
It actually is quite common for people to burn themselves while trying to warm up, as they don't feel the *burn*, even if their frostbitten extremities are already feeling like they are burning. I've personally witnessed several people give themselves second degree burns (and sometimes set their clothes on fire) trying to warm up with a fire.
@ToasterWeevil Not necessarily related to the disaster - dating such burn marks in trees in the winter can be remarkably difficult unless you're going to take careful samples for detailed scientific analysis... something the recovery parties were not doing nor prepared to do. They could have been as simple as lightning effects from storms before, during, or after the incident. Or they could have been related to warming fires the survuvors tried to use before dying. Or they could have been something other than burn marks altogether - many things can cause marks that *look* like surface burn marks on trees. We have a pretty good idea that the Soviets didn't have death ray guns in the late 1950s. And a heat output that would have done that from a distance with anything less than a focused coherent beam (like say, a rocket exploding) would have flash melted, well, all the snow... including all the footprints, and caused a flash flood that would have stripped pretty.much everything off the slope that wasn't nailed down.
@@geodkyt It's so easy to get frostbite. Last winter I was working outside in - 25c. I forgot to cover my ears. I hadn't been out for very long but my ears started to burn. Living in the Canadian prairies, we were taught that it's a sign your skin is starting to freeze. I would have thought these lads and ladies would have known that but I guess if you're that far out there's not much you can do.
@@amandabeaty1492 frostbite is painful to thaw, and in my experience it was hard to gauge the temperature of the warm water I used. My feet didn't know if they were in ice water or scalding water.
Re the radioactivity mystery, back in the 70s when my parents took me camping in the UK, my mother used to stock up on gas mantles - I'm pretty sure that Russians in the 50s would have done ao too. Those mantles are a soft woven structure soaked in thorium salts. The salts glow a bright wgite when hot, and the woven structure vaporises, so the mantle becomes very friable once used- the thorium remains very radiioactive though, so anyone near a gas lamp that falls oved would have easily detectable traces of radioactive dust on thwm
Yeah, I read about this a while ago. An avalanche expert had recreated this entire thing with a simulation program, and the only thing not explained by the avalanche was the radiation. But he had then specifically looked into all their gear and found, that they were indeed using such lamps as described by 2LeftThumbs. So in my book - case closed, fully explained. Tho ofc, I had to listen to Simon discover the story anyway 😉
@@toffeefuchs THat's actually how they ended up wrapping this one up. "Ask a Mortician"' has a video on this, someone investigating the case got in touch with Pixar and asked to use thei snow engine they used for the movie Frozen to recreate possible scenarios on an avanlance.
I've heard people say the burn marks were caused by the freezing people practically sticking their bodies into a makeshift fire in a desperate attempt to warm themselves.
Depressing that such a promising group of people were lost. So many smart, capable people with promise. They would probably have done a lot for the world.
There were a couple days that brain blaze streamed old episodes for 24 hours & Simon put out videos on other channels, so I think he's technically done it already
Simon. There’s this thing called sleep. It’s like caffeine, except it works. I’d hate to lose eight hours of your delightful voice, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make when the alternative is perishing of exhaustion. (Also, subscribed. DAMN YOU.)
Having looked into this pretty thoroughly in the past, I have a few theories of what might have happened. Cutting out of the tent from the inside in varying degrees of undress and with mismatched clothing, as well as the burns are likely caused by some sort of mishap with the stove. Camp stoves from the era could be fed wood from inside the tent to remain warm and featured an exhaust chimney with a double hinged top that was supposed to vent the fumes and keep things from entering the pipe. It's likely that the storm could have obstructed or clogged this pipe, causing the tent to rapidly fill with smoke. The burns are consistent with attempts to smother the fire and in the official reports it's also mentioned that there is burning of the esophagus and lungs on some of them. They probably failed to put out the stove and hastily threw on whatever clothes they could in the confusion, then walked to the nearby tree line for the closest thing they could manage for shelter. At this point, one of them climbed a tree to get a lay of the land and fell, causing injury and leaving the blood up in the tree. The internal injuries, bruising and broken bones several of them suffered could be cause by a number of things and there is some evidence to support that they may have fallen down a somewhat steep cliff face near where the first bodies were found. The explanation for the radiation being that a couple of them worked with radiation is the most likely explanation, though a case could be made for the snow itself being irradiated by some sort of nuclear tests, also resulting in the lights in the night sky. There was a secret military base after all. I'm not particularly convinced of that and personally think the whole "lights in the sky" thing is probably a fabricated element perpetuated by UFO obsessed people to give the whole event an extra spook-factor. Whatever the case, It's likely less spectacular than people think and more of an unfortunate culmination of events than a supernatural occurrence or government conspiracy.
The severe winds blew a chunk of snow in front of the tent in the middle of the night. They panicked and cut their way out. They headed for the tree line for dry wood but realized too late there was none. Several hikers started back. The ones at the tree line climbed up for some dead branches and started a fire but the wind was too brutal and they froze. The ones going uphill got lost and froze. The remaining ones took the clothes from their dead comrades and went further downhill to dig a shelter. While digging they broke through and fell 10 feet and hit their heads on rocks. They died of concussion or hypothermia. The radiation came from lab contamination.
On radiation: gas camping lantern (think that green Coleman thing that's a tank, a glass cylinder, and a hat, if you're American) mantles -- a basket of specially-treated fine cloth mesh takes the gas flame and turns into a lightbulb filament, basically -- at the time the mesh was cotton doped with radioactive thorium nitride. I'd assume everybody had a spare set of replacement lantern mantles in their pocket, or thorium dust on their bodies from replacing said radioactive mesh when they wore out (once the cotton burns out, it's just a fragile shell of thorium oxide dust). Evacuating ahead of an avalanche, getting caught up in it and smashed against trees downslope explain the panic and the trauma injuries, hypothermia (getting numb frostbitten feet too close to the fire/undressing) are common symptoms of extreme hypothermia, and the missing soft bits by scavengers.
If anyone investigated this with more than just their thoughts they would have seen the photographs that were taken from the 30+ yo guy that was the one taking most of the photos, when the roll of film was developed.
The Dyatlov pass incident has been explained - there was an article published in the journal Nature earlier this year.. missing eyes and tongue - scavengers. Radiation - Soviet era military personnel & vehicles handling and transporting the evidence. The trauma - caused by an ice slab avalanche hitting the tent in the middle of the night. The campers had to cut their way out of the tent and flee the wind that had driven the ice slab. They headed in the direction of whatever shelter they could see with whatever clothing they managed to scavenge in their flight. Realising that the less well dressed campers were in immediate danger some of the team tried to make their way back to the tents but in the severe weather conditions they were unable to make it. Burns are the result of trying to stay too close to a fire while freezing to death...
Did you see how large the slab was supposed to be? As if from a roof top. They wouldn't run away rather to freeze to death because of that. Not in Russia. Besides, they couldn't have dug any slab. They didn't even prepare the fire properly because they were so tired. They actually woke a bear up, he roughed them up a bit and went to sleep again, because bears never feed in the winter. Case closed, difficulty level really easy.
@@kokeskokeskokes well I suggest you publish your findings in a peer-reviewed journal. You might hit some pesky questions like: "where is there any evidence of a bear attack?" You know - bite marks - claw marks - that sort of thing. Also you have failed to understand the reconstruction of events. The people were not fleeing the slab. They were trying to find shelter from the wind before they succumbed to hypothermia. But you know, apart from a complete lack of evidence and absolutely no scientific rigour - great story.
@@PhDTony_original Thank you, and you are welcome. I find the evidence in the way some group members were mauled. Duh. I am unaware of any further evidence, are you? My story therefore matches. Sorry I have no peers. Did you know that publishing in peer-reviewed papers is a paid thing? Who sane would do that, and why?
@@PhDTony_original If you are willing to push it through, I am willing to write it. But I guess I may have more pressing issues to publish if you sponsor it.
Suggested topics for Paranormal Simon: Portlock Alaska: The towns people fled en masse due to a number of unsolved murders and disappearances. The Himalayans Skeleton Lake: A lake where 800 skeletons were discovered Michigans UFO wave of 1966 Good ol' classic Skinwalker Ranch
Ask a mortician did a video on this that discussed how the frozen animation of snow allowed them to actually render a digital estimation of what happened. Most likely an avalanche.
This was solved in 2018 by actual hikers in the exact same area. It was a katabatic wind that most likely hit the area. The same thing happen to a group of Swedish hikers in 1979. Only this time they were found the next day not a week later. One of them survived but was in such bad condition and so traumatised it took 4 months for them to be able to say what had happened to the group. The Disney theory doesn’t explain even a little bit of the whole situation but it got more coverage because it’s linked to Frozen. Also it really doesn’t help that hardly anyone does up to date research on things like this. They just copy the misinformation that others have stated in things that could be several years old at this point.
Yes I just mentioned this then started scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned this. I couldn’t remember where I watched I watched it. I think I have to go watch that video again!
Remember that time Simon mentioned this incident on the Casual Criminalist, but said it was solved so it wouldn't fit on that channel? Yeah, me neither.
Well, it has been a huge WTF?, since it happened....in 1959. I think it was a military experiment that went wrong. Something to do with sound. The injuries and radiation I have no idea.✌😸
Fascinating, as always. This is a story I’ve heard over and over again, but what normally gets lost is the humanity and identity of the victims. The inclusion of the individual photos, especially when talking about the horrific injuries they suffered, really hit home. Reminded me of the true loss behind this mysterious unsolved case, especially after you shared the detail that the search party was just all of their desperate friends and relatives. That is the truly horrifying bit of this story, that is so often overlooked. Thank you.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
This damn story man. My younger brother became obsessed with this story and trying to find out what actually happened. He got involved with a group of people also obsessed with this case and finding out what happened. Everytime there was a new clue or theroy they heard about it would consume the majority of their time. It seriously became a problem for my brother. Like he lost his job (he was an orthopedic surgeon) then he and several members of the group he had joined trying to find out what happened in this case. Decided to actually go visit the location where this actually happened. As if they would somehow find something that everyone else that had already been there investigating this case wasn't able to. Spoiler alert they didn't find shit. But it was the last straw for my brothers wife and divorce followed soon after the trip. But despite the lose of his job, his wife, many of his friends and his social life. He refused to get back into the swing of his life. it was hard to see. But my family and I we're actually pretty excited that he and several other people in the group he joined planned on taking another trip to the location where this incident happened. This is because when he returned from his previous trip he was so much happier and motivated to get back into the swing of life. So we expected a similar outcome this time. But that's not what happened. When he returned home this time his behavior got worse and he seemed really depressed. He never wanted to do anything or Interact with our family. Everything just got worse and worse until he couldn't do it anymore and he committed suicide just 3 weeks after he returned home. His death broke our family. And despite all the effort, time and energy, and all of the things my brother lost. He was no closer to finding an answer to what happened to these Russian hiker's.
That is...jesus christ. Thats awful. He needed professional help, poor soul. If it wasnt this mystery it would have been another. He latched on to something to keep him going because he was in a super awful state of mind. Sorry for your loss man.
To think: all he had to do was find the original autopsy reports and find someone who KNEW RUSSIAN to read it. The force of nature, which the autopsy ACTUALLY list as death, was aka "avalanche".
Best explanation I have heard: They were camped on a slope, the snow slipped burying the tent, they tore their way out, and ran in case of more slips, grabbing whatever clothes weren't buried, the burns were from getting to close to the small fire in a desperate attempt to keep warm, and they stripped off and scrambled about the trees as the delirium of hypothermia hit, and the injuries were from the original slip, the radiation was probably fallout from the Khystym disaster, which had occurred in the region two years earlier, at the near by secret city of Chelyabinsk-40,.
OR!!! Maybe the burns occurred because the tent slipped while they were cooking. They left in a hurry to escape the smoke!!! Did I figure it out?!?! Am I a genius?!?!?! D..=!
I saw a documentary on this. Due to warm weather before the last snowfall there was a sheet of ice between snows. When they dug into the slope they destabilized the ice sheet slipped and it fell on them and crushed them in the middle of the night as the current snow made it heavier. It's as solved as it could be now.
This is possible scenario. Oven was stored, not in use bause they want spend so called cold night, those hiking trips were to receive enough credit to gain better status in hiking. They were some level 2 and gaining enough credit its possible to go level 3, like in video game! But plausible, some minor errors, bad decisions and worst luck possible this happens. They try survive after evacuating from tent but not enough cloth or equipment and bad luck with survival shelter they die.
Considering the amount of them somehow think this was caused by an avalanche in an area where it's impossible for one to occur proves that both them and you aren't sure what you are talking about......
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
“Because I’m a big grown man and I can make my own decisions” - Simon whistler “Aaahh, my office is dark and there’s monsters” - also Simon, 5 minutes after stating he’s a big grown man 😂
I’m here at the beginning, when Simon finally sold out. “I see other RUclipsrs that do some paranormal stuff, and then when the analytics tell them that’s the most popular, they morph into being more and more about the paranormal even if they don’t believe it. It’s sad.” - Paraphrasing Simon Whistler
Hahahha you'll know I've truly sold out when in two years this channel is all like: "GUYS, GHOSTS ARE REAL, LETS TALK FOR HOURS ABOUT PEOPLES ANECDOTAL GHOST EXPERIENCES" And that is the day that my capitalism went too far.
This. Just this statement is so true. It just feels that Simon is so relaxed and says things I can relate too. Just feels like a chat. **Dont forget dogmen Simon.
