This further convinces me that for my builds I need to include accessible raceways, conduits, and access panels so plumbers can fix the plumbing in the future. When I was in the UK last week I noticed most houses in rural areas had external DWV AND the houses I stayed in had accessible supply lines. It just seems better to plan on re-piping every 20-30 years.
Yes, you are right on the money. We need to focus more efforts solutions for issues like this instead of building oversized homes. We are digging a big hole for ourselves.
You are not to use crimp on Uponor. Plus that Tee is not Uponor. PEX-a or PEX-b are not to be used for closed system heating lines. Need a different type PEX for that.
Hi Jack. Question is a radiant heat floor system a "closed system heating line" system. Just so you know all Pex pipes are code approved for crimp fittings and rings but that does not make it a good idea.
Hi Joe, great video, it seems the failure is on the potable water lines, how are the pipes on heating pipe. especially the oxygenated type of pipe. your last video on the Zurn pipe seemed to have the same problem. should we just go back to old school copper pipe for heating and potable water lines.
Hi Edward. I have never seen a Zurn Pipe failure on a hot water recirculation system ever!!! The video above is from a house that had 5 Uponor Failures and the images are from the repair work done by a different company. I am not going to name them. What would be the point everyone is doing the same mistake. Also you should take the time to watch my Copper type L Toxic video. You might find it interesting.
So, help me out here. Going forward, whose pipe and fastening system should I use? I am a do it yourselfer with some rental properties. Also want to redo my own house that had Galvanized, and I converted it to pex from Lowes Also did a house in Uponor 7 years ago with the expansion fasteners of course. OK so far. What pipe? what fittings, which tool? Still have the old manual Uponor and was going to buy a new Milwaukee expander. Thanks, Byron White Nashville, TN
If that is truly Uponor, why in the world does he have crimp clamps on it. Also when he shows the "T" upclose at the end of the video, you can tell that the fitting he used is nit an Uponor type of fitting. The expansion ring is to sit fully on the fitting & actually see the end of the fitting sticking out past the "ring".
@@David-fk6yg Hi Dave. Let me help you understand what happened here. The images you see are from a pluming company who fixed the Uponor Pex failures. This work is amateur and these techniques should only be used for a 24hrs temporary repair!!! That is why everyone of there repairs failed and had to be redone. The point of the video is Amateur work gets amateur result!!! (Nothing is better that have to repair the repairs)
@@IntegrityRepipeInc copy that. It seems to me though that you're talking only about Uponor being bad & not much about the idiotic repair job. HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND Brother. Stay salty 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Lot of people out there assuming that PEX-a fittings can be done like PEX-b fittings. These people come along later and repair the mistakes. a & b PEX have different chemistry’s.
The problem seems to be with the red and blue uponor pipes only, not the white ones, which explains why Home Depot only carries the white ones. Can you confirm?
This further convinces me that for my builds I need to include accessible raceways, conduits, and access panels so plumbers can fix the plumbing in the future. When I was in the UK last week I noticed most houses in rural areas had external DWV AND the houses I stayed in had accessible supply lines. It just seems better to plan on re-piping every 20-30 years.
Yes, you are right on the money. We need to focus more efforts solutions for issues like this instead of building oversized homes. We are digging a big hole for ourselves.
You are not to use crimp on Uponor. Plus that Tee is not Uponor. PEX-a or PEX-b are not to be used for closed system heating lines. Need a different type PEX for that.
Hi Jack. Question is a radiant heat floor system a "closed system heating line" system. Just so you know all Pex pipes are code approved for crimp fittings and rings but that does not make it a good idea.
@@IntegrityRepipeInc Plus the crimp violates Uponor’s warranty.
Are the cracks at the fittings due to having a micro fracture already present before the expansion is done?
Hi Joe, great video, it seems the failure is on the potable water lines, how are the pipes on heating pipe. especially the oxygenated type of pipe. your last video on the Zurn pipe seemed to have the same problem. should we just go back to old school copper pipe for heating and potable water lines.
Hi Edward. I have never seen a Zurn Pipe failure on a hot water recirculation system ever!!! The video above is from a house that had 5 Uponor Failures and the images are from the repair work done by a different company. I am not going to name them. What would be the point everyone is doing the same mistake. Also you should take the time to watch my Copper type L Toxic video. You might find it interesting.
Is all pex b by Apollo fine long term?
So, help me out here. Going forward, whose pipe and fastening system should I use? I am a do it yourselfer with some rental properties. Also want to redo my own house that had Galvanized, and I converted it to pex from Lowes Also did a house in Uponor 7 years ago with the expansion fasteners of course. OK so far.
What pipe? what fittings, which tool? Still have the old manual Uponor and was going to buy a new Milwaukee expander.
Thanks, Byron White Nashville, TN
I install ZURN PEX B. I will a video for you.
@@IntegrityRepipeInc Thanks
@@byronewhite I wish it was easier to acquire Zurn pipe as a home owner.
Thanks for the info. Why is no one else letting people know about Uponor
If that is truly Uponor, why in the world does he have crimp clamps on it.
Also when he shows the "T" upclose at the end of the video, you can tell that the fitting he used is nit an Uponor type of fitting. The expansion ring is to sit fully on the fitting & actually see the end of the fitting sticking out past the "ring".
@@David-fk6yg Hi Dave. Let me help you understand what happened here. The images you see are from a pluming company who fixed the Uponor Pex failures. This work is amateur and these techniques should only be used for a 24hrs temporary repair!!! That is why everyone of there repairs failed and had to be redone. The point of the video is Amateur work gets amateur result!!! (Nothing is better that have to repair the repairs)
@@IntegrityRepipeInc
copy that. It seems to me though that you're talking only about Uponor being bad & not much about the idiotic repair job.
HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND Brother. Stay salty 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
Lot of people out there assuming that PEX-a fittings can be done like PEX-b fittings. These people come along later and repair the mistakes. a & b PEX have different chemistry’s.
Those expansion rings are very discolored. I suspect sme chemical agent is attacking the pipes
The problem seems to be with the red and blue uponor pipes only, not the white ones, which explains why Home Depot only carries the white ones.
Can you confirm?
Not True in any way shape or form. The Uponor white pipe fails just like the red and the blue.
Home Depot does not sell Uponor, in any color.
Not good in hot water circulating
Uponor falls apart on hot water recirculation systems use Zurn Pex B instead.