For anyone interested, they actually do have a hypothesis about this incident that an independent investigation by a team of outside researchers recently seemed to support (and was subsequently published in an official scientific paper) The youtuber Anton Petrov has a fascinating video unpacking the scientific paper that explains it all, and I have to say it was probably one of the most thorough and detailed studies I’ve ever seen! Without having any survivors or witnesses to interview, it seems that this discovery is the closest we will ever get to truly “knowing” what happened, but the evidence really does point to the theory this video discusses. (Not including any spoilers about the theory here in case anyone is interested and wants to watch the video for themselves) Side note: I enjoy the channel Simon! My one *very scientific* hypothesis is that one day, youtube will consist of only Simon Whistler channels and videos. (insert *one of us, one of us* chant here) edit: just finished watching this video, and one of the theories included happens to be the exact theory that gets revealed, albeit all of the seeming loopholes are covered! you definitely do your research😌
@Ryan Trott Thats what the style of this channel is. He reads a script and shows his views on it. He has a dozen other channels of different types of content.
@@BigBrainLynxAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I’d never heard that one of the hikers had taken part in nuclear cleanup and had worked at the plant. That’s the thing that kept me from believing it was an avalanche - it’s too weird for radiation to be a factor naturally. So it was nice to hear the work your script goblin went into, cause I’ve literally never heard that from any other channels covering the incident. And I’ve seen many.
One of the things that bugs me about how people talk about the dyatlov pass incident is how fixated everyone is about the radiation: Most things around you are covered in at least a trace of radiation. You, your clothes, your accessories, any jewelry, all can set off a Geiger counter. Just at low levels of the safer forms of radiation. I've never seen any accounting of this story go into the radiation bit. What levels were the radiation detected? What *kind* of radiation? Not too mention you don't need to be working in a lab to be exposed to radiation, since it can be carried by wind. So it can get to you wherever however. Only water really stops it or cancels it out.
several of them were physicists/engineers from a Soviet university DURING THE COLD WAR, one of them literally was known for working on the cleanup crew after a major nuclear incident. It's a complete non-mystery here.
@@willyolio9590 THANK YOU-my point exactly! And couple that with the fact that they were wearing each other's clothes, so even if people point out "but so and so had no reason to be near anything radioactive!" Is at least possible _maybe_ that they picked up a sweater from some one that did, or are we just going directly to "ALiEnS Did IT!!" ?
@@jturtle5318 That is a good one, actually. Also their camping lamps apparently had a mantle made from Thorium, which emits a small amount of radiation...All in All, the radiation is a complete _non_ -mystery which has been blown way out of proportion, partly due to Soviet fear of international embarrassment, incompetence and people's need for sensationalism. Sorry for the rant.
'another episode' hah! Good one, mate. I was afraid I'd have to add multiple videos to my extensive backlog of your content I've yet to watch. Grand to be here with you legends, dunking on the supernatural.
Of all the " mysterious things " I've heard about, this one is still able to make me shake my head. I know that avalanche is the most popular explanation , but I've never heard a satisfactory explanation for how an avalanche that caught them up and killed (some of) them, left their footprints and tent intact.
Exactly, not to mention that their skis were still standing in the snow, plus there was no sign of an avalanche form the rescue party, plus avalanches aren’t prone in that area and haven’t happened since, etc. etc. To keep the skis still standing next to the tent is huge, this cancels the high winds and avalanche theories. Both would have cause the skis to fall.
The USSR had partial conscription and if you were as young as 32 it is basically impossible for healthy guys like this to have not been in the military (WW2). The idea some were in the military means nothing. Non of them with a military background at this time would have been more confusing and show some shady stuff going on.
Simon, I feel like you are a friend who tells me ridiculous stories. I just love listening to you amuse yourself and expand on a script. This new show is a welcome addition to my absolute favorite, The Casual Criminalist. Looking forward to more creepy nonsense stories. Love it!
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Points which no theory till date is able to explain : 1.) Igor Dyatloy was missing an incisor in his jaw 2.) Yuri doroshenko suffered serious burns on his skull and foot. The grey liquid coming out of his mouth 3.) Yuri krivonishenko also had severe burns on his foot 4.) Lyudmila and semyon both found without eyes. The eyes of both of them were taken out. A medic on the rescue team even went far to say that they were removed with surgical precession 5.) Lyudmila is missing tissues on her face. Her lips were taken out & missing tounge 6.) Semyon was missing eyebrow tissues 7.) The element of Radioactivity 8.) Why all went in the same direction in a line. Why some of them did not went slightly right or left 9.) Tent opening from inside 10.) Time of death for every individual. And why those who survived did not do anything for finding help and instead waited for a slow death. 11.) According to another hiking group they witnessed soviet military personnel there in second week of February but rescue team only found them on 26th february.
I saw the pictures of the corpses and the missing eyes isn't really surprising. You could barely even call those 2 bodies, they were more like skeletons. So the eyes were most likely just rotted away already like most of the flesh or eaten by aninals
All the flesh that was missing was just decomposition or animal predation. As far as the waiting for slow death, hypothermia impairs brain function. You make bad decisions like staying still. This actually is also related to the burns on the feet. Extremities are the first to be affected by hypothermia (usually more exposed and also less vital so the body sacrifices them to keep the heat in the core where vital organs are). Hypothermia in its later stages causes numbness. If your feet are so frozen that you can't feel, you can get them too close to a fire trying to warm them up and end up burning them instead.
@@cheerful_crop_circleAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I doubt the radiation happened onsite. Several of them could have low levels of radiation from the Khystym disaster. For all we know that was typical of everyone who lived in their region, but the hikers just happened to be tested for radiation because of the investigation. The Soviet government probably wasn't testing ordinary people as a matter of course.
It's an avalanche. I'm guessing they were sleeping and woke up just in time to cut their way out of the tent and flee. The rescue team stated that the tracks away from the tent did not indicate urgency or panic. I suspect it's hard to run when you're in the middle of an active avalanche. The autopsy reports also indicate the hikers suffered significant impact injuries which would have slowed them considerably. It's also possible that several of them were too injured to run or even walk and were being helped by their comrades. When the avalanche subsided they were cold, disoriented, and injured. They might not have been physically capable of making it back to the tent to retrieve their clothing and gear; they also might not know where it was, or assumed it was all buried under snow or swept away. They decided to shelter in place and succumbed to their injuries and the cold within a day or two. The first hikers to die were stripped of their coats, socks etc by their fellow hikers. The hikers that had several layers were the last to perish. Animals and decomposition explain the missing eyes, and general state of the bodies. Burns are from trying to get warm. Impact of avalanche is consistent with wounds comparable to being struck by a car. The radiation is likely due their day jobs; they were all scientists or engineers. Soviet authorities didn't want to alarm the public, or admit that they had no idea what happened. So they quickly issued a vague report and closed the investigation.
Just something to add, recent research has shown that the type of avalanche they suffered was very rare, and practically unheard of even in modern day. Even these experienced hikers would never have thought that an avalanche was even possible where they set up camp. For it to happen in the middle of the night, they would have been disoriented and confused, not to mention injured, and they would have been blindly considering every explanation other than avalanche as well, in the dark.
I'm surprised any of them survived the avalanche long enough to move around. I mean, these are some TERRIBLE injuries. How'd they even dig themselves out?
While I’m all for the Soviet aliens murder theory it just strikes me as a series of unfortunate events that can all be relatively easily explained. Something (be it a large animal, avalanche etc) that we’ll never be able to confirm forced them to quickly leave camp. They then began to succumb to the elements one by one, the burns are just from the fire they found next to those two chaps. In late stage hypothermia it kills the nerves in your extremities as the soft tissue begins to die meaning they won’t have felt their flesh burning in their attempts to warm up. Falls, post mortem animal feeding and natural decomposition explain the rest. But people love a good mystery so fuck it, I’m throwing my lot in with those pesky aliens.
@@aceundead4750 I thought at the beginning it said that one of them was literally a student working in a lab dealing with radiation or whatever. No surprise at all to me that there would be trace amounts staying on their clothes.
@@QuantumBoogaloo didnt have to go back. He restated that one dude worked at one of the cleanup sites, and then also trekked around a radioactive area with another of the hikers, something no other source iv ever found had stated.
Avalanche? katabatic winds? If that occurred, how were there skis and tent posts that weren’t even knocked over? You can see in the picture that there are upright skis just stuck in the snow, by the tent. Now there is no way that a force equal to a car crash that could smash somebody’s rib cage would not knock over a ski. Let’s think people 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yes. Anything with any significant force would have knocked the skis over and put out the campfire. Also, there is no explanation for the radiation, why some climbed trees, why some who survived opted not to return to the tents and why some burned/froze by the fire. Not because of anything that made them cut their way out of the tent and yet failed to knock it over.
My money's on the avalanche hypothesis. It makes the most sense, apart from the radiation, which can be explained by their studies and work in the Cold War Soviet energy and engineering sector. (and let's be honest lol Soviet Russia and Radioactivity kinda go hand in hand, don't they?!) It explains their mismatched clothing, their not all succumbing to hypothermia and death all at the same times, their internal injuries, and the evidence of them cutting their way out of their tent seemingly in a massive hurry. Their missing eyes and tongues can easily be explained by scavengers, most likely birds, some of which, like crows and ravens, not to mention Vultures, Hawks, Eagles and other predatory species like Owls, which are largely opportunistic animals anyway. A bunch of crows pecking around a frozen carcass isn't exactly a rare occurrence, if you've ever seen roadkill. The rest of their bodies being too frozen solid for any significant scavenging to have been available. Leaving their remains in the valley below, with various blunt force and post mortem type injuries, in fact, accounting pretty much precisely for how they were eventually discovered. The ones surviving the longest suffering increasing amounts of disorientation until their eventual deaths due to exposure, not being able to find their way back to camp after being crushed, tumbled and thrown down the valley because of heavy snowfall that night. Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced, the avalanche hypothesis definitely makes the most sense. ✌
Lol Simon and the supernatural 😂 this should be ... AMAZING Haha. Also that's what 12 channels or something now? 🤔 dose anyone know if Simon qualifies as having the most active channel yet?
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I really love this kind of format, doing the paranormal related stuff. I recommend doing a video on the Hinterkeifek Murders and maybe the Annelise Michel case. They’d be amazing topics for this kind of channel
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Burned feet - they left without their snow boots, the ones with burned feet had made a fire. They tried to stop frostbite and that's how they burned their feet Missing eyes and tongue - the autopsies did not say the tongue or eyes were lost during trauma. They are external soft tissue, they are not unlikely to be the first things to rot or to he taken by rodents as they present the least resistance, this is not uncommon. They were likely lost from decomposition. I mean one of their hands and feet was already decomposing away, why wouldn't the eyes and tongue be decomposed Major injuries - yall ruled out the animal attack, and only mentioned wolverines - this is stupid. Bears can do that type of damage easily, "hit with the force of a car." Or with the force of a very hungry angry bear. Or an avalanche could have done all of that. Radiation - three of them worked around radiation, two of them regularly. Also Simon says there were very high amounts of radiation - amounts were not all that high - definitely high enough that it wasn't an anomalous amount, but not very high as he said.
All sorted, minus the bear. Why would a bear take on *9* people? (It wouldn't.) I just started, but the reason... It was an avalanche. 👉Ask A Mortician! She did a fantastic job. As ever. Simon, let's see what ya got! ;) ...JK! He's lovely.
I’ve been watching your videos (and recommending them to others) o Geographics for at least 6 months now. I was so happy to have RUclips recommendations pop up with you on this channel and another! I’ve just subbed to both as well. You are my favorite storyteller Simon!
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
The wind one makes a lot of sense, when hearing that wind coming it freaked them out as they presumed an avalanche was coming this is why they cut from the inside and jumped out, in the rush not taking clothes and burning themselves on the stove by accident. Then after it had subsided, it was only a bit of snowfall compared to an avalanche however the tent was submerged and due to this they couldn't find it leading to some looking for it, others making a make shift shelter, some falling into the ravine etc. All dying in smaller groups as they were trying to get a new shelter sorted out quickly but not dressed correctly.
@@barbaralanders6049Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
(Russian here, living not too far from the area) To clarify some of the points you mentioned: 1. RADIATION. So annoying. 2 of the hikers were senior students of a radio engineering faculty, which, back in the day, included lab work with some radioactive substances. Another hiker worked at a Scientific Research Institute and worked to contain damage after the Radioactive Kyshtym catastrophe, which was, again, in the same state as they lived and hiked. Radiation levels and types on only three items of clothing were identified and pronounced at a natural level not dangerous to humans. They probably tested for radiation because the few states in the region were known to have radioactive spots. 2. Leader of the group. One thing people outside of Soviet Union don't realize, is how boyscout-like the Pioneer and Communist movements here were. The hiking was an officially organized tour by a city's sport club, and it was a very common thing all over the country, which is why the search in such a remote and wild area was organized relatively quickly. The official name of the incident is 'Death of Dyatlov's touristic group'. 3. In the report in Russian, it actually says that the deaths were caused by a force of nature - the weather was terrible, and the area they were walking through is known for avalanches, hurricanes, etc. Also, a very remote area with limited resources - including good medics. It's not like autopsy was done in Moscow, where docs are used to weird things, you know. 4. Again, Russian reports say that there were no injuries while they were alive. The official cause of death is hypothermia. 5. They died approximately on the 1-2 of February, the first bodies were found on the 25-27 of February, the rest were found in MAY, in a well-made snow cavern, 2.5 meters under the snow. They were found with the clothes that were cut off from the bodies that were found earlier, and were obviously trying to keep warm. 6. The lights were proven to be from the rocket launch testing sight, but it was really far away. 7. The 'KGB guy' was actually was supposed to go with a different hiking group from the same sports club, but changed to Dyatlov's as it was shorter. Aaand the rest is a mystery. We don't know why they suddenly left the camp without any supplies and went down the slope all together half-clothed. However, the tracks show that one person exited first, and then we have the rest - all 8 - walking slowly down the slope, some without shoes.
The area was hit by Katabatic winds. The violence and sound these localised extreme weather phenomena would have had would have been enough to make them leave their tent.
@@piperjaycieAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
The struck by lightning theory could definitely have caused some of the injuries. My Stepdad got struck by lighting and it cause him to seize hard enough to break his leg. More likely than not it was a culmination of things, all of which we’ll never know, that caused their deaths. Some of them most likely did die of hypothermia and exposure. The eyes and tongues missing was most likely caused by animal savaging not an attack. As for the autopsy stating cause of death as “an overwhelming force” that’s not conspiracy, that’s them saying “🤷♀️ yeah sorry, idk what killed them”. Which honestly makes sense. If you have a body with lots of blunt force trauma but also signs of hypothermia the question for the person conducting the autopsy is only how did this person die and with all the injuries it was probably impossible to determine if it was the injuries or the cold that ultimately killed them.
Here is my theory. It was an avalanche, but they were also partying hard at the time. Most likely with drugs and group sex being involved. Then when the government found the scene, they covered up what they perceived as deviant and behaviour unbefitting of educated students of the soviet union. The lights were most likely military flares or aircraft from the nearby base. Irrelevant. The radiation was from a previous exposure, as posited, and they only detected it as they were using dosimeters to locate the bodies using trace background radiation. Everything else fits into place, the rotting eyes and tongues, scavaging clothes of the dead, the injuries from the avalanche etc.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Well, I can at last shed light on this, I'm no longer legally bound by the galactic gagging order. My mothership dropped off my pod/egg that night, but the idiots fumbled it and I ended up in the dammed Urals, which are freakin' cold. Because of the low temperature, it took longer for me to develop so I didn't emerge for over 10 years. Have since relocated to a more temperate climate. But that explains the lights in the sky. Sorry about the confusion, just a bit of a coincidence. I'm now waiting for the mothership to pick me up so I can go home and escape this ball of rock. What was supposed to be an anthropological project turned into 50+ earth years in a lunatic asylum.
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I'm only halfway through, but... Radioactive clothing could simply be from previous work, I assume? The injuries may seem to be severe, but could easily be from a blunt object (trained humans are capable of punching that hard, a bat of some sort is pretty reasonable). Oricifice flesh removal is typical of animals, especially those in a hurry. This is an attack... One with no motivation, and one with likely more than one assailant possibly.. But it is definitely an attack, right? Who from? No idea. Maybe a group member, maybe not. It has no motive, so I would assume possibly an insane group member... Most likely one found dead far from the rest of the group.. One with few injuries.
I live in Canada. Now... Long story short... lucky for me the "it's so hot was kicking in literally as I was approaching the door of the cabin. Wild experience. Do not suggest. 1 star.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Simon should advertise to schools, using RUclips statistics as validation for "retaining attention of students". Teachers could create playlists for the students, and have that be the equivalence of homework. Some of Simon's episodes might need to be cut for content, as some may find his personal takes on subjects too lax. But personally I find it as part of the hook!
@@domtanko7160 like, dislike... it's all preference & opinion. I'd prefer to be back in school, but it probably isn't possible for me to... so I've adapted and look for "learning" in different ways. Lol
Always find self not only watching new content-but also rewatching previously viewed content-on mysteries/potential mysteries like Norma Jean; Jack the Ripper; Roanoke; Dyatlov; etc. 2nd time round & after reading some comments, i felt compelled to add Mysteries are mysteries for a reason. Cuz while there are some theories that seem more plausible/likely than others, even the best have holes or contradicting evidence. Avalanche seems rather popular today, yet under slightest scrutiny, it falls apart. So the avalanche was big enough to crack skulls & cause injuries on par with a car crash(yes avalanche could do that but for one that size, there would be clear evidence way of debris, they prob ain't all walking away single file after). Instead they would've been swept away, along with tent & supplies. And a torch that was lit wouldn't have been place on tent to help hikers relocate the tent. I'll buy a paranoid escape outta fear of 1, but not an avalanche itself. Would still leaves questions to some of the injuries. Katabatic winds also not a bad theory but again, doesn't explain it all. Military can't be ruled out & parachute mines experimenting intriguing as well or military tests like that. Don't think military just went there & killed em tho. Absolutely no evidence to suggest that at all. No other tracks aside from the hikers(not foot, ski nor vehicular). Could even be a perfect storm of a hodge podge small events taken from a few dif theories that have been proposed ova the yrs. But as for avalanche, tho it seems on its face like most likely, I think it's actually ONE of the least likely. Again, fear of 1 maybe, but even then, theres still the extreme internal(stress internal)left to explain. Maybe y'all think yeah some1 fell from tree, and other people fell into a huge ravine & that got covered by snow. Be a whole lotta falling going round that nite. Hence why it's such a mystery. Theres some evidence to support quite a few theories but plenty of evidence as well that makes someone unbiased question em at same time & conclude that it wouldn't explain entire scene. Let's all be serious tho, the infrasound explanation & local tribe theories prob even worse than avalanche absolutists theory. At least the avalanche absolutists have small bits of evidence that could be twisted to fit theory. Odds are much higher that a bear, Yeti, aliens or a Russian Freddy Krueger was at fault rather than infrasound. And bookmakers have Freddy Krueger at + $1,000,000,000,000. Smart money is on the perfect storm of panic, bad luck, mishaps, miscalculations, and just a confluence of dif things happening. But it's bordering on asinine to rule to ASSume that everything is easily explainable...let alone that this case is solved
The leader thing might be a product of Russian Society, which is very, very hierarchical and uncertainty avoidance (check out Hofstede's Six Dimensions of Culture for more information). That could be a reason why they had a leader.
Should do the Korovina Group. Theres a survivor that saw/explains what happened and yet its still a mystery Curious if you can find anything else on it
@@amandam8609Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I definitely think this was a case of multiple things happening that brought about the weird conditions the bodies were found in. I think there was a good chance there was some sort of avalanch, and they hurried out of the tent as quickly as possible, regardless of how much they were wearing at the time. I think in their haste to get out, they were split up, some heading towards the tree, others wound up near that cave/shelter thing. Any footprints they did leave in their escape from an avalanch would've probably been covered over. I reckon once the snow had stopped falling down the mountain, they tried to get back to the tent/one another. Those by the tree probably tried to light a fire. The burns could be explained by that. They got too close to it. The state of undress too, is definitely a hypothermia side effect (though I hadn't heard that about them taking clothes off their dead friends to try and keep warm before, that's sad but also would make sense). I once heard a retelling of this about the photographs of the orderly footprints but I think that's easily explainable. I reckon visibility would've been really bad after a sudden avalanch, and whoever had the camera was using the flash to light up the ground so they could potentially see either previous footprints so they could follow, or else to simply show a path for their friends to go along. Also the flash would've helped to try to signal to the others that might've gotten split up from them. It's truly a sad mystery, and with how the USSR was, even the most innocuous thing was hushed up and made to seem creepier than it really was, so unfortunately we will never know. I personally just think it was a tragic accident.
So the channel Ask a Mortician did a video about this a few months ago, and some computer modelling as shown most likely it was an avalanche. I definitely recommend it, it really demystifies the whole thing
@@katerrinah5442 Except it wasn't an avalanche. The avalanche theory suggests that the horrific injuries four of the group members sustained was because of an avalanche hitting the tent. Injuries like crushed skulls, ribs and lungs, severe internal bleeding with probable death within 20 minutes, according to the official autopsy reports. The avalanche theory ignores the evidence that 1. No one had been dragged down the mountain and no blood trails (with these injuries you won't get up, you cough blood and slowly bleed to death), 2. The four had had time to collect clothes from their two dead comrades who had died of hypothermia next to the fire at the treeline, and had also managed to dig a snow shelter further down, 3. The four were found furthest from the tent, in a ravine next to said snow shelter, and that falling into that ravine in the pitch black explains all their injuries by itself. Yes, even the missing tongue and eyeballs. If you fall from a height and hit a rock head-first, it is likely that you bite off your tongue and your eyes will pop out.
This case and the Elisa Lam case are my biggest peeves. Covering these can be a quick way to lose all my respect for an 'unsolved mystery' or 'facts' channel. You guys always do a great job, though. I mean, Simon figured out the radiation on his own. This is why I love you guys.
"I've never heard a plausible explanation for the radiation." Goes on to point out that two of them were studying radioactivity at school and one of them had cleaned up a large radioactive site lol also he kept saying high levels of radiation but it was not that high. Detectable, well over an anomalous amount over background, but definitely not very high as simon kept saying
Burned feet - they left without their snow boots, the ones with burned feet had made a fire. They tried to stop frostbite and that's how they burned their feet Missing eyes and tongue - the autopsies did not say the tongue or eyes were lost during trauma. They are external soft tissue, they are not unlikely to be the first things to rot or to he taken by rodents as they present the least resistance, this is not uncommon. They were likely lost from decomposition. I mean one of their hands and feet was already decomposing away, why wouldn't the eyes and tongue be decomposed Major injuries - yall ruled out the animal attack, and only mentioned wolverines - this is stupid. Bears can do that type of damage easily, "hit with the force of a car." Or with the force of a very hungry angry bear. Or an avalanche could have done all of that. Radiation - three of them worked around radiation, two of them regularly. Also Simon says there were very high amounts of radiation - amounts were not all that high - definitely high enough that it wasn't an anomalous amount, but not very high as he said.
@@nickdaveNDM the animal attack does not make much sense as their bodies would’ve all had more signs such as claw marks or more tissue missing than just eyes and tongues. It makes for more sense that the group woke up in the middle of the night hearing an odd noise. Thinking it might be a sign of an impending avalanche they quickly, but calmly left their tent (after quickly piling some snow on top to keep it rooted in place) in an attempt to evacuate. However the noise they heard was oncoming high winds. The group was stuck by these winds and was thrown/dragged while the wind whipped around. Scattering the hikers and tossing them around. Once the winds subsidize the dazed and seriously injured members of the group tried to survive the best they could. Unfortunately in their weakened condition none of them had the strength to last long, and died shortly after the incident.
@@nickdaveNDMAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
@@horrorfan117Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
This is my all time favourite mystery. I don't think the causes of death are particularly strange, they were all out in like -30 degrees weather in basically pyjamas and socks, no one would last very long like that. And the last 3 to be found, next to the stream, who had the severe crush injuries, probably dug a snow shelter which then collapsed onto them. What is confusing is what drove these experienced hikers out of their tent and into basically certain death. I just can't understand the avalanche theory. Surely if there was a powerful enough avalanche to scare them so much they cut their way out rather than open the door and don't even grab snow boots then the tent would have been damaged or collapsed, items inside would be pushed around and disarranged, and the tent would be a least partially covered in snow. Especially if there was a slab avalanche as the prevailing current theory suggests. Also it seems highly unlikely that the hikers would exit the tent and then walk 1 - 2 km (1.5ish miles) away from their tent and ALL their equipment unless there was serious immediate danger, you'd think they would try to stay as close as possible so as to be able to retrieve their gear asap. These were very experienced hikers, they would know their time was extremely limited without proper clothing. But if there was that much danger from avalanche surely there would be some sort of evidence, such as the tent? If anyone can explain how this avalanche theory accounts for this that would be great. Because I'm tired of seeing videos claiming the mystery has been solved. (Obviously not this one, this one was great.)
Wonder if it might of been drugs. Groups of people on the same drugs can sometimes come up with paranoid fears that feed into eachother until the whole group is hysteric.
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to by western spy’s, the deep chest depression was the result of a military vehicle with tracks slow crushing him. Most if not all were tortured before death.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
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@@ste03Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Isn't there also those low-frequency noise winds within that pass? I've heard the noises created by these winds can be out of our spectrum of hearing, but can still stimulate the brains biopsychology, causing feelings of extreme fear, panic, and even psychosis
-14°f isn't cold to people who live in that area (or in alaska). We had a fire drill in gym class once and had to go outside in shorts and t-shirts in -20°f and we were just fine as long as we were in the sun. Weird, i know, but you just get used to the cold.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Simon is clearly pretty honest about never knowing as to what order his videos/podcasts are going to be uploaded in lol He couldn't even know this was going to be the first.
I've been familiar with the biggest or bigger parts of this story for a while but that there were so many months that passed before they were found, is something I had to be reminded of with this video
What I think most likely happened: Cause - winds, avalanche or fear of incoming avalanche (due to noise, winds) made them run. They cut the tent as it used buttons back then, not easy to quickly get out, especially in cold conditions, your fingers are much less responsive. In their panic/sleepiness they thought they couldn't save anything and rather than wasting time to try, possibly being caught in the avalanche or dying of exposure, they went towards the forest below to get shelter and start a fire. They might have underestimated how close to it they were (or had no choice). What happened to the first 2 dead - They reached the cedar tree. They climbed up to find dry branches for the fire, getting bruises, scrapes, maybe even a light fall. They made a fire but realised it was not nearly enough given the cold and light clothes. At this point the group might have split up either due to differing opinions on what to do or delegating tasks. 3 decided to go back to the tent to get supplies, 4 went to build a shelter (sort of cut-out) to protect from the wind. It's clear the 2 dead near the fire died first. It's possible they were what caused the group to move, or maybe they were left there as they had no strength to go help / didn't want to leave the fire. Their burns are... from the fire. Desperate to get warm, they got too close, and/or got burned falling closeby after dying. The others then took their clothes in an attempt to increase their odds (so those 2 most likely died first). The 3 on the way back to the tent -- tried to get back for supplies, perhaps they were the strongest so thought they could make it, or just decided it's better odds than the shelter. Can't imagine what it would have been like potentially seeing your friend just collapsing and knowing you're at the end of your strength too. Last 4 in the shelter -- managed to find/create the shelter, but snow either fell on them from above (causing the injuries) or they fell a few metres into a ravine (possibly then also being crushed by snow). Their missing soft tissue/tongue/eyes are explained by scavengers and a close-by stream. The radiation is explained by their professions (either working at a nuclear plant, helping with fallout after a disaster) Other small injuries can be explained by debris from winds, small falls or slips, even a fight over disagreement on what to do or after blaming someone of the group that got scared and was the one that started the panic that got them all to abandon the tent. The man with the bitten knuckle probably did it in a desperate attempt to try and stay awake, knowing sleep means death. Tragic, but no need for anything supernatural. Perhaps we'll never know the exact details as to which event caused the panic, what they were thinking, why they split up, but that doesn't change the sad end-result. They struggled to survive, but either a series of mistakes/terrible luck caused their demise.
Greeeat comment,you do not need to assume this happened,this did happen Everything points towards your sensible conclusions(avalanche ). I cannot believe people have dragged this one out for over60 years.P.D.W.
An avalanche smooshed the tent, and the nine fumbled around in the freezing dark, getting separated, and perished due to hypothermia. Everything else is hyperbole. No one lived longer than daybreak. Sad. End of mystery.
1:40 The answer to this 'mystery' is plain - Several sets of those ears would be a problem in a light breeze. Up in the winds of the Dyatlov pass it's no wonder they all got based about a bit. Oh, and taking Inspector Clouseau along with you as just asking for trouble. What? Too soon..?
I've had hypothermia, sort of. I went on a bike ride and forgot my gloves. The wind chill cooled my hands so much that they felt like I had submerged them into boiling water. One of the Top 5 most painful moments in my entire life.
I once almost lost my dick jogging in shorts. I didn't feel him at all, and it wasn't a fun situation. Fingers must be even worse, fearing that no more guitar ever again.
@@cotati76 I got an adrenalin shot in my thigh at the hospital once. (Had treatment, did something dumb.) It felt like having a stove plate pressed against your leg for about 6 hours. I had a poo once and I guess my bowls twisted or something because I got a growing and intensifying pulsating pain that spread out all over my lower back and left me hyperventilating on the floor for about 20 minutes before it subsided. My hands also started to cramp together like a pair of crumpled paper balls. Had a VERY bad case of the flue another time. Just came flushing out both ends plus my nose. After the fluids ran out, the cramps started. Vomiting caused abdominal cramps that forced me to fold in half while my backs pain receptors flared up like it was being whipped with fire. The worst migraine I have ever had. Three full days of such brain pain that it affected my vision and completely destroyed any perception of linear time. Colours kinda blended together and separated all at the same time, like an over- and multi-exposed photograph. One minute it was daytime, the next it was in the middle of the night, late afternoon, night, early morning, late afternoon, midnight, late evening, early evening, It seemed like months passed.
@@AdjuniAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Personally, I lean a little toward the theory that the campers were accidentally killed by a weapons test, and the event was subsequently covered up to avoid bad publicity. This would explain the incredibly vague report after the discovery, the unexplained injuries, and the camper's determination to leave the tent as quickly as possible.
My guess when this comes up is either avalanche or that the stove was not properly sealed and they suffered from carbon dioxide/monoxide (forget which one it is when people die from running a BBQ inside) poisoning. In a stupor one of them noticed but was too groggy to open the zipper so they cut it open. They pulled on what they could in the cold: From then on it was all a slow groggy march to where they died.
35:02 that's complete bs. He didn't have a shadowy past and unexplained tattoos, he had a very well-established past as a combat engineer during World War 2 and the tattoos were either part of his service or common benign tattoos. Among them he had the 5 pointed star of the Red Army, the name Guena, his birthday, and a Г+С+П=Д tattoo that wass common among Red Army veterans which had served together for extended periods of time.
Where's the credit to Frozen's snow and ice physics engine being harnessed and backing up the Slab Avalanche theory + the ensuing blunt force bodily injuries? Also surprised there was no mention of thorium being used in lanterns or other gear at the time. Still enjoyed the video, there is indeed too much about this incident to incude everything. Glad paradoxical undressing and accidentally burning themselves as they tried desperately to kee warm with the fire were both included. I also stilll have horror and sadness fr the hikers, what a frightening and sad way to go. Aradpxicall undressing
I prefer camping in the winter just so I don't have to worry about ticks, and/or mosquitos. A good sleeping bag, a well stoked fire, and a fine bottle of bourbon can make a cold night in the forest as cozy as any you'd spend at home.
I will predict that by the year 2030, Simon will have over 700 different educational podcasts running simultaneously.
If Simon ever did NFTs for all this shows, he would break the cryto world 😂
And one cocaine fueled, meme pumping, "AM I RIGHT PETER" shouting, every minute there's a new tangent with a 30 minute intro to all videos channel to make us laugh in-between all the learning.
Adds up.
Seems low
I think you're underestimating Simon here, I'm pretty sure he'll run YT by 2030 with over 20k writers and meme-ologists😂😂😂
He also needs a bigger basement, allegedly 😅
Simon: *uploads first video”
“Welcome to another episode of”
Admit it, you wanted to say casual criminalist.
I was waiting for Callum or Danny, but I'm sure Katy will be fantastic.
Yep!! I was waiting for it! 😅😅😅
Classic.
Alas, too late to the party for pointing out the Freudian slip
I checked the channels video uploads several times just in case I'd missed a video or 2 but no it was just the Fact boy getting confused
The translation, "overwhelming force, which the hikers were not able to overcome," is incorrect. The words used to describe the force in Russian are "стихийная сила," which is best translated as "force of nature," which may include weather or avalanche. This is much more reasonable as an explanation in the official report. As for injuries, the report seems to only focus on any signs of injuries that might have been inflicted in a fight. In other words, investigator was satisfied that no 3rd party was involved, and therefore, considered the matter closed. It might not sound satisfying at all, but at least the report reads like something reasonable for a criminal investigator to conclude when read in the original Russian.
I've seen multiple videos on the topic and at least one of them proposed the plausible theory that those injuries came either from falling off a tree (looking for the tent or other signs of civilization) or simply from being buried by snow.
As for the avalance, something about infrasound (which would cause discomfort or even panic) and noise that seems to be an avalance without being one.
how is an avalanch a more reasonable explanation for radiation and cut out eyes and tongues? Its not. I answered it for you.
@@HappyBeezerStudios falling from a tree can not remove your eyes and tongue.
@@grilledleeks6514 the eyes were not “removed,” and several plausible explanations for the radiation have been suggested. The only mystery is why they left the tent the way they did. Everything that happened after that is easily explainable.
@@kcbarbo78 Having been winter camping before, I think they ended up cutting their way out of the tent because the normal method (whether using a zipper, tying knots to keep the flaps sealed, etc) was taking too long due to the extreme cold. Chances are that during normal use, they would have been able to open it up without causing damage, but whatever scared them meant they felt there was a greater risk of getting trapped in the tent than in suffering from damaging the tent.
To me, that would indicate that they were worried about an avalanche. Perhaps only one or two people were awake at first, and they started getting dressed while trying to wake up the others. Then something happened that made them abandon their tent immediately.
Given the remoteness of the region and the reports of weird glowing lights, I've always wondered if the Soviet military had been using the region to test experimental planes. If so, the sound of the airplanes may have made them worry about the possibility of the planes starting an avalance or even made them think an avalanche had started.
The hike "leader" is not like a scout leader, or the person that makes life or death decisions. It's literally just the person that's been on the trail before or has the most experience. It's the person you trust to keep you from getting lost on a mountain, they're the leader because they know where they're going. 🙂 While the group had mountain climbing experience, this trail was new and they needed a leader that had climbed it before.
They were also qualifying in something like an “outdoor education” certificate which required a designated leader. Add this to they lived in a totalitarian regime which liked enforcing such things probably through “no administration process to control you, no permission to travel”.
No, in modern times, it's the one who has the keys to the car at the foot of the mountain. I don't hike anything larger than Mt Washington. Higher and more remote, it's the one with the satellite phone. Essentially, the leader is the one with the tools to get home. I'm just the grunt with the tools to make sure we get to that go-home point.
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to be western spy’s, the deep chest depression was caused by a military vehicle with tracks slowly driving over him, most if not all were tortured before death.
Me and my friend who hike have equal knowledge while vast.. we talk about decisions equally on the trail
@@JohnJones-rc7se ROUGE ELEMENTS OF THE SOVIET MILITARY, END OF STORY !
I’m starting to think Simon is the one being kept prisoner and a group of writers are forcing him to read their scripts all day long. How else does someone have this many channels?
He narrates books on audible too. Simon is working that lovely voice. I am glad for it.
@@DeborahLongtin What!? I had no idea. Thanks for mentioning that. Audible, here I come! 🏃♀️
Replicants. Allegedly.
nah, we cracked the mystery a loong time ago, Blaze boi is in fact a robot bcs come on, you cant make this much content in a day, have family and all that shit and be human... sry I dont buy that at all... Simon being an android or smth rather than human is the only conspiracy theory I am willing to get behind at this point :D
Yes, a Britney Spears type situation. 🤣
"Welcome to another episode of"
*Is the first episode of this channel
Thank you Simon 😅
I, an idiot, double checked to make sure I didn't miss the earlier episode :P
Hahah. That’s what I thought too
@@evillttlimp I think we all did. Don't want to miss out on any fact boy content.
Classic fact boy
@@evillttlimp We all checked. 🤣
Next episode should be “how did Simon trap Danny in the basement?”
Given the sheer number of writers required to keep him stocked with scripts, that basement must be crowded. Maybe Danny’s not trapped, just stuck in the bathroom line or behind a cluster of writers brainstorming ideas for Simon’s next four channels.
Ghosts. I lured him there with ghosts.
@@decodingtheunknown2373 instructions aren't clear enough, please elaborate, i want a Danny too
You have to know that the first rule of any kind of a crime is not to record it and that includes him making a video or podcast of how he locked Danny in the basement "allegedly".
What if Simon is the one in the basement? Controlled by Danny and his legion of writers, forcing Simon to make RUclips channels??
I lived in Alaska for 20 years, and I have almost died from hypothermia after falling into a freezing River, and delirium from hypothermia is 100% real. I didn't know which way was up or down I just started running because I thought that's what I should be doing, I stripped off all of my clothes because I became extremely heated inside my body even though I was frozen and near death, I felt the largest panic I've ever felt in my entire life and was probably just screaming at the top of my lungs and running around like a chicken with his head cut off while stripping all my clothes off into the snow.
I believe that that's what they did after they were all violently crushed and tumbled around in their tents from the avalanche that was triggered.
By the way to those of you that don't believe an avalanche can literally crush humans, it doesn't even have to have a layer of ice in it to be able to do that. An avalanche of powdered snow will literally crush your body and whip you around so violently and break your ribs break your back, etc, at the same time it's dragging you along with it sometimes over several miles, over logs, ice, branches, debris of all kinds, and tons of other things that will injure you while you're in it. And a lot of the time you'll never be found. So the fact that they had injuries consistent with avalanche incidents like broken ribs and having to break out of their tents from the inside is extremely plausible in my mind, because when you get whipped around and buried by an avalanche, especially in your tent while you're sleeping or cooking dinner, there's no way you're going to find that zipper to open the little flap to get out of your tent you're just going to start clawing your way out of there no matter how you got to do it.
I don't think it's that crazy to assume that some of them were wearing each other's clothing or underwears or whatever because a couple of them could have been hooking up or hanging out together if you know what I mean.
Logic and science will tell us always that a body that is laying out in the middle of a wooded mountain range for weeks or months almost always gets the soft tissue of the dead body eating away by little animals in the forest like eyeballs tongue, etc.
For the radiation I think your guess is probably the best guess there is. And I wouldn't rule out the sun being the cause of the burned skin on some of them. Snow is extremely reflective and the sun does come out in the day everyday, and if mostly naked body is laying out on the side of a mountain for weeks or months, the person's skin is not only getting exposed unprotected to the Sun every minute of the day, but it's also getting extra strong sun rays from the reflection off of the snow and ice which will make it a lot worse.
Obviously this is just my opinion, and just like buttholes, we all have one.
It's refreshing seeing intelligent responses so far after a video has been published! I think you are entirely right, if you yourself haven't experienced freezing conditions in the north you can't know how weird it can get.. Sweden isn't the coldest of places, nor the varmest 😅
Not everyone has such a coherent butthole. Be proud.
I agree. I lived in Alaska too but too young to have experiences. An avalanche definitely seems the most plausible.
I love this about 90% for the butthole quip
I like your explanation, Savanna. Also the woman being found under 13ft(4m) of snow sounds unbelievable
Burns on the feet are easily explainable. Those two had made a fire. In a hasty attempt to warm their feet, they got too close but due to how cold/frozen their feet were, they didn't feel their feet burning for much longer than normal. Also Simon, you don't have to be 12 or a Scout to appoint a leader on a hiking trip, especially if you're staying overnight. Depending on the size of the party, you might have reason to send multiple people to perform tasks for the group. The person with the strongest skills in that area (hunting, fishing, making camp, treating water, foraging, etc) becomes the leader for that task. I do find it funny that you had to sleep a night on the cold ground before you thought to put tree boughs down though. You'll know for the next time!
you gonna notice your body burning / turning black i feel like tho, not feel it but yea, not much of other sensible explanation. 12 year old, this guys an idiot , hiking in his backyard not mountains 70 miles deep into unknown away from civilization, with no cell phone like this guy playing in his local park with 15 different technologies lol
Also ice burns are a thing. Like if they were running barefoot through the snow.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I've seen enough Whistler videos to know that
1: It was definitely the Russians experimenting on their own people
2: This is where I throw in an 'allegedly'
3: I will now be poisoned with Novichok
lsd
Just start using a vpn, in a couple weeks one'll probably sponsor this channel
You will end up his first video on Simon's 234th channel.
I’m still suspicious of the *ONE* “who got away” *_before_* the sh!t hit the fan… 🧐
Technically it was kinda solved already
The avalanche can have caused all those injuries based on what we know now
"If you're new..."
I think that's really the only option, isn't it?
Maybe to the universe of channels floating around him? I don't know, but I definitely had to make sure it wasn't the only episode so far. Lol.
Dammit
@@decodingtheunknown2373
I'm only subscribed to all your channels so I'm not exactly new. But new to this one.
Glad it wasn’t only me!
Comment!
About the burn marks:
It seems likely to me that two guys with almost no clothes on and a fireplace at -14, got their frozen feet to close to the fireplace in attempt to warm their frozen feet, that they didn't feel how they were burning them ( you can sustain burns well away from flames)?
But frozen skin doesn't feel frozen. Once its already froze it starts to feel like it's on fire. And frost bite is extremely painful to defrost. I can see how they ended up undressed. But weren't these blokes Russian? They should have known the symptoms of frostbite.
It actually is quite common for people to burn themselves while trying to warm up, as they don't feel the *burn*, even if their frostbitten extremities are already feeling like they are burning.
I've personally witnessed several people give themselves second degree burns (and sometimes set their clothes on fire) trying to warm up with a fire.
@ToasterWeevil Not necessarily related to the disaster - dating such burn marks in trees in the winter can be remarkably difficult unless you're going to take careful samples for detailed scientific analysis... something the recovery parties were not doing nor prepared to do. They could have been as simple as lightning effects from storms before, during, or after the incident. Or they could have been related to warming fires the survuvors tried to use before dying. Or they could have been something other than burn marks altogether - many things can cause marks that *look* like surface burn marks on trees.
We have a pretty good idea that the Soviets didn't have death ray guns in the late 1950s. And a heat output that would have done that from a distance with anything less than a focused coherent beam (like say, a rocket exploding) would have flash melted, well, all the snow... including all the footprints, and caused a flash flood that would have stripped pretty.much everything off the slope that wasn't nailed down.
@@geodkyt It's so easy to get frostbite. Last winter I was working outside in - 25c. I forgot to cover my ears. I hadn't been out for very long but my ears started to burn. Living in the Canadian prairies, we were taught that it's a sign your skin is starting to freeze. I would have thought these lads and ladies would have known that but I guess if you're that far out there's not much you can do.
@@amandabeaty1492 frostbite is painful to thaw, and in my experience it was hard to gauge the temperature of the warm water I used. My feet didn't know if they were in ice water or scalding water.
Re the radioactivity mystery, back in the 70s when my parents took me camping in the UK, my mother used to stock up on gas mantles - I'm pretty sure that Russians in the 50s would have done ao too. Those mantles are a soft woven structure soaked in thorium salts. The salts glow a bright wgite when hot, and the woven structure vaporises, so the mantle becomes very friable once used- the thorium remains very radiioactive though, so anyone near a gas lamp that falls oved would have easily detectable traces of radioactive dust on thwm
I remember those.
I remember it being a lamp of some sort being suspected, I thought it was a tritium lamp though
Yeah, I read about this a while ago. An avalanche expert had recreated this entire thing with a simulation program, and the only thing not explained by the avalanche was the radiation. But he had then specifically looked into all their gear and found, that they were indeed using such lamps as described by 2LeftThumbs.
So in my book - case closed, fully explained. Tho ofc, I had to listen to Simon discover the story anyway 😉
@@dfuher968 man, now I want a follow up video with an avalance expert explaining every detail with fancy 3d simulations :D
@@toffeefuchs THat's actually how they ended up wrapping this one up. "Ask a Mortician"' has a video on this, someone investigating the case got in touch with Pixar and asked to use thei snow engine they used for the movie Frozen to recreate possible scenarios on an avanlance.
I've heard people say the burn marks were caused by the freezing people practically sticking their bodies into a makeshift fire in a desperate attempt to warm themselves.
Depressing that such a promising group of people were lost. So many smart, capable people with promise. They would probably have done a lot for the world.
This is just a documentation of randomly stumbling across another one of Simon's channels.
Yeah no kidding. 12 days late but it popped up on the main page of my RUclips videos to watch and went damnit simon another one
Eventually, Simon is going to be uploading more than 24 hours of videos per day every day, and no one is gonna question how.
There were a couple days that brain blaze streamed old episodes for 24 hours & Simon put out videos on other channels, so I think he's technically done it already
@Nero or maybe even more with just how much he gets out there
Simon is actually triplets
Simon. There’s this thing called sleep. It’s like caffeine, except it works. I’d hate to lose eight hours of your delightful voice, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make when the alternative is perishing of exhaustion.
(Also, subscribed. DAMN YOU.)
No need for sleep. I am a robot sent from the future.
@@decodingtheunknown2373 someone warn Arnie
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Wait! So the whole cryogenic freezing plan is a cover you’ve just blown? 🤭
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Ah, that explains a lot.
@@decodingtheunknown2373 I knew it!!
Having looked into this pretty thoroughly in the past, I have a few theories of what might have happened.
Cutting out of the tent from the inside in varying degrees of undress and with mismatched clothing, as well as the burns are likely caused by some sort of mishap with the stove. Camp stoves from the era could be fed wood from inside the tent to remain warm and featured an exhaust chimney with a double hinged top that was supposed to vent the fumes and keep things from entering the pipe.
It's likely that the storm could have obstructed or clogged this pipe, causing the tent to rapidly fill with smoke. The burns are consistent with attempts to smother the fire and in the official reports it's also mentioned that there is burning of the esophagus and lungs on some of them. They probably failed to put out the stove and hastily threw on whatever clothes they could in the confusion, then walked to the nearby tree line for the closest thing they could manage for shelter.
At this point, one of them climbed a tree to get a lay of the land and fell, causing injury and leaving the blood up in the tree. The internal injuries, bruising and broken bones several of them suffered could be cause by a number of things and there is some evidence to support that they may have fallen down a somewhat steep cliff face near where the first bodies were found.
The explanation for the radiation being that a couple of them worked with radiation is the most likely explanation, though a case could be made for the snow itself being irradiated by some sort of nuclear tests, also resulting in the lights in the night sky. There was a secret military base after all. I'm not particularly convinced of that and personally think the whole "lights in the sky" thing is probably a fabricated element perpetuated by UFO obsessed people to give the whole event an extra spook-factor.
Whatever the case, It's likely less spectacular than people think and more of an unfortunate culmination of events than a supernatural occurrence or government conspiracy.
The tent had no signs of a fire or smoke damage.
The severe winds blew a chunk of snow in front of the tent in the middle of the night. They panicked and cut their way out. They headed for the tree line for dry wood but realized too late there was none. Several hikers started back. The ones at the tree line climbed up for some dead branches and started a fire but the wind was too brutal and they froze. The ones going uphill got lost and froze. The remaining ones took the clothes from their dead comrades and went further downhill to dig a shelter. While digging they broke through and fell 10 feet and hit their heads on rocks. They died of concussion or hypothermia. The radiation came from lab contamination.
On radiation: gas camping lantern (think that green Coleman thing that's a tank, a glass cylinder, and a hat, if you're American) mantles -- a basket of specially-treated fine cloth mesh takes the gas flame and turns into a lightbulb filament, basically -- at the time the mesh was cotton doped with radioactive thorium nitride. I'd assume everybody had a spare set of replacement lantern mantles in their pocket, or thorium dust on their bodies from replacing said radioactive mesh when they wore out (once the cotton burns out, it's just a fragile shell of thorium oxide dust). Evacuating ahead of an avalanche, getting caught up in it and smashed against trees downslope explain the panic and the trauma injuries, hypothermia (getting numb frostbitten feet too close to the fire/undressing) are common symptoms of extreme hypothermia, and the missing soft bits by scavengers.
If anyone investigated this with more than just their thoughts they would have seen the photographs that were taken from the 30+ yo guy that was the one taking most of the photos, when the roll of film was developed.
The Dyatlov pass incident has been explained - there was an article published in the journal Nature earlier this year..
missing eyes and tongue - scavengers.
Radiation - Soviet era military personnel & vehicles handling and transporting the evidence.
The trauma - caused by an ice slab avalanche hitting the tent in the middle of the night. The campers had to cut their way out of the tent and flee the wind that had driven the ice slab. They headed in the direction of whatever shelter they could see with whatever clothing they managed to scavenge in their flight.
Realising that the less well dressed campers were in immediate danger some of the team tried to make their way back to the tents but in the severe weather conditions they were unable to make it.
Burns are the result of trying to stay too close to a fire while freezing to death...
Did you see how large the slab was supposed to be? As if from a roof top. They wouldn't run away rather to freeze to death because of that. Not in Russia. Besides, they couldn't have dug any slab. They didn't even prepare the fire properly because they were so tired. They actually woke a bear up, he roughed them up a bit and went to sleep again, because bears never feed in the winter. Case closed, difficulty level really easy.
@@kokeskokeskokes well I suggest you publish your findings in a peer-reviewed journal. You might hit some pesky questions like: "where is there any evidence of a bear attack?" You know - bite marks - claw marks - that sort of thing.
Also you have failed to understand the reconstruction of events. The people were not fleeing the slab. They were trying to find shelter from the wind before they succumbed to hypothermia.
But you know, apart from a complete lack of evidence and absolutely no scientific rigour - great story.
@@PhDTony_original Thank you, and you are welcome. I find the evidence in the way some group members were mauled. Duh. I am unaware of any further evidence, are you? My story therefore matches. Sorry I have no peers. Did you know that publishing in peer-reviewed papers is a paid thing? Who sane would do that, and why?
@@PhDTony_original If you are willing to push it through, I am willing to write it. But I guess I may have more pressing issues to publish if you sponsor it.
@@kokeskokeskokes you don't need a "sponsor" to publish - you just need evidence and scientific rigour.
Suggested topics for Paranormal Simon:
Portlock Alaska: The towns people fled en masse due to a number of unsolved murders and disappearances.
The Himalayans Skeleton Lake: A lake where 800 skeletons were discovered
Michigans UFO wave of 1966
Good ol' classic Skinwalker Ranch
Another rec: the Khamar Daban incident. Another USSR hiking disaster, very creepy, very weird, lots of conspiracies about it now.
Ask a mortician did a video on this that discussed how the frozen animation of snow allowed them to actually render a digital estimation of what happened. Most likely an avalanche.
Yes!! I was scrolling to see if anyone had mentioned this!
@Benjie128 - Yup, this one: ruclips.net/video/29TKoDwKRcA/видео.html
This was solved in 2018 by actual hikers in the exact same area. It was a katabatic wind that most likely hit the area. The same thing happen to a group of Swedish hikers in 1979. Only this time they were found the next day not a week later. One of them survived but was in such bad condition and so traumatised it took 4 months for them to be able to say what had happened to the group. The Disney theory doesn’t explain even a little bit of the whole situation but it got more coverage because it’s linked to Frozen. Also it really doesn’t help that hardly anyone does up to date research on things like this. They just copy the misinformation that others have stated in things that could be several years old at this point.
Yes I just mentioned this then started scrolling to see if anyone else mentioned this. I couldn’t remember where I watched I watched it. I think I have to go watch that video again!
Notice the tent poles still standing? No avalanche.
Remember that time Simon mentioned this incident on the Casual Criminalist, but said it was solved so it wouldn't fit on that channel? Yeah, me neither.
I'm pretty sure Simon has mentioned this on every channel he runs at least once haha
Well, it has been a huge WTF?, since it happened....in 1959. I think it was a military experiment that went wrong. Something to do with sound. The injuries and radiation I have no idea.✌😸
Fascinating, as always. This is a story I’ve heard over and over again, but what normally gets lost is the humanity and identity of the victims. The inclusion of the individual photos, especially when talking about the horrific injuries they suffered, really hit home. Reminded me of the true loss behind this mysterious unsolved case, especially after you shared the detail that the search party was just all of their desperate friends and relatives. That is the truly horrifying bit of this story, that is so often overlooked. Thank you.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
This damn story man. My younger brother became obsessed with this story and trying to find out what actually happened. He got involved with a group of people also obsessed with this case and finding out what happened. Everytime there was a new clue or theroy they heard about it would consume the majority of their time. It seriously became a problem for my brother. Like he lost his job (he was an orthopedic surgeon) then he and several members of the group he had joined trying to find out what happened in this case. Decided to actually go visit the location where this actually happened. As if they would somehow find something that everyone else that had already been there investigating this case wasn't able to. Spoiler alert they didn't find shit. But it was the last straw for my brothers wife and divorce followed soon after the trip. But despite the lose of his job, his wife, many of his friends and his social life. He refused to get back into the swing of his life. it was hard to see.
But my family and I we're actually pretty excited that he and several other people in the group he joined planned on taking another trip to the location where this incident happened. This is because when he returned from his previous trip he was so much happier and motivated to get back into the swing of life. So we expected a similar outcome this time. But that's not what happened. When he returned home this time his behavior got worse and he seemed really depressed. He never wanted to do anything or Interact with our family. Everything just got worse and worse until he couldn't do it anymore and he committed suicide just 3 weeks after he returned home. His death broke our family. And despite all the effort, time and energy, and all of the things my brother lost. He was no closer to finding an answer to what happened to these Russian hiker's.
I'm so sorry. That sounds horrible.
Heavy
Sending wishes to you for healing.
That is...jesus christ. Thats awful. He needed professional help, poor soul. If it wasnt this mystery it would have been another. He latched on to something to keep him going because he was in a super awful state of mind. Sorry for your loss man.
To think: all he had to do was find the original autopsy reports and find someone who KNEW RUSSIAN to read it. The force of nature, which the autopsy ACTUALLY list as death, was aka "avalanche".
Best explanation I have heard: They were camped on a slope, the snow slipped burying the tent, they tore their way out, and ran in case of more slips, grabbing whatever clothes weren't buried, the burns were from getting to close to the small fire in a desperate attempt to keep warm, and they stripped off and scrambled about the trees as the delirium of hypothermia hit, and the injuries were from the original slip, the radiation was probably fallout from the Khystym disaster, which had occurred in the region two years earlier, at the near by secret city of Chelyabinsk-40,.
That's absurd...
OR!!! Maybe the burns occurred because the tent slipped while they were cooking. They left in a hurry to escape the smoke!!! Did I figure it out?!?! Am I a genius?!?!?! D..=!
Sounds about right. Big ol slab of snow fell in the tent afterimage got warm and settled, softening the surrounding snow.
I saw a documentary on this. Due to warm weather before the last snowfall there was a sheet of ice between snows. When they dug into the slope they destabilized the ice sheet slipped and it fell on them and crushed them in the middle of the night as the current snow made it heavier. It's as solved as it could be now.
This is possible scenario. Oven was stored, not in use bause they want spend so called cold night, those hiking trips were to receive enough credit to gain better status in hiking. They were some level 2 and gaining enough credit its possible to go level 3, like in video game! But plausible, some minor errors, bad decisions and worst luck possible this happens. They try survive after evacuating from tent but not enough cloth or equipment and bad luck with survival shelter they die.
Simon is rapidly building an empire filled with increasingly more well-educated followers. And I am here for it
Considering the amount of them somehow think this was caused by an avalanche in an area where it's impossible for one to occur proves that both them and you aren't sure what you are talking about......
@@tyzilla358 I'm not sure what that has to do with me...
“…One theory to rule them all.” Yes Katy.. YES! Another writer slipping LOTR references between Simon’s ignorant lips.
I love how Jen is roasting Simon in half of her work and he's just fine with it. Jen is a legend.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
“Because I’m a big grown man and I can make my own decisions” - Simon whistler
“Aaahh, my office is dark and there’s monsters” - also Simon, 5 minutes after stating he’s a big grown man 😂
I’m here at the beginning, when Simon finally sold out. “I see other RUclipsrs that do some paranormal stuff, and then when the analytics tell them that’s the most popular, they morph into being more and more about the paranormal even if they don’t believe it. It’s sad.” - Paraphrasing Simon Whistler
Lol I totally remember that
You've gotta love Simon's "little Capitalist heart", as he calls it, going where the money is. 🤣
"Since we're making a part 2 it's because the first video did really well and I'm creatively bankrupt." You've got to love that level of transparency.
Hahahha you'll know I've truly sold out when in two years this channel is all like: "GUYS, GHOSTS ARE REAL, LETS TALK FOR HOURS ABOUT PEOPLES ANECDOTAL GHOST EXPERIENCES"
And that is the day that my capitalism went too far.
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Another channel with personality, looks like Danny, Sam, Callum, and Jen get more company in the basement
This is one of Simon's best bargains IMO. He's as content, and as engaging, as an Englishman can be in a pub!! 🍺😊
Englishmen are always most engaging in the pub ;)
@@decodingtheunknown2373 Indeed! I've spent many a convivial evening with my UK friends in pubs and then happily "kicked the shoe home"!! 😊👍
You think this is great.... have you watched Business....ermm.... Brain Blaze?? ♡
This. Just this statement is so true. It just feels that Simon is so relaxed and says things I can relate too. Just feels like a chat.
**Dont forget dogmen Simon.
@@AmberLie it will never be brain blaze! Business blaze lives!
For anyone interested, they actually do have a hypothesis about this incident that an independent investigation by a team of outside researchers recently seemed to support (and was subsequently published in an official scientific paper)
The youtuber Anton Petrov has a fascinating video unpacking the scientific paper that explains it all, and I have to say it was probably one of the most thorough and detailed studies I’ve ever seen! Without having any survivors or witnesses to interview, it seems that this discovery is the closest we will ever get to truly “knowing” what happened, but the evidence really does point to the theory this video discusses. (Not including any spoilers about the theory here in case anyone is interested and wants to watch the video for themselves)
Side note: I enjoy the channel Simon! My one *very scientific* hypothesis is that one day, youtube will consist of only Simon Whistler channels and videos. (insert *one of us, one of us* chant here)
edit: just finished watching this video, and one of the theories included happens to be the exact theory that gets revealed, albeit all of the seeming loopholes are covered! you definitely do your research😌
@Lorraine Thomson Hes a narrator... He didn't write the script
@Ryan Trott Thats what the style of this channel is. He reads a script and shows his views on it. He has a dozen other channels of different types of content.
@@BigBrainLynxAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I’d never heard that one of the hikers had taken part in nuclear cleanup and had worked at the plant. That’s the thing that kept me from believing it was an avalanche - it’s too weird for radiation to be a factor naturally. So it was nice to hear the work your script goblin went into, cause I’ve literally never heard that from any other channels covering the incident. And I’ve seen many.
One of the things that bugs me about how people talk about the dyatlov pass incident is how fixated everyone is about the radiation:
Most things around you are covered in at least a trace of radiation. You, your clothes, your accessories, any jewelry, all can set off a Geiger counter. Just at low levels of the safer forms of radiation.
I've never seen any accounting of this story go into the radiation bit. What levels were the radiation detected? What *kind* of radiation?
Not too mention you don't need to be working in a lab to be exposed to radiation, since it can be carried by wind. So it can get to you wherever however. Only water really stops it or cancels it out.
...where the clothes of every person iradiated or just the one working at Mayak, as a _nuclear engineer_ 's ?
several of them were physicists/engineers from a Soviet university DURING THE COLD WAR, one of them literally was known for working on the cleanup crew after a major nuclear incident. It's a complete non-mystery here.
@@willyolio9590 THANK YOU-my point exactly! And couple that with the fact that they were wearing each other's clothes, so even if people point out "but so and so had no reason to be near anything radioactive!" Is at least possible _maybe_ that they picked up a sweater from some one that did, or are we just going directly to "ALiEnS Did IT!!" ?
Secret nuclear weapons testing in the area is my favorite, it accounts for the lights in the sky and the panic.
@@jturtle5318 That is a good one, actually. Also their camping lamps apparently had a mantle made from Thorium, which emits a small amount of radiation...All in All, the radiation is a complete _non_ -mystery which has been blown way out of proportion, partly due to Soviet fear of international embarrassment, incompetence and people's need for sensationalism. Sorry for the rant.
Is Katy going to join Danny, Sam, and Callum in the basement now?
'another episode' hah! Good one, mate. I was afraid I'd have to add multiple videos to my extensive backlog of your content I've yet to watch. Grand to be here with you legends, dunking on the supernatural.
Hahha I have a whole bunch recorded and uploaded, and picked the one i thought would be most popular for the pilot episode ;D
Of all the " mysterious things " I've heard about, this one is still able to make me shake my head. I know that avalanche is the most popular explanation , but I've never heard a satisfactory explanation for how an avalanche that caught them up and killed (some of) them, left their footprints and tent intact.
Exactly, not to mention that their skis were still standing in the snow, plus there was no sign of an avalanche form the rescue party, plus avalanches aren’t prone in that area and haven’t happened since, etc. etc.
To keep the skis still standing next to the tent is huge, this cancels the high winds and avalanche theories. Both would have cause the skis to fall.
The USSR had partial conscription and if you were as young as 32 it is basically impossible for healthy guys like this to have not been in the military (WW2). The idea some were in the military means nothing. Non of them with a military background at this time would have been more confusing and show some shady stuff going on.
Ah yes, another Blaze Boy channel. Take my subscription.
Can’t wait for you to debunk aaaaall the supernatural things. I didn’t know I needed this but I’m so ready.
Simon, I feel like you are a friend who tells me ridiculous stories. I just love listening to you amuse yourself and expand on a script. This new show is a welcome addition to my absolute favorite, The Casual Criminalist. Looking forward to more creepy nonsense stories. Love it!
I agree with you 100%. I love story time with Simon and Friends. I need to go get my popcorn ready 🍿
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Points which no theory till date is able to explain :
1.) Igor Dyatloy was missing an incisor in his jaw
2.) Yuri doroshenko suffered serious burns on his skull and foot. The grey liquid coming out of his mouth
3.) Yuri krivonishenko also had severe burns on his foot
4.) Lyudmila and semyon both found without eyes. The eyes of both of them were taken out. A medic on the rescue team even went far to say that they were removed with surgical precession
5.) Lyudmila is missing tissues on her face. Her lips were taken out & missing tounge
6.) Semyon was missing eyebrow tissues
7.) The element of Radioactivity
8.) Why all went in the same direction in a line. Why some of them did not went slightly right or left
9.) Tent opening from inside
10.) Time of death for every individual. And why those who survived did not do anything for finding help and instead waited for a slow death.
11.) According to another hiking group they witnessed soviet military personnel there in second week of February but rescue team only found them on 26th february.
I saw the pictures of the corpses and the missing eyes isn't really surprising. You could barely even call those 2 bodies, they were more like skeletons. So the eyes were most likely just rotted away already like most of the flesh or eaten by aninals
@@TheDesius But still mystery
All the flesh that was missing was just decomposition or animal predation. As far as the waiting for slow death, hypothermia impairs brain function. You make bad decisions like staying still. This actually is also related to the burns on the feet. Extremities are the first to be affected by hypothermia (usually more exposed and also less vital so the body sacrifices them to keep the heat in the core where vital organs are). Hypothermia in its later stages causes numbness. If your feet are so frozen that you can't feel, you can get them too close to a fire trying to warm them up and end up burning them instead.
@@AppleStrawberryLove cute.
@@cheerful_crop_circleAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I doubt the radiation happened onsite. Several of them could have low levels of radiation from the Khystym disaster. For all we know that was typical of everyone who lived in their region, but the hikers just happened to be tested for radiation because of the investigation. The Soviet government probably wasn't testing ordinary people as a matter of course.
It's an avalanche. I'm guessing they were sleeping and woke up just in time to cut their way out of the tent and flee.
The rescue team stated that the tracks away from the tent did not indicate urgency or panic. I suspect it's hard to run when you're in the middle of an active avalanche. The autopsy reports also indicate the hikers suffered significant impact injuries which would have slowed them considerably. It's also possible that several of them were too injured to run or even walk and were being helped by their comrades.
When the avalanche subsided they were cold, disoriented, and injured. They might not have been physically capable of making it back to the tent to retrieve their clothing and gear; they also might not know where it was, or assumed it was all buried under snow or swept away. They decided to shelter in place and succumbed to their injuries and the cold within a day or two. The first hikers to die were stripped of their coats, socks etc by their fellow hikers. The hikers that had several layers were the last to perish.
Animals and decomposition explain the missing eyes, and general state of the bodies. Burns are from trying to get warm. Impact of avalanche is consistent with wounds comparable to being struck by a car. The radiation is likely due their day jobs; they were all scientists or engineers.
Soviet authorities didn't want to alarm the public, or admit that they had no idea what happened. So they quickly issued a vague report and closed the investigation.
Nice...
Just something to add, recent research has shown that the type of avalanche they suffered was very rare, and practically unheard of even in modern day. Even these experienced hikers would never have thought that an avalanche was even possible where they set up camp. For it to happen in the middle of the night, they would have been disoriented and confused, not to mention injured, and they would have been blindly considering every explanation other than avalanche as well, in the dark.
@@willyolio9590 I like this comment thread. Logically, and not invoking any 'woo-woo'... It's the way the world is (mostly)...
I'm surprised any of them survived the avalanche long enough to move around. I mean, these are some TERRIBLE injuries. How'd they even dig themselves out?
Where’s the snow ?
"Welcome back to another episode" literally the first episode.
Simon
While I’m all for the Soviet aliens murder theory it just strikes me as a series of unfortunate events that can all be relatively easily explained. Something (be it a large animal, avalanche etc) that we’ll never be able to confirm forced them to quickly leave camp. They then began to succumb to the elements one by one, the burns are just from the fire they found next to those two chaps. In late stage hypothermia it kills the nerves in your extremities as the soft tissue begins to die meaning they won’t have felt their flesh burning in their attempts to warm up. Falls, post mortem animal feeding and natural decomposition explain the rest. But people love a good mystery so fuck it, I’m throwing my lot in with those pesky aliens.
What gets me is that the left the tent quickly, but then they walked calmly or something. So weird.
My hangup is the same thing Simon has trouble with, the radioactive clothing
@@aceundead4750 I thought at the beginning it said that one of them was literally a student working in a lab dealing with radiation or whatever. No surprise at all to me that there would be trace amounts staying on their clothes.
@@QuantumBoogaloo i'll have to go back and relisten
@@QuantumBoogaloo didnt have to go back. He restated that one dude worked at one of the cleanup sites, and then also trekked around a radioactive area with another of the hikers, something no other source iv ever found had stated.
Avalanche? katabatic winds?
If that occurred, how were there skis and tent posts that weren’t even knocked over?
You can see in the picture that there are upright skis just stuck in the snow, by the tent.
Now there is no way that a force equal to a car crash that could smash somebody’s rib cage would not knock over a ski.
Let’s think people 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Yes. Anything with any significant force would have knocked the skis over and put out the campfire. Also, there is no explanation for the radiation, why some climbed trees, why some who survived opted not to return to the tents and why some burned/froze by the fire. Not because of anything that made them cut their way out of the tent and yet failed to knock it over.
My money's on the avalanche hypothesis. It makes the most sense, apart from the radiation, which can be explained by their studies and work in the Cold War Soviet energy and engineering sector. (and let's be honest lol Soviet Russia and Radioactivity kinda go hand in hand, don't they?!)
It explains their mismatched clothing, their not all succumbing to hypothermia and death all at the same times, their internal injuries, and the evidence of them cutting their way out of their tent seemingly in a massive hurry.
Their missing eyes and tongues can easily be explained by scavengers, most likely birds, some of which, like crows and ravens, not to mention Vultures, Hawks, Eagles and other predatory species like Owls, which are largely opportunistic animals anyway.
A bunch of crows pecking around a frozen carcass isn't exactly a rare occurrence, if you've ever seen roadkill. The rest of their bodies being too frozen solid for any significant scavenging to have been available.
Leaving their remains in the valley below, with various blunt force and post mortem type injuries, in fact, accounting pretty much precisely for how they were eventually discovered.
The ones surviving the longest suffering increasing amounts of disorientation until their eventual deaths due to exposure, not being able to find their way back to camp after being crushed, tumbled and thrown down the valley because of heavy snowfall that night.
Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced, the avalanche hypothesis definitely makes the most sense. ✌
No way! What a load
Lol Simon and the supernatural 😂 this should be ... AMAZING Haha. Also that's what 12 channels or something now? 🤔 dose anyone know if Simon qualifies as having the most active channel yet?
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I really love this kind of format, doing the paranormal related stuff. I recommend doing a video on the Hinterkeifek Murders and maybe the Annelise Michel case. They’d be amazing topics for this kind of channel
I have also suggested the Hinterkeifeck murders on the Casual Criminalist.
Anneliese Michel!!! Yes, that’s a good one! Gloria Ramirez too, and Mary Reeser
Unfortunately there's nothing paranormal about any of those. Hinterkaifek is definitely interesting though.
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Burned feet - they left without their snow boots, the ones with burned feet had made a fire. They tried to stop frostbite and that's how they burned their feet
Missing eyes and tongue - the autopsies did not say the tongue or eyes were lost during trauma. They are external soft tissue, they are not unlikely to be the first things to rot or to he taken by rodents as they present the least resistance, this is not uncommon. They were likely lost from decomposition. I mean one of their hands and feet was already decomposing away, why wouldn't the eyes and tongue be decomposed
Major injuries - yall ruled out the animal attack, and only mentioned wolverines - this is stupid. Bears can do that type of damage easily, "hit with the force of a car." Or with the force of a very hungry angry bear. Or an avalanche could have done all of that.
Radiation - three of them worked around radiation, two of them regularly. Also Simon says there were very high amounts of radiation - amounts were not all that high - definitely high enough that it wasn't an anomalous amount, but not very high as he said.
why wouldn’t the bear eat them, then? Also don’t bears hibernate in the winter?
All sorted, minus the bear. Why would a bear take on *9* people? (It wouldn't.) I just started, but the reason...
It was an avalanche. 👉Ask A Mortician! She did a fantastic job. As ever.
Simon, let's see what ya got! ;) ...JK! He's lovely.
I’ve been watching your videos (and recommending them to others) o Geographics for at least 6 months now. I was so happy to have RUclips recommendations pop up with you on this channel and another! I’ve just subbed to both as well. You are my favorite storyteller Simon!
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
The wind one makes a lot of sense, when hearing that wind coming it freaked them out as they presumed an avalanche was coming this is why they cut from the inside and jumped out, in the rush not taking clothes and burning themselves on the stove by accident. Then after it had subsided, it was only a bit of snowfall compared to an avalanche however the tent was submerged and due to this they couldn't find it leading to some looking for it, others making a make shift shelter, some falling into the ravine etc. All dying in smaller groups as they were trying to get a new shelter sorted out quickly but not dressed correctly.
I like it, esp. as a 'real' avalanche in this weather would have left 'a bit of extra snow' for the search team to see?
@@barbaralanders6049Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
(Russian here, living not too far from the area)
To clarify some of the points you mentioned:
1. RADIATION. So annoying. 2 of the hikers were senior students of a radio engineering faculty, which, back in the day, included lab work with some radioactive substances. Another hiker worked at a Scientific Research Institute and worked to contain damage after the Radioactive Kyshtym catastrophe, which was, again, in the same state as they lived and hiked. Radiation levels and types on only three items of clothing were identified and pronounced at a natural level not dangerous to humans. They probably tested for radiation because the few states in the region were known to have radioactive spots.
2. Leader of the group. One thing people outside of Soviet Union don't realize, is how boyscout-like the Pioneer and Communist movements here were. The hiking was an officially organized tour by a city's sport club, and it was a very common thing all over the country, which is why the search in such a remote and wild area was organized relatively quickly. The official name of the incident is 'Death of Dyatlov's touristic group'.
3. In the report in Russian, it actually says that the deaths were caused by a force of nature - the weather was terrible, and the area they were walking through is known for avalanches, hurricanes, etc. Also, a very remote area with limited resources - including good medics. It's not like autopsy was done in Moscow, where docs are used to weird things, you know.
4. Again, Russian reports say that there were no injuries while they were alive. The official cause of death is hypothermia.
5. They died approximately on the 1-2 of February, the first bodies were found on the 25-27 of February, the rest were found in MAY, in a well-made snow cavern, 2.5 meters under the snow. They were found with the clothes that were cut off from the bodies that were found earlier, and were obviously trying to keep warm.
6. The lights were proven to be from the rocket launch testing sight, but it was really far away.
7. The 'KGB guy' was actually was supposed to go with a different hiking group from the same sports club, but changed to Dyatlov's as it was shorter.
Aaand the rest is a mystery. We don't know why they suddenly left the camp without any supplies and went down the slope all together half-clothed. However, the tracks show that one person exited first, and then we have the rest - all 8 - walking slowly down the slope, some without shoes.
The area was hit by Katabatic winds. The violence and sound these localised extreme weather phenomena would have had would have been enough to make them leave their tent.
@@piperjaycieAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Simon is going to do Make Up Tutorials next
Or ASMR.
Wake up baby, new simon whistler channel just droped
The struck by lightning theory could definitely have caused some of the injuries. My Stepdad got struck by lighting and it cause him to seize hard enough to break his leg.
More likely than not it was a culmination of things, all of which we’ll never know, that caused their deaths. Some of them most likely did die of hypothermia and exposure. The eyes and tongues missing was most likely caused by animal savaging not an attack. As for the autopsy stating cause of death as “an overwhelming force” that’s not conspiracy, that’s them saying “🤷♀️ yeah sorry, idk what killed them”. Which honestly makes sense. If you have a body with lots of blunt force trauma but also signs of hypothermia the question for the person conducting the autopsy is only how did this person die and with all the injuries it was probably impossible to determine if it was the injuries or the cold that ultimately killed them.
Here is my theory. It was an avalanche, but they were also partying hard at the time. Most likely with drugs and group sex being involved. Then when the government found the scene, they covered up what they perceived as deviant and behaviour unbefitting of educated students of the soviet union.
The lights were most likely military flares or aircraft from the nearby base. Irrelevant. The radiation was from a previous exposure, as posited, and they only detected it as they were using dosimeters to locate the bodies using trace background radiation. Everything else fits into place, the rotting eyes and tongues, scavaging clothes of the dead, the injuries from the avalanche etc.
Ah yes welcome back to the first video, definitely never seen this fact boy before.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Well, I can at last shed light on this, I'm no longer legally bound by the galactic gagging order. My mothership dropped off my pod/egg that night, but the idiots fumbled it and I ended up in the dammed Urals, which are freakin' cold. Because of the low temperature, it took longer for me to develop so I didn't emerge for over 10 years. Have since relocated to a more temperate climate. But that explains the lights in the sky. Sorry about the confusion, just a bit of a coincidence. I'm now waiting for the mothership to pick me up so I can go home and escape this ball of rock. What was supposed to be an anthropological project turned into 50+ earth years in a lunatic asylum.
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Saw this suggested from casual criminalist. Immediatly hit the video, the subscribe button, and the like button.
I'm only halfway through, but...
Radioactive clothing could simply be from previous work, I assume?
The injuries may seem to be severe, but could easily be from a blunt object (trained humans are capable of punching that hard, a bat of some sort is pretty reasonable).
Oricifice flesh removal is typical of animals, especially those in a hurry.
This is an attack... One with no motivation, and one with likely more than one assailant possibly.. But it is definitely an attack, right?
Who from? No idea. Maybe a group member, maybe not. It has no motive, so I would assume possibly an insane group member...
Most likely one found dead far from the rest of the group.. One with few injuries.
I live in Canada. Now... Long story short... lucky for me the "it's so hot was kicking in literally as I was approaching the door of the cabin. Wild experience. Do not suggest. 1 star.
"A wild wolverine maybe, leaps out and attacks"
"Hey bub, this is my pass" *snickt*....carnage ensues.
Sounds legit to me.
A *radioactive* wild wolverine
I really like the relaxing music in the background. It makes watching the video less paranoia inducing.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Simon should advertise to schools, using RUclips statistics as validation for "retaining attention of students". Teachers could create playlists for the students, and have that be the equivalence of homework.
Some of Simon's episodes might need to be cut for content, as some may find his personal takes on subjects too lax. But personally I find it as part of the hook!
I didn't like the Beatles and I don't like him................
@@domtanko7160 like, dislike... it's all preference & opinion.
I'd prefer to be back in school, but it probably isn't possible for me to... so I've adapted and look for "learning" in different ways. Lol
Always find self not only watching new content-but also rewatching previously viewed content-on mysteries/potential mysteries like Norma Jean; Jack the Ripper; Roanoke; Dyatlov; etc. 2nd time round & after reading some comments, i felt compelled to add
Mysteries are mysteries for a reason. Cuz while there are some theories that seem more plausible/likely than others, even the best have holes or contradicting evidence. Avalanche seems rather popular today, yet under slightest scrutiny, it falls apart. So the avalanche was big enough to crack skulls & cause injuries on par with a car crash(yes avalanche could do that but for one that size, there would be clear evidence way of debris, they prob ain't all walking away single file after). Instead they would've been swept away, along with tent & supplies. And a torch that was lit wouldn't have been place on tent to help hikers relocate the tent. I'll buy a paranoid escape outta fear of 1, but not an avalanche itself. Would still leaves questions to some of the injuries. Katabatic winds also not a bad theory but again, doesn't explain it all. Military can't be ruled out & parachute mines experimenting intriguing as well or military tests like that. Don't think military just went there & killed em tho. Absolutely no evidence to suggest that at all. No other tracks aside from the hikers(not foot, ski nor vehicular). Could even be a perfect storm of a hodge podge small events taken from a few dif theories that have been proposed ova the yrs. But as for avalanche, tho it seems on its face like most likely, I think it's actually ONE of the least likely. Again, fear of 1 maybe, but even then, theres still the extreme internal(stress internal)left to explain. Maybe y'all think yeah some1 fell from tree, and other people fell into a huge ravine & that got covered by snow. Be a whole lotta falling going round that nite. Hence why it's such a mystery. Theres some evidence to support quite a few theories but plenty of evidence as well that makes someone unbiased question em at same time & conclude that it wouldn't explain entire scene. Let's all be serious tho, the infrasound explanation & local tribe theories prob even worse than avalanche absolutists theory. At least the avalanche absolutists have small bits of evidence that could be twisted to fit theory. Odds are much higher that a bear, Yeti, aliens or a Russian Freddy Krueger was at fault rather than infrasound. And bookmakers have Freddy Krueger at + $1,000,000,000,000. Smart money is on the perfect storm of panic, bad luck, mishaps, miscalculations, and just a confluence of dif things happening. But it's bordering on asinine to rule to ASSume that everything is easily explainable...let alone that this case is solved
The leader thing might be a product of Russian Society, which is very, very hierarchical and uncertainty avoidance (check out Hofstede's Six Dimensions of Culture for more information). That could be a reason why they had a leader.
Should do the Korovina Group. Theres a survivor that saw/explains what happened and yet its still a mystery
Curious if you can find anything else on it
Yes, I’ve listened to documentaries about this and Korovina, I find Korovina more interesting
that one has got to be some kind of poisoning right? either way, terrifying and tragic
@@amandam8609Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I definitely think this was a case of multiple things happening that brought about the weird conditions the bodies were found in.
I think there was a good chance there was some sort of avalanch, and they hurried out of the tent as quickly as possible, regardless of how much they were wearing at the time. I think in their haste to get out, they were split up, some heading towards the tree, others wound up near that cave/shelter thing. Any footprints they did leave in their escape from an avalanch would've probably been covered over.
I reckon once the snow had stopped falling down the mountain, they tried to get back to the tent/one another. Those by the tree probably tried to light a fire. The burns could be explained by that. They got too close to it. The state of undress too, is definitely a hypothermia side effect (though I hadn't heard that about them taking clothes off their dead friends to try and keep warm before, that's sad but also would make sense).
I once heard a retelling of this about the photographs of the orderly footprints but I think that's easily explainable. I reckon visibility would've been really bad after a sudden avalanch, and whoever had the camera was using the flash to light up the ground so they could potentially see either previous footprints so they could follow, or else to simply show a path for their friends to go along. Also the flash would've helped to try to signal to the others that might've gotten split up from them.
It's truly a sad mystery, and with how the USSR was, even the most innocuous thing was hushed up and made to seem creepier than it really was, so unfortunately we will never know. I personally just think it was a tragic accident.
So the channel Ask a Mortician did a video about this a few months ago, and some computer modelling as shown most likely it was an avalanche. I definitely recommend it, it really demystifies the whole thing
@@katerrinah5442 Except it wasn't an avalanche. The avalanche theory suggests that the horrific injuries four of the group members sustained was because of an avalanche hitting the tent. Injuries like crushed skulls, ribs and lungs, severe internal bleeding with probable death within 20 minutes, according to the official autopsy reports. The avalanche theory ignores the evidence that 1. No one had been dragged down the mountain and no blood trails (with these injuries you won't get up, you cough blood and slowly bleed to death), 2. The four had had time to collect clothes from their two dead comrades who had died of hypothermia next to the fire at the treeline, and had also managed to dig a snow shelter further down, 3. The four were found furthest from the tent, in a ravine next to said snow shelter, and that falling into that ravine in the pitch black explains all their injuries by itself. Yes, even the missing tongue and eyeballs. If you fall from a height and hit a rock head-first, it is likely that you bite off your tongue and your eyes will pop out.
They lined the coffins with zinc protection from radiation.
Anyone else laugh about the cheeky noise and tent wiggling at “pitch their tent”.
Please tell me I’m not the only one…
😅😆
Excellent and interesting as always Sir 👏👏👏👏👏
Must admit this particular mystery is one of my favorites.
Due to the film of the same name (post below)
This case and the Elisa Lam case are my biggest peeves. Covering these can be a quick way to lose all my respect for an 'unsolved mystery' or 'facts' channel. You guys always do a great job, though. I mean, Simon figured out the radiation on his own. This is why I love you guys.
Yeah I mean it's not like Elisa Lam wasn't being treated for Bipolar Disorder... and was displaying clear signs of a psychotic episode.
"I've never heard a plausible explanation for the radiation." Goes on to point out that two of them were studying radioactivity at school and one of them had cleaned up a large radioactive site lol also he kept saying high levels of radiation but it was not that high. Detectable, well over an anomalous amount over background, but definitely not very high as simon kept saying
Burned feet - they left without their snow boots, the ones with burned feet had made a fire. They tried to stop frostbite and that's how they burned their feet
Missing eyes and tongue - the autopsies did not say the tongue or eyes were lost during trauma. They are external soft tissue, they are not unlikely to be the first things to rot or to he taken by rodents as they present the least resistance, this is not uncommon. They were likely lost from decomposition. I mean one of their hands and feet was already decomposing away, why wouldn't the eyes and tongue be decomposed
Major injuries - yall ruled out the animal attack, and only mentioned wolverines - this is stupid. Bears can do that type of damage easily, "hit with the force of a car." Or with the force of a very hungry angry bear. Or an avalanche could have done all of that.
Radiation - three of them worked around radiation, two of them regularly. Also Simon says there were very high amounts of radiation - amounts were not all that high - definitely high enough that it wasn't an anomalous amount, but not very high as he said.
@@nickdaveNDM the animal attack does not make much sense as their bodies would’ve all had more signs such as claw marks or more tissue missing than just eyes and tongues.
It makes for more sense that the group woke up in the middle of the night hearing an odd noise. Thinking it might be a sign of an impending avalanche they quickly, but calmly left their tent (after quickly piling some snow on top to keep it rooted in place) in an attempt to evacuate. However the noise they heard was oncoming high winds. The group was stuck by these winds and was thrown/dragged while the wind whipped around. Scattering the hikers and tossing them around. Once the winds subsidize the dazed and seriously injured members of the group tried to survive the best they could. Unfortunately in their weakened condition none of them had the strength to last long, and died shortly after the incident.
@@nickdaveNDMAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
@@horrorfan117Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
This is my all time favourite mystery. I don't think the causes of death are particularly strange, they were all out in like -30 degrees weather in basically pyjamas and socks, no one would last very long like that. And the last 3 to be found, next to the stream, who had the severe crush injuries, probably dug a snow shelter which then collapsed onto them.
What is confusing is what drove these experienced hikers out of their tent and into basically certain death.
I just can't understand the avalanche theory. Surely if there was a powerful enough avalanche to scare them so much they cut their way out rather than open the door and don't even grab snow boots then the tent would have been damaged or collapsed, items inside would be pushed around and disarranged, and the tent would be a least partially covered in snow. Especially if there was a slab avalanche as the prevailing current theory suggests.
Also it seems highly unlikely that the hikers would exit the tent and then walk 1 - 2 km (1.5ish miles) away from their tent and ALL their equipment unless there was serious immediate danger, you'd think they would try to stay as close as possible so as to be able to retrieve their gear asap. These were very experienced hikers, they would know their time was extremely limited without proper clothing. But if there was that much danger from avalanche surely there would be some sort of evidence, such as the tent?
If anyone can explain how this avalanche theory accounts for this that would be great. Because I'm tired of seeing videos claiming the mystery has been solved. (Obviously not this one, this one was great.)
Wonder if it might of been drugs. Groups of people on the same drugs can sometimes come up with paranoid fears that feed into eachother until the whole group is hysteric.
They were killed by rouge elements of the Soviet military, the group were thought to by western spy’s, the deep chest depression was the result of a military vehicle with tracks slow crushing him. Most if not all were tortured before death.
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
@@Chris-jw8vmAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
I love how many different versions of Simon there are.
Serious educational Simon from TIFO
Funny Mental Simon from BB
Funny Normal Simon from CC & DTU
Don’t forget
Biographics
Geographics
Highlighting history
Megaprojects
Side projects
Xplrd
Toptenz
😂😂😂 I’m sure there’s more I’ve forgot
@@ste03Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Isn't there also those low-frequency noise winds within that pass? I've heard the noises created by these winds can be out of our spectrum of hearing, but can still stimulate the brains biopsychology, causing feelings of extreme fear, panic, and even psychosis
-14°f isn't cold to people who live in that area (or in alaska). We had a fire drill in gym class once and had to go outside in shorts and t-shirts in -20°f and we were just fine as long as we were in the sun. Weird, i know, but you just get used to the cold.
2:20 - Chapter 1 - The Mystery
5:40 - Chapter 2 - The history
26:10 - Chapter 3 - The Mansi
28:55 - Chapter 4 - Animal attack
30:00 - Chapter 5 - Mania
33:00 - Chapter 6 - Katabatic winds
34:35 - Chapter 6.1 - KGB
38:25 - Chapter 6.2 - Lights in the sky
44:00 - Chapter 7 - Avalanche
45:50 - Chapter 8 - Loose ends
Answer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Just saw that Simon had another page and clicked subscribe. ❤
Yet another channel dedicated to Simon's mad meandering mind. I absolutely love it!
I'm pretty sure the radiation is from the lanterns they were using. The mantles were coated in Thorium. Yes. That's right. Thorium.
But like why was there radiation?????
(Also blood was found in her lungs so she was alive when her taonge was ripped out.)
Simon is clearly pretty honest about never knowing as to what order his videos/podcasts are going to be uploaded in lol He couldn't even know this was going to be the first.
36:40 I like how Simon always dismisses some of the more unlikely theories but then comes around the moment anything hints at the possibility.
I've been familiar with the biggest or bigger parts of this story for a while but that there were so many months that passed before they were found, is something I had to be reminded of with this video
What I think most likely happened:
Cause - winds, avalanche or fear of incoming avalanche (due to noise, winds) made them run. They cut the tent as it used buttons back then, not easy to quickly get out, especially in cold conditions, your fingers are much less responsive.
In their panic/sleepiness they thought they couldn't save anything and rather than wasting time to try, possibly being caught in the avalanche or dying of exposure, they went towards the forest below to get shelter and start a fire. They might have underestimated how close to it they were (or had no choice).
What happened to the first 2 dead - They reached the cedar tree. They climbed up to find dry branches for the fire, getting bruises, scrapes, maybe even a light fall. They made a fire but realised it was not nearly enough given the cold and light clothes. At this point the group might have split up either due to differing opinions on what to do or delegating tasks. 3 decided to go back to the tent to get supplies, 4 went to build a shelter (sort of cut-out) to protect from the wind. It's clear the 2 dead near the fire died first. It's possible they were what caused the group to move, or maybe they were left there as they had no strength to go help / didn't want to leave the fire. Their burns are... from the fire. Desperate to get warm, they got too close, and/or got burned falling closeby after dying. The others then took their clothes in an attempt to increase their odds (so those 2 most likely died first).
The 3 on the way back to the tent -- tried to get back for supplies, perhaps they were the strongest so thought they could make it, or just decided it's better odds than the shelter. Can't imagine what it would have been like potentially seeing your friend just collapsing and knowing you're at the end of your strength too.
Last 4 in the shelter -- managed to find/create the shelter, but snow either fell on them from above (causing the injuries) or they fell a few metres into a ravine (possibly then also being crushed by snow). Their missing soft tissue/tongue/eyes are explained by scavengers and a close-by stream.
The radiation is explained by their professions (either working at a nuclear plant, helping with fallout after a disaster)
Other small injuries can be explained by debris from winds, small falls or slips, even a fight over disagreement on what to do or after blaming someone of the group that got scared and was the one that started the panic that got them all to abandon the tent. The man with the bitten knuckle probably did it in a desperate attempt to try and stay awake, knowing sleep means death.
Tragic, but no need for anything supernatural. Perhaps we'll never know the exact details as to which event caused the panic, what they were thinking, why they split up, but that doesn't change the sad end-result. They struggled to survive, but either a series of mistakes/terrible luck caused their demise.
Greeeat comment,you do not need to assume this happened,this did happen Everything points towards your sensible conclusions(avalanche ).
I cannot believe people have dragged this one out for over60 years.P.D.W.
An avalanche smooshed the tent, and the nine fumbled around in the freezing dark, getting separated, and perished due to hypothermia. Everything else is hyperbole. No one lived longer than daybreak. Sad. End of mystery.
1:40 The answer to this 'mystery' is plain - Several sets of those ears would be a problem in a light breeze. Up in the winds of the Dyatlov pass it's no wonder they all got based about a bit. Oh, and taking Inspector Clouseau along with you as just asking for trouble.
What? Too soon..?
I've had hypothermia, sort of. I went on a bike ride and forgot my gloves. The wind chill cooled my hands so much that they felt like I had submerged them into boiling water. One of the Top 5 most painful moments in my entire life.
I once almost lost my dick jogging in shorts. I didn't feel him at all, and it wasn't a fun situation. Fingers must be even worse, fearing that no more guitar ever again.
What are the other four?
@@cotati76 I got an adrenalin shot in my thigh at the hospital once. (Had treatment, did something dumb.) It felt like having a stove plate pressed against your leg for about 6 hours.
I had a poo once and I guess my bowls twisted or something because I got a growing and intensifying pulsating pain that spread out all over my lower back and left me hyperventilating on the floor for about 20 minutes before it subsided. My hands also started to cramp together like a pair of crumpled paper balls.
Had a VERY bad case of the flue another time. Just came flushing out both ends plus my nose. After the fluids ran out, the cramps started. Vomiting caused abdominal cramps that forced me to fold in half while my backs pain receptors flared up like it was being whipped with fire.
The worst migraine I have ever had. Three full days of such brain pain that it affected my vision and completely destroyed any perception of linear time. Colours kinda blended together and separated all at the same time, like an over- and multi-exposed photograph. One minute it was daytime, the next it was in the middle of the night, late afternoon, night, early morning, late afternoon, midnight, late evening, early evening, It seemed like months passed.
@@Adjuni holy shit sorry to hear all that. I hope you’re doing better now.
@@AdjuniAnswer: The KGB was testing the effects of energy weapons on people who had brain implants. They wanted to study the damage and effects of the weapons via the implant. 100% CIA CONFIRMED
Personally, I lean a little toward the theory that the campers were accidentally killed by a weapons test, and the event was subsequently covered up to avoid bad publicity. This would explain the incredibly vague report after the discovery, the unexplained injuries, and the camper's determination to leave the tent as quickly as possible.
It was obviously done by a Yeti. Case closed.
My guess when this comes up is either avalanche or that the stove was not properly sealed and they suffered from carbon dioxide/monoxide (forget which one it is when people die from running a BBQ inside) poisoning. In a stupor one of them noticed but was too groggy to open the zipper so they cut it open. They pulled on what they could in the cold: From then on it was all a slow groggy march to where they died.
Caitlin Doughty did an amazing job of covering this mystery. Yall should check her out after you watch Simon of course.
The Frozen CGI software is used to predict avalanches in ski country in Colorado.
35:02 that's complete bs. He didn't have a shadowy past and unexplained tattoos, he had a very well-established past as a combat engineer during World War 2 and the tattoos were either part of his service or common benign tattoos. Among them he had the 5 pointed star of the Red Army, the name Guena, his birthday, and a Г+С+П=Д tattoo that wass common among Red Army veterans which had served together for extended periods of time.
Oh look, I stepped away from Whistler World for a few months, and Blaze Boy has a new channel. Wish I could say I’m shocked.
Where's the credit to Frozen's snow and ice physics engine being harnessed and backing up the Slab Avalanche theory + the ensuing blunt force bodily injuries? Also surprised there was no mention of thorium being used in lanterns or other gear at the time. Still enjoyed the video, there is indeed too much about this incident to incude everything. Glad paradoxical undressing and accidentally burning themselves as they tried desperately to kee warm with the fire were both included.
I also stilll have horror and sadness fr the hikers, what a frightening and sad way to go. Aradpxicall undressing
I prefer camping in the winter just so I don't have to worry about ticks, and/or mosquitos. A good sleeping bag, a well stoked fire, and a fine bottle of bourbon can make a cold night in the forest as cozy as any you'd spend at home.
I'm reading a book called Dark Harvest by Will Jordan and it refrincees this incident.